Not Here

Summary

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Elevation with Steven Furtick

Episode: "Not Here"

Date: September 29, 2025
Host: Pastor Steven Furtick
Guest/Co-Pastor: Pastor Mickey

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Pastor Steven Furtick continues the "Same Lies, New Loops" series, diving deep into Psalm 120—one of the Songs of Ascent. The central theme, "Not Here," challenges the belief that God’s presence is only in the ‘mountaintop’ moments, emphasizing that God is equally present in the lows, and that spiritual life is full of both ascent and lament—sometimes in the very same moment. Furtick encourages listeners not to wait for perfect circumstances to praise or connect with God, but to recognize His faithfulness "in the millisecond" and to trust that He both hears prayers and holds their burdens, even before circumstances change.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Welcoming the Congregation & Setting the Scene

(Timestamp: 02:20)

• Pastor Mickey invites online and in-person attendees into a spirit of fellowship and worship, highlighting Elevation’s worldwide community.
• Light-hearted moments about seating arrangements (Ray in the "wrong" seat), setting an inclusive, energetic tone.

2. Glory, Weight, and Giving Credit to God

(Timestamp: 03:46)

• Steven shares: “I have a tattoo on my back that says kavad. It’s the Hebrew word for weight. W-E-I-G-H-T. And it also means glory. I found out when I try to take the glory for myself, I have to carry the weight myself. But when I give God the glory, I feel like I can move better. I feel like I can stand longer. I feel like I can make it.”

3. Introducing ‘Same Lies, New Loops’ & The Need for Mental Renewal

(Timestamp: 05:56)

• The cycle of negative, recurring thoughts—“loops”—is addressed.
• The renewal of the mind is described as a continual, "moment-by-moment decision," not a single transformative event.

4. Psalm 120 and the Songs of Ascent

(Timestamp: 07:53)

• Furtick unpacks Psalm 120, emphasizing the dual themes of "distress and ascent," and the tension of journeying upwards towards God while carrying real burdens.
• “This is a song of ascent...God has given us a song for every season.”
• Encourages the congregation: “You’re going up today.”

5. The Reality of Simultaneous Highs and Lows

(Timestamp: 14:04)

• Shares a personal parenting story with his son, Graham, whose 18th birthday inspired Furtick to cancel a planned Sunday off.
• Describes wrestling with anxiety over Graham’s future, until experiencing God's reassurance: "I’ve got Graham."
• Parallel is drawn between spiritual highs and lows, both in parenting and faith.

Quote:
“If you can look for God in the lows, you can only go so low. Because one psalm says, if I make my bed in Sheol, you are there.”
— Steven Furtick (15:56)

6. Ascent and Lament—Life’s Dual Realities

(Timestamp: 17:20)

• Furtick reflects: “While we are on our way up, we are weighed down... It’s the ascent and the lament all in the same song, all in the same room, all on the same row, all in the same mind.”

7. The Lie of ‘Not Here’—God’s Presence in All Places

(Timestamp: 20:40)

• Uses the illustration of a heartbeat (EKG) to show life is made up of peaks (mountains) and valleys—"Both of them are necessary for life to be present."
• Invites the congregation to see life as comprised of rapid shifts rather than neat seasons—encouraging, “Think seconds, not seasons…God can do a miracle in a millisecond.” (30:20)
• “You keep trying to handle things a season at a time when God says, I am the God who beats inside your heart.”

8. Navigating Spiritual Ups and Downs—Faith in the Middle Spaces

(Timestamp: 25:43, 28:13)

• Moving from spiritual mountaintops to valleys in a moment (e.g., joyful worship interrupted by a hurtful text).
• “In between the prayer and the answer is faith.” (26:06)

9. Trusting That God Hears & Holds You

(Timestamp: 34:01–45:53)

• Drawing from Psalm 120: “In my distress, I called to the Lord, and he answered me.”
• Explains that sometimes the "answer" is not an immediate solution but assurance that God hears—even if the "problem is still waiting at home."
• Introduces the concept of the "season called heard": “There is a space between prayed and answered called ‘heard.’”
• 1 John 5:14–15 is quoted as assurance that God hears prayers according to His will.

Quotes:

• “He heard me when I prayed, he heard me. He’s not hard of hearing.” — Steven Furtick (39:30)
• “Sometimes you keep asking him to take things away and he leaves them. He heard you. He just isn’t going to take it away right now because he’s going to teach you something with it.” — Pastor Mickey (40:37)

10. God Holds Both the Problem and the Answer

(Timestamp: 46:02–48:22)

• God keeps prayers and tears, even those unspoken, in His care: “The proof that he answered is that he came. He didn’t just give the answer—he is the answer.”
• Encourages trust even when “left on hold.”

11. Daily Practice—Praising God in Every Breath and Moment

(Timestamp: 48:22–53:53)

• Tells a story about comforting someone through grief: “One job—next breath.”
• The “God of Seasons is the God of seconds and milliseconds.”
• “As long as you’re breathing, I want you to know, God has Graham. God has you. God has this.”

12. Invitation to Worship in Every Circumstance

(Timestamp: 55:16)

• “What good is it for you to go to Jerusalem for a minute if you’re not going to invite God into the low places too?”

13. Resurrection Story—Finding God Where You Least Expect

(Timestamp: 56:51)

• Parallels Mary Magdalene at the empty tomb (John 20:11–17) to moments when God feels absent; encourages seeking God in unexpected places.

14. Illustrative and Relatable Stories

• Multiple personal and humorous stories (e.g., deciding not to respond with anger on the road, the middle finger story) make the message tangible, highlighting the challenge and opportunity of moment-by-moment mental renewal.

15. Key Takeaways—Summary Points

• He hears: God always hears prayer, even before we see results.
• He’s holding: God holds both our problems and our answered prayers.
• It’s Him: In every moment—high, low, or in between—God Himself is the answer.

Quote:
“Not only am I saying to every person who’s praying about a situation, he heard—everybody shout, he heard. And not only am I saying, he’s holding—everybody say, he’s holding it. He holds it all together, not you.” — Pastor Mickey (46:25)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On renewal: “The renewal of your mind is not a one-time event...You have to walk this out one moment at a time.” (27:00)
• On the everyday struggle: “Most of us are one spilled cup of coffee on our khaki britches away from saying the name of the Lord in a different way.” (32:43)
• On faith over certainty: “If you can go from the mountain to the valley in a millisecond, I wonder, can God bring you from the valley?” (33:08)
• On parenting and trusting God: “What else are you going to do with your kid but give them back to God?” (44:24)
• On Christ as the answer: “The proof that he answered isn’t that the problem went away. The proof that he answered is that he came. He didn’t just give the answer. He is the answer.” (47:00)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 02:20 — Welcoming congregation and setting an inclusive tone
• 03:46 — "Kavad": glory and weight, giving God the credit
• 05:56 — Introducing mental loops and mind renewal
• 07:53 — Psalm 120 and the Songs of Ascent
• 14:04 — Story about Graham, parenting, and trusting God
• 17:20 — Understanding ascent and lament in the Christian walk
• 20:40 — The ‘heartbeat’ metaphor—mountains, valleys, and spiritual rhythm
• 25:43 — Spiritual highs and lows—navigating transitions
• 30:20 — "Think seconds, not seasons": the God of milliseconds
• 34:01 — Psalm 120: God hears prayers before the answer comes
• 39:30 — Assurance that God hears (1 John 5)
• 46:02 — God holding both problems and prayers
• 48:22 — Pastoral advice in grief: "one job—next breath"
• 55:16 — Invitation to worship regardless of circumstances
• 56:51 — Mary at the tomb—finding God in unexpected places

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Conclusion & Call to Action

Steven Furtick closes by reminding listeners that God’s presence is constant, not just at the mountaintops but in every valley, every breath, every moment—He hears, He’s holding, and above all, it is Him who is with you. Listeners are encouraged to abandon the lie that God is only present when life is good ("not here") and instead adopt a new loop: unwavering confidence that God hears and holds—always, everywhere.

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For further inspiration, listeners are encouraged to revisit Psalm 120 and 1 John 5:14-15, examine their own "loops," and invite God into each millisecond—trusting that both ascent and lament are sacred ground.

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[Steven Furtick]

Hey, this is Steven Furtick. I'm the pastor of Elevation Church and this is our podcast. I wanted to thank you for joining us today. Hope this inspires you. Hope it builds your faith. Hope it gives you perspective to see God is moving in your life. Enjoy the message.

[Pastor Mickey]

I want you to give out 10 hugs all around you. Make everybody in your section feel so welcome. Tell them I'm so glad you're in church today. Roll call. Who made it online right now. Let us know your name, your country. I'm pulling out my phone. I'm checking the roll. A ray's in the house, front row. Good to see you. A Ray man, what are you doing over there? That's not your seat.

[Steven Furtick]

He never sits there. What are you doing?

[Pastor Mickey]

Yeah, how did you get over there?

[Steven Furtick]

It is going to throw off the entire cosmic balance of my preaching if you are sitting there instead of there. I'm not telling the person down there to trade seats with you. But you have big shoes to fill right there. Yeah, in the jersey. In the Washington Commanders jersey.

[Pastor Mickey]

Big shoes to fill.

[Steven Furtick]

That's my guy right there.

[Pastor Mickey]

But apparently he's holding it down on this side today. So who do I have over here on this side of the room? Come on. Who came to worship God, get a word from him, hear from him, worship him, glorify him, put our attention on him. Feels good to give God all the glory, doesn't it?

[Steven Furtick]

I have a tattoo on my back that says kavad. It's the Hebrew word for weight. W E I G H T. And it also means glory. I found out when I try to take the glory for myself, I have to carry the weight myself. But when I give God the glory, I feel like I can move better. I feel like I can stand longer. I feel like I can make it. All right, a few shout outs for online. Y' all remain standing. Forgive us if we're a little loopy. It kind of goes along with my series. We're talking about same lies, new loops. We're a little loopy because we just recorded 13 songs of brand new worship melodies and anthems.

[Pastor Mickey]

I'm so excited. That's one of them.

[Steven Furtick]

Call God, Jesus be the name. Just so much good stuff we're going to be putting in your ears, in your heart, in your life, in your car. Going to be playing these songs in your kid's nursery. Some of y' all have a kid on the way in 2026. I have some anthems coming for your baby. Some of y' all are going to.

[Pastor Mickey]

Be pushing that baby out to one.

[Steven Furtick]

Of these new songs. I prophesy it right now. It's going to be good, too. You're going to be calling God and calling on everything. It's going to be really good. All right, shout outs from Adam from Oklahoma, Priscilla from Texas. Someone's joined. Someone came to church from Kenya today. Praise the Lord. Kenya, Cape Town, Palestine, Madagascar, Cape Cod, Chicago. Of all the places I've said, which one would you most like to go to if you could be transported right now? I read a few more. Where else? Somebody said, just not here. That's horrible out here. Lewis. Hello, Lewis. Hello from Maryland. Anyway, you get the point. Let's welcome our efam all over the world. Those watching at a later time.

[Pastor Mickey]

I want to get Right into the word, if it's all right with you.

[Steven Furtick]

Praise the Lord. The Lord spoke something to my heart. For our next installment on Same Lies, New loops. Show them my graphic real quick. It kind of looks like an infinity loop. Zoom out so everybody can see it at the campuses, please. No, not that. Took my thunder there. Praise the Lord. I'm trying to get you out of these things that go on in your mind that keep you from meeting with God and keep you from believing what he says about you. To do that, we have to get you out of the thought patterns. The renewal of your mind is not a one time event. Salvation is. Jesus saves you. It's done, it's paid for, it's finished. But the renewal of your mind is not a one time event. It is a moment by moment decision. When we get into God's Word, when we worship God like you've done today, go ahead and give yourself a hand because you made a new loop today. As you were worshiping God, you were joining the angels around the throne of God singing, holy, holy, holy. Today. For this installment, the Lord led me to Psalm 120. We've been sharing from a lot of the Psalms because the Psalms speak to the heart in such a unique way. This is one of 15 Psalms that is categorized as a song of ascent. Ascent meaning going up. Literally, they would be sung as the people were going up, up to Jerusalem for their pilgrimage to worship the Lord for all of the different feasts they would celebrate. Some were written by David, some by his son Solomon, and some by an unknown author. They were designed to be sung not only along the way, but on those 15 steps going up to the temple. And there were 15 of them. So it's really beautiful sometimes to understand that God has given us a song for every season. This is a song of ascent. Go ahead and tell your neighbor. Just go ahead and prophesy over them. Say you're going up today. Put it in the chat. Say, I'm going up today. A song of ascents. How many of you have your Bible and it says that over the heading, it says a song of ascents, right? So here's what he says. In my distress, I called to the Lord and he answered me, y' all don't have anything. You're happy that God answered you about not one thing, not even just. You had peanut butter in the pantry this week and you wanted it and.

[Pastor Mickey]

You put it on that cracker and.

[Steven Furtick]

It tasted really good and it didn't get stuck on the roof of your mouth.

[Pastor Mickey]

Come on, how many have at least one thing God did for you.

[Steven Furtick]

Praise the Lord, he said, in my distress, I called to the Lord, and he answered me. I'm going to read the full psalm for context. He says, deliver me, O Lord, from lying lips, from a deceitful tongue. Same lies, new loops. Verse 3. What shall be given to you, and what more shall be done to you, you, deceitful tongue? A warrior's sharp arrows with glowing coals of the broom tree. Woe to me that I sojourn in Meshech, that I dwell among the tents of Kedar. Too long have I had my dwelling among those who hate peace. Wow. Does that verse mean you should delete Instagram? I don't know. Too long have I had my dwelling among those who hate peace. I am for peace, but when I speak, they are for war. Go back to verse one now that you've heard the whole thing, and let's make a loop. In my distress, I called to the Lord, and he answered me. Today I'm going to talk about the lie the devil has been telling you. This message is called not here, not here. Just reach around and tell seven people on your way to your seat. Not here, not here. You may be seated. Not here. Oh, I want to tell you why I'm here today, why I'm in the pulpit today. You're like, isn't it your job? Well, not every single Sunday. I would have scheduled this Sunday off because of all of the intensive labor around our songwriting. But number one, I thought, if the team is going to be here, I'm going to be here. But number two, I thought you needed this next word in the series, and I didn't want the devil to disrupt the flow of what we're doing, because I really feel like we've got some momentum and I'm really hearing testimonies. I really feel like there's something special he's doing in some of our minds and delivering us from the devil that keeps us from making decisions and keeps us from rejoicing and keeps us depressed. So I wanted to keep that going. But thirdly, I'm here because it's my son Graham's 18th birthday today. Occasionally, I tell a little bit about our family because of a scripture. Paul said we were delighted not only to share the gospel of God with you, but our lives as well. In this pulpit, a lot of times I get things wrong, but I'm willing to do that sometimes, because if I never get it wrong, I can never get it real. I also share from my own heart and My own life of the things I'm processing, as well as what the Bible says about other people's process. Graham found out I was going to take this week off because of the scheduling of our recording so I could focus on that. He said, wait a minute. Sunday the 28th is my birthday. Mom said, we can get a guest. Graham said, no guest. It's my birthday. We started naming some of his favorite preachers and said, well, we could have. And we named them. And he said, no, no, no, no, no. Holly even said, how about if I preach? And Graham goes, it's my 18th birthday. I want dad.

[Pastor Mickey]

So, Graham, you got me. Whatever happens, we're in this together. If the ship goes down, come help me bail some water.

[Steven Furtick]

He wanted me, and he got me. There was a moment a few years ago in Graham's life where, as every parent does, I was teetering on the edge of not trusting God because as he was starting to move into manhood, I started to worry about the temptations. It's one thing to protect your kids. It's one thing to pray for your kids. It's another thing to become so possessive about your kids that you don't realize they were God's before they were yours. We all can relate to that, either as a child or a parent. All the kids are like, did you hear that, Mom? I am God's.

[Pastor Mickey]

God.

[Steven Furtick]

Said I could come home at 12:30, not 11:30. Don't use my sermon like a weapon. Later, I was sitting down one Saturday to prepare a sermon for our church. I was so worried about Graham. Not because he had done anything wrong. It was just that transitional season. Remember I taught you last week, when you vent about a situation without God in it, you start to invent scenarios in your head. Nothing was really even wrong yet. There was just the possibility of him getting on a bad path. And it started to possess my mind. The Lord spoke to me. What do you mean when you say that? It was an impression that was louder than a conversation. It was an impression that was deeper than a text message. All I felt from God was that he said, I've got Graham. It was a short sentence, but I knew I heard it. I've got Graham. Immediately, a flood of peace filled my heart, my soul. I got back to work. Since that day, he has not sinned. I can't say that, but it's funny. You said, I get dad on my birthday, and God told me, I got Graham. You know, he's doing pretty good, y'. All. He's doing pretty good. Started a Little Bible study. He's doing pretty good. Now I'm getting emotional, and I'm forgetting the outline of my message. Will y' all pray for me, please? That I could just preach this from Psalm 120. He started a Bible study in the house, and about 6 to 8 of y' all would come over, right? And he started recruiting me on Sunday nights to come teach it a little bit. And you talk about Lupi. After I preached on Sunday, I definitely don't know Hebrew and Greek words. I can barely speak English. So I go up there and try to help the boys. When you're talking to high school boys, it really revolves around a few struggles over and over again, what they're dealing with. One of those conversations that comes up is, how do I deal with the times when I have a spiritual high, but then it goes away? How do I keep the spiritual high? Well, of course, I told this person who asked this question, I'm not interested in teaching you to keep the high. I want to teach you how to look for God in the lows. Because if you can look for him in the lows, you can only go so low. Because one psalm says, if I make my bed in Sheol, you are there. If I make my bed in hell, you are there. Where shall I go from your presence? Where shall I ascend? If I ascend to the heavens, you are there. If I descend to hell, you are there. If I say, surely the darkness will cover thee, surely light will become as night to thee. For you are there, your presence is everywhere. So I want you to look for God. The contrast we have in Psalm 120, why I thought it would be so great for us to study together today, is because on one hand, this psalmist is going up. He's going up to Jerusalem. Jerusalem is in the mountain region. So to go to Jerusalem, you go up every time. A song of ascent. He's singing a song of ascent as he's going up. But it's also a song of lament, which is grief. He's on his way, headed up to worship. But there is something that is weighing him down as he walks. Every single person who is here in this room today, on your way up to worship, on your way up to lift your hands and praise God on your way over here, there was something that was weighing you down. It's surprising you don't have a flat tire from all the weight that was in the car. With the tension that is in your family and the tension that is in your heart and the tension of Your faith and your frustration. I got this picture that we all like, the psalmist. While we are on our way up, we are weighed down. I want to tell you, Graham, and I want to tell you, my friend, that's normal. Learning to live with this. It's the ascent and the lament all in the same song, all in the same room, all on the same row, all in the same mind. I could get you to think about something right now that would make you so happy. You would start dancing. You would even forget that you don't know how to dance. You would forget you don't have any rhythm.

[Pastor Mickey]

I saw some of y' all doing it during Hallelujah.

[Steven Furtick]

I saw it. It got you so happy.

[Pastor Mickey]

We started thinking about God and how he deserves the praise and so happy. Then I could mention something else.

[Steven Furtick]

If I really knew you, if I.

[Pastor Mickey]

Could really get in your life for five minutes, I could say, say something else. And you would be so heavy.

[Steven Furtick]

Your hands would drop, your head would drop, your heart would fall out.

[Pastor Mickey]

Because as I'm on the way up.

[Steven Furtick]

It doesn't mean I'm not weighed down. I never praise God because my situation is perfect.

[Pastor Mickey]

To wait for a perfect situation, to praise God. To wait for a perfect situation, to have peace, that's a setup for the enemy. If you procrastinate your praise or your peace until your situation is perfect, you'll never get the peace. Because I'm on my way up and I'm way down.

[Steven Furtick]

It was different in his time. Listen to some of the things he was dealing with. He said, deliver me, O Lord, from lying lips. Back in the Bible times, they had liars.

[Pastor Mickey]

You know, we've evolved as a species.

[Steven Furtick]

But in those days, there were rampant lies. You couldn't even tell what was truth.

[Pastor Mickey]

And what was a lie. You couldn't even tell if it was.

[Steven Furtick]

Their real voice or not, or if it was really their lips moving.

[Pastor Mickey]

Graham showed me a picture the other.

[Steven Furtick]

Day or a video of some lion jumping to the sky, snatching a baby.

[Pastor Mickey]

Lion from a bird of prey. He's like, dad, why are you crying? It was about praying moms jumping up.

[Steven Furtick]

And grabbing their young from the.

[Pastor Mickey]

From the talons of the enemy. He saw a tear in my eyes. He said, dad, that's AI you are crying at AI. That's not real. But it was powerful and it was good. You should look it up. When I'm done preaching, I don't even know what's real anymore. The man said, on one hand, watch this. I'm going up. On one Hand, there are good things happening in my life. On one hand, I'm kind of excited about this new relationship. On one hand, I'm kind of excited. Excited about what? I sense that God might be moving around. But on the other hand, there is something heavy. I'm on the way up and I'm way down.

[Steven Furtick]

I'm on my way to the house of God. But there's something waiting for me at home that I have to deal with. Let me illustrate this with a picture. I thought of. How do I break this down not only for Graham's Bible study. Who's wondering, how do I stay in the youth camp energy year round?

[Pastor Mickey]

You know, kind of all of us.

[Steven Furtick]

Wish we could live in that youth camp energy all year round. Or at the very least, at the Sunday morning energy year round. If we would all be as nice to each other in our vehicles as.

[Pastor Mickey]

We are in this church, what would.

[Steven Furtick]

The world be like? It doesn't take much to get you acting like you are not a Christian, does it? All I have to do is put you in four doors with some glass and aluminum, and you forget all about the presence. The Lord is everywhere except your car. And in that space, all is forgiven. I thought about it like this. I thought about the song we were singing earlier. We have this song that says, I call God on the mountain. I call God in the valley. I call God on the good days. Don't forget those. Sometimes the moments of our victory make us more vulnerable than the moments of our defeat. Sometimes in the moment of defeat, you're dependent on God. Sometimes in the moments of your victory, you pretend like he wasn't the one who gave it to you. So it's a great song. Are y' all enjoying singing it? I call God on the mountain. I call God in the bath. Then we name everything where you could call God, because you could call him anywhere. You could put anything in there with two syllables. It'll sing good. I call God in the kitchen. I call God in the bathroom. You can't say that. Yes, you can say that.

[Pastor Mickey]

The Lord can go where he wants.

[Steven Furtick]

To and he can do what he wants.

[Pastor Mickey]

He gave me a lot of sermons in the bathroom.

[Steven Furtick]

I call God everywhere.

[Pastor Mickey]

I call God in the shower.

[Steven Furtick]

Some of us, that's the only place.

[Pastor Mickey]

We sound good singing, so we might as well call him in there, right?

[Steven Furtick]

But here's what I wanted to show you. I wanted to show you that the mountain and the valleys look like this. If you ever go, just put the first graphic, please. Okay. Yeah. No, not that One, guys. The first one. Hold on, hold on. Do the other one. We'll do it like that. That's fine. If you go into a hospital and they check your heartbeat.

[Pastor Mickey]

And it looks like that.

[Steven Furtick]

The good news is you're not going to be in the hospital very long. You're going somewhere else. But that's an ekg. This is the one I wanted him to put up first because this is normal. This is a normal heartbeat. I am going to say as little about this as possible because there are nurses and doctors who go to my church, and I don't want you to judge me. Basically, it's telling me about the heartbeat, and it's EKG and those waves. You see those peaks and those valleys? That's what life looks like. Yeah.

[Pastor Mickey]

Y' all see point R?

[Steven Furtick]

I call God on the mountain, but do you see point S? I call God in the. Come on, be the choir, y'.

[Pastor Mickey]

All.

[Steven Furtick]

Both of them are necessary for life to be present.

[Pastor Mickey]

The ascent and the lament. I had one just the other day.

[Steven Furtick]

You know how it happens. You're feeling so good, and you're feeling so much God. And it takes one text message.

[Pastor Mickey]

1.

[Steven Furtick]

This is how strong my faith is. One text message. I can go from trusting God to wanting to tear into some. Okay, I'm going to come back behind the pulpit.

[Pastor Mickey]

I can go from, everything is so wonderful, and I love my neighbor, and I love you, Jesus. In fact, I think I was singing and working on a worship lyric when the text came through. As I'm looking for the lyric, here comes a text, a mean text, a nasty text, an unnecessary text. And all of a sudden, I felt the bottom drop out just like that. I'm like, where did you go, God?

[Steven Furtick]

For the next hour? It got in my head, has this.

[Pastor Mickey]

Ever happened to you?

[Steven Furtick]

Y' all are looking at me so confused.

[Pastor Mickey]

Just so quick, just so offended. I was so offended. I was having this moment with God and then, boom, dropped down.

[Steven Furtick]

Put it back up there real quick, y'. All.

[Pastor Mickey]

I went from R to S just like that. Have you ever gone from R to S just like that? I used to think God was R.

[Steven Furtick]

And the devil was S. But I.

[Pastor Mickey]

Found out that in between the prayer.

[Steven Furtick]

And the answer is faith.

[Pastor Mickey]

Faith is the substance of things hoped.

[Steven Furtick]

For and the evidence of things not seen.

[Pastor Mickey]

You don't see your heart beating.

[Steven Furtick]

That's what the readout is showing you.

[Pastor Mickey]

That you're still here. Your heart is beating while I'm talking.

[Steven Furtick]

And you're still here. There are peaks and valleys in your Life. While you are journeying and sojourning through this pilgrim experience of being a human being, a person, you keep thinking it's.

[Pastor Mickey]

Not normal and you keep thinking you're.

[Steven Furtick]

Broken because you think Christianity is always riding the high.

[Pastor Mickey]

But the moment you learn that the God who is the God of this is the God of that, this is what life looks like. It looks like I'm headed up in one area and I'm way down in another. I'm headed up in one area and I'm way down in another. I have one foot up and I have one foot down. I'm doing better with my health, but I'm doing worse in my mind. I'm doing better with my money, but I'm doing worse with my time. Here I am thinking there's something wrong with me when God wanted me to know that both steps are ordered by the Lord. The one here, the one there. They are both ordered by the Lord. Bring me my teaching screen. I have to teach you about this because the enemy wants you to think God is here, but not here. But without here, here does not happen. This message is designed to help you with your mind today because you keep thinking, what's wrong with me that it keeps dropping out? What's wrong with me that I keep having to fight for this? What's wrong with me that I keep having to relearn the same lessons. The transformation and renewal of your mind is not a one time event. You have to walk this out. You have to walk this out. You have to walk this out one moment at a time.

[Steven Furtick]

Another thing I found out. Put the chart back up. Not only are both of those important for my heart to be, not only are both of those important for me to know God as my shepherd in the valley so I can praise him as my provider on the mountain, but all of those things are happening at the same time. We used to talk about seasons of blessing and seasons of burdens, like praise God on the mountain and call God on the mountain. And then when God is blessing you in season, then when you're in the valley season. If I went around the room today and I asked, are you in a mountain season or a valley season? The only answer that would be appropriate is yes. So let's try it. Class, are you in a mountain season or a valley season? You mean you can go from the valley to the mountain in a moment? With a text, with a thought?

[Pastor Mickey]

Put the thing back up, y'. All, I am so not done with this yet. There's so much in this I Don't.

[Steven Furtick]

Know if the other campuses can see. I'm directing the cameras today. I have to get this word across. There is something to be said for seasons where God answers your prayers and you're looking at it. There's something to be said for seasons when you see no proof that he heard your prayer and you're going by faith, not sight. But what I realized looking at that heartbeat is that those events are not months apart. Those are moments apart. See, I thought God would bless you really good for about a month and you'll be on the mountain for a month. But God doesn't bless you a month at a time. He blesses you a moment at a time.

[Pastor Mickey]

It is not only the season.

[Steven Furtick]

We need to celebrate and not only the seasons. We need to be strategic. The Lord said to tell you, think seconds, not seasons. Seconds, not seasons seconds.

[Pastor Mickey]

As a matter of fact, this chart.

[Steven Furtick]

That is on the screen right now, this chart is showing you what happens not in one second in your heart, but in a millisecond.

[Pastor Mickey]

I had to study that. I know some certain things. I know that a season is made.

[Steven Furtick]

Up of about three months. I know that a month is made up of about four weeks.

[Pastor Mickey]

I know that a week is made up of about seven days. I know that a day is made up of.

[Steven Furtick]

Well, not about seven days, exactly seven days.

[Pastor Mickey]

Let's be clear about it. Those days are made up of 24 hours. And an hour is made up of.

[Steven Furtick]

60 minutes, and a minute is made.

[Pastor Mickey]

Up of 60 seconds. But to get to a millisecond, I had to find out that is 1/1,000th of a second that makes up a minute. That makes up an hour, that makes up a day. That makes up a week. That makes up a month. That makes up a season. You keep trying to handle things a season at a time when God says, I am the God who beats inside of your heart. Not every second. Take that second and slice it down to a thousand. I am in every millisecond. The reason I praise him isn't because I'm on the mountain nonstop, but it's that God can do a miracle in a millisecond. Yeah, I said it. I have a millisecond miracle working way, making covenant, keeping, never leaving, never forsaking God. Give your neighbor five high fives and tell him he could do it in a millisecond. Doesn't this make sense to us? Don't we know now what? Wow. I could go from the mountain up here to the valley. And for everybody who's Self righteous. I bless the Lord at all times. His praise shall continually be on my mouth. Okay, Moses, when you come off the mountain, make sure you cover your face because you're not always shining. I can interview your family members and find out more details if I need to, but please be honest. I'm on the mountain for a minute, but most of us are one spilled cup of coffee on our khaki britches away from saying the name of the Lord in a different way. Because it is not a one time event.

[Steven Furtick]

If you can go from the mountain to the valley in a millisecond, I wonder, can God bring you from the valley?

[Pastor Mickey]

Come on, let's turn this thing around. Think of the goodness of Jesus and all that he has done for you and command your soul cry out, hallelujah. Thank you God for saving me. Yeah, come on, baseball team. Praise God with me. I'm glad you're in the house. You had to be here. God wanted you to get this word. So what it is when you're here, you're like, oh, that's God.

[Steven Furtick]

Back to Psalm 120.

[Pastor Mickey]

I am not going to get to all this all week unless y' all would like to stay until about 3pm.

[Steven Furtick]

That did not sound convincing. I plan on wrapping up. He said, in my distress, I called to the Lord and he answered me. Past tense, circle answered. Justin. How did he do that? He's not even here in this room. But he hears what I said. Even though I can't see him. He can do what I asked him to do from a room where I cannot see him with my eyes. He said, I called to the Lord and I couldn't see him. But he answered me. Past tense. Well, if he answered you, then what is verse 2 all about? Deliver me, O Lord, from lying lips, from a deceitful tongue. Why does he say in verse one, he answered me. And go on through the next six verses to describe a problem that is still waiting for him at home. I'll tell you next week. Y' all want it today? I'm not like the Lord. I won't make your weight. All right, the lie is this. You know God is with you. But the devil wants you in this loop, not here. Now, in the Old Testament, the temple was in Jerusalem. We are the temple of the Spirit of God. Now, God is not in this room until you show up. Yes, he is. He's in the empty room. You know what I mean? God does not fill buildings. He fills people. But in the Old Testament construct, the glory of the Lord would Fill the temple. So they had to go to a location to worship. Now get the contrast with me. He's going, I'm headed here to worship. But I'm holding some stuff as I do. I'm in between a battle and a blessing all in one heartbeat. You keep thinking the season is going to change and it's going to be all mountains. I hope not, because then you're dead. Then your faith will flatline. God is going to give you some of these, and he's going to give you some of these. You will have to learn to praise him and worship him in the same heartbeat beat that your heart is broken and praise him and call him holy. Anyway, the enemy will say, not here. You can't praise him here. Not in this hospital, not in this prison, not in this rehab. When you get out, you can give a testimony. You can give a testimony right now. Because he's the master of the millisecond. When I put it online, I might call it the master of the millisecond. He doesn't just command the times and the seasons in creation from eternity. Not only is call and response built into the cadence of creation, but in this moment, in this heart, he's showing me I'm all of it. I reveal myself in the rhythms of the ups, the downs, the ebbs, the flows, the yeses, the noes, the leavings, the comings. I'm in all of it. It's all me. I'm in all of it. The devil will say, well, God is not in this. Not here, not here. When he says not here, have your confidence like the psalmist did. What's so beautiful about the psalm is that he says, God answered my prayer, but he doesn't even see the proof yet. The answer is in past tense, but the trouble is in present tense. But he knows. Watch this. Here's your new loop. The devil is telling me God is not here. But I tell the devil he heard last week I preached on, he answered, isn't that wonderful? When the Lord answers. When you see your kid leading a Bible study, it's a beautiful thing. But between the prayer and the Bible study is a stage called he heard. I don't have the answer yet. It's not here. The answer isn't here. I'm speaking to somebody today and the answer isn't here. The healing isn't here. The result isn't here. The reconciliation isn't here. The proof isn't here. The enemy keeps trying to tell you what's not here. But in this moment, it is so vital and important for the health of your heart and the life of your. Of your faith that every time the enemy points to an area and says, God didn't do that yet. How can you trust him? That hasn't happened yet. And you are not whole. This is not complete yet. So you cannot call yourself a real Christian. Every time he says, not here, you remind yourself, but he hears me. When I pray.

[Pastor Mickey]

He heard me. When I prayed, he heard me. He's not hard of hearing.

[Steven Furtick]

God hears me.

[Pastor Mickey]

He heard me.

[Steven Furtick]

There is a space between prayed and answered, called heard. When you know God hears you, you have confidence.

[Pastor Mickey]

1 John 4:14 15 says something very interesting. That if we know. 1 John 5:14 says something very interesting. This is the confidence we have in approaching God. If we ask anything according to his will. Shout it. He hears us. Let's read it again. If we have confidence in approaching God, we ask anything according to his will. He hears us.

[Steven Furtick]

I can't hear you up here. Say it again.

[Pastor Mickey]

He hears us better than Siri. He hears us better than the people advertising to you on your phone. When you're talking about lawnmowers and all of a sudden a weed eater shows up on your phone. He hears us. That's why God spoke to me when I was praying. He said, I've got Graham. But he did not tell me the timeline. He did not tell me there wouldn't be lows. Nobody knows what the future holds. Nobody knows what there will be in the next season. But I'm not serving God season by season. I'm serving him step by step, second by second. Since he's the master of the millisecond, I can trust him right now and know that he heard me tell three people. He heard you tell them. He heard you the first time. I'm going to say that again. He heard you the first time. Sometimes you keep asking him to take things away and he leaves them. He heard you. He just isn't going to take it away right now because he's going to teach you something with it. After he gets done teaching you with.

[Steven Furtick]

It, you will thank him for it. But that does not mean it's fun.

[Pastor Mickey]

To go through the season called heard. Have you ever left somebody unread on a text message?

[Steven Furtick]

Have you ever left somebody unheard in a conversation?

[Pastor Mickey]

My family picks on Holly all the time.

[Steven Furtick]

They'll say, mom will leave you unheard.

[Pastor Mickey]

Meaning they're just asking her what they want, telling her what they want. Like she's an Uber driver telling her what they want. Like she's some kind of servant to their every desire. And she's just looking right back at them. And they'll say, mom will leave you unheard. I'm thinking to myself, it's not that.

[Steven Furtick]

She didn't hear you. It's just that she doesn't have to.

[Pastor Mickey]

She doesn't have to do everything you ask. Look at 1 John 5:15. This is powerful. The Bible says if we know that he hears us, whatever we ask, we know. We have what we ask of him. But verse 14 gives a condition.

[Steven Furtick]

It says if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us. This is the part we don't know because we think this is always his will. What if this is too?

[Pastor Mickey]

Thank you so much. You don't know how much I needed that encouragement.

[Steven Furtick]

I'm going to get you a seat.

[Pastor Mickey]

On the front row next week.

[Steven Furtick]

He says he heard me. I can't really describe it to you like I want to, but another one of our songs says, I sought the Lord. And he answered. But there is a part that says, I sought the Lord. And he heard. And he heard. The sermon is so hot. I'm dropping stuff up here. I realized that when he hears my prayer, when he hears my needs, when he hears my. Do you know the Bible says God even speaks the language called groaning? One scripture says God can interpret your groans and the Holy Spirit will turn them into a prayer. God hears all those sounds you make. One psalmist said, I love the Lord. He heard my cry. Did you know that God speaks grief. God speaks groan. God speaks pain that you can't express in a word. God gets in that stuff, too. And the devil will say, not here. And God will say, right here. In your tears, in your fears, in your sorrow, in your worry, in your anxiety. Right there, I'm coming.

[Pastor Mickey]

Right here, right here, right here.

[Steven Furtick]

New ludicrous. Because he hears. And what I learned while I'm waiting for the answer is to trust that what he hasn't answered, he's holding. He's holding. The Bible says the Lord will keep your tears in a jar. He's holding. The Bible says He will keep your prayers in a bowl like incense, like a fragrance. He's holding it. He heard you. And sometimes he's holding it because he has two hands. Sometimes he needs to do this for you and he will. Sometimes he needs to do this for you. And he will. He's the same whether the hand is like this or like this. We don't like to be left unheard. We definitely don't like to be left on hold. How long will you give somebody before you hang up on hold? But you don't really have that option with God, do you? You can't press star 13 to speak to a supervisor. He doesn't have no supervisor. You ask for God's supervisor, you're going to get God beside him. There is no other. So what are you going to do? I'm trusting that he's holding. I got Graham. What else are you going to do with your kid but give them back to God? What else are you going to do with this thing? You can't control it anyway. You might as well give it to him. I promise you can walk up better if you let him hold it at the bottom. You can go to work better even.

[Pastor Mickey]

If you don't like the job if.

[Steven Furtick]

You let him hold the part you can't control. So I realize everybody say, he heard. Do you believe that?

[Pastor Mickey]

Do you believe he heard you? He heard you. I don't profess to know why God does what he does. He's my supervisor. I can't speak to that.

[Steven Furtick]

But what I can see is times.

[Pastor Mickey]

In my life that he was holding a problem for me. I can not only see times where.

[Steven Furtick]

He was holding a problem, but I can look back.

[Pastor Mickey]

If I look back, I can't always see it when I'm in it because it's this and it's that. But if I look back over my.

[Steven Furtick]

Life, sometimes I see how he used a problem to answer a prayer.

[Pastor Mickey]

Because he's holding both. He's holding both. Sometimes the stuff I was asking him to take away is the stuff he used to give me grace for the thing I didn't know what I was going to do about. Am I right about it? Sometimes God sends a problem to answer a prayer. But if you can realize that he is big enough to hold both and you're not, and you don't have to be. But I called to the Lord and he answered my prayer. The proof that he answered it isn't that the problem went away. The proof that he answered it is that he came. He didn't just give the answer. Get ready to shout. He is the answer. So not only am I saying, listen to me. Not only am I saying to every person who's praying about a situation, he heard everybody shout. He heard. And not only am I saying, he's holding, everybody say, he's holding it. He's holding it. He holds it all together, not you. When Chad was up here earlier, I know you didn't get to See it online. But he said those exact words to you. I was like, thank you for the confirmation, God. This is the word somebody needs. You're not holding it together. He is. And all things work together for the good of them that love the Lord. So it's this, and it's this, and it's this, and it's this and it's this and it's this. They're not a season apart, and they're not a month apart, and they're not a minute apart. It is second by second. Bless the Lord. It is second by second. The Lord has been good to you. It is second by second. His mercy endures forever. That's why I couldn't believe when I told you after your dad's death, I didn't know what to say to you. All I could think of to say.

[Steven Furtick]

Was, you have one breathe.

[Pastor Mickey]

Next breath. When your son died and I cried on the porch and I felt so incompetent and to advise you at that moment, because what would I do through my tears? I told you, one job. Next breath. I got off the phone with him and I left your house feeling like such a failure, because that's all I.

[Steven Furtick]

Could think of to say.

[Pastor Mickey]

But he told me, and he told me that simple thing, next breath, was enough to get them through the hardest season of their life one millisecond at a time. I thought I failed when I told him that. But he heard.

[Steven Furtick]

He heard. He heard what you didn't say. He heard what you don't know how to say. Still. He heard how disappointed you were in how they responded to you and didn't reciprocate after all you did for them. He heard what they said about you that wasn't true. He heard. He heard what they said about you that was true, that you wish wasn't. He heard. He heard what you said about yourself. That wasn't so. He heard. He heard what you said about yourself that was so. But he speaks a better word. He heard. I'm here to remind somebody today that he heard. And he's holding. The God of Seasons is the God of seconds and milliseconds. I realize why I'm alive now because my first point is he heard. And my second point is he's holding. And my third point is it's Him. Y' all can't decide whether to write that down or clap your hands. I see a lot of conflict in the crowd is Him. Sometimes you don't recognize as him because it feels like this. The psalmist said, man, I have Some stuff waiting for me back home. Don't we all? I hate when y' all go fake on me. Don't we have some stuff waiting for us at home? Every bed is not going to be made up in your house when you go home. Just because you made up your mind to worship God today. Everybody that's around you didn't hear this message like you did. And they are not going to encourage you in your dream.

[Pastor Mickey]

Go for it.

[Steven Furtick]

The Lord is with you. He said I have some lying tongues, and if God doesn't step in. But see, he did. Now I realize why he said answered in past tense. Because the answer to his prayer wasn't it. The answer was him. Remember what Graham said? He said, I want dad on my birthday. He didn't ask for a cake, but he's going to get a cake. He didn't ask for any of those things. I have wrapped back there. Let's be honest. Holly has wrapped back there. See, I am the gift today. I don't have to wrap anything. Just put on a black hoodie and preach. But since you called for me, if you need something, I got it since I'm here and since you're here, what do you need? You can have it. Oh, I'm not saying God will give you everything you greed. I'm saying he will meet all your needs accordingly. So if you need another one, I have you because I'm here. When you said, I want dad, you have everything dad has with dad.

[Pastor Mickey]

This is the confidence. Not that the answer came, but the one who is the answer. Pastor Mickey used to say, I went to school. And when you know the answer, you raise your hand. I wonder, is there anybody in here who knows the answer? And his name is God. His name is El Shaddai. His name is El Ely. His name is Jehovah Jireh. And your father has what you ask for is him. That is the answer to this. It is not when it goes away that you can say, he answered me. It's when he shows up to remind you that if you make your bed in hell, I will be your bunkmate. If you make your bed in a bad decision, I'll start breaking prison doors to get you out. If you make your bed in depression, I'll give you a burst of joy. In this moment.

[Steven Furtick]

As long as you're breathing, I want you to know, God has Graham. God has you. God has this. Oh, I felt chills on my. What do you call these traps When I said it, God's got this. No, pastor, not here. I made too many mistakes. Yeah, it's him who shows up in this, and in this is Him. That's what life looks like. How can I ride the spiritual high? I don't know.

[Pastor Mickey]

When you figure it out, write a book. We'll all buy it. We will make you a New York Times bestselling author every day for the rest of our lives. But in the meantime, most of us.

[Steven Furtick]

Have to look for God in the.

[Pastor Mickey]

Lows.

[Steven Furtick]

And to praise him with the next breath. He said, I'm going to worship. But I'm dealing with some things back home. I wonder, is that you today? Stand to your feet. I'm here to worship. How many of you are here to worship today? Hey, don't raise your hand if you didn't come to worship.

[Pastor Mickey]

If somebody made you come, don't raise your hand. It's all right. But even in the chat say, I'm here to worship.

[Steven Furtick]

What you have to do is get this word to God. What good is it for you to go to Jerusalem for a minute if you're not going to invite God into the low places too? I remember a Bible story. It's normally for Easter, but it doesn't have to be, where this woman named Mary Magdalene who had had seven demons and Jesus had cast them out of her mind. Tradition says she was a prostitute. There's no textual evidence for that, but tradition will label a lot of things wrong, won't it? The Bible says she went to the tomb of Jesus early in the morning while it was still dark. Peter and John were having this arm wrestling match to see who could see him first and he wasn't there. What would it be like to get to the tomb and an angel tell you not here. What do you do when you look for Jesus in the last place you saw him and you feel like he's not here? What do you do when you experience God in one season of your life? And it was so high. Now he has you down here. I love the Word of God because it helps me get a new way of thinking about those moments for myself. Hey, I go through them, too. I got flipped off on Friday on the road in my Jeep with the roof down. You know what the roof down means? That means easy access for reciprocation. Man, the Lord helped me so much. Holly said, don't look at this guy, because here's what happened. That was such a tender moment. I feel like I need to tell you this real quick to make it practical. He's driving this big pickup truck. I already let two people out ahead of him, and it's a busy intersection. I don't know how you feel about Good Samaritan rules on the road, but I think if you let more than two people go out and I have to stop behind you and the light is green, you are no longer a Good Samaritan. You are overdoing it. Okay? You just do what the light says and let the Lord work out. When they get out, you can let one, maybe two out, but two. Two is the max. Okay, you're not helping anymore.

[Pastor Mickey]

You're overdoing it. That's the loudest y' all shouted all day. Now, listen. I let not one, but two people out, but he thought he should get out, too.

[Steven Furtick]

But no, I can't do that.

[Pastor Mickey]

We have to go. The light is green.

[Steven Furtick]

It's busy.

[Pastor Mickey]

So I go.

[Steven Furtick]

Holly said, oh, don't look over there at him. He is mad at you. I said, don't look over at who? He had that middle finger up in his truck. And the Lord, I. I called on the Lord and he answered, and he.

[Pastor Mickey]

Told me what to do. I stuck my finger back up at him. This one right out the top of my roof. Do you know how good that felt? I said, hey, yeah. Praise the Lord.

[Steven Furtick]

I drove onto my house and I checked to make sure he wasn't following me. Sometimes the Lord will call you to answer something a little different than you normally would have. It would take but a millisecond just to go from what you wanted to.

[Pastor Mickey]

Do to, hey.

[Steven Furtick]

Boy, I even can see you walking around this week just doing this to situations.

[Pastor Mickey]

I could see it. I could see it in my mind turn to three people and say, hey, hey, buddy. Yeah.

[Steven Furtick]

The renewal of your mind is moment by moment. It is not on this row on Sunday. It is on the road on Monday that it will be tested. Did you get this message? It is sometimes in the place where you expected God to be. That he is not. That he shows you the greatest revelation of who he is. The Bible says in John 20:11 that as she stood there at the tomb, crying as she wept, she bent over to look into the tomb and saw two angels in white seated where Jesus body had been. Past tense. He's not here. He's not here. There was one at the head, the other at the foot. They asked her, woman, why are you crying? She said, they're taking my Lord away. And I don't. I don't know where he is. I don't know where is God in this. I don't know where the answer is I don't know what the right thing to do is. I don't know what doctor to talk to next. I don't know what to do about it. I don't know if I should call him. I don't know if I should block him. I don't know what to do. I don't know what God wants me to do. I'm just kind of like. Honestly, I thought faith was like this all of my life, trying to get God to do what I wanted him to do. And now I realize it's more like this. In the dark, outside the tomb, as she's weeping, she turned around and saw Jesus standing there. Oh, wait, it's him. But she doesn't realize it was Jesus. He asked her, woman, why are you crying now? Only a savior who speaks the language of tears can ask a question like that. Who is it you are looking for? Jesus is so funny. Who are you looking for? Thinking he was the gardener and he kind of is, she said, sir, if you have carried him away, tell me where you have put him and I will get him. Jesus said to her, mary. And she turned toward him and cried out in Aramaic, rabboni, which means teacher, Jesus said, do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them I am ascending to my Father and your Father. To my God and your God. This is the gospel. That God in human form died for your sin, descended to the grave, defeated death and hell awoke, holding the keys to death. Hell and the grave. He heard when you called to him for salvation. He's holding the keys of death, Hell in the grave.

[Pastor Mickey]

And it is him who in life, in death, on the mountain, in the valley. It's him. It's Him. Yes, it's God. You called on Him. He's here. That's God making your heart beat. That's God giving you the next breath. That's God holding your tomorrow. That's God taking care of your needs. That's God. That's him. Give him a praise like you would give him. If you knew he was here. If you knew he was worthy. If you knew he was holy. If you knew he was holding your life.

[Steven Furtick]

So now you know why it says, I call God.

[Pastor Mickey]

On the mountain, I call God. In the valley, I call God. It's all God. Don't even need anything. Lord, I just love you because you love me first. And I'm so thankful that you're here with me, that you got up out of that grave. So I call you when it's good. I call you up here, I call you down there. Your God when it's good, your God when it's hard. So I'm calling today just to say I love you. I just want to say I love you. Now listen, I don't know if you got a broken heart but he's a healer and I don't know what you need but he's a provider and I don't know what you're fighting but he's your defender. I need every hand in the air. I call God in the again, here comes the answer. His name is Jesus, here he is. I call God and he answer. So if I.

[Steven Furtick]

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