Today on the Ecomm Breakthrough Podcast, we’re joined by a true expert at the intersection of technology, data, and e-commerce growth. Ellis Whitehead is the co-founder of DataBrill and a leading mind in PPC management, data science, and business intelligence space. With a PhD in automation and years of experience architecting smart technology for Amazon sellers, Ellis has helped brands leverage data-driven strategies to scale profitably and stay ahead of the competition. He’s here to share how sellers can use advanced analytics and Ai to break through the seven-figure ceiling and unlock the path to eight figures and beyond. Ellis, welcome to the show!

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Leveraging AI and data for scaling e-commerce businesses, particularly for sellers with seven-figure sales.
Importance of establishing a proper data infrastructure before utilizing AI.
The concept of a "data chain" consisting of four essential links: centralized data, capturing history, connecting disparate data sources, and constructing guardrails for AI.
Challenges faced by e-commerce sellers regarding messy or disconnected data.
The significance of capturing historical data for trend analysis and forecasting.
The necessity of connecting various data sources to derive meaningful insights and metrics.
The role of structured databases versus unstructured data storage solutions like shared drives.
The impact of AI on decision-making processes and the importance of providing accurate context for AI tools.
Recommendations for hiring the right talent to manage data infrastructure and AI integration.
The critical need for a solid foundation before implementing AI to avoid compounding errors in business operations.

In this episode, host Josh Hadley interviews Ellis Whitehead, co-founder of Data Brill, about how seven-figure e-commerce sellers can leverage AI and data to scale effectively. Ellis outlines a four-step “data chain” for success: centralizing data, capturing historical records, connecting disparate data sources, and building guardrails for AI. They discuss common pitfalls, the importance of solid data infrastructure, and actionable hiring advice for building in-house data teams. The episode emphasizes that AI is only as powerful as the data foundation supporting it, offering practical strategies for sustainable e-commerce growth.

Here are the 3 action items that Josh identified from this episode:

Prioritize Data Infrastructure:
Invest in building a centralized, historical, and connected data warehouse before layering on AI. This is a full-time job—don’t try to do it all yourself.
Make Data-Driven Decisions:
Use live, visual dashboards to monitor trends, market share, and leading indicators—not just lagging P&L statements. Let data guide your strategic focus.
Leverage AI Only After Laying the Foundation:
AI can scale your business—or your mistakes. Only deploy AI agents once your data is clean, structured, and governed by clear guardrails.

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00:00:00 Podcast Introduction
Leveraging AI and data for scaling e-commerce businesses.

00:00:58 Guest Introduction
Ellis Whitehead’s background and expertise in data, PPC, and Amazon seller growth are introduced.

00:02:00 AI Hype & Seller Challenges
Discussion about the overwhelming AI chatter among e-commerce sellers and the feeling of being left behind.

00:02:37 The Importance of Fundamentals
Ellis emphasizes sticking to business fundamentals despite rapid technological changes.

00:03:11 Common Data Mistakes in E-commerce
Ellis introduces the “data chain” concept and outlines common mistakes sellers make with data and AI.

00:05:07 Overview of the Four Data Chain Links
Ellis lists the four essential links: centralized data, capturing history, connecting data sources, and constructing guardrails.

00:07:29 Step 1: Centralizing Data
Detailed explanation of why a structured database (like Postgres) is crucial versus using spreadsheets or shared drives.

00:09:21 Technical Setup for Centralized Data
Differences between databases and shared drives, and why structure, speed, and reliability matter.

00:11:38 Non-Technical Founders & Getting Help
Advice for non-technical founders: learning, hiring, or consulting for proper data setup.

00:15:14 Ongoing Maintenance Caveat
Ellis explains that data systems require ongoing maintenance due to changing APIs and data sources.

00:16:45 Ways to Ingest Data
Different methods for getting data into databases: APIs, manual downloads, and handling multiple currencies.

00:19:15 Navigating Amazon API Access
Challenges and solutions for brands seeking Amazon API access, including using third-party services.

00:21:45 Step 2: Capturing History
Why historical data is vital for trend analysis, forecasting, and making informed decisions.

00:24:27 Use Cases for Historical Data
Examples of how historical data helps with leading indicators, seasonality, and strategic decision-making.

00:26:30 Pitfalls of Ignoring Trends
Dangers of relying on static data blocks and the importance of trend analysis for inventory and forecasting.

00:29:10 AI Automation Cautionary Tale
Risks of automating decisions without proper context and historical data.

00:31:01 Tracking Keyword Popularity Over Time
How tracking keyword trends can explain sales drops and inform campaign adjustments.

00:33:24 Step 3: Connecting the Dots
Combining disparate data sources to calculate advanced metrics and gain actionable insights.

00:35:53 Practical Tactics for Data Integration
How to use database views, scheduled calculations, and file storage for efficient data analysis.

00:37:05 Step 4: Constructing Guardrails
Building guidance and guardrails so AI can answer business questions reliably and avoid costly mistakes.

00:39:06 Guardrails in Action: Use Cases
Examples of how proper guardrails enable AI to deliver actionable, accurate reports and campaign strategies.

00:43:12 Building In-House Data Teams
Advice on hiring the right mix of technical talent or using consultants.

00:44:30 Three Actionable Takeaways
Summary of key actions: hire for data roles, let data drive strategy, and only use AI after building a solid data foundation.

00:47:38 Final Recommendations & Closing
Ellis’s final advice: start centralizing data in Postgres and set up guardrails for AI.

00:48:07 Book Recommendations
Ellis shares influential books: “Warren Buffett Accounting” and “1984.”

00:49:30 Favorite AI Tools & Workflow
Ellis describes his preferred AI tools and workflow: Claude, VS Code, TypeScript, Deno, Postgres, and git.

What is Git? (00:50:19)
Explanation of git as foundational versioning software for code and text files.

00:51:22 E-commerce Influencer Recommendation
Ellis recommends following George Meressa for advertising and e-commerce insights.

00:51:51 Where to Find Ellis Whitehead
Information on how to connect with Ellis and Data Brill for further help.

00:52:20 Podcast Outro
Closing remarks and call to subscribe and review the podcast.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

The #1 Mistake Ecom Brand Owners Are Making with AI