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Com. So I was. I want to start, you know, with sports fans. So I want to have a sports conversation if we can. Sure. You where you're at right now, Lance. Rest. You know, one I noticed is that the level of disrespect that LeBron has received is pretty historic when you really think about it. Right From Dylan Brooks saying he's the most overrated player in the league. The dude in Cleveland saying that it's Donovan Mitchell City now. I don't know. I just feel like this is. Is Michael Jordan. When he was at the tail end of his career playing with the Washington Wizards, he was. They had so much reverence for Michael Jordan or even Kobe's last season. I feel like it's just. Why are people so disrespectful to somebody that's in the tail end of his career and has only done great things in the league? Asking for a friend. Asking for a friend. You know. You know what's weird this happened. Well, you gotta think about how the history of the league and Magic and Bird and Michael, they kind of made it mainstream. So I can't be. I can't make anyone on their villains just yet. I have to have people fall in love with the story. So Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, east versus west, white boy, black guy, this, that, then Michael flies in the air. So it was marketing more entertainment, so to speak. And then now that they got you hooked and it got good versus evil kind of thing in whatever city you from, I believe that now kind of like reality show Kardashianists and all the Housewives and all this other stuff. They like drama. So I think advertisers said, scratch the head, say, ah, it's an entertainment drama. Sells better than just the good old keeping everything cool. So when you go on these talk shows, as far as the sports ones, I can bash. Bash. Bash. Oh, that's more ratings. Okay, cool. Bash Bass. Oh, that's more ratings. Okay, cool. Because if everybody say all good stuff, it's boring to the entertainment world. That's just my, you know, my thing. And I think that started kind of like late 2000s, right? So you didn't hear it about Mike or Charles or Robin kind of thing where it was like, everybody's a villain, right? Someone's always saying something negative about only 5,000 of us that ever played this game. Right? Like, and then another thing too is it's like, you Go to any park. There's no other sport in the world where everyone thinks, even when they just know basketball, that they can play to the level that we played at. There's no other sport like that. No baseball, no tennis, no nothing. Everything is, man, I get B5 or 10 on him. This guy's trash. You know what I mean? And you're looking like, yo, come on, dog. That's how this works, you know? I mean, like, guys are pretty good over here. Okay, Are we in a scary time for the NBA? Because I look at the ratings and they say, like, yes, you know, Christmas was an all time high and the ratings and up. I'm a fan, a die hard fan. You see, I'm in my Bulls Derrick Rose retirement jacket tonight and I'm thinking to myself, I can't tell you where the games are, right? Like they're streaming everywhere, all over the place, which makes it tough. The other part of it is that. And we gotta be careful with LeBron because he's a megastar in this space. Curry's a megastar. I put Durant right on that level. But if we're not careful, we won't be able to have another megastar. I don't. Who's the next megastar that they can build that story around? A great question. I would say who's my favorite? Who can be the mega, mega, megastar Is Anthony Edwards. His, his character, the way he play. He's a dog. All of that is just like phenomenal to me. What about Wemby? About Wemby? I, I don't know if he's a megastar because, see, Wimby, listen, I love Wemby. And please, I don't want him to. No one to take you inside of contest. He's kind of like, he's very French. He's very. It's very like snooty kind of thing. So it's like he's moody, you know what I mean? Like, he's a moody individual. Now. I love him, right? The guy is on point, especially at such a young age. But Anthony Edwards has a lot more character at the moment to be that, right? Because, you know, he's from the hood and he can joke, but he'll come back at you. And I mean, it's just, it's just a little something different now. I would say Wemby, yeah. But I haven't seen his personality. We've seen Anthony Edwards, every phase of him. I think the interesting part with Ant, because I would agree with you with Ant, it's just that we live in a world of social media. So it's not just the on the court things. Like the marketing is great, but then we got the off the court things. I feel like when the league thought Zion was going to be that guy, now we hear the off the court things when Ja was supposed to be the guy, then we see the off the court things. It becomes a little tricky, right, to say, like, here, go support. This is going to be the face of the league. That's right. So now think about it. Mike, Charles, Dennis, everybody. This was no social media, so they couldn't gauge it of what the fans wanted to see more of. Drama, cleanness, this, that, and then the league is just starting. So I can't put all your business out there in the streets because we need the fans now. It's NBA is solidified. So I can. Because of social media. I can put that out there if I really want to because the polls are showing that drama sells. So Anthony was with the baby mamas or this person with this and this person with that. Oh, yeah. But he's still playing hard. It's like, it's a lot of fluff. So, I mean, I think that's why they promote it like that, because that's what the world want to see more. As much as they don't want to see it, they want to see drama, they want to see noise, they want to see reality show type of stuff also at the same time. But you know me personally, between Wemby and Anthony Edwards, I would pick Anthony Edwards because he's maturing slowly, but he's still that megastar. So you was a hell of a player in your day. And you know, you came up traditionally, right? Like, as far as high school, college, NBA, we're seeing a change in that happen now where NIL has really changed the dynamic where, like Rick Patino said he's no longer recruiting college high school players. Yeah. And you got kids that's 25 years old playing in college, and kids, some kids in college are making more money than professional athletes. I couldn't have did it. I couldn't have did it. I couldn't. 20 years old, bro. I'm getting six, seven figures. I'm out of control. You out of your mind. You're gonna be the mayor. You're gonna be the governor of Rhode Island. Why am I. Man, listen, you hear me? I'm telling you right now, I have bolt all types of stuff in Rhode island. But do you think that it's ruining. Do you think that it's ruining basketball. I don't. Let me tell you why I don't fam is because this transition happened in the 80s with NBA players, okay? There was guys that were drinking still at halftime or smoking cigarettes and you know, maybe doing drugs, whatever it is. That's every sport that wasn't just no basketball. But my point is it was like it was new money and it was new environment, it was new situations. So it's going to be an ugly little situation that's going on for these college guys getting that bulk of money in their families and everything like that. I think it's a blessing. The silver lining behind it. Kind of like the Trump thing, right? The silver lining behind it is someone has to sacrifice for us, for us to see what we should not do. You understand? So as bad as it may look, it's not going to stop nil deals. It's not going to stop kids getting paid now. It's already started. So now the kids in the future will say, okay, you know what? I'm going to do this. I'm going to get an ira. I'm going to do this. I'm on. I'm going to live off of 2,000amonth. They're going to see it. The Russell Westbrooks of the world, the Chris Paul's, The Carmelo Anthony's, LeBron James, the. You know, you see it become, it's not just Michael and Larry Bird and you know, Isaiah Thomas and you know, Magic Johnson. It's a whole bunch of guys that are businessmen now. So it's going to be ugly for a second until it gets to that point where guys a lot more, you know, money is money and let's figure out how we can make it last. 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This episode of Earn Your Leisure dives into why LeBron James, despite his monumental impact on the NBA, often faces more public criticism and disrespect than Michael Jordan ever did, particularly in the later stages of his career. The discussion weaves in business, media, evolving fan culture, social media, and the rapidly changing landscape of basketball stardom and player compensation.
This episode of Earn Your Leisure offers a layered, candid conversation about the evolution in how NBA stars—particularly LeBron James—are perceived and criticized as the league, media, and business landscape change. The hosts highlight the media’s shift toward drama, the new challenges social media brings, concerns about cultivating future superstars, and the business realities for new generations of players. Their insights deftly combine culture, business, and personal perspective, making this episode essential listening for basketball fans and anyone following the business side of modern sports.