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Hi, I'm Nancy Dufresne. Welcome to our podcast channel. We know you'll be blessed by today's message. You know, I heard dad hagin. I guess it was yesterday or so on a tape. He made a statement. He said, you know, people talk about dying to self. He said, you don't have to die to self. He said, the old man's dead. He said, what you're talking about when you say dying to self? You're talking about not letting the flesh rule you. So what do we do so the flesh doesn't rule us? We present our bodies to God. Amen. You say, well, how do I present my bodies to God? Well, you can only do it by the Spirit. And presenting our bodies to God, what's that mean? Don't present it to anything that isn't God. Don't present it to sin. Don't present it to wrongdoing. Don't present it to offenses she was talking about because the flesh will want to go the wrong direction. And we have to make sure. Nope. That flesh is already presented to God. We're not presenting it to something else. Amen. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. We'll turn to somebody before you're seated and say, you look so good in Christ today. Hallelujah. Good morning, everyone. We are so glad that you're here, aren't we? Are we glad to be in this room today? I've been waiting a long time for this, right? And it's like I'm cheated. When you go home, what's that? You going home? What is that? Don't you know that California is where, you know, it's like vacation land. But not only that, it's desirable place to be. Don't listen to the media. That's right. It's not all true. It's only true in certain regions, and we're not that region. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. Well, I had some things in my heart for my service this morning, and so we're going to address that. But some things that Brother Keith said and ministered last night wasn't that good. How many of you know that? That straightened our corkscrew, right?
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Yeah, sure did.
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And. And so I'm just going to pick up with a few of the things that he said, then go into what was in my heart, because it does join in a measure. So let's start where he referred to last night. Proverbs chapter 12 in verse 18. And I'm just going to read one phrase around that. Proverbs chapter 12. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Proverbs, chapter 12 and verse 18. And he referred to the verses around it, especially starting with verses 17, going through verses 22. It's talking about lying and truth in those verses. That's the whole subject matter. And then sandwiched into those verses, talking about lying in truth is in verse 18, the last phrase of verse 18 that says the tongue of the wise is health. So sandwiched in lying in truth is this statement about our health. So what's it mean speaking truth or lies will show up in our health? It's basically what it's saying. How you use your tongue is going to show up. And specifically regarding speaking the truth or speaking lies is going to arrive in our health. And if we're wise, we will speak truth because we want truth in our health. What's truth in our health? Himself took my infirmities and bore my sicknesses. That's truth. That's what we speak when a lying symptom shows up. Amen. Because symptoms come to try to flip your tongue from truth to lies. Symptoms are nothing but a temptation.
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Yes, Amen.
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They're a temptation to be sick.
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All right. Amen. That's right.
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But we're not the sick, so we reject that temptation to be sick. Amen. So we never can in our thought life change from. Because symptoms show up in the body or try to attach themselves to the body, we can't change our believing. Remember what he talked about? Started last night talking about believing. We don't just believe. We believe truth. Believe truth. And so we don't want symptoms. We don't let symptoms change our belief. We're still the healed. No matter what symptoms show up. We don't leave the ranks of the healed and the whole. Why? Because we didn't step outside of Christ.
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Yes, that's right.
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Symptoms are trying to draw your thinking outside of Christ. In Christ there's no sickness. In Christ there's no symptoms. The devil is wanting us to see ourselves, not in Christ, but outside of Christ. Because outside of Christ is where symptoms and pain and disease is. But we're going to the tongue of the wise. The tongue of the wise? What's the wise? The one who won't be duped in their believing of the truth. The tongue of the wise is what?
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Health.
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It's health, meaning this. We have to hold the truth to stay in health.
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That's right. Amen.
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Because it's. Thank God, healing belongs to us. If symptoms, if disease is trying to attach itself. But it's not just truth, won't just Heal us. It holds us in health.
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Amen. Amen.
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So we hold to truth in our speech and it holds us in health. And it's wise to not leave truth in your mouth. Now, Paul made this statement in First Corinthians, chapter 11. We won't take time to turn there. But he's talking about how I received of the Lord. Revelation. What is it about Communion? What is this all about now? No, he talked to some of the disciples who were there, but he did not impart that or record that in 1st Corinthians 11 based on hearsay. He recorded it based on revelation. He wasn't just talking to someone present and recorded what they said. This was revelation that he recorded. Although he would have spoken to those apostles who were there. Right. And he said for this cause. What cause? The phrase right before it. Not discerning the Lord's body for this cause. See, the Bible singles out a cause for this cause. Many, not a few. Many are weak, sickly, and many die prematurely. And many sleep is what he called it. But they die prematurely. Why is it there's a two sided coin on that? Discerning the Lord's body, discerning that sickness and disease was laid on his body for this cause. Many people have left that truth.
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Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
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And because of leaving that truth. Because symptoms talk them into a lie.
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That's right. That's right. That's right.
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Because symptoms are liars.
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That's right.
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That God didn't speak them. So they didn't. It came from only health, came from God. Wholeness came from God. Anything that's not health and wholeness did not come from God. So it came from a lying source. So we are to say these symptoms, although we're aware they're trying to attach themselves, they are liars because they're against who I am in Christ. They're against truth. Right. So the tongue of the wise holds to truth if it's going to have health. And that's really. Can I tell you this? The fight of faith is not a fight with the devil. The fight of faith, fighting the good fight of faith is not a fight with the devil. It's a fight to believe the right thing. It's a fight to believe truth. Why? Because everything that's coming against you does not carry any truth. And the devil doesn't want to just post a bold lie in your face. He wants to twist the truth.
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Right? Right.
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One word. One word can twist. Can I tell you this? There's one letter that can twist the truth. Not just even. It doesn't even need a whole word, just one letter. You remember when dad Hagin was in dad Goodwin's home preaching years ago? And those alarming heart symptoms, Those of you who would know his stories, alarming heart symptoms showed up in the middle of the night. Dad Hagin had been raised up off of a deathbed. He was cured of heart condition, incurable heart condition. And these symptoms would try to return at different times in his life. What are they? Lying symptoms to try to lie to him, to tell him he is no longer the healed. So these lying symptoms had persisted for a few days. And one night, finally, he couldn't get off to sleep because his symptoms were so strong. And he pulled the covers up, you'll remember, and pulled the covers over his head not to disturb anyone else in the house. And he started laughing. And the devil said, what are you laughing at? He said, I'm laughing at you. Why are you laughing at me? Because you said I'm not going to get my healing. That's right, you're not going to get your healing. So he keeps laughing. Another 10 minutes or so. Ha ha ha. Putting it on, putting it on, putting it on. And so after a few minutes, the devil said, what are you laughing at? I already told you, I'm laughing at you. Why are you laughing at me? Because you said, I'm not gonna get my healing. And he said, devil, I don't have to get it, I've already got it. Now, one letter in the word get or got one letter. One letter in a word changed everything from a lie to a truth, from a truth to a lie. One letter. The devil doesn't need the whole sentence, just one letter. A lie doesn't need the whole sentence. It just needs one letter. We are not getting. We have already gotten. We got, we got, we got, we got, we got. Amen. So holding to truth is holding to every single letter, every single letter, people will say, well, you don't have to be that legalistic. Tell the bank that in a contract. Tell them that. Tell them that. I know that. You know. Page 34, paragraph 3, line 2 says, I have to pay you back. But I don't know. You meant everything in this contract. Yeah, yeah. It doesn't matter. Even if you didn't read it, you signed it, you signed it and it's all true. So tell the bank. Don't be so legalistic. But people tell God, why do you. It's so legalistic. No, truth is truth. It only takes one letter to change and leave Truth. And the devil's playing with one letter at a time. Amen. Because if he changes a whole sentence, you won't swallow it. But if he just changes one letter, you might overlook it. I mean, it's what he said to Jesus. If. Two letter word. If. If. Thou be the son. If. If. If. Ah, well, no. Anyway, praise the Lord. Hallelujah. Now go with me, if you would, to Jonah. Jonah, chapter two. Hallelujah. Jonah, chapter two. Jonah missed God.
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Yeah. Come on.
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He disobeyed God. And even in his disobedience, God had a rescue. It wasn't the most desirable rescue, but it was a rescue nonetheless. You know, when you miss God, you can't pick and choose what your rescues look like. When you disobey, you just gave up the right to choose the form of rescue. That's right. That's right. And God will use a rescue that will leave the most, the greatest impression upon you, so you don't throw away your obedience quickly the next time. Isn't that right? Yeah. He's not trying to make life hard, but he wants to remind you. He wants you to live with something that. Mm. This is a reminder.
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Yes, ma'.
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Am.
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Amen.
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Jonah never saw the water again. The same. I don't know if he ever went deep sea fishing.
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Too tired I've been.
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Or the next time he rode a boat. I don't. I bet he wasn't out whale watching. He probably didn't pay any money to go whale watching. Right. Jonah 2:8. He is. Where is he at this time, do we know? He's in the belly of the well, he's got seaweed wrapped around his head is what he says. And he's turning toward the mount of God in the belly of a whale. He's doing all he can do for God's presence, you know. And he makes this statement. In the belly of a whale with seaweed wrapped around his head, inside all kinds of lunch, breakfast. Not his lunch, not his breakfast, but that of another. And he makes this statement, Jonah 2:8. They that observe lying vanities forsake their own mercies. But I will sacrifice unto thee with the voice of thanksgiving. So he's saying, I'm in the belly of a whale. But it's a lying vanity. He sees it, he feels it. He's in the middle of it. And he still calls it a lie. Therefore, he could give God the voice of sacrifice, of thanksgiving. And the whale got a bellyache. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And spit him up. Isn't it good? He didn't Even spit him up out in the middle of the ocean. Because that's where whales are, right?
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Right.
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They're not at the beach. But this one came to the beach and delivered him.
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Praise God. Come on.
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Yeah, but here he's sitting in this place of correction. Rescue, but a correction. And he says, that which looks like my defeat, that which looks like my death, is a lying vanity. If he would have given up hope, that he would have been digested. That's exactly right. But he did not give up hope even when the thing was wrapped around his head. You think that pressure wraps around your head? What about something seaweed in the belly of a whale wrapped around your head, brother. And he still would not give up the truth. I will not observe a lying vanity, because if I do, there's no more mercy for me. I can't receive mercy when I embrace a lie, no matter how tangible, no matter how I feel it, no matter how I see. Amen. Now, in the Old Testament, men had to come into the presence of God. The priests had to offer what? Animal sacrifices. Aren't you glad that we have a better covenant? I'm glad. This foyer this morning doesn't look like Old Testament sacrifices going on out there. You know, before came together in here, you know. But we still have to. There are still sacrifices to offer in the New Testament. What is it?
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Praise. Yeah. Amen.
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Hebrews 13:15 says in the Amplified classic, through him, therefore, let us constantly and at all times offer up to God a sacrifice of praise. Praise is the new covenant approach into the presence of God. Amen. Which is the fruit of lips that thankfully acknowledge and confess and glorify his name. But look what the Amplified says. Constantly and at all times. Even when a lie comes constantly and at all times, how do you keep from swallowing the lie? Have the right thing in your mouth? When you've got the right thing in your mouth, the wrong thing cannot be swallowed. Amen. Symptom sickness. Want to call you. Want you to call yourself sick. If you speak that lie, you're speaking against who Christ made you to be.
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That's right.
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You're talking as one outside of him instead of one in him.
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Amen.
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Amen. Symptoms come to try to convince you that you are the sick instead of the healed well. Likewise, light comes to try to call you broke instead of rich. You have to know this. This is where so many of the people in the body of Christ miss it. It's not money that makes you rich. It's in Christ. It's in Christ. He was made Poor that I might be made rich. Are you made rich? Are you made rich? You are made rich. Why? Not money, not homes, not lands, not properties that didn't make you rich in Christ made you rich. You are rich. And because you are rich, the money must come, the buildings must come, the properties must come because they belong to rich. So when it looks like you can't pay your bills, don't try to get prosperity. It shows you you're thinking outside of Christ. When people double down on work hours.
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Come on now.
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And miss church. To double down on work hours because they think money is what makes them rich. They don't under they're joining a lie. You are the rich. You are the rich. You are the rich. That's your new covenant. That's your in him place. Now these things come to try to tempt you to change from believing the truth to believing a lie. And calling yourself broken, calling yourself behind, calling yourself, never having enough.
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Come on.
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And you have to call yourself the truth. The rich. I'm the rich. I'm the rich. And because I'm rich, the devil say, you're not rich. You can't even pay your bills. I'm not rich because my bills are paid. I'm rich because I'm in Christ. And because I am the rich, my bills are paid in Christ. Glory to God. Everything that the devil works is to try to pull you outside of who you are in Christ. Amen. Everything is met in Christ. Amen. Praise the Lord. Now, Jonah said, observing lying vanities, observing. The definition says to put your attention on and to comply with. To observe something. You're not just looking at it, you're complying with it because you're giving it attention.
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Right.
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What your attention is on is what you're agreeing to.
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That's right. Amen. Amen.
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You say, well, I agree that I'm healed, but I'm looking at my body. Nope, you're not looking at your body.
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That's right.
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I mean, you're not agreeing. You're healed. You are. Whatever you're observing, whatever has your attention, that's what you're moving.
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Amen.
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This is the fight of faith, is keep your tension off your body. I mean, when symptoms would try to come. I remember one night, I'm sitting doing some work, symptoms try to come. And I just said, too late, I'm already healed.
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Amen.
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But once I said that, I did not let my mind touch the symptoms. Because what your thoughts are on and what has your attention is what you're complying with. So this is the word observe. Those who observe, or those who comply with lying vanities, forsake their own mercies. Why? Because God doesn't have anything else to offer you except in Christ. That's who you are. And if you're going to reject that by complying with a lie, he's got nothing else to offer you. Because there's nothing better than in Christ. There's nothing higher, there's nothing fuller than in Christ. Amen. There was one situation years ago that somebody that was struggling physically and they were not often in church, but when they were in church, you could tell they were troubled. And so I saw them really declining faster and faster. So I made a point to go visit them and they were telling me everything they were doing physically, diet wise. They had all the latest, greatest potions and they, oh, I've done this to myself because I haven't eaten. I said, sister, don't even go there, even go there. And they had taken and blamed their whole eating thing. Now, I'm not saying, I'm not saying eating wrong, but when you start shifting that your health is connected to your supplements, I don't care who you are, you need a healer. And this is the subtleness of all that extra. It can shift your faith without you never even feeling it shift. You never even knew. Because if you're afraid to leave home without your supplements, guess what? You shifted. Yeah, you shifted. If you're not shifted, then leave them off for a month. If you're not shifted, test where your shift is. Leave them off for a month. Let's see if you get up and go, oh, I should be taking. You shifted. And that will open the door to sickness and disease because you shifted your faith from the divine healer to human techniques and methods that change month by month based on who's on Instagram. I'm not against taking care of your body. I'm talking about the devil only needs one letter at a time, one pill at a time, one supplement at a time just to shift you little by little. Little by little, you ought to be, you ought to easily forget that you took, you didn't take your supplements. If you can't forget it, you're shifted. So anyway, so this is where this conversation went with this person. And I said, sister, I said, I'm telling you what your problem. Even though your body may be having issues, it didn't begin there. That's not the root, the root of it's fear. The root of it's fear. They would not believe me that it was Fear. And I said, what I want you to do is I want you. I'll come back next week, and I want you to go through the Word and you find scriptures that let you know that you're free from fear. And I want you to write them out and you feed on them this week. When I came back the next week, they hadn't done it. So I came back expecting that that might not have happened. So I had a sheet right there. There it is, baby. It's right there. No, except. So I talked to him for a little bit, came back the next week, and I said, did you feed on those scriptures I left you? Well, after you left, I misplaced them. I can't find them. And I go, well, I said to myself, that's the last time I'll be here. Because I, you know, when someone's overwhelmed, I understand. I'll keep working with you. But when you out and out, just will not cooperate. I can't. I just. I got nothing left to give you. So they were. Within a short amount of time, I received a phone call that they were in the hospital. And so I went there to the hospital and precious family around that person. Precious family. And I said to the family, what do you want to do? Because she's in a coma. They said, we want to release her. Yeah, she's been tormented for a long time. And when I told her how to be free from fear, I could not convince her that it was fear at the root of this thing. It wasn't sickness, it wasn't disease. And I said, okay, let's release her. And we did. In about 15 minutes, she was gone. And the doctors of their own accord said, we couldn't find anything wrong with her, and we want to do an autopsy on our own. They did an autopsy, and they said there was no sickness, no disease. What was it? A lying vanity that she observed was killed with lying symptoms. She felt something that wasn't there. The devil can produce a feeling that is not there. Not just that testimony. Dad Hagin talks about the time. It wasn't in one of his services, but he was at a church where the pastor had brought in a minister that had a strong miracle ministry and said there were two women with the exact same kind of cancer in his congregation, and both of them were healed under that minister. After that minister left about six months later, one of the women that had been healed stood up and said to the congregation, I'd ask you all to pray with me. The symptoms have returned. And when she did that, the other Second woman that was healed stood up and said, can I say something, Pastor? I think it will help her. She said, symptoms try to return to me too, but I told them, no, you don't.
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That's right.
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I talk to them. I would not believe that I'm not the healed anymore. She said, I talk to them, Sister, if you'll talk to them. It's not about getting people to pray. No amount of people praying will change someone who believes a lie. When you choose, believe a lie. And so they said, this woman who got up and asked for prayer, within a few months she died. And the thing is, the doctors said after she was dead, they did an autopsy. They said there was not one cell of cancer in her body. The return of symptoms that lied to her. They were not even true.
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Come on.
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They were not even real.
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Come on.
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The devil can make this realm. He can manipulate this realm.
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That's right.
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What's he trying to do? Change where you put your faith. Change what you believe. And those that observe, those who comply with lying vanities, they forsake their own mercy. Well, praise the Lord. Psalm 31:6. Psalm 31:6. The previous verse before this is referring to. Really? Jesus on the cross. And the next verse here in verse 6 says, I have hated them that regarded lying vanities. Get away from people who regard lying vanities because it will bleed into your. You can't have fellowship and find your fellowship with people who easily shift from the truth. Because when you need your faith, you'll realize this has seeped into your belief system. And you better know who to call when you call for the prayer of agreement. Because somebody can speak one phrase to you that disrupts your faith, unsettles your faith. Well, we've been close for years. No, no, no, no, no. That's not a qualification. That's not a qualification. He says, I have hated them that regard lying vanities. Why? But I trust in the Lord. Why? Because he knows that to be in the fellowship of those who believe the wrong thing will affect his trust. Verse 7. I will be glad and rejoice in thy mercy.
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Come on.
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Amen. Notice I will, I choose. It's the choice of my will. Yes. Amen. Yeah. Romans 2, verse 3. Romans 2, verse 3. Of course, Paul is writing and he says, for what if some did not believe? What if shall their unbelief make the faith of God? Without effect means not changing anything about God. God forbid. Yes, let God be true. But every man a liar, anyone that doesn't agree with God, guess what they're believing.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. When our words line up with God's words, we're speaking truth. But when we speak in opposition to what God says, we're lying. We're lying. We're lying. That's true. When we say I'm getting worse. Well, you just sided with the outside of Christ. You didn't side with in Christ. And that's a lie to the real you. The real you is in Him. The real you is in him. The old man is outside of him. Now, don't try to court the old man anymore. We're not authorized to ever carry the thoughts of the old man. How do we know if we're living by the old man if we're setting aside the fruits of the Spirit? Love, joy, peace. All these, because this is the characteristics of the new man in Christ. Hallelujah. So God is still true even when we're lying. Amen. Turn with me, if you would, to Colossians, chapter two, verse six. Colossians chapter two, verse six. And I'm going to read out of the Amplified Classic in this. So if your device lets you, or if you. If you have that, just follow along with us in the Amplified. If you don't have an Amplified, you may just especially want to listen so you don't miss the wording. Colossians 2, verse 6. As you have therefore received Christ. Is that you?
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That's me.
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It's me. I have. I have. I have. I've received Him. What's that mean? I got him. I've got him, and he's got me. As you have therefore received, notice this. Everything in the kingdom is about receiving. Everything in the kingdom's about receiving. I'm talking about on our part, man's side. It's all about receiving. God's part is all about giving. And you know what? He already did it. So the only thing left is not getting God to give. The only thing left is us receiving. As you have therefore received Christ, even Jesus the Lord. So walk. This is talking. When you see the word walk, it's talking about your daily manner of living a lifestyle. A daily lifestyle. So walk. Regulate your lives and conduct yourselves in union with. Conduct yourselves in union with. And conformity to Him. You're always conforming to something. So our conforming is to be to him. Verse 7. This is the way we do. Verse 6. Verse 7 is how we do. Verse 6. We have to do it by doing verse 7. Now he's going to tell you how to conduct your life as one in Christ. Have the roots of your Being firmly and deeply planted in Him, Fixed, founded in him. Being continually built up in Him. What's in Him? Truth. So you have to be constantly embracing the truth, complying with the truth, speaking the truth. Because if not, you're putting yourself outside of him in your speech or in your conversation. Now, your spirit isn't. But I'm talking about if you're thinking speech. Amen. As a man thinketh in his heart, it'll start twisting up the real Him. Have the roots of your being firmly and deeply planted in him, fixed and founded in him, being continually built up in Him. What's the message of this passage? In him, becoming increasingly more confirmed and established in the faith. What's that mean? Strong faith comes out of knowing you're in Him. People are trying to fix their faith. If they'll just renew their minds. I'm in Him. There's no faith issues in Him. Amen. Those with the most robust faith are established that I'm in Him. And I'm living out of him. And I'm speaking from that place in Him. And I'm receiving from all that's in Him. I'm moving in Him. In Him. We live in him, we move in Him. We have our being. Look at this. In him, we have in him, we have in him, we have outside of Him. We got nothing worth having. Yeah. Becoming increasingly more confirmed and established in the faith. It's because you're establishing who you are in him, on the inside of you. You're not becoming more in him, but you're establishing in your thinking and in your speech and in your daily walk, living and moving as one in him, that that's governing everything of you, just as you were taught and abounding and overflowing in it. Overflowing, abounding and overflowing in it. With thanksgiving. Thanksgiving. Keeps sending your roots, keeps establishing your root system. Now, verse nine says this. For in him the whole fullness of Deity, the Godhead continues to dwell in bodily form, giving complete expression of the divine nature. And you are in Him. Wow, wow, wow. Made full and having come to fullness of life in Christ, you too are filled with the Godhead. Father, Son and Holy Spirit. And you reach full spiritual stature to stay a baby, stay ignorant of who you are in Christ. But to grow up in Christ and to be established and immovable. We build in us who we are. We see. We speak from that place. We think from that place. We operate from that place. You've heard me tell the story. I just completed 80 episodes filming in Texas on in Christ. And I started, I went in intending to preach another direction. And the weekend before I was to start episode one, God said, I don't want you to preach that direction in this. I want you to preach on in him. I said, I don't have any notes on that because I have to go in. Usually every week I go into filming with about 80 to 120 pages of notes to film one week. So I had 10 pages on in Him. And I said, God, I don't even have time to come up with that many pages. So I said, we're just going to turn cameras on and start rolling. And that's what we did. And it became 80 episodes. And I don't know when we go back, I don't know if more's tacking on to it, but we're just doing it just in Him. And I start off, this is the testimony that flipped the switch for me. And that's when Brother Copeland, back in the 70s, still in debt, just learning the principles of prosperity, young in ministry. And God speaks to him and says, I want you to sow $50,000 to Kenneth Hagin's ministry in the 70s. 50,000 is big today. Summer. You've calculated what that would have been. Was it like $413. $413,000 in today's money when God said 50,000 to him? So if God said to you, give $413,000 to a ministry, that's what Brother Copeland heard. Although the numbers were different, the value is the same of that. A man in debt heard that God wasn't trying to get 50,000 out of him, he was trying to get 50,000 into him through his hands. Through his hands.
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Through his hands.
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If God tells you to do something, it's because he's trying to get you to partake of that.
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Amen. Praise God. Yeah, praise God.
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So the skill of Brother Copeland's answer opened up this whole thing to me. And his answer, can you imagine what the mind would like to go on? Twilt and twilt. Yeah, twist and tilt. Twilt. One letter changed it all. And he did not go to his mind because in his own, outside of Christ, he didn't have it. But he said, in Christ I have it, and in Christ I can give it. So he started making movement as one in Christ. Now you can say, I'm in Christ. But if you don't give God something to. If you don't give him movement, he's got no movement to feel. You have to give him something to Manifest through. You can't just confess. Confess and confess and make no action.
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Come on. Amen.
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So Brother Copeland, at the end of every day, would take just the coins that came in through the day. When he would buy something, he would keep the change. And at the end of the day, he would put it in a box. And after that box would get full, he'd send it off to Brother Hagin. He did that send several times after a period of time, I don't know how long, maybe, he said, I don't remember. But he said he contacted their ministry and said, I don't even know how much I've given from this date. How much have I given? And they said, you've given well over $50,000. He said, There is no way in that box of change there was over $50,000. But what happens when we're in Christ? He makes up the difference.
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Hallelujah.
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If he can get us moving, he makes up the difference. I love the story of Lillian B. Yeomans. When she was a young girl, her dad was a doctor during. Was it Civil War? During the Civil War. And so he was stationed on a military post. And she would have been about 8, 9, 10, somewhere around in there. And her dad's said to one of the officers, I would like for you to give her riding lessons. Because when you're young, you need to be taught properly around these animals, right? So he agreed to some commanding officer, agreed to give his daughter riding lessons. And so they appointed a time every day they'd go riding. So when at the appointed time, she would show up and she's ready to ride. And so he had been giving her riding lessons for a period of time. And then one day a soldier said to this commanding officer, have you ever seen her mount her horse? It's a real hoot. And he goes, I guess I never have seen her mount, because when I come to the teaching time, she's already mounted and she's there. So he did not know how she was mounting, but he heard what this soldier said to him. So he shows up the next time that they're to have riding lessons and she's mounted, and in his most commanding voice, he says, dismount. And she just ignored him. And he said, I said dismount. And she said, I don't think I want to go riding today. Thank you. And he said, you're going riding, but you're going to dismount first. So she got off the horse and he said, mount. She said, I don't believe I want to Ride today. He said, you're mounting. She said, I can't mount. Come to find out, the way she had been mounting was she would pull the horse up to a little shed. She'd climb up on the shed and roll over onto the horse's. That's how she was mounting. Well, there's nothing wrong with that if that's all you can do. But when there's a correct knowledge, what's going to happen in life when you fall off your horse and there's no shed? That's why proper needs to be learned, right? Because life is going to put you in some circumstances. You better know something. You can't just live off the shed of somebody else's faith, baby. Mounting their shed of faith all the time. And you riding through life, it's not going to work because something's going to knock you off your horse and they're not going to be there. So she said, I don't know how to mount. He said, put your left foot in the stirrup. And you know, she was small and she got her left foot up and she couldn't do anything else because her left foot was so high. And he said, now bound up. She said, I can't. I don't have enough strength. He said, I said bound up meaning give the action to give a boost, a jump. And she said, when I just did an action that I knew I couldn't complete, he put his hands, cupped them under my other foot and he sprung me up. And she said, I mounted not on my ability, but on his ability.
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Come on.
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That's in Christ. But you gotta put your foot in the stirrup and you gotta. You gotta give it a bounce. And Ed used to say, I don't care if you're crippled from the neck down, just move your finger toward God. That's what he's talking about. Mount up. Show God you're ready to leave where you're at. You have to show God you're ready to leave where you're at. He would have never lifted her. That commanding officer would have never lifted her till she got her foot in the stirrup. Because it wouldn't have worked if he would have lifted her without that. She would not have. She had arrived on the other side side of the horse. God is just asking you put your foot in the right direction. Just put your foot in the right direction and then put some spring into it. And you'll find out he'll lift you. But until we put our foot in that direction, he knows we're not ready to move. We're not ready to move until we've taken an action.
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That's right.
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And God will not force you into a movement you don't make. You have to initiate the movement. And he will complete the movement in Christ. And this is what Brother Copeland was doing. He was taking his coins and throwing them in a box. He was putting his foot in the stirrup. And when he did that, God filled the account with over 50. Why? Because he gives seed to the sower. All you have to do is give the action of sowing. And he's the one that puts the seed in that action. He did not wait till he had 50,000. He just put his foot in the stirrup. Just put his foot in the stirrup? Yeah. Praise the Lord. Now let's read Colossians 2. Are you still there? Colossians 2. Let's go back to verse 6. But I want to go to it out of the living Bible, so your device may let you go there. Colossians 2, verse 6, the Living Bible translation. It says this. And now, just as you trusted Christ to save you, trust him too, for each day's problems. What's this mean? Christ isn't just for your salvation. He's for every single day. And when I say salvation, I mean the transferring the translation from the King of darkness to the kingdom of God's dear Son. We know salvation means the total of man's life. But you understand what is referred to here, not just the born again experience. Trust him too, for each day's problems. Look at this. How is he going to be a participant in each day's problems? The next phrase is going to tell you how. Live in vital union with him. Live in vital union. What's it speak of? Fellowship in Christ is about fellowship. That's the highest thing in Christ offers you is fellowship with God. Fellowship with Jesus. Fellowship with the Holy Spirit. Yeah. Live in vital union with Him. Verse 7. Let your roots grow down into him and draw up nourishment from him. Look, you're going to have to draw on who's in you. You have to draw on who's in you. He won't force it. You have to draw up into your situation the one who's in you. How do you do that? With your words, with your thoughts, with your actions. Let your roots grow down into him and draw up nourishment from him. See that you go on growing in the Lord. Growing on who you are in Christ. See that you go on growing in this way and become strong and vigorous in the truth you were taught. Let your lives overflow with joy and thanksgiving for all he has done. Go down to verse nine. For in Christ there is all of God in a human body. Look at verse 10. So you have everything when you have Christ, you have. You have it.
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Yeah.
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Now, this is what lying vanities come to do, to give you something else to believe other than this. I have everything when I have Christ. I have my health when I'm in Christ. I have my provision. I have it because it's in him and I'm in Him. And you can't separate him from me, therefore you can't separate me from everything that is in Him. It's all mine. And we're spending the whole of this life and eternity searching out what all that contains for us, because it's not even entered the heart or mind what God has prepared for those. Amen. Look at this verse. Verse 10. So you have everything when you have Christ. And you are filled with God through your union with Christ. He is the highest ruler. You're in union with the highest ruler. I don't care what any other power tries to threaten you with. They're not the highest. They're lower. They're lower. He is the highest ruler with authority over every other power. So who cares if another power shows up? Who cares? But what you observe is what you're complying with, what you're thinking about, what your attention is on. Amen. Faith does not mean that you ignore what's coming. Faith means you lay your position and words of truth in Christ on what's trying to oppose you. Amen. Now, the reason I was led to go this direction, I was reminded of something God said to me. I can say it now more clearly. I couldn't say it before when I preached this before, but I can now. When my husband went home to be with the Lord in 2013, I began to talk to God. Is it your plan for me to have another airplane? Is it your plan? I know it's my plan, but. And I just had the knowing. He didn't say just the knowing. Someone's going to give you an airplane. That came to me back in 2014. So I said it to the kids. I don't know if I said. I said it to the staff and everybody else. You know, someone's going to give you an airplane. Brother Copeland's faith. There's reasons why different people are brought into our lives. And you better pay attention to the reason and what different divine connections bring to you. Brother Copeland not only brings truth about prosperity and the spirit of faith. He also has grace for airplanes. You better know it. Grace for airplanes. Brother Jesse has grace for vision. Bill Winston has grace for properties. Richard Roberts has graces for the word of knowledge, gifts of healings. So God has brought these men into my life for these different graces to partake of. You better pay attention to what different ones bring and don't decide you can dismiss any of them. Who has God brought for you? Because you have one spiritual father. I understand that dad Hagin is my spiritual father, but he's not here anymore. And I need somebody that has the. That I listen to. No, that's Brother Copeland. That's who God told me, you know, and I don't get concerned about. I'm not telling anybody else. They have to do that. You just have to hear what God says to you. But Brother Copeland has said things, I mean, in his sermons that bring the correction I need. He said things to me privately to correct me. And he's so kind about it that I don't know if he means it to come across as correction. But I took my spank and went on. I mean, he was so interested, so interested in what God has for the future for us. And every time he would come here in January and we would always go out and meet him at the airplane, we would always go see him off. And he would call me sometimes. Nancy, I found an airplane for you. I said, brother Copeland, thank you so much. And he would say, it's this one. And I'd check my spirit, but I knew it wasn't that one. But I appreciate that watchful eye. Thinking of me, thinking of me, thinking of me. Because I couldn't go past what God said to me. Someone's going to give you. But I would not tell that to Brother Copeland. And let me tell you why. Because the generosity of that man is so far reaching that he would have done something to help me. And I would going to manipulate the word of God and drop it in strategic ears. Dishonorable. It's a twisted motive. God can't trust that it's a lie. It's a lie. That's a lying way to operate. So I would not let him know because I knew of his generosity. And some people would have let him know because they knew of generosity. But I'm telling you, God can't trust that motive. So I never told him. And so he would call me. Nancy, you got an airplane yet? No, Brother Copeland, here I am getting my correction. Just take it, Nancy. Just take it. Because you could hear, ah, Nancy. So he gets off the plane one day when he comes here and we pick him up, his first words. Nancy, got your airplane yet, Brother Copeland? The right one's on the way. That's all I could say. And he said, well, see, I'm going to have to get involved in this. I'm thankful. I'm thankful. I needed him involved. So one day he called me and he said, nancy, I wouldn't be surprised within a few days if someone gave you an airplane. And I thought, thank God he said it. Because I said, brother Copeland, years ago, that's what God said to me. But since you said it now, I can tell you that's what God said. I've not been trying to be negligent or slow in moving, but that's just what I had in my heart. And so God told me, here it was 10 years later, 10 years later, 20, 24, and I get a phone call from Sister Carolyn Savelle and says, nancy, I'm sowing our ministry airplane to you. And of course, we have it right now. And it, ooh, Jesus loved me. Jesus is. And this is what he would continually say to me, especially as the time got closer, that it was given. He said, it's my care for you. It's my care for you. So every time I step into that plane, I'm stepping into his care for me. It's tangible. It's tangible care. Amen. So I said all that to say this, that in those 10 years, I would just keep thanking God for the airplane. Just keep thanking God for the airplane. And at one point I said, father, you said, someone's going to give me the airplane, so thank you for them. And so I said, someone is going to give me an airplane. And I kept saying that someone is going to give me an airplane. And then God corrected me in my confession. He said, in your confessing of that, you're focusing on someone. You're looking, who's the someone? You're thinking of the someone.
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Yes, ma'.
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Am. He said, leave out the middleman, because God's going to give to us through the hands of men. And when you start trying to manipulate the hands of men, your faith is on the middleman. He said this. He said, leave out the middleman. I'm telling you that it's going to come through someone, but that's not where your faith is to be attached. He said, I told you I'm going to give you an airplane through someone. Someone is going to give. They wouldn't give it if I Hadn't to give it. That's what he said. They I can't give what I haven't given, he said. So focus on God. Gave me an airplane. He already gave it. He already gave it when he said it is when it's given. When he said it, not when it shows up. When he said it is when it's given. God's word is truer than the word of a judge in a courtroom. And when they say you are sentenced to death, you're a dead man, even though that act hasn't been carried out, you are dead in the eyes of the county or the state, or you are dead when that word is spoken right. And there has to come a pardon to change that. Amen.
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Amen.
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Well, when God says something, it's yours.
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Amen. Praise God.
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That's what Christ puts us. We're dealing with God based on what he said, not on what showed up or what didn't show up. Yet when you're considering the clock and the calendar, you're outside of Christ. Because in Christ, there's no clock, there's no calendar. It's all in His Word. It's in His Word, not in the clock, it's not in the calendar. He said it. That's all I need to know. Did he say it? That's all I need to know. And you can't put your faith on something he didn't say to you. This is really something a lot of believers need to straighten out because they're throwing confessions at something God didn't say to them. God better say it to you. God better say it. Peter evidently had received some teaching on that, because when he's in the boat, he said, bid me come. If it's you, bid me come. Well, two things there he knew evidently. Don't step out till you hear something. Because Jesus said, I only do what I hear, my Father, what I see, my Father do. I only say what I hear My Father say. Meaning, if Jesus didn't move till he heard and saw, who do you think you can move with?
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Come on now. Come on now. Come on.
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You can't move with yourself.
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That's right.
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In him we live and move. You have to hear from him. All the success in life comes from hearing and obeying, hearing and obeying and not shifting from what you heard, not adding to what you heard, not asking the staff if they agree with what you heard. Once I hear from God, I don't ask diddle of anybody. I don't ask why, because it doesn't matter what they say because I'm not moving at what they say. I'm not moving at their agreement, and I'm not moving at their lack of agreement. It's based on what God says. Amen.
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Amen.
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And so God said, leave out the middleman. Leave out the wording. Someone's going to give me. Focus on. It is given. Therefore I have it. Now. Can I just for. Because you don't realize when you say someone's going to. You're looking at avenues. I told God the day my husband died, I said, I will not put my faith on an avenue. I will not. My faith is on you. Why? Because there were avenues changing daily at that time in my life. Daily. And they were mostly removed ones that look to have any kind of promise with them. And I told God I will not put my faith to an avenue. How do you. If you get trouble if you're laid off now? It showed you where your faith was. Your faith was attached to the avenue of your paycheck.
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That's right.
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God will use avenues, but he gets to choose them.
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That's right. Amen.
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You don't choose him and tell him to work within this avenue. And if he doesn't, you're upset with God and you're offended with God. Well, aren't you? So something.
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Come on now. Come on.
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Counseling genius.
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Come on. Wow.
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Faith doesn't focus on what's. Faith doesn't focus on manifestation. It focus on what's given. Faith is attached to what's given. And you know what's given by what God said. Amen. Faith considers that once God has given it, it's a done deal. It's a done deal. It's a done deal. It's a done deal. And this realm will catch up with what he gave. But until he's given it this realm, nothing's changing. So I have to know what he's given so I'll know what to say. Because once I know he's given it, how do I know he's given it? Through what he said. Through what he said in his word. But through. But then there are specifics. God didn't tell you he's going to give you an airplane. God didn't tell Lot. I'm going to make you the Father of many nations. Lot couldn't have claimed that. I don't care how close he lived to Abraham. Not his word. You have to know what is attached to your call, what your assignment is. And don't get around someone else's. And get an appetite for theirs. And Put your confession on what God gave them because they got it, because they heard. You're going to have to hear, and you can't hear just what God did for someone else. You have to hear what God authored for you. Now, the covenant holds the same for everyone. Blessing, Amen in every arena. But there's specifics and you can get around other people who God's given something to and get an appetite for it. And God didn't say it to you. The reason you listen to what God's given to other people is to. So you go, oh, if God will give them what he said to them, God will give me what he said to me. It's not God will give me what he gave them. God will give me what he said to me. Because I heard testimony of God giving them what he said to them. Now get that straight. You can't just hear God gave that to someone else, say, well, if you give to me them, he'll give to me. No, he's showing. I'll give you anything I say to you.
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Amen. Amen.
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Yeah, so we know this time's sake. Can I just read some verses to you? Hebrews 3. Excuse me? Hebrews 4, verse 3. Amplified classic, one of my favorite translations. This is how we've got everything paid off. This is what we stood on to get everything paid off after Ed's homegoing. Because you're sitting in a paid for building right now. Paid for property. Yeah. Hebrews 4, verse 3. The latter part, the last phrase of verse 3 says, and this God said, although his works had been completed and prepared and waiting for all who would believe from the foundation of the world. Now he's talking about the Hebrews. He told them, I have given you a land flows with milk and honey. God completed it and prepared it all for them. It was waiting for their faith to show up. But their faith didn't show up. Why? Because they believed a lie. They believed lying vanities. They believed, giants are so big we can't beat them, you know, we can't whip them. God allowed giants in that land so that the possessions that his people would get would be large.
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Amen.
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Not giants to hold them out. Giants to build it big. So God gave him the biggest in the earth. Cause there are giants there. So if there's a giant there, good. He's taking care of it real good for me. Building it real big for me. Not too big to get off. Keep building, giant. Just keep building. Amen. So everything you need to fulfill the will of God for your life has already been completed. Been prepared. It's waiting. Whether it's buildings, properties, homes, businesses, employees. He's already completed it. So now faith is just talking about God's already completed this in Christ. It's all completed. It's all completed. It's all completed. One from the foundation of the world. Before I ever started sucking air. Before you ever started sucking air, God completed a plan for your home, for your business, for everything. You don't have to to talk him into getting it for you. He already authored it for you. But if you act like I'm trying to get it, you can't have this because you don't understand. He's already made it yours. And you're trying through the old man, the old unrenewed thinking, trying to make it happen. Yeah. John 3, verse 27. Remember how religious leaders trying to cause strife between Jesus and John, John the Baptist? John makes this statement in John, chapter 3, verse 27. John answered and said to them, a man can receive nothing except it be given him from heaven. If heaven's not involved, I don't want it. If heaven didn't give it, I don't want it. I don't care how many men want it. I don't care. Want it. If God didn't give it to me. Because it's going to be a ball and chain on my life. Don't force in a marriage. Don't force. I want this house. I want this house. If God didn't give you that house. But don't settle for a house that's less than what God gave you just because you don't want to use your faith. Get everything God has for you because it's greater than anything you could want for yourself. But don't go after something till you heard that God said, that's yours. And don't turn your hearing over to anyone else. I never turn my hearing over to anyone else. People can prophesy, minister to me, pray for me. I thank God, but until I hear, I don't move. Because I've got to hear what heaven gave me. And I don't trust your ears more than I trust mine. Amen. And no amount of confession can make something yours. If God didn't give it. If you're confessing and confessing and confessing and confessing and something's not happening, go back. Did God give it? Because if he didn't give it, your confession won't bring it. Let me just say this. It won't come with God's blessing on it. You might can force and manipulate and go get a loan and make something happen, but it'll be a ball and chain to you. We must hear from God to know what he's saying to us, right? I just want to read real quick, time's sake. Just make a note of these scriptures. Don't take time to turn there things that the Word tells us has already been given. Romans 12, verse 3. For I say through the grace given unto me. As a preacher, you have to have graces to say things. Otherwise, if you're not graced for it, shut up. Don't say it, don't address it. I knew this when I traveled with my husband. He was ranked higher than me in that anointing in his office. And he could say things I couldn't say. And I couldn't say. Well, he said it. Why can't I say it? Because I'm not graced to say what he was graced to say. You better know what your grace is say, because you got no business giving what you're not grace to give. And Paul said, he said, I say through the grace given unto me. He didn't say I say. He said, I say through the grace. I don't just say anything I hear or anything I want to say to somebody. I have the grace to say something. Amen. That's why you, you can't start a church if God didn't call you to because you're not graced for it. You don't just start a church because you're tired of traveling.
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Come on.
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Because you want to have a regular income. Because it will be a regular outgoing and sure enough will. Second Corinthians, chapter 1, verse 22. Just to make a note of that, who hath already sealed us and given the earnest of his Spirit in our hearts, he's already given the Spirit. You don't have to tarry and wait and pray for God to give you something. No, he's already given. Heaven is already given. It's all about the receiving now. It's all about the receiving. And then first Corinthians 2:12. Now we have received not the Spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is of God, that we might know the things that are freely given to us. Of God. You have to have the Spirit to reveal to you what God freely already gave you. You need the divine teacher, the divine lead, the divine help in the Holy Ghost. And he has been freely given to you so that you would know what God has already freely given to you. Ephesians 5:2. And walk in love, as Christ also loved us and hath given himself for us as an offering, and has given himself a sacrifice to God for a sweet smelling savor. So Jesus is mine. He already gave himself to me. Amen. Second Thessalonians, chapter 2, verse 16. Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us and hath given to us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace, I'll never be dejected again, I'll never be down again. I'll never feel hopeless again. Because he's already given me all the consolation to keep my hope. Amen. 2 Timothy, chapter 1, verse 7. For God has not given us the spirit of fear, but he has given us the spirit of power, love and a sound mind. A sound mind is given you through what? Through the renewing of the mind with the word of God. As you renew your mind, soundness comes into your mind. As you sit under a pastor that's called and anointed for your life, your mind becomes more sound.
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That's right.
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Yeah. Second Peter, chapter three, verse 15. Paul also, according to the wisdom given unto him, hath written unto you. Look at this wisdom given unto him. He wrote out of wisdom given to him. Don't give out counsel. Don't give out advice.
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Come on.
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If you don't have the spirit of counsel given to you. Wisdom people out giving out. They love telling people what they ought to do.
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Oh, my, my. Come on.
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I believe it's in the book of Isaiah that talks about that on Jesus was the spirit of counsel. You have to have the spirit of counsel. And you don't have the wisdom of God for someone else's life unless God gets involved.
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That's right. Amen.
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They don't need your opinion.
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Amen.
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Don't try to go tell somebody in the congregation what they ought to do when they already have a pastor that's already telling them what to do. And they won't listen to that. So they're running around listening to others. No, better stop that mess. You won't have a sound mind doing that. First John 5, 20. And we know that the Son of God is come and hath given us an understanding that we may know him. Ah, see, you have to have something given. You have to have understanding given. Do you even know him? That is true. And to know that we are him, that is true even in his Son, Jesus Christ. This is the true God in eternal life then. Second Peter, chapter one. You might want to turn to this one. This one. This one. Mmm, this is juicy. Second Peter, chapter one and verse two. Second Peter, chapter one, verse two. Grace and peace be multiplied to you through the knowledge of God. If you're not peaceful, you lack strength, something. You don't lack peace. You lack knowledge about the peace that's already yours. You understand that? Jesus said, my peace I leave with you. You got it right. It's already been given. The fruits of the Spirit already been given. Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord, according as his divine power hath given unto us all things. All things what not? All things in the world. All things that pertain to life and godliness. Now, how are we going to walk in? That next phrase tells us. Through the knowledge of him that has called us to glory and virtue, whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises that by these you might be partakers of the divine nature having exceeded. So that means you already have the divine nature it's been given, having escaped the corruption that's in the world through lust. And I love this. 2nd Corinthians, chapter 9, verse 8, 2 Corinthians. Go with me to that one. 2 Corinthians 9, 8. And God is able to make all grace abound toward you. I love this, that you always having. Always having. Always having. Always having what? Always having all. Always having all. Always having all. Always having all sufficiency in all things may abound to every good work. When you know that you have all sufficiency for all good things. You're generous. If you're not generous, you lack knowing that you have all sufficiency in all things. And his suffering. So you can just have more. Yes, he wants you to have more, but so you can be more generous. That's what the sufficiency is for, is to fund others through you. Why? God funds funders. God funds funders. Yeah. Now I love this phrase. Always having, always. I always have, always have. I'll never be without. I don't care what the bank account looks like. I don't care what the reports say. I always have. I always have them. Don't lie and say you don't. Don't lie and say you don't. Because in Christ you have it. Don't say, I don't have money to go to that meeting. If you will say, I'm going to that meeting, the money will show up. But when you look at the thing, say, I don't have money to go. You're staying home.
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That's right. That's right.
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Because it's not money that gives you permission. It's knowing. Always have. I've never gone to the financial office to say, is there enough money in the account for me to make the trip to Brother Copeland's thing and all the cash and, you know, all of us. No, I don't ask. I'm going. And the money's just going to have to get there. Why? Because I always have all. I always have enough to be where God told me where to be. God told me to be there. It's funded. Now, I'm not going to lie and say I can't go. I don't have enough money to go. Praise the lord. Genesis, chapter 15. We'll close with this last bit here. Genesis. I can just quote it to you, you know this. In the same day, the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying, unto thy seed, I have given this land. Look at this. I have. He's telling his seed. Generations to come through Abraham. I've already given them. I've already given the generations yet unborn. I've already given it to them. God doesn't need your body.
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Come on.
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To give you something.
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Hallelujah.
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He gives it before your body ever showed up in this earth. And he says, I have already given them the land. Right. So when God gives you something, anybody who's on it till you show up are your unpaid employees. They're working the land for you. They're building the homes for you. They're building the buildings for you. They're doing it all for you, waiting for you to show up. Amen. Amen. Now, we won't take time to turn there, but there are some boys who lied. Korah, Dathan and Abiram. Oh, brother, those were not the three musketeers. And then I'll read this to you in Numbers, chapter 16 and verse 1. It starts that passage, but I believe it's verse 14 that says, this is what they said to Moses. Moreover, thou hast not brought us into a land that flows with milk and honey, and you have not given us the inheritance of fields and vineyards.
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Wow.
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Speaking a lot. They're lying to the man of God, and they're saying that what God said is a lie. Why did they do that? Because time was passing. Don't let time turn you into a liar. That you speak the truth. And then time passes, and now you speak something different. It turns us into a liar. This is what happened to Korah, Dathan and Byron. Because of the passing of time. They said the man of God was a liar. And so they're basically saying God, who said to Abram, I've given them this land. He's calling Abram a liar. He's calling this big business right here dirty business. They let go of what God said in their thinking. When God says something, don't you let it go. You keep it in your mouth. You build it in your spirit, you keep it in your thought life. You go to bed with it, you wake up with it. It's your job to protect what God said in your thought life and in your mouth. Now, it didn't have to be that way. This is numbers 16, but back in numbers 13. And I'll just read it to you. Verse 32. Caleb stilled the people before Moses said, let us go up at once. Let's go. And they said, no. And the whole congregation said, no. Korah Dathan and Abiram said no. And then when it didn't happen, they said Moses didn't fulfill it. When it was their lack of obedience to what God said, they said, time before, we're not going. And then when they weren't there, then they accused the man of God. How many people accused the Word of not working, accused the faith message not working? When they told God's Word, no. Then they say, this church done feed me. You know I'm getting out of the Passion somewhere. You said, no. And then you're mad at what? Mad at people around you and get mad at God and blame God and blame everybody.
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Amen.
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And they were part. They were part of that company refusing when they were offered the opportunity to go. And they said no.
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Yep. They said no.
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Amen.
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Amen.
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Man, oh, man, we got. We still got. We're not. Are you with me? Till. Will you at least give me till 12? Give me a few more minutes. Because we got to see what happens. Life. Why? So we don't hang out with them. Number 16, verse 26. Numbers 16, verse 26. Because Korah Dathan Abiram started challenging the man of God. Called him a liar. Called God a liar in verse 26. And Moses spake unto the congregation, saying, depart, I pray you, from the tents of these wicked men. Get away from them. Get out of the house. Quit having dinner with them on Friday night. I didn't say be unkind. I said don't. Fellowship, you can be kind, but don't let people speak into your life who don't value the word and don't value the truth. Depart, I pray you, from the tents of these wicked men. He's saying, quit hanging out with them and Touch nothing of theirs, lest you be consumed in all their sins. What's that mean? What you touch will draw you.
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Amen.
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Verse 27. So they get up from the tabernacle of Korah, Dathan and Abiram on every side. And Dathan Abiram came out. So men are leaving, they're getting up and they're walking off from around them. Brother, when the exit takes place, you better check yourself. And Dathan and Byron came out and stood in the door of their tents and their wives and their sons and their little children. And Moses said, hereby you shall know that the Lord has sent me to do these works. What works? To get you in the land. All this that you see. God. God's the one that sent me with this. For I have not done them of mine own mind. This proceeded from God. They didn't just touch Moses, they touched God. 29. If these men die the common death of all men, what's that mean? Die of old age? If these men die the common death of old age, or if they be visited after the visitation of all men, then the Lord's not sent me. But if the Lord make a new thing and the earth open her mouth and swallow them up with all that appertain unto them, and they go down quick into the pit, then you shall understand that these men have provoked the Lord. And it came to pass as he made an end of speaking all these words that the ground clave asunder that was under them. And the earth opened her mouth and swallowed them up, and their houses. And all the men that appertained unto Korah and all their goods, they and all that appertained to them went down into the pit alive. The earth closed upon them, and they perished from among the congregation. And all Israel that were round about them fled at the cry of them. And they said, lest the earth swallow us up also. And there came out a fire from the Lord and consumed the 250 that offered incense. What's that mean? Elijah and Enoch went to heaven alive, but these people went to hell alive. Why? Because they said what God said won't happen. And they challenged God's man and they challenged the Word. They were lying. Why? Because the passing of time change their believing. Wow, wow, wow. What's the word say? He that believeth hath. He that believeth hath. Amen. Praise the Lord. I'm a believer. What's that mean? I have it. I have it at the believing. I don't have it at the manifestation. I have it at the believing. I don't have it at the appearing. I have it at the believing. Why? Because believe. God said it. And once God said it, God gave it. It's mine because he gave it. He gave it. He gave me a house. He gave me that business. He said that it's mine. He gave me that property. If he said it, it's as good as mine and everybody else gonna have to just leave it. Your mind and heart has to agree with what God's already given you. And don't let it change. Once you receive it with your spirit. See, it's receiving it in here. You receive it with your spirit. All this other stuff, all this outer stuff is just a matter of time. It's just an afterthought. It's just an afterthought because once I have it with my spirit, I don't care how long it takes to show up, because I got it. I got it. I got my healing. I got my healing. And here you have to get it first. Receiving is what you do with your spirit, not with your mouth. You have to receive it because people will say, I receive, I receive, I receive. But it doesn't reach here. You receive it here on the inside of you, which means you quit thinking about it. You quit struggling with it. You see, I receive it. I'm not trying to micromanage it mentally and calculate it and measure it. I choose to receive it with my spirit. I receive it with my spirit. And once you receive with your spirit, it's done deals. It's a done deal. Now it's just walking it out day by day. Just walking it out. Just walking it out. Just walking it out. Amen. Amen. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Faith is only dealing with the invisible.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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If it's visible, faith's no more called for. Right?
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Amen.
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Faith only deals with words. Yeah, it's dealing with words. God's words. Words are enough to send us believing. Words are enough to send us into action. Amen. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Well, are you helped today? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Hallelujah. It's not about getting God to give anything. It's about us knowing what happens given and refusing to change our words. Hold fast to that which thou hast. Hold fast to it. What do you have? You have everything he's already given you. Hold fast to it. Don't change it. Because those who didn't discern the Lord's body didn't discern what was already made, theirs says, for this cause, many are weak, many are sickly. Many. Many die prematurely. Why? Because they didn't hold fast to what Jesus already did for them. Well, Jesus has already done everything for us. We're in him. He's in us. We've got to quit thinking and talking as one outside him because that territory is no longer ours. That's the old man.
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That's right.
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We're in Christ. Amen. In Christ. I have it in Christ. I have it in Christ. I have it in Christ. I can do it. I'm not trying to do it me. It's all in Him. God gave you a plan for your life that only he can accomplish through you. You can't accomplish it. He never gave you a plan. Then step back and said, and do it. He gave you a plan so he would show you what he would fulfill through you. Amen. Hallelujah. I mean, we're on to. I'm talking about this ministry. We're on to another property. Did you know that? We're onto another property. We'll tell you more details about it later. Congregation. But this property, we own it. We own it and it's already got built. Buildings. We don't have to build what we were going to build here because it's all built and ready, waiting for us. Waiting for us. Waiting for us. Waiting for us.
B
Yeah.
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All we have to know, did God say we can have it? Did God say we can have it? Did God say we can have it? And I've noticed this about the bigger something is, the quieter he is. In other words, he doesn't always get big and dramatic and flashy. You just kind of go by the piece. Go by the piece. Go by the piece. Go by the piece. Yeah. Yeah. If he has to be really flashy with you, you have to wonder how sensitive we are. Right? God's not training us to follow the flashy and the dramatic. He's training us to be so sensitive to the slightest. So that's why. And sometimes I've noticed this on bigger leadings, on bigger projects, the leading is even more slight. But it's still a leading and it's still safe. Amen. Well, praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. So stand with me if you would, this morning, Father, we thank you for your word.
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Hallelujah.
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This stuff is so fun. It's so, so fun. Why? Because it's already given. It's already given. It's already given. Hallelujah. Just waiting for me to agree with it. Just waiting for me to say the same thing as God. Hallelujah. You don't have to talk God into anything. Not talking God into anything, neither. You. You can't talk hard enough to get talking God into something, right. Hallelujah. Father. We thank you, David. Y' all do whatever y' all do. I like that you said y', all. Which means everyone. That does mean everyone. Praise the Lord. Let's just put up our hands and thank the Lord here real quick. Lift up your voice. Praise the Lord.
B
Hallelujah.
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Hallelujah. Thank you. Lord Jesus grant. You have a song. Anything. You have a song. Something fast. Something, something fast. Y' all help me here.
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I've got something yeah I've got way, way, way more than just what I need Supernatural abundance is all over me so that I could be a blessing to every good work that I see from the way, way, way more than just what I need I've got way, way, way more than just what I need Supernatural abundance is all over me so that I can be a blessing to every good work that I see from the way, way more than just what I need I've got way, way, way more than just what I need Supernatural, supernatural Abundance is all over me so that I can be a blessing to every good work that I see from the way, way, way more than just what I need I've got way, way, way, way more than just what I need Supernatural, supernatural Abundance is all wor so that I so that I can be a blessing to every good work that I see from the way, way, way more than just what I need I've got way, way, way more than just what I need Supernatural, supernatural It's all I can feel Blessing to every good work that I see from the way, way, way more than just what I need I got way, way, way more than just what I need Supernatural, supernatural abundance it's all over me so that I can be a blessing to every good way, way, way more than just what I need I come way, way, way more than just what I need Supernatural abundance is all over me so that I can be a blessing to every good work that I see on the way Way more so that I could be a blessing so that I can be a blessing to every good word that I sing from the way, way, way more than just.
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What I need Hallelujah. Always having all always, always having all sufficiency Always having all sufficiency Always having all sufficiency. Amen. Not trying to get it. I already have all sufficiency. Amen. Hallelujah. We trust you've enjoyed this message. Visit us@dufresneministries.org to learn of our upcoming meetings, share your testimony, become a partner, or visit our online store. This program has been made possible by the friends and partners of dufresne Ministries.
Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Date: June 11, 2025
Speaker: Pastor Nancy Dufresne
Theme: Understanding, possessing, and living out the fullness of what believers have “in Christ,” focusing on truth, faith, and the practical outworking of God’s promises, regardless of circumstances or symptoms.
In this Campmeeting 2025 message, Pastor Nancy Dufresne passionately teaches on the reality that believers already have everything they need "in Christ." She unpacks how faith, speech, and focus on scriptural truth enable Christians to walk in health, abundance, and victory—contrasted against the subtle lies of the enemy, symptoms, and natural circumstances. Drawing from biblical narratives, her own experiences, and powerful testimonies from faith leaders like Kenneth Hagin and Kenneth Copeland, she encourages listeners to root themselves in what God has truly said and to act from the position of already possessing God's promises.
Nancy begins by recalling a teaching from Kenneth Hagin: "People talk about dying to self. He said, 'You don't have to die to self. The old man's dead.' You're talking about not letting the flesh rule you." (00:28)
Practical aspect: Present your body to God by the Spirit and not to the flesh or sin.
The context is speaking truth vs. lies and how it directly impacts health.
“How you use your tongue is going to show up... How you use your tongue, specifically regarding speaking the truth or speaking lies, is going to arrive in our health.” (03:07)
“Symptoms come to try to flip your tongue from truth to lies. Symptoms are nothing but a temptation—to be sick.” (04:31)
The fight of faith is not against the devil; it's a fight to hold on to truth. Even one letter off, as illustrated by Dad Hagin's “get” vs. “got” testimony, changes standing in truth. (09:10)
Various scriptures assert that God has already given believers faith, the Holy Spirit, wisdom, everlasting consolation, a sound mind, the divine nature, and all sufficiency (e.g., 2 Corinthians 9:8, 2 Peter 1:2–4).
“I always have. I always have. I’ll never be without. I don’t care what the bank account looks like. I always have.” (76:50)
On the tongue and believing:
“Symptoms come to try to flip your tongue from truth to lies. Symptoms are nothing but a temptation—to be sick. But we’re not the sick, so we reject that temptation to be sick.” — Nancy Dufresne (04:31)
On subtlety of the enemy:
“One letter in a word changed everything from a lie to a truth… The devil doesn’t need the whole sentence, just one letter.” — Nancy Dufresne (10:00)
On Jonah’s faith in crisis:
“He [Jonah] still would not give up the truth. 'I will not observe a lying vanity, because if I do, there’s no more mercy for me. I can’t receive mercy when I embrace a lie, no matter how tangible, no matter how I feel it.’” — Nancy Dufresne (15:28)
On provision:
“It’s not money that makes you rich. It’s in Christ. He was made Poor that I might be made rich... Because I am the rich, my bills are paid in Christ.” — Nancy Dufresne (18:06, 19:43)
On proper focus for faith:
“Leave out the middleman… Focus on, ‘God gave me an airplane.’ He already gave it. He already gave it when he said it is when it’s given. Not when it shows up.” — Nancy Dufresne (57:27)
On manifestations versus believing:
“Faith doesn’t focus on manifestation. It focuses on what’s given. Faith is attached to what’s given. And you know what’s given by what God said.” — Nancy Dufresne (62:15)
On company and influence:
“Get away from people who regard lying vanities because it will bleed into your [belief system]... You can’t have fellowship with people who easily shift from the truth.” — Nancy Dufresne (30:24)
On acting in faith:
“God will not force you into a movement you don’t make. You have to initiate the movement. And he will complete the movement in Christ.” — Nancy Dufresne (45:54)
On the sufficiency in Christ:
“I always have, always have. I’ll never be without. I don’t care what the bank account looks like. I always have.” — Nancy Dufresne (76:50)
"In Christ I have it. In Christ I can do it. I'm not trying to do it as me—it's all in Him."
— Nancy Dufresne (88:29)
For more messages from Nancy Dufresne and updates on Campmeeting 2025, visit dufresneministries.org.