Ep. 77 - Stephen Laster: From Harvard to Panopto - Scaling EdTech That Matters

Summary

EdTech Connect Ep. 77 — Stephen Laster: From Harvard to Panopto - Scaling EdTech That Matters

Date: March 6, 2026
Host: Jeff Dillon
Guest: Stephen Laster, CEO of Panopto

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Episode Overview

This episode features Stephen Laster, a renowned edtech leader whose journey spans executive roles at Harvard Business School, McGraw Hill, D2L, Ellucian, and now Panopto. Laster discusses the evolution of digital learning, shares lessons from his personal and professional journey, and explores how Panopto is shaping the future of scalable, accessible, AI-driven education. Central themes include putting learners first, the importance of experimentation, AI’s real value in education, and sustaining innovation in shifting institutional landscapes.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Personal Journey: Dyslexia, Technology, and Empathy

[01:55 – 03:54]

• Laster’s early struggle with undiagnosed dyslexia deeply informs his passion for edtech.
• Technology, starting with an Apple II, allowed him to transition from a “failing student to a student” by enabling him to demonstrate his ideas in ways traditional instruction did not support.
• Quote:

  “I took to [the Apple II] like unbelievably, to the point where I wrote a spell checker and a word processor for it... and really went from being a failing student to a student because I was able to get my ideas out through technology.” — Stephen Laster [03:33]

2. Leadership Lessons from Campus to Vendor Side

[05:17 – 06:49]

• Time at Harvard Business School and Babson cemented a customer-centric mindset.
• The “preciousness” of the teaching moment and the lack of room for error in academia guide his approach to building edtech products.
• Quote:

  “Few people get an education to be technologists... They get an education to make an impact.” — Stephen Laster [05:57]

3. What Panopto Is & Its Expanding Role

[06:49 – 08:00]

• Initially developed at Carnegie Mellon, Panopto captures live lectures and learning materials, enables asynchronous review and reflection, and integrates seamlessly with major LMSs.
• Its value is heightened for visual and auditory learners.
• Quote:

  “We’re able to take what happens in the classroom, review it, reflect on it and learn from it on our own time, in our own place... [This] adds to the richness of an experience for a student.” — Stephen Laster [07:41]

4. Human-Centered, AI-First Pedagogy

[08:00 – 09:56]

• Laster refines the “AI-First” claim: Panopto is “human-centered AI-first,” focusing on AI as a tool to expand learning rather than replace human interaction.
• AI supports by automating content creation (e.g., avatar-based video from flat materials), generating knowledge checks, providing feedback/analytics, summarizing, and translating.
• Panopto’s philosophy: Pedagogy remains core; AI is leveraged to do tasks that restore time and focus to educators and learners.
• Quote:

  “We know teaching and learning are innately human, but technology can help scale it. And it’s at that apex that we infuse our AI into those workflows.” — Stephen Laster [09:43]

5. Institutional Knowledge Sharing & Scaling

[09:56 – 11:50]

• Beyond being a classroom resource, Panopto is now a knowledge-sharing hub, connecting not just students, but alumni and institutional stakeholders.
• Collaboration with Anthropic: Moving from basic search to AI-powered content recommendations and knowledge pathway curation.
• Focus: Empower institutions to leverage their validated, curated resources.

6. Current Trends Laster Finds Exciting

[11:50 – 13:31]

• The cost of creating engaging digital content is dropping, increasing access and room for innovation.
• Interoperability (led by organizations like OneEdTech) is making powerful learning experiences easier to assemble.
• Delivery of knowledge is shifting toward “just-in-time” and informal learning in smaller, more digestible chunks.
• Quote:

  “We are making it easier to deliver ideas visually and through audio and in smaller chunks so that we’re able to drive more informal learning or just-in-time learning.” — Stephen Laster [12:58]

7. Remaining Gaps and Barriers in EdTech

[13:31 – 15:09]

• Core critique: Insufficient time and support for faculty development—innovation is impeded by time constraints, not just technology limitations.
• Panopto’s strategy: Maintain focus on visual and auditory learning, drive ease of use, and support partnerships.
• Quote:

  “I think this is a time issue, frankly... Are we given the people that we charge with delivering the education enough breathing room and time to innovate to be the best that they can be?” — Stephen Laster [14:37]

8. Managing Innovation in Complex Institutions

[15:09 – 17:06]

• Laster’s “deliberate experimentation” approach: Take smart risks with clear goals, accept some failures, learn, and iterate.
• Case studies: Online MBA at Babson, HBS Online—both started as entrepreneurial experiments with strong administrative backing.
• Quote:

  “It’s about smart risk-taking. And... being very clear on the goals.” — Stephen Laster [16:35]

9. Macro Trends in Higher Ed & Corporate Learning

[17:06 – 18:58]

• Corporate learning requires rapid upskilling—Panopto’s role is to empower people to stay relevant, which is now a cornerstone of organizational success.
• In higher ed, cycles of experimentation and adjustment are now essential.
• Both sectors must break down large goals into smaller, actionable pieces.

10. Overcoming Resistance to Tech & Building Trust

[18:58 – 20:11]

• Main friction points: Educating faculty and instructional designers, cultivating acceptance for “smart failures.”
• Success in innovation requires “way stations to benchmark against” and a culture tolerant of experimentation.
• Quote:

  “You have to create the conditions, number one, for people to learn... And then, number two, you have to create the conditions where smart failures are rewarded.” — Stephen Laster [19:19]

11. Sustaining Mission-Driven Culture Amid Growth

[20:11 – 21:47]

• Laster emphasizes “North Stars” to prevent mission drift:
  1. Visual & auditory learning leadership
  2. Customer centricity
  3. Attracting and retaining top talent
• Quote:

  “Every organization needs to know its birthright and needs to stay true to it, but then adapt as opportunities and times change.” — Stephen Laster [21:27]

12. The Future of Learning with Panopto

[21:47 – 22:58]

• Laster’s take on future predictions is humble and pragmatic:
  • Aspirational goal: Panopto should remain the go-to for best expertise and solutions for visual and auditory learners, flexing with whatever “state of the art” tools the future brings.
• Quote:

  “What those features look like, I’ll tell you in five years.” — Stephen Laster [22:56]

13. Advice for Next-Gen EdTech Leaders

[22:58 – 24:06]

• Direct experience is irreplaceable—if you want to excel in building tools for educators, you must understand their work firsthand.
• Story: Laster was thrust into teaching, mentored by a faculty partner, which gave him deep empathy for the field.
• Quote:

  “If you’re really going to be passionate about anything you’re making technology for, go do the job. There’s no substitute for experience of the persona you’re trying to serve.” — Stephen Laster [23:50]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Human-AI Balance:
  “We know teaching and learning are innately human, but technology can help scale it. And it’s at that apex that we infuse our AI into those workflows.” — Stephen Laster [09:43]

• On Overcoming Resistance:
  “You have to create the conditions, number one, for people to learn... And then, number two, you have to create the conditions where smart failures are rewarded.” — Stephen Laster [19:19]

• On Institutional Culture:
  “Every organization needs to know its birthright and needs to stay true to it, but then adapt as opportunities and times change.” — Stephen Laster [21:27]

• Practical Advice for EdTech Builders:
  “If you’re really going to be passionate about anything you’re making technology for, go do the job. There’s no substitute for experience of the persona you’re trying to serve.” — Stephen Laster [23:50]

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Timeline of Important Segments

• 01:55 – Stephen’s early life, dyslexia, and discovering technology
• 05:17 – Leadership takeaways from Harvard/Babson to product companies
• 06:49 – What Panopto is, its history, and core mission
• 08:24 – Human-centered AI and its application in learning
• 10:24 – Scaling knowledge sharing and institutional impact
• 12:19 – Current innovations: reducing costs, interoperability, informal learning
• 13:31 – Persistent industry gaps: faculty support and development
• 15:38 – Balancing innovation with real-world institutional constraints
• 17:31 – Macro learning trends in higher ed and business
• 19:18 – Overcoming resistance to new tech and fostering experimentation
• 20:36 – Culture, mission, and “north stars” at Panopto
• 22:04 – Five-year vision (or skepticism about it)
• 23:10 – Advice: get direct experience as an educator

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Final Takeaways

• Laster’s approach prioritizes user empathy, deliberate experimentation, and a flexible-yet-focused institutional mission.
• AI should augment—not supplant—the human dimension of teaching and learning.
• Scalable, effective edtech demands continuous support for the people who deliver learning, not just better tech.
• For would-be edtech leaders: step into the educator’s shoes to truly make a difference.

This episode offers a compelling view from the frontlines of edtech transformation, blending practical wisdom, humility, and a clear-eyed optimism about the future of learning.

Transcript

[Stephen Laster]

When disruptive ways of doing a job are introduced via technology, you have to create the conditions, number one, for people to learn. So how are we educating our instructional designers? How are we educating our facilitators, our faculty? And then, number two, you have to create the conditions where smart failures are rewarded. Right. Otherwise you end up being very brittle and very risk averse.

[Podcast Host (EdTech Connect Intro)]

Welcome to another episode of the EdTech Connect podcast. If you've been following the evolution of digital learning, chances are you've seen the influence of today's guest, Stephen Laster. Stephen is currently the CEO of panopto, where he's leading the charge to transform learning through an AI first video platform. With a career spanning executive roles at McGraw Hill, Education, D2L, Ellucian and Harvard Business School, Stephen has consistently been at the forefront of digital transformation in education. From helping scale McGraw Hill's digital learning platform to reinventing project strategies at D2L and Ellucian, he shaped how millions of learners engage with content. His leadership blends technical expertise with a passion for accessible, impactful learning. Whether serving adult learners or pioneering simulation tech at Harvard, Steven's work is about breaking barriers and unlocking potential.

[Jeff (Podcast Host/Interviewer)]

Well, welcome to the show, Stephen. I'm happy to have you today.

[Stephen Laster]

Thank you. It's great to be here with you.

[Jeff (Podcast Host/Interviewer)]

Well, let's start off and talk about your background a little bit. I saw you've held a Merchant Mariner master certification. How does that adventurous side of your life intersect with your leadership style in edtech?

[Stephen Laster]

Yeah, it's a great question. You know, I did start out at a very young age working around boats and boatyards. I started in boatyards when I was age 13 and I do hold my Coast Guard license, 50 ton license. I would say, you know, everything that I've learned out at sea really has helped my leadership style in terms of being a really master problem solver, in terms of helping people work together to bring the best out of teams. And I think it's given me the ability to stay calm and stay cool as we navigate edtech, universities and companies

[Jeff (Podcast Host/Interviewer)]

through transformation, you've led digital transformation at some of the biggest names in education. Parker Business School, McGraw Hill, D2L, now Canopto. What has drawn you consistently to this intersection of education and technology?

[Stephen Laster]

Yeah, you know, it's very personal for me. I am very dyslexic and I grew up in a K12 environment in the late 70s and early 80s where that wasn't well understood. So I was known as lazy, sloppy, making silly math mistakes. If I just Rolled down my shirts and sit up sitting straight. I would do better at school. Obviously all of that was nonsense. I was very lucky. My father, through happenstance, brought home an Apple II in about 1981. And I took to it like unbelievably, to the point where I wrote a spell checker and a word processor for it and was one of the first kids in my high school to turn in papers on a dot matrix printer and really went from being a failing student to a student because I was able to get my ideas out through technology. And I think that was what has drawn me into the power of technology for teaching and learning and guided a lot of my career.

[Jeff (Podcast Host/Interviewer)]

Wow, there's a lot there. Well, during that time at McGraw Hill, you really helped build large scale digital learning ecosystems right at really a moment when digital was becoming core, not optional. And I think you've also been open about like, being dyslexic gives you a very personal lens on how people actually experience learning tools. Looking back, how has that combination shaped the way you're thinking about digital education has evolved since then. What do you see differently now that you may have missed at the time?

[Stephen Laster]

I don't know if it's so much missing. I think some of the themes are consistent. I think now the state of the art gives us even more opportunity to create agency for students and for instructors. It's become even more easy to really look. Learning is innately a human endeavor, and most of us are inspired by mentors and teachers and others in our learning journey. But we also need to be able to succeed and struggle on our own to scale it. And I think over the past 20 years, digital technologies have continued to evolve such that doing that in ways that make the technology transparent, in ways that make the learning more efficient, has only become easier. And that's what continues to excite me today.

[Jeff (Podcast Host/Interviewer)]

You've led technology from the inside of a complex institution as CIO at Harvard Business School, and now you're applying those lessons in a product role at panopto. What leadership lessons carried over and what surprised you once you cross from campus leadership into building tools for campuses at scale?

[Stephen Laster]

You know, my time at HBS and my time at Babson were invaluable, I think, in terms of really making sure whether it was at McGraw D2L or an Alpineopto, that we really, really, really put the customer at the center of what we do. I think my time on campus helped me understand how precious that teaching moment is, how little room for error there is. The academic calendar doesn't have slack time in it. And few people get an education to be technologists. Right? They get an education to make an impact. And so those lessons that I brought now to the provider side I think have really allowed me to understand what it means to have a great product and a great offering. And I would not have been successful but for the experiences at Babson and

[Jeff (Podcast Host/Interviewer)]

at HBS and for anyone who may not be as close to the space, panopto often shows up quietly but sits right at the center of teaching, learning institutional knowledge at a high level. What is panopto? What role does it play inside the broader edtech?

[Stephen Laster]

Yeah, you know, panopto was incubated and created at Carnegie Mellon University. Forever grateful for that. But I think it really shows our authentic focus. It was born to solve a really interesting problem and that is how do you extend through time and boundary? List the notion of what happened in the classroom and what panopto is able to do is capture classroom lectures and activities. It's also able to ingest curriculum materials and whether it's materials or a live lecture, turn that into video or avatar driven video. It's able to chunk that up into learning objectives. It's able to infuse checks for knowledge and feedback into it and organize it in a portal where it's findable and addressable and integrated into the course via the LMS. So that for the 60% of us who are primary visual and auditory learners, we're able to take what happens in the classroom, review it, reflect on it and learn from it on our own time, in our own place. And whether it's on ground or online, that modality of learning is just adds to the richness of an experience for a student.

[Jeff (Podcast Host/Interviewer)]

You've described panopto as an AI first platform and that phrase gets thrown around a lot right now.

[Stephen Laster]

It does.

[Jeff (Podcast Host/Interviewer)]

What I'm curious about is what it really means in day to day use. How are you applying AI in ways that actually make learning easier, more accessible or more effective? And where do you think AI is already delivering real value versus just being aspirational?

[Stephen Laster]

Sure. Really good questions and I would actually like to refine that. I believe we're a human centered AI first platform. So what we're not doing and what I don't believe in is AI is a substitute for learning community. What I do believe is AI in core workflows expands the reach and breadth and access to that community. So what we're doing is we're letting AI do a job that's meaningful and useful, that Gives back time to learner or instructor to drive community. So what does that mean? We're using AI, as I said, to take your flat materials and turn them into avatar based video. We're using AI to generate checks for knowledge and feedbacks and interactions so that we drive learner engagement and help them understand where to spend their time and give instructor feedback either by student or by class or by group of classes who's understanding what and where things aren't succeeding. We're using AI for things like summarization, for translation. All activities that used to get in the way of broadening our learning community or were too expensive frankly to pay people to do at scale. So we're a big believer in holding pedagogy at the core of everything we do. We know teaching and learning are innately human, but we also know that technology can help scale it. And it's at that apex that we infuse our AI into those workflows.

[Jeff (Podcast Host/Interviewer)]

As institutions head into 2026, the challenge I think isn't going to be how to create more content. It's really making knowledge findable and reusable. With panopto sitting at the intersection of teaching and training and really institutional memory, how are you helping organizations scale knowledge sharing in a way that really works?

[Stephen Laster]

Yeah, it's a really good question. If you had looked at panopto a few years ago, our primary goal, and we still, this is still a significant goal and we do it with excellence, was to integrate with the lms. And we do that with all the major LMS providers. We want the technology to fade into the background. We believe in interoperability and we think that's critical. More recently, we've also extended that through our panopto connect to get to alumni, to get to prospects, to get to influencers, to make this institutional knowledge available to all the institutions, constituencies and bodies. So that's one thing that we're doing to extend the boundary and drive the connectedness over the lifetime of the individual to the institution. The other thing that we're doing in partnership with Anthropic is really moving from search as finding something to really allowing the institution to leverage their repository of visual information and learning pathways. And so using that with AI to have an agent help you and to make more of a recommendation approach so you can achieve your knowledge objectives, but using content that you know is correct and you know is valuable because it's been curated by the university. And so those are two examples of what we're doing in 2026.

[Jeff (Podcast Host/Interviewer)]

You're describing a world where knowledge has to move faster, be more searchable and work across far more contexts than it's used to. And it puts a lot of pressure on product design and long term thinking. Given your background building platforms and leading product teams, what excites you the most about the current wave of ed tech innovation? And where do you think we're finally getting things right?

[Stephen Laster]

I think it's a few things. I think it's a great question. I think we are driving down the cost of creating engaging digital learning experiences, which is phenomenal because that increases access and it increases opportunity to innovate on the part of course developers and instructors. And so that benefits learners. Frankly, I think the continued drive towards interoperability as sort of stewarded by one EdTech, formerly IMS Global, is paying incredible dividends. I think it is an ecosystem and so we're seeing the complexity of putting together really powerful learning experiences continue to go down and they're easier to put together. And then I think thirdly, we are making it easier to deliver ideas visually and through audio and in smaller chunks so that we're able to drive more informal learning or just in time learning. And I think as jobs change, as the state of the art of the possible continues to change, I think that just in time is really important and I think we're seeing that happen.

[Jeff (Podcast Host/Interviewer)]

As much progress as we're seeing, I still feel like parts of digital learning haven't really caught up to how people actually teach and learn and share knowledge. Where do you see the biggest gaps that remain? And how do you see Panopto helping push the space forward over the next few years?

[Stephen Laster]

Yeah, I think the way panopto helps is we are laser focused on what we do and we're very open and so we are big believers in being a good actor in an ecosystem. What we do really well is that visual and audio learning moment. So steeped in feedback, steeped in engagement and put in the context of a scope and sequence or a set of skills that people need to learn. And we're passionate about ease of use and we're passionate about partnerships and that's why we have 1600 incredibly happy university customers whose growth and usage of us is increasing every day. I think if you look across the globe, you can find evidence of folks who are using technology in incredible ways to deliver teaching and learning. I think if I had any critique of us as a segment or an industry, it's we need to continue to have space and time for faculty development and for supporting faculty and innovation. This is not A technology issue. I think this is a time issue, frankly. You're right. How we teach is changing. The question is, are we given the people that we charge with delivering the education enough breathing room and time to innovate to be the best that they can be?

[Jeff (Podcast Host/Interviewer)]

Yeah. I think closing these gaps often sounds straightforward in theory, but in practice it runs straight into governance and budgets and legacy systems and change management. You've seen that from both the campus side and the product side. How do you balance pushing meaningful innovation forward with what's really implementable or inside large, complex institutions?

[Stephen Laster]

So I've always taken an approach of deliberate experimentation. I mean, I was hired at Babson 25 years ago to start one of the country's first online MBA programs. And at that time, you know, if you had walked onto Babson's campus, they would have told you we are an in classroom, on ground and that's who we are. But we had a provost and a president and a dean who sponsored Taking a Risk. And we had a board, chuda Babson Spirit of Entrepreneurship, who was willing to fund the risk. We didn't know how it was going to end up. It ended up succeeding beyond our expectations. But we also did other experiments with technology that same time of Epson that frankly we shelved that didn't have the impact that we wanted. And so I think it's about smart risk taking. And I think number two, it's being very clear on the goals. You know, I was fortunate to be at HBS at the very dawn of HBS Online as an example. Who would have thought that HBS would have created an online offering that today is scaled beyond their wildest dreams? And again, you had administrators and dean who saw the potential of the future and were willing to take a smart risk. In the center of all of that work was a focus on quality and being very clear about the outcomes that we wanted to drive. And I think those ingredients should be celebrated and we need more of that.

[Jeff (Podcast Host/Interviewer)]

When you spend your time navigating execution and sveail and long term decisions, you start seeing patterns beyond any single product or institution. From your seat as a CEO, what macro trends are emerging across higher education and corporate learning that institutions can't really afford to ignore?

[Stephen Laster]

Yeah, I think so. In corporate learning, where we're growing incredibly quickly and having major impacts. I mean, to sound trite, jobs are changing faster than ever. And look, we all know that hiring and retaining great people is at the core of any corporation's success. And so the contract has to be to create opportunities to Quickly, reskill, retrain and continue to grow people if we're going to have successful companies. That's the heart of everything we do at Team Panopto. It's about the people and it's about giving them opportunities to grow and learn. And I think we play, I know we play a big part of that with our customers as well. And so that's critical in this moment of success. And I would say the same thing is true in higher ed. I mean, particularly us. Higher ed is going through a real period of uncertainty, as we know. And the only thing that I know is we need to work in short iterations of experimentation, learn from them, adjust and move forward. And that's also very has been true and is very true for business today. So I celebrate teams and lead teams that take big complicated ideas, turn them into smaller parts, sequence them, focus, get stuff done, learn and repeat.

[Jeff (Podcast Host/Interviewer)]

Yeah, that's a repeatable cycle for sure. When new digital tools enter an institution, the tech is often the easy part. Where do you most often see friction or resistance show up and how do you navigate those challenges in a way that builds the trust and momentum?

[Stephen Laster]

So not just institutions, you know, but more broadly speaking, when disruptive ways of doing a job are introduced via technology, you have to create the conditions, number one, for people to learn. So how are we educating our instructional designers? How are we educating our facilitators, our faculty? And then number two, you have to create the conditions where smart failures are rewarded. Right. Otherwise you end up being very brittle and very risk averse. In my career, have I built products that didn't go anywhere? Of course I have, but that's part of innovation. Right. The point is knowing that you're in that modality and having way stations to benchmark against and taking smart risks. And I think whether it's corporate or higher ed, it's equally true. Yeah.

[Jeff (Podcast Host/Interviewer)]

As institutions or organizations grow, I think there's always tension between moving fast and staying true to why you exist in the first place. Processes creep in, priorities multiply, your focus can get fuzzy. How are you thinking about culture as a way to keep innovation moving forward without losing that mission driven core?

[Stephen Laster]

You know that that is a fantastic question and I am a big, big believer in focus and benefited in my career from having mentors who really taught me the power of focus. At Panopto we have three north stars. Number one, to be the leader in visual and auditory learning in an open ecosystem. Number two, to be the most customer centric edtech provider there is. And number three, to be the Destination for the brightest and best who can build vibrant careers at the company. So those north stars don't change, they drive our decision making. For Babson, it was being a leader in entrepreneurship. For hbs, it was being a living laboratory of business. I think every organization needs to know its birthright and needs to stay true to it, but then adapt as opportunities and times change. And that's what I believe we're doing at Panopto today. So it's the combination of agility and the willingness to evaluate how we're operating, but within the context of durable North Stars, I think is paramount.

[Jeff (Podcast Host/Interviewer)]

A lot of roadmaps focus on features, but the real question is how learning changes for people.

[Stephen Laster]

Yep.

[Jeff (Podcast Host/Interviewer)]

Five years from now, how do you hope Naato fits into the daily experience of learners and institutions? How do you see the edtech industry evolving around that?

[Stephen Laster]

So I'm a little snarky on that topic and I'll get to your answer in a second. But as a 30 year old, I was the guy who would stand up at the conference and challenge the keynote speaker about their five year vision.

[Jeff (Podcast Host/Interviewer)]

Right.

[Stephen Laster]

And try and call him out on it. So I'm skeptical of futurists. I will say that out front, especially right now.

[Jeff (Podcast Host/Interviewer)]

How far out can you.

[Stephen Laster]

Especially right now.

[Jeff (Podcast Host/Interviewer)]

Right.

[Stephen Laster]

What I will say is my wish for Panopto and I am leading the company so that five years from now you still turn to us to really have the best expertise and best solutions for visual and auditory learners. And how we do that will be through the state of the art that makes us the most engaging, efficient and effective for you. What those features look like, I'll tell you in five years.

[Jeff (Podcast Host/Interviewer)]

Yeah, I love that. As a final thought for emerging ed tech leaders who want to have the kind of cross sector impact you've had, what's one piece of advice you wish you had earlier in your career?

[Stephen Laster]

Not so much. I wish I had the happenstance that was invaluable. Let me reframe your question. So I was hired to Babson, as I said, to be the tech guy starting up this online MBA program. And it happened that a week before the semester started they had a faculty member take leave and they needed somebody to come teach problem solving and software design. And so they just turned to me out of desperation. I didn't know how to teach, but they gave me a faculty partner, mentor and for the next seven years I taught one or two courses a semester. That teaching experience made me the ed tech leader that I am today. So what I would say is, if you're really going to be passionate about anything you're making technology for. Go do the job right. It's just there's no substitute for experience of the Persona you're trying to serve.

[Jeff (Podcast Host/Interviewer)]

I love that. Go do the job, everybody. Well, Stephen, it has been great to have you on the show. I will put links to Panopto in the show notes. You can visit Panopto and Anteconnect as well. And also Steven's LinkedIn profile put a link in there as well. So great to have you on. Thank you, Steven.

[Stephen Laster]

Love the conversation. Thank you, Jeff. Take care. Bye.

[Jeff (Podcast Host/Interviewer)]

Bye.

[Podcast Outro Narrator]

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[Stephen Laster]

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[Podcast Outro Narrator]

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