TBT: Melanie Martin

Summary

Podcast Summary: Dumb Blonde
Episode: TBT: Melanie Martin
Release Date: June 26, 2025

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Introduction

In this heartfelt episode of the Dumb Blonde podcast, host Aaron Carter, a former sex worker turned podcast host, sits down with Melanie Martin to delve into her tumultuous relationship with Aaron Carter. The conversation offers an unfiltered look into the complexities of their relationship, shedding light on themes of love, abuse, addiction, and personal healing.

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Early Life and Background

Melanie Martin shares her upbringing, highlighting her move from Bulgaria to Orange County, California, at the age of six. She reflects on her close-knit family environment and how growing up in Orange County, a more family-oriented area compared to Los Angeles, shaped her early years.

Melanie Martin [04:46]: "I grew up in Orange County, but I originally am from Europe, so I came from Bulgaria, and me and my mom came here."

Melanie discusses her post-high school years, where she worked in cosmetology and bartending while attending community college. Her passion for the cosmetic industry was influenced by her mother's salon business.

Melanie Martin [07:02]: "I went to community college and got a beauty license. I was in the cosmetic industry, just working and focusing on my goals."

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Meeting Aaron Carter

The couple met through social media shortly after Christmas 2019. Melanie recounts initiating the first contact by complimenting Aaron's dog, leading to swift communication and a deep connection.

Melanie Martin [09:29]: "I said, 'Your dog is literally so cute. This is my dog,'"
Aaron Carter [09:38]: "He replied quickly, wanting to meet me."

Their relationship progressed rapidly, with Melanie visiting Aaron in Lancaster only hours after their initial conversation. Melanie was unaware of Aaron's extensive online presence and past, which later became significant in their relationship dynamics.

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Relationship Dynamics and Early Signs of Trouble

Initially, Melanie describes their relationship as loving and supportive. Aaron encouraged her to focus on her clothing company, allowing her to work from home. However, subtle red flags began to surface within the first few months.

Melanie Martin [16:28]: "He wanted me to stay at home with him, work on the clothing company."

Melanie notes that despite the seemingly supportive environment, Aaron's behavior became increasingly erratic. The first major conflict arose over old online messages, leading to public accusations of infidelity.

Aaron Carter [17:15]: "He found old messages where I wasn't flirting, yet he accused me of cheating and made a scene online."

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Struggles with Addiction and Abuse

As their relationship progressed, Melanie observed Aaron's dependency on prescription medications, which exacerbated his paranoia and erratic behavior. Although Aaron had a psychiatrist, his treatment lacked in-person consultations, raising concerns about his medication management.

Aaron Carter [11:02]: "He was paranoid all the time. When he changed doctors and his medication levels fluctuated, it impacted our relationship deeply."

Melanie recounts how Aaron's addiction led to manipulative tactics, including moving other girlfriends into their home during periods of conflict, effectively triangulating their relationship.

Melanie Martin [30:53]: "He'd move other girls into the house when we broke up and publicly claim them as his wives."

These manipulative behaviors created a toxic environment, characterized by constant fights and mistrust, ultimately taking a severe toll on Melanie's mental health.

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Pregnancy and Family Life

Despite the chaos, Melanie and Aaron welcomed their son, Prince, into the world. Melanie describes the joy of pregnancy and Aaron's initial enthusiasm about expanding their family. However, her happiness was short-lived as Aaron's struggles with addiction intensified.

Melanie Martin [27:37]: "He was so excited about Prince. He messaged everyone, 'Guess what? Melanie's pregnant.'"

After Prince's birth, Aaron's behavior deteriorated further. He began to reduce his medication intake, leading to severe withdrawal symptoms and increased dependency on substances like alcohol and inhalants.

Aaron Carter [23:10]: "After getting pregnant, I saw a big change in him. He wasn't taking as many prescription pills and started abusing substances again."

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Custody Battle and Decline

Aaron's erratic behavior did not go unnoticed by his fans, leading to intervention from Child Protective Services (CPS). Despite Melanie's efforts to create a stable environment for Prince, Aaron's public outbursts and substance abuse led to a custody battle, resulting in Prince being taken from their home.

Aaron Carter [43:26]: "They said he couldn't live at Aaron's house. I was living back and forth, constantly worried about my son and Aaron."

This period marked a significant decline in Aaron's mental and emotional well-being, further straining their already fragile relationship.

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Aaron Carter's Passing

On November 5th, amidst continued substance abuse and personal struggles, Aaron Carter tragically passed away. Melanie describes the events leading up to his death, including a final confrontation where Aaron expressed his inability to continue the relationship.

Melanie Martin [46:28]: "He said, 'It's too late now. We can't get back to where we are. We're not going to be a family.'"

In the final days, Aaron's behavior remained unstable, culminating in his death from drowning while under the influence of substances. Melanie reflects on the challenges she faced during this tumultuous period and the profound impact of his loss on her and Prince.

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Life After Aaron's Death

In the aftermath of Aaron's passing, Melanie focuses on rebuilding her life and providing a stable environment for Prince. She emphasizes the importance of mental health and healing, contemplating therapy and advocacy for child exploitation awareness.

Melanie Martin [64:34]: "I'm focusing on stabilizing my finances, finding a job, and raising Prince while maintaining his late father's legacy."

Melanie expresses her commitment to preventing similar tragedies by advocating for better mental health resources and support systems for individuals struggling with addiction.

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Reflections and Future Plans

Throughout the episode, Melanie reflects on the lessons learned from her relationship with Aaron. She underscores the importance of recognizing red flags, seeking help, and prioritizing personal well-being. Melanie also shares her dedication to advancing mental health awareness and supporting others facing similar challenges.

Melanie Martin [68:16]: "It's crucial to take care of your mental health and seek support. Healing is a journey, and I'm committed to helping others along the way."

Melanie concludes by sharing her contact information, encouraging listeners to follow her journey and support her initiatives.

Melanie Martin [69:03]: "You can find me on Instagram at @MsMelanieMartin or on TikTok at @MsMelanieXX."

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Notable Quotes

• Melanie Martin [09:29]: "I said, 'Your dog is literally so cute. This is my dog,' and that innocent compliment led to our connection."

• Aaron Carter [17:15]: "He found old messages where I wasn't flirting, yet he accused me of cheating and made a scene online."

• Melanie Martin [30:53]: "He'd move other girls into the house when we broke up and publicly claim them as his wives."

• Aaron Carter [23:10]: "After getting pregnant, I saw a big change in him. He wasn't taking as many prescription pills and started abusing substances again."

• Melanie Martin [68:16]: "It's crucial to take care of your mental health and seek support. Healing is a journey, and I'm committed to helping others along the way."

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Conclusion

This episode of Dumb Blonde offers a poignant exploration of Melanie Martin's experiences within a toxic and abusive relationship marked by addiction and manipulation. Through her candid storytelling, Melanie provides valuable insights into the importance of mental health awareness, the complexities of relationships affected by substance abuse, and the path to personal healing and advocacy.

Listeners are encouraged to reflect on the importance of recognizing unhealthy relationship patterns and the need for comprehensive support systems for those struggling with addiction and mental health issues.

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Transcript

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[Aaron Carter]

Sex worker and now hosts the podcast Dumb Blonde.

[Melanie Martin]

Most little girls grow up wanting to be doctors and lawyers and and I was like, I want to be super hot, make a lot of money and be a rock star's w was my goal as a child. And here we are. What's up, you sexy? Welcome to another episode of Dumb Blonde. Today we have Melanie Martin in the house and I am so excited to sit down with her and hear her story. I don't know if you guys know who she is or not, but you will by the end of this podcast. How are you doing, baby?

[Aaron Carter]

Good. How are you?

[Melanie Martin]

I'm doing so good. Thank you for coming.

[Aaron Carter]

Thank you for having me. Of course.

[Melanie Martin]

Girl, you've been through some man. Yeah, a lot. Like, I just want to hug you. It's been. I was doing a lot of research last night and the that I, you know, saw and like the things I read and just heard you speak about. Like, I'm so happy that I'm able to give you a place where everybody can come and just listen to you tell your side of the story because I really feel like that's what's fair. So let's get into it. Also, I just wanted to throw in there that we are in la. So if you guys are looking around and you're like, what is this studio? This is a studio that we are recording out of in la, and it's from Third Wheel Podcast, so shout out to them for squeezing us in and letting us shoot the podcast here. So anyways, Melanie, where did you grow up?

[Aaron Carter]

I grew up in Orange county, but I originally am from Europe, so I came from Bulgaria, and me and my mom came here.

[Melanie Martin]

That explains your exotic look because you're so pretty. It really explains, like, your features and everything.

[Aaron Carter]

Thank you.

[Melanie Martin]

So how old were you whenever you came here? Six. Six.

[Aaron Carter]

So kindergarten. Like, I started kindergarten.

[Melanie Martin]

Okay. Yeah, gotcha. And how was your relationship with your parents and your.

[Aaron Carter]

My mom remarried, and then she's still married to my stepdad.

[Melanie Martin]

Oh.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah. So we came here and we've lived here ever since, so.

[Melanie Martin]

And then. And you grew up in Orange County? Oh, in Orange County.

[Aaron Carter]

I've never lived anywhere else. Just Orange County.

[Melanie Martin]

Yeah.

[Aaron Carter]

Well, I lived in Lancaster with Aaron.

[Melanie Martin]

But tell me the difference between LA and Orange county, because I saw you corrected me on that. It is.

[Aaron Carter]

I mean, it's one more ritier than the other, and it's more family oriented. There's a lot more. Yeah, it's just a lot more family oriented.

[Melanie Martin]

Tell me about growing up in Orange County. What was that like for you?

[Aaron Carter]

I'd say it was very, you know, I was safe, had good people around me, you know, never. I stayed out of trouble.

[Melanie Martin]

Yeah. So she's like, I was a good girl. Yeah. All of us good girls grow up to be naughty. So growing up in Orange county and, you know, just kind of living this lifestyle you grew up pretty much around? Because I grew up in Vegas, so we grew up around celebrities. Like, it was like nothing to us to grow up and, you know, go to the grocery store and see a celebrity at the grocery store and stuff like that. Do you feel like your life kind of like your trajectory for your life was already set just by living in Orange county, like, you know, dating celebrities and so and so forth.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah. So, I mean, I've only had two boyfriends in my life, and I'm 36, so it was just. Yeah, so I've only had two.

[Melanie Martin]

Wow.

[Aaron Carter]

It was Aaron and my ex, so. Yeah.

[Melanie Martin]

Oh, my God. That's crazy. Nobody would ever suspect that because I was the complete opposite. I was a hoochie mama. She's like, I've had two boyfriends. I've. I've, like, I've had two at a time. So. Okay, so you are growing up in Orange county, and what do you do once you graduate high school?

[Aaron Carter]

I just worked. I did cosmetic. Like, I worked at, like, Nordstrom, like, Cosmetics. I remember I worked for Chanel makeup artists did those. Waitressing, bartending.

[Melanie Martin]

Yeah, all of that.

[Aaron Carter]

So I did that kind of for a while. I mean, just right after high school.

[Melanie Martin]

So you started bartending as soon as you got out of high school?

[Aaron Carter]

And I did go to. I went to a community college, but. And then I have a beauty license and I just was in the cosmetic industry.

[Melanie Martin]

Oh, awesome. So did you go to school to like for hair or just cosmetology?

[Aaron Carter]

Cosmetology.

[Melanie Martin]

Okay. I think we all did in that era. Yeah, too. I went, I didn't finish.

[Aaron Carter]

Stick with that. And you know, I want to continue doing that. My mom has a salon, so. Okay, got you the same.

[Melanie Martin]

So keep it in the family. Stuff like that. So when you know you are bartending and stuff like that, what were you doing before you got into your relationship with Aaron?

[Aaron Carter]

So I was focusing just on me, you know, my goals and I was just bartending, you know, full time modeling jobs, never really looking for love. Kind of in that same like Groundhogs Day kind of sad, but also like, you know, keeping myself busy. I was looking for someone that wanted me equally as much as I wanted him.

[Melanie Martin]

You had standards.

[Aaron Carter]

I had standards. Thank you.

[Melanie Martin]

You were like, listen, you want to fuck with this, you got to rise to the occasion. So you were just single, living your life. And then how long did. Until you met Aaron? After?

[Aaron Carter]

I met Aaron, a couple days after Christmas, 2019.

[Melanie Martin]

Okay.

[Aaron Carter]

And then till 2022. So on and off.

[Melanie Martin]

Where did you meet Aaron at?

[Aaron Carter]

At his home in Lancaster.

[Melanie Martin]

Okay. So how did.

[Aaron Carter]

From social media.

[Melanie Martin]

Okay.

[Aaron Carter]

Out of. No, it was just I saw something of him and he was like being really sensitive and it just, I saw something in his eyes that connected me with him. And it was. He was saying, I'm just looking for my wife to live my life, like live my future with. And he's like, with a, like, you know, cooking a barbecue or something like that. I just saw him say that one thing, you know, attracted me to him because I saw that he was looking for something and I was looking for that, you know, So I really didn't think he would reply, but he did. So.

[Melanie Martin]

So you slid in his dm?

[Aaron Carter]

I did.

[Melanie Martin]

You're like, you're like, what's up, baby? What. What do you say to Aaron Carter when you slide in his dm? I'm your wifey. Here's your wifey.

[Aaron Carter]

It's delete. I don't know why it's gone now. I wish I had it, but it's gone. I think I have a screenshot somewhere. But I said, your dog is literally so cute. I said, this is my dog, you know, kind of thing, so. And then we connected with that, so it's so innocent. I know. It was really. Yeah, I love that. Yeah.

[Melanie Martin]

So he replies back. And what does he say?

[Aaron Carter]

It was really fast. He said, you know, I would love to meet you first. We spoke over the phone, like, a couple hours. So he wanted to really get to know me. And at first I was like, oh, wow, this is really fast. You know, so then I gave him a chance, drove to him, only it was like two hours from my house, so. And then we were. It was.

[Melanie Martin]

It was like love at first sight. When he opens the door and you guys.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah, he recorded me on his YouTube. I didn't even. I wasn't aware that he went online so much, to be honest, because it happened so fast. It was like, you know, phone call, then come over.

[Melanie Martin]

Did you know who he was before?

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah, I knew, but I didn't see everything that was. I didn't follow him for too long. I only followed him that instant when I saw that video of him. So I didn't look up anything about him.

[Melanie Martin]

Right, Gotcha. So you didn't know, like, the backstory?

[Aaron Carter]

No, I didn't know his backstory. His family. It was kind of, you know, based off of the 2000s.

[Melanie Martin]

Right.

[Aaron Carter]

That's about it.

[Melanie Martin]

Gotcha.

[Aaron Carter]

So. So he opens early 2000s.

[Melanie Martin]

Yeah. So he opens the door.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah. And he was filming, and I guess I saw the video later because they uploaded it somewhere on YouTube. And he said, this is gonna be my wife.

[Melanie Martin]

Oh.

[Aaron Carter]

So he said, is she the one? Then he was, like, telling everybody in the camera, so I don't know.

[Melanie Martin]

Oh. And so take me on this journey with Aaron. Because it starts out so sweet and just so loving, and then it just seems like as time went on, like, was he using whenever you guys first met?

[Aaron Carter]

So I don't believe he was abusing his medications because he had a psychiatrist. I think he was being regulated. When I first met him, he was still on medication, but it wasn't to the level of what it was in 2021, 2022. And we can kind of get into there. I'm not really supposed to speak. Speak about his medications, unfortunately, because there is an active case going on.

[Melanie Martin]

Oh, okay. Gotcha.

[Aaron Carter]

But I just want to let you know, you know, there was a change with. When he changed doctors.

[Melanie Martin]

Gotcha.

[Aaron Carter]

With his medications and the levels of medications he was taking, I feel like.

[Melanie Martin]

Doctors really just do not care about their patients. Some of them, you know, in this case, it seems like, you know, I just feel like doctors, because of people's statuses, will give them anything they want, like, as if they ask for it or whatever. And I know you can't speak on it, but that's just my opinion that I'm.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah, I like, you know, because, like.

[Melanie Martin]

Michael Jackson, like, look at what happened with him. And, like, there's so many celebrities that end up, like, overdosing or doing things, you know, on these medications that they're prescribed. But for some reason, it's like the doctors are just never getting blamed.

[Aaron Carter]

I've been watching a lot of shows about it on Netflix, about that. So I've been keeping up, like, trying to do research on it a little bit.

[Melanie Martin]

Okay, so when you guys first got together, you don't feel like he was abusing drugs or anything. What was the relationship like?

[Aaron Carter]

Like, so it was really. I mean, it was 2020 was the, like the first couple months. Obviously, you know, people always say, you know, the first couple months are always the best. It's like the love stage, you know, but it really was. And we would get back to that level. But I would have to say that there was a lot of people involved. We can get into that more. That made it nearly impossible to get back.

[Melanie Martin]

When you say there was a lot.

[Aaron Carter]

Of people involved, do you mean like, his friends? None of my friends are really involved. I kind of lost a lot of friends, but they were still there. But they understood, you know, what was going on and that, you know, Melanie's growing up. She's getting relationships, she's getting pregnant. You know, she's busy with her. Her job at home, you know, the clothing company.

[Melanie Martin]

Yeah.

[Aaron Carter]

So it was like a different, you know, I was stay at home mom for a little bit.

[Melanie Martin]

Yeah. While we're gonna. We'll rewind, though, and we'll start talking about when you got pregnant and stuff like that. So in the first. In the first, you know, few phases of your relationship, was it his camp around you guys?

[Aaron Carter]

No, actually, I want to get into that. When I first met him, it was just him and the dog and his one dog. He only had one dog. I had one dog. And he was going online, but I didn't see him arguing as much with people compared to later on. He cared more about the comments and stuff.

[Melanie Martin]

Do you think it's because he was more on medication?

[Aaron Carter]

Well, yeah, I think the medication just added to his paranoia. And I'll get into it He. He was very paranoid all the time. He didn't know who to trust.

[Melanie Martin]

Even in the beginning?

[Aaron Carter]

No. It wasn't until, I'd say, like, maybe two months into the relationship, that's when I noticed it more, and that's when we had our first fight. It was pretty bad.

[Melanie Martin]

Was he ever diagnosed with any mental illness?

[Aaron Carter]

So some sort. So no, he was never diagnosed with anything, but he's had psychiatrists, and when I was in the relationship, I did not see one psychiatrist come to him, but he. They were prescribing him all these medications, but they never actually physically saw him. I never saw a doctor come into our home or him go to an office.

[Melanie Martin]

Did he do, like, face times with them or anything?

[Aaron Carter]

Barely. Wow.

[Melanie Martin]

So these people were just pretty much prescribing medications just over the phone because it was who he was.

[Aaron Carter]

I believe in that, what you're saying.

[Melanie Martin]

Yeah, Allegedly.

[Aaron Carter]

Allegedly.

[Melanie Martin]

Allegedly. When you guys got into your first argument, what was it about and how did that go?

[Aaron Carter]

So I'll remember, you know, the beginning, we were going to dinners, not, you know, staying home, because it was before COVID It was during COVID time. So I quit my job within bartending because it was too far away. And he was like, I just want you to stay home, work on the clothing company. And then.

[Melanie Martin]

So he. He gave you that clothing company?

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah, he did.

[Melanie Martin]

What is the name of. What is the name of that clothing company?

[Aaron Carter]

Our clothing company was the Love Collection. Right.

[Melanie Martin]

And he specifically made that clothing line for you to be able to work at home.

[Aaron Carter]

Yes.

[Melanie Martin]

Okay.

[Aaron Carter]

Because I did bartending.

[Melanie Martin]

I did read some people were like, you know, she took that from him. Or, you know. Yeah.

[Aaron Carter]

Yes. They. They don't like. And. But then I have a lot of supportive fans, too.

[Melanie Martin]

Absolutely. For sure. But I. We just want to clear the air that that clothing line was specifically made because Aaron did not like you working.

[Aaron Carter]

Yes. And he wanted me to stay at home with him.

[Melanie Martin]

Right. Gotcha.

[Aaron Carter]

Which I didn't see that as, like, a red flag. You know, I'm just thinking, oh, my God, she wants to be with me all the time. Until later on.

[Melanie Martin]

Yeah. Well, then it's hard for anybody who's in that situation, because when you're first in a relationship with somebody, you want to be next to that person.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah. I was happy that I didn't have to work, honestly.

[Melanie Martin]

Yeah.

[Aaron Carter]

At the bar, I got to stay at home with him and help him get his taxes in order. Help him. But I tried was. I kind of got thrown into, you know, years of Mismanagement from all of his people on and off. And it was, that was a job in itself, trying to fix everything.

[Melanie Martin]

Like he just got thrown into a frying pan, literally. So let's circle back to this first argument.

[Aaron Carter]

I'll remember. The first argument was about a hairdresser because he saw old messages of him, like being kind of flirty with me. And so he's like, oh, she's cheating on me. And he would like, say it publicly. It was an old message from five years ago. It wasn't even flirting. It was just like, you're beautiful. I love that picture of you. Or something like that, of that, sort of. And he throws it, you know, and I'm like, I've never fought with anyone like this before.

[Melanie Martin]

It was just, it was like 0 to 100.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah. And. And I remember, you know, he made a whole scene about it and posting online saying she's this and that and. Yeah.

[Melanie Martin]

What was that like? How did that make you feel? Whenever he did take that first argument.

[Aaron Carter]

I feel like I didn't. I thought it was completely over after I left. I didn't then, you know, then I realized it was a pattern, that he would just find a reason for us to argue every couple of weeks because he was.

[Melanie Martin]

I caught on to the chaos.

[Aaron Carter]

Yes, that's what I'm hoping. I don't think he was used to just it being, you know, happy, lovey dovey all the time from his family life. I think he was just so used to the chaos, unfortunately.

[Melanie Martin]

Did he ever talk to you about, like how he grew up in chaos?

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah, and I didn't, I feel like I didn't. I feel like I couldn't read him. Exactly. And I didn't know if he was just saying that. And I wish I took him a little more seriously. I'll. I'll say that.

[Melanie Martin]

Yeah. So he, he did try to say, hey, you know, I am the way I am because of the environment that I grew up in.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah.

[Melanie Martin]

Did he ever, like suffer abuse as a child or anything?

[Aaron Carter]

So this is one thing I can comment. When my mom first came to visit Aaron, Aaron pulled my mom to the side and was like, hey, I want you to read this book. Because Melanie doesn't really like reading or somebody said something, but I'm like, babe, I've been trying to read it, but, you know, we got busy and she. It was called a child called it. And I don't know if you guys know what that book is. It's about a kid that was abused and like. But not to. I don't. He wasn't abused on that level, I don't think. But he was just saying, like, I just want you to see what abuse is when you're a child. And he tried to get me to read it, and I did read a little bit of it, and I'm like, wondering, like, why is he trying to get me to read this book? So later on I understood why, but I.

[Melanie Martin]

Physical abuse or, like, sexual abuse in.

[Aaron Carter]

The book of mental. Physical for the child.

[Melanie Martin]

Got you. I've never heard of that book. We'll have to check it out. So, you know, after you get in this first fight, you leave, you. You think it's completely over with.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah.

[Melanie Martin]

And you're just like, all right, this is it. We're done. What happens from. Because obviously you guys had a. Over relationship. So it wasn't over after that first.

[Aaron Carter]

No. I remember I went home and it was always him fighting back and forth and me trying to get. Like, he wanted me to always fight back. Like, I feel like I caught on to it later that he wanted to.

[Melanie Martin]

Argue, like, but if you fought back, it would escalate. Correct.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah, but he wanted those games, you know, Like, I don't know.

[Melanie Martin]

Yeah. Well, it's toxic. It's a toxic relationship. So it's like we were talking about off camera. It's push and pull. You know, he's going to push you away as hard as he can. And then.

[Aaron Carter]

But he wanted me to fight back and, like, win him over again. Like, he wanted me. I realized that he just wanted me to, quote, unquote, quote, kind of like beg for him back, like, to get back with him.

[Melanie Martin]

Yeah.

[Aaron Carter]

Almost like he wanted me to leave so that I could come back.

[Melanie Martin]

And was there cheating that went on in the relationship? Because it sounds like there.

[Aaron Carter]

It was.

[Melanie Martin]

There was. Okay. Because it sounds like somebody who would triangulate a situation.

[Aaron Carter]

It was never. I would never be. He would try to. I really. Everything was kind of like, I would see it later after I. After the situation happened, that he would try to find a reason to break us up or some, you know, find a reason from. Oh, you did this on this day.

[Melanie Martin]

Right. That's what I was reading whenever you were telling me about how you would, like, pick fights with you and then want you to win him back. Because that sounds like what I went through with one of my exes before, where it was extremely toxic. But he would always triangulate us and there would always be another girl in the situation. It's like, he's gonna Fight with me, push me away. Go hang out with that girl. But he wants me to try to win him.

[Aaron Carter]

Yes.

[Melanie Martin]

You know?

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah, that's exactly what happened with us.

[Melanie Martin]

Yeah. How often did he cheat on you?

[Aaron Carter]

Well, he always tried to say that I'm the cheater. When we would break up, even if I didn't physically cheat on him or anything like that, even just anything like going to see a hairstylist, he'd be like, oh, you cheated on me? And he would throw. And I would never defend myself online.

[Melanie Martin]

Because one, you shouldn't have to. It's a private relationship. You know, he.

[Aaron Carter]

Everything was online across those boundaries.

[Melanie Martin]

But technically, you really shouldn't have had to have gone online to protect yourself because. And. And defend yourself, because this is your relationship.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah, he.

[Melanie Martin]

I actually think it's admirable that you didn't, because I would have gone online.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah. I think I knew I was going to be recorded. And I'm like, I don't want to say something wrong because it's going to be taken the wrong way. And then it'll bring more attention to, like, our fights. So I would just stay off camera.

[Melanie Martin]

I think that's so much more admirable. To be able to not say anything, especially when people online are attacking your character is just shows a lot of strength, but also it shows where your head and your heart was at. Like, if you were really trying to capitalize off Aaron, you would have taken every moment that you could have to go online and make headlines by arguing with him.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah, I never did any of that. I just stayed. I'm like, I'm just waiting for him to get back to normal again. Same.

[Melanie Martin]

So how. So how much longer up the road did he start spiraling? Spiraling out of control? Was this before you got pregnant with Prince, or did he.

[Aaron Carter]

I noticed it was. Basically, I saw a big difference in him right after I got pregnant because he was doing celebrity boxing and I noticed he wasn't taking as many prescription pills. Just. I could even say he even told me, hey, I'm gonna go lighter on my medication. And he was like, I think I wanna. What do you call, wean off of it. He actually told me that. And I said, oh, I really. I was. You know, I didn't want to say, you need to. I didn't speak like that because I didn't know how to go about drug addiction yet.

[Melanie Martin]

Right.

[Aaron Carter]

And I had no one to kind of help me, like, put him in the right direction. But I would always say, did he.

[Melanie Martin]

Have a manager that he had a.

[Aaron Carter]

Bunch of managers on and off, on and off, on and off.

[Melanie Martin]

But is there anybody that you.

[Aaron Carter]

They were pushing it on him. They were the ones giving it to him.

[Melanie Martin]

Wow. So when you would go to them, and I didn't mean to cut you off, but when you say, no, you didn't have anybody to help you, I kind of want to zero in on that. Because when you're dealing with an addict, I. We deal with. We have addiction in our family. Also. My. My bonus baby's mom is an addict. And just when you're dealing with an addict, it takes a village to really help that person. So, you know, you being just one person and his love interest, too, is really hard because it's gonna cause knockout drag out fights because, you know, you're the closest thing to him. They always say, you hurt the ones.

[Aaron Carter]

I'm in the home. So it's nearly impossible for the. You know, I was there to protect, to keep him better than him being alone. He was not. He couldn't handle being alone.

[Melanie Martin]

Was he, like, scared to be alone?

[Aaron Carter]

It wasn't that. He. Well, he was paranoid.

[Melanie Martin]

Gotcha.

[Aaron Carter]

But he just didn't do well alone. Like, I just thought when he. We would break up, I was always worried. Like, I couldn't sleep. I couldn't.

[Melanie Martin]

So when you say that his management kind of fed him drugs, like, when you would go to them and be.

[Aaron Carter]

Like, no, I have messages of it in my phone.

[Melanie Martin]

Really? Saying what?

[Aaron Carter]

Like, hey, I have this for you. I have that for you.

[Melanie Martin]

Wow.

[Aaron Carter]

And I met the manager that I met in 2022, after Prince was born. He was the one who went, did a tour with him like this. It was like a mini tour.

[Melanie Martin]

Right.

[Aaron Carter]

But he wasn't getting, unfortunately, the right amount of people at his shows.

[Melanie Martin]

Right.

[Aaron Carter]

He's gotten a lot of support after he passed away, but before, you know, he didn't have too many people going to his shows.

[Melanie Martin]

People had, like, written them off because he did become such an online circus, you know, And I feel like fans turned so easily. Like, it's. It's either they love you to death or they hate you. There's no in between when it comes to fans. And I feel like a lot of us failed Aaron, you know, because he deserved so much better. Like, he was a child. He was, you know, Aaron Carter, and he was a childhood star, and people loved him when he was a kid. And then, you know, I think with a lot of child stars, like, look at Amanda Bynes.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah.

[Melanie Martin]

Beautiful girl.

[Aaron Carter]

That was his first girlfriend.

[Melanie Martin]

Was It. Oh, my goodness. I never knew that.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah.

[Melanie Martin]

And you know, but it's like everybody loves them when they're young and they're doing something for them, but then as they get older and they have that transition of not being a child anymore, it's like, oh, you know them, we don't need them anymore.

[Aaron Carter]

He pushed away the good part of his, like family and team, I would have to say, because they wanted him to do better. I always wanted him to do better, but as a fiance, I didn't know how it about to do that without losing him.

[Melanie Martin]

Right. That's powerful.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah.

[Melanie Martin]

Let's circle back. So you said when you first got pregnant with Prince, he was doing celebrity boxing.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah. And he was like, I think I'm gonna. He's like, he. I saw a change in him and I'm like, wow, like we're finally getting it together, like we're doing good. And he was not taking it ab abusing his prescriptions. He was going, I was, I had morning sickness. And I was actually genuinely shocked that he would drive to LA every morning and go practice. I have never seen him do that, like actually physically go get up and, you know, work out and do something product. I didn't see him be that way in a really long time.

[Melanie Martin]

Were you guys trying for a baby?

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah, he. He wanted a baby. I mean, I mean, he told my mom, she goes, you know, why do you want to buy a house with seven bedrooms? Why do you need such a big house? And he goes, oh, well, we're gonna have it all with kids. You know, telling my mom that, and she's a little shocked, but she loves, she loves being a grandma, so I love that.

[Melanie Martin]

He's so cute too. Thank freaking cute.

[Aaron Carter]

Thank you.

[Melanie Martin]

He's going to be. He's gorgeous, baby. He's going to be just gorgeous growing up, cuz both of you guys have amazing genetics. So you guys were trying to get pregnant. And tell, tell me about the day that you found out that you were pregnant. What was Aaron's reaction?

[Aaron Carter]

Oh, he was so he was posting it everywhere. Telling everybody in his entire phone. He messaged everybody in his phone. He's like, guess what? Melanie's pregnant.

[Melanie Martin]

That warms my heart. How'd that make you feel?

[Aaron Carter]

Really? I mean, I, I saw a change and I was, I was, I was ready for it too. You know, being 34 or 35, I think 34.

[Melanie Martin]

You look great. Oh, you're gorgeous.

[Aaron Carter]

You too. Thank you.

[Melanie Martin]

Appreciate you. Okay. So he was excited. He's going to celebrity boxing has he. Did he ever fully not take any medication when he was with you?

[Aaron Carter]

Known only for the times that he would run out?

[Melanie Martin]

I would say, so did he go through withdrawals?

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah, he did. Yeah. And then I. He would say, you know, he's having Heidel hernia. But I knew it was just withdrawal from not taking his medic, from not having any medication. And it was. He wanted to tell people about, like about his symptoms, I think, but he never fully like, because he didn't. He was in denial.

[Melanie Martin]

So he never considered himself a drug addict?

[Aaron Carter]

No, but I mean, I look at old interviews from six years ago and he would physically say in the camera, I am a drug addict. You can pull those up.

[Melanie Martin]

Yeah. And then. But to you he would not say he's a.

[Aaron Carter]

No, but maybe he said he needed his medication for his anxiety, which they prescribe Xanax as that.

[Melanie Martin]

I used to have a Xanax addiction, so I get it.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah.

[Melanie Martin]

Do you think maybe he loved you and just didn't want you to judge him so that's why he never could admit that to you and come out and just say, hey, I'm a drug addict.

[Aaron Carter]

Maybe. I hope, I hope he loved me.

[Melanie Martin]

I'm sure. I, I think we know. Aaron definitely loved you. Let's talk about the baby shower incident. You had talked about this just so that people can get an insight. And I want everybody to know we're not here to bash Aaron. But it is important that I feel like the media does such a good job of blaming the women that are with the men and it's never the men's fault for some reason. And it's like, I think everybody deserves to tell their side of the story.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah.

[Melanie Martin]

And that's what we are here to do today. So.

[Aaron Carter]

Well, I want to tell you.

[Melanie Martin]

Okay. You're saying, so let's talk about the baby shower incident.

[Aaron Carter]

So this is kind of where I saw the most spiraling was from after the baby shower. We never got it right. Like there was too much not trusting each other and then just events after events made it harder to get back to where we were from 2020, where we were, you know, a little better in our relationship.

[Melanie Martin]

Well, I don't think so much trust had been broken.

[Aaron Carter]

There was too much. Yeah. From both sides, you know, because he would take everything personal with me. He'd be like, oh, you know, you talked to a guy when we were broken up. Like you would consider that cheating.

[Melanie Martin]

Right.

[Aaron Carter]

Even though he had full on girlfriends on his living in the house.

[Melanie Martin]

Right.

[Aaron Carter]

But it Was okay for him to do that.

[Melanie Martin]

So you guys would break up and he would move girls into the house.

[Aaron Carter]

For like, like seven. I. I call him 72 hour.

[Melanie Martin]

Hey, Joey, Sorry. You're such a gentle spirit. So to hear you not even want to call these girls hoes, I think it speaks volumes because.

[Aaron Carter]

Well, no, somebody made it up the other day, and I'm just like, oh, it's kind of funny.

[Melanie Martin]

No, it's. It's great. So he would move these girls into the house when you guys would break up and then say that they're gonna marry.

[Aaron Carter]

He would say on his Instagram that this is his new wife. There was like, a couple. Not too many. I'd say that were.

[Melanie Martin]

You're a better woman than I. I'd have been tearing that house down with a baseball bat.

[Aaron Carter]

I mean, I know I tried the first time, and then I caught on to what he was doing.

[Melanie Martin]

Right.

[Aaron Carter]

And you're like, I'm just like, I'm not gonna entertain it because he's doing it on purpose.

[Melanie Martin]

Kudos to you, woman. So this baby shower incident.

[Aaron Carter]

Sorry.

[Melanie Martin]

So. No, you're good.

[Aaron Carter]

I. First of all, he calls her, and I never knew who this woman was because I never saw her messaging him. He goes, this is my old assistant. And he goes, I want you to meet her. She's really nice. You'll really like her. And I'm like, okay. So I get to know. She seems like a really nice girl. I didn't know later on because they both let me know that they used to be in a relationship. Not a relationship, but more than friends with benefit.

[Melanie Martin]

Whatever they were. Yeah, okay, gotcha.

[Aaron Carter]

Okay.

[Melanie Martin]

So he would never go for that, though. If you tried to bring it.

[Aaron Carter]

I can't. I couldn't. Yeah, that's the thing. I would have never been. I wasn't even allowed to see a hair stylist that, you know, I sent a photo of my hair in a cute outfit that was considered cheating to him that I had to cut off a hair stylist who did my hair correctly, you know, made me look. Look the way I wanted to look.

[Melanie Martin]

Right.

[Aaron Carter]

Things like that. But he was allowed. And. And he was. She was being dishonest to me, and he was being dishonest.

[Melanie Martin]

What were they being dishonest about?

[Aaron Carter]

By not telling me in the first place that they were in. They were hanging out.

[Melanie Martin]

Gotcha. Yep.

[Aaron Carter]

For a long period of time. On and off. On and off. Before you? Yes, before me. Okay, so then I didn't know this. I'm like, oh, this Girl seems, like, really nice. I feel like looking back, I am super naive to. Not that. You know, you're super sweet.

[Melanie Martin]

You have a gentle.

[Aaron Carter]

I get it. I get it that I was naive. You know, I'll call myself that. I 100 was. So I didn't know anything was going on because she wasn't really his type. Like, he had a type, so.

[Melanie Martin]

And what's his type?

[Aaron Carter]

Girls, Like, I don't know. Barbie, blonde.

[Melanie Martin]

Blondes. Gotcha.

[Aaron Carter]

He had his type. So then she comes out to go to the baby shower. It. When. When I'm seven, eight months pregnant, he just randomly decides that he doesn't want.

[Melanie Martin]

To go to his own baby shower.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah, to our baby shower. She and another girl that was Aaron's friend didn't go either. So it was just my friends that went. That's when I noticed. I'm like, this isn't real. Like, I cannot believe this is happening.

[Melanie Martin]

Yeah. That's hurtful too, though.

[Aaron Carter]

Like, you guys, it was a start. Like, he wanted a family so bad, but then he doesn't show up to his own baby shower. I don't understand.

[Melanie Martin]

Was he under the influence really bad? Like, you know, that probably jaded his decision making, I'm sure.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah. So that was when I noticed it never got better after that. It was just on and off. You know, he could be normal for a few days, but then he'll go back to the same behavior.

[Melanie Martin]

There was a clip that I came across online where I think it really highlighted where your mental health was during this relationship. And I know a lot of people might have taken it. You know, everybody on the Internet tries to find negativity and things where I actually kind of, like, saw the deeper. The deeper meaning behind it. But there was a. A video where you're like, I cheated on you again. And he was like, you cheated on me? And, like, was kicking you out of the house. And you're like, I need to go to the hospital. I am not okay.

[Aaron Carter]

Like, yeah, because he was stressing me out, like, trying to say that I'm cheating on him, when all I did was talk to another male. That's it.

[Melanie Martin]

Were you pregnant during this time, or was this.

[Aaron Carter]

It was when Prince was three months old.

[Melanie Martin]

Okay.

[Aaron Carter]

Because the reason why I. I kind of think I was just rebelling because he was speaking to other girls. And I'm like, you know what? I finally had his child. I'm thinking, you know what? Let's see how it feels when I literally changed my entire life, settled down with you and this and you're gonna sit and talk about me bad to your fans? And I found somebody sent me a message of him flirting with another girl, like when we were still together, and I got really upset.

[Melanie Martin]

So I was. You guys were just in a toxic relationship. It was tit for tat.

[Aaron Carter]

But I didn't really do tit for tat until, you know, after just Prince, he kind of like it. Just, just one day I'm, I just, I almost wanted, I mean, I wanted to leave him. I'm like, I'm not gonna deal with this. I'm gonna raise him on my own. Yeah, I wanted to raise him because I felt like I deserve better than that and. But then.

[Melanie Martin]

Yeah, go ahead. It broke my heart hearing that clip.

[Aaron Carter]

Though, of you saying, yeah, he made me say it.

[Melanie Martin]

I, I, oh, he made you say, I need to go to the hospital?

[Aaron Carter]

No, he made me. Oh, he clipped.

[Melanie Martin]

He was like, oh, you know the cheating part?

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah, he's like, you're talking to a guy and I'm like, it's nothing. It's just platonic. It's nothing crazy.

[Melanie Martin]

But I feel like that was reactive abuse. I feel like you were just finally like, yes, I cheated on you again, like, just to get it over with. Because I, When I was in an abusive relationship, my ex would poke and poke and poke and poke until you finally are just like, you know what? Yeah, I did it. What are you gonna do about it? You know, because you just get to the point where you're just like, you just want the arguing to stop. But to hear you say, like, I am not well, I need to go to the hospital, like, that broke my heart because stressing me out that, but that's you crying out for help, you know, and all people can take from that clip is you saying, yeah, I cheated on you. And it's like, really, you guys need to see the bigger picture here of what's really going on. You can tell in that clip that that is reactive abuse and that you are just to your wits end with that. So that really broke my heart with that situation. Take me back to where. When Prince was born. How was he? Did he come to the hospital?

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah, everything was great. After. After the baby shower incident, the girl finally left. His assistant finally left. And then I remember him calling me as soon as she left. You know, things were okay.

[Melanie Martin]

But while she was the same assistant?

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah, while she was. I was at my, on my mom's couch, eight months pregnant, uncomfortable. You know, while he's, you know, on Instagram live all day with her and they're just for no re. Like, it's just crazy.

[Melanie Martin]

Now that you think back to it, you're like, dude, what the.

[Aaron Carter]

Oh, I can't believe I was I going through so nice to that girl. Like the, the abuse she put me through by entertaining him, knowing that he's just gonna bring me back in the house when she goes. She could have just easily went home and let me be back to. In the relationship, you know.

[Melanie Martin]

Tell me about the situation that happened when you were seven months pregnant with his mom.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah. His mom was saying, you know, that he deserves better and that he can find someone else and that she's just using you for your money. Even though there's public media information about Aaron's finances as a child, how he lost all of his money due to not proper tax filing, etc, all that. So she always tried to put it on me. You know, I saw old messages of her on Facebook from 10 years ago that are on Google of him of her harassing, you know, one of her son's wife, things like that. It's a pattern I saw.

[Melanie Martin]

Yeah.

[Aaron Carter]

The same thing that she did to hit to his wife, to me.

[Melanie Martin]

So it's almost like she's like projecting her ill will for her own kids onto the wives of her children.

[Aaron Carter]

It would have been nice if people that knew her personally would have warned me. That would have been nice.

[Melanie Martin]

What happened when you were seven months pregnant?

[Aaron Carter]

They were chasing me down the stairs.

[Melanie Martin]

Who's they? Him, her and Aaron. Why were they chasing you down the stairs?

[Aaron Carter]

They were. I don't remember the reason. Some kind of argument.

[Melanie Martin]

But, you know, that's while you're seven months pregnant just chasing you down the stairs to like try to hurt you or just.

[Aaron Carter]

She was saying that, you know, I'm. I'm put. Like I was put in Aaron's life from someone to like make his life bad. I was a plant.

[Melanie Martin]

That is just crazy.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah.

[Melanie Martin]

So is she paranoid like how he is? Is she.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah.

[Melanie Martin]

A drug user?

[Aaron Carter]

No, she's not. I mean, I don't really know. All I know is she has active alcoholism.

[Melanie Martin]

Gotcha. And do you feel. Did Aaron ever talk about his relationship with his mom?

[Aaron Carter]

Well, when I first met him, he didn't even speak to her.

[Melanie Martin]

Right. And then she just came around and poked her head in when she wasn't well.

[Aaron Carter]

I saw a video after he passed away of him and Aaron on Instagram live in a car and they had an argument and he told her to leave. And that was right before he met me.

[Melanie Martin]

Gotcha. So she probably held a grudge because you guys got together right after and she feels like you took her son away from her.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah. But I didn't see her reaching out to him.

[Melanie Martin]

Right. So they just had, like, a serious toxic.

[Aaron Carter]

I didn't meet her until a year later.

[Melanie Martin]

I feel like all the relationships in his life were just constant toxicity and just fighting. Like, that's really all he knew how to do.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah. I feel like it's just he couldn't live with just a normal, steady life.

[Melanie Martin]

Who picked Prince's name?

[Aaron Carter]

He did.

[Melanie Martin]

Oh, yeah. He wanted it.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah. His legal name is Princeton.

[Melanie Martin]

Oh.

[Aaron Carter]

So we changed it to print or we had. The name is Princeton.

[Melanie Martin]

He's literally Aaron's twin.

[Aaron Carter]

I know. Thank you.

[Melanie Martin]

He's so cute. Like, he looks just like little baby Aaron. Moving forward, Aaron always fought with you online. And there was a. I. I watched a clip of the live that he did before he passed away, and you're blowing up his phone, and finally one of the last things you say to him is, you are going to die.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah. I just. I hate thinking about, like, why did I. Like, I wish I knew how to.

[Melanie Martin]

Handle an addict better, but, I mean, to me, I didn't take that as you trying to be hurtful. I took it as you saying, like, you're going to die.

[Aaron Carter]

It was kind of like, honestly, I would have to say I didn't know how to handle it anymore. And I just wanted people to know that he was dead, like, what was going on. Because I was scared.

[Melanie Martin]

Right.

[Aaron Carter]

And I wanted people to possibly help, you know?

[Melanie Martin]

But that's what I took it as. I took it as you're like, I.

[Aaron Carter]

Didn'T know what to do anymore. I was like, I was. I think I was just so tired that week and so exhausted from all the craziness that was going on. I didn't know how to handle it.

[Melanie Martin]

Can you.

[Aaron Carter]

I think my body just shut down because my brain.

[Melanie Martin]

When you're.

[Aaron Carter]

I didn't know what to do when you. Anymore.

[Melanie Martin]

When you're in those types of relationships, they. They consider the trauma that gets caused to your brain, like, brain damage, because it. It's like years of brain damage, especially being. Not calling Aaron a narcissist, but being in a narcissistic relationship or toxic relationship, it causes brain damage to you because it's that hurtful. And just the whole, you know, toxicity of the relationship takes its toll on you emotionally, and it's not good. Can you take me in to the last week of his life? What was that like, you were you. So we.

[Aaron Carter]

I'll never forget. It was Halloween, and unfortunately, I tech. I. I was there. I. I was. I had to go to my mom's home to see Prince. So I would drive four hours just to see my son.

[Melanie Martin]

Let's. Let's re. Let's circle back.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah.

[Melanie Martin]

You guys had lost custody of Prince. Can we touch on that situation? What happened with that situation?

[Aaron Carter]

Well, we had an active case because the fans were calling, and, you know, he was live all day, and they had. They were wondering, like, what's going on? Like, you know, this is not like, he's smoking in the house. And just so.

[Melanie Martin]

Because he would be on live all day long showing you guys his lives, the fans called CPS and were like, you need to do an investigation. It's crazy.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah. So, I mean, just as far as that. It just never. He had drug tests. And I remember it was Halloween day.

[Melanie Martin]

Me.

[Aaron Carter]

And I'm like, babe, you have a test. Like, you need to go. And I have to go see Prince. It's been a couple days. Like, I miss him. I'm gonna go see. We just got back from a show that he did with his manager, who was giving him stuff, so. And we were fine. You know, we went to Minnesota, went to Mall of America. Just a couple of days.

[Melanie Martin]

So they had taken prints and given prints to your mom. How long did your mom have prints for?

[Aaron Carter]

For a couple months.

[Melanie Martin]

Okay, gotcha. So they didn't give you a choice. They were just, like. Pretty much like, hey, we're removing him from the home.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah. They said he couldn't live at Aaron's house.

[Melanie Martin]

Gotcha.

[Aaron Carter]

So I was living back and forth, so I'm in my head all the time. Is my kid okay? Is Aaron okay? Two hours. And I'm, like, trying to find. I even bought an RV for him to live in next to, like, the house so that I can keep an eye on him being basically. But he didn't really. He always wanted to stay at the house. It was really hard.

[Melanie Martin]

My heart breaks for you.

[Aaron Carter]

Thank you. I really did love Aaron. And, like, I just. I'm sad that he didn't see how much I loved him and how much I wanted, like, it to work out.

[Melanie Martin]

I think he knew. Okay. I really do think he knew. I mean, you guys. The only two people who really know what went on in that relationship is you two. It doesn't matter what any of us on the outside think at all, you know? And I think that Aaron wouldn't have had a child with you.

[Aaron Carter]

And yeah.

[Melanie Martin]

Kept going back and forth with you. Had there not been some sort of love there or have him knew that you loved him. And I think he might have hurt you the way that he did because they, you know, it's the old saying. You hurt the ones that you love the most.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah.

[Melanie Martin]

Which is up. But it's so real.

[Aaron Carter]

He pushed away everybody that was actually beneficial in a good way in his life. It's really sad.

[Melanie Martin]

And people. But his, like, team let him do that and you didn't. Oh, you kept coming back.

[Aaron Carter]

His team wanted money. Aaron. Aaron was really manipulated. Like, he would just give money away to people. It's really sad.

[Melanie Martin]

That's a Sagittarius spirit. That's how my husband is too.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah. He would just give, you know, expensive watches to people and his managers. And he had really slimy assistants, male and female, and they would always get paid, you know, way more than they should. And they would take his money when he was under the influence, trying. I even found, after he died, a assigned paper, but not. Not authorized of a To be executor of his will by an assistant. He was this.

[Melanie Martin]

So creepy.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah. But it wasn't finalized. But Aaron signed it. But it wasn't finalized in his computer. Yeah. He's only 34. He was only 34. And he was trying to be his executor of his. His estate. I have that in my phone, too.

[Melanie Martin]

I just feel like he didn't have anybody around him that loved him. Where was his brother in all of this?

[Aaron Carter]

So I'll have to say that I think that they had boundaries from years of dealing with what I dealt with and that they kind of. It's their choice, you know, they had boundaries on what they wanted.

[Melanie Martin]

Yeah. You have to have hard boundaries when.

[Aaron Carter]

They had children and stuff to protect.

[Melanie Martin]

Which is completely understandable. That's how I am with. With both my sisters. I have to draw hard boundaries with them because if not, it's always just some weird. Like, it's never a normal situation with them. So take me into this last week, and I can tell whenever you started talking about it, how much it hurts you.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah.

[Melanie Martin]

So, you know, I don't.

[Aaron Carter]

Because, I mean, there's so many things I wish I did differently.

[Melanie Martin]

I hate that.

[Aaron Carter]

And I blame myself almost all the time.

[Melanie Martin]

I'm sorry.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah.

[Melanie Martin]

It, like, makes me want to tear up because I just can't imagine. I couldn't imagine losing not only the father of my child, but just the. The man that I really thought I was going to spend the rest of my life with. So I just want you to know my heart really aches for you on that.

[Aaron Carter]

Thank you.

[Melanie Martin]

So take me into this last week. You guys were together or you weren't?

[Aaron Carter]

Well, we were together. Halloween. He passed away November 5th. So technically, I saw him, what, that would be six days before he died. I left to go see my son. I wasn't on Instagram because I was spending time with my son. I even went trick or treating. But I think that was the night that he did something that I had never seen him do before. And he went to rehab for it back in 2017. It was for inhaling this thing called air duster. And you can die from. Can give you brain damage. It's really. It's really bad.

[Melanie Martin]

Yeah.

[Aaron Carter]

Huffing anything.

[Melanie Martin]

Yeah, it's always scared me. I. I had friends that were huffers when I was growing up, and I never understood.

[Aaron Carter]

I never knew what that is. I've never seen. Mary told me he would never touch it, you know, but.

[Melanie Martin]

So he did have a problem with huffing before, went to rehab for it. You, in the whole relationship had never seen him huff anything.

[Aaron Carter]

I've seen him once before. He did it the last time he passed away.

[Melanie Martin]

When was the last time?

[Aaron Carter]

So he did it a month before he passed away. And his manager was in the house, and they. They kicked me out. They didn't want me there. They. There's a. Actually a video of me saying, you need to go to rehab. And I came to the house and his friend was, like, trying to kick me out. They put an article saying I was stalking the premises, trying to make me look bad. But then Aaron turned off the camera because in the video, I said, you need to go to rehab, please. And his manager was like, get out of here. The late manager of him that was like, providing substances for him. And actually, on the autopsy of his death, there is a pill bottle of his name in the autopsy found in the bathroom.

[Melanie Martin]

The manager. Why hasn't the manager been charged with anything?

[Aaron Carter]

I don't know. I don't really. What. I don't even know how to comment on that because I don't know.

[Melanie Martin]

There's so many. Like, it's just crazy. I don't know. I just feel like not only did, you know, the fans and the people who are around Aaron fail him, the judicial system is still failing him even after his death. You know, it's just gonna happen to.

[Aaron Carter]

More people if they don't fix this.

[Melanie Martin]

Make examples of people. Absolutely. So he. You saw him huff the month before yeah. And then he.

[Aaron Carter]

It was almost like a cry for help, you know, I noticed.

[Melanie Martin]

What. What do you think triggered such a.

[Aaron Carter]

Brutal spiral from getting your Prince taken away? I almost feel like I wish I could help people in addiction that lose their children, because I feel like it's just. It's just some people can't handle losing their children, even though they lost it in the first place because of their addiction. But I wish that the CPS didn't treat him like a. Like, they treated him pretty fair, like, pretty poor. Like, really bad. Like, I understand he wasn't doing what he needed to do. And I even stated that online. I'm like, you need to, like, finally do this. Like, get sober, please. I've even said it before.

[Melanie Martin]

Would he not go into rehab? Like, did you ever draw a hard line in the sand and be like, yo, if you don't go to rehab, I'm going to leave you?

[Aaron Carter]

I said, do you really want. Want our. My mom to raise Prince and then me have to live somewhere else in an apartment with your son? And then this is the. This is something I have never stated, but his mother told him, guess what? Aerosmith got his child back when he turned 18. He got lost custody. You can just do the same thing. That's the advice she gave him instead of, no, you should straighten your life out and you should do what you need to do to get your son back at your Life. You're only 34. Instead of being positive and saying, you are only 34, you have so much to live. She said that, like, keep. Like, keep doing. He's not. Of course he's not getting a good he. I couldn't just be the only person giving him advice. He needed a whole team of people to help him, not just one person.

[Melanie Martin]

And the people he kept.

[Aaron Carter]

And then, you know, I had. Then I had to deal with him, you know, getting mad at me for talking to him that way. Like, saying, you're doing this wrong. You need to go to your drug test and then stop babying me. Stop bossing me around. I had.

[Melanie Martin]

How was he getting around these drug tests if he was still using? Is it because they were prescription pills that he was.

[Aaron Carter]

I don't know. They wanted him to go. I don't even know. I was reading emails between the lawyers and stuff, and. And they were telling his. The CPS were saying, hey, he needs to get off of this stuff like that. And they never did anything. I don't know.

[Melanie Martin]

That is wild. It is so wild to see how many angles of people that could have stepped in and changed this boy's life. Like, granted, he is a grown man. You know, that's what a lot of.

[Aaron Carter]

You know, he was a grown man, and I get that.

[Melanie Martin]

But even grown men and women need help.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah. I just wish that it was easier for. For addicts to get their kids back, you know, like, not just pull. Push them away.

[Melanie Martin]

Yeah. And just caught. And make things worse. So can you take me to the day that Aaron died, where you're at? Where?

[Aaron Carter]

I was at my mom's house.

[Melanie Martin]

And were you guys fighting at this time?

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah. Because he basically said, it's too late now. We can't get back to where we are. Like, we're not going to be a family.

[Melanie Martin]

Why did he say that?

[Aaron Carter]

Because he knew he had to go to rehab.

[Melanie Martin]

Wow. So he would rat. He wanted to just stay up. He didn't want to. To, I don't know, try to fix things.

[Aaron Carter]

I mean, of course he wanted to, but it's. Did. Did he have the willpower to do it? I don't know.

[Melanie Martin]

Right.

[Aaron Carter]

I don't know if he wanted, like, almost. I'll admit, when he was off his medication, he almost was depressed. Like, it was like he hated being sober.

[Melanie Martin]

Well, your brain has to go through when I just went through.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah.

[Melanie Martin]

I remember when I was getting sober and coming off Xanax. It is one of the hardest things you'll ever do.

[Aaron Carter]

He knew that too. He knows.

[Melanie Martin]

Yeah. It's hard. And I don't think I started feeling good. I got sober in 2017. I didn't start feeling better in my brain until 2023.

[Aaron Carter]

Wow.

[Melanie Martin]

Like, it. That's how long it takes. And I. You know, I'm not here to sugarcoat sobriety sucks, but it is the most powerful thing you will ever do for yourself.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah.

[Melanie Martin]

Is to be able to stand in a room full of people and be like, I'm sober.

[Aaron Carter]

I know. I stayed sober because I saw the spiral, and I'm like, I can't sit there and even have a bottle of wine because then it'll set a bad example. And then one of his assistants, the many assistants he had, was sending him wine. And the fans know about that, too.

[Melanie Martin]

That is crazy.

[Aaron Carter]

Delivery.

[Melanie Martin]

You were sober the whole time?

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah. I mean, in the beginning, you know, we would have wine maybe once every six months or something, like, just out of nowhere because we didn't go out that much. But, like, I didn't ever, like, pop open a bottle of wine. I would never order wine.

[Melanie Martin]

You've never done pills?

[Aaron Carter]

No. I've never been on prescriptions or anything like that. No. Maybe like during a C section, things like that. Yeah, like.

[Melanie Martin]

Or that's. I think that's mandatory if you're getting your body cut open. You definitely need something for sure. So take me to the last day of him being alive.

[Aaron Carter]

So he was found passed away on the fifth with. But we had a maid in the house and.

[Melanie Martin]

Yeah. So I have some questions about the maid. What was the situation around her? She had been working for him for a long time. Or was she a new mate?

[Aaron Carter]

No, she was new. She was given by a publicist lady that we met in a group. I know it sounds really. She lived close by, but we met her, like, in a. In the local grocery store. And she just said, I'm a fan of Aaron and I'm a publicist. Here's my Instagram.

[Melanie Martin]

So dangerous that you guys would bring people in, or he would bring people in like that because, you know, never know people's intentions either. He was so trusting, too.

[Aaron Carter]

I was too trusting, too. I feel like I was naive. Like, I didn't understand. I'm putting, like, someone in the house. I should have probably done checks on people.

[Melanie Martin]

It's just you never know anybody's intention. I'm the complete opposite. I don't trust anybody. Ask my team. Like, well, it's like, people try to.

[Aaron Carter]

Like, also they know that he's a grown man. You know what I mean? But also they know his problems too, at the same time. So I don't understand.

[Melanie Martin]

I would have just been scared that somebody would have came in to try to exploit that or, you know, make a dollar off selling stuff to the tabloids or, you know, like, you just never know where people's heads are at, especially in this day and age.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah.

[Melanie Martin]

So the maid was in the house.

[Aaron Carter]

I was. She sto. I think Aaron told her, hey, don't talk to Melanie. Because that's what he did to all of his team. When he would be upset with me, he'd be like, don't talk to Melanie. But I was still communicating with the publicist. And I said, hey, is he okay? And I read old messages after he passed away that she went to the house and was like, I have food for you in the messages. So I'm really, like, confused.

[Melanie Martin]

Right. So.

[Aaron Carter]

And then she didn't tell, like, she.

[Melanie Martin]

Wasn'T there, and she was messaging him saying, hey.

[Aaron Carter]

She wasn't telling me that she was communicating with him. I think that because he told her, hey, don't talk to Mel. Felony. So she like, she abided by his rules.

[Melanie Martin]

Like don't talk to him because he's paying her.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah. Or there, you know, she probably liked him a little more than me, you know, because he's Aaron Carter. Even though she pretended like she had my best in that, you know, she was trying to help me with him. But that week she just cared about what he said.

[Melanie Martin]

How long was she working for him before she. Before he passed?

[Aaron Carter]

So she lived locally in. In Lancaster. And I think we knew her for like two years, maybe a year and a half.

[Melanie Martin]

Right. Okay, gotcha.

[Aaron Carter]

And she was getting him a couple of jobs, but a lot of jobs got canceled because of the trolls and things like that. They would call the events and say, no, we don't want Aaron doing this celebrity event for charity. It was like a charity event and he got. He couldn't go and he wasn't going to perform because the fans called. That happened. It's just like one after the other. Everything just hurt him. But then, then he dealt with the hurt by taking pills, I think just going deeper into his addiction and drinking or doing whatever.

[Melanie Martin]

So that last day, was he still huffing also?

[Aaron Carter]

So he. The. So I was asleep when it happened. It was 3am but nobody, none of the fans sent me the d. The message or the. The recording of him. And it's just. It's so traumatized like that he was.

[Melanie Martin]

Doing it like that he was huffing online. Wow. I didn't even see those videos. I don't want to see that.

[Aaron Carter]

I don't. I don't really like to see like anything from that week. It's just too hard for me because then I can't sleep for days when I see stuff at this point.

[Melanie Martin]

I don't know how you're holding it together as well as you are. That's a lot to go through and then to lose somebody so suddenly, you know. So he's on live huffing paint.

[Aaron Carter]

He had a. He had an appointment to go to an intake for rehab on Friday, November 5th or so.

[Melanie Martin]

In his mind, he probably thinks it's like one of those. His last hurrahs before he has to go to rehab. Because, you know, I thought about it that way maybe, you know, I'm just. This is speculated.

[Aaron Carter]

He was like the guy messaged him from the line Rock because I signed him up and I paid like a down payment for the rehab. And he said, hey, can't wait for our meeting in the morning on Friday, November 4th.

[Melanie Martin]

Let's dive into that really quick. So many People call you a gold digger because of dating Aaron. And I've heard you say a few. A few times during this conversation. I paid for this. I bought him this. I did this.

[Aaron Carter]

You know, or I had to save the finances with my savings account because he was giving money away to the wrong person. And to, like a random fan on the Internet when he was. Was, you know, not in his right mind.

[Melanie Martin]

Your own money, not money that you.

[Aaron Carter]

Got no money from before Aaron.

[Melanie Martin]

Right. So we just wanted to clarify that Melanie is not a gold digger. So he was going to rehab and Tell me about the, you know, take me from there. From him going on live huffing to the phone call that you get from the public. This.

[Aaron Carter]

She let me know.

[Melanie Martin]

Right.

[Aaron Carter]

That he's drowned.

[Melanie Martin]

She just calls you and says, how.

[Aaron Carter]

Did she find out 911 on a text message.

[Melanie Martin]

How did she find out from the maid.

[Aaron Carter]

She didn't even tell me. She said, yeah. And then I heard the 911 call from online. It's like, you know, they posted the.

[Melanie Martin]

Phone call of the maid calling 911 saying that she found him in the bathtub or whatever and didn't. There's so much conspiracy around his.

[Aaron Carter]

There is a lot. And it's just like, you could go on and on.

[Melanie Martin]

Did you go to the house after he died?

[Aaron Carter]

I did, yes.

[Melanie Martin]

Did you get. Did you see his body?

[Aaron Carter]

No, no, no.

[Melanie Martin]

There's so many people that have said that he was in the bathtub a lot longer than they're saying. There's some people saying that there's no water in his lungs.

[Aaron Carter]

Do you know the autopsy says that he passed away from drowning? Xanax and die floor. I forgot how to say it.

[Melanie Martin]

The. The huffing stuff.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah. Which I will add that days prior to him passing away, we went to a no Jumper interview, which is another podcast.

[Melanie Martin]

We're not Adam 22. And Lina was just on the podcast.

[Aaron Carter]

Okay. Well, I don't want to speak bad about it because it's not nothing to do with them, but Aaron's manager came by with a huffing can. Man. And I was, like, taking photos of it. And I'm like. I was, like, worried. I'm like, I want. Like, I don't know why he brought this here. Like. Like, why did Aaron know such an interview? Yeah, I took. I have photos of it. I took photos in the studio. And I'm like, why are these people putting this around Aaron? Like, they take no accountability. Like, that's the kind of people Aaron was hanging out with. He chose to be with people like that.

[Melanie Martin]

I don't understand why his. After being a father, not being charged for some. Some sort of.

[Aaron Carter]

He's quiet. He doesn't speak anymore. And he was bashing me after in a car on video, and he was like, aaron didn't even love her. There's literally a video of me and Aaron together on his Instagram right before. Like, in the car on the way to a show.

[Melanie Martin]

Yeah.

[Aaron Carter]

And he's like, oh, they weren't together for months and he hated her.

[Melanie Martin]

That's part of the triangulation thing. Sometimes it's not always with another woman. Sometimes it's always. It could be with a different person where they have that. That. It's. It's that third person that's. They can always go to and, like, he'll run to his manager, talk about you, but then come to you and tell you how much he loves you. And that kind of seems like that was Aaron's forte of, like, trying to turn people on each other. I guess he listened to me that.

[Aaron Carter]

Day when we were in the studio and I said, hey, I'm leaving, and you're leaving with me. I don't want to be around this.

[Melanie Martin]

And he listened to you?

[Aaron Carter]

He did, actually. I'm surprised.

[Melanie Martin]

Yeah.

[Aaron Carter]

After a minute, though, it took me a minute to like, kind of tell him, hey, like, I'm not okay with this and we shouldn't be around this.

[Melanie Martin]

So how did he drown? If. If they're saying there was no water in his lungs. Was there water in his lungs?

[Aaron Carter]

See, it says no water in his. Like, I feel like the report never changed from the beginning of when he passed away. Like, it never. Like, it said the same thing, like, from the first day till the end, like, when it came out six months later or whatever. I read it and it said everything that was in his. In. In his toxicology.

[Melanie Martin]

How are you feeling whenever you found out that he passed away? What was the emotions going through you?

[Aaron Carter]

I don't know. I'm still, like. I don't know. Like, every minute I think about. Like, it's crazy to always think about that.

[Melanie Martin]

I couldn't imagine. How was his relationship with Prince? Does. Did Prince know who he was?

[Aaron Carter]

Well, he says dada still. Because I'm. I know that when he had his time with Prince, like, in the office for his, like, the social worker, like, they took photos and stuff. And like, he was always saying dada. Like, after he died and stuff. Like, he'll still see tick tock and he'll say dada and pictures and then he goes, dada.

[Melanie Martin]

Does he. Is he old enough to know, like, daddy's not here anymore or have you told him that?

[Aaron Carter]

No, I know. Me and my family talk about it. We're like, when are we gonna start.

[Melanie Martin]

Telling him that his daddy's not here?

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah.

[Melanie Martin]

So moving on, what does Melanie do now, now that Aaron has passed away? Would take me into the. The next few weeks of just your life after Aaron passed away.

[Aaron Carter]

Just trying to get back to focusing on getting my finances back in order and finding a job to take care of me and Prince, you know, something that will be stable for me and always maintain his legacy and bring awareness to child exploitation. Yeah, like, bring awareness to, you know, I know, I know why they don't put kids in tv. And yeah, there's been a lot of documentaries about that. That and like also to. To.

[Melanie Martin]

We were just talking about JoJo Siwa. Like she's going through it right now, you know, like forgot about her going from being a child star to now a, a woman who's trans. She's. She still identifies as a female. Right. That I, you know, that's transitioning and like, is into adulthood, but also, you know, is lesbian. Is she lesbian? Is a lesbian now. So it's like, like, you know, these kids go through, you know, these childhoods of being in the spotlight and then it's like once they turn a certain age and the, the, you know, Hollywood doesn't have use for them anymore, they just kind of toss them to the side and it's like these kids are just having to pick up the pieces of, you know, to be an adult, learn how to be an adult after they've lived such a fantasy life as children.

[Aaron Carter]

It's, it's easier to help kids with their mental illness at an early age than later, you know what I mean? So like, I feel like, you know, 30 years ago they didn't have so many people talk about mental illness, but now that people are recognizing it more, they are.

[Melanie Martin]

But we just went through something with my 15 year old daughter and when we were looking for mental health for her, like a, you know, any place to like help her with her mental health, it was impossible. I. You would be floored at how much there is. No, not resources to help children with mental health. So I think that's a great thing for you to get into. I would love to help you if you ever do get into that because, you know, I don't know where to start with that, but I would love to help children have a place to go when they need to reset, that doesn't medicate them, you know, like that helps them heal their trauma.

[Aaron Carter]

Yeah. You know, I heard what I found out that he was taking medications when he was a child.

[Melanie Martin]

Wow.

[Aaron Carter]

I didn't know and he never told me that. He told me he started when he was in like high school. I was told. I don't know if this is true though, because everything is always so back. But I was just told that he took it at it for stage fright because he was seven.

[Melanie Martin]

So I couldn't imagine giving a seven year old a Xanax, you know, or a Valium.

[Aaron Carter]

What, you know, I was, I was told this information. I. After he passed away.

[Melanie Martin]

That is crazy. So what does Melanie do now? Like, what does the future hold for you and Prince?

[Aaron Carter]

Stay with my son. And I'm just having fun, you know, like getting to go places with him and just seeing him grow. And he's going to be like his daddy. He's got his personality and his looks.

[Melanie Martin]

Would you ever let him be in the entertainment?

[Aaron Carter]

No, I decided on, you know, I was advised from people able to not do that because I mean, it just show. It's.

[Melanie Martin]

Yeah.

[Aaron Carter]

Too much has been done, especially what.

[Melanie Martin]

You just went through. Have you gone to any sort of therapy?

[Aaron Carter]

I did after he passed away, you know, with like Prince and everything. But I feel like that's the next step. It's like to go into real therapy.

[Melanie Martin]

Yeah. Take this time for you and to just heal and what you just went through is not normal and it's very hurtful. And you know, if you don't take care of it now, it will affect you later on in life. So make sure that you do, you know, if therapy is not your thing, just some form of healing, even if you get into like meditation or just trying to work through the trauma that you've just been through. Because, you know, sitting here, I've seen you kind of like choke up a couple times and it's like you, you fight it and you push it back and that's so not good to do. You got to let that out somewhere.

[Aaron Carter]

So, yeah, that's probably what happened to him is he just masked everything every day. And then more and more bad stuff happened. He's just masking it. He's not taking care of the problem.

[Melanie Martin]

I'm sorry for all you've had to go through and I can't wait to see how you turn this into something that's, you know, I don't want to say productive, but something that's healing and you know, just. I can't wait to see what you do with Prince these next few years.

[Aaron Carter]

Thank you.

[Melanie Martin]

Why don't you tell people where they can find you?

[Aaron Carter]

Ms. Melanie Martin on Instagram or Ms. Melanie xx on Tick Tock. I think.

[Melanie Martin]

Yeah, we love Tick Tock, the old ticky talkie. Thank you for sitting down with me. I really appreciate you. And I want you to check back in with me in the next couple years and come sit down, and I want to hear about all the things you're doing.

[Aaron Carter]

Yes, I would like that.

[Melanie Martin]

Sorry, I'm like, no, you're good. She's like, yes. We just had the most emotional conversation. Thank you so much for being here.

[Aaron Carter]

Thank you for having me.

[Melanie Martin]

Thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Don Blonde. I will see you guys next week. Bye.