Podcast
Dystopia Now
Hosted by Kate Willett and Emile Torres · EN
Dystopia Now is a show where a comedian (Kate Willett) and an academic (Emile Torres) explore the philosophies and religions of Silicon Valley and tech billionaires shaping our country, our world, and our future.
26episodes
Episodes
Newest firstAll episodes
Why Life on Mars Would Probably Suck
Yesterday00:51:50Tap to summarizeWe return from our brief summer break chatting about Émile's latest article of interest, "Here's Why SpaceX's Mission is Bullshit" in the wake of its recent IPO and question the assumptions underlying transhumanism for space exploration. Further Reading https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/heres-why-spacexs-mission-is-bullshit https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/is-elon-musk-a-mass-murderer-on-par Books Mentioned Adam Becker, More Everything Forever
Transcribe →
Protopia Futures (ft. Monika Bielskyte)
3w ago01:02:12Tap to summarizeDoes fiction inform what we think the future should look like? Sci-fi and futurism has typically told us the inevitability of technology and dystopian cyberpunk imaginaries. Monika Bielskyte joins us to introduce her alternative, Protopia Futures, a framework for science-informed visions for a good future. Find Monika's writings at https://monikabielskyte.substack.com Further Reading https://monikabielskyte.substack.com/p/we-can-always-do-something-about https://plus.flux.community/p/to-achieve-a-beautiful-future-we https://monikabielskyte.substack.com/p/the-futurism-you-were-sold-was-a https://monikabielskyte.substack.com/p/protopia-world-stack-values-bodies
Transcribe →
Pope Leo's Anti-AI Encyclical
4w ago00:39:52Tap to summarizeThis week, we go over the merits and demerits of the Pope Leo XIV's first encyclical, Magnifica Humanitas and its co-presentation with Christopher Olah of Anthropic, the company branding itself as most concerned with "AI Safety." Further Reading Émile's article: https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/shame-on-the-pope-shame-on-ea-shame Magnifica Humanitas: https://www.vatican.va/content/leo-xiv/en/encyclicals/documents/20260515-magnifica-humanitas.html Full Speech: Anthropic Co‑Founder Christopher Olah at Magnifica Humanitas Vatican Launch | EWTN News: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORFrdYSvzuw Paolo Benanti, "An invisible revolution: Peter Thiel and the Silicon Valley coup": https://legrandcontinent.eu/fr/2026/03/14/thiel-heresie-benanti Timnit Gebru's comments: https://x.com/timnitGebru/status/2058959646891581898
Transcribe →
An Independent for Nebraska (ft. Austin Ahlman)
Jun 400:48:31Tap to summarizeCould a populist, independent candidate win an election in the most Republican part of Nebraska's 1st Congressional District? In a time when the Republican and Democratic Party are both notoriously corrupt, Austin Ahlman is making the call to "Take Back Nebraska." This week we talk with Austin about his run for office, antimonopoly, Abundance, and how tech companies are undermining Nebraska's public power system through regulatory carve-outs. Find Austin's campaign at ahlmanfornebraska.com or takebacknebraska.com. Further Reading Austin Ahlman for The Intercept: https://theintercept.com/staff/austin-ahlman/ Austin Ahlman Launches Insurgent Independent Campaign in Nebraska https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYE10gacxiE
Transcribe →
Florida Man Runs for Congress as a Democratic Socialist (ft. Oliver Larkin)
May 2800:48:35Tap to summarizeSubscribe to our Patreon at patreon.com/c/DystopiaNow! Oliver Larkin, activist, union organizer, and Democratic Socialist, joins us this week to discuss his run for election to the U.S. House as a Florida representative. We talk about Oliver's campaign, how South Florida and Greater Miami are becoming new headquarters for tech companies including Palantir, and what we can do electorally to support working people instead of billionaires. Further Reading Find Oliver's campaign at https://www.oliverforcongress.com https://theintercept.com/2026/02/26/iran-war-powers-vote-democrats-gottheimer-moskowitz
Transcribe →
PATREON PREVIEW: Surveillance Pricing with Zephyr Teachout
May 2100:11:28Tap to summarizeSubscribe to our Patreon for the FULL episode and more bonus content at patreon.com/c/DystopiaNow! On this special Patreon episode, we talked to antitrust hero and Fordham University law professor Zephyr Teachout about surveillance pricing and surveillance wages. From airlines charging us more to fly home if they see we've recently searched "funeral arrangements" to rideshare companies paying less per ride if your bank account is low, we explored the present and future possibilities of data as a tool for economic and labor exploitation. Book Mentioned Karen Levy, Data Driven: Truckers, Technology, and the New Workplace Surveillance Further Reading FTC Report, https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2025/01/ftc-surveillance-pricing-study-indicates-wide-range-personal-data-used-set-individualized-consumer ACLU Report, https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/surveillance-pricing Electronic Frontier Foundation on surveillance pricing, https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2024/08/fight-surveillance-pricing-we-need-privacy-first Maryland ban on surveillance pricing, https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/apr/29/maryland-grocery-stores-ban-surveillance-pricing New York legislation, https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/central-ny/politics/2026/05/19/surveillance-pricing- Cory Doctorow on surveillance wages, https://doctorow.medium.com/https-pluralistic-net-2026-04-06-empiricism-washing-veena-dubal-d63fef485503
Transcribe →
Of Dawkins and Data Centers
May 1401:05:28Tap to summarizeIn this week's episode we begin to go into the philosophy around consciousness and AI as New Atheist relic Richard Dawkins recently claimed "Claudia" was conscious. What are the merits and issues of thinking about consciousness in the context of AI? Later we discuss a recent piece in Jacobin arguing against data center resistance. Further Reading Richard Dawkins in Unherd, https://unherd.com/2026/05/when-claudia-met-claudius Holly Buck in Jacobin, https://jacobin.com/2026/04/ai-data-center-moratorium-democracy Émile in Salon, https://www.salon.com/2017/07/29/from-the-enlightenment-to-the-dark-ages-how-new-atheism-slid-into-the-alt-right/ Taylor Lorenz podcast episode, https://sites.libsyn.com/566555/site/big-tech-is-watching-you-with-taylor-lorenz Brian Merchant on Substack, https://www.bloodinthemachine.com/p/the-data-center-rebellion-is-only
Transcribe →
Altman Attack: What is Violence?
May 700:40:31Tap to summarizeIn this week's episode, we explore a question no one has ever thought of before: "What is violence?" We unpack the recent Molotov cocktail attack on Sam Altman's home and how his own rhetoric about (checks notes), "killing every human on earth with AI", may be leading people who take him seriously to act in extreme ways. We explore Altman's vision for the future and the violence inherent within it. Further Reading "The Merge" essay by Sam Altman, December 2017: https://blog.samaltman.com/the-merge https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2026/04/13/sam-altman-may-control-our-future-can-he-be-trusted https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/apr/18/sam-altman-house-attack-ai https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/21/opinion/sam-altman-attack-ai-silicon-valley.html https://www.wired.com/story/sam-altman-home-attack-openai-san-franisco-office-threat/
Transcribe →
From Fordism to Muskism with Quinn Slobodian and Ben Tarnoff
Apr 3000:53:59Tap to summarizeSubscribe to our Patreon for the FULL episode and more bonus content at patreon.com/c/DystopiaNow! Quinn Slobodian, historian of neoliberalism, and Ben Tarnoff, internet and technology writer, join us to unpack how Musk's fears and fantasies are shaping our world. Muskism: A Guide for the Perplexed is available now in the United States (Harper) and UK (Penguin). Quinn Slobodian is professor of international history at Boston University, and the author or editor of seven books translated into ten languages including, Hayek's Bastards: Race (winner of the NBCC award for criticism), Gold, IQ and the Capitalism of the Far Right, Crack-Up Capitalism: Market Radicals and the Dream of a World without Democracy, and Globalists: The End of Empire and the Birth of Neoliberalism. In 2024, the Prospect Magazine (UK) named him one of the World's 25 Top Thinkers. Ben Tarnoff is a writer and technologist based in Massachusetts and is the author of Internet for the People and the co-author of Voices from the Valley: Tech Workers Talk About What They Do—And How They Do It. He is a frequent contributor to the New York Review of Books, and has also written for the New York Times, The New Yorker, and the New Republic, among other publications.
Transcribe →
The AI Con with Alex Hanna and Emily Bender
Apr 2300:48:51Tap to summarizeProf. Emily M. Bender, linguist, and Dr. Alex Hanna, sociologist join us to discuss their 2025 book The AI Con and how Big Tech spun marketing around "stochastic parrots". Find lots more from Emily and Alex on their podcast Mystery AI Hype Theater 3000 from the Distributed AI Research Institute! Books Mentioned Emily Bender & Alex Hanna, The AI Con Rua M. Williams, Disabling Intelligences: Legacies of Eugenics and How We are Wrong about AI Further Reading Bender, et. al, "On the Dangers of Stochastic Parrots: Can Language Models Be Too Big?", https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3442188.3445922
Transcribe →