Episode 336 – Sikisa / The Front-Facing Public

Summary

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Ed Gamble & Matthew Crosby on Radio X

Episode 336: Sikisa / The Front-Facing Public
Released: November 30, 2025

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode features Ed Gamble & Matthew Crosby's trademark blend of improvisational comedy, listener engagement, and playful generational debate. The central focus is twofold: special guest stand-up comedian Sakisa joins to discuss her upcoming YouTube special, "Life of the Party," and the hosts continue their recurring investigation into the mysterious habits, references, and culture of "the young" – with in-depth, tongue-in-cheek interviews with Radio X's younger staffers.

The show swerves from raucous riffs about the "Radio X Vatican" and how few people came to Ed’s local charity fair appearance, to meta-discussions on pop culture, heavy metal, memes, parties, and trousers, with the common thread being the hosts’ affectionate bafflement at a rapidly changing world.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Radio X as the Vatican of Rock (00:11 – 03:30)

• Ed & Matthew open with a whimsical bit about if Radio X were a country, ultimately declaring it’s the "Vatican City" of the Global network – the core of “the Church of Rock.”
  • Ed: "We are the very center of the Church of Rock." (01:08)
  • Imaginary scenario: Chris Moyles as the “Pope”, with DJs as cardinals.
  • Use of AI to edit Johnny Vaughan into Pope conclave scenes — riff on technology's pointlessness except for silly jokes.

2. Podcast Correspondence: Listener Letters & Cultural Confusion (03:36 – 10:52)

• Listeners write in to share their confusion about musicians (Terence Trent D’Arby misheard as a football club), memories from Ed’s New Zealand tour, and references to infamous internet memes ("be bisexual, eat hot chip and lie").
  • Ed: "You genuinely don't know what a difference you make to me. And I'm all of your listeners. We may all be thick, but we are thick and grateful." (05:03)
  • Decoding meme generational gap: Vin explains the meme’s origin and struggles with Gen Z references.
• The team debates doing another “World Cup of Fruit,” referencing past running gags.

3. Top Five: The Bald Musicians Quiz (06:51 – 08:23)

• Quick-fire musical quiz: songs/artists that connect through baldness, leading to tangents on bald icons in metal.
  • Vin: "From number two and number five, I think you could get it… Man on the Moon… and Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad?... Baldies." (07:43)
  • The hosts riff on bald musicians across genres, culminating in comical metal references.

4. Young People & The Generational Divide (20:07 – 47:51, and 48:36 – 53:14)

• Ed’s “Chat with the Young”: Series of interviews with Jay, Margot, Emily, and Chris, all in their 20s, exploring:
  • Their awareness (or lack thereof) of classic British TV — Only Fools & Horses, Goodnight Sweetheart, You Bet!, Get Your Own Back.
  • Old music vs. their current favorites: Calvin Harris, Jamiroquai, Duran Duran, and confusion over what counts as “old.”
  • Margaret’s gig-going and Jamiroquai knowledge (or not).
  • The meme, music, and clubbing culture gap: WhatsApp in the club, lack of formal “clubs” these days, and rise of bar culture with trainers over heels.
• Meta-commentary:
  • Matthew pokes fun at Ed lurking around the building like a “local character at a bus stop.”
  • The whole bit becomes a satire of workplace generational research gone awry.
  • “What is old music?" “Beethoven,” one young guest replies.
  • Surreal moment: hosts reckon with the reality that The US Office is considered "old TV" by Gen Z.

5. Sakisa Interview: "Life of the Party" (28:39 – 38:46, 33:06 – 34:40)

• Topic: Sakisa’s new stand-up special going to YouTube Dec 21 (Turtle Canyon Comedy)

• Party Philosophy:

  • Sakisa: "I think if it's me invited to a party, then you know it's going to be a good time and I think that's how I am with everything." (32:28)
  • Brings her own food to bad house parties, sometimes ordering KFC/Domino’s if hosts fail.
  • Matthew: “I respect you for it. It's a bold move… what you are saying to them is you've not planned this party well enough.” (31:15)

• Clubbing is dead:

  • “Clubs don't exist anymore. It's all about bars that turn into after-parties, concerts, or festivals,” per Sakisa (34:16)

• Big Pig Question (by producer Stuart Laws):

  • “What’s the biggest pig you can imagine?” Hilarity ensues as Sikisa alleges a three-metre pig in Barbados, hosts challenge her math.

6. Ed’s Christmas Fair Fiasco (12:03 – 18:15, 47:21 – 47:44)

• Ed recounts the humiliating story of opening Bromley Greener and Cleaner Christmas Fair to precisely zero fans; neither wife nor even his dad showed up.
  • Matthew: "Pretend to be a pirate or something." (13:23)
  • Ed: “I had to cut a ribbon staring out across an empty shopping center. I bet that didn't happen to Paul Ready…” (12:24)
  • Later: Ed confronts dad, who admits, "I didn't forget, I just couldn't be bothered." (47:23)

7. Heavy Metal, Bums, and Norwegian Pilgrimages (39:06 – 42:35)

• Matthew’s trip to a legendary Norwegian black metal record store, Helveta/Nezblod, sampling tapes and the horror of realizing he accidentally paid £40 for a cassette.
  • Ed: “That’s the problem with shopping on holiday. Monopoly money…” (42:23)

8. Trousers, Tea Cosies, and Accepting Aging (54:04 – 54:28)

• Generational fashion gap as Ed and Matthew discuss skinny jeans vs. wide trousers, agreeing they’re “years out of date.”
  • Ed: “I look like what I am, which is a dad on the school run.” (54:06)
  • Producer Vin: “Imagine Matthew was a tea cozy anyway.” (54:29)

9. Music, Recs, and Outro Nonsense (55:06 – End)

• Wrapping up: The team offers “Beck Recs” (music recommendations), debates Taylor Swift’s latest, and share random music industry run-ins.
  • “Why are you doing your cool stories in the outro? You had a go at me...” – Ed (56:44)
  • Playful bickering over music taste and “cool stories.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On podcasting & fame
  • Ed: "I've got less famous from doing more work." (17:04)
• On generational gaps
  • Matthew: "What Gen Z have to understand…things can happen before you're born, and that's old stuff." (50:32)
  • Emily (age 26): "Old TV? Maybe The US Office and Desperate Housewives." (49:47)
• On party etiquette
  • Sakisa: "If you know me well enough, if you've invited me to your house party, you should know better. There should be food because otherwise I will judge you." (31:28)
• On clubs becoming obsolete
  • Sakisa: "Clubs don’t exist anymore. It’s all about bars that turn into after-parties." (34:16)
• Music & meme references
  • Vin: "Any female born after 1993 can't cook. All they know is McDonald's, charge they phone, twerk, be bisexual, eat hot chip and lie." (11:13)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Radio X as Vatican / Moyles as Pope: 00:11 – 03:30
• Listener Letters & “Eat Hot Chip and Lie”: 03:36 – 10:52
• Top Five Bald Musicians / Metal Riffing: 06:51 – 08:23
• Christmas Fair Humiliation: 12:03 – 18:15; Return at 47:21
• Chatting with the Young: TV, Music, Memes: 20:07 – 47:51; 48:36 – 53:14
  • Jay (23): 21:14 – 23:45
  • Margot (23): 26:34 – 28:29
  • Emily (26): 43:18 – 46:11; 49:37 – 51:13
  • Chris: 51:45 – 53:14
• Sakisa Interview: 28:39 – 38:46; 33:06 – 34:40
• On British clubbing’s demise: 34:10 – 36:33
• Norwegian Metal Pilgrimage & Pricey Tapes: 39:06 – 42:35
• Trousers, Ageing & Acceptance: 54:04 – 54:28
• Outro Recommendations/Cool Story: 55:06 – End

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Tone & Style

The episode’s tone is warm, daftly self-aware, and often meta – the hosts riff breezily, veering from high-concept observational gags to affectionate ribbing of their own lack of youth and coolness. Guests are welcomed into the in-jokes. The interplay between Ed, Matthew, Vin, and their interviewees makes the generational gap endearing rather than alienating, and the podcast is punctuated by rapid-fire wit, surreal tangents, and a sense of play above all.

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For Listeners New & Old

• If you enjoy clever, surreal, self-deprecating banter with irrepressible digressions and a healthy dose of pop culture trivia—often filtered through two blokes negotiating their own midlife anxieties—this is a prime episode.
• For fans, the show delivers classic Crunch & Crumble: absurd hypotheticals, list-based games gone off the rails, and a parade of memorable one-liners.
• For new listeners, it’s proof you can jump in at any point – you may miss running gags, but you’ll feel immediately included in their eccentric universe.

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Guest highlight:

• Sakisa brings her own brand of energy and directness, especially on party etiquette and her upcoming special. Her clarity on "life of the party" carries the same vibrancy as the hosts’ comedic approach.

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Ed: “I've got less famous from doing more work.” (17:04)
Sakisa: “If you've invited me to your house party, you should know better. There should be food because otherwise I will judge you.” (31:28)
Emily (26): "Maybe the US Office and Desperate Housewives as old TV." (49:47)

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For a blend of heavy metal, parties, meme decoding and good-natured mockery of both the young and themselves, Episode 336 is an ideal listen.

Transcript

[Ed Gamble]

This is a global player original podcast.

[Radio X Announcer]

Ed Gamble and Matthew Crosby, Radio X.

[Matthew Crosby]

Hello and welcome to the Ed Gamble and Matthew Crosby podcast of the radio show that we do on Radio X, which is a part of the global network.

[Ed Gamble]

It certainly is. And what a wonderful part of the global network it is.

[Matthew Crosby]

Where would it be on the globe, do you think? Radio X. If we're looking at all of the stations on global and the. As countries of the globe.

[Ed Gamble]

Right. Okay. Which.

[Matthew Crosby]

Which country would Radio X be?

[Sakisa]

Hmm.

[Ed Gamble]

It would be too obvious to put. I mean, what. We play a lot of British music, but then so do lots of these radio LBCs.

[Matthew Crosby]

Britain.

[Ed Gamble]

LBC has got to be. LBC has got to be England.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yes.

[Ed Gamble]

I would say. I don't even think we're. I don't think we're counting Scotland, Wales and Ireland in that. I think we're going. England is lbc.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah. Just for context, Vin has left us recording the podcast intro to go and get our guest for today, the wonderful Sakisa. Cause we're recording that after a prerecorded show today. And as we left, we're talking about which country would lbcv. You did see his face sort of go, I shouldn't leave him alone.

[Ed Gamble]

I shouldn't leave him alone. I shouldn't leave him alone. What could we be? I mean, you know, I think it possibly Vatican City, because we are the very center of the Church of Rock. So I feel like that would definitely be.

[Matthew Crosby]

And we've got our own police force.

[Ed Gamble]

We've got our own police force. We've got the Swiss Guard and we've got our own Pope in the form of Chris Moles, of course, who comes out every morning onto the balcony, wiggles around a little bit, speaks in a bunch of different languages and then goes back into his hole. Yeah, that's. That's what it is.

[Matthew Crosby]

God forbid Chris Moyles ever passes away. But we'll all look forward to the white smoke being the green smoke. Oh, yeah, green smoke.

[Ed Gamble]

It'll be the green smoke coming out the chimney.

[Matthew Crosby]

Well, I think that's. I think wicked of copyrighted green smoke.

[Ed Gamble]

They have as well, haven't they?

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

So it does have to be. Well, I mean, it's green and white. It's white smoke coming out the chimney.

[Matthew Crosby]

Of the green chimney of the green.

[Ed Gamble]

Chimney of the global building.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Who would. Who will be who? I mean, you can't. It's like the ravens in the tower.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

That'll be the end of radio.

[Matthew Crosby]

If not Johnny Vaughn's a new Pope Johnny.

[Ed Gamble]

I don't know. He has got.

[Matthew Crosby]

I want to see that. I will film Johnny Vaughan playing the Pope.

[Ed Gamble]

Johnny Vaughan in conclave.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah. Where we can edit him in.

[Ed Gamble]

Surely, surely. Listen, I rail against AI, but this is where it will come into its own, where you. You get enough of the old webcam footage from the. From the, you know, the kick about. And the four to seven thing.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

And you put it.

[Matthew Crosby]

And footage from the big breakfast.

[Ed Gamble]

The big breakfast and. And Naked City and horrible. Of course. You know all, all of this. Put it into conclave. That's what we're looking for. Come on. It's.

[Emily]

It's.

[Ed Gamble]

It's shocking that the technology out there exists and it hasn't been utilized to its fullest potential.

[Matthew Crosby]

And the. Everyone else can be cardinals.

[Ed Gamble]

Everybody. Yeah, absolutely.

[Matthew Crosby]

Well, Toby Tarrant can be a cardinal.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. I mean, I feel like if you're going to do that, then you also have to have other characters. You know, you have to have your Denise Van Houtens, your Kelly Brooks. You've got to bring them in as well. The other figures.

[Matthew Crosby]

Ricky Grover.

[Ed Gamble]

Ricky Grover. Your Catelyn Moran as well. These are all going to be figures. Who've got to be. Does the Pope have a cabinet? But they should populate his cabinet.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, yeah. It's the cardinals, isn't it?

[Ed Gamble]

Exactly. The cardinals would be Denise.

[Matthew Crosby]

Well, okay. Well, we've got to stop now because Vin's back.

[Ed Gamble]

Vin's back. And Zakisa's here.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

All right, well. Well, we're gonna stop recording this. But we've got more to say. But back in a second.

[Matthew Crosby]

Oh, yes. So we're back. Sorry we got interrupted. Well, Vin's let us record the intro ourselves.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes.

[Matthew Crosby]

But we're back now. We've interviewed Sakisa. She was great. That's coming up on the show.

[Ed Gamble]

We've done the whole show now. The whole show's done.

[Matthew Crosby]

The whole show's done.

[Ed Gamble]

Huge success.

[Matthew Crosby]

Now we were talking about what if Johnny Vaughan was pope?

[Ed Gamble]

I think we started by asking which country would radio XB in the world and what would happen if Johnny Vaughan was pope.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Do you want to go any further into that, or should we go?

[Matthew Crosby]

No, I feel like the riff's dead now.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. Yeah. It's quite hard to do a full interview and then get back into the riffing. I had a great message from Rachel, Rachel Fitzgerald from Andover. Hello, Rachel. I've recently had a.

[Sakisa]

Who.

[Ed Gamble]

Do you not know who that is? Terence Trent Darby.

[Matthew Crosby]

That's a good one.

[Ed Gamble]

That's a Good one. Yeah. I genuinely have always heard this and thought it was a football team, like Queen's Park Rangers. Makes sense.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah. Yeah. No, it really does.

[Ed Gamble]

Makes perfect sense. Yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

Well, because the River Trent.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. And Derby is around.

[Matthew Crosby]

Derby, really, isn't it?

[Ed Gamble]

Terence Trent Darby. Yeah. Sheffield Wednesday. Terence Trent Darby. Yeah. However, I was binging some old taskmaster while on maternity and Greg referenced Terrence Trent Darby as if it were a person. Well, there's a reason for that. It is a person. I still haven't Googled it. Him. Thank you. I still haven't Googled it. Purely out of the love for your show and this particular FORMATTED texter Good luck in the charts this week, you legends. And I've said this before, but I'll say it again. You genuinely don't know what a difference you make to me. And I'm all of your listeners. We may all be thick, but we are thick and grateful. And Rachel has put a slightly more personal message on the end of that. Thank you so much, Rachel. That means the absolute world.

[Matthew Crosby]

Cheers, Rachel.

[Ed Gamble]

But you know what? I think we can break with format. Google Terence Trent Tabby.

[Matthew Crosby]

His music is absolutely no sign.

[Ed Gamble]

Your name across my heart I want you to be my baby. He's good. He's really good.

[Matthew Crosby]

We need to get a young person in the room.

[Ed Gamble]

Terence Trent Darby had an amazing first album. Everybody loved it. And then he sort of lost his mind. Had an absolute, sort of like. It took, you know, years and years to make his second album. It was not as good.

[Matthew Crosby]

Poor love.

[Ed Gamble]

Poor love. You know, fame's a tricky thing, as we'll find out in my intro. We've also got a top five, but we'll do that in the outro when Vin gets back. This is from Amanda in Wellington who says, PS, Ed, remember when you toured here and you're showing Wellington was in a literal shed? We do love you, I promise. Yes, dear. Crunch Crumble and Vintage Harvest. Has that been done before? I don't think so.

[Matthew Crosby]

No. I don't think so. He's back now.

[Ed Gamble]

Happy radio, lads.

[Matthew Crosby]

Don't mind if I do.

[Ed Gamble]

I need this, by the way. You know, I always say you get the listens you deserve.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

I need you to know about a conversation I just had with my cat.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah?

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

Oh, yeah. 100%.

[Ed Gamble]

It's our listeners. Let's gloss over that. We will. In response to her commentary about the lack of food in her bowl, I completely involuntarily. My goodness, my trousers. I thought you'd like to know this is the level of influence you have over the human psyche. Please use your powers wisely and please, for the love of God, don't do the World cup of Fruit again. Amanda from New Zealand. Physician heel Vice.

[Matthew Crosby]

It must have been four years since the World cup of Fruit. It's time for a new one, isn't it?

[Vin (Producer)]

Well, it never happened, did it?

[Ed Gamble]

Never happened. Never happened.

[Matthew Crosby]

Let's do it.

[Vin (Producer)]

Good idea.

[Matthew Crosby]

Good idea.

[Ed Gamble]

We should do it very, very quickly. From Alex.

[Matthew Crosby]

Hello.

[Ed Gamble]

A top five. Do you want to do a top five?

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, let's do a quick top five.

[Ed Gamble]

Mayonnaise.

[Vin (Producer)]

Oh, I liked this.

[Ed Gamble]

Man on the Moon Come Home Shuffle.

[Vin (Producer)]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Why does my heart feel so bad?

[Vin (Producer)]

Big fan of Shuffle.

[Ed Gamble]

Now these are songs, they are songs. But what is the. What is the. The. The joining factor between these songs?

[Vin (Producer)]

So I think from. From number two and number five, I think you could get it. Man on the Moon.

[Emily]

Right?

[Ed Gamble]

Man on the Moon and why Does My Heart Feel so Bad? So that's man on the Moon is REM yeah, it's. It's from Automatic for the People. It's about Andy Kaufman and Elvis. It was a. It was a. Yeah. There was a film called it why Does My Heart Feel so Bad? Moby Play, Moby and Oreo.

[Vin (Producer)]

Just picture him. There you go.

[Ed Gamble]

Baldies. Oh my God. Mayonnaise is Billy Corgan. Yeah, but he wasn't bald when he recorded it. You gotta go melancholy. Infinite Sadness Beyond.

[Vin (Producer)]

This is Shuffle is Bombay Bicycle Club. And only two of them are bald.

[Ed Gamble]

That's enough.

[Matthew Crosby]

That's enough.

[Vin (Producer)]

Three of them are bald, actually.

[Ed Gamble]

Anyway, that's. That's very good, Alex.

[Matthew Crosby]

That's good. Yeah, I like that.

[Ed Gamble]

Really enjoyed that.

[Matthew Crosby]

I'm gonna do my Bolt My Bald top five.

[Ed Gamble]

Anthrax.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

It doesn't sound like it.

[Matthew Crosby]

Of course.

[Ed Gamble]

You big, big fan of Phil Anselmo.

[Matthew Crosby]

From Dropping Plates Were Disturbed. Of course.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah. There's a lot of good baldies in metal.

[Matthew Crosby]

Actually, I'm a big fan of Pantera's music.

[Ed Gamble]

I would say you like politics as well. Not a big fan of politics.

[Vin (Producer)]

Have you ever mentioned Pitbull yet?

[Ed Gamble]

Pitbull's not really metal, is he? He's kind of metal. He's kind of. We haven't played Pitbull on a metal alarm call. This is final message from Annabelle. Oi, oi, me lovelies. Matt and Vic Vinegar and Hugh. Honey. Okay, all right. I had to no idea what did that means. But that's fine because this is. This is a 22 year old writing in to say that we're old.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yes.

[Ed Gamble]

I had to email in to pay my respects to the young, be bisexual, eat hot, chip and lie listener from last week's podcast. In case the reference was missed, she is quoting a meme that is a truly foundational text on the Internet.

[Matthew Crosby]

I see.

[Ed Gamble]

Breathtaking to watch.

[Matthew Crosby]

Well, foundational is it? Because the Internet was founded long before you were on it.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, a long, long time ago. Exactly.

[Matthew Crosby]

We're talking foundational text of the Internet is Lemon party and Two Girls, One cup.

[Ed Gamble]

Talk to me about goats and we'll talk about foundational to the Internet, mate. Is this on? Am I talking to the wrong bit of it? By the way? It really feels like I'm.

[Vin (Producer)]

No, you're fine.

[Ed Gamble]

Am I? Yeah, yeah, maybe it's.

[Vin (Producer)]

You're right, you've gone mad.

[Ed Gamble]

Maybe it's the headphones.

[Vin (Producer)]

Keep all that in.

[Ed Gamble]

Keep all that in. Keep all that.

[Matthew Crosby]

Keep all that in.

[Vin (Producer)]

Anyway, that's why I moved. Moved you onto that mic.

[Ed Gamble]

I thought that was. That one sounded better than this one. Maybe.

[Vin (Producer)]

No, no.

[Ed Gamble]

Breathtaking to watch all three of you hear it for the first time and do a pirate impression. Truly the oldest disc jockeys on the circuit.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yes.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, fair enough. Also, as a 22 year old whippersnapper, I have a Beatles poster on my wall and collect cassette tapes. I also went as Joan of Arc with a Walkman. I like that. For Halloween this year she's put Big mouth strikes again. But you don't need to. Annabelle. We know what that was. Which I think is this disturbingly Radio X costume. There's gonna be a lot of explanation that. Yeah, you're gonna have to say, yeah, it's from a song by the Smith.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

No, I don't like their music, but I do agree with his politics. But then again, I listen to this show so I automatically age 10 years every time I press play. And Sam can eat my shorts. Bollet. I don't know, Bolit. What does that mean? That mean at the end there? Show me B O L I T C T W. Bolit. To quit.

[Vin (Producer)]

Is it meant to be good luck in the charts this week? Is it meant to be a G? Would that work?

[Ed Gamble]

But a bit? No. Oh dear.

[Vin (Producer)]

Well, I don't know.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh dear. I've really lost.

[Matthew Crosby]

Breakdown.

[Ed Gamble]

Annabelle, get back in touch in terms of what bollock means.

[Matthew Crosby]

Best of luck in the charts this week.

[Ed Gamble]

That's what it means. Best of luck in the charts this week. There we go.

[Vin (Producer)]

So be bisexual, eat hot, chip and lie. After reading that email, I then Asked producer John, who is the young person in the office, if he. If the phrase eat hot chip meant anything to him.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Vin (Producer)]

Cause I didn't understand last week, just found it funny. So he sent me. He immediately laughed and sent me the tweet that I've just forwarded onto you.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, great.

[Vin (Producer)]

It's a tweet from 2019, foundational. It says any female born after 1993 can't cook. All they know is McDonald's, charge they phone, twerk, be bisexual, eat hot chip and lie.

[Ed Gamble]

Okay, that's.

[Sakisa]

That's.

[Vin (Producer)]

I don't understand it, but that is.

[Matthew Crosby]

Funny retweets, you know. Come on.

[Vin (Producer)]

That's very funny, though.

[Matthew Crosby]

I've had tweets that got more retweets than that. They're not foundational. No, the one about reading Christmas Carol and they never mentioned Scrooge's a Duck. Come on.

[Ed Gamble]

That's good.

[Matthew Crosby]

Where's that? Where's my foundational.

[Ed Gamble]

You did a funny one about Boris Johnson. That did really good. That did.

[Matthew Crosby]

That did really good.

[Ed Gamble]

That did really good numbers.

[Vin (Producer)]

Is this the intro or the outro?

[Ed Gamble]

I don't know anymore. Anyway, enjoy the show. See you later. Bye. Bye.

[Radio X Announcer]

Ed Gamble and Matthew Crosby Brady O.

[Emily]

X.

[Ed Gamble]

Hello and welcome to the Ed Gamble and Matthew Crosby Radio show on Radio X. As many of you know because I mention it on the show all the time, every year I open the first day of the Bromley Greener and Cleaner charity Christmas Fair. I do the Saturday, the Sunday is opened by Paul Ready, who plays Kevin on Motherland.

[Vin (Producer)]

Oh, I like him.

[Matthew Crosby]

He's funny.

[Ed Gamble]

Everyone likes him.

[Matthew Crosby]

Everybody's genuinely funny.

[Ed Gamble]

He's great. He's fantastic. Anyway, last year the crowd. Last year, the crowd on the Saturday comprised of my wife and father. Can't stress enough. Two different people. Cannot stress that enough. Two people. Well, this year we smashed that record into smithereens. Unfortunately, the numbers went in the wrong direction. Nobody showed up to see me opening the fair. Not one listener made the trip. Despite my lengthy on air appeal, loads of people came to the fair eventually. Loads of jam was sold. Lots of money was raised for a fantastic local charity. But at 11am I had to cut a ribbon staring out across an empty shopping center. I bet that didn't happen to Paul Ready, who plays Kevin on Motherland. Even my dad didn't show up this year. I told him I was gonna throw him under the bus this week and tell the nation he'd forgotten to come and support his eldest son, the Sultan. The Sultan indeed. Yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

This isn't an intro.

[Ed Gamble]

This is an intro.

[Matthew Crosby]

It's not. You're wasting. You're wasting a whole link.

[Ed Gamble]

Am I burning material? Do you think I'm burning materials?

[Matthew Crosby]

Pretend to be a pirate or something.

[Ed Gamble]

All right.

[Vin (Producer)]

Okay, here we go.

[Ed Gamble]

I'll tell you the rest of the story in just a bit. Ah, me hearted. We be sailing on the good ship Radio X.

[Vin (Producer)]

This is better.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah. And, oh, I can see something off. It's not in the far distance, it's not in the near distance. It's somewhere in the middle.

[Matthew Crosby]

Stunning.

[Radio X Announcer]

Radio X. This is Radio X. Ed Gamble and Matthew Crosby.

[Matthew Crosby]

Now, Matthew, sorry to stop you in your tracks.

[Ed Gamble]

No, it's fine, it's fine. I don't mind.

[Matthew Crosby]

That is a classic story that we should be doing in the main body of the show. The intro is just. We do a little themed thing. Yeah, we do a silly thing. I don't want you using golden anecdotes in the intro, crucially, because in the intro I just let you do it. I don't feel like I can interject and add my angles to this.

[Ed Gamble]

You don't want to leap in. Well, listen, that's part of the reason why. I just want to get it out.

[Matthew Crosby]

The way you wanted to do it and not give me the right of reply. But obviously I want to discuss the fact you opened a Christmas fair. Absolutely nobody turned up.

[Ed Gamble]

We have worked together for too long, Ed. Yeah, that is exactly what I wanted. I thought, we'll just draw a line that has to be addressed, but we'll draw a line under it.

[Matthew Crosby]

But yes, the line is not drawn.

[Ed Gamble]

The line is not drawn. Basically, what normally happens is I stand there with my back to the Christmas fair, cutting the ribbon so all the crowds can walk in. Now, there's usually a lot of people.

[Matthew Crosby]

But it's normally, I imagine. Why didn't you stand looking at them? Cause you've been asked to open it.

[Ed Gamble]

No, no, no.

[Matthew Crosby]

The people who I'm show your face.

[Ed Gamble]

Card, the people who I've got my back to are the volunteers who already set up the Christmas fair. I'm not opening it for them. I'm opening it to the public. The front facing public, of which there was zero people, the front facing public are looking at me and they're watching me cut the ribbon and then they're going in and they're buying jam flooding in. What we want is it to feel like, you know, the footage of the Black Friday sales, when people are like knocking down the door of Primark and that kind of stuff. People are Fighting. Fighting over jars of jam like they're LED TVs.

[Matthew Crosby]

Small, small point of order. Just want to chip in with this quickly. I've just been in Norway. Oh, yeah. And instead of having Black Friday, they do it all week and it's called Black Week.

[Ed Gamble]

Black Week.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Okay.

[Matthew Crosby]

Felt uncomfortable.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

Anyway, carry on with your story.

[Ed Gamble]

Thank you very much. Yeah, nice to. Nice. I already feel uncomfortable revealing that I've got absolutely no standing on the show biz ladder. Let's make this story even more uncomfortable. But, yes, yes, indeed, that's that. That was what happened. So I assumed there'd be like a little crowd. Right. Because I talked about it on air. Right. I talked about it. I'd started the show two weeks ago saying, please be there. You know, here's the date, here's the time. I'm going to be cutting the ribbon. I looked around. Absolutely no one was there. My wife couldn't come because she was taking my other daughter to a kid's party.

[Matthew Crosby]

She's got family things that got on with. Massage her ego by showing up at the Christmas market.

[Ed Gamble]

And you know why my dad was there last year? It wasn't because he wanted to support me. It's because the Sultan was singing in his choir around the corner and they had a huge crowd.

[Matthew Crosby]

Of course they did, because it's singing in a choir. They had a skill.

[Ed Gamble]

They had an enormous. Listen, I'm good with a pair of scissors. I really am. But no Little Jerry sent came along. She cut the ribbon with me. So she cut it.

[Matthew Crosby]

Well, that's very sweet.

[Ed Gamble]

So that was very, very sweet. So I made it seem more like it was just me on a day out with my daughter.

[Vin (Producer)]

Did she say any words as she cut the ribbon?

[Ed Gamble]

She did say, hello, Beckenham. She's got a lot of catchphrases. She's like, do you want to see a ribbon cut? I can't hear you. She's got the catchphrases. She's given the people what they want.

[Matthew Crosby]

Was she aware of the fact that you were disappointed that no one had shown up?

[Ed Gamble]

No, I didn't make that clear to anybody until, you know. And if you look at my Instagram, you can see a lovely photo I posted on my Instagram. That doesn't look like there's no one there because all the volunteers have stood behind me. But if you saw reverse image of that.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, my God.

[Vin (Producer)]

It's like Trump's inauguration.

[Ed Gamble]

It really was. It really was. And this is.

[Sakisa]

This is the thing.

[Ed Gamble]

It's Like, I can't believe that I've been six years doing this show, right. Every. Every Sunday morning, 8 till 11, doing this show. I've got less famous from doing more work.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

I was actually. I had a better standing.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Than I did before I started this.

[Matthew Crosby]

What's happened now? I think I've given less people showing up for Christmas.

[Ed Gamble]

I've given too much of myself. People have got too much of an unders. The problem is, I think people would come along to it and they think if I even so much as, like, look, Crosby's direction, that'll be. I'll be talking to him the whole time. He'll want to talk to me.

[Matthew Crosby]

If you're the one person there.

[Ed Gamble]

If you're the one person.

[Matthew Crosby]

So this chap who's. Why was he opening it the next day?

[Ed Gamble]

Because each day is a separate entity in itself. They have to make it that way because no one shows up on the Saturday because I'm there.

[Matthew Crosby]

I love that. We'll let Matthew open it on the Saturday. And normally when you open something, it's then just open. But we're gonna have to reopen it.

[Ed Gamble]

He didn't open it well enough.

[Radio X Announcer]

No mask, you crobly. And Radio Ed.

[Ed Gamble]

Radio X. I don't know. Gorillaz here on Radio X. God, they're all having a laugh, having a great time. Yeah, I'd love to be David. It's not a day doesn't go by when I think he's absolutely cracked life. Alban, do you reckon he works pretty hard?

[Vin (Producer)]

He's constantly working.

[Ed Gamble]

I love work as well. You know me, I love work. I absolutely adore working. He, you know, he loves his time in the studio. He gets to meet all these amazing artists and collaborate with them. He made the Good, the Bad and the Queen. What's not to love about this?

[Emily]

He's.

[Matthew Crosby]

It sounds like your life, though, Matthew.

[Vin (Producer)]

That's the funny thing.

[Matthew Crosby]

You love your time in the studio.

[Ed Gamble]

I do love my time in the studio.

[Matthew Crosby]

You get to collaborate with some amazing people. Hello.

[Ed Gamble]

Absolutely. Vin's here. Yeah.

[Vin (Producer)]

The three of us are the Good, the Bad and the Queen.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, very, very true. I'll leave you.

[Margot]

Hello.

[Ed Gamble]

You are the poshest, aren't you?

[Matthew Crosby]

I'm the queen. Beautiful. Talking of the studio, because of the renovations that are going on here at Global. Yes. We're in the Capitol studio today.

[Ed Gamble]

I'm so excited.

[Matthew Crosby]

I feel so mainstream and fit.

[Ed Gamble]

Are we allowed to now play a Sabrina Carpenter? Can we play? Can we play Man Child Capital?

[Matthew Crosby]

Have some technology. That we absolutely don't have.

[Ed Gamble]

What have they got?

[Matthew Crosby]

They've got these three buttons here. Right. And I love this. So, I mean, I, I could really ruin the renovation work because there's a button here that says delay build.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, no, I think they're doing that fine.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

This is not going to get done in a year, is it? It's going to take forever. Well, this is life forever. It's going to be post apocalyptic in the global building forever.

[Vin (Producer)]

They've said, I think they said nine months. So you read a year for that straight away.

[Ed Gamble]

It's not gonna be a year.

[Vin (Producer)]

Maybe it's gonna be a year. We've got delay build in our studio though.

[Matthew Crosby]

No, we've got the same button, delay exit. That's if they want to keep a guest in for longer.

[Ed Gamble]

If I want to tell an anecdote, I always press delay exit.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah. And then of course the most important one, which I need on a regular basis on a Sunday morning. Delay dump.

[Ed Gamble]

Absolutely. Because sometimes you've had two very strong coffees before you even leave the house.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah. And we're still, you know, we don't have time to put Pearl Jam on or November Rain.

[Ed Gamble]

A really he song. Blue Monday. Pop on Blue Monday and let's have a brown table. Oh, of course.

[Matthew Crosby]

It sways so good, this show.

[Ed Gamble]

It's not a bad show, is it?

[Radio X Announcer]

Ed Gamble and Matthew Crosby on Radio X. We're a show that's the back of the sewing.

[Matthew Crosby]

Now, as we all know, if you're regular listeners, you'll know that Matthew has turned into the child catcher. And he runs around the global offices scooping up all the young people, putting them in his candy cage and asking them a series of questions about what it's like to be in the hope that he can suck some of their youth from their bones.

[Ed Gamble]

That's right. That's right. I'm sticking a little candy cane straw into their necks and sucking out all the adrenochrome. Yeah, that's my vibe. That's what I like to do.

[Matthew Crosby]

Always comes back to adrenochrome for Matthew Crosby.

[Ed Gamble]

I love it. I'm absolutely addicted to this stuff. Maybe for my New Year's resolution, I'll give it up. But not today. Yeah. So I chatted to some young people. We were talking about. We were talking about telly, we were talking about music and we were talking about trousers.

[Matthew Crosby]

Has this now moved on from the initial question which was do you WhatsApp in the club?

[Ed Gamble]

It's moved on from that. We've got that information and the answer is, no, they don't. But we wanted to ask them what they. What kind of. What they consider to be old TV shows, old music, that kind of thing. So let's have a listen. Who are we speaking to first?

[Vin (Producer)]

This is Jay.

[Ed Gamble]

This is Jay. Wonderful. So, Jay, how old are you?

[Jay]

I'm 23 years old.

[Ed Gamble]

Jay, do you ever watch old TV shows?

[Jay]

All the time. I'm the biggest EastEnders fan in the world.

[Ed Gamble]

You watch classic episodes of EastEnders. You're going back to the sort of the Mitchell brothers era.

[Jay]

Oh, yeah. I've seen all of Grant's era before. Like when he was properly on the show. Like, yeah, I loved it.

[Ed Gamble]

Why don't I give you some old TV shows and you can tell me if you've seen them and if you haven't seen them, what you think they're about.

[Chris]

Okay?

[Ed Gamble]

Okay. All right, Jay, Only Fools and Horses. Have you seen it? If not, what do you think it's about? I think I have seen it, but.

[Jay]

I actually can't remember. I want to say that the theme songs, like, has shots of cars. Am I wrong? I don't know. I imagine it's sort of around like a American town.

[Ed Gamble]

What are the characters up to in this American town?

[Jay]

They're just like, all very, like, country and western and they're sort of, you know, exploring their town and things always go wrong. Sort of like a soap opera.

[Ed Gamble]

Okay. I think you've heard the word horses and you thought, well, it's gotta be about horses. Would it shock you to learn there are no horses in it?

[Jay]

Yes, but also no. Cause I'm thinking like big American muscle cars for some reason.

[Ed Gamble]

Would it shock you to learn it's not set in America, it's set in Peckham?

[Jay]

That is shocking. Yes.

[Ed Gamble]

I've just blown your mind there. He's got a lot of enthusiasm for life, Jay.

[Matthew Crosby]

Like Jay.

[Ed Gamble]

I had a great time chatting to him.

[Matthew Crosby]

I tell you what, I don't think this is a scientific survey with Jay, because Jay, to me, sounds like he's got his own individual personality.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, young people do these days.

[Matthew Crosby]

No, no, no, no, no. They're all. It's. It's very homogenous what young people are.

[Ed Gamble]

This is the thing I've realized. No, I thought the same thing as you before I started speaking.

[Matthew Crosby]

You survey 20 Gen Zs. They're not all going to go, yeah, we all watch old episodes of EastEnders.

[Ed Gamble]

No, no, no, but that's, that's. They're going to give you 20 different answers. And that found. And we're going to do 20 of them today. I loved chatting. And he was saying, he's gone all the way back to the Dirty Den era. I love it. He's gone all the way back.

[Matthew Crosby]

Fantastic. Just enthusiastic about that. Really went for it with the Only Fools and Horses theory.

[Ed Gamble]

No idea. But happy to give it a go in America.

[Matthew Crosby]

And big muscle cars. It's set in Peckham and it's a.

[Radio X Announcer]

Robin Rely Ed Gamble and Mother Matthew.

[Ed Gamble]

Radio X. I was talking to Jay. He's 23 years young, he's a wonderful lad and he has. He's worked his way back through all of the episodes of EastEnders that have done on the telly. I don't know how he's found the time in 23 years. Yeah, but he. We were also talking about what he thought the show Only Fools and Horses was about. He's already said he thought it was in an American town and he thought it was something to do with muscle.

[Matthew Crosby]

Cars and exploring the town.

[Ed Gamble]

Exploring the town and having adventures and country and western. Yeah, exactly. Let's hear a bit more from Jay. What about the show get your own Back? Do you. Have you ever heard of that show? What do you think it's about?

[Jay]

No, I have no idea. I imagine it's sort of like a. Would I lie to you? But like, with couples. So, like, you have to. You have like a couple come on stage, the presenter has like previously interviewed one of them and they're trying to get their own back. Or like, you know how some couples have like a personal item and the other couple, the person in the couple hates it and it's like, you know, you can try and destroy that or something like that.

[Ed Gamble]

By the way, this is. That's not what the show is, but this is a good format. It's kind of got a bit of the Mr. And Mrs. You know, when you bring on celebrity, all star Mr. And Mrs. But they can destroy a much beloved family heirloom. This is a good format. Jay, hang on to this. I'm not going to nick this one off. You hang on to that one. Have you ever heard. Now it's coming back to the screens. But it was. It was on in the sort of late 80s, early 90s. Have you ever heard of the TV show? You bet.

[Jay]

No, I thought you were going to say Scrubs and I was about to get really excited because I know that one.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, I love. Do you like the theme tune to Scrubs?

[Jay]

I can't tell you the theme tune.

[Ed Gamble]

I can do this all on my own yeah, I know I'm no Superman yeah, I do know that.

[Jay]

I should have known that.

[Ed Gamble]

Of course you should have known that. There we go. Any of you would have been gutted.

[Matthew Crosby]

If he'd known that, because you had it all queued up.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, I wanted to sing it to him.

[Matthew Crosby]

I don't want to sing with you. I did not know my favorite thing was gonna be listening to recordings of you singing while you're embarrassed that you're doing it. That is so funny, because the problem.

[Ed Gamble]

Is I didn't think about that. I just started singing it. There's no. There's no. Shall I sing this to. Should I sing the Scrubs theme to a 23 year old? Didn't think about it. Just started singing it. But hearing yourself back when you didn't.

[Matthew Crosby]

You say you didn't think about it. You did something similar last week.

[Ed Gamble]

I've got a real. I've got a pathological desire to sing to young people.

[Matthew Crosby]

By the way, great TV development strategy. Give people titles of other shows that they don't know. What would it be and what would it be? And then you've got a new idea.

[Ed Gamble]

That's great. Yeah, that's really. If only the industry wasn't dying.

[Radio X Announcer]

Radio X, Ed Gamble and Matthew Crosby.

[Ed Gamble]

Still chatting away to young people, going round the global offices, speaking to young people, finding out what makes them tick.

[Matthew Crosby]

It's sort of the opposite of. Do you follow that Instagram account where they ask people, old people questions in old people's homes? Oh, no, it's great.

[Ed Gamble]

I should be on it.

[Matthew Crosby]

It's called something like Old Friends Club or something like that. It's very, very good.

[Ed Gamble]

That's great.

[Matthew Crosby]

I really like it. But it's the opposite of that, basically, it's you leaving the old people's home and asking young people questions.

[Ed Gamble]

Asking young people if they remember Only Fools and Horses, which of course they don't. Let's have a chat. Well, this was Margot and I had a really, really great time chatting to Margot again. You know what? Young people, they've got a great spirit. Margot really does have a wonderful spirit. So this is Margot and me chatting. Margot, how old are you?

[Margot]

I am 23 years old.

[Ed Gamble]

What kind of music do you listen to Margot, ordinarily?

[Margot]

Calvin Harris.

[Ed Gamble]

He's still kicking around.

[Margot]

I'm loving Sabrina Carpenter.

[Ed Gamble]

We're all loving Sabrina Carpenter.

[Margot]

Gracie Abrams, Olivia Dean. I think she's great. I'm seeing her next year.

[Ed Gamble]

Are you going to a concert of hers?

[Margot]

Yes. Wembley. Wembley next year. Can't wait.

[Ed Gamble]

So if you were gonna listen to some old music.

[Margot]

Yes.

[Ed Gamble]

What kind of old music would you listen to?

[Margot]

I have the perfect answer for this. I love my old dance music, like Fat Boy Slim Vibes, that sort of thing. But my mum massively into Jamiroquai.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh my God. Who doesn't love Jamiroquai? What's your top Jamiroquai song?

[Margot]

Oh, gosh. Summer Girl maybe.

[Ed Gamble]

Summer Girl.

[Margot]

Do do do Pass My Window. Oh, that's Summer Girl, that one Space.

[Ed Gamble]

Cowboy I love Cos love Cosmic Girl.

[Margot]

Cosmic Girl's a great one.

[Sakisa]

If he.

[Ed Gamble]

If JK is writing about a specific girl, you're on for a good time, aren't you?

[Margot]

So true, so true.

[Matthew Crosby]

Well, what a reversal method.

[Ed Gamble]

I know.

[Matthew Crosby]

She sang to me as soon as Jamiroquai came up. I was like. I was looking at you going, no, please, please, no, please, no, no.

[Ed Gamble]

That's why I think, that's why I like Margot. She was ready to sing at the drop of a hat. And it won. What a hat. Huge hat. Absolutely enormous hat that was dropped there.

[Vin (Producer)]

She did name a Jamaican Jiroquai song that came out seven years ago. So.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Vin (Producer)]

So quite a new Jamiroquoi.

[Matthew Crosby]

I do not know.

[Ed Gamble]

I don't know that song, to be honest. I couldn't have sung you San Miguel if I had a gun to my head.

[Matthew Crosby]

Not on Traveling Without Moving. I ain't interested.

[Ed Gamble]

No way. Because of course you went and saw Jamiroquai.

[Matthew Crosby]

Brixton Academy.

[Ed Gamble]

Brixton Academy. Many, many moons ago. You should have been there. Marco would have loved to chat to you.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, yeah. About history, about the Battle of Hastings.

[Ed Gamble]

But who doesn't love Jamiroquai? And it's great to know that the kids are still loving EastEnders. They're still loving Jamiroquai. It's like time hasn't moved on. What a wonderful thing to Radio X.

[Radio X Announcer]

Dead Boy and soupy ghost.

[Ed Gamble]

She's a star, James. She's a star. Here on Radio X, it's Ed Gamble, it's Matthew Crosby and we're delighted to be joined by the first and only guest of the show.

[Matthew Crosby]

She's a star.

[Ed Gamble]

She is a true star. It's the wonderful stand up comedian Sakisa. Hello, Sakisa, how are you doing?

[Sakisa]

I am tired. It is too early for this.

[Ed Gamble]

That's okay. Listen, listen. We'll get through it. We'll get through it together. If at any point you feel like you need a nap, just fall asleep immediately. Just like you've got narcolepsy Just go for it.

[Sakisa]

That's perfectly fine.

[Matthew Crosby]

I'll give you a tip. If you feel like you don't want to talk or you want Matthew to do some more talking, just ask him about Steely Dan. Just say, what's your favorite Steely Dan album?

[Ed Gamble]

And then we put me under pressure.

[Matthew Crosby]

20 to 25 minutes of drone coming out of his God.

[Ed Gamble]

So, Sikhita, apart from the tiredness, you've got a new special coming out, brand new special coming out, which you're launching on the 21st of December on Turtle Canyon comedy, our dear friend, Stu Lorz. Yay. Turtle Canyon comedy. Yes. And that's gonna be on YouTube. Is it a Christmasy themed show or are you.

[Matthew Crosby]

Well, life of the party. Come on. The Christmas party, of course, is a huge part of everyone's lives.

[Sakisa]

Yes, it is, but the show is definitely not a part. It does have the decoration. It does have some, like, confetti in it, but there's definitely not no Christmas themes in it. It's mostly just talking about how much I enj parties and how everyone should just have a best life that they can. That's what I feel like. That's what I really wanted to do with this show, is just, like, combine my two solo shows together that I did in Edinburgh Fringe in 2022 and 2023 and just have a party.

[Ed Gamble]

What's your favorite kind of party? If you had to come up with a party, what was your favorite one?

[Sakisa]

Ed knows this. It's a house party.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, it's a house party. We're not talking about the app that almost made it during lockdown. No, we're talking. We're talking about an actual. And what. What room. Room of the house party would we find Sakisa in?

[Sakisa]

In the kitchen.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, of course.

[Sakisa]

Where all the food is. Where all the food is.

[Matthew Crosby]

Well, Sakisa's got quite specific rules for house parties, though, so, you know, there has to be quite a lot of food at these house parties. You've been some awful house parties in the past, I take it.

[Sakisa]

I've had some experiences where people have been like, oh, you don't need to eat. It's perfectly fine. There's gonna be food at the house party. And I've turned up and it's cheese and pineapple and sticks. It's quiche.

[Matthew Crosby]

Gross.

[Sakisa]

It's cold sausage rolls.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Sakisa]

Why are we doing that? I've had to order several things to a house party before. KFC's been arriving. Domino's has arrived at a house party. I'VE even ordered noodles to a house party before. Let there be food.

[Ed Gamble]

Can I just say, is there any truth to the rumour that you show up to most parties on a Deliveroo bike?

[Sakisa]

If anything, I'm having an affair with all the Deliveroo bikes.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah. I do understand that. Of, like, if someone says there's food, you want something substantial.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

But I think it's. I respect you for it. I think it's a bold move to go to someone else's house party and then order food. Because what you are saying to them is you've not planned this party well enough.

[Sakisa]

That's what I'm saying to them.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, exactly what I'm saying to them.

[Sakisa]

Because if anything, if you know me well enough, if you've invited me to your house party, you should know better. There should be food because otherwise I will judge you.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sakisa]

It's going to be food. It's got to be good music. It's going to be a vibe.

[Ed Gamble]

Do you ever take over after you've already ordered your KFC and are you ever taking over the. The stereo and playing your own songs?

[Sakisa]

I feel like if people do, you just move in.

[Matthew Crosby]

You may as well move in because you're ordering food, you're taking over the music. You've said there should be a vibe. The vibe is frosty.

[Sakisa]

I think vibe is never flossy when I ride. No. I feel like if people are putting on good music and there's a vibe, I'm more than happy for them to continue that.

[Ed Gamble]

But.

[Sakisa]

But if there's no dancing, if people are like, not, like having a good time, if it's a Saturday, Friday night, it's like 12 o' clock at night and everyone's just in the corner just talking to themselves. No, that's not the one. Everyone should be having fun.

[Ed Gamble]

You open up your delivery bag, you take decks out of it.

[Sakisa]

I bring everything.

[Ed Gamble]

You bring everything to the party. So you bring everything you need to a party. You're wearing a sash saying, actually, it's my party.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Sakisa]

I'll tell you what, I just won't take over the party. I just feel like you pay the council checks. Yeah. I'm just a good addition to the party. I think if it's me invited to a party, then you know it's going to be a good time and I think that's how I am with everything.

[Ed Gamble]

Do you think people who invite you to a party get a bit complacent and go, well, let's not bother about food, Sakisa's. Coming.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, maybe that's true.

[Ed Gamble]

She'll bring her own grub.

[Matthew Crosby]

Tell Sakisa there's food, she'll turn up. There'll be 10 or 15 minutes where she's really angry. But then the food's going to arrive and then we've got a party.

[Sakisa]

But I'll tell you what, I don't even tell them that angry.

[Ed Gamble]

It just.

[Sakisa]

I'm just. I'm still having a good time. It's just that there'll be no knock on the door.

[Radio X Announcer]

Scoop Daddy and Goujon Mustard Radio X.

[Matthew Crosby]

The brilliant comedian Sakisa whose new special Life of the Party is out on YouTube. 21st of December. Search Turtle Canyon Comedy Sakisa. All of those good things. And you will be able to watch the special maybe on Christmas Day?

[Ed Gamble]

Absolutely.

[Sakisa]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Once the food's run out on Christmas Day. Cause you didn't order enough. Go upstairs and watch Sakisa's YouTube special. We gotta ask you a few questions. Questions though. Now obviously you've talked about house parties. Sakisa, are you ever in the club?

[Sakisa]

The club?

[Matthew Crosby]

We. We are old men.

[Ed Gamble]

We're too old.

[Matthew Crosby]

So we've been. Matthew's recently been doing some investigations into the young.

[Ed Gamble]

Sounds worse when you say it like that. I've been chatting to young people to find out what young people are up to.

[Sakisa]

Again, that sounds really wrong.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, you know what? It's just. There's no good way of saying it.

[Matthew Crosby]

But it sounds crazy creepy. But it's not is what I say.

[Ed Gamble]

Okay, but I. I heard a rumor that young people were whatsapping in the club. If it was too loud to talk to each other, they would WhatsApp to each other. Have you ever experienced young people whatsapping the club?

[Sakisa]

No. Because who goes to the club now? Where is their club even existing anymore? Clubs don't exist anymore.

[Matthew Crosby]

Well, this is huge.

[Ed Gamble]

There never was a club.

[Matthew Crosby]

This is it. No, there was a club.

[Sakisa]

There was a club. Clubs don't exist anymore. It's all about buzz.

[Ed Gamble]

Bars, bars.

[Sakisa]

Bars that turn into after parties.

[Matthew Crosby]

Right.

[Sakisa]

Or if you've got an event that turns into an after party or it's concerts or it's just festivals now. There's no clubs anymore. Like I remember being able to go out, park my car somewhere.

[Matthew Crosby]

What?

[Sakisa]

And yeah, I used to get there. It used to be like women used to get in free before 10 o'.

[Emily]

Clock.

[Sakisa]

Okay, so you get there like 9:30, park the car, make sure you got a parking space. I had to wear heels because you wouldn't allowed in without no shoes, no heels, stuff like that.

[Jay]

Okay.

[Sakisa]

Proper dressed up, go to the club, have a really good time until like 2 o' clock in the morning. You can't do that anymore because everything now is a bar. Everyone's wearing trainers.

[Ed Gamble]

Disgusting.

[Sakisa]

Ridiculous. Why we do. Why are we doing that? Ridiculous. Everyone's just wearing jeans. Why are you not dressing up? Why are you. I was in a hotel and I saw this young like 19 year old couple and they were going out and they were dressed to the nines from head to like knees but on their feet. Trainers.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Sakisa]

Why would you do that?

[Matthew Crosby]

Ruining comfort.

[Sakisa]

No, no, no. They should not have comfort.

[Ed Gamble]

If you're going, if you're going out.

[Matthew Crosby]

That's not what it's about. Here's a phenomenon I've noticed when I tour the uk, when I stay in, you know, you know, pretty nice hotels, I'd say, but hotels that are like clearly on a weekend, there's like couples there for a special occasion and they're off out, they're off out for dinner, they're off out to a bar or something. The, the lady, this is in straight couples. The lady will be dressed incre. She will have put so much effort in head to toe heels and everything. And I will see them in the lift and then the man will be in tracksuit trousers.

[Sakisa]

Yeah. I don't understand the phenomenon. I don't know where this comes from. The men, men talk to me. What's happening? What's going on?

[Matthew Crosby]

It's an absolute disgrace. Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Just imagining like the wedding day.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Where you know, she's coming up the aisle. She looks absolutely incredible. Everyone's crying because of how beautiful she looks. She clocks her man. Tracksuit trousers, tracky bum thinks, there he is, there he is, there he is. That's my future.

[Sakisa]

Imagine married at first sight and he's just come down, out in tracksuits, tracky bums. You'll be like, no, let's just switch this around, get me someone new. Ridiculous. No, there's no clubs anymore. Everything's just now a bar.

[Ed Gamble]

Does WhatsApp still exist? Please tell me that.

[Sakisa]

Yeah, OK. WhatsApp.

[Radio X Announcer]

Radio X, Matthew Crosby.

[Ed Gamble]

And Edward so Sakisa, we'd like to ask you because I'm presuming it was not just produced but directed by Stuart Laws as well. Yes, the brilliant Stuart Laws directed your Special out on the 21st of December. Now Stuart Law has actually created this question for us. What is the biggest pig you can imagine? It's a classic student. Now question But Sakisa and he didn't. It's not just for you. Loads of people have answered this question, but Sakisa, what's the biggest pig you can imagine?

[Sakisa]

Well, I've actually seen a massive pig.

[Ed Gamble]

Okay, all right. Okay. That's the biggest pig you can see.

[Matthew Crosby]

Come here to show off.

[Sakisa]

Yeah, exactly. It was a problem about. It's probably about like 3 meters wide.

[Ed Gamble]

3 meters wide?

[Matthew Crosby]

Have you seen a pig that's 3 meters?

[Ed Gamble]

Firstly, can I just say one thing? You're holding your arms. Your arms aren't three meters wide.

[Sakisa]

I can't spread that wide.

[Ed Gamble]

You're not Christ the redeemer.

[Matthew Crosby]

All right.

[Ed Gamble]

The angel of the north. 3.

[Matthew Crosby]

3 meters long.

[Sakisa]

3 meters long.

[Matthew Crosby]

3 meters Long.

[Sakisa]

And it was quite a fat pig.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, it's got to be. If it's a fat pig. If it's a thin pig and it's 3 meters long. Going to look weird.

[Sakisa]

Yeah, yeah, it's a fat pig.

[Matthew Crosby]

It's going to look like a snake.

[Sakisa]

This was in Barbados. My granddad's best friend used to grow pigs.

[Ed Gamble]

So you went. You went to a pig vineyard and you got to harvest your own pigs. It was a pick your own pigs field.

[Matthew Crosby]

Where does the root come from? Pick your own pigs is great.

[Ed Gamble]

Pick your own pig. So you were picking your own pigs and you started pulling and you thought, this one goes on for ages. It was like the. It was like the ginormous turnip and it was three. So you think it's three meters long?

[Sakisa]

I think it's massive.

[Ed Gamble]

Okay, so could you picture a pig that was slightly bigger than the biggest pig you've ever seen?

[Sakisa]

I can probably like 8 meters.

[Ed Gamble]

You've had it. 5 odds.

[Matthew Crosby]

It's a great answer, but there it stopped.

[Ed Gamble]

It's got a nine.

[Matthew Crosby]

No.

[Ed Gamble]

No way. Life of the party is the name of the special is out on the 21st of December on Turtle Canyon. Comedy. Just search for it on YouTube. Sakisa, it was an absolute joy having you on the show.

[Sakisa]

Thank you for having me.

[Ed Gamble]

Have an absolutely fantastic Sunday.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yay. Thanks, Sakis.

[Sakisa]

Bye.

[Radio X Announcer]

Radio X Ed Gamble and Matthew Crosby.

[Margot]

Ah.

[Matthew Crosby]

Oh. Oh. Lovely morning in Norway where I've just been. Oh, yeah, yeah. Discovered this new band.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, no.

[Matthew Crosby]

Quite excited to play them. I'll tell you more about them a little bit later on in the show, I think, but I think we'll just hear them first. It's rare on the metal alarm call that I get to play a.

[Ed Gamble]

Okay. All right, all right. You're playing the whole song now.

[Matthew Crosby]

I Think. I checked with Vin and he said I can't say the name of the band, unfortunately, so it's not a good plug.

[Vin (Producer)]

It's about bums.

[Matthew Crosby]

It's about bums. Okay.

[Ed Gamble]

Is it the bum band?

[Matthew Crosby]

No. Can I say the name of the song, Vin?

[Vin (Producer)]

Yep. Don't elaborate.

[Matthew Crosby]

This is Mouse sneaking up her hole. So there we go. That was Mouse.

[Ed Gamble]

No, no, no. That was Mouse. No, no, no, no. With so many good ideas in a song, at least flesh it out to two minutes.

[Matthew Crosby]

Come on.

[Ed Gamble]

Don't hide your light under a bushel, lads. That could. Honestly, that. I feel like with a little bit of work, that could be a rock opera. Stretch it out. Learn something from the mouse.

[Matthew Crosby]

Hide your light under a bushel there's already a mouse in there, so stretch it out.

[Ed Gamble]

Ed Gamble and Matthew Crosby.

[Radio X Announcer]

This is the Radio X heyday, of course.

[Matthew Crosby]

I got to play a wonderful metal alarm call there Blit by a band that I can't name. Discovered them in Norway. Myself and my wife in Oslo went and made a bit of a pilgrimage to a record store that was originally called Helveta and is now called Nezblod. And it was the. If you're aware of the Norwegian black metal scene and the horrible murder. Church burning.

[Ed Gamble]

That's what I think of whenever I think of Norwegian black metal. I think of people going to prison because they were a vocalist. They thought, I'm not content with being a singer. I'd also like to burn down a church.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah. The lads like Euronymous and Dead and all of those people. Well, how.

[Ed Gamble]

He's dead, by the way.

[Matthew Crosby]

He is.

[Ed Gamble]

He's so. No, he lived up to his name.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yes. They all used to hang out in this record store and it's still a metal.

[Ed Gamble]

I thought, I'll go there.

[Matthew Crosby]

And we went there and you can go down to the basement where they used to hang out, and it's got black metal written on the doors and the walls and things.

[Ed Gamble]

I would. You know what? I'm gonna make it my life's ambition to take over that shop and turn it around.

[Matthew Crosby]

It was fantastic.

[Ed Gamble]

What was playing as you walked in. Was it horrible? Did it make bowels rumble?

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Is there a Lewis in there? Because people must be constantly needing the loo. I always need the lure.

[Matthew Crosby]

That's not the first thing I ask when I go in, but it was actually.

[Ed Gamble]

If there was a loo in there, I wouldn't want to go into it. I'd go in the Starbucks next.

[Matthew Crosby]

It's also. I could have Spent all day in there just because it was packed to the roof with stuff. So of course you could. So anyway, I. I thought I should need to buy a bit of a souvenir here.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes.

[Matthew Crosby]

My wife bought a record by a local band. She did that quite a lot on our little trip. She bought a lot of local records and then. And listen to what they sounded like on the Internet afterwards.

[Ed Gamble]

Of course. Yeah. But you know what? The physical copy, the fact you've bought it has put money in the band's pocket. It's very important.

[Matthew Crosby]

Well, I bought a tape.

[Ed Gamble]

A cassette.

[Matthew Crosby]

I bought a cassette. I thought that's quite a cool thing. Cause cassettes are the cool thing now. And. Yeah, I bought that band that I just played you. I bought a cassette.

[Ed Gamble]

The Bum Bum Band.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, the Bum Bum Band. The album's called Pus Blood Pentagram. So I bought that album on tape. It was from 1994.

[Ed Gamble]

Great time.

[Matthew Crosby]

Just chucked it on the counter with all my wife's stuff and we. We bought that. Then we went for a coffee afterwards. Then I thought, maybe let's look into the Norwegian kroner exchange rate.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes.

[Matthew Crosby]

Anyway, 40 quid I paid for that.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, no. Oh, no. Well, that's the problem with shopping on holiday. It's like Monopoly money, isn't it? Yeah, you've just got no idea.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, but don't do that in Norway.

[Ed Gamble]

Don't do that in Norway.

[Matthew Crosby]

Still got my tape player now.

[Ed Gamble]

Another 40 quid, isn't it?

[Radio X Announcer]

Ed Gamble and Back Fifen. Good, is it?

[Ed Gamble]

Radio X. I have indeed been chatting to the young. I've been wandering around the Global Building, which is. This is the building we work in, as opposed to what I call the world. I've been wandering around the Global Building. I've been chatting to young people about them.

[Matthew Crosby]

You're sort of like a local character at a bus stop, aren't you? Yeah, I am a little bit. Have you met old Matthew?

[Ed Gamble]

You've kind of chatted to Granddad Matthew. Yeah. Has he asked you about Only Fools and Horses? He will do that.

[Matthew Crosby]

He's harmless. Don't look in his carrier bag.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, just. It's full of cassettes of Steely Down. So I chatted now to Emily. This is my chat with Emily. She was another absolute ray of light, a total joy. This is Emily here on Radio X. Emily, how old are you?

[Emily]

I'm 26.

[Ed Gamble]

If I tell you the names of some TV shows, some old TV shows, will you tell me whether you've seen them and what you think they're about Only Fools and Horses. Have you seen that?

[Emily]

I've seen a few episodes. I think my dad's been watching them and I've sort of seen them in the background.

[Ed Gamble]

What do you think Only Fulton Horses is about?

[Emily]

I think it's about. There's a man that wears a flat cap and like a sheepskin kind of coat and he's like a dodgy wheeler dealer kind of guy.

[Ed Gamble]

You've nailed it. That's exactly what the show's about. We're gonna go a little bit deeper then. Have you ever seen Goodnight Sweetheart?

[Emily]

I've never heard of that in my life.

[Ed Gamble]

It's one of the characters. Well, it's not one of the characters. One of the. It's not one of the characters. It's not a spin off of the show. It's one of the actors from Only Fools and Horses. Nicholas Lydia, what do you think the show Goodnight Sweetheart might be about?

[Emily]

Maybe a lady that's feeling quite tired and she just wants to get to bed after a stressful day at work.

[Ed Gamble]

I can tell you now that Goodnight Sweetheart was about a man who found a portal down a road where he lived to take him back in time and he used that to have an affair.

[Emily]

Oh, that's not very nice.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, she's bang on. It's not very nice.

[Ed Gamble]

It's not very nice. The more you think about it, the worse it is.

[Matthew Crosby]

And we were all behind Gary Sparrow at the time, weren't we?

[Ed Gamble]

We were rooting for Sparrow, of course, we were back in the day. But the 90s were a different time.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, I knew that was going to blow her mind because, I mean, look, I. I wouldn't necessarily watch a show about a woman who's quite tired and she just wants to go to bed after a hard day.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, I don't necessarily think that. Do you know our idea of giving young people the names of TV shows coming up with new formats off the back of it? I don't think we've found our succession. No, I don't think we found our flea back. I don't think we found the next Goodnight Sweetheart exactly. No, but I mean. Yeah. Would you watch a show about woman who's tired?

[Matthew Crosby]

No.

[Ed Gamble]

No, you don't want that sort of.

[Matthew Crosby]

Was fleabag, I guess.

[Ed Gamble]

I guess. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

There was other elements too.

[Ed Gamble]

There were other elements.

[Matthew Crosby]

Don't tell us to wrap up. We're having a great.

[Ed Gamble]

No, I think we want to hear the next bit of. Listen, we've got to make. Make way For Emily. Yeah, a bit more of a chat with Emily right here. Do you know of the show? You Bet?

[Emily]

Oh, I think I have heard of that. I think they were making. I think it was kind of like Japanese game show style. And did you have to bet at home? Home.

[Ed Gamble]

That's Banzai. You're describing the show Banzai. Yeah, yeah. Which was also a brilliant show in the 90s.

[Emily]

Yeah, yeah. No, that's where I'm getting confused with. I have no idea what you bet is.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, you Bet was a show where a panel of celebrities and the members of the public would say, I reckon I can do this mad stunt, right? I reckon I can reverse a. A truck and use it to open a beer bottle. And the celebrities would go, I think they can do it. I don't think they can do it. I think they can do it. And they would win. Win prizes that way.

[Emily]

I can't really believe people would watch that. That's great. Crazy.

[Ed Gamble]

Well, this is even crazier. It's coming back to tv.

[Emily]

I probably won't be tuning in. You could just get AI to do something like that now, couldn't you?

[Ed Gamble]

Well, I despair of your generation. I really, really do. Emily, it's been lovely chatting to you. Final question, should I get bigger trousers?

[Emily]

Yeah, definitely. Mine are quite big. We could fit probably four people in my. Just one leg of my jeans.

[Ed Gamble]

So you think I should get the sort of trousers that I could bring three friends along with?

[Emily]

Definitely. See, that sounds fun.

[Matthew Crosby]

Slander. You bet. Slander.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. I will not be watching.

[Matthew Crosby]

I won't be watching that.

[Ed Gamble]

Mulhern's hosting this series.

[Matthew Crosby]

This. This from the person who came up with. A lady's quite tired.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. She'd watch a what? What Emily wants to watch is a quite tired lady who's been generated by AI and I'm so sorry. You know what? I. We had two. You know, Emily was absolutely lovely, but she's. She's. She's absolutely. She's gone in deep on AI. That's the problem is it's enticing AI, but you. You've got to fear it. Young people.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah. You can never come up with, good night, sweetheart.

[Ed Gamble]

No, I.

[Matthew Crosby]

Why would it.

[Ed Gamble]

Why would it want to? It was. It was great chatting to young people and I hope to do it again very soon, but apparently I'm not allowed at the moment because there's been an official email.

[Matthew Crosby]

He's had his pass taken away.

[Ed Gamble]

He's taken my pass away. He keeps coming on days when he's not working. And trying to talk to 23 year olds. He's got to stop.

[Radio X Announcer]

Ed Gamble and Matthew Crosby, Radio X. We have the thickest listeners in radio.

[Ed Gamble]

My dad didn't show up, basically, to.

[Matthew Crosby]

You opening the Christmas market.

[Ed Gamble]

To me opening the Christmas market. And you know what? No one did. We can't blame my dad. So I just assumed he'd forgotten. So I said to him, I saw him this week. I said, I'm just gonna tell him, I'll throw you on the bus a little bit. I'm gonna say that you say that you forgot. And he went, I didn't forget, I just couldn't be bothered. And then, you know, we had a long conversation about how much he likes Paul Ready. He's like. I say, I do like it.

[Matthew Crosby]

He went on the Sunday, he's like.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, the Sunday was good. Sunday was good. Paul Ready was there.

[Matthew Crosby]

Paul Ready is great.

[Ed Gamble]

Paul Ready is. Listen. Paul Ready is fantastic. Fantastic. Paul Ready is not on trial. Despite being my nemesis. I think he's wonderful.

[Vin (Producer)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, he's in Amanda Land as well.

[Ed Gamble]

He's in Amanda Land. He's in Motherland. He does some wonderful theater work. He's married to the artistic director of the Globe, where my dad works. So, you know, they're all thick as thieves in there. They're all thick as thieves.

[Radio X Announcer]

Crunch and crumble. This is Radio X.

[Ed Gamble]

You can equalize Lover.

[Radio X Announcer]

Ed Gamble and Matthew Crosby.

[Ed Gamble]

Radio X.

[Radio X Announcer]

Lover.

[Ed Gamble]

Lover.

[Matthew Crosby]

Talking of the young, Matthew.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes.

[Matthew Crosby]

You've been chatting to them again.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes, indeed.

[Matthew Crosby]

Because they've let you in, they've let you into the building to talk to the young.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes, I love it. I really do. I love chatting to young people. I love finding out what they're all about. So far we've talked about only Fools and Horses and Goodnight Sweetheart and a little bit about. You bet.

[Matthew Crosby]

Do you think that maybe the young people. Now it's gone around that you're. You're wanting to chat to them and.

[Ed Gamble]

They'Re all excited about it?

[Matthew Crosby]

No, I think they're worried.

[Ed Gamble]

Quite the opposite.

[Matthew Crosby]

He means well, but no, I think he smells of eggs and his coat's always wet.

[Vin (Producer)]

To be honest, I. I think it's a bit harder trying to find people. The more we do this. And actually Emily, who we're going to hear from, she was asked to do this by her boss.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, that was.

[Vin (Producer)]

She didn't volunteer.

[Ed Gamble]

That was what I was doing. I was going up to the older people, people my age, and saying, who are you young people? Who are the young People on this floor. Get. Bring them to me into a little small room.

[Matthew Crosby]

I know it's not creepy, but it just really sounds.

[Ed Gamble]

It does. When. You know. Anyway, listen, let's not worry about whether or not it sounds creepy. Let's hear it. Let's hear it. Let's hear my chat with Emily. It's the second part of my chat with Emily. Emily, do you ever watch old tv?

[Emily]

What do you mean? Like black and white films or.

[Ed Gamble]

Well, I mean. Yeah. Do you ever watch black and white films?

[Emily]

No, never.

[Ed Gamble]

What's the oldest TV show you think you've. You've watched?

[Emily]

Maybe the U.S. office and. And Desperate Housewives as well, actually. I really like that.

[Ed Gamble]

So these are. These are old TV shows to you?

[Sakisa]

Yes.

[Matthew Crosby]

I don't think I'm gonna be able to get over that.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, that one got me as well. When you're like, what's an old TV show? The US Office.

[Matthew Crosby]

The US Office.

[Ed Gamble]

Not even the. You know, because when. When did the. The original office come up? 2001, maybe. Yeah. So, like, that's.

[Matthew Crosby]

She can't watch that. That's far too old. No, no, no.

[Ed Gamble]

That. That virtually is like. It's like looking at Zoetrope.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

It's like, why would you do that to yourself? Why would. Horse jumping over a thing, you know? No.

[Matthew Crosby]

Gonna be able to watch the UK Office. I've got to, you know, build a shadow puppet.

[Ed Gamble]

I couldn't believe it. But, yeah, I guess. I guess Emily, did she say she was 26, born in 99 then. So.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, no, but what we've gotta understand what Gen Z have to understand. Matthew is.

[Ed Gamble]

Here we go. Here we go. I knew I'd coax it out of him.

[Matthew Crosby]

Things can happen before you're born, and that's old stuff. Fine. If it was something in 98, then I could say, that's an old TV TV show. But it doesn't all have to be within your lifetime.

[Ed Gamble]

But if I was watching something from 1980 within my lifetime, that would be an old.

[Vin (Producer)]

No, but that's because you're old.

[Matthew Crosby]

That's because you're an old man. And this is what you're failing to realize with all this. Matthew, you are old. And the way you speak to these people, I think you think that you're on a level with them and that you're reporting back to me and Vin. You're like, here's some of my young friends, us, just hanging out.

[Ed Gamble]

That's exactly what I think. In fact, if any of them come in on a Sunday, I'M gonna clock off in a second and go for coffee with them. I genuinely think I'm gonna get invited to some sort of pop up event, something to do with the new Stranger Things or something like that. I genuinely think that that's in my future. I can hang out with some young people, I can meet some influencers and I can become the next big TikTok star. Anyway, but that's in my future. We've got one more chat. We wanted. We had a chat with a young whipperstapper called Chris. Let's hear here, Chris. Chris Moyles.

[Chris]

Hello.

[Ed Gamble]

Do you ever listen to old music?

[Chris]

What's old music?

[Ed Gamble]

Well, you can answer that question. What is old music?

[Chris]

Beethoven.

[Ed Gamble]

That's pretty old. How often do you listen to Beethoven?

[Chris]

I don't, but I was answering the what's old music question.

[Ed Gamble]

What old music do you listen to? That isn't Beethoven.

[Chris]

Duran Duran.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, that is pretty old. Must be 40 years old now.

[Chris]

John Duran. I wasn't around.

[Ed Gamble]

No, of course you weren't. Of course you asked. I tell you what. Do you remember the Girls on Film video?

[Chris]

This. This does seem like more than one question.

[Ed Gamble]

Sorry, yes, I've got you more questions.

[Chris]

What about the. The Girls on Film?

[Ed Gamble]

Do you remember it? It was quite. It was.

[Chris]

Tell me about it.

[Ed Gamble]

It was quite formative video, I think, for me. Was it for you?

[Chris]

I've never seen. I've never seen it.

[Ed Gamble]

You've never seen it? No. Have you got YouTube?

[Chris]

I've seen girls, Girls, Girls by Motley Crue video.

[Ed Gamble]

That's. We, of course, remember Girls, Girls. Have you. Have you read the.

[Chris]

The Dirt? I'm dyslexic.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, you should get the audiobook, it's really good. Chris Morris, it's been a pleasure chatting to you.

[Chris]

Can I ask you a question?

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, you can ask me as many questions as you like.

[Chris]

If you could do a radio show once a week with your favorite comedian, who would that person be?

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, in a heartbeat. James Acaster.

[Matthew Crosby]

So predictable.

[Ed Gamble]

So predictable. But it's only because Ronnie Corbett's dead.

[Matthew Crosby]

Interesting, isn't it, that often the best interviewers, the worst interviewees. Yeah, yeah, he was.

[Ed Gamble]

He wasn't given nothing. He wasn't given anything he didn't want to be doing.

[Matthew Crosby]

He didn't want to interrupt again when he was trying to do other stuff.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, he was working.

[Matthew Crosby]

He'd done his show.

[Ed Gamble]

It was midway through his show, I just walked in. Really, really bad form. Really, really bad form.

[Radio X Announcer]

Crobby J and the Machine, Radio X.

[Ed Gamble]

What a show. It's been what a show it's been.

[Matthew Crosby]

I've barely had to do anything.

[Ed Gamble]

That's true. If I come in a couple of days I earlier and just chat to young people, there is no real show for you to do. You can just say, oh, Matthew, you're. You're a sad old B, aren't you?

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Vin (Producer)]

Do you think you've learned anything from doing this for a couple of weeks now?

[Matthew Crosby]

Bigger trousers.

[Ed Gamble]

This is the main thing is you knew.

[Vin (Producer)]

Really, you knew that going in.

[Ed Gamble]

I knew I had to get bigger trousers.

[Matthew Crosby]

Well, look at my trousers. How are we feeling about those? They're not young people trousers.

[Ed Gamble]

No.

[Matthew Crosby]

Because they're jeans.

[Ed Gamble]

So I don't look like I'm trying to ape the young people.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

I'm not, you know, and also I'm not going to of so far that they are going to look like MC Hammer trousers or anything like that. But I think, yeah, mine are a little bit too drain piping skinny jeans.

[Matthew Crosby]

That you are years out of date with that.

[Ed Gamble]

Years out of date. Yeah. You know, I look like what I am, which is a dad on the school run. Yes, that's what I look like. But yes, I need to get a slightly. My problem. We've talked about this before. My problem is I worry it's going to make me look even shorter. I'm going to look more like a sort of teacup.

[Matthew Crosby]

I'd love that. Okay, then we'd like that.

[Ed Gamble]

The small. The smaller I am, the happier you are.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yes.

[Ed Gamble]

Okay.

[Vin (Producer)]

I sort of do. Just imagine Matthew was a tea cozy anyway.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, I do. I imagine him as granddad in a nice way.

[Ed Gamble]

I'll ask the young people about that. Yeah, that's for next week's chat with the young people. Now I've been told I can't do the chat with the young people for a little while. I've got to. We've got to rest the format because the young people are getting scared and they don't want to come into work and HR have been involved. Anyway, stay tuned for Danny Wallace's entire show. Have a wonderful week. We're going to be back next week, 8am on a Sunday.

[Radio X Announcer]

Radio X Ed Gamble and Matthew Crosby.

[Ed Gamble]

So folks, there we go. That was the show. And what a wonderful show it was.

[Matthew Crosby]

What a wonderful show. Vin's not heard our intro yet but just. Just to save in. If you've ever imagined Johnny Vaughn being pope, we've discussed it.

[Ed Gamble]

We've definitely chatted about that. Yes.

[Vin (Producer)]

Should we do quick to hear that now yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, you'll love it. Should we do Becky?

[Matthew Crosby]

Ricky's Becky Recky is Stranger Things, obviously. But, you know, come on, everyone's watching that.

[Ed Gamble]

Everybody's watching that.

[Matthew Crosby]

Everybody and everybody and their dogs watching that, for God's sake.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

But yes, very excited. I've just. Just started watching the new episodes. Hey, this is a cool story.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

I was in Copenhagen. I was on stage, chatted to a man in the sort of second or third row. I thought, he seems like a cool guy. He's like a metal guy. And he turns out he worked at Soundstation, which is a really cool record shop in Copenhagen.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

And I was asking him about his favorite bands and stuff and we had a quick chat and then it got too nerdy. So I was like, I've got to move on now because there's other people.

[Ed Gamble]

Just for you and I. Yeah, yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

Then he put up an Instagram story afterwards saying, have you ever been sat in a comedy audience and they play your band in the pre show music?

[Ed Gamble]

No.

[Matthew Crosby]

He's in the Danish hardcore band Eyes.

[Ed Gamble]

That's unbelievable.

[Matthew Crosby]

And I play Eyes. It's one of my pre show playlist tracks.

[Ed Gamble]

And you have Eyes as well.

[Matthew Crosby]

And I have eyes.

[Ed Gamble]

And you use them to look at the audience and say, oh, look, there's a bloke in the audience I want to chat to.

[Matthew Crosby]

And I was like, oh, I've not listened to Eyes in a while. So I went and checked. They've got a new album out called Spinner. And I went to Soundstation the next day and bought the new Eyes album, Spinner on vintage vinyl.

[Ed Gamble]

That's lovely.

[Matthew Crosby]

So that's a cool story.

[Ed Gamble]

That is a cool story. Yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Why are you doing your cool stories in the outro? You had a go at me because.

[Matthew Crosby]

It'S a Beck rec.

[Ed Gamble]

It's a Beck rec.

[Matthew Crosby]

It's a Beck rec. It's the new. The new Eyes album. All in Capital's Eyes.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. I mean, I can't tell you what I've been listening to this week because it's absolutely pointless in me recommending these three albums that I've listened to on kind of, which is. I don't know if you've heard of the Life of a Showgirl by Taylor Swift. You've been listening to that biggest album of all time. Yeah, yeah, it's. It's, it's good. I really like it.

[Vin (Producer)]

Really not good.

[Ed Gamble]

It's good. I like it. No, it's got. I would say it's got a handful of songs. I really like on it.

[Vin (Producer)]

It's bad.

[Ed Gamble]

It's not bad. Well, that's because you don't know the life of a showgirl.

[Vin (Producer)]

It's just really bad.

[Ed Gamble]

This is.

[Sakisa]

You know what?

[Ed Gamble]

You know what? Do you know what? Sabrina was right. That's not what showgirls get. They leave you for dead. That's how I feel anyway. Yeah, it's not. It's not laughably bad. Vin, you snob. What do you gain, my friend? What do you gain from me saying, oh, I like this, and you go, no, it's rubbish.

[Vin (Producer)]

Yeah, that's a fair point.

[Ed Gamble]

What do you gain?

[Vin (Producer)]

That is a fair point, but I can't.

[Ed Gamble]

Does it add a few.

[Matthew Crosby]

Did tell us we had to keep this tight because he's got to go and do his actual job.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. He couldn't have just gone, well done, Matthew. I hope you enjoy this for the first time.

[Matthew Crosby]

Matthew.

[Vin (Producer)]

Album is atrocious, though.

[Ed Gamble]

It's not atrocious.

[Matthew Crosby]

It's really, really awful.

[Ed Gamble]

There are some good songs on it and I enjoy listening to it and I. A piece.

[Matthew Crosby]

You are a piece.

[Ed Gamble]

Go on, then, Brian Eno. What the bloody hell have you been listening to?

[Vin (Producer)]

Briano's pretty good.

[Ed Gamble]

He is good, yeah. Yeah. What have you been listening to that so far?

[Vin (Producer)]

Well, obviously radio. I just. I went saw radio.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, cool. Bunch of blokes, is it? Just a bunch of. A bunch of miserable blokes complaining about stuff.

[Matthew Crosby]

Did you?

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Lovely legs. Yeah, lovely legs.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Vin (Producer)]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Anyway, I got a ready head do.

[Vin (Producer)]

Sound good for an influencer thing.

[Matthew Crosby]

Did you?

[Vin (Producer)]

I think. I imagine it'll be largely.

[Ed Gamble]

Was it a young person to adore old people?

[Vin (Producer)]

Largely unusable, I'm sure.

[Matthew Crosby]

What did you say?

[Ed Gamble]

I hate women. Was that part. Was that how you started?

[Vin (Producer)]

I said I liked her coat and then I think I talked about fridges for a bit. Anyway, yeah, I do need to go. Let's go.

[Ed Gamble]

You gotta go, man.

[Matthew Crosby]

Right.

[Ed Gamble]

What a joy. See you next week.

[Sakisa]

Bye.

[Vin (Producer)]

Bye.

[Ed Gamble]

Great depot, Banks.