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Dufresne Ministries Podcast

Episode: Valuing What God Values | Debra Simons | Georgetown, TX | Wednesday PM | Miracle Crusade 2021
Date: December 3, 2021

Overview

This episode features Pastor Debra Simons delivering a passionate teaching at the 2021 Miracle Crusade in Georgetown, TX. Her message, “Valuing What God Values,” encourages believers—especially the next generation—to prioritize and highly esteem God’s assignments, honoring the people, places, and callings He provides. Through her personal stories, biblical exposition (primarily from 2 Kings 4 and 8), and practical exhortation, Pastor Simons explores the abundant blessing that comes from putting a premium on God's values, illustrated especially through the account of the Shunammite woman and Old Testament principles of honor.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Importance of Seeing What God Has for You (00:08–03:00)

• Pastor Simons reflects on her own journey, dealing with condemnation and gratefulness after salvation, and learning to be governed by what God reveals in His Word.
• She stresses the necessity of continually stirring up gratitude for what God has done.

"I had to see it so it would govern my life and I wouldn’t make the choices that would not bring me into the fullness of what God has in every season of my life." —Debra Simons (00:11)

2. Generational Shifts and Spiritual Participation (03:00–07:00)

• Simons humorously describes the shift from her generation’s "jump in" attitude to the more reserved “designated driver” generation, noting that engagement in the things of God is essential, not optional.
• Urges leaders to address each generation’s different mindset about spiritual things.

3. Commitment to God’s Assignments & Local Church (07:00–13:00)

• Shares her and her husband’s story of transitioning from a community church to a Word of Faith church and the revelation that God’s placement comes with great blessing.
• Highlights the importance of faithfulness: "If it pleased Him for us to be here, it would be displeasing to Him if we weren’t here." (10:35)
• Stresses the importance of training the next generation—not just relying on family heritage or osmosis.

4. The Value of Faithfulness and Exercising Faith (13:00–20:00)

• Continual emphasis that you "cannot outgive God" or out-serve Him; whatever is sown into God’s purposes is returned many-fold, if believers exercise their faith.
• Gives examples of people who lost spiritual opportunities by succumbing to worldly standards (e.g., leaving ministry roles over benefits or insurance).

"You can't outgive God. You cannot lay down your life for the things of God and then not get an overabundance return if you exercise your faith." —Debra Simons (15:38)

5. Biblical Example: The Shunammite Woman (2 Kings 4, 8) (20:00–40:00)

• Deep dive into the Shunammite’s recognition of Elisha as a “holy man of God” (2 Kings 4:9) and her practical hospitality as active honor.
• Simons points out the connection between recognizing/anointing and activating faith-filled behavior.
  • The woman’s initial motivation was honor; the blessing she received (a son, and later his resurrection) was God’s return for her esteem.
  • When crisis (her son’s death) came, she went straight to her point of connection—the prophet’s room, the place of honor—and made a faith demand for restoration (35:00).
• Explores the further blessing in 2 Kings 8: The Shunammite, due to her connection and obedience, receives advance warning about a famine and later supernatural restoration of all her property and profits.

"When you put a premium and put a value on what God wants you to put a value on, you find yourself at the right place at the right time." —Debra Simons (52:30)

6. Personal and Modern Parallels (40:00–55:00)

• Pastor Simons shares stories of her husband’s work ethic as spiritual discipline, and testimonies of God’s provision when they put His work first—even if it didn’t make rational sense.
• Cites an example where honoring and serving the church led to protection and supernatural return, as opposed to “real-world” investments that failed (ex: a friend who lost money by ignoring kingdom principles).

7. Attitude in Service: Heart and Joy Matter (55:00–58:00)

• The importance of joyful, heartfelt service over reluctant, perfunctory religious activity.
• Encourages believers not to judge their journey by worldly timelines or standards.

"Attitude is everything with God. When you’re gonna do something for God, listen, he’s looking at your heart. He’s looking at your attitude." —Debra Simons (54:40)

8. Generational Faithfulness and Testimony (58:00–65:00)

• Reminds listeners that many inheritances and blessings (health, family restoration, guidance) are accessed through consistent, generational honoring of God’s assignments, not just financial prosperity.

9. Supernatural Guidance, Honor, and Prophetic Rewards (65:00–70:00)

• The Shunammite is warned of famine, leaves at the right time, and receives retroactive restoration because she valued and acted on prophetic instruction.
• Honor is presented as a spiritual currency that grants access to the flow of God’s blessing and direction not available otherwise.

10. Impartation and the Flow of Honor (70:00–75:00)

• Ministry time: Prophetic words about acceleration, supernatural provision, and the honor cycle, especially towards those who honor the men and women of God.
• Emphasizes impartation—those in ministry are encouraged to come forward for prayer by laying on of hands for entering new phases and rooms of ministry.

"There’s some things that only honor can access. Those who honor me, I will honor." —Nancy Dufresne (70:28)

11. Living Above the Natural, Stepping into the “More” (75:00–81:00)

• Exhortation that believers are not limited to natural means or cultural patterns; embracing God's priorities leads to unique outcomes, miracles, and provision.
• Calls for correction and the setting aside of “weights” (not just obvious sin, but distractions and busyness) so that God’s greater purposes can be accessed.

"What was permissible in a previous season cannot always be carried over into a current season." —Nancy Dufresne (78:53)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Value and Return:

  "When we put a value on what God puts a value on, there’s going to be a return for us. That’s how he has set it up." —Debra Simons (20:16)

• On Investment:

  "The best place to invest your money is in the church." —Pastor Johnny Simons, via Debra Simons (53:10)

• On the Shunammite’s Blessing:

  "She got her life spared, she got her heart’s desire, she got crops… she didn’t lose a thing. You don’t lose with God. You gain." —Debra Simons (54:30)

• Instruction on Honor:

  "There's some things that only honor can access. Those who honor Me, I will honor." —Nancy Dufresne (70:28)

• Prophetic Promise:

  "Because of the honor that you have for the prophet, God said he'll give you that building. The same—the woman desired for her son that the dead things came to life because of her honor." —Pastor Noel (69:50)

Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:08–03:00 – Debra Simons’ introduction; personal testimony
• 07:00–13:00 – Journey to a faith-filled church; value of commitment
• 20:00–40:00 – Exposition on the Shunammite woman and the laws of honor
• 52:30–54:30 – The culmination of the Shunammite’s story; supernatural restitution
• 55:00–58:00 – Teaching: attitude in service
• 70:28–71:14 – Key moment on the flow of honor; prophetic impartation time
• 77:02–79:13 – Pastor Dennis' exhortation: setting aside weights for impartation and fresh dedication

Flow & Tone

• Pastor Simons is personal, relatable, and deeply earnest—often weaving humor and practical application with doctrinal depth.
• The atmosphere is charged with expectancy, encouragement, and the gravity of spiritual inheritance and honor.
• The concluding ministry time is marked by prophecy, singing, worship, and strong encouragement for those in leadership/ministry.

CONCLUSION

This episode compellingly delivers the message that valuing what God values—especially honor, faithfulness, and right priorities—unlocks abiding blessing, supernatural restoration, and generational impact. Through scriptural precedent, personal narrative, and a Spirit-led ministry time, listeners are challenged to audit and align their value system with God's and to step into the “more” He has for them by setting aside distractions, serving with joy, and honoring the ministries and purposes of God.

For further study and application:

• Review 2 Kings 4 and 8 (the story of the Shunammite woman)
• Reflect on your own “value system”: does it mirror God’s, or the world’s?
• Ask: Where might God be inviting you to take steps of honor or lay down “weights” in your current season?
• If serving or leading in ministry, set your faith for a new phase and be open to impartation.

“When we value things of the kingdom, our life is elevated to days of heaven on earth.” —Nancy Dufresne (58:04)