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Hi, I'm Nancy Dufresne. Welcome to our podcast channel. We know you'll be blessed by today's message. Praise God. Praise God. Praise God. Hallelujah. Well, I've come to help you this morning. I've come to give you the word this morning. You're going to get a revelation that I believe you've not heard before. I'm not putting myself up, but it's something that God showed me, and I believe it'll be a blessing to you. And you're going to walk in a different place that you've never been before. One thing you know, I always wanted to be a prosperity preacher because I don't like being poor and I don't like seeing other people poor. My dad used to go to so many churches that they struggled, and it was hard to see when the drywall is beat up and the baseboards are trashed and they got junky chairs and they're living paycheck to paycheck. And I never believed that was right. And it wasn't about being successful myself, but I knew that I didn't like seeing the body of Christ pour, and I kind of got tired of it, and it ticked me off because I never wanted to be part of that, you know, and it gets tired to be struggling a lot, you know, And I kind of always did that. And during COVID the Lord really put on my heart healing, and I really never. It was never my gig. Like, I didn't really phase towards that. But he said, you know, Stephen, the greatest prosperity that you can have is your health. And I said, you know what? That's right. So I am preaching prosperity because there's no amount of money when you're sick. There's nothing more you want than a healed body. And the physical realm says, this is what you can buy with this much money. And after that, there's nothing else we could do for you. So, therefore, I still am a prosperity preacher, and I'm so grateful for that. But really, I believe that these are what we call a miracle crusade, and we should expect some miracles. Is that right? And we are endeavoring to give you the words that you leave and you'll be changed forever. Not just that, but, you know, you ever heard names, like, they have all these names for these meetings, and they sound cool, but I'm like, but that's not what we're doing. The name is just a name. And I thought, you know what? I want these to be a miracle place. Well, when you believe it's a miracle, then we have to step into a place that is a miracle flow. Isn't that true? So that takes some faith. And it takes you putting your name on the line to believe those things. Because y' all want me to do it. What are you going to do, Stephen? And so. But I'm endeavoring because, let me say this, I don't care what people think about me. I really don't. Because I would prefer to be a hired hand. I prefer to do a labor's job, to be straight, a contractor. But God's got me here doing this. I like to work if I can work. If you see me at church, you think I'm like a homeless person because I just wear. If people walk by like, is that Brother Stephen? Yeah, that's me. But today I want to minister on something that the Lord gave me. And I believe it will transform your life. Write this down if you have. This is the title. Walking in Someone Else's Imagination. Walking in Somebody Else's Imagination. And this is. It's so funny, the Lord, how he talks to me. He shows me a phrase like that. And it's like there's around that opens to me and I can see it all in front of me. And so let me. Can y' all use your imagination? Now, imagination, we know, is maybe for children. And we kind of, you know, they believe they're superheroes. They believe that there's certain things. And we encourage imagination to an extent. Now, we know this. I want to take you back in time. Can you guys use your imagination for a minute? Now, we know the Oregon Trail. You ever heard of it? Now, we know this. This was a pretty hard get up here. So these people would leave from Kansas or something, and they got on a horse and buggy and they would travel to Oregon on this trail that took, you know how long this took? 4 to 6 months. 4 to 6 months. And imagine if there was someone on the trail and they went. You know what would be great is if there was something that we could fly in to get there really quick. But not just fly in, but watch some kind of movie reel or a picture show. But not just that, that it would go so fast that we would just get there in hours. And what would the people around them tell them? You need to shut up. But imagine that we could take all our belongings that are in this carriage and put them in that machine, that flying wagon, and we could go and sleep in this wagon as we go to our location. And it won't take just six months, but just maybe an hour. And 40 minutes, what are they going to tell them? You need to shut up. You're going to get everybody around here. And they just kept on about it. But did you know, today that's reality because somebody imagined that. That's a possibility. And that means that we are living in someone else's imagination. Because they believed that it was possible to do that when nobody else would. The Wright brothers believed that what they saw was a possibility. And they said that when they said. They said every scientist did not believe. When it was told that they flew for the first time, they said almost every scientist would not believe it. They wouldn't believe it. We know from the time of the trail all the way to when they were going into space was like 100 years. But we are living. We have cell phones in our pockets. How many of us went on road trips that the coolest thing we could ever imagine is we were able to watch TV going down the road in the back of the car. But it was something that we could only imagine because it wasn't possible. So therefore, we were counting raindrops going down the windshield, racing each other, Right? But you know, our kids don't ever have to imagine what that would be like. They're living in someone else's imagination. They never have to reimagine that. Remember we used to dream of that. I mean, that was just a reality that we could just. And now you can access the world from your pocket because someone believed that their imagination was possible. What they saw inside of them was possible. I want to say this phrase and I want you to take it with a grain of salt, but just listen to it. He says, oh, ye of little faith. And I've been looking through this. I'm not saying every place, but let's do this. Oh, ye of little imagination. Let's replace faith with the word imagination. And many times it says they could not believe. Well, what is believing? You have to live out of a place of imagination. Amen. So this morning we are going to talk about that. Okay, let's go to Luke 5:2. Luke 5:2. Luke 5:2. And it says here, we know that this is a story with the boats and the fish. And it says here in Luke 52, it says, and saw two boats standing by the lake, but the fishermen had gone from them and were washing their nets. And when he went into the boat with Simon, and then he said, want you to push out from the land. And he sat down and was taught the multitudes from the boat. When he had stopped talking, he said to Simon, launch out into the deep and let down your nets for a catch. But Simon answered and said to him, master, we have toiled all night and catch nothing. Nevertheless, at your word will I let down my nets. So what he's got to do, get into somebody else's imagination. Because in reality, this isn't possible. So he is already doubting because he knows this is not the perfect timing. So he says, I'm just letting you know that this is not a good time. But then he says, nevertheless, at your words, I will let down the net. And when they had done this, they had caught a great multitude of fish, that it was breaking the nets, that they had to signal the other boats to come help him. So we know that in verse eight. And then he fell down at his knees saying, depart from me. Now we know that this Jesus consistently is trying to get people to walk in his imagination. Imagination is something we look back at the beginning of time. We know that God created us in what, his image. Now we know that God is a creator from day one and continues to create. So he said, I have made you in my image. Elephants don't have imagination. Monkeys, snakes, tigers, none of them have imagination. But we do. And there. And there is very little today that we cannot do. Wouldn't we agree, Whether it's medically going to the moon, whatever. And we know that when God made us in his image, therefore we are imagination beings, because he said he saw it before it came to pass. So we know it says the Tower of Babel was a place that they said that their imagination was so great that nothing could have stopped them. And they did that through unified imagination. Imagination is something that God has put in us to be creators and to see it through his eyes. And if you can't imagine it, then you can't have it. You can't have it if you can't imagine it. And if you can't imagine it, then you need to walk in my imagination. You need to walk in your pastor's imagination. Because we're standing in a building today that the Andersons imagined and saw in their spirit. And we're standing there now. And I don't have to imagine it. They've already done it, but they saw it in here first. Okay, let's go somewhere. You ready? Okay. I'm going to the beach right now. It's a beautiful day, and there's a nice lounge chair. Ms. Reba's got her hat on. She's sitting on the beach. Beautiful day. The waves are perfect, beautiful weather. The birds Are chirping. Are y' all there with me? And it's beautiful. There's a couple nice little kids out on the beach, and we're just soaking up the sun. Are y' all there with me? Do you see that in your spirit? We're there. How about, let's go to the mountains? And we're up in the beautiful pines, and we're smelling the pines. Little nice breeze coming through. I'm eating a little bit of granola. Have a nice drink with me. Sitting there, and I just hear the tranquility of how beautiful it is and how quiet it is. Can y' all imagine that? You see that place? Did you know we have to walk in that place? When it comes to miracles, That's the place you have to be in. So you have to say, I see your children completely whole walking. And I see them that their face is starting to turn back to normal. I see your back straightening up. I see your pain gone. I see it completely gone. But I have to stay in my imagination. Oh, ye of little. What imagination? And Jesus continues to get people to live through his imagination. He said, when I say this, you need to get behind me. One thing I appreciate about Ms. Reba is she has such revelation on the womb because she had to believe and put herself in a place that did not exist. And she saw her children before they existed, but she had to continue against all odds to live in a place where she lived in an imagination state but before they became manifested. And so my goal would be, I don't have that revelation on the womb. So what I need to do is, is get in Ms. Reba's imagination and say, Ms. Reba, if you see that, I see it too. Isn't that right? And so when there's people that have greater imagination in an area than I have, so my job is to fall in line with their imagination. My mom has an imagination that I have to fall in line with and say, see how you and me went to the beach? That's what you got to do. And say, if you see that building paid off, I can see it, too. And this is what Jesus was trying to get his disciples to say and do. He said, because you're not with me in my imagination. Amen. Are y' all being helped? So we know the meaning of imagination is the act of power, of forming a mental image of something not present to the senses, are never before perceived in reality. And this is the way that God made us. So we can walk in faith or imagination to bring it into manifestation. Amen. Genesis 15:2. Let's go back to the beginning. Genesis 15:2. Abraham is here, and he's having a discussion with God because he doesn't understand how it's possible that his descendants are going to come from him. And he's telling them that I'm going to bring you an heir. It's going to be so great. And it says here in five. And it says that he was. Now we know this, that it said that he was in a tent, and he's having this argument with God. Well, when there's a tent, you have boundaries and you can't see very far. So many of us need to get out the tent so we can see something different. You can't live in your reality. So he says. So it says here in verse 5. Then he brought him outside and said, look now towards the heavens and count the stars, if you are able to number them. And he said to him, so shall your descendants be. And he believed in the Lord, and he accounted him for righteousness. So he believed. Or we can say he imagined it at that moment that he says, I see what you're showing me now. So therefore, when I look up, there is millions and millions and millions. But I believe I'm getting in your imagination. And if you're telling me that, then it exists. We know that Moses had a tremendous time believing. So God gave him a staff that he could use to bring imagination into reality. So he says, put forth your staff. And he had a hard time. And it got to the point where he said, this time, don't take your staff. And what did Moses do? He took it and he hid it. And he says, because you can't use your imagination, you can't go where I'm taking you. And that's the same thing God said to me. He said, where I'm taking you, you're going to have to use your imagination. Because I've never seen what it is like to have arms and legs grow out. I've never seen that. And it's so foreign to us in a natural state. We have to watch a horror movie or something else to see that actually manifest. You guys know what I'm talking about? To see a morphing of something, I don't know what it sounds like. I don't know what it looks like. I can only imagine. So that's where I have to live. And if you say that I'm crazy, that's fine, too, because I was thinking about musk. And, you know, this man is on the edge of his Imagination at all points. We know that he was. Lately he's saying he's going to Mars. And when I heard it, I thought, that's so stupid. You know, like why? Why? And I got convicted because this man is using his imagination. And nothing that he's doing has been off limits to him yet he's created everything he's wanted to do. He's landed a rocket where it catches it like scissors because of the consistent imagination that it is possible. He said, they don't have to crash into the ocean and be destroyed. I can grab them and reuse them. Do you know that wasn't possible until someone would force that imagination into reality and continuously see it inside of him. So when he says he's going to Mars, I have to believe the man's going to Mars. I don't know what the purpose is. But you know what? I believe he's going because he lives out of his imagination. There's secular people that do far better with their imagination than the church. And that shouldn't be the case. We know that we today are living out of remnants of our past forefathers imagination. Smith Wigglesworth, Kathryn Kuhlman, Oral Roberts and we're living on what they showed us was possible. Now we have to. But we have, see, we have to develop our own imagination behind them and pick up the baton when they leave. And we know that a whole healing was gone, a whole revelation of healing was gone because people got concerned what people thought about him, we got concerned what people would think about us, and we lost it. So my job is, like, I told you, I can, I can push the lawnmower, yo, I don't really care. So what my job is, is to believe and use my imagination. That down syndrome can be fixed. And I don't know what it looks like, but I can only imagine over time, in a certain amount of time, that eyes start to come straight again, that the body starts to straighten up. Because that's what Jesus told me to do. He said, where I'm taking you, you're going to have to use your imagination to get there. And if you don't talk about it, if you don't talk about it, how's the people going to get behind you? Are y' all being helped? So far. We're going to have to have childlike faith so we can walk in imagination. We know that Bill Winston said he believed he was Superman. Bill Winston really thought he was Superman. And he's talked about it to the point where he would stand up at the TV and he was Superman, and he was so much Superman that he was going to go jump off the top of the house, because in him, he saw that he was going to have such imagination that he was going to fulfill Superman's role. And obviously, he jumped off and fell. And then he realized he really wasn't. But what he's saying here is it was such a part of him that he wore the same shirt that he got from a cereal box every day, that he believed that he was Superman. And when it comes to healing, you have to believe that you're healed. It's who you are. It's who you are. Healing is you. You are healing. But if you separate it from you, then I'm sorry, it's not for you. You can't have it, because you have to see yourself. Just like we went to the beach, just like we went to the mountains. You have to see yourself in it. Amen. I don't even know what time it is. So you have to see yourself. Imagination. You know, we just got that new plane, but, you know, I'm already on the next one. I'm on the next one because I see the next one. I see the ends of the wings. I see the back of it. I see more windows. I see panels in the cockpit. I have to see it, and I walk in it. I see myself walking up the stairs. I see myself sucked. Some of you need to see yourself in a new house. Forget reality. Walk in your imagination. God said, if you can imagine it, you can have it. Do you see your church paid off? Do you see your church full? Do you see your voice expanded? You have to do it with some imagination. Are y' all being helped? So let's go here. John 4:50. John 4:50. Miss Reba, thank you for stepping out in that area that God has. So that's why it's so real to you, because you had to walk in that. You had to. You had to see it before you received it. And you walked in a place and you set up a room. You did everything, and you used your imagination to get there. Thank you, ma', am, for doing that. And I'm endeavoring to do that with everything that God told me I can have. But I'm using her as an example because it's so precious. Amen. And Jesus said to him, this is the nobleman's son. And we know this man walked for many, many miles. I believe it was something of 25 miles. And he expected a certain result. And he said. He said to himself, I'm going to have Jesus come to my house and lay hands on my son, and therefore he'll be healed. Well, things changed during that time. And so Jesus said to him, go your way, your son lives. And it says this next part. So the man believed the words that Jesus spoke. So what he had to do is he had a certain image of Jesus coming to his house. And Jesus said, I don't have time to come, but what I can do is I'm sending my word. And it says the man, he had to believe it. And then he had to walk away with that imagination that God gave him, that he said, I am going home with a new vision in my. In my spirit. And if Jesus said he was healed, therefore he must be healed. So he had to walk in Jesus imagination. The lady with the issue of blood, what did she say? If I can touch, did you know? She had to physically see that within her, and that was the result. She got. T.L. osborne said this. He said, more people. I'm not saying more. I'm saying. He said just a tremendous amount of people got healed by touching him. He said he would land at an airport and people would just jump on him, and they were instantly healed. Well, where did they learn that from? They learned it from the lady that touched the hem of his garment. And they believed. And what did they. Where were they walking? They were walking in her imagination. You see that? And they believed. If that's what she did, then I can have it that way. And he said he would stand there and people just. He said, I didn't feel no anointing. I didn't feel nothing. I'm sweating and they're just touching me all over. And he said they would walk away screaming and hollering because they were instantly healed. Think about that. They were walking in someone else's apartment. Imagination. Praise God. So if you can't believe, then I'm going to tell you, you need to walk in my imagination. You need to walk in a place that I'm telling you it's possible for cancer to be dissolved. It's possible for diabetes to be gone. It's possible for Alzheimer's to be wiped out. And I'm walking in a place and I'm telling you that he said it's possible, therefore I'm saying it and I'm seeing it in my spirit. A complete face change right in front of me. Autism, completely healed. Broken bones, completely healed. Arms and legs. Why are you saying arms and legs? It's because there's people that need it. I have a young man that was born without one arm and has half of fingers on the other, he wasn't born without it. He had birthing material wrapped up in his womb and it severed his hands off. So what am I supposed to do? Just say, good luck in life, or do I have to walk somewhere? Where do I got to walk? In a place that I believe, that hands and fingers start coming out the middle of that nut, that I believe fingers come out of that place. I have to believe it. I don't have nothing else to lose. Neither does he. He already doesn't have it. So therefore, it takes somebody to believe that it's possible. It's possible for that to happen. Lay hands on the sick, and what are they going to do? They shall recover. Therefore, I have to stand on that. Whether something happens or not, I have to continuously walk in imagination. I have to walk in that place. Amen. Are y' all being helped so far? Healings and miracles manifest when consistent imagination is applied. You can write that down. Healing and miracles manifest when consistent imagination is applied. Luke 8. 49. I'm getting to my end here. Luke 8. 49. What I'm preparing you for is when Nancy Dufresne gets up that you're ready to receive your healing, when she calls out things. But you have to see it in your spirit. I went to. I was at a church, the Luffman's Church, and I called up. I told them, when I told you a couple days ago that God said, will you lay hands on kids with down syndrome? I said, yeah. I mean, I really didn't think about it that much with children, you know, I'm not a child person. I don't like kids. I don't like my own sometimes, you know? But, like, if someone gives me a baby, I'm like, no, no, no, give me that baby. That ain't my baby. You know, I didn't like my own babies that much, you know, I'm just not a baby person, you know? And so I find that so ironic that God would have me talk to me about kids. And you know what? They brought up a handful. I mean, probably six or seven kids, down syndrome, autism, all these things. And I told the parents, I said, I want you to know, I see your kids whole, and I want you to get behind me in faith and believe that every day there's a little bit of change. Every day there's a little bit more, there's a little bit more change, there's a little bit more until they're completely whole. If it happened With Dad Hagin and he believed like that girl that my wife was talking about, then it's possible. And I don't care if something that we've never seen, I don't care. I still have to believe it's possible. What do we got to lose? Your pride, identity, what people think about you. How are we going to get back into miracles? George Pearson said this to me because I was talking about this at their victory thon. He said you get revival in miracles when you talk about it and when you consistently bring it up. And I said, yes sir, that's true. And I believe that's what God is having me do at these times. Because most of my sermons are healing related now and I didn't expect that. So I figured he wants me to do something. And so here we're looking at. What am I looking at here? Okay, this is the girl that was healed. We know this. And then he says, I'm going back to 48 here. And then. And he said to her daughter, be of good cheer. Your faith has made you whole. Go in peace now. Let's go down here. I'm at. What did I tell you guys? 8:49. It says while he was still speaking, someone came from the ruler of the synagogue's house saying, your daughter is dead, do not trouble the teacher. But then Jesus heard it and he answered and said, do not be afraid, only what? Or we could say, use your imagination. Think about that. Isn't that neat how you can slide that in there? Only use your imagination. That's what faith is, is using your imagination. Only believe and she will be made whole. Then he came to the house and he permitted no one to go except Peter, James, John, etc. And the mother and the father of the girl. Now this is the next part I want to look at now. All wept and mourned for her. But he said, do not weep, she's not. What, where is he talking from? He's talking from a place of imagination. Because reality he can't stay in. He can't stay in that realm. He has to be in a place imagination. And he said that she's not dead, but she's sleeping. Think about that, that he had to stay in that realm. Remember, we're at the beach. You're at the beach. You can imagine that, can't you Imagine her just sleeping. He has to put a screen in front of him and say, this is what I see. I don't see that in the face of everything around you. You have to stay in a constant state of imagination. Amen. And they ridiculed him, knowing that she was dead. But then he put them all outside because we know they couldn't imagine it. So he had to put them out. And he took her by the hand, called her little girl. What did he say? Arise. And the spirit returned to her. And what did she do? She arose. And immediately. And he commanded her, giving something to eat. And her parents were astonished because we realized the parents couldn't believe it. They couldn't imagine that happening. I want to jump here, and I'm going to wrap up here pretty soon. But he said here that we know Lazarus. I'm not going to read the whole thing because I get kind of lost in all of it. It jumps around. I'm not the best reader when it comes to that stuff, but because I'm thinking and I'm reading at the same time. Do you guys do that, too? You know, but we know this. That was it Mary or Martha, I don't remember. Was it? And he. Lazarus is dying. And he says, send for Jesus. Tell him to come at once. And he said, look, I'll be there when I be there. And he said, he'll be dead by that time. He said, that's all right. That's not a problem. That's not a problem. It's not a problem. He said, you don't have enough time to get there. He said, I got something I got to do here, so I'll be there when I get there. So he says, don't worry about it. And so then he goes, and we know that. She says. He comes and she's like, how is this going to happen? He says, look, let me tell you something. I'm telling you, he's going to arise. And she thinks it's in the next life. Well, you mean he's going to. He said, no, no, no. I'm telling you, when I get there, he's going to rise in this life. And so I'm not sure if I'm getting the story just right. But then we know that he has to walk in a place of imagination through all that. And he said. And then they said, no, you don't understand. He's already stinking by this time, like it's over. He said, no, no, no, no. You're not seeing what I'm seeing and what I'm seeing. He's coming out. He's coming out of that place. But you. He had to live in a place that wasn't reality. And we know that that man came out of that. That Grave. He came out of that grave, and people consistently were astonished. And he tried to get his disciples to see it from imagination, he said. And they consistently were fighting it over and over. And at the end, one of them said, I won't believe it unless I see it. And he says, blessed are those that what believe, but let's change the word. You see, blessed are those that use their imagination. That it is possible that it did happen, that you look at it from a different place. So we know that Lazarus came out because he was living in imagination. Are y' all being helped this morning? I'm just trying to get you to look at it from a different place rather than you're fighting something in the natural. But don't live in this realm. Live in the next one. Live in that thing. Why do we have imagination? Is it just there to fantasize the stuff that was never possible? Why? Why would God put that inside of me? How do we create something? We have to see it here first. Nobody's created nothing without seeing it. An airplane had to be seen in the spirit before it was manifested. A skyscraper had to be built in here first before it was ever manifested. And I'm telling you, I'm Billy. I'm building miracles in my spirit, and I need y' all to get with me. I'm seeing it happen. I'm living from a different place. Yeah. I'm not being prideful. I'm not being. I'm not trying to be something I'm not. But I got to go somewhere. Amen. I'm almost done. So we know that the people with the Tower of Babel, that they said nothing is impossible for them, and he had to scramble their voices because their imagination was so great. They got off. They were going places they shouldn't be going. And so he had to rein that in. Now we know when it comes to the 5,000 and he's feeding them, the disciples have seen enough. You know, it's so funny, because I wish there was so much more to be written, but I only imagine the disciples have a chisel and a rock, and they're, like, trying to write letters in the rock. And Jesus is healing people everywhere, and they're, like, healed of foot problems and. Okay. And they're looking around. Oh, forget it. You know, I mean, you know, that's why they said it can't be written, dude. I mean, I can't even spell hardly. So it's like, hey, we'll just draw a picture, a foot, an arm, a face, like, whatever, right? I mean, it's like, what do you do with all this? He said so much of it was happening that he couldn't even write it down. That's probably so. That's what my imagination shows me, that they're there with a rock, one letter, five minutes later. It only takes a few people with their imagination to change the world. Isn't that true? Most of us. I'm not saying us, but in theory, it's too big for us. We. We can't imagine it. But there's a select few that have changed the world with their imagination. So therefore, that's what that is built inside of us for. That's what God put it in. There was for miracle work and power to develop something in us, to bring it into manifestation, into this realm. Amen. And I'm going to walk in that. Have I helped you guys today? So faith turns imagination into reality. So you have to believe in what God is showing you, and I have to develop that. I refuse not to step on the threshold of miracles and not walk in it. Many people have said there's a warehouse full of parts. Will you know where I see myself knocking at that door? Hey, I'm there at the warehouse. Okay, go with me. Where are we at? I see a big building, like an Amazon warehouse, and they got a door on the side. And I'm knocking at the door, Hey, I need those parts. I'm here. But I got there with my imagination. And Jesus has got to honor me because he told me, if you can't believe, believe. If you can believe, you can have it. So I believe that cancer can just be wiped out. I believe that you can get new teeth. I know it's impossible, but I'm not walking in that place. Bone spurs disappear. Joint problems, completely healed. Arthritis, completely wiped out. Tony, you was right on time, boy. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. So we leaving here today with something, and we gonna leave here with some imagination. I want you to know it doesn't matter what it looks like, it doesn't matter what it feels like. I don't care what people say it is. You keep that in your spirit. And if you can't see it in your spirit, then you follow my spirit. And if I'm telling you, then you can get in line behind me. And if you got a pastor that's going somewhere, get behind them pastors. You're going to have to lead your people in imagination and take them to a place they're following you. I know this, that there was a time when I Was going through kind of chronic pain, not illness. I mean, I could still work. You wouldn't have known that I was sick. But I have consistent pain in my body. And every day when I knew I woke up, I knew I had a fight on my hands. And I got to the point, you know, where you feel so alive when you're at an age. You know, you feel so like you'll live forever. You know, you just feel good. And I never thought. I never saw myself with so much pain in my body. And I knew, and I thought to myself, I'm only like 35 years old. And I got to a place that I would have been okay if I died tomorrow, because the pain was so much that I thought, I don't want to live the rest of my life with this. And I feel like, you know, it governs my life. And I know I have a fight every day for the rest of my life on my hands. And it was so real to me that I go, there's people that wake up every day with this. Bless their hearts. And I said, father, I'm getting out of this bed, and I'm going to defy it. And I believe I'm healed. And nothing, I didn't feel different. And that went on for months and months and months. But I believe that I was healed. And I refused to believe that this was my future. And I said, if I can't get this, I can't help nobody else. And so today I tell you I have very little of that ever left because I refuse to let that. I would walk and say, stephen, you're the most healed person in this room. You're so healed that I'm more healed than every single one of you. I have more healing than you got. I got more, more, more. Healing just flows through my body. I don't even know what to do with. Just flows through my body. It's who I am. Healing is who I am. And I would just walk in it with no physical feeling that got better. But as I continued to flow in that, I started to get better because I refused to give up. Don't go by feeling. Don't go by sight. What did he tell us? He said, if you can believe, if you can imagine, it belongs to you. See yourself healed. Make plans that don't go with sickness. Sickness tells you you can't go to Disneyland for the day. You can't go to the beach. Where's your meds? Take your meds right now. Actually, that's what sickness does. It governs you. So you have to live out of a place of imagination to bring it into reality. Go ahead and stand. Praise God. Praise God. Praise God. We are. We are healed. We are whole. It doesn't matter what it looks like. It doesn't matter what it feels like, because I'm not living from that place. I'm living from around where arms grow out and legs grow out and cancer just disappears. Tumors fall off, eyesight restore. That's why where I'm living from, there's more people watching than there is here. So if you're watching, I want you to know what you've heard today is revelation to you. Walk in imagination. Envision it with your family. Tell your family where you're going. And I'm telling you today, lay hands on yourself right now and say, father, in the name of Jesus, I call myself healed. I call myself whole. I'm healed from the top of my head to the soles of my feet. And I'm getting out this bed, I'm getting out this wheelchair, and I'm walking in my imagination. And in that realm, I'm completely healed. And I receive it now in Jesus mighty name. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Praise God. Praise God. God. Now, if you cannot come back to any more of these services, I encourage you to, obviously. But if you can't come back, I want to lay hands real quick. If there's anybody and you say, hey, I cannot come back, I want you to come here and I'm going to lay hands on you and you're going to be healed in Jesus name. Praise God. Praise God. Praise God. Praise God. It looks like everybody. Is there someone coming? We're good. Okay. That's wonderful. That means everyone's going to come back. Get some more word in them. Hey. So tonight when a healing line comes up, we know when someone says, I got this or that, that ain't no problem. Because brother Stephen, I'm going to get in his imagination realm and what I told you is possible. We trust you've enjoyed this message. Visit us at defrainministries.org to learn of our upcoming meetings, share your testimony, become a partner or visit our online store. This program has been made possible by the friends and partners of Dufresne Ministries.