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Narrator (0:00)
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Interview Host (0:31)
Big Short, right, in 2008, you. You kind of forecasted that. Do you see parallels in today's economy? I know that that's something that a lot of people are nervous about as far as a recession is one thing, but perhaps even something bigger than that. That's what some people are actually, you know, predicting. Do you see parallels and, and are you bearish now, the same way you were bearish then?
Financial Analyst (0:59)
Do I see some parallels? Sure, I see some parallels. Am I as bearish as I was then? Not even close. I mean, not even the same universe. So let me just elaborate a little bit about that. Do I think that there could be a global trade war? Sure, it's possible. It's also possible that there won't be a global trade war. Do I think that a trade war would cause a recession? Absolutely, I think a trade war would cause a recession. Do I think a recession that could happen because of the trade war would be a financial calamity on the same order as the great financial crisis of 2008? Not even close. Not even in the same universe. What happened in 2008? If you could boil down the financial crisis of 2008 into a paragraph, it would be great financial crisis happened for four reasons. Large financial institutions had way too much leverage. A big asset class, subprime mortgages, blew up. Those same large financial institutions owned a lot of subprime mortgages and derivatives, in particular, credit default swaps, which is a very technical financial instrument, tied the balance sheets of large financial institutions all over the globe into a spider web that was so complicated, nobody knew where it began and where it ended. That's the cause of it. The reason why that was such a calamity is, look, if General Motors, God forbid, went bankrupt, let's just say, and the government didn't bail it out and it was liquidated, that would obviously be terrible for General Motors. It would be terrible for all the employees who got laid off and all the companies that supply stuff to General Motors, maybe some of them would go bankrupt. They would certainly have problems. Maybe that would cause a recession in the United States. Possible, but that's all that would happen. But if you can't get your money out of the bank, if the large financial institutions go down, planet Earth burns. That's the end. So where are we today? Post Dodd Frank. The leverage of large banks is literally less than half of what it was. It's probably almost two thirds less. That's enormous. So, for example, Citigroup, which used to be levered officially 35 to 1. But if you added up all the stuff that didn't officially show up on its balance sheet, but they were responsible for it was 40 to 1. Today, it's 12 to 1. That's like the distance between Mercury and Pluto. To blow up a bank that's levered 40 to 1. If I could use an analogy. Takes a pebble. Develop a bank that delivered 12 to one takes a meteor. So do I think that whatever President Trump is doing could potentially cause a global recession? Sure, it's possible. Do I think that would cause a financial crisis that would cause the banks to go down? Not at all.
