Podcast Summary: Progressing In The Healing Anointing | Nancy Dufresne | Paducah, Kentucky | JTH Crusades 2025 | Wednesday PM

Date: June 4, 2025
Host/Speaker: Pastor Nancy Dufresne
Podcast: Dufresne Ministries Podcast

Episode Overview

In this powerful episode recorded at a JTH Crusade in Paducah, Kentucky, Pastor Nancy Dufresne imparts foundational teaching on progressing in the healing anointing, emphasizing the importance of honoring the anointing, sharing testimonies, and maintaining a persistent, aggressive faith for healing. Through personal stories, biblical exposition, and a time of ministry for healing, she challenges listeners and ministers alike to honor divine connections, persist through challenges, and realize the transformative power of the anointing within the church.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Temple, its Purpose, and God's Plan for Healing

• Nancy begins the message by drawing a parallel between Jesus driving out the money changers from the temple and believers refusing to let sickness rob their lives of purpose.

  • "Sickness and disease and symptoms and pain are trying to rob the temple of its highest purpose. And he’s not okay with that. Amen." (02:10)

• Aggressiveness in Faith:

  • “We can't be apathetic or half-hearted, but we're aggressive and we're bold not to allow the temple to be robbed from.” (03:30)
  • Reference to Brother Norville’s story, emphasizing personal responsibility in receiving and enforcing healing (05:00).

The Power and Repetition of Testimony

• The Value of Telling Stories:

  • Nancy shares the story of Smith Wigglesworth’s granddaughter being asked by Jesus to “Tell me your stories,” underscoring that testimonies magnify heaven and instruct others. (10:00)

• Importance of Hearing Leaders’ Testimonies:

  • “Your congregation’s pastor needs to know your testimony. They need to hear the journey ... how you got out the whip and started whipping it—started kicking over tables.” (19:15)
  • The process of standing on the Word, not just receiving the answer, and how repeated testimonies strengthen faith as spiritual maturity grows (22:00–26:00).

Finding Yourself in the Word

• Jesus as Our Example:

  • Nancy unpacks Jesus reading from Isaiah in Luke 4 and finding Himself in the scripture.
  • “He found the place where it was written. The Spirit of the Lord is upon me... This is not the first time he had found it. No doubt he’s reading Isaiah... ‘Father, who’s that talking about?’ ‘Son, that’s you.’” (45:20)

• Valuing the Anointing:

  • “It’ll get you in big trouble in many ways to start diminishing and devaluing the office you’re called to and the anointing upon you. It’s not humility to devalue the anointing...” (50:00)
  • Jesus boldly declares His anointing not in pride, but in agreement with His purpose (51:00).

Responding to, Honoring, and Progressing in the Anointing

• Repeating the Message Despite Opposition:

  • Nancy describes how Jesus faced rejection in Nazareth after declaring His anointing, but never let intimidation change His message or practice (54:00–57:00).
  • “Jesus had the faith to say, ‘I know what I’m preaching in every city.’ He didn’t care who didn’t receive it.” (58:00)

• Unique Grace in Ministry Offices:

  • She explains pastoral anointing is not interchangeable with evangelists or apostles, and congregations must know and honor what’s on their leaders (01:03:10).
  • “There’s equipment in that pastoral office that no other office has.” (01:04:00)

Testimony of Progression: Ed Dufresne’s Story

• Ed Dufresne’s Journey:

  • Born into alcoholism and mental illness, Ed’s life exemplifies how the Word, when responded to, can alter generational trajectories.
    • Story of Ed’s hopelessness, interaction with a priest, and God’s audible call: “He said, ‘You’re going to go all over the world and preach the gospel.’ Notice He didn’t talk to him about his addictions. He talked to him of the plan.” (01:11:00)

• Progress Through Obedience:

  • Ed transitioned from cleaning toilets to funding building projects, to stepping into the healing ministry through supernatural encounters and impartations.
  • “Nothing is beneath the one in Christ. Don’t ever belittle any opportunity God gives you.” (01:17:25)
  • On practical faith: “This faith will do whatever it takes. And whatever it takes will not just feed your life; it’ll feed someone else’s.” (01:30:00)

• Key Encounters Leading to the Healing Anointing:

  • Hearing the Word of Faith at the Full Gospel Businessmen’s Convention; connections to John Osteen, Kenneth Copeland, and Kenneth Hagin (01:35:00)
  • Receiving a tangible healing anointing at a convention after being slain in the Spirit (01:39:00)
  • “Jesus walked in and put something in my hand, and it’s burning ... She said, ‘That’s healing power.’” (01:41:00)
  • Miraculous occurrences—tumors bursting, multiplying resources, a child’s club feet straightened during preaching—underscore God’s power in testimony and obedience (01:55:00).

The Importance of Honor, Connections, and Staying the Course

• Honoring Spiritual Connections:

  • “Stay with them till the end, unless God tells you differently. And I guarantee you offense can’t tell you differently. Offense won’t dismiss you.” (02:25:00)
  • God rewards those who honor “until the end”—reiteration through the story of Norval Hayes (02:30:00).
  • On impartation: “To have a double portion, you have to see them when they go. You can’t get in a healing line, a ministry line, and get a double portion.” (02:35:20)

• Guarding Against Offense:

  • “Offense disqualifies you for everything else ... My pastor will never offend me. That’s a choice I make.” (02:41:00)

Healing Ministry and Demonstration

• Call for Faith and Corporate Engagement:

  • “When we release our faith for someone else, it boomerangs back into our own health.” (02:55:30)
  • Instruction for the healing lines, testimonies during ministry to those with heart conditions, metal in their bodies, and joint replacements.

• Miraculous Outcomes:

  • Immediate testimonies: pain gone, club feet straightened, freedom of mobility, replacements not needed—emphasis on expectation and not accommodating past pain or diagnosis.
  • “We expect wholeness. We expect freedom of movement. We change our expectation.” (02:57:00)

Conclusion: The Anointing Is Sustained by Testimony and Honor

• Final Reminders:
  • Nancy stresses the necessity of repeating testimonies, not out of tradition but as a generator of the anointing flow and faith for healing.
    • “There's not a stronger flow that comes until I tell that testimony. The testimony brings in that healing anointing stronger than any other sermon, any other flow.” (03:11:00)
  • The importance of obedience, humility, and honoring those who paved the way in both faith and practical ministry (03:16:00).

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On personal responsibility in healing:
  • “How long are you going to put up with those growths on your daughter’s body?... It’s not about heaven doing something. It’s about, what are you going to do about this?” – Nancy retelling a conversation between Jesus and Brother Norville (06:35)
• On repeated testimonies:
  • “Preachers, tell your testimony, then watch what God does.” (24:00)
• On faith and the anointing:
  • “It’s not humility to devalue the anointing and the call. That’s not humility; it’s a strategy of the devil.” (50:00)
• On serving:
  • “Nothing is beneath the one in Christ... That action was elevated by the heart behind it.” (01:17:25)
• On obedience:
  • “You don’t do something like [sell your house] unless God tells you to. But if He tells you to, it’s connected to something much greater.” (01:36:30)
• On spiritual inheritance:
  • “Obedience today came because of obedience in yesteryear... You don’t get anywhere alone. Somebody paid a price to facilitate it.” (02:16:35)
• On staying, honoring, and impartation:
  • “You cannot have a double portion. You cannot—to have a double portion, you have to see them when they go...” (02:35:20)
  • “Offense is a decision... My pastor will never offend me. That’s a choice I make.” (02:41:00)
• On the legacy of faith:
  • “Anything that happens in these meetings did not begin in these meetings. It began years ago with a man who said yes to cleaning the toilets.” (03:16:40)
• On expectation:
  • “We expect wholeness. We expect freedom of movement. We change our expectation.” (02:57:00)

Noteworthy Timestamps

• 00:00 – 05:00: Introduction; parallel of Jesus cleansing the temple and aggressive faith for healing.
• 10:00 – 29:00: The power and purpose of repeated testimony in the believer’s and leader’s life.
• 45:20 – 55:00: Luke 4; Jesus finds Himself in the Word – a model for believers.
• 01:10:00 – 01:20:00: Ed Dufresne’s early life, obstacles, and the call of God.
• 01:39:00: Ed receives the healing anointing—supernatural encounter.
• 01:55:00: Notable early miracles in Ed’s ministry.
• 02:25:00 – 02:35:20: The critical importance of honor in receiving spiritual inheritance.
• 02:41:00: Practical teaching on guarding against offense.
• 02:55:00 – 03:11:00: Healing ministry line, miracles, and testimonies.
• 03:16:00: Conclusion; honor, legacy, and ministry to those present.

Tone & Language

Pastor Nancy Dufresne’s tone is warm, humorous at points, direct, and deeply pastoral. She shares stories with vivid detail, often interjecting personal anecdotes, and gives practical, faith-stirring instruction. Her language balances reverence and relational ease, fostering expectancy in the congregation for both receiving and honoring the things of the Spirit.

Summary

This episode is a masterclass in understanding, valuing, and progressing in the healing anointing. Through layered storytelling, biblical teaching, and practical demonstration, Pastor Nancy calls believers—especially ministers—to remember and honor their spiritual lineage, steward testimonies well, resist passive attitudes toward sickness, and to boldly receive and administer healing by faith. The narrative is anchored in her late husband Ed Dufresne’s journey and serves as a blueprint for how ordinary beginnings, when met with obedience and persistence, can open lives to extraordinary anointing and generational transformation.

For listeners desiring to move deeper into the healing anointing or practical ministry, this teaching provides both the biblical framework and lived testimony to strengthen faith, honor spiritual legacies, and manifest the fullness of God’s purposes.