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Right now, 2025 we are in the bull run. And it's ironic that we are in a bull run right before markets or prices will will increase. At the same time we're getting legislation around the world at the same time. ISO 20 or 22 got adopted by the Federal Reserve on July 14th. It's ironic that all these events are happening at one time, but with that being said, it's actually documented that the four year cycle is going to change. How it's going to look, I I can't tell you. No, no one has a crystal ball into the future. I can just tell you what these institutions actively speak about and the reason why they believe it's going to change is because like I mentioned earlier, with these ETFs being put in the pension fund and 401k plans like those investors aren't selling that allows us to be able to hold certain levels that we weren't able to hold before. And that with these institutions entering the space as well, I don't think that they want to see an 80 drawdown on capital.
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That would be like that 2026 traditionally would be the year that there'll be a nice pullback. And two years, then we run into another four years. So that that could all be changed in a matter of months.
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That could all be changed. So I'm interested on what is actually going to look like will the four year cycle hold true? Like maybe. Will the four year cycle not hold true and we have a small pullback maybe, or do we just gradually go up over time? I didn't include the document in here, not because I only want to include one from State street instead of the one about the reference. But State street actually documented that Bitcoin is less volatile than some of the magnificent seven stocks, Tesla in particular. So if a State street to actively come out and say that Bitcoin is less volatile, I think that's very telling indeed.
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Indeed.
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So I know that Larry Fink said for those of you guys who don't know who Larry Fink is, he's a CEO of BlackRock. He's a very, very important figure in the whole entire world. But he stated that tokenization is happening, that all assets will be tokenized. But he's not the only one to think that. Who else thinks that? This document goes on to say we believe there are decades of growth ahead for tokenized assets. And so do market analysts. The future predictions, Standard Charter believes that by 2034 there'll be $30 trillion of tokenized assets. Boston Consultant Group believes that by 2030 there will be $16 trillion of tokenized illiquid assets. Citi believes that by 2030 there will be five trillion dollars of tokenized digital securities. That's a lot of trillions when we really break it down. And that's only three, three organizations. So what is the entire tokenization market cap look like? Like how much value do we have? If you look at the right side of the screenshot, it says expansible addressable markets. So the total value for all these markets, I won't go down and read each one individually, is $410 trillion. But then the question becomes like, what's the actual time frame for us to tokenize these assets? Well, that's documented as well. State street actually gave us the time frame to mass adoption for, for tokenization. At the bottom of the screen on the graph for those watching, it says time to mass adoption and transformative impact on the market. So this document came out in 2024, I think in August or November of last year, somewhere around that time frame. Now I'm gonna go on to say one year from last year, the bond market will be tokenized. Two years from last year, commodities will be tokenized three years, private equity funds four years, real estate funds, five years equities, and then 10 years down the road is real estate. But that doesn't mean that that's when they will start tokenizing those assets because these assets are actively being tokenized now. It's just time frame to mass adoption. So if we can realistically look and say 10, 15 years according to State street, that will have mass adoption for tokenization and know that this previous document tells us that there's $410 trillion to be tokenized, that's a lot of trillions. We're sitting on a 3 trillion dollar market cap. And I truly believe that the floodgates will open once we have regulatory clarity. Because institutions just need regulatory clarity. They have to know that when they adopt something, when they build something, that they won't be sued for doing so.
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So that gives us to 2030. If I, if I did the math right, by 2030, which is another one of those circle surfing your calendar days, interestingly enough, when there was a report about the company market cap companies over the next five years and Bitcoin was the number five market cap company surpassing Apple, surpassing Google, and this kind of.
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Aligns with that no lines perfectly. And that's one of those confluences that I look for because me personally I don't believe in coincidences. I don't read one document and think that's the end all be all. I need to read 3, 4, 5 documents that all saying the same exact thing for me to actually believe and actually be able to speak on it. And they're all saying the same thing now. The World Economic Forum actually has a vision, Vision 2025 where we start this adoption. And I've seen a lot in documentations that they want all want CBDC stable coins all to be regulated so that they can start building this infrastructure fully out by 2030. And ironically that aligns with the next bull run. If the four year cycle holds true, 2029 would be the next bull run year. So will the four year cycle hold true? Who knows. I've seen a documented both ways. But if it does hold true, that still aligns perfectly with these institutional targets for 2029. And 2030.
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Episode Summary: "Why 2025 Will Be a Game Changer for Crypto: Bull Runs, Tokenization, and Market Shifts"
Introduction
In this episode of the Earn Your Leisure podcast, hosts Rashad Bilal and Troy Millings delve into the transformative year of 2025 for the cryptocurrency landscape. They explore the ongoing bull run, the rise of tokenization, and the significant market shifts poised to redefine the financial and technological sectors. This comprehensive discussion provides listeners with valuable insights into the future of crypto, backed by expert opinions and documented projections.
1. The Current Bull Run and Market Dynamics
Timestamp: [01:51]
Rashad Bilal (Speaker B) opens the discussion by highlighting the present bull run in the cryptocurrency market. He remarks on the irony of experiencing a bullish phase amidst impending market shifts and legislative changes globally.
Rashad Bilal: "Right now, 2025 we are in the bull run. And it's ironic that we are in a bull run right before markets or prices will increase." ([01:51])
Bilal emphasizes the adoption of ISO 20 or 22 by the Federal Reserve as of July 14th, noting its impact on the market dynamics. He points out that institutional investments through ETFs in pension funds and 401(k) plans are stabilizing the market by preventing massive sell-offs, thus maintaining higher capital levels than previously possible.
Rashad Bilal: "With these ETFs being put in the pension fund and 401k plans like those investors aren't selling that allows us to be able to hold certain levels that we weren't able to hold before." ([02:07])
2. Shifting from the Traditional Four-Year Cycle
Timestamp: [02:47]
Troy Millings (Speaker C) introduces the concept of the traditional four-year market cycle, questioning its validity in the current climate. He suggests that the anticipated pullback in 2026, which typically leads into another four-year cycle, might be accelerated due to recent developments.
Troy Millings: "Traditionally would be the year that there'll be a nice pullback. And two years, then we run into another four years. So that could all be changed in a matter of months." ([02:57])
Bilal concurs, pondering whether the four-year cycle will hold or if the market will experience a more gradual increase or a minor pullback.
3. Institutional Validation and Reduced Volatility
Timestamp: [03:35]
Bilal brings attention to State Street's documentation indicating that Bitcoin has become less volatile compared to major stocks like Tesla. This comparison underscores the growing acceptance and stabilization of cryptocurrencies among traditional financial institutions.
Rashad Bilal: "State street actually documented that Bitcoin is less volatile than some of the magnificent seven stocks, Tesla in particular." ([03:35])
4. The Rise of Tokenization
Timestamp: [03:39] – [06:07]
A significant portion of the discussion centers on tokenization—the process of converting physical and non-liquid assets into digital tokens on a blockchain. Bilal references Larry Fink, CEO of BlackRock, who advocates for the tokenization of all assets. This sentiment is echoed by multiple financial institutions:
Bilal summarizes these projections to highlight the vast potential of the tokenization market, estimating the total addressable market at $410 trillion.
Rashad Bilal: "That's a lot of trillions when we really break it down. And that's only three, three organizations." ([04:15])
He underscores the need for regulatory clarity as a catalyst for widespread institutional adoption, suggesting that once regulations are in place, the tokenization of assets will accelerate.
5. Timeframes for Mass Adoption
Timestamp: [06:07] – [07:28]
Bilal outlines the timeline for mass adoption of tokenization based on State Street's projections:
He emphasizes that these timelines represent the period required for mass adoption, not the initiation of tokenization processes.
Rashad Bilal: "Now I'm gonna go on to say one year from last year, the bond market will be tokenized. Two years from last year, commodities will be tokenized..." ([05:25])
6. Alignment with Bull Run Projections
Timestamp: [07:28]
The conversation circles back to the interplay between tokenization and the crypto bull run. Bilal references the World Economic Forum's Vision 2025, which aligns institutional tokenization goals with the anticipated 2029 bull run, suggesting a synergistic relationship between regulatory advancements and market growth.
Rashad Bilal: "And ironically that aligns with the next bull run. If the four year cycle holds true, 2029 would be the next bull run year." ([07:10])
He concludes by contemplating the potential changes to the four-year cycle, acknowledging that while uncertainties remain, the convergence of institutional investments, regulatory clarity, and tokenization efforts are likely to drive significant market developments.
Conclusion
This episode of Earn Your Leisure offers a forward-looking analysis of the cryptocurrency market, emphasizing the pivotal role of tokenization and institutional adoption in shaping the financial landscape by 2025. Through expert insights and corroborated by multiple financial institutions' projections, Rashad Bilal and Troy Millings present a compelling case for why 2025 stands as a transformative year for crypto. The discussion underscores the importance of regulatory frameworks and the burgeoning acceptance of digital assets, setting the stage for what could be a defining period in the evolution of global finance.
Notable Quotes
Rashad Bilal ([01:51]): "Right now, 2025 we are in the bull run. And it's ironic that we are in a bull run right before markets or prices will increase."
Rashad Bilal ([03:35]): "State street actually documented that Bitcoin is less volatile than some of the magnificent seven stocks, Tesla in particular."
Rashad Bilal ([04:15]): "That's a lot of trillions when we really break it down. And that's only three, three organizations."
Rashad Bilal ([07:10]): "And ironically that aligns with the next bull run. If the four year cycle holds true, 2029 would be the next bull run year."
Key Takeaways
Bull Run Continuation: The ongoing bull run in 2025 is sustained by institutional investments and regulatory advancements.
Tokenization Surge: Massive projections for the tokenization of various asset classes signal a revolutionary shift in asset management and ownership.
Regulatory Clarity: Clear regulations are essential for institutional confidence and widespread adoption of cryptocurrency and tokenized assets.
Market Stability: Increased institutional involvement contributes to reduced volatility in the crypto market, making it more comparable to traditional blue-chip stocks.
For those interested in the intersection of finance, technology, and entrepreneurship, this episode provides a deep dive into the factors that could make 2025 a landmark year for cryptocurrency and digital assets.