The Craziest Child Support Story You've Ever Heard! Proof That The System Is Broken

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Earn Your Leisure

Episode: "The Craziest Child Support Story You've Ever Heard! Proof That The System Is Broken"

Hosts: Rashad Bilal, Troy Millings (iHeartPodcasts)

Guest: Rashad Tillman

Date: June 15, 2026

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Overview

This episode dives into a jaw-dropping, real-life story highlighting the deep flaws in America’s child support system. With guest Rashad Tillman, the Earn Your Leisure team unpacks how bureaucratic errors, a lack of due process, and misaligned financial incentives can ruin lives — even for those proven not to be parents of the children in question. The conversation blends shocking personal narrative, legal research, and practical advice, all with energetic, frank commentary.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Rashad Tillman’s Story: A Kafkaesque Ordeal

• Discovery of Case ([03:18]):

  • Rashad found out he had a child support case seven years after it was opened, when HR at his job alerted him to upcoming wage garnishments.
  • He had never received notice, was never served legal papers, and was blindsided by the news.

• Timeline ([04:33]-[05:40]):

  • The child in question was conceived when Rashad was 12.
  • The state started the child support case automatically when he turned 18, but he only found out at 25, with $24,000 in arrears plus interest.
  • He insisted he had never actually had intercourse, and even if he had, the biological facts made paternity impossible at the time of conception.

• Court & Bureaucracy ([06:08]-[08:55]):

  • Rashad spent 13 years battling the system: recurring license suspensions, additional fees, and repeated run-arounds regarding supposed "service" of notice.
  • The court eventually ruled he was not the father, noting the biological impossibility and lack of due process.
  • Despite this, the state had treated him as the legal father for years.

  “She comes back, I'm sorry, Mr. Tillman, we do not have your signature… But that don't matter anyway, you volunteered into the program.” — Rashad Tillman ([06:32])

  "The state just neglected this fact... The courts ruled based on that, that I was not the father of the child." — Rashad Tillman ([08:35])

2. How the System Works — and Fails

• Defaults, Process, and Lack of Notice ([07:51]-[09:59]):

  • Many child support cases begin with a default judgment if the person doesn’t respond, often due to never being served.
  • Welfare benefits trigger state action, where the state seeks repayment from presumed non-custodial parents to recover public assistance.

• DNA Testing Roadblocks ([08:01]-[08:55]):

  • For men seeking to prove they are not the father, legal barriers and uncooperative mothers can make securing clear results impossible.
  • Courts may rely on administrative evidence, even in the face of biological impossibility.

• Compound Interest and Financial Penalties ([09:59]-[10:03]):

  • Arrears accrue 10% compounded interest yearly, quickly multiplying initial debts.

  "So your dollars are having babies." — Rashad Tillman ([10:15])

3. Legal and Structural Problems

• Systemic Voluntariness and Consent ([18:02]-[19:11]):

  • Participation in the child support system is supposed to be voluntary, requiring notice, consent, and knowledge of legal consequences.
  • In reality, these due process steps are frequently skipped.
  • Rashad references legal statutes and Supreme Court cases showing mandatory requirements for notice and consent.

  “Child support is voluntary. Let's just start there.” — Rashad Tillman ([18:02])

• Separation of Powers Violations ([19:19]):

  • Rashad highlights "Holmberg vs. Holmberg," in which child support services were found to violate the constitutional separation of powers.
  • Child support agencies function simultaneously as judge, jury, and enforcer.

  "Child support is fraud because they don't follow their own procedures... They enforce their own child support orders and modify them... even though they are administrative." — Rashad Tillman ([19:19])

• Financial Incentives to States ([33:18]):

  • States receive federal incentive payments based on performance and collections, creating a conflict of interest.
  • This “kickback” system undermines fairness and due process.

  "So how can you get a fair trial under due process in a state hearing where the states are getting a kickback based on their performance to put you on child support in the first place?" — Rashad Tillman ([33:23])

• Where Does the Money Go? ([34:12]):

  • Supreme Court case "Blessing vs. Freestone" confirms that child support payments primarily benefit the state, not the child or custodial parent.

  "They actually told on themselves to keep the money... Child support was never intended to benefit the child nor the custodial parent. It was intended to benefit the state." — Rashad Tillman ([34:15])

4. Advice for Listeners in the System

• For Those Newly Served ([21:50]):

  • Immediately obtain copies of all court and case documents: summons, complaint, proof of service, default judgment, and order.
  • Ensure official procedures were followed; improper service can void cases.

• For Those Seeking Modifications ([24:47]):

  • Modifications require a "change in circumstances" and can be denied if you’re deemed to have earning "potential."
  • Any court appearance reinforces the court's jurisdiction — “general appearance” vs. “special appearance.”

• For Women Seeking Support ([21:50]):

  • The guest stresses the importance of accurate filings and due process for both parties.
  • He does not advocate for shirking parental responsibilities, only for legal accuracy and fairness.

  "If a man or woman is not taking care of their children, they 1000% need to be on child support." — Rashad Tillman ([22:27])

5. Other Horror Stories ([27:24]-[31:40])

• Mistaken/Unfair Cases:

  • Cases of women with sole custody being forced to pay child support due to false claims by non-custodial parents.
  • A clerical error that had a man on record as owing child support since age 5 (!!), which the state refused to correct.
  • Incarcerated individuals being declared served at times they physically could not have been reached; one man got his 23-year-old case dismissed after self-advocacy and research.
  • Rashad himself proved he was served at a vacant house—with the help of county utilities records.

  "He was on child support for 23 years, suspended his license, bank levies, all of these things. He was incarcerated when they said that they actually served him personally." — Rashad Tillman ([32:21])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “So your dollars are having babies.”
  — Rashad Tillman, describing compounding interest on back child support ([10:15])

• “Child support was never intended to benefit the child nor the custodial parent. It was intended to benefit the state.”
  — Rashad Tillman, citing court evidence ([34:15])

• “You got out of that. But owing $25,000 at 24, that could potentially ruin your life. And the story wasn’t your kid.”
  — Interviewer ([26:25])

• “Child support is voluntary. Let's just start there.”
  — Rashad Tillman ([18:02])

• “How can you get a fair trial under due process in a state hearing where the states are getting a kickback...”
  — Rashad Tillman ([33:23])

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Important Segment Timestamps

• 03:18 – Rashad Tillman begins his story; discovery of child support case.
• 04:49 – Child conceived at age 12; confusion over paternity.
• 08:01 – DNA testing issues; court ruling that Rashad isn’t the father.
• 09:59 – Arrears and compounding interest; severity of financial consequences.
• 14:06 – Legal fatherhood persists despite non-paternity.
• 18:02 – Legal research: system supposed to be voluntary, but often isn’t.
• 19:19 – “Child support is fraud...” — legal & administrative critique.
• 21:50 – Advice for men and women in or facing the system.
• 24:47 – Modification difficulties and pitfalls.
• 27:24 – Child support’s impact: humiliation, horror stories.
• 31:40 – Cases of outright error or fraud (incarceration, underage).
• 33:18 – Financial incentives and “kickbacks” to states.
• 34:15 – Supreme Court case: child support money benefits the state, not the child.

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Conclusion & Final Takeaways

The episode reveals a system riddled with procedural lapses, misplaced incentives, and profound human cost. Rashad Tillman’s ordeal exemplifies how easy it is for an innocent person to be swept into financial and legal chaos — in some cases, for decades. The hosts and guest don’t argue against supporting children, but call for strict adherence to due process, transparency, and justice for all parties. The key message: if involved in a child support case, get educated, demand documentation, and know your rights.

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Transcript

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[Interviewer]

Can you tell your story and that way we can kind of get a good feel of how we got here.

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[Rashad Tillman]

So I found out about my child support case seven years after it opened. When I found out about it, I found about it on payday. Ironically, HR gives me a call, say, hey, come see us. I go to hr. HR says, hey, we got an income withholding order. That was the first time I've ever heard that. Like, what is the income withholding order? They said, well, they're going to start garnishing your checks effective immediately. I'm like, who's going to start garnishing my checks? And they said, child support. I'm like, child support? What do you mean child support? They said, well, here's a notice. I contacted child support. They say, well, yeah, there's, unfortunately, there's nothing that can be done. You had six months to respond and it's been seven years. And I'm like, seven years? Like what do you mean it's been seven years? And she said, yeah, it's been seven years. Unfortunately, there's nothing that can be done. I then go down to the court, speak to the family law facilitator. They tell me the same thing. According to family code X, Y and Z, there's been a default judgment. It's been seven years. There's nothing that can be done. And that went on for another 13 years.

[Interviewer]

So. Whoa. All right, let's, let's, let's, let's unpack the situation a little bit. So you found out that you had a child support case seven years after it was filed or.

[Rashad Tillman]

Yes.

[Interviewer]

So the child support case was filed in 2000. Let's say you found out in 2007, seven years after that a child support case was filed, meaning that you. Meaning that the child was already seven years old at least. Correct. So you didn't even know you had a child.

[Rashad Tillman]

So there. So if we got to take it Back when you ask. So the child was conceived when I was 12 years old.

[Interviewer]

When you were 12?

[Rashad Tillman]

When I was 12.

[Interviewer]

Well, yeah. What year was this?

[Rashad Tillman]

This was at that time. It was 1992. 1991. Somewhere around there. Okay, so it was a while ago.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah.

[Rashad Tillman]

So I was aware that a child was born. Again, I'm 12 years old at the time. I've always maintained, like, I never penetrated the woman. Like, I'm 12 years old. We don't know what we're doing. I know that she had a child, but here we go. Now it's. It's seven years after I turn 18. So I now just understand. I. I'm 12. From 12 to 18, there's nothing. When I get to 18 to now, I'm. It's seven years.

[Interviewer]

Because they started 25.

[Podcast Host 1]

25, yeah.

[Rashad Tillman]

Yeah. So they started the case as soon as. When I turned 18 years old. So when I. Seven years after that, that's when I found out about the case.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Wow.

[Interviewer]

So the child is a teenager.

[Rashad Tillman]

Yes, at that point.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Rashad Tillman]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

And you had never seen a child before?

[Rashad Tillman]

No, never.

[Podcast Host 1]

So when you went to court, what happened?

[Rashad Tillman]

So now, here's the thing. When I went to court, there was no. I. I took them to court based on. In order to understand that. So, look, I tell them, they start suspending my license. In order for me to keep my license, I had to enter into another agreement with them. On top of the money that they already started taking, I pay them an additional 50 so I can keep my license. But every year, my license got suspended. So for 13 years, we're doing this dance, and I contact them. One day, my license gets suspended. I'm saying, hey, well, you know, why do we keep going through this? It's like, I. I don't even know why I'm doing this anyway, this fraud. And lady said, fraud? Like, what do you mean? It's fraud like, you got served. And I'm like, wait, I got served? She said, yeah, well, you got served. I said, well, tell me what day I got served. She placed me on hold. She comes back, I'm sorry, Mr. Tillman, we do not have your signature. I said, before I can say anything. The lady says, but that don't matter anyway. You volunteered into the program. I said, I did what? She said, yeah, you volunteer the program. We had your signature. She placed me on hold, comes back and says, again, I'm sorry, Mr. Tillman, we don't have your signature. So from that point, I knew that they were supposed to serve me. And that child Support was voluntary. And they said that I volunteered into the program. So I just start doing research. What else are they supposed to do? So once I studied their procedures in. And that's in 45 CFR, that's Code of Federal Regulations and 42 USC, United States Code, it has all of their guidelines there. So once I seen what they were supposed to do, I just started. I went to the court to get the documents that they filed against me in the very beginning to see if they follow their own procedures.

[Podcast Host 1]

So, okay, you go through this procedure, but for the audience, is the child yours or not? Because that's going to be the number one thing everyone wants to know. Is the child yours or no?

[Rashad Tillman]

No. So now here's the thing. Even with that, I requested DNA testing. They told me that DNA testing could be done. I asked the. They said in order for DNA testing to be done at this point, it has to go through the woman. I submitted documents to her to take DNA testing. She declined the DNA testing. So what I did was I presented evidence and then the courts actually said, well, wait a minute, at the time he, the child was conceived, he was 12 years old. This child may not had even been able to prod to produce semen at that time. So there's no way possible that this child could have conceived another child at 12 years old. But the state just neglected this fact. So the courts rule based on that, that I was not the father of the child.

[Interviewer]

So, okay, so you're from Compton, California. You're from Compton, California?

[Rashad Tillman]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

Crazy.

[Interviewer]

So at 12 years old, you, you have intercourse with a girl who's 13 years old, saying she's a little older than you.

[Rashad Tillman]

We didn't have. I never penetrated her.

[Interviewer]

Just touched it.

[Rashad Tillman]

I never penetrated her.

[Interviewer]

She, you, you don't. You, you lose contract. You, you keep in contact with her throughout the years or.

[Rashad Tillman]

No, no, this. I was 12 years old. She was my cousin's friend. I met her that same day.

[Interviewer]

So just. All right, so you don't, you don't speak to her again?

[Rashad Tillman]

No.

[Interviewer]

When you're 18, you don't, you don't know this, but she files child support on you?

[Rashad Tillman]

No, she got cash aid, food stamps and the benefits because she was a minor herself when she had this job. Okay, so when they do the cash aid, the food stamps and the benefits, now they go and go after the non custodial parent to repay this grant

[Podcast Host 1]

so it doesn't fall on the state.

[Interviewer]

And then you find out that when you 25, that you got all of this back child support that you owe?

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[Rashad Tillman]

It was 24,000 in arrears at that point.

[Interviewer]

$24,000?

[Rashad Tillman]

Yes, that they issued out. They didn't issue a full 24,000 to her. They add on a 10% compounded interest every year onto every dollar. So your dollars are having babies.

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[Interviewer]

And it's not even your kid and

[Rashad Tillman]

it's not even my kid. But but that we've seen it many times to where parents actually take DNA testing and find out that they're not the father. But they're dealing. They're still the legal father because they created a parent child relationship with that child or they went through the process or there was a default and now they're deemed the legal father.

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Yeah, I know. I know somebody who's like in New York, I believe it's like two years. You have two years to contest that you're not the father. You and if you pay child support and then like let's say in year three you find out that you're not the father, you still gotta pay child

[Rashad Tillman]

support for the remains because you're the legal father.

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So, all right, so from an educational standpoint, when you're going through this like journey of educating yourself on the child support system, what's some of the things that you found out that nobody is aware of when it comes to child support?

[Rashad Tillman]

First, I found out that child support is voluntary. Let's just start there. They they you have to consent in order to participate in this program. The consent, it's a contract. There has to be. What are the fundamentals of a contract? They have to be offered and acceptance. They send out a summons and in order for them to start the actual case, you must be given notice of. Once you establish paternity. There has to be. They have to provide both parents notice by audio, having, putting on some headphones, watching a video or someone literally telling you what are the legal consequences that of establishing voluntary paternity, what are the legal consequences? License suspensions, passports, income withholding orders, all of these things. The 45 CFR 303.5 says that at a minimum they must do these things. If they do not, then paternity was never established.

[Podcast Host 1]

For anyone who, because you've had the Internet on fire the last six months, why do you say the child support is fraud?

[Rashad Tillman]

Child support is fraud because they don't follow their own procedures. There's something called the separation of powers. And this is not my opinion. This is fact. There is a Supreme Court case law called Holmberg vs. Holmberg, Holmberg vs. Holmberg where child support services was found guilty of violating the separation of powers. What is the separation of powers? There's three branches of government. Judicial, legislative and executive branch. If you participate in one branch of government, you cannot participate in the other branch of government. But somehow child support was able to create their own family codes. That's legislative. They enforce their own child support orders and modify them. That falls under the executive branch and they find you guilty or have a hearing in their own child support administrative hearings, which is they're participating in the JU judicial branch even though they are administrative and that they have been found guilty of violating the separations of powers. And when they said it's also unconstitutional. So anything that conflicts with the United States Constitution, any state statute or any state Constitution that conflicts with the United States Constitution is null and void because the United States Constitution and Supreme Court case law is the supreme law of the land.

[Interviewer]

So, okay, child support. I did some research. $32 billion was collected in 2021.

[Rashad Tillman]

Okay.

[Interviewer]

Child support. Right. So it's obviously, business is booming these days,

[Rashad Tillman]

for sure, to say the least. Say the least.

[Interviewer]

To say the least. Right. And it's one of these things that I don't think no one's ever prepared. If you've ever been put on child support, it's like getting punched in the back of the head. You don't, there's no, you don't see it coming. You don't see it. Just give you the paper. You've been served like Nick Cannon. So for, for somebody that's in that situation. Right. And I don't want to make this. I don't want. Because it's a very sensitive topic and a lot of women, there's a lot of deadbeat dads out there. Right?

[Rashad Tillman]

True facts.

[Interviewer]

So what would be your advice? Let's start for men that have just been served and they, and they, they about to go through the process. And then what's your advice for women who actually have a legitimate case? Have a father who's not doing anything and. And they, they're going through the process. Got it.

[Rashad Tillman]

Well, so first, I'm not an attorney, so I can't provide legal advice. Just my experience dealing with child support first. If a person was served with child support, the very first thing that I did was once I found out what they were supposed to do, I went down to the clerk's office. I obtained copies of the summons, the complaint, the proof of service. I had a default judgment and the actual order, because that's what a remedy is. In order for child support to move forward and this case to be valid, those documents have to be filed correctly. It has to be under the seal of the court and signed by the clerk thereof. That's 28 USC 1691. The person also has to be served, if they're not served correctly within three and a half years. There's a Supreme Court case law called county of San Diego versus Goreham where it says that that judgment is void. And it's, it's a naughty past, present and future. Anything that comes through it and anything flows out of it is void. As far as on the women's side, I don't advocate for parents to not take care of their children. I just challenge the child support system to follow, to make sure that it follows its own procedures. I, I said it many times. I absolutely 1000%. If a man or woman is not taking care of their children, they 1000% need to be on child support. They need to be on. That's just, that's just what I am, is there's no way around it. If that person is not taking care of their responsibility, they need to be on child support. And how does that, how does that happen? A person can go down to child support services and start a case. And the, the, the. It's, it's a crazy. There's no checks and balances there because I was actually in the child support office with my phone and a young lady walks in and say, hey, I want to start a child support case. The very first thing that comes out, the receptionist bout fist you got a Social Security number. That is a crime. You just, you, you cannot press. You cannot give someone's Social Security number without their consent.

[Interviewer]

Then how do you, how do you, how do you do a claim then if you can't give your Social Security number?

[Rashad Tillman]

Well, you can provide any information because they have services on the, because, oh, they track it. They tracked it with the Social Security administration, the hospitals, the birth records agencies. So once they get enough information, they can go and on their, on the back end and they can use their services to locate that person. But I can't just give you Ian's Social Security number and say, hey, that you, you just can't do that.

[Podcast Host 1]

For the fellas that didn't have your expertise when they signed their agreements, do you have any advice for men that are currently on child support to get modifications or do you counsel in any way to help them that may be paying a little bit too much or may want to get some modifications in their current child support case?

[Rashad Tillman]

Yeah, so modifications, it, it, it's a tricky thing because anybody, in order to get a modification, there has to be a change, a significant change in circumstances. So just say Rashad is on child support and he says, okay, I lost my job. I go down to the court to get a modification. I lost my job. So what they're going to look and say, okay, well, Mr. Rashad, you made. In 2023, you made $80,000. You have a day. You have the, you have the potential to make that $80,000 a day. So therefore you don't qualify for a modification. You have the potential to make. So it doesn't matter that the fact that you are, you lost your job. That doesn't matter. But the thing is, when you, a modification that's is also part of consent because you're asking a modification, a motion, you're asking. You're recognizing the court's authority and you're giving them jurisdiction over you. They have something very tricky is something called a general appearance that says for. When a person walks into that courtroom for any reason that recognizes the court's authority and you're giving them jurisdiction over you. And the jurisdiction challenge is wave. You're waving all your rights to combat that. A person has to go in there and say I'm not making a general appearance or making something called a special appearance, which now a lot of states are trying to pull back up from. From special appearance because it's costing them money.

[Interviewer]

So. All right, child support. It almost ruined your life, right?

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You.

[Interviewer]

You got out. You got out of that. But owing $25,000 at 24, that's. That could potentially ruin your life. And the story wasn't your kid. All the. What's some of the worst stories that you've heard? I'm sure a lot of people reach out to you. What's some of the worst store. Because I. I wanna. This is important for people to understand, right? Because a lot of people don't have sympathy for people that's paying child support. They're like look, you made the baby, it's on you. I don't want to hear about it. They don't. They had never been through the system going through the child support. It's like. It's like the bullfest. Like you and with the riff raff. Like you with the rip.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah. For real.

[Interviewer]

It's like, it's so. It's like if you are a real person that is. Is like, you know, a real responsible person. It's humiliating. It's actually very humiliating to actually have to moralizing. So. So I want to kind of. I think this is important for people to kind of have a different framework. So can you tell you told your story but paint a picture of how child support can ruin somebody's life.

[Rashad Tillman]

How child support can ruin somebody's life. So the first story that comes to my mind is a young lady and we. We had this conversation and I posted it last year. She had. It was a female. She had sole custody of her kids. Her ex husband went and got on the county and said that he has the kids. They started a child support case against her and. And they start garnishing her checks. Even though the children lived in with her. She. He lived in a whole nother county. She had to go.

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[Rashad Tillman]

and fight to prove that the kids resided with her and they even she never got served. They said that they served her and at a home. Her employer came to the hearing and said that she was at work on this day and they said well that doesn't matter, it's insufficient because the process server certified under penalty of perjury that they serves you at at your home. So they wanted to modify it to zero. And you know, just from the education that I provided and my guy one credit got provided, she was like look, I don't want no modification. I want it actually dismissed. So they end up dismissing her case. But these are some of the, some of the horror stories to one guy, he was put on child support at 5 years old.

[Interviewer]

What

[Rashad Tillman]

I bull crap you not. Oh what when you look, when you look at his original summons, it has his birthday saying he was been on child support since he was five years old. Now obviously this was a clerical mistake, but they have it on his record that he's been on child support since 5 years old and they've been charging him and charging him and they will not correct it at all. People that been incarcerated said that they were served personally where they was in the feds. One of my guys, he just got his case dismissed in December. He was on child support for 23 years, suspended his license, bank levies, all of these things. He was incarcerated. When they said that they actually served him personally, he went in, he took one of my master classes. We looked at the he go in. They dismissed his case after 23 years. Even in my situation, the process server said that they served me, which I later proved they served me at a vacant house. The house was vacant. I had to subpoena Los Angeles County Department of Water and Power to come testify on my behalf. So I made LA county testify against LA county to say look on this date at this time, we didn't even have no service there. They don't care. Why because they get incentivized on the back end. So you. What was the number?

[Podcast Host 1]

What are the incentives? 33 billion.

[Interviewer]

32 billion. 32. Yeah. 32.7.

[Rashad Tillman]

But it was that the incentives or is that just the money that they collected?

[Interviewer]

That's the money they collected.

[Rashad Tillman]

So. But here's the thing. On top of that, based on their performance is 42 USC 658A incentive payments to states. The states get incentivized on the back end based on their performance on how much they collect child support. They get an actual kickback. So how can you get a fair trial under due process in a state hearing where the states are getting a kickback based on their performance to put you on child support in the first place?

[Podcast Host 1]

How? It's almost like a mutual fund.

[Rashad Tillman]

Come on now.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah, to keep the entitlements off the state. In your opinion, is child support fair for the child? I know a lot of men often have a complaint that, well, I pay child support, but most of it isn't going to my kid. What insight or advice do you have for the men that feel that, well, and.

[Rashad Tillman]

And this is not even my opinion. I. I just stick straight to the facts. There's a Supreme Court case, and I hate to be the Supreme Court case law guy, but it's there. It's a Supreme Court case law called Blessing versus Freestone. Well, five women from Arizona that was. Their children were on accounting and they were only getting a small portion of the money. And they're like, well, where is all the money going? My husband or my ex said, they take in thousands and thousands, but I'm only getting hundreds. Where's all the money? Gunning, yeah. Child support said, look, that's. That's not your money. That's our money. Child. They actually told on themselves to keep the money. So they said in Blessing versus Freestone, Child support Services themselves said child support was never intended to benefit the child nor the custodial parent. It was intended to benefit the state. And in that case, they also said that there's no entitlement to child support. There's no constitutional right to child support at all. So this is not my opinion. This is fact. These are all researchable. Google facts. You can find it.

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