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Effectively Wild Episode 2473: Rushing to Judgement

Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast

Fri May 01 2026

Summary

Effectively Wild Episode 2473: "Rushing to Judgement"

Date: May 1, 2026
Hosts: Ben Lindbergh (The Ringer), Meg Rowley (FanGraphs)
Main Theme: The Rise—and Redassery—of Dalton Rushing, and Thoughts on Baseball Temperaments

Episode Overview

Ben and Meg dedicate much of this episode to discussing the emergence of Dodgers catcher Dalton Rushing—not just his hot start at the plate, but more notably, his on-field combative attitude (or, as the hosts call it, "red ass" behavior). They break down several recent incidents involving Rushing, consider the nuances of baseball temperaments, and reflect on the broader context of emotional expression in the sport. Later, the duo also briefly discusses lingering Red Sox front-office drama before introducing a guest segment (not summarized).

Key Discussion Points

1. Defining "Red Ass" and Its Baseball Context

What is a "red ass"?
- Ben cites the Dickson Baseball Dictionary: “A tough, angry, intense player. A player who plays hard. A raging competitor who hates to lose.”
- Meg adds: it's not just about intensity, it's also about being "unreasonable," "aggro," and having "a short fuse." (02:05–02:13)
Quote:
"It's not just that you are an intense competitor, but also you're kind of over the top. You're aggro. It's like, settle down, dudes." – Ben Lindbergh (02:13)
The term "red ass" is part of baseball lore and folk language, often celebrated or reviled depending on who's exhibiting it and who the audience is.

2. Dalton Rushing: The New "Red Ass" in MLB

Key Incidents:
- April: Sign-stealing Accusation
  - Rushing implies the Rockies were cheating after a Dodgers loss:
    "I think it's odd that some of those hitters… go up there and they're on the first pitch that was thrown. So it's a little fishy, but I'll wear it." (03:00)
  - Rockies turn "fishy" into a dugout celebration in response.
  - Manager Dave Roberts undermines Rushing’s accusation, saying he saw nothing "fishy" (04:00).
- Giants Game Incident
  - Rushing appears to say “f*** him” as Giants' Jung Hoo Lee is writhing after a slide (interpreted via lip reading).
  - Retaliation follows: Giants' Webb hits Rushing with a pitch, leading Rushing to respond with a hard takeout slide (05:00–06:00).
  - Luis Arraez criticizes the slide, calling it "not clean baseball." (05:46)
  - Quote:
    "Don't be confused, young man. I do not have your back in any of this." – Meg Rowley, paraphrasing Dave Roberts' stance (06:04)
  - Dave Roberts both acknowledges Giants’ likely retaliation and does not defend Rushing’s original comments (06:16).
- Cubs Game Incident
  - Rushing allegedly calls Miguel Amaya "a fat f***" after throwing him out.
  - Nico Hoerner, at bat, confirms Rushing said it:
    "I wish I had confronted him. I was pretty taken aback." (07:38)
- Umpire Dispute
  - Rushing strikes out on a pitch clock violation after apparently being denied a timely timeout. Hosts agree his frustration seems justified here (08:00).
Summary of Behavior: "Is this just kind of casual for him?... He seems to celebrate any accomplishment on the field by cursing out guys and insulting them." – Ben Lindbergh (08:47)

3. The Psychology and Impact of Redassery

What Drives Rushing's Attitude?
- Possibility: He's playing well for the first time at the big league level (244 wRC+ / 7 HRs in 15 games), feeling bolder and more self-assured (09:13).
- Ben notes he was barely noticed last year as a backup, with poor offensive numbers and limited opportunity.
- Quote:
  "Of all the superstars on the Dodgers, he's one of the more anonymous guys… and a lot of those guys are not super aggro. I mean, Freddie Freeman, Shohei Ohtani… they're not treating opponents like this. So it's a little bit much for me." – Ben Lindbergh (10:15)
Is It Performance-Enhancing—or a Liability?
- Some athletes, Ben notes, "fuel themselves on affronts or perceived affronts," sometimes inventing slights to stay motivated (13:30).
- But, being perpetually angry can burn a player out or become a distraction—especially if they're not producing (14:35–15:14).

4. Perspective on Emotional Expression in Baseball

Meg’s Take:
"There's doing your feelings and then there's having your feelings at someone. And as soon as the focus shifts to other people, you do have new obligations… Mostly I just wish that guys could sometimes react to good things… in a way that read legibly as excitement and happiness rather than the big anger reaction." (12:01)
Suggests that Rushing seems "a little big for [his] britches"; at 25, he should focus more on respect, especially toward union "brothers."

5. How Does This Play with Fans and Teammates?

Appeal to Fans:
"Sometimes this can endear you to a fanbase because he's our 'red ass'… you hate that guy when he's playing for other teams, but when he's your guy and he's sticking it to your opponents—and importantly, he's hitting—then you’re thinking, okay, fine." – Ben Lindbergh (15:34)
Limits to Tolerance:
"Even most Dodgers fans… I don't know that they would necessarily be cursing Jung Hoo Lee when he's down and possibly hurt. He didn't do anything. What did he do?" – Ben Lindbergh (16:12)
Humor and Metaphor:
- Meg jokes about "ass colored glasses" vs. "rose colored glasses" and compares Rushing to a "baby with diaper rash" for whom Dodgers fans might feel responsible (16:44).
- "You'll take care of your own baby's diaper rash… but Dalton is 25, so yeah, he can wipe." – Meg Rowley (17:29)

6. Philosophical Sidebars

Personal Preference for Athlete Temperaments:
- Ben explains he prefers players like Bernie Williams ("placid and serene"), and Shohei Ohtani (talented and unfailingly courteous), over perpetual aggro types like Paul O’Neill or, now, Dalton Rushing (22:22–23:08).
- Meg agrees, distinguishing between fiery competitiveness within the rules and outright hostility or disrespect.
Room for the Heel?:
"Baseball and sports generally, there's a place for the heel… but not the cheating part, hopefully… I think if you're, you know, have a more sort of fiery base personality, that's fine. You don't have to be a dick to people." – Meg Rowley (25:11–26:51)

7. Closing Reflections

Both hosts urge perspective and maturity, with Meg admonishing: "Tighten up, buddy." (22:14)
Ultimately, time will tell if Rushing’s attitude is a quirk, a phase, a strategic choice, or a true liability—or all of the above (22:22).

Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

"If you're gonna wear it, you don't say anything about it, buddy… you keep those thoughts on the inside of your brain."
– Meg Rowley (03:31)
"You appear to be indifferent to the potential suffering of others and kind of a jerk in circumstances that don't merit it. So yeah, tighten up, buddy."
– Meg Rowley (22:14)
“I tend to gravitate toward, you know, Bernie Williams was my favorite player. Now it's like I liked Paul O’Neill when I was a kid too… But Bernie was my main man because he presented as just placid and serene and always just competent and clutch and just like different from the typical baseball player.”
– Ben Lindbergh (23:08)
On Dave Roberts’ Response:
"Don't be confused, young man. I do not have your back in any of this."
– Meg Rowley paraphrasing Roberts' public stance (06:04)

Quick Red Sox Leadership Update (Towards End, ~27:45–33:56)

Ben and Meg briefly discuss The Athletic’s in-depth postmortem on Red Sox boss Craig Breslow, focusing on anonymous reports of poor people management, "lack of feel," and a house-cleaning approach to staffing—despite Breslow’s own playing background.
The lesson: Feel and communication matter, even for front office hires with a playing pedigree.

Episode Structure—Important Timestamps

Defining "red ass": 00:33–02:25
Dalton Rushing incident #1 (Rockies): 02:25–04:20
Rushing vs. Giants & Jung Hoo Lee: 04:20–06:00
Hard slide retaliation, Cubs/Amaya incident: 06:00–08:00
Pitch clock dispute: 07:59–09:02
Reflection on Rushing’s play/career: 09:13–10:38
Psychology of athletic motivation: 13:20–14:37
Fan/teammate perception: 15:34–16:16
Baseball temperament discourse: 22:22–25:21
Red Sox front office segment: 27:45–33:56

Overall Tone & Takeaways

The conversation is a mix of bemusement, gentle scolding, and sociological reflection.
Both hosts balance their desire for baseball personality and drama with a strong preference for respect and boundaries.
The running gag of “ass metaphors” (ass-colored glasses, diaper rash) keeps the tone light even when discussing serious issues of sportsmanship.
The episode is a must-listen (or read) for Dodgers fans, baseball culture observers, or anyone interested in how personality and perception shape the modern game.

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Transcript

Mitch (0:01)

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Ben Lindbergh (0:19)

Hello and welcome to episode 2473 of Effectively Wild, a baseball podcast from Fangraphs, presented by our Patreon supporters. I am Ben Lindbergh of the Ringer, joined by Mick Riley of fangraphts. Hello, Nick.

Mitch (0:32)

Hello, Meg.

Ben Lindbergh (0:33)

There's a new red ass in town. I think MLB has a new reigning red S. For anyone who's unfamiliar with the term, I will read.

Mitch (0:46)

What's red?

Ben Lindbergh (0:47)

No, maybe not as far as we

Mitch (0:48)

know, but we can't speak to that part.

Ben Lindbergh (0:50)

I guess it's. It's how one might act if one's. But were red and that we're causing discomfort. Is that the etymology of this?

Mitch (0:57)

I don't. You know what? I don't want to know the answer

Ben Lindbergh (1:00)

to that because better not to know.

Mitch (1:02)

Could be, you know, it could go bad in a couple of different directions. That feels. Feels like it could be problematic. We don't.

Ben Lindbergh (1:09)

Dixon Baseball dictionary defines red ass as a tough, angry, intense player. A player who plays hard. A raging competitor who hates to lose.

Mitch (1:19)

A raging competition. The word I thought was going to come after ra.

Ben Lindbergh (1:24)

Yeah, well, it's not the. The word that a lot of people would use, probably. And yeah, Mark Kerrig wrote a piece about redassery at the Athletics several years ago and talked to players how they would define it, and I will link to that, et cetera. But it goes back quite a ways. I mean, the red ass has been with us for almost a century or so. The actual red ass has been with us a lot longer. But the terminology, probably time immemorial. As long as there have been human beings, there have been red asses. But red butts, the baseball red ass. I think, yes, it's all those things in the Dixon dictionary, but I think there is also. There's an element of unreasonability to it.

Ben Lindbergh (27:45)

Just not so much the angry red ass ones, but, you know, in moderation, just not quite like this. Anyway, speaking of, of Bregman, he was quoted in an article I read at the Athletic with four bylines. And you know, it's serious when you've got four bylines on the athletic report. And it is maybe the most in depth of the Boston firings postmortems. Yeah. Because we were talking to Alex earlier this week about, well, what's going to come out next and who's going to be saying what. So the Athletic has inside Craig Breslow's stunning Red Sox house cleaning quote. It's his show, bylined by chad Jennings, Jen McCaffrey, Patrick Mooney and Ken Rosenthal. And it is very much the airing the dirty laundry that we sort of forecasted would be coming. So lots of anonymous quotes from people who are or have been with the Red Sox, and then lots of Craig Breslow saying, no, that's not what I was thinking or that's not what I was doing. But yeah, basically it's. The takeaway is that according to these sources, Breslow, bad boss, annoying boss, lack of feel, got on people's nerves. And what I asked Alex about, which is, do you think that he was looking for a reason here, that he kind of wanted to install his own guys? And Alex didn't necessarily think that was the case. And Breslow denies that that's the case, but these sources say that that was the case. And, you know, maybe if they're the jilted, spurned, dismissed parties, then maybe they would think that. And that's something pretty to tell yourself. So it's never really conclusive with he said, he said, they said, he said whatever. But. But that's the basic dirt and takeaway is one source says he wanted to fire everybody who was here before he got here. That's what he has now. And he has conducted this purge, particularly of the hitting side. And Breslow, you know, there's some robotic business speak in here about how. No, it's not that. And I'm just. We're just reassessing constantly and, you know, nothing personal, it's just all objective and, you know, it's not in practice ever really like that either. So I'm sure the middle ground is somewhere in between. But yeah, it does sound like there was some annoying busy work going on, at least like it says at one point last year, according to people involved, Breslow asked the Red Sox coaching staff to begin documenting every pregame hitting and defensive drill done by each player, which some coaches found excessive and time consuming, further fueling a perceived lack of trust between the staff and the front office, which is probably familiar to anyone who has had a boss who got on their nerves at times. And it's just like the principles seem sort of sound like, let's track sure we are doing here so that we can evaluate it and see who's getting help and who's not getting help. So, yeah, I guess that makes sense on Some level, but then also, like, every interaction has to be measured and charted, and then how much paperwork is that? And that's constantly having to keep track of all that stuff. And maybe that takes you out of the moment, and is anyone actually going to be using that in any real way? So I don't know. We've all had that experience. Maybe the. The goal makes some sense, but the methods are just a bit onerous, perhaps. So it's really interesting that it's like, lack of feel is the knock against a guy who was a player for a long time, for the Red Sox, even. And so you would think that even if he is not the typical player, he would know how things would resonate with players or repel players. And maybe he knows and just doesn't care, but that has backfired.