Resisting Gets You Into Receiving, Part 1 | Stephen Dufresne | Paducah, Kentucky | JTH Crusades 2025 | Monday AM

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Resisting Gets You Into Receiving, Part 1

Speaker: Stephen Dufresne
Event: JTH Crusades 2025, Paducah, Kentucky, Monday AM
Release Date: May 27, 2025
Podcast: Dufresne Ministries Podcast

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode, led by Stephen Dufresne, focuses on a transformative message for healing and the spiritual dynamic between resistance and receiving. Speaking at the Jesus The Healer Crusade, Stephen emphasizes that true receiving, especially regarding healing, requires the active resistance of doubt, comfort, and passivity. Attendees and listeners are challenged to move beyond seeking a feeling or a sign, and instead to stand steadfast in faith, persistently rejecting unbelief, in order to fully receive what God has already promised.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Faith Over Feelings: Healing Happens by Belief, Not Sensation

• (02:16) “This week, I am receiving the knowledge to receive my healing and keep my healing. I am leaving here completely healed, even if I don’t feel healed, because I don’t go by feeling, I go by faith.” — Stephen
• The danger of relying on physical sensations as evidence of spiritual healing.
• Example of people attending church or healing services but leaving unchanged due to lack of true engagement or belief.

2. Miracles in the "Impossible": God's Power is Not Limited

• (03:13–05:03) Testimonies about praying for children with Down syndrome and autism.
• Stephen shares a powerful story of a man with Down syndrome whose life and even physical features transformed through meditating on the Word.
• “Sickness is an evil spirit... when you see it as an evil spirit, that means you can talk to it. And when you can talk to it, you can cast it out.” — Stephen (05:03)

3. Scriptural Example: The 25-Mile Walk of Faith (John 4)

• (06:01–13:58) The faith journey of the nobleman whose son was at the brink of death.
  • Walking 25 miles with only Jesus’ words as assurance.
  • The relentless battle of resisting doubt along the way.
• “He’s got to resist the urge to speak doubt and unbelief.” — Stephen (09:33)
• “As long as you resist the urge to doubt, you’re going to receive. It’s biblical.” — Stephen (11:43)

4. Effort Required: Don’t Wait for a Sensation, Act on Faith

• (14:12–16:28) The futility of waiting for a physical feeling before acting in faith.
• The healing pool of Bethesda: people had to “arise” or act to receive their healing.
• “The receiving is in the try. That’s where your miracle happens. There’s a sliver in there from the Word to manifestation, and you gotta try.” — Stephen (16:11)

5. Abundance Mindset: The Lesson of ‘Seepage’ (John 6)

• (16:38–21:28) The feeding of the 5,000 and the principle of provision replenishing as it’s used.
• “Seepage” as a metaphor for believing God’s provision and healing are never exhausted; every action of faith draws more.
• “Anytime provision is removed, it is seeped back into your bag... you have to believe every time you reach inside that bag to remove something, that seepage is happening in your life.” — Stephen (20:49)

6. Resisting Discomfort and the Familiar

• (21:55–24:06) “Sickness must be put into a place of discomfort, even at the expense of your own discomfort. Most people like to be comfortable... but sickness is an invasion in your body that must be put out aggressively.” — Stephen (22:07)
• Testimony of a woman healed of tuberculosis by acting according to what the Bible says about wholeness, instead of waiting for a feeling.
• The importance of occupying the “property” of healing and not letting doubts (or comfort) reclaim the ground won by faith.

7. Resisting Rewrites Your Destiny

• (26:57; 27:07) “Resisting rewrites your destiny.” — Stephen
• The importance of not seeking repeated confirmation/prayer for the same thing but standing firm on a single point of contact.
• Analogy: “I don’t go up and get born again because I don’t feel born again... at the end of the day, I am married whether I feel like it or not. It’s the same thing with healing.” — Stephen (30:08)

8. Persisting in Obedience: The Blind Man’s Journey (John 9)

• (31:56–36:49) The man born blind, instructed to go and wash before he could see — an act requiring trust without immediate evidence or comfort.
• “He’s got to resist the urge to quit, to what? To receive.” — Stephen (35:14)

9. Healing Requires Readiness for Work, Not Idleness

• (38:51–41:33) “Healing is not for the lazy... Healing takes you out of idleness and puts you to work.” — Stephen (41:06)
• Even Lazarus, once resurrected, was expected to return to daily work.

10. Application & Assurance: Faith, Not Sensation

• (43:04–44:31) “The sensation of what you feel in your body has nothing to do with faith.” — Stephen (43:10)
• Challenge to internalize the Word and stand ready for a single moment of prayer — not looking for repeated or progressive feelings, but a single, decisive act of faith.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Healing by Faith, Not Feeling:
  “If you start going by feeling, it won't be long before you feel bad again. But faith people gotta stand up and say, it don't matter what I feel. It only matters what I believe. And I believe that I'm healed.” — Stephen (02:16)

• On Resisting Doubt:
  “So what’s he got to do? He’s got to resist the urge to speak doubt and unbelief. He’s got to resist that urge, because he’s got time now... what you gotta do? You gotta resist to receive.” — Stephen (09:33)

• On Provision and ‘Seepage’:
  “Anytime provision is removed, it is seeped back into your bag... Every time you reach inside that bag to remove something that seepage is happening in your life.” — Stephen (20:49)

• On Acting Amid Discomfort:
  “Sickness must be put into a place of discomfort, even at the expense of your own discomfort... because the Bible says you need to do something besides just laying there.” — Stephen (22:07)

• On Standing Firm:
  “Resisting rewrites your destiny.” — Stephen (26:57) “I don’t go up and get born again because I don’t feel born again... It’s the same thing with healing. At that moment, there was a covenant made. You have to stand on that time.” — Stephen (30:08)

• Bernie Sanders Comic Relief:
  “I got old. I'll be like, Bernie Sanders, I am once again asking for your financial support.” — Stephen (26:20)

• Application—Closing Encouragement:
  “All those people had to resist something to receive something. So I encourage you today, as the week goes on, meditate on what I’ve said. Correct your life now from what I’ve said. Apply the word, what I told you today. Get ready for it. Because healing belongs to you.” — Stephen (43:52)

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

• Faith vs. Feeling, Receiving by Belief: 02:15–05:03
• Resisting Doubt—Nobleman’s Journey (John 4): 06:01–13:58
• Called to Act; Examples from Healing Lines: 14:12–16:28
• The Principle of Seepage & Provision: 16:38–21:33
• Aggressive Resistance Brings Healing: 21:55–24:06
• Resisting Rewrites Your Destiny: 26:57–27:07
• Point of Contact & One-Time Faith: 27:07–30:58
• The Blind Man (John 9), Healing through Obedience: 31:56–36:49
• Healing Not for the Lazy—Expectation of Work: 38:51–41:33
• The Sensation of Healing vs. The Reality of Faith: 43:04–44:31

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Tone & Style

Stephen’s delivery mixes scriptural teaching, personal stories, humor (including playful ribbing about women and snacks), and practical faith challenges. The atmosphere is casual, energetic, direct, and at times, lighthearted, but always with an underpinning of scriptural seriousness and urgency regarding the promises of God.

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Actionable Takeaways & Application

• Prepare your mind and faith before prayer—receive the Word beforehand.
• Refuse to base your faith or healing on whether you feel different.
• Resist doubt, comfort, and idleness; act promptly on what the Word says.
• Stand on a single moment of faith; avoid “double-mindedness” by seeking repeated confirmations.
• Healing is for those ready to get up and move forward—not for staying idle.

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Listeners are left with the assurance:
“Healing belongs to you. It is a biblical promise that you will walk away from here healed.” — Stephen (44:31)

End on encouragement and expectancy for the rest of the crusade week.

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Transcript

[Nancy Dufresne]

Hi, I'm Nancy Dufresne. Welcome to our podcast channel. We know you'll be blessed by today's message.

[Stephen]

Praise God. Praise God. I'm excited to be here with you guys. And this is a Jesus the Healer convention, or what is this thing called? A crusade? It's a crusade for Jesus the healer. So should we be getting some healing at a healing crusade? Should we be getting some revelation on healing at a healing crusade? How about some miracles we've never seen before? Come on, now, let's try again. How about some healings we've never seen before? That's right. I said this in Florida, and I said, I'm leaving here with something, and I've been a victim of it, too. Or maybe not a victim, but a person that has done it myself, where we've left with nothing. Have we done that before? We come to church and just forgot.

[Cody]

About everything we just heard?

[Stephen]

I've done it. But this week, since I'm preaching, y' all gonna be listening, right? And we gonna leave with something. Is that right? That's important. You know, we just had Mother's Day.

[Cody]

It's such an important day, because a mother can't be a mother without a man.

[Stephen]

And so really, Mother's Day, the feminists love me, man. They just love me to death, you know? But Mother's Day is so important because.

[Cody]

You can't be a mother without a man.

[Stephen]

And, well, women go, well, what about Father's Day? Men don't care about that day. We don't care. Right? Let's just get rid of it. So it's just so. It's so funny.

[Cody]

I was thinking about that, and there was a woman, and we were talking about it, and she was getting all worked up, and she's like, man, the feminists just love you. I said, man, they really love me a lot. I mean, they always show them back up.

[Stephen]

But today is a very special day.

[Cody]

Because it's Memorial Day. Is that right? And what a precious day. And for all the service members around the world, we're so grateful for everything that they do. So praise God for that.

[Stephen]

So this week, let's say something.

[Cody]

How about this?

[Stephen]

Let's say this. This week, I am receiving the knowledge to receive my healing and keep my healing. I am leaving here completely healed, even if I don't feel healed, because I don't go by feeling, I go by faith. Therefore, I am healed. And I have been made whole in Jesus name. Because when you start going by feeling, it won't be long before you Feel bad again. So if we go by that, it ain't going to be just a short time. We'll be back feeling bad. But faith, people got to stand up and say, it don't matter what I feel. It only matters what I believe. And I believe that I'm healed. It's so funny is.

[Cody]

What was it just a short time ago, the Lord said, I want you to lay hands on down syndrome. I mean, I never really thought about it in my life. I mean, for that. And I said, I could do that. I mean, all these people, all these kids start coming forward with that stuff. And I believe that it's reversible because.

[Stephen]

The Bible says it is. Kids with autism, same thing, fixable, you say, well, they're missing some stuff. Well, if it's missing, what can God do? He can put it back. He can put it back. So I'm the person where I can work manual labor. I have no problem.

[Cody]

I like to work.

[Stephen]

So if this don't work out for.

[Cody]

Me.

[Stephen]

I can work anywhere. So for me, I don't have nothing to lose. I'm not trying to make something of myself. I'm just here to be a blessing. And so for me, when he says, will you lay hands on those kids?

[Cody]

I say, yeah, I can do that. And believe it.

[Stephen]

I believe.

[Cody]

I was at the Florida church a couple weeks ago, and a man came up to me and he said, there was a man in his church from Nigeria and he said he was down syndrome. And who was it? Lester Sumrall or somebody came and he.

[Stephen]

Got hold of T.L.

[Cody]

Osborne'S book, and he read it front to back being down syndrome. And he read it so much, he memorized it. And he said, over the years, as he grew up, his face started to shift and change. And today he is no longer down syndrome. He completely changed.

[Stephen]

His face changed. And you can't tell me it's not possible. I believe that not just. We can believe for fevers and things like that, but why not believe for things that they tell us are not possible? It just cannot be changed. Sickness is an evil spirit. And when you know that, because Jesus spoke to it as an evil spirit, and when you see it as an evil spirit, that means you can talk to it. And when you can talk to it, you can cast it out. And so this week with me, you guys are going to get some of that. But today, I want to minister on.

[Cody]

Y' all ready to write something down?

[Stephen]

I want to minister on. Resisting gets you into receiving. Resisting gets you into receiving. You say well, that's reversed. I get that.

[Cody]

That's the point. I'm trying to get your attention, but.

[Stephen]

Resisting gets you into receiving. Y' all got your Bibles there.

[Cody]

Okay, let's go to John 4. 46. And here is a nobleman.

[Stephen]

And one thing I do when I read the scripture is they've compressed so.

[Cody]

Much into a tight section, they leave out all the workings of the situation.

[Stephen]

Because the Bible says that there was so much going on that they couldn't.

[Cody]

Even write it down.

[Stephen]

Well, we know if they writing on.

[Cody]

Some kind of.

[Stephen]

Stone tablet or something, they trying to write all this junk down. And Jesus healing this and healing this. Well, they don't have time to write all this stuff down, so they just washed it.

[Cody]

Oh, forget it. We'll just remember 28 of them and just call it a day.

[Stephen]

You know what I mean? That's what we got out of the whole thing. They don't even. And then they tell us the same one over and over in different scripts. You didn't give us nothing else. Y' all don't remember nothing else but just a couple? They said there was so many, we couldn't even keep track of them.

[Cody]

And we just got a couple, which is fine.

[Stephen]

I'll take that. But it's just funny to think about, right? But here, I want us to read this because this is so important. When you walk through the scripture in.

[Cody]

Your imagination, it's amazing what you can see in the process. Okay? Because we can really run through this. But I just want to take our time.

[Stephen]

Can you guys use your imagination just for a little bit with me and just walk through this little scripture here?

[Cody]

Okay, so it says here, and let's go down to 47. And when he heard that Jesus had come, he went to him and. And implored him to come down to his son, for he was at the point of what, death.

[Stephen]

And when Jesus said this.

[Cody]

And then he gets on top of him 29. And the nobleman said to him, sir, come down before my child dies. And Jesus said to him, go your way.

[Stephen]

You're what he lives. So this is the next major part of this. It says here, and it says. So the man believed what, that Jesus spoke to him and he went his way. So this travel, what I looked up.

[Cody]

Was about 25 miles.

[Stephen]

So when you walk in 25 miles, how many of you. If you got a letter that said, your son is at the brink of death, and you had to walk 25 miles, what's your mind going to be.

[Cody]

On for 25 miles?

[Stephen]

Everything bad, everything wrong. Thinking about, where are we going to bury this kid? Is he going to get better? Is he not going to get better? So we have 25 miles of walking to think about what is going to happen. How many of us have built some scenario in our head about everything worse, everything better. We've gone through everything to develop, but this man, it says that he believed the words that he heard and then he went his what? He went his way. So that means every step the devil's beating on his mind. Think about this.

[Cody]

Your son's not going to live. You have no people to take, your properties, your inheritance, nothing.

[Stephen]

So this man's walking 25 miles, and it's probably most of the way he.

[Cody]

Had to stop for a night.

[Stephen]

Think about that. What if you had to deal with.

[Cody]

This your whole night and say, I wonder if tomorrow, what kind of sleep you gonna get because you thinking.

[Stephen]

Because he left and he was at the brink of death. So he goes here and Jesus says, go your way. So what's he got to stand on? The words that who said that? Jesus said amongst everything without knowing what was going to happen. So what's he got to do? He's got to resist the urge to speak, doubt and unbelief. He's got to resist that urge because he's got time now. He's got time when nobody, Jesus ain't around no more. He's sitting by the campfire by himself. It's too dangerous to walk around at night sitting by the fire. What you got to think about, what you got to do.

[Cody]

You got to resist to receive.

[Stephen]

So he's sitting, he's walking hours and hours and hours.

[Cody]

And this thing's tapping on the side of his mind. He's going to die. He's already dead. He's already dead.

[Stephen]

And we know that he goes through. But it says here that he believed the words that Jesus spoke to him. It doesn't say he fell out under the power of God. Don't worry about falling out under the power of God. Don't worry about failing. Fresh oil on top of your head. I'm sure that feels great. I ain't never felt that in my life. So don't go. When people say, man, I tell you what. I had fresh oil come on my head and it went down to my shoes. And, boy, I was healed. Forget all that. That's great. Some people can have that. What about the rest of us? That means I have to stand on something. I can't look for a feeling. I got to believe it. Whether I see it or not. So I got to resist to what? To receive. So that means this man has been at the campfire all night, been thinking about this thing. But he had to believe the words that Jesus said in the midst of uncertainty, because he had to keep that, what Jesus told him in front of him so he could receive what Jesus said. But what if he said, you know what? I don't believe that no more.

[Cody]

Who knows what would have happened?

[Stephen]

So he's walking the next day, and he sees from a distance. Well, we know you can see someone from quite a distance. And think about this. He sees somebody running. When you see someone running towards you, that's not a good thing. What does that mean? It's urgent. And you can't be there fast enough. Is that right? You can't be there fast enough. So this man is running and waving his hand, and what kind of thoughts are coming over him? What's he gotta say? He's gotta say, hey, he's tough. Told me so. This must be good news. Even though it's a feeling of hot sweat come upon you, it could be. Who knows what's coming? Have y' all ever had that and the phone broke up? What would you. Oh, gosh, what would you say to me? It's important, right? You gotta know now. And he sees this man running, and he cries out, says, just say what you're gonna say. You don't have to greet me. Just tell me. And he says, your son lives. And he said, from what hour? What hour did he live? And it was the same hour that he told him because he refused to give in and resist the thoughts that came to him. So it doesn't matter what you felt or didn't feel, as long as you resist the urge to doubt, you're going to receive. It's biblical. So this man had to resist the thoughts that came to him in this time, because we can read it, and it says he just went on his way. So we just think, hey, it's a quick deal. But it was actually quite a good amount of time. So we can see here. You got to resist to receive. Amen. So let's go to John 6:1.

[Cody]

We're in the neighborhood here. This is some good word for y' all today. One of the things growing up in church I saw.

[Stephen]

Is there.

[Cody]

Now, I'm not being judgmental, but I notice a pattern. And when people come up in a healing line, they make no effort to do anything. If they don't feel anything received.

[Stephen]

Because they're waiting For a feeling before they receive healing. I can't tell you how many times I've seen people in wheelchairs come up and they stand there, hands are laid on, and they stand there and turn a little knob and they out and they just go back. How come you don't try to get up? What you got to lose? You already crippled in the chair. Did you notice none of these people that. That Jesus laid hands on? I'm not saying they didn't, but it basically never says they fell out under the power of God. It never says that they felt some worn thing. They had to do something to get something. It says they would arise, they would do something. And it comes back to us. There's no effort put that people want to do. They don't want to do nothing. They don't want to try. This ain't Wally from, you know, the Robot. You're going to have to do something. You know, it's so good. So what I'm telling you is from growing up where I saw a big cutoff was they're looking to feel something.

[Cody]

Before they do something.

[Stephen]

And I'm telling you it's wrong because I can't find that in the Bible. The pool of Bethesda, he told him to arise. Well, what's the man got to do? He got to do something. He got to arise. But he doesn't say, I've been there for 30 years. What doing are you think I can't get up? I know that's stupid. Get up. So you got to at least try. The receiving is in the try. That's where your miracle happens. There's a sliver in there. There's a sliver in there from the word to manifestation. And you got to try. And at that moment of trying is where you receive. Amen. So here, I kind of got off on that.

[Cody]

That's another sermon. I'll save that for another time.

[Stephen]

It is good. Amen.

[Cody]

I like y', all, man. You'll help me.

[Stephen]

So we know here, what is this?

[Cody]

This is the feeding, the 5,000. Okay, so we know here that he's feeding them. And so let's go down the verse nine. So this is John 6, 9. And there was a lad that had five barleys and two small fish. Let me tell you something. There's this young kid that's got some fish and a couple bread pieces.

[Stephen]

But women, y' all go, oh, my God, here he goes. Women got snacks. Women got snacks. And they've had snacks for thousands of years. But guess what? When they go we need some snacks.

[Cody]

The women go, I ain't got no snacks.

[Stephen]

They gonna tuck it away. They gonna lose their snacks. I know when my wife goes on a road trip, we got snacks for everything. We got beef sticks, gummies, waters. I mean, all kinds of snacks stuff. So don't tell me this is the only person in this whole get up that had something to eat. Is that true? But what the women didn't know, they could have been having a lot of good snacks if they would have given them up. But they eating little shrimp and a.

[Cody]

Little bit of bread.

[Stephen]

But I know with every fiber of my being there were some women there to have some snacks. So there was a lad there, a young man that's got. And he's willing to give up his snacks. And then here. But it says. And then the disciples started to say, but they said, but what are they amongst so many?

[Cody]

So that doubt set in.

[Stephen]

But what do you think they should have done? Be like, hey, he didn't tell me to get a lot of it.

[Cody]

He just told me to get something.

[Stephen]

So therefore I'm going to get something.

[Cody]

And bring it to him.

[Stephen]

Most of us say, but I come, but I've never gotten healed before, so.

[Cody]

What'S it actually going to be like for me to get healed? And that'll keep you sick. But what are they amongst so many? And Jesus said, make the people sit down now that there was much grass and et cetera. And then they set them down in 5,000, see, in groups of. There's a lot of people here. Them women, they had the snacks and.

[Stephen]

Jesus took the loaves. And when he had given thanks, he.

[Cody]

Distributed them to them and those that sat down.

[Stephen]

And it says that as what?

[Cody]

As much as they wanted.

[Stephen]

So that means as the disciples put their hand in there, they had to.

[Cody]

Get to a place that they believed. Every time they put their hand in there, something else came out. Something else came out of that bag.

[Stephen]

Because that's important part. So they had to resist that urge that it was going to dry up. Because they had to be in a place where the people were greater than what was in a bag. So therefore, they had to get to a place where every time they put their hand in there, they had to resist, resist that urge. There ain't gonna be nothing in there. There is gonna be something in there.

[Cody]

I got a new sermon that people. I mean, it's funny how people just love it. It's called Seepage. And people just. Man, they're just crazy for it. And I thought, my goodness, I Guess people like it. I'm not gonna preach on that here, but I'll save it for somewhere else. But boo.

[Stephen]

But because I wanted to preach on.

[Cody]

This, but it's a good sermon.

[Stephen]

But see, one thing that the Lord told me, I'll just give you a snippet. He had told me, he had talked to me about it because I know something about seepage. How many of you have a yard.

[Cody]

That has excess water in it?

[Stephen]

And you go dig a hole and you can shovel out that water in that hole.

[Cody]

But what's going to happen in a short time?

[Stephen]

It fills back up. Did you see it fill back up?

[Cody]

It just kind of filled back up, didn't it?

[Stephen]

It's just there. So he talked to me about seepage. That anytime provision is removed, it is.

[Cody]

Seeped back into your bag.

[Stephen]

It's called the bag of provision. And when you don't believe it'll seep back, then it won't. But you have to believe every time you reach inside that bag to remove something that seepage is happening in your life. I've seen it. What do you think a whale? Is it seepage through the ground? You don't see it, but it just naturally happens. You put that thing down there and assume it's going to flow. Did you see the water?

[Cody]

It's just there.

[Stephen]

And when you remove it, it just replenishes.

[Cody]

Anyways, that's a little preview to that sermon.

[Stephen]

So it is important for us to believe. Anytime we're believing something, there is a resisting of doubt that we have to put forward to receive our mirac. And sometimes the resisting can be very strict and very long to believe that we're going to get to the other side. So resisting gets you into receiving.

[Cody]

Amen.

[Stephen]

Sickness must be put into a place of discomfort, even at the expense of your own discomfort. I'm going to say that again.

[Cody]

Write that down if you can.

[Stephen]

Sickness must be put into a place of discomfort, even at the expense of your own discomfort. Most people like to be comfortable. We like to be comfortable. But sickness is an invasion in your body that must be put out aggressively. And sometimes it is through something that is very uncomfortable for you because the Bible says you need to do something besides just laying there.

[Cody]

There was a woman, which we don't have much. Now, I'm not saying women, but I'm saying she had, let me say it right, Tuberculosis. Did I say it right? Because my dad, he said it wrong. So long it jacked me up.

[Stephen]

He said tuberculosius, and now I really have to struggle. I gotta really work to say it right.

[Cody]

What time is it?

[Stephen]

But this woman, she read in the Bible that she was healed under the power of God without feeling anything. And she told. I mean, she's a churchgoer, her mom's a churchgoer. And she had saw that for the.

[Cody]

First time after all these years. And she read that she's literally throwing up everything, just everything bad. She's in bed, she's dying. And she said, the Bible says a well person should be up.

[Stephen]

And so she got up and her.

[Cody]

Mother said, honey, you can't get up. I know what that's telling you, but I'm telling you, you can't do it. She said, give me my clothes. And this woman laid on the floor putting her clothes on in a place that she physically couldn't.

[Stephen]

But she believed that the words this called discomfort. And so she had to get ready for the day. The short of it is, she got up, she put her clothes on and believed that that was going to be.

[Cody]

Manifested in her life.

[Stephen]

No warm oil, no feeling of just hardship. And so she put on her clothes and headed out the door with her mom telling her, you can't do this. You're going to die. She's already dying. She said, I'm getting out. And by the time she got to the mailbox, she was completely healed. One of the things I've grown up seeing is people want to see a feeling before they receive healing. Forget it, because I'm about to mess up your world. If you go by that, you will never be healed because it won't be a short time. In 10 minutes, something else will show up. And you think, I must not be healed no more. Healing is a property that must be occupied by the believer. And when you have property, it must be maintained. And you got to stand on it to say, this is my property. When you ain't home, squatters show up. And it takes some aggression, some aggression to get your property back. So don't let your body tell you how you feel. You tell it. Mom said that sumrall hit his chest last night. Did y' all hear that? Bam. Hit him in the cell. I ain't done with you yet. Didn't feel healed. Hit himself in the chest and went back to work. There you go, dad. Hagin slid off the edge of the bed, feeling like he's gonna die. And he held onto the bedpost. Let him go. Ate the varnish off. Didn't feel healed, didn't feel hot. Warm oil fell on the floor. Got up Completely healed. I'm just saying there's something to it. So healing is not a feeling. It's a promise that God told us. You are healed. So this week, as my mom comes up and calls healing, healing must be stood on. Whether you feel it or not. Don't go by feeling. I'm telling you, I've been in church a long time. I'm 40 now. It went quick. I got old. I'll be like, bernie Sanders, I am once again asking for your financial support.

[Cody]

You know, feel like.

[Stephen]

Feel like an old man. You know, Bernie, he come up.

[Cody]

I'm once again asking for your financial support.

[Stephen]

Not that old yet. I got gray in my beard.

[Cody]

I got gray in my hair. I go, my God, Stephen, what happened? He got old.

[Stephen]

Got old real quick.

[Cody]

And y' all are, like, way older than me.

[Stephen]

And, like, what is he talking about? He's a young man. Yeah, I know what you talking about, you guys, what are you talking about?

[Cody]

Yeah, but where were we?

[Stephen]

We were talking about healing. Y' all got me all messed up on Bernie Sanders.

[Cody]

Write this down.

[Stephen]

You ready? Resisting rewrite your destiny. Resisting rewrite your destiny.

[Cody]

I can't tell you how many times I've been in healing lines with my dad right next to him. And my dad will lay hands on him. I mean, my dad had a healing anointing, and he'd lay hands on them, and he would tell them to do something they couldn't do. And they just kind of half effort, you know, okay, I'll try this, I'll try that. And I thought, my God, you must enjoy being sick. Because if it was me, I would hang to that and say, this is my time. I remember I was dealing with something and that was consistently giving me a hard time. And one thing that you have to be careful of is getting re certed into the healing line. Let me explain. I was dealing with something and Brother Ike, you guys know Brother Ike. Brother Ike was at the church and he called out something by the word of knowledge. I went up there and didn't feel a thing. He called it. And I said, I believe when Brother Ike laid hands on me, I received it. And you know, I didn't feel nothing.

[Stephen]

But you know what I did?

[Cody]

I stood on that moment when Brother Ike laid hands on me that I was healed. And you know, there was people after that that called up that same thing.

[Stephen]

And you know what?

[Cody]

I never went up again because I believed I was healed at that time.

[Stephen]

When you dismiss that point of contact, you dismiss the healing process you did during that time. And you say, well, let's try again with somebody more powerful. Let's try again.

[Cody]

What was wrong with the first time?

[Stephen]

The Bible says, lay hands on the sick. What are they going to do? Well, recover. So why. Why do you dismiss that time and come back up a second time for the same thing? I'm not against healing wives. I'm for them. But you have to, at some point, make a connection. And until you make that connection, it ain't gonna happen. The man said he believed the words that were spoken and left Jesus altered what he had in plan. He said, you have to come to my house.

[Cody]

And Jesus said, I ain't coming to your house.

[Stephen]

So what did the man have to do? He had to readjust his thinking. Because for 25 miles, if I can.

[Cody]

Have him come to my house, if I can have him come. He said, I ain't coming. I'm too busy. But what I'm going to do, I'm going to send my work. He said, okay, I believe that.

[Stephen]

So you have to connect when hands are laid on you, whether it's your pastor, Pastor Nancy, whoever, that's it. Whether you fail at it or not, that's your point of contact, and you stand on that. I don't go up and get born again because I don't feel born again. Is that right? Some days I don't feel like being married either. And I don't want to be married. But you know what? At the end of the day, I am married whether I feel like it or not. Is that true? Y' all know what I'm talking about, man. You get. I'm telling you what, you gotta watch them women, man. They'll knock you smooth out, man. Maybe they'll share the smoke snacks with me later. I don't know. You don't get no snacks, man. So you got to stand on that word and believe it. That I am healed. That whether you feel married or not, man, you can't. I'm. I can't tell how many times I've wanted to be not married for just a little bit. I'mma dump her off back in Florida and I'm going home. But whether. Yeah, she says the same. So whether I feel like it or not, that moment that we took that covenant together still is intact. It's the same thing with healing. You have to. At that moment, there was a covenant made. You have to stand on that time. We ain't gonna try again. You gotta stand on it. I'm healed. I'm healed. I'm healed. Whether I feel like it or not, I believe I'm healed from the top of my head to the soles of my feet. Hey, Tony, I need something. Hey, Let me hear just a little something. Hey, you got it. It helps you receive better when you hear a little bit of that organ. Hey, yeah. Receive our healing this week, right now. Dead. So resisting. Rewrite your destiny. You guys believe that? So let's go to John, man.

[Cody]

We just in the neighborhood. John 9:1. Just stay there, Tony.

[Stephen]

Told you we was gonna have fun. Is it fun? You get a little soundtrack music like Darth Vader in here. We got some good preaching, man. Y' all be out here before soon. But y' all leaving power packed. Y' all leaving with something. The thing is here, we leaving with something. If I'm going to Disneyland, I'm leaving with something. I'm getting some bunny, some ears, some churros, some funnel cakes. Isn't that right? I ain't going there not getting nothing. I want a nice ride. I want to. I want some drinks.

[Cody]

We leaving here with something.

[Stephen]

If some of you come at a great expense, why you going to leave with nothing? Leave with what you came for. Leave with what you came for. Look at your neighbor and say, leave.

[Cody]

With what you came for. Amen.

[Stephen]

So this man. So here is the blind.

[Cody]

So we we in John.

[Stephen]

And as Jesus passed by, he saw.

[Cody]

A man who had been blind.

[Stephen]

From what has he ever seen in his life? Okay. And his disciples asked him, rabbi, so.

[Cody]

Let'S go down to verse six. When he had said these things, he spat on the ground and made clay with the saliva. And he anointed the eyes of the blind man with clay.

[Stephen]

And he said to him, go wash. Go wash. Now, how come the other guy gets his sight immediately? How come I got to walk around blind? I'm already blind. So some people get into some quick stuff. And you want me now you put dirt in my eyes? Put saliva. Did it say that he fell out under the anointing? Did he feel anything? He just felt some dirt in his eyes. And then he sends a blind man to go do something a blind man shouldn't be doing. Playing around water and walking down the street. Is it true? We don't want a blind man on the edge of a dock. So you can see what Jesus is doing here. Making a point. He spat on the ground and he made clay. And he said, go wash in the pool. Which is translated, so what did he do? And he went, now let's break it down. Let's use your Imagination. Okay. We walking.

[Cody]

Hey, Timmy.

[Stephen]

Hey. Hey. He's walking. He going like this. And the buggies and carts are moving every day. And he walking down the road like that, walking. What do you think he's thinking about? How come? He could have just healed me right back there. But what's he got to do? He could have got halfway down there and said, you know what?

[Cody]

This is foolishness. Forget it.

[Stephen]

But what's he need to do? He's got to resist the urge to quit. To what? To receive. So he's got dirt in his eyes. Y' all like dirt in your eyes? Me neither. And he's walking down, and there's the. I'm assuming the roads change every day there. There's buggies, people laying out dogs, cattle. And this man walking down the thing thinking about, what in the world is going on here? Is this not the craziest thing? And so this man, he goes. And then he walks down the pool.

[Cody]

And rubs the dirt out of his eyes. And he sees. Because he resisted the urge to quit on the way there. He resisted the urge. He didn't feel anything.

[Stephen]

Not only did he not feel anything, it got a little bit harder for him. Go wash in the pool. So this man did not get his miracle right away, but he resisted the.

[Cody]

Urge to quit because he ain't got nothing to lose. I'm almost done. He had nothing to lose.

[Stephen]

So it. So what I'm telling you is don't give up. This week, when hands are laid on you, whether you feel something or not, you have to walk in it and resist the urge to give up. You don't got nothing to lose. You was already getting. You ain't got nothing to lose. Like Pastor Cody said, you go to the doctors. Another 1500, please. Another 1500, please. Checkbook, please. And then they just give you a neutral deal?

[Cody]

We don't know, but you should come back.

[Stephen]

You think they don't make money on healing people? They get money on recurring customers. They gonna tell you the truth, you'd be better off going to the vet. Them dogs getting better? In some of them, I mean. Boy, they give them horse pills, bam, they straighten up, boy, we're good to go. You go to the hospital, boy, they got you drugged up. They got you all putting my bees, man, they mess you up. I'm just saying, I'm not against hospitals and stuff, but sometimes I wonder if they're on my side. I think we all wonder that. Are you willing to stop eating so much and get better? Are you willing to cut out Some.

[Nancy Dufresne]

Of the food.

[Stephen]

You gotta resist to receive. Isn't that right? You gotta resist them donuts because my healing's associated. Don't eat that donut. You want to lose weight, you gotta resist some things. That right?

[Cody]

That's it. I would say I'm just throwing this out there. I'm looking at the ceiling.

[Stephen]

I would say probably 70% of the.

[Cody]

People we lay hands on. It's a weight related issue. I'm just throwing it out there for.

[Stephen]

Y' all to thank them.

[Cody]

I'm just saying. I'm just saying it's food for thought. I look at myself when I say that. You know, maybe I'm fat too. Maybe I got problems too. I like snacks as much as the next person.

[Stephen]

Them women love snacks.

[Cody]

I mean, I like snacks too.

[Stephen]

I like chips and Slim Jims and all them other things. Butterfingers. Y' all like Butterfingers? Yeah, we like Butterfingers. But you know, sometimes we gotta resist.

[Cody]

You're like, all right, Steven, just keep rolling on here.

[Stephen]

Okay, I'm gonna keep going here.

[Cody]

Alright, write this down. You ready?

[Stephen]

Healing is not for the lazy. Healing is not for the lazy. You don't get healed, so you cannot do nothing. Let's take Lazarus. He's been dead in the grave.

[Cody]

I'm almost done.

[Stephen]

He's dead in the grave. They put the tomb in front of it, wrapped him up, everything. He stinketh. That's what they said. He's in a house full of women. Like man.

[Cody]

Brother Stephen.

[Stephen]

Why you always fighting women? I'm not. I love women. I work for a woman. I married a woman. So don't think I'm against women. It's a ministry ran by women, so chill. Calm down. I'm just. Let me bark a little bit, okay, Pastor Debbie? I mean, your churches are full of women. She's. She likes my humor. I think she gets it because Pastor Johnny don't play around.

[Cody]

He play around. What was I talking about?

[Stephen]

Women. Yeah. Thank you. So Lazarus, he says, lazarus, you need to come forth. So Lazarus comes forth, they give him something to eat or drink. Jesus leaves. What do you think them women going to tell him? Hey, guess what? Since you feeling better, you need to get back to work. What do you think? He going to sit on the couch? Woman, I died. Don't worry about me. I'm good. Now you get back to work. So if you think healing's going to put you on a couch and get to watch Storage Wars, I'm sorry, it ain't for you. So it means that when Healing comes. You better be ready to get to work. If you've ever read Proverbs, it says a little sleep, a little slumber poverty. So it matters what you do with your healing. Some of y' all need to go look for a job before you can actually physically do a job. What you got to lose if you don't want to be go to work? I'm sorry. Sorry. Then healing is not for you. You. What do you think I'm doing now? I'm working. I'm here doing what God told us to do, so we do it. So healing is not for the lazy.

[Cody]

Write this down.

[Stephen]

Healing takes you out of idleness and puts you to work. Because sickness puts you in an idle state. It puts you in an idle state where you can't do much.

[Cody]

Oh, my back hurts.

[Stephen]

This hurts. This is. How about you try to break that line, get out of that routine. Sickness has a routine to keep you bound down. I'm not gonna get all that today. But what I'm telling you is I'm.

[Cody]

Wrapping up.

[Stephen]

Is you gotta be willing to go to work. You gotta look forward to waking up every day and going to work. Manual labor, no problem. Asphalt, no problem. Cooking in the kitchen, no problem. Taking the kids at school. I could do that, too. It's no problem because I'm healed. What do you think the bland man did after he did? You think he went and sat on the porch and just looked at everybody? He did that for the first day. But you got to make some money now because you can't beg no more. What you got to do, you going to work. He only put you to work. And if you ain't willing to work, then I'm sorry, don't even come up here. I'm ready to go to work. Boy, I could do anything. I'd lay brick, concrete, drywall. I hate drywall. But I'll do it. I could do carpet work on cars.

[Cody]

What else? Everything.

[Stephen]

Build stuff. Man, I do anything. I like to work. I made up my mind.

[Cody]

I like to work. What are you talking about, Steven, man, you just going off.

[Stephen]

I'm telling you, be willing to do something because that's what breaks that barrier of sickness. It gets you out of the bed, it gets you out of the chair. And you have to defy it every moment. You have to defy sickness, and you, your life defy it by not giving up every step. I'm healed. I'm healed. I'm healed. I'm healed. This week is your receiving week, whether you know it or not.

[Cody]

I'm closing this thing up right now. Let me read one. Let me see. Write this down, if you can.

[Stephen]

The sensation of what you feel in.

[Cody]

Your body has nothing to do with faith.

[Stephen]

The sensation of what you feel in your body has nothing to do with faith.

[Cody]

I'm closing it.

[Stephen]

I told you I would. So what I want you guys to know today, when Pastor Nancy is up here ministering to the sick, get as much word inside of you as you.

[Cody]

Can before Thursday night.

[Stephen]

Don't run up here today. I want you guys to get it inside of you. Because when that moment happens and when Pastor Nancy lays hands on you for healing, that's it. For whatever you came up here for. That's it. Look at your neighbor and say, that's it. Because I'm telling you, if you start letting go, it slips away from you. We'll get them next time.

[Cody]

No, don't get them next time.

[Stephen]

Get them this time. So it's so important that we don't give up on our healing, whether we feel it or not. So we got to resist the urge to receive. All those people had to resist something to receive something. So I encourage you today, as the week goes on, meditate on what I've said. Correct your life now from what I've said. Apply the word, what I told you today. Get ready for it. Because healing belongs to you. It is a biblical promise that you will walk away from here, heal.

[Cody]

Amen.

[Stephen]

Glory to God.

[Cody]

I'm going to go up here. The camera guys follow me. I know they. Sometimes they lock that camera up and they can't follow me. I want to talk to the camera real quick.

[Stephen]

People watching. I want you to know that the power of God is working in your body. I know you can't be here, but I want to pray with you and what you've heard. Today is your receiving day. You could be sitting in an office chair, a lounge chair in your car, listening and not watching. That's all good. But I want to pray with you that today that you're healed. And if you believe what I've been saying, you're going to receive. So, Father, in the name of Jesus, I say from the top of your head to the soles of your feet, I command your body to be healed. And from this moment forward, you are healed. In Jesus, mighty name, receive it in your body. Say, I receive it. I believe it, and that's it. So praise God. Have you been blessed today? Well, I'll be back on Thursday.

[Cody]

Is that right? Oh, Wednesday. Excuse me. I'll be back Wednesday, and we'll have some more fun.

[Stephen]

I told you it wasn't long. It's only. It's just 1105. That's pretty good, right? Pastor Cody went way longer than I did, so I want you guys to know I appreciate you guys. I love you guys. I'm sticking with you. I'll pray for you. It don't matter, man. Whatever you got, we'll pray for you. But I want you to know, you got to get the word inside of you. Don't look for a feeling. Don't look. Well, if I can just have this.

[Cody]

Touch me.

[Stephen]

If I could just have that look. I'm telling you, got to walk in this. When we're gone, we're leaving, so you got to walk in it. So I'm teaching you how to walk in it. All right? Amen.

[Cody]

Amen.

[Nancy Dufresne]

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