Word Power | Bill Winston | Holy Ghost Meetings 2025 | Thursday PM

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Podcast Summary: Word Power | Bill Winston | Holy Ghost Meetings 2025 | Thursday PM

Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Date: January 31, 2025
Host: Dufresne Ministries
Guest Speaker: Dr. Bill Winston
Theme: The Power of Faith-Filled Words, Living from the Inside Out, and Fulfilling Your God-Given Destiny

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Overview

In this impactful episode, Dr. Bill Winston, renowned pastor and teacher, shares a vibrant and practical message on the “Word Power”—the transformative ability of faith-filled words in a believer’s life. Addressing a congregation hungry for guidance, Dr. Winston delves into the biblical foundations of faith, the role of the Holy Spirit, and how believers can shape their lives and destinies by aligning their speech and beliefs with God's Word. Through personal stories, scripture readings, and lively audience interactions, he emphasizes that now is the season for the Church to speak with authority, take dominion, and expect divine provision.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Value and Simplicity of Faith

Timestamps: 00:08–12:26

• Faith as Essential: Dr. Winston underscores that faith is the “holder of your destiny.” Without faith, you may never realize God’s plans for your life.
  • Quote: “Faith is absolutely what we need… the devil wants one thing, your faith. If he can get your faith, he can control things.” (00:40)
• Faith is Simple and Powerful: He explains faith doesn’t require age or status, citing the boy with five loaves and two fish, and encourages discerning God’s solutions.
• Faith Must Be Worked: Faith requires activation; you exercise it in seemingly impossible situations, and it will grow.
• The Power of the Spoken Word in Faith:
  • Personal Story: Dr. Winston recounts declaring business success at IBM despite circumstances, illustrating speaking from the spirit and not the mind.
  • Quote: “My head said, that's impossible. My spirit says, that's my job.” (03:34)

2. Divine Destiny, Provision, and the Joseph Principle

Timestamps: 12:26–16:20

• Joseph’s Example: Joseph in Egypt was responsible for the world’s provision during famine. God can raise you up for global impact even from humble, "tribal" beginnings.
• Environment Matters for Your Calling: Sometimes you must leave comfort and kin to enter the environment where your destiny can flourish.
• God Is Still in the Business of Showing Futures: Reference to John 16:13—the Holy Spirit will show believers “things to come.”

3. The Holy Spirit Guides and Reveals

Timestamps: 16:20–19:42

• Showtime Anointing: God prepares and shows His people what’s ahead—just as He revealed Christ’s passion (Mark 10:34).
• Joy Despite Trials: Like Jesus, who endured the cross “for the joy set before Him,” we can walk through trials with confidence when we see God’s outcome.
  • Quote: “If God shows you how you’re coming out, you can go in and go in with joy.” (19:10)

4. The Creative Force of Faith-Filled Words

Timestamps: 19:42–24:10

• Faith-Filled Words Do the Work: Words spoken in faith move mountains (Luke 17:5–6).
• Faith is a Servant for the Impossible: It's meant for outcomes beyond human ability.

5. Living from the Inside Out: Spirit over Circumstance

Timestamps: 24:10–31:01

• No More Limits: True boundaries in life come from the heart/spirit, not external circumstances (Proverbs 4:23).
• Inward Renewal: The inner man is renewed, and believers are called to live from their spirit, not just their intellect (2 Corinthians 4:16–18).
• Examples: Peter walking on water, the daring faith of Bible heroes, and the woman who gave all she had.

6. The Power and Role of the Inner Man

Timestamps: 31:01–42:20

• Dominion from Within: Believers are to come up to a “spiritual, circumstance-dominating life,” not just a “circumstance-driven life.”
• Church’s Covenant Obligation: The Church is called to care for the world and steward creation.
• End Times and Readiness: Signs of the King’s return demand spiritual vigilance and preparation.

7. Fruitfulness by Abiding in Christ

Timestamps: 42:20–46:06

• God’s First Command: “Be fruitful and multiply” (Genesis 1:28) is about supernatural production, not just reproduction.
• Abiding Yields Fruit: Without intimate connection with Jesus, spiritual results are impossible (John 15:4–5).
  • Quote: “Without me, you can do nothing… You didn’t choose me. I chose you.” (43:23)

8. Discernment, Guidance, and Supernatural Solutions

Timestamps: 46:06–50:42

• The Spirit’s Leading: The Word and the Holy Spirit will light your path (Psalm 18:28, Proverbs 20:27).
• Praying in the Spirit: Speaking in tongues and asking for interpretation draws wisdom “out of the well” of your spirit.
• Testimony: Dr. Winston’s mall zoning battle was won by hearing and obeying a prophetic Word, which changed laws supernaturally.

9. The Authority of the Spoken Word: Healing, Provision, and Dominion

Timestamps: 50:42–63:17

• Word Power Illustrated: Jesus rebuked fever with words and says believers can do the same (Luke 4:38–39, Matthew 21:21).
• Speak to Every Challenge: Bills, sickness, any lack—direct your words to them in faith.
  • Quote: “Speak to it. Just make up your mind—I think I'll speak to this thing. Your mind will say, you crazy. Your spirit will say, that's my job.” (54:36)
• Emotional Speech vs. Spiritual Authority: Avoid letting emotions guide your words, as with Jacob and Moses, whose unwise speech had lasting consequences (Genesis 31:31, Numbers 20, Psalm 106:33).

10. The Tongue: Steering Your Destiny

Timestamps: 63:17–68:20

• Words Set the Course: Proverbs 18:20–21—“Death and life are in the power of the tongue.”
• Words Create Increase or Diminish: Your life reflects what you consistently declare.
• Maturity is Revealed in Speech: A spiritually mature person controls their tongue, which then controls their life and circumstances (James 3:2, NIV).
• Object Illustrations: Dr. Winston uses a ship’s rudder and a steering wheel to show how, although change may seem slow, the direction is set by the tongue.

11. Decrees of Increase, Health, and Destiny

Timestamps: 68:20–end

• Corporate Declarations: Dr. Winston boldly declares financial blessing, debt freedom, and divine health over the congregation (Psalm 105:37).
  • Quote: “From now on, I declare that everybody in here will have a minimum of $100,000 in the bank savings... debt free... God has big plans for you.” (67:40)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On faith and daring:
  “You got to be daring, folks… If you have God and you have faith, you’ll take a dare.” (25:38)
• On faith-filled words:
  “The Holy Ghost was only allowed to go as far as I spoke. So watch your mouth.” (06:05)
• On spiritual vision:
  “You’re not supposed to look at the problem, you’re supposed to look at the solution. And if you look at the solution, then your affliction will be light and momentary.” (31:05)
• On speaking with authority:
  “You can make bills dry up… Point at the bills. The bills—I’m talking to you.” (54:36)
• On the power of the tongue:
  “Death and life are in the power of who? The tongue. The tongue, not the devil.” (61:36)

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Important Timestamps & Segments

• Faith over Circumstance: 00:40–03:34
  • Story of speaking in faith during tough business conditions.
• Discernment and the Spirit: 12:26–16:20
  • Joseph and supernatural solutions.
• Word Power in Action: 50:42–54:36
  • Jesus rebukes the fever; we also have authority.
• The Tongue Steers Your Destiny: 63:17–68:20
  • Ship’s rudder object lesson; Proverbs & James on speech.
• Declarations for Destiny & Health: 68:20–end
  • Dr. Winston pronounces blessing and prosperity.

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Final Blessing and Charge

Dr. Winston closes with a strong blessing, affirming God’s big plans for the church and every listener. He encourages listeners to always choose life with their words, walk by faith, and take up their place in the coming move of God.

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Summary Note:
This energy-filled episode offers both the revelation and practical tools to “steer your ship” by your words, live from spiritual authority, and expect supernatural increase and breakthrough in every area through the power of faith-filled speech. It is a must-listen (and must-read!) for those seeking to mature in faith and take hold of their God-given destiny.

Transcript

[A]

Hi, I'm Nancy Dufresne. Welcome to our podcast channel. We know you'll be blessed by today's message.

[B]

I'm starting to love this church. I mean, your pastor is somebody special. She really is. I'm telling you, there's an anointing that's here, and this is really a beautiful thing. Cause I go somewhere, and sometimes you wonder where the anointing is. Yes, sir. Well, thank you. I brought Patrice with me, who is the one who kind of helps me with my lessons, and Derek and Minister Derek. He's kind of coordinated everything. He made sure we got here. I'm going to Arizona in the morning, and since I was coming out this far, I said, why don't I come on out? Amen. Well, let's see. Just a short time ago, me and the devil had a tussle, and I won. But thank you for receiving us. Hallelujah. Well, I don't want to keep you too late. There's. There's a word I want to give to you. Okay. The. I went down and preached at Brother Copeland's here a couple of days ago, whenever it was. And I preached on Showtime in California. Y' all ought to know something about Showtime. Okay, But I want to start here. Start talking about just faith and that you got to have it. I found out that when you do have it, you know, you make sure that you don't hang around certain places and let them drain you of your faith, you know, because that. That can happen. A witness of it. Devil wants one thing, your faith. And if he can get your faith, he can control things and so forth and so on. So faith is absolutely what we need. Faith can be, you know, this God kind of faith can be simplistic, and it can be powerful. And see where over there in Matthew or Mark. Pardon me, chapter four and verse 35 through 41, this is Jesus stopping a storm. And he used, apparently, faith to do it. Because when the disciples cried out, you know, we're going to die, Jesus got up, rebuked. It, said to the wind, peace, be still. And the storm, the waves, peace, be still. And everything ceased. And he said to them, where is your faith? How come it is that you don't have any faith? And so, notice faith is the holder of your destiny, because it's going to the other side. So faith really enables you to get to your destiny. So if you don't have any faith, you can be assured that a lot of things God has planned for your life, perhaps you've never experienced before. And we Want to get you with some faith because we want you to stand before Jesus. And he said, well done, well done and not well, well done. So it's going to be faith and it's simple. He was a little boy, you know, they were. Jesus told the disciples, don't send them home, feed them. And the disciples said, well wait a minute says 200 penny worth of bread is not sufficient, that everyone would take a little. And he said, there's a lad here, he's got two fish and five barley loaves. But what is that amongst the. See how he discerned the solution. And much of the solutions of God have to be discerned. It has to be discerned. I'm telling you. A lot of times people sow a seed and say, well I ain't getting a harvest back. You did get it, but you didn't discern. Just went right past you, somebody got you in an argument and it passed right by, you see what I'm saying? That's why sometimes, you know, and once a year like January maybe, going a little fast and you know, see what God wants you to do that year and so forth and so on. But it's simple. The little boy offered up his lunch box because I think he listened to Jesus and I think he developed some faith, I really do. Because faith, you know, you don't have to be a certain age to have faith. Faith comes by hearing, hearing and hearing by what the word of God. And you can have, I think in these last days some of these young folks in children's church going to be laying hands on the sick and they're going to recover. Really, I'm telling you. So it's both powerful and very simple when we look at faith also faith is needed, needs to be put to work. Faith needs a job. Faith grows when it's put to work. When you have the impossible and put faith on it, faith grows. Here you've got things like in my case I was working for a company called IBM and I some people were, you know, we were bad economy at that time and I was a salesman for computers and in the branch office things were pretty bad. And somebody called me in, my sister and she said, how are you doing this month, brother? I said well you called me back at 5 o', clock, I have so much business I can't put it on the books. Hung up, you know. Now that didn't come out of my head because my head doesn't know that much that came out of my spirit. Are you following what I'm saying, see, my head said, that's impossible. My spirit says, that's my job. Say that with me. That's my job. That's what your spirit is saying. When you come up on something that is really tough, difficult, your head can't handle it. Your head, like Charles Capture says, it's a goal setter. That's all it is. The faith comes out of your heart. So your heart says, that's my job. So I said that and I said, came out of my spirit because my head didn't know that much. And so the next thing that happened is people, my marketing reps are calling in and that's at 12 noon. And they start calling in, kept calling each one, hey, Bill, I just got a big order for this and that. I said, bring it in, bring it on in. So at five o', clock, I was over at the administration office and I was booking business. I booked enough for me. I booked enough for Leo. I booked enough for Bill Adrian. I booked enough for Dave Meeker. You see, God can use one department to meet the budget of the whole company. I'll say that again. God can use one department to meet the budget of the whole company. The budget's our whole office. And look, and the only reason I stopped booking it is because I said it. Call me back at 5 o'. Clock, I'll have so much business I can't put it on the books. I cannot put it on the books. So the Holy Ghost was only allowed to go as far as I spoke. So watch your mouth. Now turn over this side. Watch your mouth. The next thing, it's kind of powerful. We have a covenant obligation to provide for the world and to keep this world. If you look at the story of Joseph, let's see, one time you had a little person, a young girl who came and read for me. I sense there's somebody over here. Either it's a little child or somebody with a child mind. I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. But somebody over here. Come on. Whoever it is, you got your. Now get your iPad or something, your phone or something like that, come on up right here and give them the microphone. Praise God and they're going to read for me. Okay, over this side. Let's come stand right here. All right, come on. I'm going to pay. I'm going to pay. All right, you may go home, Rich. All right, very good. Look at Genesis, chapter 41, verse 55. Oh, you got a Bible board. Let me tell you, I haven't Seen a Bible in years. People don't have a Bible anymore. Oh, man. It's technical, technological. Okay. Genesis, chapter 41 and verses 55 through 57. Now this is Joseph, all right? And as you know, Joseph had a dream. And he had a dream that he was a man, he was raised up, and he is the one that his brothers came and worshiped before him, you know, bowed down before him, so forth and so on. And as you know, Joseph had to go through quite an ordeal before that came about. So God can give you a dream and. But you might have to go through something. But as long as you keep the dream in mind. Come on. Long as you keep the dream in mind, God will give you the grace to go through to your place, you see? So read that, please.

[C]

And when the. Sorry. And when all the land of Egypt was famished, the people cried to Pharaoh for bread. And Pharaoh said unto all the Egyptians, go unto Joseph what he saith to you do. And the famine was over all the face of the earth. And Joseph opened all the storehouses and sold unto the Egyptians. And the famine waxed sore in the land of Egypt. All the countries came unto Egypt to Joseph, for to buy corn. Because that was the. Because that the famine was so sore in all the lands.

[B]

All right, so everybody came to Joseph to get some food because Joseph was responsible for the world. He was responsible to make sure that everybody had something because there was a famine in the land and we can really get a hold of God's supply and we can have it as provision for people who don't have much. Come on, somebody. You know, I'm writing a book right now on manifesting the billion flow poor. That book, man. Okay, so that it's done. I'm just now tightening it up a little bit. But I'm telling you that today my communications director was reading it. Well, I'm telling you, I said, man, that's good. You know what I mean? Sometimes you say about your own stuff, that's good. Well, we know that the Holy Ghost is the one that really authored it. Well, I'm saying here that these people all over the world came to Egypt, came to Joseph to get something to eat. And they didn't have anything because the famine was all over. So through that, God raised Joseph up. Joseph, he was. He was an international figure in a tribal setting. That's what he was. And a lot of people are tribal. I guarantee you God will give you an assignment like Abraham. He called Abraham out of Ur of the Chaldees. He said, come out from your kindred and kind. Why? Because they're an anointing that won't actually manifest and take place to produce what God has placed in you until you in the right environment, that's conducive. And we like to be around kinfolk. This last election probably separated y', all, but. But this. He was an international figure. God gave him a big dream. And that's what I preached on at Brother Copeland's, talking about. God will show you in things to come. Over in John. John, chapter 16, verse 13. Let's read. Read over there. John 16 and 13. Now, we gonna have to. You have to speak up and let them hear you loud. Amen. You know, in California, you know. All right. Okay. Yeah, John. Okay, John. Oh, no, no, you gone too far. Got it. Okay, John. Chapter 16 and verse 13. Okay.

[C]

When he, the Spirit of truth is come, he will guide you into all truth. For he shall not speak of himself. But whatsoever he shall hear, that that shall come, he speak. And he will show you things to come.

[B]

Okay? How be it? When he, the Spirit of truth has come, he will guide you into what all truth. He shall not speak of himself. But whatsoever he hears, that shall he speak. And he will. Showtime. Showtime. Come on, now. He'll show you things to come. Look that over there at Mark, chapter 10 and verse 34. I know you want to put that microphone down. Put it down here. Don't put it on my money. Put it right down here. There you go. Until you get that scripture. Okay, mark. Yeah. Chapter 10, verse 34. Mark. Chapter 10, verse 34. Now, I'm saying that he'll show you things to come. The Holy Ghost knows what's happening, and he's read the newspaper in heaven, you know what I'm saying? And I don't know whether you know it or not, but you're in the news. Yeah. You're in the book. All right, go ahead.

[C]

And they shall mock him and scorch him. They shall spit upon him and they shall kill him. And on the third day, he shall rise again.

[B]

No. No, what? They shall mark him. They shall spit on him, you know, and kill him. And the third day, what's going to happen? He shall rise again. Now, wait a minute. How does he know all that? See? Showtime. God will show you things to come. Isn't that something? The power of the Holy Spirit. Now, when. Hebrews, chapter 12, verse 2. See, when. When you go through things, you know, I told him down there in Copeland, I said, listen, if I'm going to go in the ring and fight Iron Mike Tyson, you know, and, well, you know, Iron Mike, he's kind of crazy. He bites things, you know, and no, I shouldn't say that because he's different. He's delivered now in Jesus name. He doesn't, you know, not need people. So as a result of that, and I got to go three rounds, but I know that I'm going to get this $40 million purse when I come out. And, you know, my thought first is whether I'm going to come out, you know, whether Mike, you know, and he'll just. He beat you and eat you. So what happened was, but if God shows you how you're coming out, you can go in and go in with joy. Read that.

[C]

Looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, who, for the joy that was set before him, endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

[B]

He went to the cross for joy. He saw God's children coming home. Boy, I'm telling you, it was all worth it. And so I'm saying to you many times, let's say husband and wife going through something. Ask the Holy Spirit, show me the end. Wow. Come on now. Because you lose your patience and you lose. You know what I'm saying? But you can go through it with joy when you know that your company is coming out of debt. You follow what I'm saying? Go through it with joy. All right, so that's the second one, the third one. Introduction. Faith. Yeah. Faith filled words. Okay. Faith filled words do the work. They do the work. And if you look at Luke, Luke chapter 17. And look at verse. Yeah, Luke chapter 17. And look at verse. Let's start at verse five. Okay? But faith filled words do the work. Over in Micah, Micah chapter 5 and verse 2, Micah prophesied that the child was going to be born in Bethlehem. But if you look at Luke chapter two, that's when Caesar Augustus, he called for the whole world to be taxed. And so he said, you have to go back to your hometown to pay tax. So Joseph had to take Mary back to Bethlehem. And notice Caesar Augustus might have thought he thought of that, but it was God working his plan to get. Come on. Jesus back, Mary back to the place where Jesus was the be born. I'll read that.

[C]

And the apostle sent unto the Lord, increase our faith, Lord, increase my faith.

[B]

Boy, I wish I could just ask the Lord that, and he'd increase my faith. But he tells them about increase. Next verse, please.

[C]

And the Lord Said, if ye had faith as a grain of a mustard seed, ye might say unto this sycamine tree, be thou plucked up from the root, and be thou planted in the sea. And it should obey you.

[B]

It should. Or in a linear Greek says, it would obey you. It would. What would? The tree or your faith. She got it. Look at the next verse.

[C]

But which of you having a servant plowing or feeding?

[B]

Which of you having a servant plowing? Faith is a servant, the believer. Isn't that something? And it'll do the impossible. Don't put it on the possible. The possible you can do yourself. Faith is for the impossible. That's right, sir. Come on. You need. You. You need some money by Friday. And you don't know how in the world you're going to get it. Your spirit says, that's my job. Come on, folks, that's my job. Glory to God. Okay, let's look at that. Section 1. Living from the Inside Out. Now, I had another title, too. No More Limits. All right. Living from the Inside Out. Okay. You have done your part. Okay, Here's a hundred dollars for you. Okay? Thank you very much. Take a bow. Take a bow. All right. Okay.

[C]

All right.

[B]

All right. Living from the Inside Out. No More Limits. I think one of the verses I look at is Peter. And Peter, you know, he did a lot of talking. And one time he told Jesus, you don't need to go to the cross. But Jesus said, I rebuke you. Satan. Satan talking to him. So Peter saw Jesus coming to him in Matthew 14:28. He saw Jesus coming to him walking the water. And he said this, if that be, you bid me to come to you on the water. He didn't leave anything out. What did Jesus say? Come. He couldn't help but say, come. That's him. Am I right about it? And Warren, Peter got out of that boat. Now, I could hear the other disciples. Get back in here, you fool.

[A]

Get out of here.

[B]

You see what I'm saying? But Peter was daring. And that's one thing you've got to have to live for. God, you got to be daring, folks. The woman who gave two mites, daring. You see what I'm saying? When they broke a hole in the man's roof, that wasn't even their house. They tore a hole. Am I right about it? Now, if I'm not telling the truth, tell me. But I saw in the Bible where they tore a hole in that roof. Boy, some people came and tore a hole in my roof. I said, man, I don't care whether you want to heal this boy or not? But to a hole in the roof and. But daring, David. Daring, daring. You got to be daring to turn down Saul's armor. Yes, you do. Got to be daring. Yes, sir. That's right. People want to hold everything real close to the vest, you know? No, not with God. If you have God and you have faith, you'll take a dare. Praise God. Amen. Can I get somebody else on this side? Right over here. Okay. Come on. All right. Now, if you don't have a Bible, don't. Don't be concerned about it. Just bring your iPad or compute your cell phone or whatever. Okay. All right, this. Let's go to a couple of verses here. I know you can put them on. On the screen, but I like to do it like this. All right. Have a microphone. Okay. Oh, it's here. Okay. All right. Don't stand too close. You ready? You ready, boy? There we are. Okay. No, come back. Don't do it. All right. Okay. Proverbs. Proverbs, chapter 4, verse 23. And that's why I started with this Scripture and talking about this idea about no more limits and living from the inside out. Now watch this verse. Proverbs, chapter 4, verse 23. That's right.

[A]

Keep thy heart with all diligence, for out of it are the issues of life.

[B]

Give me that Baptist voice. Now. Let it. Come on. Let it. Come on, let it. I know you got it. I know you got it. I know you. Sing. I know you, girl. I know you. I know what you got. Okay, let's go. A little bit louder. A little bit more volume.

[A]

Keep thy heart with all diligence, for out of it are the issues of life.

[B]

Issues of life. The heart, the spirit, man issues. Boundaries of your life. The boundaries of your life come out of here and not here. The boundaries. See, this is your spirit living from the inside out. Okay, go to second Corinthians, chapter four. That's right. And look at verse 16 and just read 16 through 18, second things, chapter four. So you're going to live from what? The inside out. See? And realize once you get born again, your spirit comes alive to God. And your spirit believes everything that's in the Word. And so now, when you talk, talk from your spirit. Don't talk from your head. You follow what I'm saying? Because your mind may not have been renewed. And so. But your spirit says, what? That's my job. That's my job. Come on, come on. Don't let me say that again. Your spirit says what? That's My job. That's my job. Go ahead. That's second green. Second Corinthians, chapter 4, verse 16, 17, 18.

[A]

For which cause we faint not. But though our outward man perisheth, yet the inward man is renewed day by day.

[B]

Two men, outward and inward, and this inward man is renewed. What? Day by day? Keep going, please.

[A]

For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory while we look not at the things.

[B]

While we what? Look not at the things. Your afflictions will be light, momentary if you look not at the things which are seen. But it's the things which are. I'm not taking over, but just hold up. So things that are seen are what? Things that are seen are what? Temporary. Which means subject to what? Change. But the things that are unseen are what? Eternal. So you're not supposed to look at the problem, you're supposed to look at the solution. And if you look at the solution, then your affliction will be light and momentary. Oh, I'm telling you, I've had this problem. I've had this problem for about three months. I'm telling you, this thing won't go. Stop looking at it. Come on. Stop looking at it. Now, you got to do that. That's a discipline. But your inner man can look, can see, can hear you. Remember that time Jesus tells the story about this rich man who sat at the gate and this, the poor man who sat at the gate and the rich man who, you know, sat on his veranda every day drinking mint juleps. And the poor beggar was begging for something. He wouldn't give him anything. But both of them died, and they went to both. The poor man went to the upper region of Sheol, which is where they abide, who were waiting for the coming of the Messiah. And then the rich man went to hell. Now, this is the Bible. It talks about hell. Any old doubt. Hell. It's in the Bible right there. And so it said, the rich man cried. So he's got emotions now, understand, his body is up there, six feet under, but he is in hell. So he's the inner man. And he went to hell. And he cried, father Abraham, send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue. Now notice he knows people. He has a finger, and his finger has got a tip. And that he's some water somewhere. And that he can dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my what? Now the body is up there six Feet under. But his spiritual body got a tongue. Now you gotta get that. Folks, the only reason this jacket is taking this form is because this fine body is inside. Come on. Come on. Don't. Don't do me like that. Don't do it. Say amen. Come on. All right, you see, this body was meant to cover you. Cover you, not your spirit. You. You get that you can walk on water because that kind of power flows out of your inner man. Y' all got what I'm saying? So what we need to do is we need to take care of that inner man. We need to feed him the word of God. Come on. So forth and act in faith. Come on and get that inner man taken care of. Because if you don't, that inner man is weak. And all the things that God promised you can't be attained because that inner man doesn't have any strength. Okay, so let's look at another one. God is no longer coming down to our circumstance driven life. But he now insists that you come up to your spiritual circumstance dominating life. You with me? So you have been made to have what dominion? And now it's time to have it. Boy, I saw that fire out here. I said, man, why don't some of them believe for rain? I remember a record that says I can make it rain whenever I wanted to. I think that was a temptation. But anyway, that was. But I'm saying something. Elijah, he made it rain. Rain could have put the fire out. And you are sent here with a covenant obligation to take care of this planet. Believe me. Now, the church is. We're sent here for a small period of time compared to all the time. And watch this. And the kingdom is in us. And the end of this dispensation is coming. That's why it seems like the days and months are getting shorter. They are. It's coming closer. That's why you see things that are wrong all of a sudden start turning around to be right now. I'm saying this because as the kingdom comes, everything changes. Everything changes when the kingdom comes. So as it comes closer and closer, everything. I was over in India and I was trying to get a signal out in the computer and I couldn't get a signal. So I called on to the desk and asked them what, you know. I couldn't get a signal. They said, oh, they're sweeping the airwaves. I said, sweeping the airways. I said, what's up with that? He said, the President of the United States is paying us a visit. He's coming over to. At that Time, Hyderabad. He's coming over to India. I said, man, now he's coming. And I saw him cleaning up outside, and they're sweeping the airwaves now. Maybe that's the same as the King is coming. Wow. See, When winter is coming, the leaves begin to fall off the trees. You don't know exactly when, but something is about to happen. So whatever you gonna do, you better start doing. Come on. I'm not kidding. So I know it's coming. He said, this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world, for witness unto all nations, and then shall the income. That's 14 something. And so I'm just saying the king is coming. Jesus is coming. When he came the first time, what came with him? What came? Angels singing, you know, sang songs of praise in the atmosphere and all that. Am I right about it? So they kind of. You know, when you. When I was young, my mama wouldn't even let me go in the front room. You know, y' all don't call it front room now. You call it the living room. But she wouldn't even let me go in there. She said, no, stay out of there. We got company coming. I said, man, you got plastic on the furniture. All right, but anyway, so. So anyway, so as we look at that, we see that God is now not coming down anymore. He said, now I want you to come up and. And that's what he wants you to do. Because he said the whole earth is waiting for the. What? Manifestation. Come on. Of the Son of God. You're waiting for the mature offspring, waiting for you to grow up. He said foxes have holes, birds of the hair have nests, but the Son of man has no place to lay his head. And see, people think that means, you know, on a bed, but it said that Jesus laid his head on a pillow on the boat going to the other side. So we know it's not talking about that, but. No, he's talking about this. The Son of Man can't come back yet because he has no place to lay his head. The body has not grown up sufficiently that the head can come back in place. He is the head of the church. Let me see where I am. Okay. What? Okay, be fruitful. All right, turn to. Let me see where I can turn. Well, let me just see it. The thing that we have to learn to do is one of the biggest reasons for poverty is the absence of self production. All right, Genesis, chapter one and verse 28. Then we're going to go to John, chapter 15, verse four and five, Genesis one. 28. All right, we'll let you read that. Okay. All right.

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And God blessed them and said unto them, be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth and subdue it, and have dominion over the fish of the sea and of the fowl of the air and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

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Now, be what? Fruitful. Now go to John, chapter 15 and look at verses 4 and 5. This is for all of us now. We're growing up. Say, I'm growing up. Be fruitful. Okay. Now, we. That is more than having children. But be fruitful. Okay, Go ahead. All right. John, chapter 15, verses 4 and 5. Okay. All right.

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Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine, no more can ye, except ye, abide in me. I am the vine and ye are the branches. He that abideth in me and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit. For without me, ye can do nothing.

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Without what?

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Me.

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Me. You can do nothing. Verse 16. Please, please. Without me, you can do nothing.

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Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you.

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You didn't choose me. I chose you. Well, when I found the lord. You didn't find the lord. He wasn't lost. He wasn't lost. You was lost. Lost is a goose in a fog. You were lost. If found you and got you born again. And now you have the ability to be fruitful. It's a production that you can produce supernaturally by faith. Answers produce. Supplies. You can produce some things. This is something you see your spirit while you sleep. Your spirit is at work. It never sleeps. So if you have an answer, you don't know the answer to something, you, spirit, you can put it in your spirit. Charge your spirit and it will find the answer out because it's communing with the holy ghost. Psalm, chapter 18 and 28. Psalm 18:28. All right. And look at this. This. This is what God promises you. Okay? Psalm 18:28. Okay. Go ahead and look on the board. Hallelujah. Okay. All right.

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For thou will light my candle. The Lord my God wouldn't lighten my darkness.

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Okay. He will do what? He will light your candle. So if you're in the dark on something, what can you be guaranteed of? He'll light your candle. Now look at Proverbs, chapter 20 and 27. Proverbs, chapter 20 and 27. Now, all this, you know, I'm just giving you guidance. I'm just opening up what you already know. Go ahead.

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The spirit of man is the candle of the Lord, searching all the inward parts of the belly.

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The spirit of the man. We just talk about your spirit now. Because your body is six feet up. Not you, but you. 120. Okay. Is a candle of the Lord, searching all the inward parts of the body. God will lead. He will use your spirit to guide you. He'll tell you what to do. We bought a shopping mall. Put it up there. We bought a shopping mall. And after we bought the shopping mall, they quickly formed in the village and told us that you cannot have services in there. We're changing the zoning. Now I'm stuck. Now what do I do? All right, first I have to remember the fact that God will enlighten my darkness. All right? And so I have to remember Proverbs 20 and verse 5. I have to remember that God's going to help me. Now, I'm not here by myself. I'm not going to work by myself. God is my help. I look to the hills from what this cometh. My help. My help comes from who? The Lord. He wants me to call on him.

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Counsel in the heart of man is like deep water. But a man of understanding will draw it out.

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Wow. A man of understanding will what? Draw it out. See, it's like it's down in a well. And I dip the bucket in the well and then draw it back up speaking in tongues. And then look at First Corinthians, chapter 14 and verse 13 and 14. I'm not taking you to too many scriptures. I'm telling you the secret of how you can not let God come down anymore to that circumstance driven level and come bring you up to the fact of where you can take care of any situation. All right? You got it. Read.

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Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue. Pray that he may interpret.

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Pray that he may interpret. So I said, then I interpreted. And next thing the interpretation said, go read Romans, chapter 13, verse 1 through 4 to the mayor. Whoa, now that's out of my box. You follow what I'm saying? That is not normal thing to do in a situation like that. But I read it to the mayor and the mayor started trembling. Why? Because this Bible works vengeance also. That's not revenge. God doesn't have that. That's normal. But it's vengeance. It's God judging somebody who is out of line. And I'm telling you, they might try to stop you moving forward in what God assigned you to do. But you can just spend a little time. Come on now. And God will Give you the answer. You say the answer once. I said the answer. Guess what? That night we were supposed to be in there. When do you think we got in there? That night she said, I'll keep the police away and you can go on in there. Watch this. And after we went in there and celebrated, God changed the law. The books down at the courthouse got changed supernaturally. Come on now. Come on, come on, come on. This is the right church. I know this is the right church. That's what I'm talking about. All right, now I think I'm going on to the last part. Okay, now this is word power. Oh, Lord, this is going to be short. I know. You got to go home. Chicken in the oven. Now watch this. Word power. Word power. Now I want you to look at this and you can read this one, too. I won't go to anybody else. Go to Luke, Luke, chapter four, verse 38 and 30, 39. Okay. All right, now watch this. Watch this. This is word power. Okay, go ahead.

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And he rose out of the synagogue and entered into Simon's house. And Simon's wife's mother was taken with great fever.

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And now Simon's wife's mother, that same as mother in law, Is stricken with a fever. Keep going.

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And they besought him for her. And he stood over her and rebuked the fever. And it left her.

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And it left her. And then she got up and picked up something to eat. Right away. The wait is over. Word power. He rebuked the what? Fever. Now, if he can talk to your body that way, and he said what he did, you can do, too. Didn't he say that? Read Matthew 21. 21, just quickly. I'm just saying, if you can rebuke the fever with words, then why can't you rebuke high blood pressure with words? Come on now, see this? You'd be surprised what's happening that the enemy is causing. He's causing a lot of stuff, folks. He really is. It's not. He hates this country because we are one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. He hates it. We are serving God. He hates us and he hates Israel. And so we got to remember that, you know, there are things happening in the atmosphere of things and mind control things that he's doing, you know, that deception and so forth and so on. This one lady, I read account, she died and so forth. And they did an autopsy, see, but she died of cancer. And they went in a body and no cancer was found. Now, what's up with that you are coming to a time that you can't trust nothing but the Word. You can't trust nothing but the Word. See you going into Canaan now, and he's preparing you to go. This is the finest place. This is where God's promised us we would have. We would live. And in that, going into that place, he is saying, wait a minute. I got to get you ready to go in there. Read what you got. What do you have?

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Matthew 21.

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21. 21. This is Jesus. Say side by side. We are side by side with Jesus.

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Yes.

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What he can do, we can do, too. Yes, sir, after the Gospels. He doesn't call himself the only begotten son of God. He calls himself the firstborn of many brethren. Come on. You're the second born. You're the third born. You're the fourth born. We're side by side with him. Go ahead and read it.

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Jesus answered and said unto them, verily I say unto you, if ye have faith and doubt not, you shall not only do this, which is done to the fig tree, but also, if ye shall say unto the mountain, be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea. It shall be done.

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Now he's talking about you.

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Yes, he is.

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He's talking about what he did. You can do.

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Yes.

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Yes, sir. That he was functioning. A man that had God in him. He couldn't go beyond that. So I'm saying to you right now, speak to it. Speak to it. Just make up your mind. I think I'll speak to this thing. Now, when you do that, your mind goes, say, you crazy. And your spirit's going to say, what? That's my job. Every time. You can make bills dry up. I better say that again. You're gonna make. You can make bills dry, you know, so just keep that finger right. Point at the bill, don't point at your wife. Point at the bills. The bills. I'm talking to you. Okay. But yeah, yeah, look at. Look at Genesis, chapter 31. I'm almost done. You get. You need all this. I came to bring every bit of it because I'm telling you, some things about to happen. God sends somebody to equip you before things happen. Genesis 31, 31. You got her? All right. 31, 31.

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And Jacob answered and said unto Laban, because I was afraid, for I said, pre adventure, thou wouldst take by force thy daughters from me.

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Keep reading. Come on. Keep going.

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With whomsoever thou findest thy gods, let him not live.

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Whosoever you find your God, let him not Live now. This is Jacob Tet. He's. He's getting emotional. And he said that but he didn't know his wife had what hidden the gods under her saddle. But he said, who ever has those gods let him not live. He went too far. And sometimes we go too far. And the reason why we go too far is because Satan whispers in our ear and we're in an emotional time. And you're not supposed to get emotional.

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Yes, sir.

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You have emotions, but they follow. You know, you don't put them before your whatever.

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Yes.

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So I'm saying now learn to speak to pain. Learn to come on now. And this is where we are going as a church. Moses was supposed to speak to that rock number 20. Did he speak to it? What did he do? He struck it. Look at Psalm chapter 33, chapter 106, verse 33, please. He's. He. He's supposed to speak to it. But he didn't. And he did the wrong thing. And what happened? God said, moses for this you're not going over. I have just canceled your assignment. I have just canceled it. I put up with this stuff long enough. Read it.

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Because they provoked his spirit so that he spake unadvisedly with his lips.

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See? They provoked his spirit to speak ill advisedly with his lips. And I'm saying, don't let nobody get you in an emotional tirade.

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Yes, sir.

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Yes, sir. You just step back for a minute and just cool down. Because when you get emotional like that, that's the same thing that Job's wife said. Why don't you just curse God and die? You sound like a fool. Okay, but you know what he said? But you see, it's words. It's words, folks. Words made the planet Words run it. Words were meant to manage it. But the world doesn't have words. They got bad words. They got words from the kingdom of darkness. But you've got words from the kingdom of light. You got words in your tool bag. Look in there and see. Let me see what words I should pull out for this man. You got it? God got a word for every situation you are in. And it's time for you to look in your bag, pull out a word and nail the devil to the. You know, to the wall. Because he's trying to make you fly off at the mouth and say something you shouldn't say. Don't do it. Don't do it. Big increase. All right, here's the last one for you. Now. Let me have. Let me have his wheel. And I want to show you something. Look at Proverbs, chapter 18, 20 and 21. All right. Very good. Y' all didn't know I brought a little. Little something with me. She's reading. Go ahead.

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Death and life are in the power of the tongue.

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No, that's. That's. That's the last verse. Read verse 20 and 21. Okay. 21st, 20, 20 and 21. Proverbs, chapter 18, verse 20 and 21.

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Yes, sir. A man's belly shall be satisfied with the fruit of his mouth.

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Shall be satisfied with the fruit of his mouth. See, he's worked all his life and ends up. And now he's, you know, he's. He's got Medicaid and so forth, and he's no real savings in the bank, and so been a good worker, but his mouth kept taking away what he got. He didn't speak. Increase with his lips. And so what happened? What next?

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And with the increase of his lips shall he be filled.

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Shall he be filled. The increase of your lips. You know, lips say. Lips say. Lips again. We don't.

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Death and life are in the power of the tongue.

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Death and life are in the power of who? The tongue. The tongue, not the devil. Amen.

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Amen.

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Keep going.

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And they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.

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You eat the fruit thereof, you'll get what you say.

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Yes.

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James, chapter three, last part, about to go. James, chapter three. And verse. And verse one, verse two. All right. James, chapter three, verse two. Read.

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For in many things, we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man. And able also to bridle the whole body.

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Okay? That's where you can tell if a person's mature by their speech. A Christian speech will always expose him. Now, look at. Look at that. In the niv. Translation, please. Same verse. All right. Okay. Watch what it says here. Okay. And they put it on the board yet? Okay, come on, we got to go here. James, chapter three, and verse two in the niv. If you got the niv. No. Okay, it's on the board.

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For in many things, we offend all. If any man offend not in word.

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The same.

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The same is a perfect, perfect man.

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And able. Come on.

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And able also to bridle the whole body.

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Your body was meant to obey you because your spirit inside is in control. Not your body. That body lusteth against the spirit. It wants to go to the gambling house. And the spirit want to go to church. Niv. Read it.

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Indeed, we all make many mistakes. For if we control our tongues.

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Read it. Clearly and just read it plain. That's right. Take it down. Okay, go.

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Indeed, we all make many mistakes. For if we could control our tongues, we would be perfect and can also control ourselves in every other way.

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Goodness. Now, the Bible talks about the tongue is like a ship. And the ship is on the water. And I gotta. I gotta turn. Turn this ship. All right. Now, I went through great expense of getting all this. You got it. Sailing, sailing. But I'm turning it. And when I do turn this, the rudder is turning. The rudder is turning, and it's the tongue. And then as it turns, the ship doesn't immediately just swing around. No, it's a slow turn. Why? Because it has a lot of things it's doing in the meantime. And when you get your tone going the right way, then you'll see your body start turning. Come on, you start talking. Increase. You start talking how good it is. You'll start talking about your wife's good cooking. Come on, you'll start. Or husband's good cooking. And you'll start talking about. These kids are the best I've ever seen and my kids gonna be physicians and all that. It's with the tongue. With the tongue. It's a small member, but it does great things. You see what I'm saying? So this I got. I ordered this because I thought when you saw this, this you'll remember me, you'll forget. But this you'll remember, all right. And then a steering wheel. And we have a steering wheel here. And I've got that. He had put it back in the bag. He was zipping up. He was getting ready to go. So here's a steering wheel. What kind of steering wheel wheel is this? BMW. Somebody might have a BMW. Or you might have a BMW in your dreams. And so this is a. I would leave this with you, but I'm going to carry it with me. Other people got to see this, but this is representing. Here's a car. I want to go down the wrong way. I want to go back the other way. Well, turn the wheel. Well, I don't think I should turn the wheel. I just. Well, wait a minute. Now you're going the wrong way. But this is the way I learned to go. I just go. I won't. Don't turn the wheel. You won't turn the wheel. You won't put pressure on your tongue. You won't do it. Somebody won't do it. But from now on, you'll do it. From now on, I declare that everybody in here will have a minimum of $100,000 in the bank savings. Come on. I declare it right now. I declare that every person in here is debt free. Owes on mortgages, debt on school loans, debt on car. Debt free. Everything is debt free. They came out of Israel. Last verse. Psalm 105, verse 37. This is you. God got big plans for you. He plans for you to live. 120. Nothing broken, nothing missing. You got what I'm saying? And I'm saying for you, this is what you've got. Read it.

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He brought them forth also with silver and gold.

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Silver and gold and what else?

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And there was not one feeble person among their children.

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One sick feeble one among their crowd. Praise God. My name is Bill Winson, and I approve this message. Where is she? Tell her to come here. I've got something for you. May the Lord bless you. Real good. Amen. All right. I want to. Here's my offering. I want to assure everybody in here that if this message wasn't for you, I wouldn't have preached it. I wouldn't have preached it. I try to preach exactly. I asked God, what shall I say, Lord? And he tells me what to say. God has big plans for this church. He's got big plans for you. Now, he is God that is of a free will. He gives you freedom to say what you want to say. He said, there stands before you death and life blessing. Come on. And cursing. Therefore, choose life that you and your seed may live. I want to tell you I love you. God bless you and keep walking. By faith.

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