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Appreciate that, man. Appreciate. Yeah, man. You know, I'm all for the collective and I think that one of the main things that we need to be doing as a people is getting right with each other and we gotta, you know, the relationship, the family aspect is a lot of healing that gotta be done in that. And you know, I kind of keep that in my sights and I take my relationship with my woman very seriously. But, you know, deeper, even beyond us, like, I look at us as if we have the opportunity to. Course correct. We have the opportunity to stand on this platform and almost be an example, you know, to our community of what we can be and, and, you know, what. And what we should be. But, you know, no pressure, no pressure on anybody out there. I know it's definitely not easy. I want to make it seem like it's easy even being in that container with someone because, you know, it comes with his challenges for sure.

Interviewer (3:41)

Well, I wanted, that's where I want to start. I want to start with family because. How old are you? How old are you?

Interviewee (Family Man) (3:45)

I'm 30.

Interviewer (3:47)

So as a young man, you got a family, right? Like, talk about that, like talk about to you the importance of, of having that family and some of the trials and tribulations and how you're actually growing and learning how to become, you know, a family man.

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I think I've always been family oriented, you know, just from when I was a kid, you know, barbecues and all of that at my great grandmother's house. And you know, I was, I was grateful enough to be born into a big family. It's funny because I remember when I, you know, I got to like middle school and I started really connecting with my friends and, you know, going by their homes and stuff, I was like, oh, snap. Like everybody ain't got a big family, you know, And I started realizing how valuable that was to be able to grow up in a community that was so close knit and, you know, people looking out for each other. So I think that's just something that I definitely inherited from my childhood. However, there's a lot of things that I did not see. Like, like, I didn't. I've never been to. I've probably been to like two weddings in my life. Really? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I didn't see any real examples of affectionate love growing up. So even though there was family, even though there was like community, I didn't really see relationships being developed and, you know, cultivated like that. So that's something that I took with me into my adulthood. And you know, that's something that I tried to create for myself and for the following generation that's coming after me, you know, you know, my fiance and I. It's funny because just last night we like to have meetings with each other because we almost acknowledge the fact that part of being in this relationship with each other or part of being in this container with each other and part of cultivating a future with children and goals and stuff like that is you kind of got to approach it from a business minded standpoint. So, you know, we had one of our meetings, you know what I mean? Like, usually we get like a wework office or something like that and we meet in there and we, we put the goals on the board and you know what I'm saying? We really plan it out. What's the long term, what's the short term, what's the now, you know what I'm saying? What we gonna grab off the short term list and attack right now like the next 36 next. Pardon me, 12 weeks run a business.

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You know what I'm saying? So it's just kind of like creating what we feel we should have seen, becoming that. Becoming the change that we want to see. And yeah, man, you know, it's so dope because, you know, we there and it's like, you know, our son is in there. And you know, he only like four months now, but I'm just like, this is the type of future that we want to build, not only for ourselves, but for our children where they could grow up being like, oh, you know, mom and dad in the middle meeting room again, there's a meeting of the minds again. And they part of it, you know, they part of it like, this is what we gonna do. This is where we headed. And I think that's why a lot of relationships today are so doomed or they fail because you got two people who really don't come together and align with any type of goal direction or even business plan. You know, you got two people essentially just floating in space and not, you know, there was this quote I read a long time ago, right, Is like, I can't even necessarily remember it, but the analogy is pretty much like you being on a plane or you being on a boat, and just the smallest degree of you turning one degree this way, one degree in this direction, or, you know, you turn in a cell that direction, you end up somewhere you never even planned on going. You know what I mean? Negatively, you know what I'm saying? So it's all about mapping it out. And, you know, because some people are passengers on their own plane, they're passengers on their own ship, if you will. You know, like, some people don't even realize that they could get into the cockpit or they could get into the captain's seat and steer the, the whole thing where they want to go. So, you know, we apply that a lot and we make sure that we get super accountable on what this is and what we create and then what we ultimately want to be. How do you pick a person that's in alignment for you? And can you talk to us about some of the challenges that you guys face and how you work through them? I think that's a great question. I think that there's a series of like, what would I call it? Almost like, like there's the vetting process. And I think everybody is different. It's all about, you have to know personally what your value systems are. You know, what, what do you value? What's in, what's of importance to you? And you know, I'd advise people to approach it like, like, like a business. Like if you gonna sign a contract with somebody, right, you're gonna have non negotiables, like, nah, I ain't doing that, you know, and you gotta, you gotta stand firm on what those things are. And I think again, a lot of people jump into these contracts or they jump into these situations not even understanding what their terms are. And then now you get into this situation, now you want to try to change terms and you know, I mean, but you already got the other party used to, nah, like this, this is what it is. This is what we came into. This is what I expect now, you know, So I think communication, of course, is key. You know, you gotta, you gotta speak up for yourself. You gotta, like I said, you got to state what your terms are. You gotta, you gotta, you gotta draw the line and you gotta align. Most importantly, you know, you got to be with a, with a candidate that you feel like you're gonna do good business with. You know what I'm saying? Like, and I hate to make it so I, I hate for it to seem like a transactional thing, because it's really not. But I do think that the business mindset does align with it because you got to think about it. It's like, yo, listen, we could fall in love, we could be in love, but at some point we gonna have to ask each other real questions. Like, so what's your, like, like, how do you save money? What's your money spending look like? What's your money habits look like? Let's figure that out at the top, you know what I mean? Let's, let's, let's, let's, let's change the direction of where we going. Like, I like to, I like to trim the fat. Like, let's get right to it, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm not trying to waste my time, especially, you know, me being so intentional with what it is that I know that I want to do. Like, I ain't just trying to, I ain't just trying to play around. Like, you know, we going for the long term, then we got to ask long term questions. We got to have that long term vision, make sure that it lines like, I ain't gonna wait. I ain't waiting six months to ask what you, where you trying to be, you know what I'm saying? Or, you know, just ask the important questions that a lot of people don't think about. Really hit the fan, you know.

Interviewer (15:43)

So your, your fiance, how you, you asked those questions right away with her?

Interviewee (Family Man) (15:48)

Oh, listen, I sure did. I sure did. You know, get right to it. A lot of tough questions at the top. Okay. You know, and it's, it's funny because a lot of those questions that I asked, like, I could tell.

Interviewer (16:06)

She wasn't.

Interviewee (Family Man) (16:07)

Used to that, you know, she wasn't used to be challenged in that type of way. Like, yo, like, like, you know, and, and you know, she's, it's been so much progress for both of us. But yeah, you know, at the beginning it'll almost be like, what you asking me these questions for? And I'm like, girl, cause I'm serious. Like, I'm trying to, I ain't trying to play around. Like, you think this is the game. Like, I'm serious. Like, what, what do you value? What, what do you like, you know what I'm saying? Like, just getting really, really real. I don't got no time to play. I ain't joking.

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