Podcast Summary: Earn Your Leisure – "How Chocolate Clothes Global Turned African Culture Into a Global Fashion Brand"
Podcast: Earn Your Leisure (iHeartPodcasts)
Episode Date: January 16, 2026
Hosts: Rashad Bilal and Troy Millings
Guest: Kwaku Bediako ("Chocolate"), founder of Chocolate Clothes Global
Overview
In this engaging episode, Rashad and Troy welcome fashion entrepreneur Kwaku Bediako, famously known as "Chocolate," to discuss the meteoric rise of Chocolate Clothes Global. The conversation dives deep into how Kwaku fused West African heritage with global style, built a brand that dresses presidents and celebrities, and created a vibrant community that reflects African excellence on the world stage. The episode also explores lessons in entrepreneurship, the balance between creativity and business, and tips for up-and-coming designers.
Key Discussion Points
1. Origins & Early Influences
- (05:24–09:23)
- Kwaku introduces his Ghanaian heritage, upbringing in Nigeria, and how his family’s scientific background (parents are professors) shaped his analytical yet creative approach to fashion.
- Early passions: Drawing cartoon characters, designing cars and buildings, and writing movie scripts and rap lyrics.
- Quote:
"I've always been a good blend of my nature and my nurture—with a creative edge but also a science community." (09:14 – Kwaku)
2. Balancing Creativity and Family Expectations
- (12:32–19:48)
- Kwaku describes the challenge of pursuing creativity in a family of scientists and outlines the cultural expectation to become a doctor or lawyer.
- He shares stories of financial hardships—walking miles after work due to cut-off stipends, and eventually winning parental support after his success became visible.
- Memorable Moment:
"There was a reason they conferred the name Bediako to me—a fighter that never quits." (13:09 – Kwaku)
"2015/2016, we got profiled on CNN... That's what changed the whole dynamic of their perception." (18:08 – Kwaku)
3. The Cultural Depth of African Fashion
- (19:48–26:48)
- Explains the significance behind West African textiles, especially kente, where color and patterns convey status, emotion, and even marital status.
- Discusses how his designs modernize and reinterpret tradition—incorporating lace, crochet, velour, and denim with iconic patterns.
- Quote:
"For us, it's not just about wearing clothes. It's about key messaging, about communication. Authentic clothing goes beyond 'this color is fly'—it's what does green or purple and gold mean to us?" (20:44 – Kwaku)
4. Cross-Cultural Influences: America, Hip Hop, and Modernization
- (26:48–32:39)
- Sharing the impact of 1990s and 2000s American pop culture, hip hop, sports, and movies on his creative evolution.
- Describes integrating fabrics like velour, inspired by brands like Sean John and Rocawear, and how culture is now global, with music, sports, and fashion fueling each other.
- Quote:
"It's a fusion, if you're to ask me, it's a blend. For us as a brand, we’ve always been about that lifestyle—bringing people together, blending cultures and mindsets." (32:07 – Kwaku)
5. The Power of Networking & Game-Changing Moments
- (32:39–44:40)
- Detailed story of how Kwaku got Steve Harvey to wear Chocolate, leveraging precise visual estimation of Steve’s size:
"I’ve been following you... You were in Czech Republic, wearing a linen shirt and coral shorts. I eyeballed you and made you a suit." (39:55 – Kwaku)
- Steve Harvey’s endorsement led to explosive growth:
"Yesterday's price is not today’s price." (32:54 and 44:42 – Steve Harvey, as quoted by Kwaku)
- Lesson: Opportunities come from preparation meeting the right connections.
- Detailed story of how Kwaku got Steve Harvey to wear Chocolate, leveraging precise visual estimation of Steve’s size:
6. Scaling Challenges & Lessons Learned
- (44:40–55:13)
- Post-celebrity boom, Kwaku grappled with lack of business structure and the need for organic, not rushed, growth.
- Example of a misstep with Naomi Campbell—creating pieces based on his vision instead of hers and the importance of listening to clients:
"We need to understand who our client audience is. At the end of the day, even if we’re given the power to design, we just don’t go imposing our ideas." (51:26 – Kwaku)
7. Business Evolution: Partnerships & the NBA
- (55:13–61:45)
- Describes partnership with NBA Africa’s Basketball Africa League—a first-of-its-kind global merch deal.
- Developed new lines, including caps, hoodies, and bags, expanding into repurposed and recycled materials.
- Quote:
"With the NBA Africa partnership, we’re not just about high fashion—we’re empowering the community, blending culture with opportunities in sports, music, and art." (58:27 – Kwaku)
8. Community-Building & The Chocolate Membership Model
- (61:45–67:41)
- Launched a membership (not subscription) structure, giving clients bespoke clothing, first access to collections, exclusive collaborations (e.g. Caveman watches), and networking opportunities across continents.
- Focused on fostering global communities of like-minded, ambitious individuals:
"We feel like we are building an ecosystem and community... There’s always that power of collaboration rather than competition." (64:08 – Kwaku)
9. Advice for Aspiring Designers & Entrepreneurs
- (67:41–69:30)
- Kwaku’s actionable tips:
- "Think big, start small, move fast."
- "If you want to move fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go together—collaborate."
- "Be intentional. Plan. Learn how to plan."
- Quote:
"I don’t have no cap... We need to be intentional. Start small, move fast, and collaborate." (67:41 – Kwaku)
- Kwaku’s actionable tips:
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On reconciling creativity with family expectations:
"My parents groomed us so well. Although we used to clash, they helped us understand boundaries, encouraged us to read and learn beyond what you’re studying. That grounded me." (16:57 – Kwaku)
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On cultural connection through clothing:
"Community has always been part of us. So when you marry, the whole idea is—the family knows you’ve got community, that their daughter is safe." (37:31 – Kwaku)
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On organic business growth:
"Organic growth is important. People are quick to want eyeballs, but their back end ain’t ready. You also need to know you don’t know it all—you learn on the job." (48:16 – Kwaku)
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Steve Harvey’s reaction:
"Yesterday’s price is not today’s price." (32:54/44:42, as recounted by Kwaku)
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On blending cultures:
"Buttons and stitch work bring things together, bring people together, help blend cultures and mindsets..." (32:07 – Kwaku)
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On learning from failure:
"My biggest regret: I took creative license instead of giving Naomi Campbell what she wanted. You have to listen to your audience—a thin line between driving culture and being held hostage by it." (50:35 – Kwaku)
Key Timestamps
- 05:24 — Kwaku’s heritage, his journey from science to fashion
- 12:32 — Struggles and clashes in family expectations
- 18:08 — First major media validation (CNN, Forbes)
- 20:44 — Depth of kente and African symbolic fashion
- 26:48 — American hip-hop and cultural influence
- 32:54 — Power of networking, Steve Harvey’s endorsement
- 44:40 — Structural challenges and lessons in business scaling
- 50:35 — Client misstep with Naomi Campbell
- 55:24 — NBA Africa partnership and merch lines
- 61:48 — Global membership model
- 67:41 — Advice for new designers
- 69:37 — Chocolate’s (soon-to-be-revamped) website, future of the app
Final Takeaways
- Culture as Competitive Advantage: Kwaku’s blend of Afrocentric tradition and global culture is at the heart of Chocolate’s appeal; clients wear not just clothes but stories and status.
- Community Over Competition: The brand’s power comes from building ecosystems—whether through weddings, sports, or networking events, collaboration is key.
- Organic Growth & Adaptation: Even with celebrity endorsements, businesses need planning, structure, and the humility to learn from mistakes.
- Global Vision: Chocolate Clothes Global is less about selling garments and more about turning African identity into an expansive, modern lifestyle that connects continents.
To follow Chocolate Clothes Global:
- Instagram (major updates)
- Website: chocolateclothesglobal.com – relaunching with new features
- [App coming soon] — for custom measurements & member updates
"Think big, start small, move fast." — Kwaku Bediako (67:41)
#End of Summary
