Podcast Summary
Podcast: Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Episode: Thursday PM | Nancy Dufresne | Paducah, KY | Miracle Crusade 2021
Date: May 26, 2021
Host/Speaker: Pastor Nancy Dufresne
Episode Overview
This episode, delivered by Pastor Nancy Dufresne at the 2021 Miracle Crusade in Paducah, KY, centers on the foundational principles of faith, healing, and the power of God's Word. Pastor Nancy teaches that hearing and embracing God's Word is the primary way believers receive faith and healing. She shares scriptural insights, personal stories, testimonies, and practical instructions, punctuated by memorable illustrative anecdotes and healing ministry moments.
The episode maintains a teaching and exhortative tone, emphasizing both the supernatural and practical aspects of living a life of faith.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. The Centrality of Words and Hearing
- Pastor Nancy begins by focusing on John 17:8, highlighting that Jesus said, “I have given unto them the words which Thou gavest me. And they have received them.”
- Quote (00:57):
"He didn’t say, ‘I’ve given unto them a mighty ministry.’ ... No, he says, ‘I gave them words.’ Because with words they can accomplish everything … Words are containers. They contain the power and the ability to perform and bring to pass what those words say." — Nancy Dufresne
- Quote (00:57):
- Emphasizes that everything received from God starts with hearing His Word. Words are the method by which God empowers believers.
- Illustrations: Cornelius (Acts 10:33) – God sent Peter to tell him words; the people came to hear and to be healed (Luke 5:15).
2. Divine Order: Hear and Be Healed
- The scriptural order is “hear, and be healed” — faith comes by hearing (Romans 10:17).
- Quote (17:10):
“I’m going to help you reach that desire by telling you the divine order is not healing, it’s hearing and healing… If this is God’s way for healing, it’s God’s way for anything you receive from God.”
- Quote (17:10):
- Many seek only the healing, but miss out because true receiving happens by hearing first.
- Practical Application: Increase hearing, don’t just throw scripture at a problem. Prioritize hearing the Word—faith follows.
3. Testimonies & Illustrations to Support Hearing
- Lillian B. Yeomans: Doctor addicted to morphine, healed by feeding on the Word, not by focusing on her need for healing, but by focusing on the Word (21:00).
- Rhema Healing School Attendee: Chose to “not die prematurely because I was ignorant.” She sought teaching rather than only being prayed for.
4. Other Methods of Healing & God’s Mercy
- God employs several methods but the most reliable and controllable is hearing the Word.
- Gifts of the Spirit are sovereign and cannot be controlled—unlike our ability to hear.
- Quote (25:18):
"God’s going to do what’s best for your faith. He’s not going to do what’s easiest for your flesh. He’s going to do what’s best for your faith."
5. Hearing as a Lifestyle
- Hearing must become a lifestyle, not just a reaction to a crisis.
- Compare feeding on the Word to being a “foodie”—variety, enjoyment, and continuality are emphasized (37:30).
- Quote (46:43, on moisturizing): > "Will it work if you start late? Sure, but it won’t look the same as if you started early. Be building, be building, hearing, value and honor the hearing."
6. Heart Issues: Hearing with the Spirit
- Proverbs 4:20-22: The Word must reach your heart; meditation drives it deep.
- The Word is not like medicine, it is medicine.
- Importance of hearing corrections and being teachable. Sometimes, healing is hindered by an unwillingness to correct areas God has spoken about (e.g., health habits, relationships).
7. Hearing and Correction
- Real hearing means doing—hearing correction is part of wholeness.
- God often deals with us in private corrections before public ones. If we won't hear, correction may come through a pastor or leader.
- Example: Woman who delayed obedience to lose weight and later became terminally ill; confessed the missed opportunity to heed God’s correction (47:00).
8. Guarding What and How You Hear
- Mark 4:23 (Amplified): “Be careful what you are hearing. The measure of thought and study you give to the truth you hear will be the measure of virtue and knowledge that comes back to you…” (61:56)
- Don’t run to every voice, teaching, or popular preacher—stay under the spiritual diet set by your own pastor for healthy faith development.
- Ignorance, not just the devil, is often the cause of destruction (Hosea 4:6).
9. The Flow of the Word and Spirit
- A strong flow of gifts and manifestations of the Spirit follows a strong foundation in the Word.
- Quote (127:30):
“God doesn’t want you to build your church on a flow of the gifts. He wants you to build it on the flow of the Word, because that is the author of everything good.”
- Quote (127:30):
10. Practical Ministry & Healing Demonstrations
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Through the last half of the meeting, Pastor Nancy and guest ministers lay hands on those with specific conditions: heart issues, metal implants, chronic pain, diabetes, joint and back issues, hearing, eyesight problems, and emotional/mental struggles.
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Corporate faith emphasized: the congregation is engaged to support one another as healing ministry takes place (82:00 onwards).
- Memorable Ministry Example (90:49):
[To a man with an amputation:] “God knows how to fix it. Father, we thank you for wholeness. We thank you, no pain. We thank you, Father.”
- Memorable Ministry Example (90:49):
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Instructions for those who receive prayer:
- Hold fast; continue to speak faith no matter what manifestation is present.
- Don’t constantly check for a change—keep giving thanks and praising God.
- Praising God and speaking the Word is how you displace wrong thoughts and sustain healing.
11. Dealing with Mental and Emotional Challenges
- For depression, fear, and anxiety:
- “You can’t get rid of thoughts with thoughts; you get rid of thoughts with words.” (93:00)
- Engage your mind with praise and declaration of the Word:
“My mind is sound. He’s given me a sound mind… Praise the Lord, praise the Lord…”
- Don’t get discouraged by lack of instant change; persistence in the Word and praise brings the breakthrough.
Memorable Quotes & Moments
- (On what Jesus left us – not a reputation or spectacle, but words) (01:10):
“I gave them words … because with words they can accomplish everything.”
- (On faith and healing) (15:04):
“Faith comes by what? Hearing and hearing by the Word of God. Anything we receive from God comes by hearing. Anything!”
- (On God’s methods) (25:18):
“He’s not going to do what’s easiest for your flesh. He’s going to do what’s best for your faith.”
- (On correction blocking healing) (47:00):
“She struggled with her faith because she know she did not listen. Anything God says matters.”
- (On mental and emotional breakthrough) (93:09):
"You can’t get rid of thoughts with thoughts; you get rid of thoughts with words."
Notable Timestamps
- 00:00–06:00 — Introduction, John 17, Jesus and the gift of words
- 10:00–17:00 — Principle of hearing before healing, examples from scripture
- 17:00–24:00 — Testimonies affirming the priority of hearing the Word for healing
- 25:00–30:00 — God’s faith-building strategy, “spiritual cripples,” and controlling your hearing
- 37:30–46:40 — “Word foodie” illustration; embracing a varied, continual intake of the Word
- 46:40–50:00 — The Word as medicine; building a lifestyle of hearing
- 55:00–61:00 — Importance of correcting and acting on God’s Words; hindrances to healing
- 61:54–65:00 — Dangers of wrong hearing; stick to your pastor’s diet, not just popular teachings
- 90:00–124:00 — Practical healing ministry to various needs (physical, mental, emotional)
- 127:30–End — Foundation for miracles is the Word; encouragements to continue in faith and praise
Conclusion
This episode is a deep, practical, and faith-building message on the power and necessity of hearing the Word for experiencing God’s best—particularly in healing. Rather than focusing only on outward miracles or gifts of the Spirit, Pastor Nancy repeatedly calls listeners to scriptural, heart-level hearing as the way to receive from God. Throughout, she combines biblical teaching, memorable metaphors, and real-world examples—culminating in a powerful healing ministry where many testify to immediate results.
For Listeners:
If you or someone you love is seeking healing, correction, or growth in faith, this message provides both scriptural foundation and practical steps. The order of divine receiving is simple but profound: hear and be healed. Anchor your life in the continual, heartfelt hearing of God’s Word, remain teachable, do what you hear, and you’ll remain in position for miracles—every time.