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Hi, I'm Nancy Dufresne. Welcome to our podcast channel. We know you'll be blessed by today's message. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Through the storm, through the night. You're never by yourself. It's all together with him. It's all together. He's not the author of everything, but he's together with you in everything. And that changes the outcome of everything. Amen. Hallelujah. Just lift up your hands and let's worship. Father, we thank you. We worship you. We worship you. We worship you. Just lift up your voice and let's just sing in the Holy Ghost on your mics, if you would. Just sing in the Holy Ghost.
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Ram, ram.
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Saba, come here, if you would. Ms. Reba. Just come up here by me. Come up here by me. Hallelujah. We'll just go with what the little bits we got. What you got?
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You know, I was the green one on. Yeah, I was. There you go. I was thinking about the miracle of this place that is both library and laboratory, that the riches of the ancient wisdom dwells among us sometimes. I love. Love libraries, especially like an English library. I love it. Oh, my goodness. I could just pull up a bed.
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Sleep in it, right?
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Sleep there, eat there, have my tea and whatever you have. Cornbread, something. But I was thinking about how that we have the wealth, you know, with the legacy of dad Hagin. He walks these halls. I don't mean that in a weird way, but the spirit of the man is alive in this place. The message alive.
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It's here.
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He visits often, I promise. But I was thinking about the laboratory part of this house, how that God is doing a new thing. And I know we. We say phrases like that without really realizing.
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It's a new thing, Apostle. It's a new thing that God's doing in you. You are his laboratory right now. I. I love watching you evolve and grow and mature the two of you, but it's such a new thing. It's like you're living in the laboratory. I saw the Lord over the. And what are those beakers? Is that what you call them? That you're. You're switching from one thing to another? And the Lord was having the best time over the two of you because there was this switch going on between the two of you, but he. It was like the Lord was a chemist over. And I don't even know what all that means, but maybe you do. But I'm just so thrilled to be a part of something that's not Stuck in the laboratory or the library. So good that we can embrace both. That we, you know, even in our music. I was thinking today I want to talk to you about something. An idea I have about. About distribution for the record. What I love. We have psalms, hymns and spiritual songs here. So many places you go. It's the newfound gadget. It's the fog machines, the lights, and that's fine, Shundo, do that if that's what God told you to do. But what I love here, we'll pull out. I love it that David and Mr. Tony will pull out an old hym ancient hymn. They'll reach back into the library, but they're not afraid to say, cindy, get up here and sing a song that we've never heard before and let it be the laboratory for a minute. That's all I got.
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Well, that's not quite all you got, because what I got for you is. There's some. It may be. You start with the fields. I saw you singing over people with tongues and then interpreting it. So just draw. Go whoever draws. You start with the fields.
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Start with step up.
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Step up. Beyond your own ability into the ability of the holy one little nightingale, you will sing. You will sing the prophetic word. You will sing like someone from another dimension. And it's going to be fun. It's going to be fun. It's going to start in your kitchen. You're going to be in that kitchen slinging pots and pans and singing. You go, where did that come from? Where did that song of the Lord come from? Where did that prophetic vocal come from? In Jesus name, I release you into the fullness, Pastor. I release you into the fullness, pastor. I've released you to the fullness, little songbird. Right division. Right division. Seeing division. And sir, I. I hesitate to even lay my hands on you because I know. I know when I'm in the presence of greatness. I thank you for the. The cities. I thank you for the countries that you are giving this man. I thank you for the apostolic voice he is to the church. I thank you that pastors open up and are welcomin of those that haven't understood you, that have resented you. I declare that thing is broken in the name of Jesus. And you will be accepted not only in the beloved, you'll be accepted in the body of Christ as the voice to the nations that you are that you will establish. Get ready for the ride of your life, sir. Get ready for the ride of your life. The ride of your life. In Jesus name In Jesus name. And there needs to be a sound that comes from your church. There needs to be a sound that comes from. And it starts in you. It starts in you. It starts in you. It starts in you. It starts in you. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Well, this is the first. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. You too. Thank you, Jesus. I speak divine life. Divine life. In the name finish, Lord, what you've started. Turn fast the wheels of time. Let there be a total manifestation of the healing virtue of Christ. In the name of Jesus. In the name of Jesus. And let there be such joy. Let there be such joy. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Jesus. Father, I thank you that the miracle is in the house. The miracle is in the house. We don't have to go anywhere else. We don't have to look anywhere else. But the miracle is in the house. It's in the house. It's in the house. It's in the house. Oh, thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Jesus. Whatever all that means. Don't you love how the Lord works? Love how Morgan, you guys, then I'll be done. You've been caught up in a tornado, but it's a. It's a Holy Ghost tornado. But sometimes you're like, where is my footing? Where do I fit? And right now, in the name of Jesus, God is going to establish you. I hear like a thud. Something that is being settled in the spirit. Where there have been questions, there's a settling right now. In the name of Jesus. In the name of Jesus. Hallelujah. Thank you for this mighty man of God. Thank you for his weirdness. Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Lord Jesus, that you made him fearfully and wonderfully. And every part of him is unique because you made him this way. And we thank you, Father, that you use that humor, you use that quirkiness. And we say celebrated. I thank you that he will be even more celebrated in the days to come. Thank you, Jesus. I'm done.
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I still think you're supposed to sing something in the Spirit in tongues and then. Yeah, then sing it out in English.
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Hallelujah. I am forgiven in Christ and I'm healed in Christ. My salvation is in the Christ. In him I live and move in him I live and breathe. I have my being. I'm hidden with Christ in God. I am hidden with Christ in God. It's no longer I that lives. It's no longer I that moves. But the king, the resurrected one, is dwelling in me. It's no longer I, the name no longer I that, please. But Jesus dwells in me. Thank you, jesus. Thank you, jesus. There's a place that we're being called to. I hear the Lord say, come up higher. Come up higher. I can remember my grandfather when we go hiking, and I. I was little and I get tired, and he'd say, oh, baby, just a little bit more. Just come up a little higher. And I hear the Lord so sweetly, so gently saying, it's time to come up higher. Pastor Debbie. It's time to come on up. In Jesus name. In Jesus name. In Jesus name. You have not seen nothing yet. And I see. I see young people, young ministers around your table. And as I see you, you are mentoring them. You are like a Deborah that they have called and said, we must come and glean. We must come and get your wisdom, your knowledge. And Father, I thank you for this faithful handmaiden of the Lord. She truly is a Deborah. She truly is a Deborah. And I thank you, Father, that she's finding her palm tree. And out of that palm tree will flow supernatural oil for the healing of nations. In the name of Jesus. In the name of Jesus. And even that last little bit of shrapnel in her heart today. I thank you in your kindness. You remove that Lord Jesus, and there is a healing deep calling to deep in the name of Jesus. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. I love you.
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I love you.
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I love you, Mama.
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Walk and sing and just touch as your lead. Say as your lad.
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Mighty, mighty Esther. Mighty, mighty Joseph, The plan, the plan for the city, the salvation of your city in the name of Jesus. Favor and politics. Politics favor in the political arena. In Jesus name. In Jesus name. In Jesus name. Oh, Father is so pleased with you. You make him giggle. You make him smile. I see him in a room with a big chair and the two of you are sitting there and he whispers secrets to you in the night. And you'll be faithful to write what he says. It's time to write what he says. The secret things of the Lord. It's time to write. Sarah. There's a writer in YouTube. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Jesus. And the hand of the Lord is on those five children. They're like a fist in the hand of God. They'll pull down strongholds, they'll break down barriers in the name of Jesus. Barriers of segregation are broken in the name of Jesus by those five children, five being the number of grace. There's a grace upon them right now. And I thank you for them. I thank you for Sarah. Sarah, I thank you for a husband oh, it's a good thing. It's a good day. It's a good thing. It's a good day. And the Lord said, don't be so serious. Don't be so serious. I want you to enjoy your salvation, to have fun, to laugh, to be like a child again. Don't be so serious. It's going to be okay. It's going to be fine. I see the Lord in you in a field, and you're playing ball, you're playing catch. The Lord said, I'm healing some things in childhood where that you can be like a child again and laugh again and play again. Enjoy the ride. You know how kids will hold up their hands on a roller coaster? God says, I'm going to have you holding up your hands because you're going to enjoy the ride. Enjoy the ride. Enjoy the ride. Enjoy the ride. Enjoy the ride. Enjoy the ride. Hallelujah. It's your turn, baby. It's your turn. It's your turn. It's your turn. It's your turn. Everybody else has had a turn, but now it's your turn. Oh, mighty man of God. Almighty man of God. I see the nations coming to you. I see the nations coming to you. And that's no news bulletin, but they're coming in a bigger way, in a more powerful way. The influence is increasing right now. In Jesus name. In Jesus name. In Jesus name. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Father, thank you for Mama and Papa. Thank you that they're such a part of the library in this place. But, God, there's still some laboratory in them, some new things you're doing in them. Add years to their life, Lord, and add life to their years. In Jesus name. In Jesus name. In Jesus name. In Jesus name. Thank you that they work in tandem. They're truly one. Thank you, Jesus and Joel. There are so many songs in you that have not yet been released. Prophetic songs. Not just spontaneous songs, but crafted, crafted songs. The body of Christ. Christ is waiting. The angels are waiting. The melodies are waiting. The lyrics are waiting. And Father, we call them forth in the name of Jesus. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. And Pastor, there's nothing that I could say that you haven't already heard, heard. But I am saying a big amen. And I'm saying publicly that you're my mama and I love you so much. And I'm so appreciative the Lord, when I was so broken and battered and walked through those doors. I don't know what you saw, but I'm so Grateful. And I'm here. And I know that's a scary thing because a lot of times when people say, I'm here, 30 days later, they're gone. But. But I'm here. And I love you so much.
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And. And your little gal, come up here, whatever God gives you. Ms. Reba, for them.
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Hallelu. I thank you, Father. You raise up a sign and a wonder. First of all, I thank you for healing deep places in this beautiful little girl. You heal the deep wounds, the deep wounds of childhood. I thank you, Father, right now. In the name of Jesus. In the name of Jesus. And she'll be so healed. It just won't hurt anymore. She just won't think about it anymore because she's the healed of the Lord. I thank you for this mighty man of valor. I thank you that you use these two as a sign and a wonder. I thank you. Use them to tear down prejudice. In the name of Jesus. In the name of Jesus. And your daddy ceiling is your floor. Your daddy ceiling is your floor. Step on up. Come up higher. Don't think small of yourself, says the Lord. Come up higher.
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Hallelujah.
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Father, I thank you. Right now, whatever this is going on in this heart right now, this physical heart, I speak the life of God. I speak the life of God. I speak that he has a perfect heart. Heart that his body is. Is perfectly designed for the plan that you have ahead for him, the mission that you have planned for him. In the name of Jesus. It's going to be fun. You're going to make beautiful babies. Amen.
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You're done.
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I'm drunk.
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All right. I'm so. I so like the use of the word library and laboratory.
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When I was at emic, I was recently ministering at the Pearsons, where they pastor. And I called up Dave and Aubrey, and God just said, it's lab work time. Because we're talking about ministering about these things, but we have to have a room where we put our hands on things and we navigate, and it's a safe room. We all just are learning together. And you always have an instructor that stands there and shows the students what they. What they need to see. But I guarantee you, they're all learning together, instructor and student. And because the Holy Ghost is so diverse and so vast, there's no. There's no searching. You can't reach the end. You can't reach the end and say, I've arrived at complete knowledge. Because he's so diverse. And so we're just. I just appreciate that we're in this place today. And I so appreciate when Ms. Riva ministers. It's like she conjures up images, you know that such a creative display. And I so value the way everybody, everybody flows. Amen. So I'm just waiting and let. Seeing which way to go next. And that's. We just need to make sure that the Holy Spirit has his room to do and to work and to say and to move right, and we don't step on his toes and move past him. Amen. Praise the Lord. So I actually brought sermons, sermon notes, but he can do whatever he wants to do. Miss Wendy. Come, love, come, come. Bring everything you want to bring. Bring Sarah if you want to. So Ms. Wendy here is her and Sarah from the UK. And so I told her, I said, you can't leave town till I'm speaking like you.
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You may be seated.
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That's what. You may be seated. You may be seated. That's what. See, I'm getting better.
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I don't know if you've been doing your homework. Don't put your hand up. From Dr. Bill Winston. It was here. But not just homework from him, but homework from the week of what passed. Nancy has said, so in the night. Ms. Reaper, thank you. I was sitting with God and let me see if I can find my verse. I was looking @amos, chapter nine that Dr. Bill gave us homework on, and I saw so much in it, and I hope it helps. How much time? Five minutes. All right. I'm just mindful now. Don't go over my time.
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Oh, isn't that nice? No, I can't do it. Okay, so Amos, chapter 9 and verse 13 to 15. And he used. He used the message Bible, which I found interesting because it's quite nice. So I wrote it down in my Bible. So because I didn't have a message Bible with me, I'm ashamed to say, oh, in rhyming mode. Just a minute. It's Ms. Rebo following after her. So here's what it said. It said, things are going to happen so fast, your head will swim. I thought, I like that. I mean, your head's going to be doing backstroke, breaststroke. Because faith is now. And he was teaching us to live in the moment with our faith. I thought, oh, my goodness, our head is not going to get in the way in this move because we're moving in deeper waters. Things are going to happen so fast, your head's going to swim one thing fast on the heels, heels of another. Of course, we know that faith is now Hebrews 11:1, but it's so important that we enter into rest and we know that that's what faith is. Because faith is certain it has already received what's been asked of it, right? Because faith knows what it's doing. So don't interfere with your faith. Just check that you're in it, right? Just check that you're on the bus. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. So it's up to us. So things are going to have to go so fast that our head will swim. Our head will swim. We're in it for the ride, but it's one that's been ordained for us. Us. Think of it. Swimming usually is a, a leisure, a. A leisure, a hobby to swim. And I just saw that place of rest, of backstroke. I can't do butterfly, can you? I mean, it's both arms, but your head won't have to work it out for you. It's like Ezekiel said, right? In, in. In chapter 47 about the waters, right? Rising ankle deep, knee deep. But we're up to our neck in this, ladies and gentlemen. I mean, there's, you know, this is it. This is it. And so what does that mean? It means that things are going to be revealed really quickly. Really quickly. And I. This was kind of spurred on by something Pastor Nancy said to me about buildings that actually, if you would. If you would start swimming with your mind in the place of rest, you'll find, just receive your building because it's waiting for you. I don't know pastors, but. But don't go looking for another rental. I just really felt that so strongly. Don't flip flop from place to place. But when I wrote the first line of Amos 9, it says, it won't be long. It won't be long. And then it says now. And I said, God, that doesn't fit. It won't be long now. It's like, what? It won't be long. Future hope. But then it says now. Oh my goodness. So our faith slots in that word to make it now. It won't be long now. What a contradiction. It won't be long now. And then God began to expand faith to me last night. It won't be long now. Now. Praise the Lord. Hallelujah. And then it says this. You won't be able to keep up. You're not going to be able to keep up. Does that matter? No. Just get in it. Just, just get in the water and prepare to go deeper. You'll notice. You'll notice that your head's going to swim. It means it's above water. Your head is above. It's above. It's above. It's above. Your head is above. You're going to swim in your mind and you're going to be able to just enjoy, enjoy. Let the current of the power of the Holy Spirit take you, move you into other places. Let him do it. Let him do, do it. Hallelujah.
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Let him do it.
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Move into now. It won't belong now.
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It won't belong now.
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You could say that many different ways, but it confused me. It confused me. It won't be long now. It's up to us. So an invitation has opened up to us through these meetings. I believe, I believe a door, a great door of opportunity. Never mind the other stuff. Look at the great door. Never mind what's around the door. Who cares? Who cares? Because we're going through. We've gone through. We've gone through the door, right? So our words, our songs, everything is in present tense now, now, now we're swimming now. We don't have to think about a thing. What are we going to think about? Praise the Lord. So you need to understand that of course, everything is big in God because God's big. And we had this beautiful lady in our church, and she would describe God like when you get close, closer, he's bigger than big. And when you get there, he's bigger still. And so we get to swim and live and move in his bigness and trust him.
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By.
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By not being in any form of turmoil or working it out. And I. I did that a couple times this week. I went there. But you know, it's a dead end. Have we ever gone down a road and it's a dead end?
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It says dead end.
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You've only got to turn around and come back. Why go? Why go? Why go to a place where there isn't an answer in your understanding? Why go there?
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Dead.
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Dead.
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Dead end. Dead end.
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Hallelujah. The only place where there's an entrance is in the place called Now, Now. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. And get this. In the verses, it says, because God is bigger than all. It says everywhere that you look. Everywhere, everywhere you look. Blessings everywhere you look.
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Blessings everywhere you look.
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The verse says, blessed blessings. What are you looking at? Everywhere you look, Blessings.
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Now.
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Now I'm gonna swim. Now I'm gonna swim in the deeper waters. How about you? And then I wanted to say this. And then of course, that took me to Acts, chapter two, thinking about the move of the Spirit and how everyone was in one accord 2 1. How they were together, assembled. And I think the Lord wanted me to mention this. I'm so mentioning it, is that I don't know how you pray in the spirit, but don't gabble. Don't gabble. I know I'm speaking to the choir, but I, I wanted to say this, that our chat with God, or him speaking with us, is conversation. Even talking out the plans of God, allow him to cross the T's and dot the I's. I mean, you wouldn't go in a coffee shop and go, I want a cup of coffee and a piece of cake. I want a cup of coffee and a piece of cake. I want a cup of coffee and I want a piece of cake. And yet in our prayer language, we're supposed to breathe. God ordained that we breathe when we pray. And so grenaste lei shay. Laying. Enjoy the words that come up from your heart. Enjoy and articulate and grow in your prayer language. Grow in the words of the spirit. Don't gabble. We're not doing a war dance, everybody. All right? We're not looking for a spiritual headache, a religious headache. Have you ever been in, sorry, live stream prayer meetings where you get a religious headache like, because it's like banging you? I got a, you know, you know, just understand everything that the enemy lives here. So what? So what? Who cares? I. I'm not. I haven't been put on the plan on the earth to consider his plans, but to destroy them by. By considering Jesus. Jesus. Hallelujah. And that what we've heard this week, the power that works in us. Amen. So don't gavel. But if you talk to him in the spirit, he'll talk to you. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. And I believe there's a fresh touch of the Holy Spirit. You know, we make an assumption that everybody here does speak in other tongues and filled with God. But if you're not, I mean, let somebody know and it's a wonderful church that will assist you in that or anybody online. Hallelujah. But the power of God, the Holy Ghost is falling afresh in this room. Rain, rain. Let it rain now. Oh, Father, we thank you for a fresh touch of the Holy Ghost. That we move from habit, that we move from a form, a form and a pattern into a flow that we can swim in our prayer life because the enemy would try to get us to just to get on with it. But we can't just get on with God because he's intimate and there are other rooms that he has for us to enter and you know, there's protocol in entering those rooms. I remember one day I was invited to ask to. To pray for your president. I thought, oh, I wasn't. You know, I'm not from this country. But in my prayer life, God's God showed me. We were in the White House. Never been there. But in prayer there, he said, now you go to this room at the side. Go there and wait. Go there and wait. And there was another room where we learned to get dressed and learned some things from an advisor that showed us how to address the office, how to. And you know what, it's like that in God, you've got to learn the etiquette in the spirit, because there's a protocol, there are manners. Hallelujah. And that's what I believe. We're learning more and more. Praise the Lord. So it won't be long now. Now, Father, we thank you for the fire of God. We thank you for Spirit, the Holy, Holy Spirit falling in this place right now. Oh, isn't it lovely? Hallelujah. It's like. Well, of course it's love. We thank you, Father. We receive a fresh touch of the Holy Ghost that washes us, refreshes us, that washes us with the power of the word. Hallelujah.
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Let's.
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So let's just do a little bit conversing slowly. Don't forget to breathe. Don't labor in vain. Enjoy that I am with you, that I am in you. Enjoy, enjoy. It's the place where we grow. Oh, Father, thank you for watering us today with the power of the Holy Spirit, we give you praise. Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Lord, for quietening minds, teaching us to swim, helping us to develop pictures in our heart of what that looks like, of rest. Thank you, you, Jesus. Thank you, Lord. And thank you for the assurance of everywhere we look there are blessings. Hallelujah. Already ransomed, already healed, already restored and already forgiven. Thank you for Father, in Jesus name, amen. Praise the Lord. That all right. Don't want to take up your time.
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So good. So sweet. So sweet. I love something that Wendy said. I hope I get it right. Just be you. Just everything of your ministry, just be you. Everything of your fellowship with God, just be you. And she said something to the effect or quoted somebody. I don't remember her quoting it or she said it, but she said, when I ministered as me, I found my ministry is that said right? That what is my ministry? Just you. Him flowing through you the way that suits you. Because he is so masterful. He doesn't have to have you a certain way before he can manifest. But if you just sincerely and simply just be you. And we saw that if you were ever around, that man was so simply him.
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And him was so unique in the himness. And there was such a sincerity and a genuineness. And because of that, the Holy Spirit was completely at home. Because one translation says about the Holy Spirit will make his home in you. Well, we want him to feel at home. Right. Have you ever gone to someone's home and it's their home, but you don't feel at home in their home because of the way they make you feel? Well, I want to host the Holy Spirit in such a way that he feels completely at home. And that happens when we are simply ourselves too.
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Right. Praise the lord. Thank you, Ms. Wendy. That's what I so love. She brings you back to center whenever you listen to her. All the riff raff goes. All the gabble goes gavel. What does that mean in your country? Is there a definition that would probably be the same?
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Too much chat.
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Just rattling. Rattling. My mother used to say to the four kids, quit rattling. Meaning you're saying something, but nobody needs to hear that. You're just. There's no point. There's no purpose. You're just feeling space. Don't do that. It's a poor habit that she would say, just because it's quiet doesn't mean that that's. And she would say, quit rattling. So now we know. Quit gabbling. That sounds a little nicer. Sounds a little nicer. Praise the Lord. Is it okay that we do this? I mean, we have just. We have. I mean, Dr. Winston just shoved us full, you know, and we were eating so quickly, and there's so much. And I so appreciate that what happened. He brought. Was just so in keeping with what God had already been feeding us on Sunday morning, Sunday night, Monday morning. And then he came and he just topped us off. But there's so much that God has for us this week. And it's not just one flow or it's not just, you know, one rhythm. Amen. There's nothing more monotonous than the same thing over and over. As sweet as it was the first time you heard it, it's so monotonous. And we were sitting at the restaurant the other day, and it was horrific music. Horrific. And I said, of all the sounds in the world, and this is the one we're listening to. You know that dance? No melody, no nothing, Just a driving beat. Like, I can't eat that away. You Know. And if we're not careful, your life can pick up that. I'm talking about a rhythm that has no flow in it. Breathe. Right. Breathe. Pastor Noel, come up if you would. Praise the Lord. Whatever God has you to do. Praise the lord. Now that Ms. Wendy centered us, we can go anywhere. Praise God.
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Yeah. Yes, Lord. I go shift. Yeah. Oh, yes. You're bringing us to a dimension beyond space and time. Yeah. Bring us into a place of dominion. Ah. Go share. Yeah. In the spirit. Yeah. Yeah. Yakoshi. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Fight the good fight of faith. Lay hold. Lay hold of eternal life. Lay hold of that life beyond space and time. In praying in the Spirit, being filled with the Holy Ghost. The Holy Ghost is power. The Holy Ghost is dominion. As you pray in the Spirit, you go beyond space and time. Ah. You place. God will place you in a place of dominion over space and time. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They are in sorrow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They are in fear. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But God, Jesus said.
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My father, my father. You shall receive power. You shall receive dominion. You shall receive power beyond the space and time. And hakoshoto, your sorrow will turn into joy. Oh, my, my God. Yeah. Oh. You shall be filled with dominion. You shall be filled with power beyond space and time where things accelerate when you speak from that place.
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Yeah. And there will be worship. There will be worship. There will be ministering unto the Lord. Ah, yeah. There are teachers and prophets as they minister unto the Lord. There will be music given by the Spirit beyond the space and time. It's unhavenly music. It's a heavenly utterance that the prophet will speak and give direction to ministers. Ah, Yakosho. Separate. Separate me, Paul and Barnabas. And getting into a new phase in their ministry. Getting into a place of apostleship. But there are praise, praises that they brought unto the Lord. Praise is a copa shuka that will cause. That will cause hakoto shoto prophet, prophets to speak. Prophet to speak and bring them places. Places in ministry. Oh, yeah. Rooms and faces of ministry that never been there before. Beyond the space and time. Beyond the space and time. And the sudden leaves will start to flow. We will walk in that place where there will be no sorrow. Even sorrow will turn into joy. Oh, my God. And you will speak. You will speak in that place of dominion and the place in the Spirit that all things. Because it's time. It's time for the fullness of the Spirit. It's time for my people to speak in that realm wherein. Hallelujah. Have Dominion over space and time. Because it is now.
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Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord.
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Lay hold of that eternal life. And that eternal life, the life of Christ. The resurrection power. Lay hold of it. That's what. That's what. Being filled with the spirit. That's what. Being filled with spirit. We go beyond the space and time. And the word that we have spoken will surely come to pass. And things, things, buildings, all those things we're gonna need to fulfill the ministry will come quickly, quickly, quickly. Because is is beyond space and time. Get into the spirit. Get however in the spirit. However in the spirit. We speak mystery, Haku, that needs to be revealed by the Holy Ghost. And every and every sorrow. Everything that is in the past that brings you down. Yaako. Don't wait so that we can run. We can run with joy. There's only joy. There's only joy in the fullness of the Spirit. It's time for us to stand up and be filled with the Holy Ghost. Be filled with the power that go beyond the space in the time of this earth. And we bring into a place of dominion. And in that place revelation will come. And we speak that revelation in that place. Amen. And things on the earth will tell.
E
Praise the Lord.
B
Hallelujah.
A
Praise the Lord.
D
Praise God.
A
Praise the Lord. Thank you, Father. Thank you, Father. Praise the Lord. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Because the spirit realm doesn't have the same stipulations on it that this realm has, right? Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Pastor Ike, whatever you have, come on up. Love.
E
The Lord. Jesus was just saying to me, if she calls you up there, I want you to say this to the people. Remember where I have seen set you. Remember where I have set you. Just as as important as fulfilling your assignment is taking the place I have set you. In 1 Corinthians 12:18 it says, he sets them in the body as he has pleased them. Many lose their mantle. Many never go farther because they illusteem the place that he has set them. Just like you bring your faith for your buildings and your wonderful things. You must bring your your faith to where he placed you. Psalm 92:13 says that those that be placed planted in the house of the Lord shall flourish in his courts. Productivity is connected to where God sent you. You can produce beyond your location. You know, this week we have been so thrilled. I just go just weeping, thinking my gosh. And he will say, say to me, it's because you are where I set you. What about if we didn't honor that? What about if we didn't honor that, because it's easy to come and celebrate, receive. God never sends you to a place to tap an anointing. He sends you to a place of divine connection where things flow from you and things are flown into you. In Ephesians, chapter 4, in verse 16, it says, all of us are joined together by that which every joint supplies. Your now is connected to what's flowing out of you. Because if something is not flowing out of you, you might as well forget now because he set you there for something to flow out of you. When things flow out of you, things come into you. So we must remember that new living translation of. Of that verse in Ephesians 4 says, as each one does their own special work, it causes the whole. It causes the whole. It causes the whole to be built up. I see a couple of ministers in the street spirit that left those places that he set them. And that's the reason for those health issues. And if you will make adjustment this morning, it will be reversed right now. Do you hear that? If you will make adjustment this morning, he will reverse that right now. That's why those I see organ collapsing, it will come right back. Collapsing, will come right back. That's what we are supposed to do. Stay where you're supposed to be. Not just come and go. Not just. Just come and go. I. I was talking with Jesus sitting there. I said, but it sounds like an old record. He reminded me of the words of my grandpa. He said, look at the birds. And he will say that over and over and over and over and over. And then he will say, turn to First Corinthians, chapter 12. Right? Don't be ignorant when it comes to spirit spiritual things. Amen. Hallelujah. Glory to God. I see that somebody's kidneys is coming back alive. Where are you? Where are you? Kidneys. Kidneys. Coming back alive. Where are you? Somebody's kidneys. Where are you? Coming back alone, alive. If you're watching online, receive that too. Coming back alive. They've done testing and the numbers are low, but they will come back up right now. Is that you? All right. Why don't you just come up here as a demonstration to the people. Thank you, Father. Glory to God.
B
Glory.
E
Glory. Glory. Glory. Glory to God. To God. Glory to God. Glory. Glory to God. Is it okay, Mom? Thank you, Father. Hallelujah. Thank you, Jesus. All right. Today, today, today, after you leave, those numbers will go up. Amen. That's why in your back, it just. It seems like it's a squeeze. It squeezes you, it squeezes you. Sometimes it will stop right now too.
D
Haha.
E
Jesus makes you whole completely. That child of yours will make a return. In the name of Jesus. I see him coming back. They'll make a return. Return. Do you believe that? Be it unto you. Hallelujah. Glory to God. Hallelujah. If you have a collapsed lung, stand to your feet. Something wrong with your lungs. Stand up. Looking around. Something wrong with your lungs. Stand up. Glory to God. Hallelujah. Come on up here. Praise God. Thank you, Jesus. Glory. Glory. Glory. Glory. Glory. Glory. Glory. Glory. Glory. Glory. Glory. Glory. Haha. Glory. Glory. Glory. Glory. Glory. Glory. There are angels. They're doing what I'm doing. Just pulling it back up, pulling it back up.
C
Up.
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Restored.
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Restored in Jesus name. Glory to God. Pull it back up, pull it back up. Pull it back up. Pull it back up. Pull it back up. Pull it back up, pull it back up. It goes from your lungs and it just revolves around your chest. It comes back, it just makes it tight, tight. Tightness. Tightness. Have you experienced that before anything? Jesus Name Today. Today. Today. Today. Today. Today. Today. Today. Today. Today. Today. Hallelujah. Isn't it wonderful to be in these meetings? Hallelujah. Be where God sent you. Amen. There's a couple of things he said to remind to do. You started last year. You need to speed it up this year for the full fruition of it. Does that make any sense to you? All right. Praise God. Thank you, Mama.
C
Thank you.
A
Praise the Lord. I was. You've heard me say that the wonderful. One of the wonderful things about living with the My husband was that he would narrate services to me if he wasn't preaching, you know, and then if he was preaching, sometimes he would say things afterwards, describing it and explaining it. But to be in a meeting when someone else was ministering and he would just sit there and say, did you sense that shift? Did you sense. Do you sense this? Do you sense that healing just came in the room? Or you sense this? And sometimes I go, no, but.
D
I'll.
A
Try that right now, you know. But that was the privilege of living with your Bible school, you know. And so we were in the back room years ago with a wonderful man of God and before the. And he was being very candid about some of the things he was going through physically and very, very difficult things. And he had seemed to. He wasn't. Some of that stuff was still lingering, but had gotten past some of the hardest part of it. And so he went out and ministered beautifully taught beautifully. And you could tell that some closing statements were being made. He wasn't announcing the close of the service, but you could hear the statements winding down. And then Ed said to me, now, he said that healing anointing just came in the room. Did you sense it? And he turned to me and said, did you sense that? And then the man who was teaching closed his Bible, picked it up and walked off. And Ed said, it's not because of lack of exercise like he thinks, that he has that situation. He said, that's the reason he has those physical conditions, because he's in disobedience to the Holy Ghost. When God moves into a room, that is his command. When he's moving a certain way, we're to move with that. And if we choose to go a different way, we're in disobedience. Even if we continue to teach the Word. Many can teach the Word in absolute disobedience to what the Spirit was wanting to do in that service. Understand that I'm not devaluing the Word. But then people will disobey the Holy Ghost by trying to flow when the Spirit wants to say something through the teaching or the preaching of the Word. So what he wants to do in the room, he gets his way. And if we don't follow that, we get into disobedience. Well, see that. That was never caught and never corrected. I'm talking about with that minister. And so things would continue, you know, because they. And I'm so grateful that my husband taught me to connect things. Learn to connect the dots in your life.
F
Yes, ma'.
E
Am. Yes.
A
Some people, they go through things and they're just so mindless. They just go to the doctor or they go to someone else and get help and whatever. And they don't ever. Wait a minute. What opened the door to this? Let's learn.
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Connect.
A
I call it connect the dots. Connect the dots. Connect the dots. And I was sitting and listening to one minister. I was talking to them, and prophet of God, the real, the genuine article. And she held a deep, a weighty place in the Spirit, you know? And so in talking to her. And I had been in a service, she was in the service, and I was ministering, ministering to the sick. And she said, I haven't done that in years. She said, I'd love to pray, but, Sid, I just left the healing part to my husband, who was the pastor. And I said, but don't you understand? You're ministering healing from an office. A pastor will minister healing from his office. But a prayer prophet Ministers it from a different office. You cannot. You cannot relegate what flows out of your office as a prophet to flow out of your husband as a pastor. It's not possible. And they said, but I love to pray. And I said, well, that's wonderful, but praying is not the fulfilling of that office when God wants to manifest. And so. So I just started connecting dots and things that just went wrong in their life. And I connect dots because they didn't even realize that what you're saying is the reason you're facing things you're facing. So it's so good that God had pastor Ike remind us where you're set. There are things to flow out of that place where you're set. And if you complain against where you're set, well, I don't want to preach. I don't want to teach. I don't want to travel. Can I. I'm just going to. I'll just say it. I'll just say it because I just am going to say it. If you're married to a traveling minister, the devil will work on you to hate travel so that you don't take your place alongside your spouse to bring the supply to them. And I've seen spouses die because they decided they hated travel more than they loved the plan. And the devil will push on you to learn to hate what you're born for because he'll sabotage you that when you go to step out in something that you're born for, he'll attack you so much in that that you'll back up and you'll get back into a place of no attack and you abandon your seat. And then. And then that's why, and I've seen it time and time again, why women would die prematurely. They didn't have to have a pulpit ministry, but they did have to bring a supply to the man who had the pulpit ministry. I've seen it time and time again. Well, I don't like to travel. Well, you have to value the plan above your preference. And if you'll learn to agree with the plan, the plan will become the love of your life.
B
Amen. That's right.
A
And you quit loving your comfort. I decided long ago I refused to dread what I'm born for. And the devil will try to make you dread what you're born for. And I've seen it time and time again with traveling ministers, the wife hating to travel because they did not renew their mind to their place, and then they did not show up at their place. And then they go and Tell people, my husband leaving all the time, broke up our marriage when they should have been with their spouse bringing their supply. And quit blaming the ministry and blaming the traveling part of the ministry. Well, you know, they abandoned their home. Your home is in the plan. Your home is not just a location. Your home is in the plan. And I am at home wherever I go. It's not a location. It's not a structure. It's not where my refrigerator is. It's where the plan of God is. I'm at home in the plan. Meaning I don't care where that plan carries me. I'm not displaced. And people do not have their minds renewed. And psychological Help has tried to define why you're troubled. The reason you're troubled is you're not in agreement with the place. God is saying upset you. But you're blaming the ministry and the absent husband.
E
Come on.
A
And he shouldn't have been absent because you should have been present. You're welcome. Well, a wife's place is at home. A wife's place is in the plan with her husband. And let them agree where that is. But don't let somebody else with an unrenewed mind tell you that your life has to look like sin. Someone else's life. My husband traveled and I stayed at home, pastored, and I raised the kids. I was grateful that God allowed me to pastor for 25 years while I was raising my children. But I did not try to make my home look like someone else's home and say, well, why isn't my husband home? The kids, I never let them complain against their daddy not being there, why I was there. I'm enough here.
C
Come on.
A
And I would tell them, the reason our life is sweet is because your dad is obeying God. Anything God tells him to do does not rob from your life. It adds to your life. And I will not put up with the devil telling you that your house has to look like someone else's house. Our house looks like the plan. And you, you have no business. You do not have to. You do not have to ignore your children, slight your children in parenting, because we would just take them with us. My life does not fit into my children's life. Their life fits into mine. I'm not rewiring my life because you have to go to bed at a certain time.
B
That's right.
C
Amen.
A
I taught my children you sleep. You sleep with lights on because life is not always going to give you a dark, silent room.
B
Amen.
A
Amen. I am not catering my life to you, you're coming into the plan. You are not the plan, child. You are not the plan. You are to contribute to the plan, but you are not the plan.
E
That's right.
A
You're welcome to help some of you, because the plan is what the whole family is to agree with. And I have no complaint about it. And everybody is to bring their part.
C
Amen.
A
Yes. Yes, yes. So, wives of traveling ministers, if you want to live long, if you want to live long and live happy and not tear up your home complaining that he's gone, do what we're talking about. Love your place where God set you. And don't let the devil cause you to complain against your place because it's not comfortable. Because you have to know this. Anything that you're harassed in, God probably has something for you in that direction. And the devil's constantly going to push against you of what you're born for to try to get you to not occupy it.
C
Very good.
B
Amen.
A
Amen. I just get tired. I weary of hearing traveling ministers complained against because of unrenewed minds at home. Your home does not have to look like every. You know, something. I told my kids, you can have some extracurricular activities. You can. The kids were in sports or whatever they wanted to do, but we're not in six of them. That's right. To where my whole life is chauffeuring you to something so you can just play and have recreation all day. This family's producing something. We'll be a kid with a kid. But your recreation life is not the center of this home that you go to ballet and twinkle toes and gymnasium and all this stuff, the gym and, you know, gymnastics and cheerleading and, you know, and T ball and football and forget that.
D
Come on. Amen.
A
You can do some of that, but you are not the center of my joy. And then people say, well, you as a minister, you just didn't stay home and tend to your wife. No, some didn't take their place in the plan. Amen. So don't fall into that psychological mess trying to pinpoint, Trying to pinpoint through looking at others lives of where your life isn't measuring up to the status quo. Your life should look like the plan for your life. I heard a pastor's wife walk up to my child one day in the background and say, oh, isn't it so hard being a preacher's kid? And I stepped right in the big middle of that devil lie. Yeah, it's a devil lie. And I said, he's more blessed. He gets to Live with a preacher and it didn't make his life harder. He got benefits that others would love to have his place. Don't talk that mess to my child. You have given your children permission to misbehave by saying it's hard being a preacher. Pastor's kid. What's hard is an unrenewed mind, and that's what's talking. Your mind is not renewed, brother. Just flew all over me. Why? Because I teach my kids to think right. And I'm not going to have somebody come with an unrenewed mind and try to poke unrenewed thinking. You have to protect your family from wrong thinking because the devil's always trying to get you to fall into the status quo of what everything else is look like. Amen. Our job is to occupy. Thank you. Occupy the seat. Amen. And joyfully occupy it. Joyfully occupy that. God even noticed to give me a seat. And if it's pleased, for if he's pleased to set me there, I'm pleased to be there. Amen. Praise the Lord. It's all your fault, Pastor Iker. But I'm just saying people need to think, right? People need. When you married a man, you stepped into the covenant of what that is to be fulfilled in that plan. And you don't get to rewrite the plan because you want a refrigerator. No. Well, that came later. It doesn't matter. You might not not have known it when you're married, but now you're married, you're still in covenant, and you fall in step. You fall in step. Don't let the devil break your step by harassing you. To where? Well, I don't like traveling. Get past that. That's your flesh. You're welcome. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Well, the Lord is good. I said the Lord is good. And then the ministry gets blamed. And the ministry's done nothing but bless our life. Done nothing but bless our life. Why does the ministry. It's just bringing the help of God to the life of people. How is that hurting anyone's life? And I don't blame God for how people treat me.
C
Yeah, that's right.
A
I don't blame the ministry for how people treat me because that isn't the ministry's fault. That's unrenewed thinking.
D
Amen.
A
Well, the ministry hurt my family. That's a lie from hell. That's a lie from the pit of hell. Yes, it is. It was unrenewed minds. And you know what? You can go get a job at A bank or get a job at a grocery store and be around unsaved. And you talk about hurting your life, you'll hurt your life then. Yeah, well, I got so hurt in the church. Well, that's just because you're touching. Because you're touching. I don't give permission to people to hurt me. Don't give them that permission. Amen. I do my thinking. You don't do my thinking for me. I do my feeling. You don't do my feeling for me. You don't tell me how I feel. Because you didn't pay my bill today. Just clean it.
C
Clean up the thinking.
A
Clean it up. Go back to common sense.
B
Amen.
A
I saw a truck going down the road in front of me and they had a bumper sticker on their back windshield, you know, because it had truck bed. They put it in the windshield and they said, common sense. They showed a picture of a gravestone and they said, common sense. We miss you. And they've been dead and buried. But not here. Not here, not here. Not. Amen. Amen. Just thinking, right? Just anything God involves me in on, it's a joy, it's a delight. I delight to do thy will. I greatly delight in his commandments. Why? Because when I do what he commands, the blessing increases. Amen. I am thrilled to go where he tells me to go. I don't care what city it is, what town it is, what. But it looks like I'm just thrilled that God spoke my name in connection with a plan. Amen. Hallelujah. And if you're not happy to be there, you need to learn to bloom. It needs to get better. Because you arrived, you ought to walk in and say, your rescue has come. Why? Because the plan of God rescues the lives of people. Amen.
B
Hallelujah.
A
Well, praise the Lord. I said praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. I think we ought to do one other thing. Pastor Edwin and Angela, come up here, if you would. I want you tongues and interpretation. Just minister to the congregation. Just seems like to me you just have a general word. So just follow what the Holy Ghost tells.
F
Well, I'm talking to you. I'm not talking to your neighbor or somebody down the street. I'm talking to you. Open your heart and receive what I'm saying to you, and it will change your life. Or you can go on in rebellion and go on in your own way, and you see where that's taken you so far, but you haven't been willing to give it up. So turn, turn, turn and receive the word of the Lord. Yield your yourself to the spirit of the Lord and learn and grow and be a blessing to all. Amen.
B
Amen.
F
Well, where do I go from here? I've been corrected. But now what do I do? Go back to your place of prayer. Go back to your place of meditation. Go back to the place of revelation. Revelation. And receive the word of the Lord for you. And if you walk in that, then everything will be right. Amen.
A
Praise the Lord.
B
You good.
A
You know, it's not just outward obedience, but it's inward agreement too. Because sometimes we can outwardly obey just because we know how to do it. We know we're supposed to do it, but our heart isn't playing pleased in it. Isn't pleased in it. Well, we just make those inward adjustments, don't we? Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. We thank you, Father. Stand with me if you would. Father, we just thank you for just a refreshing service, this laboratory of the spirit to learn, to observe and to flow. Father, we thank you that you help us. You help us tweak our path along the way. And we thank you, Father, that as we leave this place, that we leave with greater accuracy, that we live accurately, we see accurately, we walk accurately, we speak more accurately in agreement with your plan. We thank you, Father. And I'm reminded, Jesus, of what you said to me that day in St. Petersburg, Russia, when you talk to me about the price of the double portion anointing. One of the things you emphasized is if you're going to walk and finish and fulfill the plan of God, you have to be divine. You have to stay connected to your divine connections and stay rightly connected. Not loosely connected, but tightly connected. And so we thank you, Father, that in this place we have a company that we just run together in the plan of God. And we're so grateful we're not running alone. So grateful we're not running alone. But we have the faith of others to encourage and refresh us. We thank you for it, Father. Just lift up your hands and worship him. We worship you. We make any inward adjustments. It's so easy to do. It's simple to do. We make it. And on the other end of those adjustments is an unhindered flow of your blessing. We thank you, Father. We trust you've enjoyed this message. Visit us@DefrainMinistries.org to learn of our upcoming meetings, share your testimony, become a partner or visit our online store. Store. This program has been made possible by the friends and partners of defrain Ministries.
Host: Pastor Nancy Dufresne, Dufresne Ministries
Date: January 20, 2026
This episode of the Dufresne Ministries Podcast centers on the power, necessity, and present move of the Holy Spirit in the believer’s life and the church. Through worship, prophecy, teaching, and prayer, the service powerfully encourages listeners to embrace both the ‘library’ (wisdom, legacy, and Word) and the ‘laboratory’ (creative, current move) aspects of God’s work. The worship and teaching exhorts listeners to honor their God-given place and supply, flow with the Holy Spirit, and find joy in obedience to the divine plan—while featuring prophetic ministry, healing, and practical wisdom for Christian living.
(02:40–05:24, 23:30–25:51)
“What I love here...they’ll reach back into the library, but they’re not afraid...to let it be the laboratory for a minute.”
— [Speaker B, 05:15]
(05:24–14:26, 14:39–23:24)
“The miracle is in the house. We don’t have to go anywhere else...it’s in the house.”
— [Speaker B, 08:43]
(25:51–40:23)
“An invitation has opened up to us through these meetings...a great door of opportunity. Never mind the other stuff...because we’re going through.”
— [Ms. Wendy, 32:13]
“God ordained that we breathe when we pray...Enjoy the words that come up from your heart...Don’t gabble.”
— [Ms. Wendy, 34:54]
(42:17–46:57)
(46:57–52:44)
“The Holy Ghost is power...The Holy Ghost is dominion. As you pray in the Spirit, you go beyond space and time...”
— [Pastor Noel, 48:21]
(53:18–61:42)
“Many lose their mantle...because they ill-esteem the place He has set them.”
“Your now is connected to what’s flowing out of you.”
— [Pastor Ike, 53:18]
(61:43–79:37)
“Our house looks like the plan...Your life should look like the plan for your life.”
— [Pastor Nancy, 70:29]
(79:37–80:42)
The episode is marked by a fluid, Spirit-led tone—alternating between prophetic ministry, passionate exhortation, personal story, and practical teaching. The speakers blend deep affection, playful humor, and earnest correction in a uniquely engaging, family-like ministry context.
Overall, the key takeaways are: