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Right.
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Discover is accepted at 99% of places
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But all of these jeweler. I don't trust the jeweler. They they because they know that the people is ignorant. They know that they. They know that they could do whatever they want. And how you really going to know? Like even now, Even now, the lab diamonds test up real on the diamond test.
Diamond Market Analyst
Absolutely.
Cultural Commentator
So you don't know if you mind a quote unquote, real diamond or a fake diamond, because the fake diamond is actually a real diamond.
Diamond Market Analyst
A diamond. Yeah, yeah. And if we want to get down that path, the whole diamonds are girls best friend in a store of value. Diamonds are some of the lowest rates they have been the last 10 years. And the beers made that a thing for that stone to be of a certain value.
Cultural Commentator
100, there's about 100. There's a hundred element that's. That's more valuable than diamonds. Diamonds are not rare at all. They were never valuable throughout human history. They just became valuable in the 20th century.
Diamond Market Analyst
Yeah.
Cultural Commentator
Last 100 years, marketing. And they, they, they hoard the diamonds to make them. To make them rare.
Diamond Market Analyst
Yes. Artificial market.
Cultural Commentator
That goes back to the whole marketing of America with yes, diamonds are a girl's best friend, but also engagement. This whole engagement wedding industry.
Diamond Market Analyst
Oh, that's. Y' all want to talk about the Somali daycare.
Cultural Commentator
That's the real scam they was. That was. Diamonds are not valuable like gold has always been valuable. Since, since 5,000, 10,000 years ago, people have been trading gold. People were never trading diamonds. People never thought diamonds were valuable until a European came to Africa and had a brilliant idea to shut the. The whole resources down and hoard all the diamonds and then trinkle it out and then put a major marketing campaign in Hollywood and tell Americans that when you get gay engaged to somebody, you have to put a diamond ring on their finger and tell them that diamonds are a girl's best friend, Tiffany's. And all of this marketing. And now, now diamonds are so valuable, but diamonds are not worth anything. If in. In the history of mankind. This is a blimp when diamonds are actually valuable. Absolutely.
Diamond Market Analyst
But do what you want. I know it looks good to shine and all that, but. And like you said, if you ever go in the harsh times, you need to resell it. You're not gonna get anything for it.
Cultural Commentator
No, not at all. But do what you want. Yep. Well, speaking of diamonds, let's show this clip from speed. As far as. Not that clip. The two clips with diamonds. This. Well, we can show both actually, but there's one clip when he went to the village and he was about to he the 17 cows. Let's show this clip, shall we?
Charlemagne Tha God
Oh, that's your daughter. Yes, first daughter.
Diamond Market Analyst
Oh,
Charlemagne Tha God
you want to give me cows, huh? You want to Give me some cows.
Cultural Commentator
Yeah.
Charlemagne Tha God
So proposal then. Do I come with your family? Then we negotiate. He has to agree first. Wait, she. You have to ask from her first. If she agrees, then you can come to the father and then you can negotiate how many cows you can pay so that she becomes your wife. How many cows do I have to give you so I can marry her? 17. 17 cows?
Cultural Commentator
Yes. How much are we looking at?
Charlemagne Tha God
17 cows. How much is 17 cows? Because the cow can cost 5,000, 7,000. So 5, 17. $250 a cow. 250. 500 bucks. $250 a cow. 20 cows or 5 grand. 20. Wait, 20 cows.
Cultural Commentator
4 grand.
Charlemagne Tha God
5 grand. 4,000.
Cultural Commentator
Yeah, yeah.
Charlemagne Tha God
So he wants one wife or two wives or three wives. 15K. You get three.
Cultural Commentator
I want.
Charlemagne Tha God
I want 10. 10 wide. How many do we have here? One. You can only have six today. Six. You can only have six. Yo, Chatis is crazy, bro.
Financial/Wealth Expert
Tennis is insane.
Diamond Market Analyst
What the hell?
Charlemagne Tha God
This is crazy. 25k. Six wise. I'm gonna be in contact with some cows. Okay. You are welcome. All right.
Cultural Commentator
Shout out to speed first.
Diamond Market Analyst
Shout out to speed. I like him.
Cultural Commentator
Yeah, yeah, he doing. He doing a great job. So they thought that this was a joke, like I said. We went to Kenya and they. And they educated us that it was. It was 10 cows. That was the Dow in Kenya, but I guess Estonia. Estonia. I think he's in Estonia. The kingdom of Estonia. It's a small kingdom. You ever seen the guy or. So he's the king. You've probably seen this video on Instagram when he came to Abu Dhabi with 21 wives. Yep, that's. That's where he's at right now. So the head of the village, I guess that was his daughter in a dowry. So dowry is. Is the offering that you give to the family before you can marry 17 cows. Now, he said some. Some vitally important things to listen. So the first it was like, you ask her, she has to agree to it. So it's not like, oh, she has no right. Because I saw that in the comments. That's so sad. She has no rights. They literally said, you have to go to her first, she has to agree to it. And then something else. Key that the head of the village, he was like, okay, bring your families and we'll negotiate the dowry. And then, you know, 17 cows.
Diamond Market Analyst
You think he overpaying with the 17?
Cultural Commentator
Hit him with the premium. Hit him with the premium before negotiation.
Diamond Market Analyst
That's before negotiations start high and work your way down.
Cultural Commentator
Work your way down. But I think. All right, all jokes aside, though, right? This goes back to what I was talking about before. As far as tradition. Just that little 30 second clip. You saw a tradition. As far as, yo, you go to her first.
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Cultural Commentator
He said, okay, quickly, let's bring your family. I'm gonna bring our family. We're gonna negotiate the terms. Okay? This is the offering that you have to provide. All of that, like I always say, that goes back to having some level of tradition, culture and social norms that have to be done. Customs. It wasn't just, yo, what's up? I like you. Let's go out on a date. All right. Like, you know, I mean, like, let's. Let's. Let's go to Vegas. Let's elope. I'll tell our. I'll tell our parents later after this is all done. We got a kid, three kids my mom never even met. You, like, it's so much stuff, right? So I thought that that was a pretty cool clip, like, for people because a lot of people have never. They've never seen that before, never been exposed to that. So I thought that was some good education. But what's your thoughts on it?
Diamond Market Analyst
I. I really like what Speed is doing. Even in the next clip about Botswana in the diamond industry, I love, in his own way, how he's educating his audience. I just want to know there's like a chart that we can try. Trading View. Y' all got the diary cow index per country available. Just because, you know, just in case.
Cultural Commentator
Which. What. How many. How many cows are you willing to give?
Diamond Market Analyst
I don't know. I got to see the chart and I got to see what the historical price for. So it just depends. Trading View. Charles Schwab, somebody. Oh, Vlad, put it up. TINF. Market.
Cultural Commentator
Put that up.
Diamond Market Analyst
Let me know how much. 2000 a cow.
Cultural Commentator
So that's the part because I guess depending on where you are, the cows go for different prices. But that would be good to know, too, because I don't think it's a standard price for a cow.
Diamond Market Analyst
I know you. I know we're joking. But you have to know the price of everything you pay. Like, I know Troy put it in the thing. Fabio got a chain that plays movies. Like, at some point, you need to start having conversations with those in our culture about what should not be done. So, oh, it's 5k per car.
Cultural Commentator
5k. But then. But then you bring up the point. Is it a waggo beef cow?
Diamond Market Analyst
Yeah. Well, what's the quality of it?
Cultural Commentator
Some of these Cows is like Mount Malnourished. 80. Like £80. Like they could barely make it. So is this the finest grade of beef that we can provide? Yeah, because that might be more. That might be a higher level of, of price that you're paying. Yeah, 5k.
Diamond Market Analyst
How many cows you willing to pay?
Cultural Commentator
Yo, think about if it's 5k.
Diamond Market Analyst
5k in a prenup. I mean, that'd be a bad.
Cultural Commentator
If you paying 5k because people was all right, this.
Diamond Market Analyst
Once again, it's either that or push present. I just learned about that reason you
Cultural Commentator
just learned about the push present recently. What you know about that? Because let's think about this rationally. Right? Because people, some people will say like, damn cows. Like, they laugh like no, but that goes back to this. Different forms of currency, see.
Diamond Market Analyst
Yep.
Cultural Commentator
If you're in the middle of the desert, water means more to you than a thousand dollars.
Diamond Market Analyst
Yeah.
Cultural Commentator
A gallon of water would mean more because you'll die. So a, a gold bar means nothing in the middle of the, the desert when you, when you're about to die of dehydration, water is premium. So yeah, you can kind of laugh off the cow thing. But if you, if your survival is based on farming cow. Okay, if a cow's going for $5,000, let's say, let's say, let's let's just say 10. Right? That's 50. That's 50k. Right? Like, okay, it, it's not really that funny after a certain point in time because it's like, let's say he after 14. That's 70, 000. The vast majority of people that got married got. Did not get 70, 000 at all. So y' all laughing, but it's an
Diamond Market Analyst
investment into the family.
Cultural Commentator
That's a fact. Like the vast majority of people got married for nothing.
Diamond Market Analyst
For nothing. And it's a good way for the father to know if you have capability of taking care of the daughter. At least on the financial front, too nearly home.
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Podcast: Earn Your Leisure
Hosts: Rashad Bilal and Troy Millings
Release Date: March 23, 2026
Episode Theme:
This episode dives into the myths, marketing, and real-world economics surrounding diamonds and the broader jewelry industry. The discussion critically examines why diamonds are considered valuable, the marketing strategies behind their status, and alternative cultural practices around engagement and marriage, particularly focusing on dowries and traditional value systems.
[02:30 – 04:49]
Mistrust in the Jewelry Industry
The panel expresses deep skepticism about jewelers, citing widespread consumer ignorance and the difficulty in verifying a diamond’s origin or authenticity.
Modern lab-grown diamonds test as “real” diamonds, which blurs lines between what’s considered “authentic” and “fake.”
Cultural Commentator [02:30]: “I don't trust the jeweler...because they know the people is ignorant...Even now, the lab diamonds test up real on the diamond test.”
Diamond Market Analyst [02:45]: “Yeah, yeah. And if we want to get down that path, the whole ‘diamonds are a girl's best friend’ and a store of value... Diamonds are some of the lowest rates they have been the last 10 years.”
Historical Value of Diamonds
Diamonds’ perceived value is debunked, with the panel noting their lack of rarity and intrinsic value compared to gold or other elements. The artificial scarcity and value were invented by the diamond industry in the 20th century, largely through the massive marketing campaign by De Beers.
Cultural Commentator [03:06]: “Diamonds are not rare at all. They were never valuable throughout human history. They just became valuable in the 20th century."
Cultural Commentator [03:19]: “…they hoard the diamonds to make them rare.”
Marketing's Role in Creating Value
The phrase "diamonds are a girl's best friend" and the linkage of diamonds to engagement and marriage are called out as pure marketing ploys.
Cultural Commentator [03:28]: “That goes back to the whole marketing of America...engagement, this whole engagement wedding industry.”
Gold vs. Diamonds
Contrasts are made between the timeless value of gold, which has been consistently traded and valued by civilizations for millennia, and the fleeting, manufactured prestige of diamonds.
Cultural Commentator [04:02]: “…gold has always been valuable. Since, since 5,000, 10,000 years ago, people have been trading gold. People were never trading diamonds…”
Resale Value
Listeners are warned about the poor resale value of diamonds; what’s bought for thousands may fetch little in a pinch.
Diamond Market Analyst [04:35]: “If you ever go in the harsh times, you need to resell it. You're not gonna get anything for it."
Cultural Commentator [04:49]: “No, not at all. But do what you want.”
[04:49 – 12:39]
Dowry Traditions and Cattle as Currency
The show pivots to a discussion about dowry traditions, referencing a video clip featuring Speed negotiating a dowry in cows for marriage in an African kingdom.
Charlemagne Tha God [05:15]: “So proposal then. Do I come with your family? Then we negotiate. He has to agree first. Wait, she. You have to ask from her first. If she agrees, then you can come to the father and then you can negotiate how many cows you can pay so that she becomes your wife.”
The negotiation process, including the woman’s consent and the communal/family aspect, is highlighted as both novel and educational for Western audiences.
Cultural Commentator [08:05]: “…that little 30 second clip. You saw a tradition. As far as, yo, you go to her first… this is the offering that you have to provide. All of that…goes back to having some level of tradition, culture and social norms…”
Value Relative to Culture & Survival
The hosts draw a comparison between actual needs (like cows in a farming society) and arbitrary monetary value, illustrating that the context determines the real worth.
Cultural Commentator [11:15]: “Because that goes back to this. Different forms of currency… if you're in the middle of the desert, water means more to you than a thousand dollars.”
Cultural Commentator [11:42]: “A gold bar means nothing in the middle of the, the desert when you, when you're about to die of dehydration, water is premium.”
Dowry as Investment & Social Check
The dowry, in the form of livestock, is positioned as a meaningful investment—not just a transactional fee, but a test and proof of a suitor’s ability to support a family.
Diamond Market Analyst [12:33]: “It's an investment into the family.”
Diamond Market Analyst [12:39]: “…And it's a good way for the father to know if you have capability of taking care of the daughter, at least on the financial front…”
Anecdotal Humor and Practicality
| Timestamp | Speaker | Memorable Quote/Insight | |-----------|------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:30 | Cultural Commentator | “I don't trust the jeweler...They know that they can do whatever they want. How you really gonna know?” | | 03:06 | Cultural Commentator | “Diamonds are not rare at all…never valuable throughout human history. They just became valuable in the 20th c.”| | 04:35 | Diamond Market Analyst | “If you ever go in the harsh times, you need to resell it. You're not gonna get anything for it.” | | 08:05 | Cultural Commentator | “…that goes back to having some level of tradition, culture and social norms that have to be done. Customs.” | | 11:15 | Cultural Commentator | “Different forms of currency…if you're in the middle of the desert, water means more to you than a thousand dollars.” | | 12:33 | Diamond Market Analyst | “It's an investment into the family.” | | 12:39 | Diamond Market Analyst | “It's a good way for the father to know if you have capability of taking care of the daughter, at least financially.” |
This episode unpacks the “value” of diamonds as a social construct, exposing the power of marketing, and offers perspective by comparing Western traditions to global ones like dowries in Africa. The overarching message: Question the real worth behind luxury staples and appreciate the contextual nature of value in wealth-building and personal relationships.
The episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in busting myths around luxury, understanding cultural economics, and rethinking financial priorities.