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Economic/Tech Commentator 1
Do you think Duvall posted this? And I want to ask you, do you think they killed off the middle class in 2020? Was the printing of that money and Covid a way to destroy and widen that gap to erase the middle class?
Economic/Tech Commentator 2
Yeah, I mean the middle class I think has been Destroyed maybe before 2020, but yeah, definitely that accelerated it. I think that was definitely an acceleration of that. Even going back to 2008 financial crisis. And we could talk about that on blackout, but as far as you know how many people lost their homes in that? And that's when housing really became a forefront issue and made a permanent class of renters collapsed. People's 401ks, people panicked and sold. They didn't have market Monday. So a lot of people didn't have the full education. People got liquidated out of their positions. So I think that was the start of it. The pandemic definitely probably accelerated it with the amount of money that was printed. But the middle class I think has been at least shrinking. It has been shrinking for the last 20 years or so. And then you add inflation. That's the killer. Because even when Epstein, that's what he said. That was one of the things that he said. It was like paraphrasing. He said that we, we make money from trading stocks and investing. It's not, we're not doing real work. The other people, they got, they got to do real manual labor for work. That's not, that's not what we do. We don't. We don't. We're not doing real. Which is ironic because a lot of people were like, yo, content creators, you guys aren't really contributing. He. And he said several times he was like, Wall Street. Like, what are they, what are they really doing? What are they doing? They're not doing anything. They're making billions of dollars just by trading on arbitrage concepts.
Economic/Tech Commentator 1
Yeah, price disparities.
Economic/Tech Commentator 2
You're not doing anything to contribute. They're not doing anything physically and they're not doing anything to really contribute to society. They're not doing anything.
Economic/Tech Commentator 1
Especially when they deregulated derivatives post 2000. Before 2008, there was a free for.
Economic/Tech Commentator 2
All but that's the world that we live in. That's the, I mean, you know, that's the, that's the game that's being played at the highest level. But the middle class is not doing that, put it like that, the middle class is not taking part in that. In that situation, for the most part, they're still working for, for money. And it's just getting to the point now between the creator, economy, Wall street and AI, that's what Robin, Vlad Tenev said to us. He's like, he's going to get to a point. The idea of work is not even gonna, is, is going to, it's not even going to look the same in 20 years. Like how we even conceive work. People that's actually still trying to, I mean, I guess you still got the trades, electricians and stuff like that, but the people that's still trying to hold on to that. We need more. No, we really don't really don't need more.
Economic/Tech Commentator 1
We really, I just told you, for every job loss, you only need 10 Nvidia GPUs to replace the efficiency of an office worker. That's scary as hell. And we were just at Nvidia, trust me, for those you say, oh no, they can't replace it. Some of the work that we saw in those side conference rooms, yeah, but.
Economic/Tech Commentator 3
They, they got a garage for each unit. So we saw the autonomous garage, but there's a healthcare tech garage like happening. Like what are you liking in warehousing?
Economic/Tech Commentator 1
There was hundreds of robots in a warehouse that they're simulating. And this is the crazy part, even if we make it to outer space or above Earth, they've calibrated the AI to know the differences in gravity for the robots to deliver goods in outer space. Yeah, that's scary. Like they know the weight of Mars and Jupiter and Earth 2 and it only takes a day or two for the entire robot force to recalibrate to deliver supplies on other planets.
Economic/Tech Commentator 3
Yeah, the GPU that goes inside that, that, that robot, it, yeah, it takes a day. If they know the, the level of gravity on a specific place, they can train it to balance itself inside that gravity. Right. So the first time you train it, it falls to the ground. Then you train it to Earth's gravity, it begins to learn how to walk on Earth. Like it's, it's in the stuff you see is just like, oh, it's mind blowing.
Economic/Tech Commentator 1
It's different level. A different level.
Economic/Tech Commentator 2
Yeah.
Economic/Tech Commentator 1
And then of course Tesla, I mean elon announced that SpaceX is merging with Xai.
Economic/Tech Commentator 3
Oh, yeah. Talk about that. Oh, yeah.
Economic/Tech Commentator 2
It's not the time to play follow the money. Follow the money. We do need more plumbers, but everybody that's telling you we need more plumbers, they're not a plumber. You ever think about that?
Economic/Tech Commentator 1
That's a good point.
Economic/Tech Commentator 2
Gary Vee shot them. I mean, he's a genius, obviously, but he's like, yo, we need electricians. Gary Vee's not an electrician.
Economic/Tech Commentator 3
Go get it over there. I'm gonna get it over here.
Economic/Tech Commentator 2
I hate to be a bad guy, but let's just be honest. Everybody that told you you need more plumbers, they're not plumbers.
Economic/Tech Commentator 1
Yeah, show me how you making 30. Shout out to him and Mike. Boy, all y', all, I love y'. All. So if they clip this up, we love you, but show us how to get 30 million off of the agency side drywall. Come on. It's a bunch of people in tech and VC saying it's like, bro, y' all making seven and $8 million off two, three deals. What? And it's good money and plumbing. But show them how to make 10 to 15 million a year.
Economic/Tech Commentator 3
Yeah. Now let's get money there. That's good money there.
Economic/Tech Commentator 1
Yeah, for sure.
Economic/Tech Commentator 2
If you own a plumbing company.
Economic/Tech Commentator 3
Yeah.
Economic/Tech Commentator 2
Let's be honest. But what I'm saying, they tell you one thing, and then they're not telling their children that. No, they're not. They're not sending their children to private school to become plumbers.
Economic/Tech Commentator 1
No, no.
Economic/Tech Commentator 3
They want them to. To. Like I said, sometimes in life, people earn money from the neck down. And some people earn money from the neck up.
Economic/Tech Commentator 1
Hey, yo.
Economic/Tech Commentator 2
Of course. Hey, yo.
Economic/Tech Commentator 1
I said some.
Economic/Tech Commentator 2
Earning money from the neck up is wild.
Economic/Tech Commentator 1
Crazy people.
Economic/Tech Commentator 3
I said some people.
Economic/Tech Commentator 1
Some people. Hey, y', all, you might know those people.
Jacob Goldstein
I don't.
Economic/Tech Commentator 3
Maybe.
Economic/Tech Commentator 1
You know, I don't. I don't.
Economic/Tech Commentator 3
No.
Economic/Tech Commentator 1
But them rates down, though. Depreciating asset. Allegedly. Allegedly.
Economic/Tech Commentator 3
Well, maybe not.
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Episode: Is the Middle Class Over – The Harsh Truth About Money, Work & Power in 2026
Hosts: Rashad Bilal and Troy Millings
Date: February 9, 2026
This episode of Earn Your Leisure delves into the shrinking middle class in America, exploring how recent economic events, policy decisions, and technological advances have widened wealth gaps and fundamentally shifted the definition—and prospects—of work and financial security. The discussion, driven by a panel of knowledgeable commentators, touches on the impact of the 2008 financial crisis, the acceleration caused by the Covid-19 pandemic, the rise of arbitrage and passive wealth creation, the transformative power of AI and automation, and the mythology surrounding “safe” blue-collar jobs. The conversation is candid, sometimes irreverent, and always focused on exposing the structures that have redefined money and work.
| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|----------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:06 | Economic/Tech Commentator 2 | “The middle class I think has been destroyed maybe before 2020… but yeah, definitely that accelerated it.” | | 04:43 | Economic/Tech Commentator 2 | “They’re making billions just by trading on arbitrage concepts.” | | 06:11 | Economic/Tech Commentator 1 | “For every job loss, you only need 10 Nvidia GPUs to replace the efficiency of an office worker. That’s scary as hell.” | | 07:20 | Economic/Tech Commentator 3 | “If they know the level of gravity...they can train it to balance itself inside that gravity...” | | 08:28 | Economic/Tech Commentator 2 | “Everybody that told you you need more plumbers, they're not plumbers.” | | 09:21 | Economic/Tech Commentator 3 | “Sometimes in life, people earn money from the neck down, and some people earn money from the neck up.” |
The hosts and guests on Earn Your Leisure offer a sobering take on the trajectory of the American middle class. With historical context, tech-driven analysis, and a dash of humor, they outline why the middle class is under siege: not only from monetary policy and crises like 2008 and Covid-19 but also from an economic system that rewards passive capital over labor, and from technological advancements that threaten to make many forms of traditional employment obsolete. The episode calls into question standard advice about “safe” career paths and urges listeners to “follow the money”—not just the rhetoric.