Podcast Summary: "The Tangible Anointing"

Host: Dufresne Ministries | Speaker: Pastor Nancy Dufresne
Event: Campmeeting 2021 – Thursday PM
Release Date: June 11, 2021

Episode Overview

This episode features Pastor Nancy Dufresne teaching on "The Tangible Anointing"—an exploration of the biblical, practical, and experiential realities of ministering in the power of the Holy Spirit. The focus is on understanding the difference between the anointing within and upon, recognizing spiritual tangibility, and skillfully cooperating with the anointing for more fruitful ministry. Drawing from scripture, personal testimony, and the wisdom of seasoned ministers, Pastor Nancy encourages both ministers and laypeople to grow in discernment, stewardship, and faith regarding the anointing.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Nature of the Anointing

Timestamps: 00:51–06:30

• Referencing Acts 10:38: Jesus was anointed with the Holy Ghost and power to do good, specifically healing the oppressed.
• The anointing within: Given to every believer, enables holy living; does not increase, but its effectiveness can as one yields more.
• The anointing upon: Comes especially on those in ministry offices, empowers them to minister to others; this anointing can increase.

“Every single believer has the anointing within… But the anointing that comes upon can be increased.”
—Nancy Dufresne (03:45)

2. The Tangibility & Transfer of the Anointing

Timestamps: 06:31–13:30

• Acts 19:11–12: Paul’s hands transferred the anointing into cloths, which healed the sick and drove out evil spirits—the “tangible anointing.”
• The anointing can act as a “storage battery.”
• Tangibility isn’t always physically felt, but sometimes it is—a physical sensation can accompany the anointing, though what matters is the results, not mere feelings.

"It's not what you feel that matters, it's what's produced that matters."
—Nancy Dufresne (11:45)

3. Personal Experiences with Tangible Anointing

Timestamps: 13:31–24:55

• Pastor Nancy describes her own journey: how the anointing sometimes feels like warmth, numbness, or weightiness in her body and hand.
• Anecdotes about Ed Dufresne and his right hand anointing, including the importance of ministering with the correct hand when the anointing is specific.
• Recognizing patterns and learning to "connect the dots" between sensation, instruction, and flow in the Spirit; encourages journaling these experiences.

“I started learning that when there were certain types of manifestations, there would be a certain flow connection to it… Connect the dots, pay attention.”
—Nancy Dufresne (17:50)

4. The Role of Faith, Skill, and Receiving

Timestamps: 24:56–37:30

• Tangible anointing needs faith to be effective. Receiving requires active cooperation—just being in the atmosphere is not enough.
• Story: The woman with the issue of blood received because she drew on the anointing by faith (Mark 5).
• Laypeople must be taught to actively receive, just as ministers must be skillful in releasing the anointing.

“No matter how tangible the power is, it will not force itself… it won’t force itself into anyone’s need.”
—Nancy Dufresne (32:50)

5. Boundaries for Believers & Ministers

Timestamps: 37:31–47:00

• Laying on of hands: Biblically, believers only instructed for the sick. Do not imitate ministers outside your authority or leading.
• Spirit of counsel is not in every believer; counsel without the Spirit brings confusion.
• The ministry of laying on of hands includes impartation and blessing, but not every believer or even minister walks in this.

“Just because you see your pastor lay hands on people, that's not an invitation for you to do it…”
—Nancy Dufresne (41:22)

6. Teaching by Example & Dialogue

Timestamps: 47:01–55:00

• The importance of discussing spiritual things with those who have more experience; testimony of learning from conversations with other seasoned ministers, notably “Pastor J” and Richard Roberts.
• Sometimes the anointing is simply a confirmation of God's call, not always an immediate cue to minister.

7. Biblical Foundation & Impartation

Timestamps: 55:01–66:30

• Luke 4: Jesus openly declared his anointing so people could place faith in it.
• Romans 1:11 shows impartation by laying on of hands is for spiritual establishment and acceleration.
• The ministry of laying on of hands is foundational (Hebrews 6), beyond just healing.
• Blessing and impartation extend beyond public ministry; parents and pastors can bless those under their authority.

8. Testimonies, Cautions, and Application Stories

Timestamps: 66:31–76:00

• Distinguishes between healings by tangible anointing (requiring faith) versus by the gifts of the Spirit (which don’t).
• Case studies: Story of T.L. Osborn’s airport healing, Richard Roberts’ public ministry, and comparison with Brother Hagin’s reserved operation.
• Don’t act solely on feeling the anointing—be led by the Spirit and context, recognizing God’s longing to heal but not overriding people’s faith or will.

9. Developing the Flow and Skill

Timestamps: 76:01–83:00

• Learning from other ministers' flows can yield better results and less physical strain; experimenting with administration style (e.g., word of knowledge vs. laying on of hands).
• Importance of knowing when the tangible anointing is for healing, impartation, prayer, or another purpose.

10. Generational Flow & Impartation to Ministers and Children

Timestamps: 83:01–88:30

• God connects generations in ministry; children of ministers are to honor and remain in the spiritual flow of their parents.
• The necessity for children to be exposed to the same spiritual flow for continuity.
• Ministry time: laying on of hands over ministers' children as an impartation for generational blessing and flow.

11. Prophetic Word and Ministerial Acceleration

Timestamps: 87:02–93:17

• Pastor Noel prophesies ("see, say, and see" era): a flow where ministers will increasingly see in their spirit, say what they see, and watch God perform the word.
• Impartation for a greater flow of seeing and knowing, leading to accelerated miracles and ministry effectiveness.

“The spirit of seeing and knowing will be in a greater flow… You will see it and you will speak; this is how the miracles will work in a greater way, in a greater measure.”
—Pastor Noel (92:39)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Don't try to conjure up thinking you feel something… it's really not what you feel that matters, it's what's produced that matters.” (11:45)
• “When the tangibility's in one hand, it matters which hand.” (14:40)
• “Laymen must cooperate with it… Laymen need to know how to receive.” (31:40)
• “The tangible anointing needs the faith of the person that is looking to receive.” (59:32)
• "Brother Norvel Hayes made this statement: So great is God's longing and desire to heal, that when in the presence of sickness, that anointing will just come into manifestation. Just because it's God's longing, it's not God's instruction." (83:00)
• "Are you helped in this?... That's all I know about that. Told you all I know about that. Amen." (76:00)

Important Timestamps & Segments

• 00:51 – Distinction between the anointing within and upon
• 06:31 – Acts 19, Paul’s tangible anointing transferred to cloths
• 11:45 – The balance between feeling and real spiritual effect
• 14:40 – Story about Ed Dufresne and ministering with the correct hand
• 32:50 – Necessity of faith for the anointing to work
• 41:22 – Proper boundaries for believers when laying on of hands
• 59:32 – Jesus teaching to declare the anointing for people to have faith in it
• 76:00 – Learning from connecting to the right ministry examples
• 83:01 – Generational impartation for ministers’ children
• 92:39 – Prophetic word: era of “saying and seeing” in the Spirit brings acceleration

Summary & Takeaways

• The tangible anointing is a biblical, practical reality for ministers and sometimes for certain tasks or seasons in a believer’s life.
• Recognize, honor, and cooperate with both the anointing within (for living) and the anointing upon (for ministering).
• Results are produced by faith and proper stewardship, not feelings or showmanship. Don’t overstep boundaries—operate within your authorization and the Spirit’s leading.
• Skill and fruitfulness in ministry require attentiveness, learning from experienced ministers, and willingness to grow.
• Receiving from the anointing is an active process, requiring faith and cooperation, especially among laypeople.
• Generational flow in ministry is vital—children are to continue in their parents’ spiritual flow, not seek novelty for its own sake.
• In this era, there’s an acceleration for those who see and say what God reveals in the Spirit.

Practical Encouragement:
Be a student of the tangible anointing: pay attention, seek wisdom, document your spiritual experiences, and remain teachable. Cultivate an attitude of faith, cooperation, and humility—always focusing attention on the Holy Spirit, not human vessels. Pursue growth both for yourself and your ministry community.