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Financial Expert
So let's talk about the wealth gap. You should the top top 10% of Americans own 70% of their wealth currently bottom 50% own 2 to 3% of the wealth. And we know that white households have a 74% home ownership rate when Black households have a 45% home ownership rate. We know that the average white net worth is around $100,000 or so. Blacks is like 14,000. So there's a lot of disparity. Let's say there's a lot of disparity. Is it going to get worse?
Panel Member 1
I'll Go to you guys first because I have a, a gloomy take about this and I want to bring down the energy of the show. So I'll let you know. Shot go first.
Panel Member 2
You hear it in my voice.
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Panel Member 3
gonna take it.
Financial Expert
What's. What is it going to get worse?
Panel Member 3
Yeah. So do you think it's going to get worse?
Financial Expert
Yeah, it's going to get worse. It's going to get worse for everybody, but especially for the people at the bottom level because it's the, the value of the dollar has, is going down dramatically. And jobs, not only are they not paying more money, but they're losing. If you looked at the report that I believe Anthrop wanted, Claude, it's one of these put out as far as the AI fields that is going to take. And it just showed like it's just a small percentage of what they assume that the jobs will be taken over the next 20 years.
Panel Member 1
Yep.
Financial Expert
We haven't even scratched the surface yet. Especially white collars. Once again, that's why everybody's talking about these trades. That's why the trade thing is like, look, all right, look, can't beat them, join them. There's going to be some trade things that invest fest because you know, hey, why not? I, I'm tired of going against that wave. So hey, it's not a bad.
Panel Member 2
I gotta go with the trend.
Financial Expert
You got. You can't.
Panel Member 3
Everybody can't do the same thing.
Financial Expert
You can't. It's called you can't beat them, join them. I will say this. I did some research on this. Electricians is the hardest thing to do. It's also why they potentially make the most money. But electrician is kind of hard. Like you got to go to the, the, the program. You gotta be an apprentice for four years. You got to pass several tests. Then. Next on that list is plumbers. Ian, has they kicked in? He lost. Ian.
Panel Member 3
Keep going.
Financial Expert
Next on that list. Next on that list is plumbers.
Panel Member 3
Yeah.
Financial Expert
Which is also pretty difficult.
Panel Member 3
I did research on it and, and necessary.
Financial Expert
They're all necessary.
Panel Member 3
Yeah, 100%.
Financial Expert
But the easy and nothing is easy in this world. The easiest out of the trades to get in.
Panel Member 3
Do you know, I mean there's so many trades.
Financial Expert
H Vac.
Panel Member 3
Okay.
Financial Expert
H Vac is a relatively easiest trade that you can actually get up and running. So that was interesting. And the H Vac is obviously needed. And they do a variety, they do a variety of different things. They cover, they cover wide range of house needs and commercial building needs as well. H Vac.
Panel Member 3
Something we can Attest to for sure.
Financial Expert
For sure.
Panel Member 3
Definitely needed the H Vac. You need your avac, you need your electrician, and you need your plumber. Vitally important.
Panel Member 2
Sure.
Financial Expert
H Vac, H Vac, make the world go around. But, yeah, construction, that's kind of a little difficult to get into as well, like on. On the highest level. So. All right, long story short, yes, all signs are pointing to the wealth shifting even more. We're about to have the largest wealth transfer in history. When we talk about baby boomers passing down 401ks.
Panel Member 3
Yep.
Financial Expert
Passing down IRAs, passing down pension plans, passing down homes, we're about to see trillions of dollars being transferred over the next 20 years. The largest wealth transfer in American history. Sad part about it. And life insurance. I forgot to mention that the sad part about it is that a lot of people in our ecosystem, their parents don't have any 401k, they don't own a home, and they don't have life insurance. So the rich get richer. Unfortunately, in life, sometimes the rich get richer, and sometimes you can get rich by accident. Literally, you could just get rich by accident. But if you're not, if, if you're not fortunate enough to get rich by accident, you got to get rich on purpose.
Panel Member 1
Big facts.
Financial Expert
Don't let that go over your head.
Panel Member 3
Can I, Can I add something to this? Because I had a. I had a conversation last night with one of the wealthiest people that I've been around, and the conversation about AI came up, and our interview came up with Sinead about life expectancy. And one of the things we were talking about was the idea of people living longer, but also the reason why they want to live longer. Right. They want to accumulate more wealth, for sure. If the wealthiest people are living longer to accumulate more wealth, well, what happens to the people who are trying? Right. Because they're staying and occupying those spaces? I was like, damn right. Like, that means that they're always going to be a permanent employee class like that it grow because. Right. It's not being passed down to your kids anymore. This ain't like, oh, they're gonna, they're gonna botch this. The way we're going to look at generational wealth is going to be completely different. And then I was like, well, if they live longer, who. Who can do it? And so we started the conversation of Eli Lilly. And I know some people are putting in the chat and what GLPs are doing in terms of weight loss and obviously that the health, you know, benefits of people not becoming at risk. What AI is going to do for disease, diabetes, sickle cell, cancer, things of those natures. And it dawned on me that this is, yes, it's a health issue, but who can afford it? Because the next thing we talked about were peptides, which is like the new wave. Like, this is really expensive. Like, this is like a. They're saying, like, it works faster for weight loss and it attacks fat differently, but it's very expensive. And so the people who are doing that and the people who are trying to preserve and live longer, that comes at a cost. And so for the person who can't afford to pay their rent, or the person who has student loan debt, or the person who has credit card debt, can they afford to be in that category of people who are saying, hey, we're going to try to live longer. Whereas the people who have capital will decide, yes, we're living longer and we can afford to live longer.
Financial Expert
Well, everybody can afford to live longer.
Panel Member 3
Well, if health care doesn't become affordable, then they won't.
Financial Expert
The original health care, so is, is the, the best medicine.
Panel Member 3
Okay.
Financial Expert
It comes from the earth.
Panel Member 3
This is true.
Financial Expert
Me personally, I just started the soursop. I started my soursop cleanse.
Panel Member 2
Where did you get it from?
Financial Expert
Where did I get the soursop? Yeah, like what, what retailer? Yeah, let me do the cleanse first.
Panel Member 1
Okay?
Financial Expert
No, no, no, no, that's important because I want to see. I just started it. It's a 14 day cleanse. Let me do the cleanse first. Yes, if I see positive results, I will give free promo.
Panel Member 3
This is the thing.
Panel Member 2
This was.
Panel Member 3
All these things are part of the conversation. I'm like, yes, you can. There's so many different things that people are doing right now to, you know, biohack them, their bodies naturally, industrial product, all the things. And I'm like, again, it all comes down to exposure. It comes down to having the resources, but it's ultimately going to come down to the capital that you have in order to do those things.
Panel Member 2
And so, yeah, if we don't have
Financial Expert
capital, but once again, I think that I don't agree with that though. It's more expensive to eat bad than it is. Of course it's more expensive. Like you can, you can still health as well.
Panel Member 3
Say that line again. Say that line again.
Financial Expert
It's more, it's more expensive to eat bad than it is to eat good.
Panel Member 3
Yes, I'm with you.
Financial Expert
If you really think about it.
Panel Member 3
Yeah.
Financial Expert
Like you can, you can be healthy. Being healthy is not just for rich people.
Panel Member 3
No, no, I'm not saying that. No, no, that. That. I'm not saying. I'm saying people eat healthy and still perish.
Financial Expert
Yes, of course.
Panel Member 2
And on top of that, what they're
Panel Member 3
thinking is like, I'm not trying to perish.
Financial Expert
Oh, yeah. I mean, that's biohacking.
Panel Member 3
This is what I'm saying.
Financial Expert
But what I'm saying is that we know that. It's a direct correlation from amount of money that you make from the life expectancy that you have. Black people have a lower.
Panel Member 3
That's. That's where I'm going.
Financial Expert
Black people have a lower wealth percentage, but they also live 10 years lower on average.
Panel Member 3
Why?
Financial Expert
Heart disease is the number one killer for black males.
Panel Member 3
So what are we consuming?
Financial Expert
Junk food.
Panel Member 3
Right. Because it's expensive to have the products that are actually healthier.
Panel Member 2
Real quick, hold on, hold on. I'm gonna draw this point right down the middle.
Financial Expert
A thousand dollars a week on the zaza.
Panel Member 3
I'm not listening. Yes, that happens.
Financial Expert
That happens.
Panel Member 3
But there are people who go, like, look at the grocery bill. Like, there's a difference when you go to H Mart or shop, whatever. And when you go, it's a huge difference. Can you afford to be in Whole Foods four times a month? That's tough.
Panel Member 2
But even. Even post acquisition of Amazon, because both of you are right, and I'm gonna come in the middle.
Panel Member 1
Pause.
Panel Member 2
I know.
Panel Member 1
Pause.
Panel Member 2
I'm funny. The healthier foods have been drained in pesticides where it's even harder to. That's why I asked the soursop question. Even here in Texas, shout out to hb. HB Sprouts Whole Foods. It's hard to find watermelon in store with seeds in it. You know the number one thing that most people consume once a year and don't know that it's filled with poison. It's roses on Valentine's Day. If you've ever been to a rose manufacturer, they smell amazing. But when they handle the roses, they have hazmat suits on head to toe. Ask anyone that's ever worked at a rose farm or factory. All the chemicals that are like, shout out to everybody who get the Venus at you. Flood the forever flowers and all that. You have to be mindful of how they're sourced, because all of those are not built the same. Like, Venus is fine, but some of the other brands may not be right. So even if you want to eat healthy, the companies have been sued for putting cell phone towers and energy plants and now data centers and pesticides throughout. Like, one company allegedly was so nefarious that if their seed Landed on a farmer's property, they couldn't grow crop with their own seed. So it's not just that a person can't eat healthy sometimes as we've been poisoned to death and we feel it when we go out the country, the food that we have here at a high end restaurant isn't comparable to a low end super mercado in Mexico. It's pure in comparison.
Panel Member 3
And we've, we all traveled and we've traveled the world together and we, I mean we, we all can pretty much say the same thing. Every time we eat outside the United States, it's a very different feel. Our bodies feel different. So on top of the food that we're consuming now we're, you know, we're getting sick. Right. That's obvious. Statistics are all there. It shows it. Right. So can you stay here in terms of health care? Healthcare is unaffordable. Now does that change? Does that change? So if you can't afford the health care, you can only consume the food that you can afford and the wealthier are getting wealthier and deciding that we're staying there longer. Yeah, I don't see it getting better.
Panel Member 2
And the thing about the racial wealth gap that no one ever wants to talk about or say, AI is the final infinity, Infinity Stone in racism because now it separates the racial wealth gap away from a person or a system and it puts it against the machine.
Panel Member 3
Yeah.
Panel Member 2
If you know that the creation and development of AI is going to lead to all the job erasure and AI is just code now there's no one you can sue because there isn't a legal process to sue an agent or an agentic farm for discrimination. Agent discrimination has been happening at scale for the last year and a half now. Is it affected other parts other than us? Of course. Now I've been saying that the nation is feeling, even with the unrest and the protest, they're feeling what we've been saying the last hundred years. Right. But the final Infinity Stone is to say, okay, if we can't take everything the way we want to take it, let the AI and the agents and the robotics be the face so they don't have anyone to point to to sue or go after. And that's the scary part about AI that you, you have to use it. But it's almost like using a weapon
Panel Member 1
that's going to kill you at the end.
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Podcast: Earn Your Leisure
Episode Release Date: April 13, 2026
Hosts: Rashad Bilal, Troy Millings
Main Theme: This episode explores the intersection of the racial wealth gap, health disparities, and how economic trends and technological advancements like AI are deepening divides. The hosts dive into why it's actually more expensive to eat unhealthy, challenges to generational wealth for marginalized communities, and how health and longevity are linked to wealth.
The conversation revolves around America's growing wealth gap, its connection to health and life expectancy (especially among Black Americans), and why access to health—physical, financial, and nutritional—is becoming increasingly unequal. Hosts dissect how systemic forces, advancements in AI, and the cost of healthy versus unhealthy living play into a cycle that favors the already wealthy and educated. The famous premise: “It’s more expensive to eat bad than eat good” frames a debate about agency, access, and the future of wealth and health in America.
Major Statistic: The top 10% of Americans now own 70% of the wealth, while the bottom 50% own only 2-3%. White home ownership stands at 74%, Black at 45%. Average net worth: White families ~$100k, Black families ~$14k.
[02:10]
“So let's talk about the wealth gap. ...there's a lot of disparity. Is it going to get worse?” (Financial Expert)
Host Perspective: It’s going to get worse, particularly for those at the bottom. The devaluation of the dollar, stagnant wages, and AI-driven job displacement are accelerating the divide.
[03:16]
“Yeah, it's going to get worse. It's going to get worse for everybody, but especially for the people at the bottom level because ...the value of the dollar has, is going down dramatically.” (Financial Expert)
Trades as a Lifeline: The group discusses vocational trades such as electricians, plumbers, and HVAC as more resilient fields against automation and economic uncertainty.
[04:14] - [05:36]
“Electrician is kind of hard... But next on that list is plumbers ... The easiest out of the trades to get in... HVAC.” (Financial Expert)
Wealth Transfer Coming: The largest wealth transfer in American history is approaching as trillions in 401ks, IRAs, pensions, and homes pass from baby boomers.
[06:00]
“We're about to see trillions of dollars being transferred over the next 20 years. The largest wealth transfer in American history.” (Financial Expert)
The Downside: Many in marginalized communities won’t benefit—they lack inheritances, life insurance, or assets to pass down.
“The sad part about it is that a lot of people in our ecosystem, their parents don't have any 401k, they don't own a home, and they don't have life insurance.” (Financial Expert)
Wealth and Life Expectancy: The wealthy are living longer, partly by leveraging advanced (and expensive) health interventions. This prolongs class entrenchment and limits intergenerational mobility.
[06:54]
“If the wealthiest people are living longer to accumulate more wealth, well, what happens to the people who are trying?” (Panel Member 3)
Biohacking and New Health Waves: Cutting-edge health solutions (peptides, GLP-1 medications, etc.) are costly, out of reach for most, and are further dividing longevity outcomes along wealth lines.
Original Medicine: There’s discussion of natural health methods (e.g., soursop cleanse), but access, fraud risk, and exposure are barriers for the less privileged.
[09:18]
“The original health care, so is, is the, the best medicine. It comes from the earth.” (Financial Expert) “Me personally, I just started the soursop. I started my soursop cleanse.” (Financial Expert)
Controversial Main Claim:
[10:13 - 10:34]
“It's more expensive to eat bad than it is to eat good.” (Financial Expert)
The Pushback: Eating healthy can still be perceived as costly (e.g., Whole Foods) and compounded by food quality and accessibility issues, particularly in marginalized neighborhoods. Even affordable “healthy” options in the US may be compromised by pesticides and corporate practices.
“But there are people who go, like, look at the grocery bill... Can you afford to be in Whole Foods four times a month? That's tough.” (Panel Member 3) “Even here in Texas...it's hard to find watermelon in store with seeds in it.” (Panel Member 2)
Environmental & Regulatory Challenges: Food safety and quality in America are questioned, particularly after comparing with international food standards.
[12:10 - 13:59]
“We’ve all traveled... Every time we eat outside the United States, it's a very different feel. ...Our bodies feel different.” (Panel Member 3)
“AI is the final infinity, Infinity Stone in racism because now it separates the racial wealth gap away from a person or a system and it puts it against the machine.” (Panel Member 2)
Wealth & Health Connection:
“There's so many different things that people are doing right now to, you know, biohack their bodies naturally... But it's ultimately going to come down to the capital that you have in order to do those things.” (Panel Member 3, [09:50])
Main Message Repeated:
“It's more expensive to eat bad than it is to eat good.” (Financial Expert, [10:30])
On Life Expectancy Discrepancies:
“Black people have a lower wealth percentage, but they also live 10 years lower on average.” (Financial Expert, [11:08])
On Environmental Determinants of Health:
“Sometimes as we've been poisoned to death and we feel it when we go out the country, the food that we have here at a high end restaurant isn't comparable to a low end supermercado in Mexico. It's pure in comparison.” (Panel Member 2, [13:24])
AI & Race:
“The final Infinity Stone is to say, okay, if we can't take everything the way we want to take it, let the AI and the agents and the robotics be the face so they don't have anyone to point to to sue or go after.” (Panel Member 2, [15:20])
The hosts are passionate, anchored in both data and real-life experience. Their back-and-forth blends financial literacy with sharp social commentary, delivered in relatable, off-the-cuff language. They challenge each other, stress nuance, and invite listeners to question the “inevitability” of current trends.
Overall:
This episode offers a nuanced, frank look at the intertwined crises of health, wealth, and technology in Black America and beyond, challenging the myth that eating healthy is out of reach and warning about a future where algorithms become the new gatekeepers of opportunity.