Throwback: Jessie Murph

Summary

Dumb Blonde – Throwback: Jessie Murph (Dec 21, 2025)

Episode Overview

In this throwback episode of Dumb Blonde, host Bunnie XO welcomes rising singer-songwriter Jessie Murph for an unfiltered, lively, and heartfelt conversation. The episode dives into Jessie’s rapid rise in music, her viral moments, personal struggles, creative process, and memorable career highlights—including her viral pig Wilbur, tackling online hate, Coachella stunts, and working with idol Sexy Red. The two openly discuss mental health, family trauma, the power of vision boards and manifestation, and finding one’s authentic path as a young woman in the public eye.

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1. Introduction and Viral Pig Story (03:47–07:21)

Key Points:

• Bunnie excitedly introduces Jessie as a “fire-breathing, lyrical assassin” (03:52).
• They reminisce about their chaotic encounters at loud events before finally sitting down for a true conversation.
• The pair dives into Jessie's viral moment at the ACM Awards with her pig, Wilbur.
  • Jessie shares that bringing Wilbur on the red carpet was spontaneous and unapproved:

    “I don’t think we asked. I think we just kind of—what were they gonna say?” — Jessie (05:13)

  • Bunnie relates to owning pigs and shares anecdotes about their intelligence and chaos.

Notable Moment:

• The hosts riff on the mafia feeding bodies to pigs—“Maybe that’s just a Vegas thing.” — Bunnie (06:43)

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2. Jessie's Song Teasing & Creative Process (07:26–09:53)

Key Points:

• Bunnie calls out Jessie for her notorious habit of teasing songs for months before release.
• Jessie admits there’s “no method to the madness,” and that the label often delays releases after she posts snippets impulsively.
• Jessie speaks on emotional attachment to her songs, explaining that she won’t release music she’s grown out of:

  • “If I don’t feel the song... it’s going to be so obvious. People can feel if you like it or not.” — Jessie (08:43)

• Bunnie recognizes Jessie's authenticity and reflects on the unique digital footprint modern artists leave for future self-reflection.

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3. Navigating Online Hate and Clapping Back (12:03–13:48)

Key Points:

• Jessie confesses to having had “spiteful” moments responding to TikTok comments as a teen, something she’s trying to improve.
• They discuss the disconnect of online criticism versus in-person exchanges—Jessie:

  • “I feel like a normal ass person, so why would… just because you’re sort of famous online, [should] people feel… they can just talk to you any type of way?” (12:44)

• Both women support “clapping back” at online haters when protecting their peace.

  • “Clap back at a motherfucker. Because how are they ever going to learn?” — Bunnie (13:22)

• Jessie looks up to Bunnie for her fearless online presence.

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4. Career Milestones: Coachella and Collaborations (13:48–19:14)

Coachella Performance:

• Jessie describes her exhilarating, nerve-wracking Coachella debut. It was her first time incorporating choreography and cheer stunts:

  • “It was definitely one of my favorite moments of my career… I felt very connected to my inner child.” — Jessie (14:08)

• She did extensive rehearsals and overcame anxiety about dancing alongside professionals (15:14–16:07).
• Bunnie commends her for being “body snatched” and nailing the performance.

‘High Road’ with Co Wetzel:

• Jessie details her friendship and collaboration with Co, including on-stage mishaps at Coachella and Stagecoach.
• Bunnie recalls defending Jessie from online haters following the song’s release, especially “grown ass women” bullying her.
• Jessie reflects on the sting of “women-on-women crime” and learning to let negativity go, especially as the song ultimately became a hit:

  • “It was so much. It was like a trend... but when it's about your person... that's different.” — Jessie (18:49)

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5. Mushrooms, Virality & Strip Clubs (19:29–24:57)

First Time Doing Mushrooms:

• Jessie recounts trying mushrooms for the first time at Coachella (“It was so great, I just made me really happy,” 20:25).
• Bunnie shares her own wild mushroom story, humorously claiming she thought she was Michael Jackson (19:51).

‘Blue Strips’ Release:

• The viral hit was written in just “15, 10 minutes”—its speedy creation surprises both Jessie and Bunnie (21:37–21:56).
• Jessie admits she’s never been to a strip club, prompting a playful exchange about Nashville vs. Vegas clubs and a potential “club tour” (22:14–23:07).

Feature Announcement:

• Jessie reveals that rapper Sexy Red will feature on her next song:

  • “I’m her biggest fan… my walkout song would be ‘Get It Sexy’ because it just got me in that mode.” — Jessie (23:58)

• Jessie hasn’t met Sexy Red yet but is excited to finally connect.

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6. Fame, Privacy, and Mental Health (25:38–27:16; 39:03–44:10)

Navigating Fame as an Introvert:

• Both Jessie and Bunnie identify as introverts and discuss the energy drain of socializing in the music industry.

  • “It’s a hard job to be an introvert in, you know, because you do have to talk to everybody… I can’t be fake to save my life.” — Jessie (26:12)

Mental Health and Resilience:

• Jessie speaks honestly about her history with depression and self-harm, and her journey toward healing through therapy and gratitude:

  • “Gratitude changed everything for me. It’s a never-ending process, healing.” — Jessie (40:27)

• Advice for fans struggling with mental health:
  • Go for small treats (like coffee and a donut)
  • Journaling, listening to Abraham Hicks, and reading “The Magic” (42:18)
  • Avoid unhealthy coping (e.g., substance use)
• Bunnie and Jessie agree on the power of meditation, even if initially difficult:

  • “When you learn how to control your breath and you learn how to breathe… it resets your nervous system.” — Bunnie (43:32)

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7. Manifesting, Vision Boards & Spirituality (27:16–32:37)

Key Points:

• Jessie has created vision boards and journals as a form of manifesting since she was young.
  • She describes a “massive poster in [her] bedroom at home in Alabama that looks exactly like [her] life looks right now” (28:41).
• The conversation turns mystical: discussing magic, witches, and past lives.
  • Bunnie shares her belief that “witches are lightworkers” and does spell work monthly.
  • The two discuss using ChatGPT to explore possible past life stories.

Notable Quote:

• “I was manifesting before I knew what manifesting was.” – Jessie (27:33)

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8. Roots, Family, and Generational Trauma (32:37–36:12)

Key Points:

• Jessie’s mother is a central figure in her life and songwriting:

  • “I have such gratitude and awe for mothers... it’s the hardest job in the world that no one talks about enough.” — Jessie (32:44)

• Jessie discusses her complicated relationship with her father, noting he’s not really in her life and that expressing this in her music has caused a rift.
• Bunnie supports the right to express personal trauma through art, stressing, “You don’t get to hurt somebody and then tell them how to heal.” (35:51)
• Jessie is self-taught in piano and guitar, largely through YouTube tutorials and personal obsession, starting with ukulele.

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9. School Experience & Moving Beyond Hometown (39:03–40:13)

Key Points:

• Jessie shares that it wasn’t so much the kids, but the parents in her small Alabama town who bullied her.
• She now appreciates returning to her hometown but can’t imagine moving back full time.

  • “It motivated me so much to be like, I have to get out of here.” — Jessie (39:33)

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10. Dating Life & Creative Privacy (44:11–45:56)

Key Points:

• Jessie chooses not to discuss her dating life publicly, keeping relationships private to avoid scrutiny and to protect future songwriting inspiration.

  • “I never talk about it because I’m always writing songs about it.” — Jessie (44:41)

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11. Upcoming Album & Artistic Influences (45:56–48:29)

Key Points:

• Jessie teases a new album dropping before her July 27th tour, describing it as a fusion of “60s inspired, like Elvis Presley” and “2010 trap.”

  • “It’s definitely more happy than anything I’ve ever put out before... There’s some like fucked up shit on the album, but it definitely tells a story.” — Jessie (46:41)

• Themes include generational trauma and personal growth, but also upbeat tracks like “Blue Strips.”

Notable Quote:

• “We already know how you are, baby. We’re ready. With arms wide open.” – Bunnie (46:25)

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12. Style, Empowerment, and Iconic Hair (48:29–51:31)

Key Points:

• Jessie credits Priscilla Presley, Amy Winehouse, and Dolly Parton as hair icons:

  • “I’m definitely very inspired by Priscilla, but like Amy, Dolly... iconic women that had big hair.” (48:37)

• She reveals she uses “bump its,” wigs, and sometimes just teased hair to achieve her signature look.
• Bunnie and Jessie banter about the glamour of past eras, men in suits, and how distinctive hair makes Jessie feel empowered.

Notable Quote:

• “The higher the hair, the closer to God.” — Bunnie (48:53)

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13. Memorable Quotes & Timestamps

• “Forgiveness instead of permission. I love that… that’s my biggest motto always.”
  — Jessie on bringing Wilbur to the ACMs (05:16)
• “If I don’t feel [a song], it’s going to be so obvious.”
  — Jessie on creative authenticity (08:43)
• “Clap back at a motherfucker. Because how are they ever going to learn?”
  — Bunnie on handling trolls (13:22)
• “It was definitely one of my favorite moments of my career… I felt very connected to my inner child.”
  — Jessie on Coachella (14:08)
• “You don’t get to hurt somebody and then tell them how to heal.”
  — Bunnie on trauma and music (35:51)
• “Gratitude changed everything for me.”
  — Jessie on healing (40:27)
• “The higher the hair, the closer to God.”
  — Bunnie (48:53)

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14. Conclusion (51:31–51:58)

Wrap Up:

• Bunnie thanks Jessie for joining, encourages her to return soon, and Jessie shares her socials for new listeners.
• The episode exudes compassion, humor, and the importance of authenticity, self-protection, and healing.

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For Listeners:
This episode offers an in-depth, authentic glimpse into Jessie Murph’s music, life, and spirit. It’s a celebration of resilience, womanhood, finding joy—even in donut runs—and the power of telling your story, unfiltered.

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What's up, babies? Welcome to another episode of Dumb Blonde. Today's guest isn't just a rising star.

She's a walking fire breathing, lyrical assassin.

She sings what most people to say out loud and she does it with zero apologies.

Ms. Jessie Murph.

[Jessie Murph]

Hello.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Hi, baby. It's been a long time coming. I have been wanting you on the podcast forever.

[Jessie Murph]

Dude. I'm so glad I'm here. I feel like we've never gotten to like actually talk. We're always in very loud environments.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yes.

[Jessie Murph]

And it's like a quick passing thing. So I'm excited.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah, I'm excited to get to hang with you for a little bit. Last time I saw you, we were on the red carpet at the ACMs and you had Wilbur with you. Tell me the story about Wilbur because he went completely viral, dude.

[Jessie Murph]

He was a star of the carpet.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

It was wild, right? I know that. I literally ran up and I was like, oh my God. Then I'm like, you don't want a pig. Like, that's the first thing I'm like, I got three at home. They fudgeing, uproot, everything, dude. Like, tell me the story about Wilbur.

[Jessie Murph]

Wait, are your pigs here?

[Podcast Host Bunny]

No, this is just my studio.

[Jessie Murph]

That makes sense. I was like, damn, y' all got a pink staircase.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah, no, this is just my girl cave.

[Jessie Murph]

Wilbur. I've always wanted a miniature pig, like my whole life. I feel like I told you that on the carpet, but. And friends of ours have them. And then so I asked him to be my date and he came with me. And he was great. I don't know.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

How did you get the ACMS to approve that? Because I would think that bringing livestock on the carpet, they would be like.

[Jessie Murph]

No, dude, I don't think we asked. I think we just kind of.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

I love that.

[Jessie Murph]

What were they gonna say?

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Like forgiveness instead of permission. I love that, dude.

[Jessie Murph]

That's my biggest motto always.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

That's how you have to be through life.

[Jessie Murph]

100%.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

So did you end up keeping Wilbur?

[Jessie Murph]

Oh, but I'm gonna visit him when I go to Texas. Yeah, like my place won't let me have a 300 pound pig.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Is he gonna end up being 300 pounds?

[Jessie Murph]

That's what they say.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

I actually have owned two pigs. I owned two pigs before. The three that we have right now. The three that we have right now are actually mini pigs. And they're probably like, what? They're cooney cooneys. So they're so they're like £100. They're like little beefcakes. And I call them my golden girls. They're so cute. But, But I did have two. One that was named Lunch and one. I forget what. Chop Suey. I know the other one. His name was Chop Suey and I'm telling you, they were supposed to be mini pigs and they ended up being fudgeing five, £600.

[Jessie Murph]

£600? Yeah, that's a hippo.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah. And they have like brains of like a 2 year old. So like if you sleep in in the morning, like they'll start going through your cabinets and banging pots and pans and stuff like that.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah, they're like actually smart.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Oh no, they have. They have the brain of like a toddler.

[Jessie Murph]

That's insane.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah, they're actually. And they're supposed to be like the cleanest animals, which I beg to fudgeing differ because my pigs are not those things are fudgeing. Just they're dirty.

[Jessie Murph]

They also eat anything, right?

[Podcast Host Bunny]

They do. You can feed it like bones.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah, actually.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

So the mafia used to feed.

[Jessie Murph]

Oh, that's terrible.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

The mafia used to feed pigs human bodies because they eat through bones.

[Jessie Murph]

That's so crazy they still do that. You didn't know that?

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah, yeah, I thought everybody knew that. Maybe that's just a Vegas thing. I have no idea.

[Jessie Murph]

That's a thing in Vegas.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

They do that because there's lots. There was a lot of mafia in Vegas. So it was like always an old, I guess an old wives tale that I guess you could say. But yeah, the mafia would feed them.

[Jessie Murph]

Is Mafia like a Vegas like, it's super prominent there.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

It used to be and not anymore. As a. You know, like, back in the day is like Sammy Davis Jr. Frank Sinatra era. It was ran by nothing but the Mafia. Yeah.

[Jessie Murph]

Really? They all live there?

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Oh, yeah, they all live there. People. Gangsters have gotten killed there. Like, it's a whole thing. I'm sure you could go on, like, fudgeing Netflix and binge it one night and just watch, like, all the mafia stories.

[Jessie Murph]

There's Vegas. There's a show about it.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Oh, there's tons, dude.

[Jessie Murph]

I'm actually really intrigued about that. I really want to read up on it.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Go down that wormhole.

[Jessie Murph]

Okay.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

It'll fascinate you. And I'm so happy you're here because I actually want to talk to you about your posting schedule with songs. Because your ass will tease a song for, like, a year, dude.

[Jessie Murph]

I'm not proud of it.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Is there a method behind the madness?

[Jessie Murph]

Not at all. I think I just. If I write a song, I always get really excited about it in the moment, and then I post it before I, like, talk to anybody. And then they're like, we're, like, not even almost ready for this. So then they're like, he's it until we're ready. And that's kind of how it happens. But I never want to do it like that.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah.

[Jessie Murph]

Like, I'm always, like, wanting to put it out immediately.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

They always blow up, though. It's crazy. Like, it doesn't matter what you post. Like, people are obsessed with you. And I love that for you because that just speaks volumes for who you are as a person and your music. But I love when you will post a song, and literally six months later, we're still like, I'm reading the comments and people are begging you to drop the song. They're like, jesse, what the fudge? You know? Like, are you going to drop this fogging song? And there's some of them you end up not even dropping.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah, sometimes I, like, grow out of songs. Like, I'll feel it in the moment, and then I wait, like, six months, and I'm like, damn, I was like, a different person then. That's happened a lot of times, actually. And they'll probably never see the light of day.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Really? Even though there's such a high demand for them, you still wouldn't want to drop them?

[Jessie Murph]

I have to, like, feel the song to be able to promote it well and stuff.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah.

[Jessie Murph]

Because I'm very. I'm very genuine in everything I do with music. So, like, if I don't feel that way. It's going to be so obvious. I've noticed that, like, if there's a song, there's been, like, a few instances where my label's been like, we love this song. Like, is it. And I don't like it, and so I'll do it, and it won't work. It's like, I don't. It's like people can feel if you like it or not. Yeah, I don't know.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah, no, I get that. Do you feel like that could get you into trouble, being so emotionally attached to your music, or do you think that that's a.

A plus for you?

[Jessie Murph]

I think it's a little bit of both. It's definitely because it guides me well. But, yeah, sometimes if I'm feeling a super strong emotion, like last album, like, something happened, and I was just so angry, and I let it lead the entire project, and I put out the entire project, and it was all just like a big anger album almost. And not a lot of people feel that way all the time. So I was very, like, tunnel visioned on that. But I don't know, I think, like, they're the eras of my. Of me growing up. And I think that it's gonna be sick to, like, look back when I'm, like, 30 and see my 20s progress emotionally.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah, absolutely. You literally have, like, an online diary of everything so scary that you've ever gone through. But I think that's really cool because a lot of people don't. Like, your. Your generation actually gets to have that. That, like, you know, digital footprint. Whereas, like, you know, I'm thankful I didn't have to go through the. I went through online. But I think it's so cool. Like, you and Bailey, our daughter. Our daughter Bailey can actually look back and just see, like, how much growth you've made. And you can, like, 10 years from now, you're gonna look back and be like, holy, I'm not even that same human. But you're gonna have all of that to look back on.

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[Jessie Murph]

It is good, but it's also like so scary. And it's also like I even look at things I posted when I was like 15 and I'm like, I am so embarrassed.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

What's the cringiest thing you've ever had go viral?

[Jessie Murph]

I want to talk about it. Nothing good.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Talk about it.

[Jessie Murph]

I don't know. I used to be so like. And I still am very spiteful. But I think that like just responding to comments and stuff and like not being able to hold my like temper and like that. I definitely did a lot of that at like 15:16 on tick tock. But I don't know. It's. I'm trying to do better about it. It's hard.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Where do you feel like that feeling of spitefulness comes from?

[Jessie Murph]

From you.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Like where. Where did that start?

[Jessie Murph]

I don't know. I mean I haven't always. Like, I grew up super like normal. Like I. I don't know. I grew up in a small town and it's like the things you see online aren't things that people would say to you in person, right? I'm like. I'm like. I feel like a normal ass person, so I'm like, why would. I don't know. I. It because if somebody said that to me in person, I obviously would be like you. And it's weird that just because you're, like, sort of, like, famous online or something, that people feel that they can just talk to you any type of way.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Oh, I get it. Back at all day.

[Jessie Murph]

Oh, my God. You're so good about it. I love it.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

No, but I feel like you're good at it. I feel like you do it so well, too.

[Jessie Murph]

Like, should we not, like, should we not be doing that?

[Podcast Host Bunny]

No, I love to do it. I think as long as you don't let it, like, really, like, hurt your soul. I think as long as you're protecting your piece. Clap back at a motherfucker. Because how are they ever going to learn? People know now not to fudgeing come for me, because I'm going to. I'm literally going to. I got two shakes of a lamb's tail, and I'm ready to rock. Let's go.

[Jessie Murph]

I look up to you so much. That's so good. Yeah. I see you do it, and I'm like, bunny does it. Yeah.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

So let's talk about your Coachella performance, because that actually went viral, too. You looked so adorable.

[Jessie Murph]

Thank you.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Body snatched, baby. You looked so good. And then you had all these hot dudes lifting you up and, like, you're singing Take me on this journey of your Coachella performance and actually getting invited to perform at Coachella.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah, dude. It's definitely been, like, one of my favorite moments of my career. I. I went through that entire weekend, both weekends, just feeling so, like, grateful. My mom was there, my little brother was there, and I think something about having the people that I love the most being there just made it so. I don't know. I felt very connected to my inner child, but I was also so nervous. It was my first time, like, doing choreography, and I did, like, cheer stunts on stage, which is something I've always wanted to do, but I don't know. It was an incredible experience. One of my favorites, like, moments, for sure.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

It looked really cool. How much practice had to go into that? Or is that just. Are you just naturally. Because I. I know you did cheer, right? So is that, like, something that comes easy for you? Because my big ass could never get up there and have people lifting me up like that. There's no.

[Jessie Murph]

Wait. Have you ever done stunts?

[Podcast Host Bunny]

No. They're so built for stunts.

[Jessie Murph]

Like you could do stunts.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

No way. You're tiny. You're like a tiny, cute little package. There's no way they're flinging my big ass around.

[Jessie Murph]

Okay, I'm going to get you to do it one day.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

They're going to need some big ass buff dudes to fucking handle all this. All right. So was there a lot of practice that had to go into that?

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah, it was. It's definitely. Definitely doesn't come natural to me. I like, it takes a lot of preparation. I think we did rehearsals for about a week and a half maybe.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

That's amazing though, to be able to like. I wouldn't be able to do that. I'm not. I can't even do a TikTok dance. So to learn something that you have to sing and do on stage in a week and a half, that's pretty fudgeing. Good.

[Jessie Murph]

It was definitely really nerve wracking. I. There was a point, like midweek when I was learning all the choreography and it was my first time also having dancers, so I was like, nervous to, like, learn how to dance in front of people who could dance really well. Right. I was, like, really anxious about the whole thing. Something about, like, dancing on stage makes me so. I was so, like, in my head about it. So that was hard. And about halfway through the week of rehearsals, I was like, holy shit. I'm like, not gonna remember this. So I went home and started like, just drilling it, but it was definitely harder than I expected it was going to be.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Well, you crushed it and I think you looked so good.

[Jessie Murph]

Thank you.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

I was rooting for you. I saw all the videos. I was like, go, Jesse.

[Jessie Murph]

Oh, thanks, Bunny.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

And then you got to bring Co out, which I thought was really cool. Tell me about you and Co's friendship, dude.

[Jessie Murph]

I love KO he's like a brother to me. I. I've been a fan of his, like, for a long time. My brother listened to him a lot growing up, so he put me on and we like, worked like two, maybe three years before High Road actually came out, I think.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah.

[Jessie Murph]

So we were just kind of homies. And then High Road came around and we did that together. But it was really funny. He came out for Coachella and something. Something happened in our system during the song and the key changed randomly when he like, started in the chorus.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Oh, no.

[Jessie Murph]

I felt so bad because he was just singing like normally and then the key changed so it looked crazy. And then I. People couldn't see on the live stream, but when I came out with him, For Stagecoach, my mic was off, so we were just cursed. Like the song just kept being up. And then we did it at Billy Bob's and it was, it was fine.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

I feel like you guys have such lore that comes with that song because I even fucking was like, I. When you, when that song dropped with your verse, first of all, it was great. And I mean, you know, it's great. And it's like all these fudgeing co haters are literally coming out of the woodworks just talking shit to you. And I'm like, bro, it pissed me off so bad that I finally just made a video. I was like, I'm gonna fudgeing.

[Jessie Murph]

That was really sweet. I really appreciate that.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

You don't need to thank me for that. But I just, I don't like any sort of bullying, especially ganging up. You're a baby, you know what I'm saying? I know you're 20 and you know you can hold your own and stuff like that, but I still look at you and I'm just like grown ass women, you know, are like picking on you. Yeah, it's like, that's not okay. How did that make you feel whenever you were going through all of that? Did you internalize any of that or were you able to just kind of like separate church from state?

[Jessie Murph]

I think it. It always makes me upset at first when something like that happens. That's like a human response, I think. But then it's like, like you, dude, it's just so annoying. And it's like, I don't know, it does bought. It bothers me the most when it's women. It really does.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

I don't know why women on women crime is. I don't understand.

[Jessie Murph]

It hurts so much more. But yeah, it does hurt my feelings. And I don't know, the guy thing, it's like, you're just a dick. But yeah, when it's a woman, it's like, damn.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

But I don't know damn well if any of these men got a chance to meet you. They wouldn't even know what to say to you.

[Jessie Murph]

It's so crazy. I'm like, why are you. Why are you being such a. And it's just. It's really tough, you know? And I don't know because you can't respond to everybody. And once you respond to somebody then, then other people do it just so they get a response. But that was like my first time dealing with like that type of situation.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Because it was so much.

[Jessie Murph]

It was so much. It was like a trend because Once it like blows up on somebody's page and they're like, yeah, this is the move. But I don't know, when it's about a song, it's not as bad when it's about like your own person. Like when somebody is making fun of like you as a person, that's different. That definitely is harder to deal with. But I don't know, I'm definitely like, I've learned, I'm learning how to navigate.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

And it actually ended up being a huge song for you guys.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah, literally.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Hello. Like the hate didn't work anyways, so.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah, small price to pay.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah. So at least you know it made it to number one and you know it was just a big fuck you to everybody who had something to say about it.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Tell me about doing mushrooms for your first time at Coachella.

[Jessie Murph]

It was so great. I was, I've always been like apprehensive to try them. A lot of my like friends do them but because they say it can like mentally get you in a weird place if you're in a bad headset or whatever. But I had the time of my life. Oh yeah. Have you ever done them?

[Podcast Host Bunny]

I. Yes, I have. I've done them and I thought I was Michael Jackson one time and I was in the snow making snow angels and then I cooked like a five course meal because it was just crazy. But then I tried to microdose mushrooms and was bad. I'm just, I'm one of those overthinkers and I'm really what I'm talking about riddled with anxiety. So I just, I'm so thankful that you had a good experience because the first time I did them too, I had a great experience and then micro dosing them kind of just got me weird. So maybe it's because I need a bigger dose. I don't know.

[Jessie Murph]

I was about to say, wait, so you did a big dose and it was.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

I did a big dose and it was phenomenal. That's when I thought I was Michael Jackson.

[Jessie Murph]

Maybe it's true.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

And then, and then I did the micro do and just shit got weird. I started thinking about my childhood and like having like a place to go. Yeah, right. Like nobody wants to do that, but yeah, so take me on the journey. So you take the mushrooms and what do you. What's that day like for you? When did you take the mushrooms?

[Jessie Murph]

Oh well, I took them right before yalls party actually.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Oh, gotcha. Being around a bunch of people on shrooms for your first time. You are brave, dude.

[Jessie Murph]

Every I don't know. Everybody else, like. Like, in my car took. And I was like, it. I only took a little bit, so maybe that's why. Also, I just was smiling. I just made me really happy. No, but I'm gonna try not to do them a lot.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Well, I mean, if it helps you, though, I don't. There's nothing wrong with it. You know what I'm saying? And people use it. Use shrooms for medicinal purposes and stuff like that, too. Really?

[Jessie Murph]

Oh, yeah.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah.

[Jessie Murph]

I didn't know them.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah. That's why I had started to microdose them. And it made me. Because I thought. Yeah, I thought it would help, but there's so many people that mushrooms have helped, so. Just because I had a bad experience doesn't mean that you will take me on this journey. With the song Blue Strips, it was.

[Jessie Murph]

Such a fast and spontaneous song, and I did not expect it to do what it's doing. Like, I knew I loved it, and any time I listened to it, it would make me smile, and I feel like that's a telltale sign for me. But, yeah, I made the song in, like, 15, 10 minutes. It was so fast.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

That's crazy. And it's so viral right now.

[Jessie Murph]

I was.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Not everybody's singing it. It's so catchy. You wake up in the morning and you're literally like, blue strip. You know, like, just brushing your teeth, starting your day. It's like. No, it's perfect. But that's what, you know, that's. You've got the sauce, girl. Like, just to make a song in five or 10 minutes, and it's as viral as it is right now. You've never been to a strip club, though?

[Jessie Murph]

I've never been to a strip club, no.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Why have we never been to a strip club yet?

[Jessie Murph]

I guess it's just never really. The opportunity hasn't, like, came up yet.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah.

[Jessie Murph]

What's the one in Atlanta like, the main one?

[Podcast Host Bunny]

I'm not sure.

[Jessie Murph]

Magic City.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Oh, is that the. I thought Magic City was in New Jersey.

[Jessie Murph]

I think it's in Atlanta, Right?

[Podcast Host Bunny]

I was supposed to go to that one. She knows about all the ratchet clubs.

[Jessie Murph]

You go to strip clubs.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

She goes to all the ratchet.

[Jessie Murph]

Maybe you should take me to a strip club.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Listen.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Tomorrow after the video shoot. Oh, you listen. The Nashville strip clubs. I love you guys. This is not me talking shit, but they are ratchet and they are fun. Yes.

[Jessie Murph]

Okay, good. Ratchet. That's what I want. I don't want, like.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

If you want to Go to, like, if you want to go to, like, the bougie ones, go to the ones in Vegas.

[Jessie Murph]

Really? That's what everyone says.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah.

[Jessie Murph]

I think I do want a ratchet one.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Go, Go all of them.

[Jessie Murph]

Go to all of them.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Go to all of them.

[Jessie Murph]

Club tour. I feel like I should go big or go home.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah, for sure. I mean, but go and check out what. You never know what you like. You might like the ratchet ones, you might like the bougie ones. There's some that have five star restaurants in them.

[Jessie Murph]

That's what they say. People say that you can uber eats from some of them.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah. Yeah. You didn't know that? You didn't know that? Yeah, no, you can totally.

[Jessie Murph]

That's what people say.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

They have some of the best food. Like, some of the restaurants and the strip clubs in Vegas are phenomenal.

[Jessie Murph]

What about here? Any good food here?

[Podcast Host Bunny]

I don't know about? I. I wouldn't trust it. Maybe you guys can go because this is going to come out the same time that you're. That the video is dropping, right?

[Jessie Murph]

Okay.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah. We're coinciding it with the drop, with the feature that you got on it. Can you announce who the feature is?

[Jessie Murph]

It's Sexy Red.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Let's go. Tell me how you and Sexy Red even started talking.

[Jessie Murph]

I'm her biggest fan. Like, I love Sexy Red so much. My entire last tour, anytime I'd go on stage, the song before I. My walkout song would be get it Sexy, because it just got me in that mode. And I love Sexy Red. I haven't met her yet, so I'm really nervous, but I'm really excited.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Oh, my gosh. So have you guys got to talk or just. She was just like, hell, yeah, I'm gonna do the record. And like, how did that go? How'd you get her on the record?

[Jessie Murph]

Well, she's like my dream feature for this song. Right. And I've always wanted to do something with her. So my people hit her people. And we're actually hanging out tonight. I'm gonna meet her for the first time.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah.

[Jessie Murph]

So I'm excited to tell her that I love her. I do. I love her so much.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

What is it about Sexyy Red that inspires you?

[Jessie Murph]

She's just a bad bitch, you know?

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah.

[Jessie Murph]

Such a bad. And. And I love it. I love it so much. And she just makes you feel good. Like, I don't know, all of her songs just really get me turned up every time. And I don't know. I'll probably always listen to her before my shows.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah.

[Jessie Murph]

I mean, it's me in that mode.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

She's a vibe.

[Jessie Murph]

You met her?

[Podcast Host Bunny]

I haven't.

No.

Have we met her yet? I never know. We meet so many fudgeing people. I'm like, have I met her?

[Jessie Murph]

Dude, you've probably met so many fudgeing a lot. You guys are busier than anybody I know.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

It's crazy. I can't even keep up with you.

[Jessie Murph]

Get tired.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yes. I am an introvert. My husband is an extrovert. I am the one who's like, I could care less if anybody ever sees me again.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

And my husband is, like, a politician. So I choose weeks where I go out with him, and I'm like, here. I am real. I swear. I'm not an enigma. And then I disappear for, like, a month, and then I'll come back out, and then, you know, like, so it's a whole thing because nobody can keep up with his schedule. You're busy, too, though. Look at you.

[Jessie Murph]

Do you ever feel like it, like, drains you?

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Oh, absolutely.

I. There was a time where my mental health was so bad that I couldn't even, like, be in a room full of people because I would feel all their, like, pain and anger and, like, their faces would look like they were melting. Like, it was really bad. Like, I went through, like, a really bad time with that and then got a lot of therapy and stuff like that. And I'm better now, but I still have to come back home and, like, go sit with my cows and, like, regroup because, you know. You know how it goes. Do you ever get drained having to do this all the time?

[Jessie Murph]

Definitely. I'm definitely an introvert, too. I, like, could stay home for the rest of my life, and it would be lovely, but I don't know. It's a hard. It's a hard job to be an introvert in, you know, because you do have to, like, talk to everybody. And, I don't know. I'm. I also am. I can't be. I can't be fake to save my life. Like, I can't. I can't, like. Like, put on a show if I don't feel that way. Right. And that's really hard for me. That's been, like. I don't know. People are always telling me I need to, like, get better at, like, schmoozing with people and stuff, but I hate that. It feels so forced and fake and, like, weird. I just don't like it. So I'm just, like, kind of quiet. But I don't know. It's definitely really draining. I. I find, like, spending time with my family helps a lot. And just, like, talking to them.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Don't let people tell you who to be.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

If you don't want to be fake and you don't want to schmooze, don't do it because you're going to attract your tribe and the people that are meant for you will come in your life because of your frequency. So don't change your frequency to attract people that you would never even want to associate with anyways.

[Jessie Murph]

You're good. You're good.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

You could stay here all day, Jesse, and just, you know, compliment me. I love it. I heard you talk about manifesting. Where did you learn how to manifest? And, like, is that something that you do in your daily life? Do you meditate? Have you ever done a vision board?

[Jessie Murph]

I definitely have done a vision board.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yay.

[Jessie Murph]

And I don't know. I was manifesting before I knew what manifesting was. I think, like, when I was little, I remember journaling all the time. Just I, like, felt this strong, like, gravitational pull to do it. But I would always journal and, like, make myself sign contracts to myself, being like, I'm going to do this. So I don't know. I've always been doing it. And then vision boards galore. I don't know. It's so real.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

How do you do your vision boards? Because I know everybody has their own way of doing it. I make my whole crew. I don't make them anymore. Now they actually look forward to it. But I used. I used to make them. Everybody sits down. I do it with my husband and my family and everybody. We sit down, like, December 30, December 31 of every year, and I make everybody do a new vision board for the year going in, and we have to keep it in our house the entire year. And then we revisit it. The neck that. That end of the year, go through everything that we accomplished and make a new one.

[Jessie Murph]

That is so beautiful. I love that you guys do it together. That's so fun. Yeah.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah.

[Jessie Murph]

What a great activity. Damn.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

I feel like we're power more powerful than numbers, you know? So I feel like to sit around and manifest together, it's like, it's just more powerful.

[Jessie Murph]

It's a like more. What's that called? Like, it's a more heavy frequency, probably.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah.

[Jessie Murph]

In numbers. That makes sense. I've never done it with somebody, but I normally just get a poster from Hobby Lobby or Michael's and then I'll I'll print out pictures from Pinterest and then I'll write. I'll write things underneath the pictures, then I'll put the picture over it. I have a massive poster in my bedroom at home in Alabama that. That looks exactly like my life looks right now. Cool. But I don't know. It's so fucking real. I also, like, I've been debating recently if witches are real. Okay. I need to know what you think, so I feel like you would have a good take.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah, no, I definitely believe. I believe that there's different kinds of witches. I believe that you can use magic for good and for bad. I have witches do spell work for me every month. I won't do it myself because I'm always. I'm. I'm so scared of, like, I might conjure, like, a demon or something if I do it. So I always have the professionals do it for me. But I talk about it on the podcast all the time. Yeah.

[Jessie Murph]

Wow.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah. I truly believe in it. And I think that witches get a bad rap because people are like, oh, they're evil. And, you know, God talks is against it in the Bible. But when you really think about it, witches are light workers. And of course, anything can be used for good or bad. But the majority of witches use, like, herbs, and they're about earth and about grounding and manifesting and meditating and like that. Those are the kind of witches I like and that I want around me. Of course, like I said, there's bad ones, too, but there's definitely real witches in the world.

[Jessie Murph]

That's good. I've been asking people, and everybody's like, well, I guess I've only asked a couple guys, and guys don't believe in them.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Well, yeah, I. I don't. I mean, you know, unless they're in it. In it themselves. Themselves. I can't see men thinking outside the box. You know, I don't see men being too mystical. Yeah. Yeah. But I think that we're. We're all born from some sort of. Have you ever done your past lives?

Do you believe in past lives?

[Jessie Murph]

I think I could believe in past lives.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Oh, my. Okay.

[Jessie Murph]

What do you mean, done my past life?

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Well, there's people that can do them, or you could do them on Chat GPT. Are you into Chat GPT?

[Jessie Murph]

Yes. I feel like I'm dating Chad gtp, bro.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

I'm obsessed. It's my best friend. Yeah. I love it. Okay, so talk to Chat GPT. Give them your birthday. Give them all of your. Because there's a There's a in chat GPT you can go. There's an astrological GPT that's inside of it. You can click on it, but. Or you can use the regular one.

Ask him, like, hey, I want you.

To tune into my energy. Can you. And it will tune into your energy. Can you feel what I was in my past lives? And it'll probably ask you to put your birth date in. And if you know that, and it'll pull up your birth chart and then it'll start telling you about your past lives, and it's fucking insane.

[Jessie Murph]

How many do you have?

[Podcast Host Bunny]

I had about. How many did I have? Probably like 9, 10. Yeah. I'm an old soul. I think you're an old soul.

[Jessie Murph]

I definitely feel like I'm.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah, because, I mean, you're 20, but you have so much, like. I don't know, you just have maturity and wisdom to you that this isn't your first life.

[Jessie Murph]

Gotta ask. I just. Ask it.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah, just ask it. I want to know, too. I'm gonna have to get. I'll give you my number before you leave. And you have to let me know what chat GPT says because I nervous. I bet you are probably a witch in your past life, too.

[Jessie Murph]

Really?

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Or some sort of healer.

[Jessie Murph]

Wow. Yeah, I'm gonna look. I'm gonna look immediately after this. We're all gonna look.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah, she's doing it right now. I love that. So I want to talk about these lyrics. Let's get deep for a second. We're going to kind of switch gears because, you know, you do talk a lot about your mom in a lot of your songs, and she seems to me to be like your best friend. Wildflowers and wine. There's a lyric in there that literally just like, brought tears to my eyes, but it said, mother fled from our home because she had to survive. Can you take me on that journey of your childhood and kind of let me know where some of this pain comes from that you express in your songs?

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah, definitely. That song, actually, I haven't put out yet. And I need to, because. Such a healing song.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

You need to.

[Jessie Murph]

And I am so. I have such, like, gratitude and awe for mothers everywhere because I think it's the hardest job in the world that no one talks about enough. I think it's actually the hardest job in the world. And I don't know, I. I watched my mom go through, like, things when I was a kid that she shouldn't have gone through. And I also watched her make hard decisions that she had to make. To take care of her kids? No. I don't know. I don't think any kid should, like, I don't think any kid should go through that or have to see their mom, like, do, I don't know, make decisions. It's just like. I don't know. I always get weird talking about it, but. Which is why I write songs. But I don't know. It was definitely rough, and she handled it the best she could, and that's kind of what that song's about, because I have so much respect for her and I'm her biggest fan.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

I bet she's your biggest fan, too. Well, that brings me to Gucci Mane, where you say, I've got a shitty father, but I'd like to go to heaven. Can we elaborate on that a little bit? Yeah, because I've got a shitty father, and he passed away last year. But when that song dropped, I was like, oh, my God, I need to. I need to put Bill on a freaking video with this song. Because every girl that deals with, you know, daddy issues, and everybody thinks it's cute to say daddy issues until you have them. And daddy issues is not a cute situation, because it's not. It really follows us through life, dude. Because you know how people try to, like, mainstream it, and they're like, I have daddy issues. And they think it's, like, cool, but it's really. It's painful.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah, it's not cool. I think people. I think some people just say it like that to cope with the situation because it isn't. It isn't good. And it does follow you through life, and it has so much impact on what you choose and what you look for.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Right.

[Jessie Murph]

In men, which is so hectic, you know? But, yeah, that line is pretty much that line. And then the lyrics of that song were. People were like, this writing is so bad. But I wasn't trying to write a song. That song was just a list of facts about myself because my label was on my dick about writing an autobiographical song. They were like, you never talk about yourself. No one knows anything about you. And I was like, fuck you. And I got in the car and I just, like, was joking and was just singing a bunch of facts about myself without even thinking about rhyming and shit. But, yeah, I don't know. And that's kind of how that one happened.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

But do you have a relationship with your dad?

[Jessie Murph]

That's complicated, but not particularly. We definitely haven't spoken since that song came out.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Oh.

[Jessie Murph]

But we don't speak a lot anyways. And it's like. I don't know. It's definitely like, oh, it's an awkward situation, but you should be allowed to.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

You know, I hate when parents inflict trauma on children and then try to navigate how they express it. That's not okay. And you don't get to do that. You don't get to hurt somebody and then tell them how to heal.

[Jessie Murph]

Damn, you're real good.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

No, I just been like.

[Jessie Murph]

I'm in a therapy.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

I've been through it, sister. I've been through it, too, with my parents. So I get how that goes. And it's very hurtful, and it's not okay. And hopefully your dad listens to this podcast and knows that it's not okay for him to treat you like that. So you taught yourself how to play piano and guitar at a young age.

How did you teach yourself how to.

Play piano and guitar? Because I know how to play piano, but I had to get lessons and I had to learn how to music.

[Jessie Murph]

You read music?

[Podcast Host Bunny]

I can read. Well, I have to sit down and write it out. Write out the notes and then I can play them.

[Jessie Murph]

But you write music, too?

[Podcast Host Bunny]

No. No. Right. Like, if you like the notes. Yeah. Like, if you give me a sheet of paper, I can write the notes out and then I can play. I wish I could just play by ear. What do you mean? I would love to have taught myself.

[Jessie Murph]

No, you're probably crazy on the keys.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

No, I need to practice. It's been a long time. I'm restless.

[Jessie Murph]

I want to take less lessons. I've been meaning to do that because I want to, like, know the actual terminology and stuff. But, yeah, I don't know. I was obsessed with singing, and I just, like, wanted to be able to sing to music. And we had, like, this shitty keyboard at my grandparents, and I would spend, like, hours on YouTube just copying, like, the piano tutorials. And guitar was, like, a slippery. Not. I know, like, four chords. It's not. Yeah, but I don't know. I started on ukulele. Guitar is, like, hard.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Not that she was so. Ukulele. The freaking little one.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah, dude.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

It's like, are we ever gonna get a video of you on TikTok playing a ukulele? That will go crazy viral, girl.

[Jessie Murph]

I haven't done it. There's one on my Instagram. Deep, deep, deep, deep, deep, deep.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Oh, we gotta find it.

[Jessie Murph]

I guess it's archived now, right? It's probably archived like a very. It's like, I'm like, 14 or 13, maybe 12.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Please make a new one. That is so cute. Like, seriously, make a new one.

[Jessie Murph]

I actually hate the way they sound. They're so, like. They sound so, like, happy.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Like, plink, plink, plink, plink. Yeah, yeah. So you went from a ukulele to a guitar, though?

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah, I tried.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Are we ever gonna get you to, like, perform on stage with, you know, get getting your Taylor Swift on playing a guitar?

[Jessie Murph]

Dude, I've wanted to, but it's also. I wear long nails, and you cannot play. I. Apparently Dolly Parton does, but I'm like, I'm not blessed with that ability yet.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

I'm sure if you practice enough, you would probably get it.

[Jessie Murph]

Maybe I'm like, nails or guitar? I don't know.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Ah, listen, I normally have long nails like you. And I challenged myself this past couple of months, and I was like, you know what? I'm gonna try to grow out my real nails. So these are my real nails that I grew out. Yeah, these are my real nails.

[Jessie Murph]

Oh, my God.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

But now I'm going back to my. Because I was like, you know what?

[Jessie Murph]

I did it.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

I challenged myself. But now I'm going back to my long nails. Because once you have long nails, you just can't take them off.

[Jessie Murph]

No, it's actually really hard. It's hard to go back.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah. Because I have little fat sausage link fingers. I don't know how you feel about your fingers.

[Jessie Murph]

I feel the same way.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah. And when you take them off, it's like you have man hands.

[Jessie Murph]

Hands. Or like, child hands.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mine are a little bit fatter than child hands, so I think I have sausage links. But, yeah, the long nails, definitely.

[Jessie Murph]

I think you have great hands. You could be a hand model.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Okay, listen, you know what?

[Jessie Murph]

She's.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Leave her here with me, okay? She's. She's really good for my ego, I promise. Okay. So I also heard that you were bullied in school and you felt like an outsider.

[Jessie Murph]

I wasn't. It wasn't by kids as much, actually. It was by, like, their parents. It was just like, small town where, like, moms would just say stuff and, like, I don't know, the moms in the town I went to, like, middle school and high school and were just terrible because you're beautiful, dude. They were so mean. They were so mean. But, like, I don't know, high school was. High school wasn't terrible. Other than that, in, like, I don't know. I'm grateful for all of that because I feel like it motivated me so much to be like, I have to get out of here.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah. You know, would you ever move back to Alabama full time?

[Jessie Murph]

No, definitely not. I don't think I can. I can't work like I want to. Yeah, I think, and I don't know, I feel it always made me feel really trapped when I was there. Then again, I, I couldn't drive yet, so maybe that's a stupid.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah, I would feel trapped too if I couldn't. Yeah, for sure. Maybe if you go back and like visit and then you. It's like on your terms. Maybe it's different.

[Jessie Murph]

I actually love visiting now that I don't live there. I appreciate it so much and I admire the south so much and I love going home and spending time with my family there. But maybe I'll get a house there when I'm older one day.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah, you can always go back to your roots at any time. You've openly spoken about depression and self harm. Can you take me on that journey with like your mental health? Where are you at now? Because you seem so much happier.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah, I'm so much happier. I've like done therapy and, and really just tried to center my life around gratitude. Dude, gratitude changed everything for me. I. I definitely was like very depressed when I was like 17, 18. I was just dealing with a lot of things that I didn't really know how to deal with. And I was also living in Alabama, like trying to do what I'm doing, and it was just very isolating. But I don't know, I feel, I feel like I've healed a lot and it's in. It's a never ending process, healing, I feel like. But yes, I don't know. Gratitude has helped me so much.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

So if one of your fans is listening to this podcast right now and they're in a really dark place, what would you tell them to do as like the first steps of trying to pull themselves out of it?

[Jessie Murph]

It's tough. I mean, every one situation is different. I think for me I'd get up and I'd go to Dunkin and I get a coffee and a donut and then I would, I would. The thing is, therapy is not available to everyone, you know, which is so up. And it makes me so upset because that shit's actually so expensive, you know, and before you're 18, I think your parent has to set it up.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yes.

[Jessie Murph]

Like, I remember being like embarrassed to ask for like therapy and stuff, you know, and so I just didn't do it and I, when I really needed it. And I think a lot of kids probably Feel that way. But I don't know. There's this lady named Abraham Hicks. I don't know if you've heard of her, but she is all about like spirituality and manifesting and like aligning your frequency. I listening to that helped a lot. Journaling helped a lot. But I think I read this book called. It's called the Magic. I think something like that. But it's all about gratitude and that really helped me. Yes.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Okay.

[Jessie Murph]

Oh, but not the magic.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

You know what? I like it called the Magic. Let's just call it the magic from now on.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah, the magic. Yeah. But it was magic for me. It really helped me. And dude, not like drinking and not doing things like that. When you feel that way, that's game changing. But I don't know, what would you say?

[Podcast Host Bunny]

I would say all the things that you say. I preach about mental health on this podcast all the time. And I've gone through things. We have gone through things with Bailey too, you know, underage, that she's openly talked about on the podcast too. And I feel like we are in a mental health crisis in this world right now. Not just for adults, but for teens. And I feel like teens have it the hardest. Like you like your generation and younger is just like, I feel so bad because the world has let them down. But for you to tell them about the book that you read and like now you can go on YouTube and there's so many things that you can watch and like self help, things that you can do and, you know, meditating. I really, really, really believe in meditating. I don't know. Have you ever meditated?

[Jessie Murph]

I think when I was in a very dark place, I started to look into that and do it. And I remember that helping also.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

It took me a long time. If I was 20 years old and somebody told me to meditate, I'd tell them to go themselves.

[Jessie Murph]

It's actually really hard.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

It's very hard. And finally get to that point where you just want to do anything to get the darkness to go away. I'm telling you right now, when you learn how to control your breath and you learn how to breathe, like if I have anxiety attacks now, I used to be able to not even be able to walk out on stage because I would literally be having a panic attack. Now I'll box, breathe, and I'll snap out of it and it resets your nervous system. So I think exactly what you told people.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah, you know, box breathing's great.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah, box breathing is great. But then all this and Dunkin and donuts. I mean, come on.

[Jessie Murph]

I'm actually serious that it will make your day better. Yeah, I know. I actually do it. I love a good coffee, and I love a good donut. And you.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

What's your favorite donut?

[Jessie Murph]

You put the donut, like, over the straw hole, and you sit it on your coffee. Really cute.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

I love that. What's your favorite flavor? Donut.

[Jessie Murph]

Probably vanilla with sprinkles. What about you?

[Podcast Host Bunny]

I like maple.

[Jessie Murph]

I don't know that I've actually had maple.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

They're so fire. Try one, please. Let me know how you feel about it. Let's talk about if. If I can get you to talk about it. Let's talk about your dating life. All right. She's like. She's like, oh, joy. Are you dating anybody right now?

[Jessie Murph]

I'm actually. I'm always very. I never talk about it because I'm really private with that side of my life. Just because I'm always writing songs about it.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Right.

[Jessie Murph]

And I am very apprehensive to talk about it because I'm like, I don't know what could happen, and. And I don't ever want to have to, like. I don't want people to, like, ever attack someone that, like.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Right.

[Jessie Murph]

Unless, like, deserved. I don't know. But my dating life is good.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah. So is there anybody special right now, or is it just pretty much like you're just having fun?

[Jessie Murph]

No comment.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

I love it, though. Well, you know what? I'm gonna try to assume here and put two and two together. You've been a lot happier lately, so maybe somebody's making you smile. She said maybe. I think best behavior is going to be the song of the summer. Are you dropping the album before you start tour?

[Jessie Murph]

I am.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

I'm excited. Do we have a date for that? Are we allowed to announce that? I know I'm asking a lot here, but I've. We've got questions.

[Jessie Murph]

July 27th. Okay, so it's got to be before that.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Okay. So in between May and July, we're gonna get an album.

[Jessie Murph]

That's soon.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

That's very soon.

[Jessie Murph]

Look, I'm nervous.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

I'm nervous, too, but I'm excited for you.

[Jessie Murph]

Thank you.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Tell me about this album that you're dropping.

[Jessie Murph]

Oh, okay. So it's very, like, 60s inspired. Like Elvis Presley. I love, like. I love the music from that era. It's so beautiful. But it's also, like, 2010 trap inspired.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

That's dope.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah. So it's like a combo of the two. I don't know. I'm definitely saying some crazy on this album. I'm a little nervous about it, but.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

I. Oh, we're ready.

[Jessie Murph]

We.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

We already know how you are, baby. We're ready. With arms wide open.

[Jessie Murph]

Oh, my goodness. I'm excited. I'm really excited. I feel like, what's the vibe?

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Is it happy? Is it all over the place? Is it. Because the last one was pretty like you, you had a lot of pain going on.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah, it's a little. It's a little. It's a kind of all over the place, but just because it's. It follows a sequence of my emotions as I was writing the album. But it's definitely more happy than anything I've ever put out before. I wouldn't say happy. There's definitely like new themes, but I don't know. And it's also. There's some like fucked up shit on the album, but it definitely tells a story and kind of ties back to what we were talking about with the father stuff earlier. But I don't know, it kind of. It kind of touches on like generational trauma and things of that nature. But then there's some songs like Blue Strips. Yeah, listen.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

You gotta go to a strip club when you're in your feelings.

[Jessie Murph]

Exactly.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

It'll get you out of it.

[Jessie Murph]

That's what they say.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

I love that. One last question before we go. What would Jesse Murph today say to little Jesse hiding in her bedroom writing pain into poems?

[Jessie Murph]

I probably should be like, look at his now. I don't know. That's like a crazy thing to even think about. Like, it makes me really emotional to think about. I feel like I've come so far just as a human and I'm really happy with where my heart and soul and brain is at right now, you know? Yeah, I think. I don't know. I'm really. I'm really grateful.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

That's all that matters. And seeing you smile is what makes everybody happy too. Well, of course everybody loves a sad Jesse because we get fire music. But we prefer, we prefer a happy Jesse though too, because your mental health and your well being is what matters the most. Can we talk about the Priscilla Presley vibes?

[Jessie Murph]

Let's talk about it. I love her.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah. Is this, is this an ode to her? Is it an ode to Amy Winehouse? Or is it a little mixture of both?

[Jessie Murph]

Dude, when I think about like iconic women, they all have the big hair and it's def. I'm definitely very inspired by Priscilla, but like Amy, Dolly, even, like, there's so many iconic women that had the big hair that I've always loved my entire life.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

The higher the hair, the closer to God.

[Jessie Murph]

Amen. That is my slogan. I love it, but I don't know, something about the hair makes me feel powerful and for me, like I've. I've loved this. Of course it's a two in the morning.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

What do you have in there? Is it like a bump it or is that just a bunch of back combing? I need to know.

[Jessie Murph]

It's always different. Today it's the bump it. Yeah, but sometimes it's just my hair. Sometimes it's a wig.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

I. Sometimes it's a what?

[Jessie Murph]

Sometimes it's a wig.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Really?

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah, it just depends on what I'm doing.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

I love wigs. I went through my. Okay, I loved wigs. And so they let me go out of the house one day looking like Wendy Williams.

[Jessie Murph]

Wait, what happened?

[Podcast Host Bunny]

I looked like E.T. i tried this wig on and. Have you ever seen ET when he has the hair? Have you ever seen the movie E.T.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah, I've seen.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Okay, well, he wears a wig. You're going to cackle next time you see. Can I see this picture? Yeah, go ahead. Pull it up. Can we pull it up, you guys? Do we have the. Yeah, they're going to pull it up. I look like fudgeing Wendy Williams meets ET And I was like, I'm never wearing a fudgeing wig again. I'm like, I don't even care.

[Jessie Murph]

So were you gluing them down or like pinning them in?

[Podcast Host Bunny]

So we were doing a little bit of both because I let. We actually learned how to do them ourselves was. I have a whole fucking. I don't know if you ever want any blonde wigs, but. But I have a whole.

[Jessie Murph]

I actually do.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

I'll give you some.

[Jessie Murph]

I always want to be blonde like once a week.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

I literally bought so many wigs, I'll box them up and I'll send them to you. I bought so many like expensive wigs and now they're just. I'm either gonna donate them to like, you know, like a charity or I'll. If you'll use them, I'll give you a couple of them too. But yeah, never again am I doing that. But yeah, we were gluing them down and it was a.

[Jessie Murph]

I haven't seen this.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Dude, it's. I looked like your video. You looking like this. No, don't fight the video. We don't need to bring that up. I want you to show her to the E.T. but yeah, no, it was rough. I love The. Yeah. I love the Priscilla vibes on you. I love the big hair on you. I think it fits, and I think it's. Nobody's doing it, you know, like, you're bringing it back and you're in the public eye enough to where it's gonna start that trend again.

[Jessie Murph]

So I hope so. I think the hair was so fabulous in this, dude. People were just so, like, they were putting in the work. Work.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Oh, yeah. Well, they had. It was. Women cared about what they looked like where. I feel like now we have so much going on that what we look like is the last thing on our minds these days. And, yeah, women were a lot more glamorous back in the day, but men, too.

[Jessie Murph]

Like, yeah, everyone was just, like, putting in their best effort. People were wearing suits more. I love a good suit.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Yeah.

[Jessie Murph]

Where are the suits?

[Podcast Host Bunny]

I was just talking about how I'm attracted to gay men because they're so stylish. Dude, I love a stylish man. And all of the stylish men are gay.

[Jessie Murph]

Now. The suits. I'm telling you. I'm telling you, wake up and put on a suit.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

See, Jesse is telling you boys at home, wake up and put on a suit. So do it, men. Jesse, thank you so much for coming on the podcast today. I appreciate you got to come back and see me.

[Jessie Murph]

I would love to.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

All right. Come back anytime. And, of course, where can everybody find you if they don't know anything about you, which I highly doubt?

[Jessie Murph]

You can find me on Instagram, any of the socials, Spotify, Apple. Yeah, they can.

[Podcast Host Bunny]

Thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Dumb Blonde. I'll see you guys next week. Bye.