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Rashad Bilal
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Rashad Bilal
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Troy Millings
So this presentation is called Institutional Money in Crypto. For those of you who are watching on YouTube, feel free to screenshot these documents because if you screenshot any document you find on social media, on any website or anything, you can screenshot it, copy and paste, put it into Google and the document comes up. So if you're watching on YouTube you can easily find all the documents that I'm going to share today. Some of the documents that we have are from Swift, are from the World Economic Forum, Citibank, State street, just to name a few, and they cover a plethora of different top plethora of different topics. If you're listening with your headphones or on your way to work now, feel free to go back and rewatch this because I think that everyone needs to have these documents that we have. As we mentioned earlier, I have roughly 12,000 documents, give or take. And having to concise it down and break it down to 13 documents was very, very difficult. But I think that these 13 documents embody where we are right now in history. So let's get started. This document goes to say that all coins have largely floundered under four factor drag. Token creation exploded from roughly 12,000 tokens in 2017 to 1 million in 2021, and now almost 40 million today. With liquidity comparable to past cycles, capital stretches razor thin. This creates an environment where capital rotation occurs at a breakneck, breakneck pace, spawning a penny stock boom that undermines long term investor engagement and sustainable wealth creation. So what does this mean? And back in 2017 and even 2021, you were able to throw money at any random token and potentially make life changing wealth. And that, if that's any of you guys today, congratulations, I'm proud of you. But the environment we're now entering, there's too many tokens to make all boats rise. And the way that institutions work, because as we know, this week as of recording is crypto week. And I'm fully expecting the legislation to get passed and we'll talk about that shortly. But with institutions coming to the space, institutions don't adopt stuff for fun. They adopt things because it's more efficient, it's faster, and it's cheaper. So they're only going to put capital into the tokens that they believe will increase in wealth. And then it comes down to a point. How do we know what tokens to invest in, like institutions? How do we know what allocations institutions are putting into the crypto space? Well, they actively tell us and they actively document it real quick.
Rashad Bilal
So for the person that's just listening to average listener, they had tokens. There's the word coins. Just quickly just give them the difference between coins and tokens.
Troy Millings
So essentially the easiest way to break it down is that it's the same thing. Imagine XRP or Bitcoin. Imagine that just being the same thing as the Apple stock. Except now we can build on top of those platforms and create an entire ecosystem. And then how each ecosystem works is I don't think we can even imagine it. The way I like to compare it to is when the Internet first came out or when the iPhone first came out, we have our use cases that we think are going to be used, but institutions actively document how the use cases they can't even imagine. And it's going to be a frivolous thing for years to come. So pretty much what you're saying is that, okay, invest in the coins that institutions are investing in. And if institutions are not invested in it, stay clear of it. Exactly. I think the safest bet, as we know, is Bitcoin, Mr. Granddaddy of them all, it encompasses roughly around 60 of the total market cap from crypto. But if we go it goes deeper than bitcoin because businesses have different pain points and businesses have different use cases. Same with governments. And the world will never agree on one blockchain. We can't even agree on peace. So how could we ever agree on one single blockchain to use? And that's where it becomes difficult. If there's 40 million tokens in the crypto ecosystem and more today, that document came out December of last year. I'm pretty sure if there's more today than 40 million, how do we know what to invest in? So I personally focus on institutional documentation because if an institution with over a billion dollars in assets under management is investing in something and believes in it, and like I have you guys say with Mike Novogratz, if a billionaire actively comes on and says that some institutions are investing in Solana, we have to believe them.
Rashad Bilal
Which institution should we be paying attention to in terms of who's investing into the space?
Troy Millings
All of them. But the way that I like to break it down is I focus a lot of my research on the bank of International Settlements. For those of you guys who don't know who that is, that's the bank of central Banks. I focus my research on the Federal Reserve, the US Government, Now Swift, Swift. Swift essentially handles messaging and transactions for 11,000 banks globally. Now the World bank, the IMF, the European Central Bank. Because if you look and you do. If you look and you do some research, you can easily see what institutions and what governments move the most amount of capital. And that's the United States and that's Europe. So then we can narrow it down to the institutions that are located within the United States and Europe. Then breaking it down that way, you'll find documents from State street, you'll find documents from blackrock, you'll find documents from Vanguard and Plethora going down the list. Gotcha. So this particular document right here is from EY and Coinbase. So before I talk about their survey, their survey, interview or surveyed 352 institutional investors. And why did I focus on this survey? Because this goes deeper than just finding a document. It goes deeper than just finding a survey. Who did they actually interview and who actually answered these questions? Every single person answered this survey has over 1 billion in assets under management, and they only survey decision makers, COOs, CEOs and heads of departments. This range from people who work in family offices, asset managers, hedge funds, private banks and VCs. And they go on to tell us that 73 of surveyed investors hold cryptocurrencies beyond Bitcoin, Ethereum. But most only hold one to two others, XRP and Solana. And they go on to tell us what percent of institutions hold each token down the list. 97 of institutions hold Bitcoin, 86% of institutions that were surveyed hold Ethereum, 73% of people surveyed only hold Bitcoin or Ethereum, 34 hold XRP and 30 whole Solana. And as you can see there are some others. So feel free to screenshot this. This is a good guide. Another way I like the guide on how I make my investments on not only this, but also what ETF filings are out, what tokens are being filed for for ETFs because once the ETF comes out, it's already too late. But if we know which applications are out and the processes that go behind makes our life 10 times easier. And we can be invested like an institutional investor. Because for those of you guys who are, who are in on your leisure and who have watched the crypto class I teach, I preach all the time, we have to follow smart money, not dumb money. And they actively call us in these documents dumb money. But just because like that they call us something doesn't mean we actually have to be that doesn't mean we actually have to think like that or invest like that. We can invest just like them because they document everything that they do. So from so from that standpoint, Bitcoin, obviously the first choice Ethereum is XRP Den Solana or Solana and xrp. I think it's a give or take just because of use cases. Now they do two completely different things. The best way that I like to differentiate between the two is XRP mainly handles settlement. It's the settlement vehicle for for traditional finances to traditional finance. So it's just a way to send money faster between banks. Me personally, I've gone back and I've watched all the market Mondays episodes, all the earn your leisure episodes. And Rashad, you spoke about it a plethora of times on the true value and use case of XRP and you hit it right on the head. But Solana is for it's basically like a decentralized app store that retail can build on top of. Ethereum is essentially an institutional app store. They can build on top of the apps and the layer twos that will be built on top of these platforms. I think that the use cases are unknown and unforeseen and that the whole game is going to change in the next 20 years. But if we know that institutions and retails are going to be building on platforms like Salon and platforms like Ethereum and the institutions will be sending money back and forth on top of xrp, I think it's a no brainer investment use case.
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Earn Your Leisure Podcast Summary
Episode: Institutional Money in Crypto: What Coins Are Big Banks Really Buying?
Release Date: August 15, 2025
Hosts: Rashad Bilal and Troy Millings
Description: Dive deep into the world of institutional investment in cryptocurrency. Hosts Rashad Bilal and Troy Millings explore which digital assets big banks are investing in, the criteria they use, and the future implications for the crypto market.
Troy Millings kicks off the episode by addressing the surge of institutional money entering the cryptocurrency space. He emphasizes the importance of understanding where big banks are allocating their funds amidst a rapidly expanding number of tokens.
Notable Quote:
“Token creation exploded from roughly 12,000 tokens in 2017 to 1 million in 2021, and now almost 40 million today. With liquidity comparable to past cycles, capital stretches razor thin.”
— Troy Millings [01:52]
Troy elaborates on the unprecedented growth in the number of tokens, highlighting how this proliferation has diluted capital and led to a speculative "penny stock boom." This environment challenges long-term investor engagement and sustainable wealth creation.
Key Points:
Rashad Bilal pauses the discussion to clarify the difference between coins and tokens for listeners who may be new to the terminology.
Troy’s Explanation:
“The easiest way to break it down is that it's the same thing. Imagine XRP or Bitcoin. Imagine that just being the same thing as the Apple stock. Except now we can build on top of those platforms and create an entire ecosystem.”
— Troy Millings [04:10]
He further compares the development of blockchain ecosystems to the evolution of the internet and smartphones, suggesting that the full potential and use cases of these platforms are yet to be realized.
Rashad inquires about which institutions are pivotal in the crypto investment landscape. Troy outlines a strategy focused on major financial bodies and their documented investments.
Notable Institutions Mentioned:
Quote:
“If an institution with over a billion dollars in assets under management is investing in something and believes in it, … we have to believe them.”
— Troy Millings [06:45]
Troy introduces a pivotal survey conducted by EY and Coinbase, which analyzed the crypto holdings of 352 institutional investors, each managing over $1 billion in assets. The survey provides critical insights into which cryptocurrencies are favored by these large players.
Survey Highlights:
Notable Quote:
“73% of surveyed investors hold cryptocurrencies beyond Bitcoin, Ethereum. But most only hold one to two others, XRP and Solana.”
— Troy Millings [08:15]
Troy and Rashad dissect the specific roles and potential of the top tokens favored by institutions.
Quote:
“Ethereum is essentially an institutional app store. They can build on top of the apps and the layer twos that will be built on top of these platforms.”
— Troy Millings [09:00]
Quote:
“XRP mainly handles settlement. It's a way to send money faster between banks.”
— Troy Millings [09:30]
Quote:
“Solana is basically like a decentralized app store that retail can build on top of.”
— Troy Millings [09:20]
Troy emphasizes the importance of following "smart money" by aligning investments with institutional strategies. He advises individual investors to monitor institutional filings, ETF applications, and the tokens that major financial players are backing to make informed investment decisions.
Key Takeaways:
Notable Quote:
“We have to follow smart money, not dumb money.”
— Troy Millings [09:50]
As institutional investment in crypto continues to grow, the landscape becomes more structured and focused on sustainable growth rather than speculative gains. The hosts predict significant changes in the next 20 years as unforeseen use cases and technological advancements emerge, driven by both institutional and retail participation.
Final Insights:
Conclusion
This episode of Earn Your Leisure provides a comprehensive analysis of how institutional money is reshaping the cryptocurrency landscape. By focusing on the tokens that major financial institutions are investing in—primarily Bitcoin, Ethereum, XRP, and Solana—listeners gain valuable insights into making informed investment decisions. The discussion underscores the importance of aligning with "smart money" and anticipating future developments to navigate the evolving crypto market successfully.