Not Something, But Someone (Still In It)

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Elevation with Steven Furtick
Episode: Not Something, But Someone (Still In It)
Date: February 22, 2026

Overview

In this episode, Pastor Steven Furtick explores the difference between seeking “something” from God and seeking “someone”—the presence and person of God Himself. Drawing from Isaiah 43:1-2 and Acts 3:5-6, Furtick encourages listeners to shift their faith and prayers from a focus on outcomes or solutions (“the thing”) to intimacy with God (“the someone”), specifically highlighting that God accompanies us through trials. Using the story of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego in the fiery furnace, the message emphasizes that while challenges and suffering are inevitable, we are never alone—Jesus is "still in it." Furtick blends biblical exposition, personal anecdotes, and congregation interaction (with moments of humor and vulnerability) to offer a faith-building word for those “still in it.”

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Scriptural Foundations — Isaiah 43 & Acts 3

• [02:19-05:12]
  • Furtick introduces Isaiah 43:1-2, a scripture promising God’s presence through water and fire, and ties it to Acts 3:5-6 (“Silver or gold I do not have, but what I do have, I give you…”).
  • The core idea: the real gift is not a “thing” but a “person”—God Himself.
  • “God gives you influence in life not for something, but for someone.” (10:11, Furtick)

2. Birthday Anecdote & Personal Growth

• [05:15-06:13]
  • The congregation briefly interrupts with a birthday song for Furtick (he turns 46), which he humorously connects to his ongoing journey of learning and spiritual growth:
    • “46 and still not fixed.”
    • He candidly shares his struggles with sermon preparation, perfectionism, and the shift in his prayers: “The Lord spoke…‘I didn’t die for pretty. I died for people…If you’ll pray about what I care about, I’ll give you what you need.’” (08:36)

3. The “But Now” and “By Name” Principle

• [12:23-17:26]
  • “But now”: God’s intervention in the present. Furtick urges listeners to claim the “now” of God’s work, regardless of past circumstances or shame.
    • “The ‘but’ lets me know something came before that was going to cancel it out. The ‘now’ lets me know it's not over and it's not too late.” (13:11)
  • “By name”: God’s intimate, personalized call. He references how God calls Jacob/Israel, acknowledging all parts of our story—the broken and the blessed.
    • “God knew you when he named you…One [name] speaks to all you have been, one speaks to all that you will be. And God calls both to come forth.” (19:56)

4. Demonstration: The Difference Between “Something” and “Someone”

• [21:55-26:19]
  • Furtick illustrates by asking for water—first generally, then specifically summoning his wife Holly by name. The point: when you call by name, you get intimacy and relationship (“someone”), not just the provision (“something”).
  • “When I just asked for the thing, when I called for something, I got the thing. But when I summoned by name...I got someone.” (25:52)
  • He links it to prayer and faith: do we want God for His gifts, or for Himself?

5. Walking Through the Fire – Faith Is About Who Not What

• [28:08-34:33]
  • Refers back to Isaiah 43:2: “When you walk through the fire, you will not be burned.”
  • God never promises absence of trouble, but presence in trouble.
  • Furtick examines why scripture says “walk” (slow down, trust), not “run,” through fire.
    • “The fire represents something you’re going through. The walk represents someone you’re doing it with.” (32:16)
  • Faith involves trusting God’s presence—even if the outcome isn’t as hoped.

6. Shadrach, Meshach & Abednego: Someone in the Fire

• [34:33-51:43]
  • Retells the story from Daniel 3: the three men refuse to bow to the idol, are thrown into the furnace, and God joins them (“a fourth man in the fire”).
    • “He said, but now when you walk through the fire, I have summoned you by name, and you will not be burned.” (34:34)
  • Key point: The miracle isn’t just survival; it’s the presence of Jesus in the midst of suffering.
  • “If I was confident there would be no fire, my faith would fail me now. If I was confident, confident that there would be no water, my faith would stop short. But my faith is not in something, but someone.” (47:51)
  • The congregation is repeatedly invited to declare “still in it,” affirming God’s ongoing presence.
  • “Three went in, four walked around, three came out. That means there’s someone...still in it.” (50:18)
  • The “fourth man” is revealed as Jesus, always present in trials.

7. Application and Encouragement for Listeners

• [51:43-56:09]
  • Furtick urges listeners not to expect instant deliverance but to recognize God’s faithful companionship.
  • The message ends with pastoral encouragement and prayer:
    • “If there is something you thought God was going to do in your life and it is not happening...your confidence is not something, it’s someone.” (51:43)
    • “Jesus never left that fire. He’s still in it so that whatever fire you face today, he is your fourth man…” (53:20)

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

1. On Shifting Focus in Prayer:

   “You keep praying, Lord, give me my points…If you’ll pray for the people, I’ll give you the points, because the points are what you care about and the people are what I care about.” (08:36, Furtick)

2. On Identity and Being Known by God:

   “God knew you when he named you…One [name] speaks to all you have been, one speaks to all that you will be. And God calls both to come forth.” (19:56, Furtick)

3. On the Power of ‘But Now’:

   “The ‘but’ lets me know something came before that was going to cancel it out. The ‘now’ lets me know it’s not over and it’s not too late.” (13:11, Furtick)

4. Demonstration on “Someone vs Something”:

   “When I just asked for the thing…But when I summoned by name, I didn’t just get the thing. I got someone.” (25:52, Furtick)

5. On the Purpose of Trials:

   “God will use a fire to set you free…The fire did not kill them. It only took off what was holding them.” (47:41, Furtick)

6. Faith Even If God Doesn’t Deliver as Expected:

   “He will deliver us from your majesty’s hand. But even if he doesn’t…Even if the feeling stays, I have faith to walk through it. Even if they walk away, God walks with me.” (38:21, Furtick)

7. The Fourth Man Still in the Fire:

   “Three went in, four walked around, three came out. That means there’s someone still in it.” (50:18, Furtick)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 02:19 – Introduction of scriptures and message title
• 05:15 – Birthday moment and the transition to the main message
• 08:36 – Revelation about preaching for people, not just points
• 12:25 – “But now” – first key phrase explained
• 17:26 – “By name” – the depth of being personally called by God
• 21:55 – “Someone vs Something” illustration (water and summoning Holly)
• 28:08 – God’s presence in both our past (Jacob) and our future (Israel)
• 32:16 – Walking through the fire, not running
• 34:33 – The word “not”—God’s promises through fire
• 38:21 – Faith declarations: “Even if…”
• 47:17 – The revelation: Four in the fire (Jesus as the fourth)
• 50:18 – Summation: “Still in it” and congregation affirmation
• 51:43 – Final exhortation and prayer

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Final Thoughts

This episode challenges listeners to move beyond seeking “things” from God and to anchor their confidence in the abiding presence of “someone”—Jesus—especially in times of difficulty. Drawing powerfully from scripture, personal testimony, and the story of the fiery furnace, Furtick offers practical comfort and spiritual encouragement for all who feel like they’re “still in it.” The episode affirms: your confidence is not in something but in someone, and He never leaves you.

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Key Message:
You may still be "in it"—the fire, the trial, the struggle—but you are not alone. Seek not the something, but the Someone who summons you by name and walks with you always.

Transcript

[Steven Furtick]

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[Steven Furtick]

Hey, this is Steven Furtick. I'm the pastor of Elevation Church and this is our podcast. I wanted to thank you for joining us today. Hope this inspires you. Hope it builds your faith. Hope it gives you perspective to see God is moving in your life. Enjoy the message. I'm so glad you're here it's great to see you in the presence of the Lord today. Give yourself a hand because you made it. I say, give yourself a hand because you made it. I want to share this scripture from Isaiah 43:1 2, a promise that I have never preached about before, but it has meant a lot to me personally through the years, and I think you'll see why. The prophet says, but now this is what the Lord, he who created you, Jacob, he who formed you, Israel. Do not fear, for I have redeemed you. I have summoned you by name. You are mine. When you pass through the waters, I will be with you. When you pass through the rivers, they will not sweep over you. When you walk through the fire, you will not be burned. The flames will not set you ablaze. For I am the Lord your God, the Holy One of Israel, your Savior. Now I'm going to do what the Lord told me to do because I never thought this scripture would go with that scripture. But look at Acts, chapter 3, verses 5 and 6. Acts, chapter 3, verses 5and 6. I told the Lord, Isaiah is Old Testament, Acts is New Testament. What do they have to do with one another? But there is a connection. The Bible says in verse five. So the man gave them his attention, expecting to get something from them. Then Peter said, silver or gold, I do not have. But what I do have, I give you in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Walk. Today, I want to talk to you from this subject. The title of this message is Not Something, but Someone. Not something, but Someone. Then for a subtitle to the message, we're going to call it Still In It. Still in It. High five. Four people you can reach and say, still in it. Please put it in the chat as well. Still in it. Still in it. Welcome today to our efam around the world. Wherever you are, God is with you. Still in it. You may be seated.

[Congregant/Assistant]

Somebody shout, still in it.

[Steven Furtick]

Still in it. Still in it. Well, thank you so much. 46 looks good on me, huh? 46 years old. 46 and still not fixed. Well, now, this is ridiculous. Y' all are a disobedient class. I didn't tell you to sing this.

[Announcer]

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[Steven Furtick]

Thank you so much. That is very kind. Thank you. Thank you.

[Congregant/Assistant]

Okay, thank you.

[Steven Furtick]

Thank you. Are y' all done now? Messing up my sermon intro. I appreciate it so much. It means a lot. It kind of goes along with what I was going to say to start the sermon. 46 years old. I've been preaching for 30 years. And then I've been pastoring for 20. I'm still learning how to do this. I'm not saying that like humble pie, I am still learning how to do this. Even sometimes I realize that the way I've been doing it is completely wrong. Then I try to correct and let the Lord speak to me when that happens. It happened a year or two ago. I was praying so hard for God to give me my sermon points. I'm kind of OCD about my sermon points. I don't care as much about matching my clothes, but I like all of my message to match. I like it all to start with the same letter. I like for it all to have the same cadence. I like for it to have an arc. I like for it to have continuity. I like for there to be layers to the message. And I want to present something pretty when I preach. But the Lord spoke to me in my preparation one time and said, I didn't die for pretty. I died for people. You're so worried about your points, you keep praying, lord, give me my points, give me my points. Give me my points. He said, I want you to shift that and start praying not for the points, but pray for the people. If you'll pray for the people, I'll give you the points, because the points are what you care about and the people are what I care about. If you'll pray about what I care about, I'll give you what you need. Ever since then, it's shifted me so that when I sit down to preach, I picture people. Some I know, some I've invented, some who are a composite sketch of many individuals I've met through the years. I bring Tom to the table. All that you've been through and all God has done in your life, I tell myself, if this isn't true for Tom, it isn't true for anyone because of what you've been through. I tell myself when I'm preparing a sermon that even if they don't all start with the letter N, it's okay, because somebody in the room is going through Parkinson's, and they don't care anything about my points. They don't care anything about my points. Somebody in the room just got a promotion, and they don't really care about my points either. They're just thinking about that paycheck. They're just thinking about that vacation they're going to be able to take now. They're not thinking about all those people they're going to have to manage now. They didn't think about that part when they prayed for the promotion. But they're going to find out real soon, so I need to get them prepared for that promotion. They don't care anything about the points. Instead of focusing on something to say, I've learned to focus on someone to say it to. Always remember that God gives you influence in life not for something, but for someone. Seek first the kingdom and his righteousness and all these things. Things will be added to you as well. If you seek the kingdom, you get the things thrown in like a prize at the bottom of a happy meal. But if you seek the things, you miss the kingdom, and the things aren't even the things you think they're going to be. Many of us live our entire lives thinking there is a thing. We think there is a thing that will make us satisfied. We think there is a thing that will make us confident. We think there is a thing that will make us feel finally happy. We think there is a thing that will make us feel secure. We think there is a thing that will bring us joy. Things can bring For a little while, it works until it doesn't. A thing can be a thing, but the thing has a thing that is only the thing. Until the thing is just a thing. The thing can do the thing until the thing is just a thing. What I'm trying to say is it's someone, not something. I'm preaching to someone today who is going through something very difficult in your life. You say that's generic. I'll be more specific. You are still in it, even though you thought God brought you out of it. That's why we are surprised sometimes by the fiery trials. 1st Peter 4:12 the disciple said, my friends, do not be surprised at the fiery ordeal that has come on you to test you as though something strange were happening to you. But rejoice inasmuch as you participate in the sufferings of Christ, so that you may be overjoyed when his glory is revealed. Did you see the progression in the text? He said, you're going to rejoice when his glory is revealed, but don't be surprised when the fire comes to test the proven value of that which your life is built upon. I won't spend very long in that, because in the book of Isaiah, in a different context, the prophet is speaking to someone, or actually a group of people who are in exile because of their sin and disobedience. The Lord has allowed them to be carried away into Babylon for a while, to bring them back to Himself forever. The Lord allowed them to be carried away for a little while in order to bring them back to himself forever. In Isaiah 43:1, two of the most hopeful words that can appear appear in scripture, where the prophet says, I know you've been a long way off. I know you're in a strange place. I know you're in a situation you are not equipped to deal with, and I know it's your fault. When you open Isaiah 43:1 get ready to shout but now. I think those two words should be our first point. But now. As a matter of fact, let's just focus on one word now. Somebody shout now. You whispered it like you were going to get in trouble. If you said it loud, you won't get in trouble.

[Congregant/Assistant]

Say it loud now.

[Steven Furtick]

Say it to your pastor. Say now. Say it to your shame. Say now. Say it to that stuff from childhood you're still dragging around. Say now. Say it to the people who rejected you, but God is bringing somebody else to replace them.

[Congregant/Assistant]

Say now.

[Steven Furtick]

Yeah, say it to the side of you that worries about the future so much you can't concentrate on the present. Say now. I feel a now anointing rising up in this place today. I feel that the Lord has anointed me for your now.

[Congregant/Assistant]

I know I didn't know you 15

[Steven Furtick]

years ago, but God put you here now. I know there have been some times in your life you wish you could get back. But now. If I could nominate two words from the text to turn on the lights and encourage somebody, I would nominate.

[Congregant/Assistant]

But now.

[Steven Furtick]

The but lets me know something came before it that was going to cancel it out. The now lets me know it's not over and it's not too late.

[Congregant/Assistant]

The but lets me know there was

[Steven Furtick]

something that was blocking me. The now lets me know there's something bigger that's breaking through.

[Congregant/Assistant]

Somebody shout but now.

[Steven Furtick]

I better calm down because this is

[Congregant/Assistant]

just my first point.

[Steven Furtick]

But I came to announce now to somebody.

[Congregant/Assistant]

I came to get you out of your pity party today. I came to get you from thinking about when you're 70 years old, you're 17. Somebody shout now. I came to preach to a student section to tell you you don't have to wait until later to have an impact for God.

[Steven Furtick]

Shout now.

[Congregant/Assistant]

I came to say you're called right now. I came to say you're chosen right now. I came to say you're wise right now. I came to say your life doesn't start when you go to college. You have a ministry on your campus now. I need a 16 year old to shout now. I need an 18 year old to shout now. I Need an 80 year old to shout now. I need a midlife crisis 46 year old to shout now. Now, Jesus, I need you now.

[Steven Furtick]

But now. Two beautiful words. Mary, the sister of Lazarus, wouldn't go to the gate. And Martha came to Jesus and said, if you would have been here, my brother wouldn't have died. But I know that even now God will give you whatever you ask. I'm not going to make you shout the whole sermon, but let's just keep it going for a little while.

[Congregant/Assistant]

Shout now. But now.

[Steven Furtick]

Every time the devil tries to drag you back to your past.

[Congregant/Assistant]

But now.

[Steven Furtick]

But now. Every time he tries to drag you back to your shame. But now. This is what the Lord says. Isaiah 43:1. Please. This is what the Lord says. He who created you, Jacob. He who formed you, Israel. Do not fear. Somebody needs to hear that. Do not fear. You say you brought me all the way out here just to tell me something that simple? Do not fear. No, I brought you all the way out here so God could tell you something that simple. Because if I say it, who cares? Because I don't know what you're facing. But if God says it and he only knows what you're facing, but he knows the plans he has for you to give you a hope and a future. See, it's not saying something, it's someone saying something that gives it the power. So that if someone says to you it'll be okay, it may mean nothing, but if somebody who lived through the death of a spouse says to you, when you lose your spouse, it will be okay, it's not something they said, it's someone who said it. But now this is what the Lord says. There's the thing he says. Don't fear. There's the one who said it. The Lord. I love the Lord because only he can tell me something that ridiculous and I have to submit to it. If you tell me, don't be afraid. I love when people give me advice about pastoring the church. Just let the Lord lead you. That means a lot considering you've never done it before. I appreciate it, but I appreciate the fact that, that the one who knows where he's taking me is the one who's speaking to me. I also want to point out not only the phrase but now, but I want to point out the phrase in verse one where he says, I have redeemed you. I have summoned you by name. Our first point is. But now our second point is by name. Yes, they're all going to start with the same letter. Because I Still, like my points,

[Matt Rogers]

the

[Steven Furtick]

Lord is working on me. You know, when the Lord is speaking this verse, he's speaking it to the nation of Israel. So it's interesting that in order to deal with their fear, in order to deal with their panic, in order to deal with their pain, he speaks to their past. He says, he who created you, Jacob. He who formed you, Israel. Now, you may be confused and think that God is speaking to two different people. He kind of is. But the interesting thing about God calling them by name is that Jacob is both a name and a nation. Israel is both a name and a nation. By this point, when Isaiah is prophesying, they have become a nation in captivity. But he calls them from captivity and he calls them Jacob, and he calls them Israel. He calls them by name. But the interesting thing is that Jacob's name was changed to Israel when he wrestled with God and did not let go. You would think that by the time God calls them by name, he would no longer speak to Jacob, only call them Israel. However, God is not uncomfortable with bringing all of who you are into the season of your life you're in. For every nation God builds, there is a name that comes along with it. For every Israel God raises up, there is a Jacob who comes along and rides shotgun in the car. For everything God does in your life, that is awesome. There are some other things you bring along in the process that you wish he would get rid of. So when God says, I have called you by name, Jacob. I have called you by name, Israel, he is speaking to both parts of me, not only the part of me. I can tell this is a little too fancy. So let me say it a little bit simpler. God knew you when he named you. When God calls you, he calls you Jacob. He calls you Israel. One speaks to all you have been, one speaks to all that you will be. And God calls both to come forth. That's why you don't have to be afraid when you're still in it. When there's a situation in your life that you thought God would have delivered you out of. I'm going to work on this for a moment because it can confuse you to the point where you think the event is your identity. So when you struggle with a certain thing or you have struggled with a certain thing, the event becomes the identity. This even happens to entire families because of the brokenness a family can experience, which is an event. We will say things like, I come from a broken home.

[Congregant/Assistant]

The only issue I have with you

[Steven Furtick]

calling the home broken is that God might Want to call it blessed.

[Congregant/Assistant]

So don't let the fact that there was some brokenness in your past or even in your present. Let's be honest, some of us, it's not.

[Steven Furtick]

I come from a broken home.

[Congregant/Assistant]

My home is still broken, but it's still blessed, even though it's still broken. So be careful of people who give you partial testimonies. A partial testimony goes like this. I was struggling with depression, and God delivered me from depression. The problem I have with your testimony is, I know you still cry sometimes. The problem I have with your testimony is, I know it sounds good on a microphone, but you are still struggling to live it out on Monday. The problem I have with that testimony that God delivered me from anxiety makes the person feel like if they still feel anxiety, that God has failed them in deliverance. But feeling anxious doesn't mean God has failed. Feeling is not failing. Feeling is not failing. So when you feel that you have failed, it does not mean you have failed. Because God the One who created you, God the One who formed you, God the one who named you, God, God, the one who makes nations out of names.

[Steven Furtick]

God knows my Jacob, even as he calls my Israel. Does it make sense out of my mouth like it does in my head? He said, I called you by name. I think I want to demonstrate this. Let's say right now in this sermon. I was thirsty and I was like, I need some water. I'm making my need known. I need some water. Thank you, Chunks. Now watch that. I got the water. Thank you. I appreciate it, Chunks. I'm just grateful for you. I got the water. But I wonder. Watch this. Now. All I did in that situation was I made the need known. I didn't say, chunks, I need some water. I didn't tell them I was going to do this in my sermon or anything like that. I just kind of figured somebody, all of these people who love me and sang me happy birthday, you're not going to let me stand up here and go, going to bring me some water? The Lord said, when I called you, look at this. This is a powerful word. He said, Verse 1, I have summoned you by name. Summon is a powerful word. It's a specific word. It's not a word like, I wish someone would. Summon means that God knows who he wants to do it. Let me try again. Take the water. We're just going to do the illustration again. This is what I want you to see. But now, by name, Israel, Jacob, Jacob, Israel. All the parts of you that sit in that seat with you, all the Parts of your home, all the parts of your family situation. The Lord said, when I called you, I summon you by name. Holly, would you please bring me some water? This is what's great about it. She doesn't mind bringing me the water. Watch this. Verse 1. She said, I have summoned you by name. You are mine. I don't know what would happen if I asked your wife to bring me water. You might be offended and she might have an attitude. She might spit in it. I don't know your wife like that, but she's mine. So when I said her name and I said, holly, would you bring these when I summoned you? I could get used to this. That's a good feeling. I wonder if this summoning thing only works when I'm preaching a sermon. I'm going to try to summon out at home. I summoned her, Holly by name, and she brought me the water. So I've got the water from my wife. But then there's something I can get from her that I don't really want to get from him. She can hold my hand. Everybody is turning red in the church. I'm just talking about this. Watch this. I got the water. And I bet, because it's her, I bet she'll give me some sugar, too. That's all right. Hey, don't be jealous about it.

[Congregant/Assistant]

Get in some marriage counseling.

[Steven Furtick]

You can get some sugar, too,

[Congregant/Assistant]

because she's mine.

[Steven Furtick]

When I just asked for the thing, when I called for something, I got the thing. But when I summoned by name, I didn't just get the thing.

[Congregant/Assistant]

I got someone. Nothing against Chunks, but there is an intimacy to this thing that is not

[Steven Furtick]

there for that thing.

[Congregant/Assistant]

I need the one to come to me in my low moments who will not only bring me the water, but

[Steven Furtick]

who will watch this walk with me.

[Congregant/Assistant]

Because after this water is gone, I still need somebody to walk with me. I'm going to help you because some of the things you've been praying about in your life, you just keep asking

[Steven Furtick]

God to give you the thing. The thing, the thing.

[Congregant/Assistant]

So God get me through this situation. So God change this circumstance. So God take away this pain. So God give me this advance so God give me this favorable outcome. You can call for the thing. You can ask God for something, or you can ask for someone. You can get somebody to bring you water, or you can have the water and the walk. There will be times in your life where you might be standing at a Red Sea and you might need someone to show you what to do at that Red Sea. So if all you have is the thing. All you're ever going to be is stuck at the sea. But if you learn on the call of the God, of Moses, the one who opened up the oceans and said, I need you now to do the same thing for me.

[Steven Furtick]

I don't just need something. I need someone. The Lord said, I've called you by name.

[Congregant/Assistant]

I have summoned you by name.

[Steven Furtick]

I have called you by name. Which means when he called you, he

[Congregant/Assistant]

knew you had what he needed you to have. So don't freak out about the situation. If he summoned you for it, you're the one for it.

[Steven Furtick]

Selah. Pause and think about it. I called her to be with me

[Congregant/Assistant]

because I knew she had what I needed for what I wanted to prove.

[Steven Furtick]

This is why the Lord says, do not fear, because I knew what I put inside of you when I summoned you. Here's the other thing. He didn't just call Israel, he called Jacob too. So when he called you to do it, he knew where you would be right now. Go back to the history of this for a moment, would you? I already alluded to it. He said, do not fear. I have redeemed you. I've summoned you by name. You are mine. But verse two is really what I wanted to preach about, because this is where I think so many of us are. When you pass through the waters, I will be with you. Just like he can call you by name, you can call him too. When you pass through the rivers, they will not sweep over you. When you walk through the fire, you will not be burned. The flames will not set, you blaze. Now, this is not just nice things God is saying so you can sleep better at night. These are actually historically anchored events that God's people have seen him do in the past. But see, they haven't seen it firsthand just yet. It's one thing to hear that God opened up an ocean. It's another thing to stand in front of one and believe him to do it. Now, it's one thing to believe that God can do it for your friend, but it's another thing to believe that he's calling your name. I love the promise because he's reaching into the history. Things that they've heard about God doing and speaking to something they're about to see him do. Now watch this. This is really good. He said, when you walk through the fire, you will not be burned. I think every word of that is important. First of all, he says, when, not if. We have to be careful promising people stuff. God did not promise them. We have to be careful claiming things as promises from God that are really just preferences of our flesh. Because the Bible would be a lot easier for me to preach if I could write it how I want. I wish there was a workaround for this water you're walking through, but there may not be. So the Lord says, there will be times when you walk through the waters and I will be with you, and when you pass through the rivers. These are two different incidents, by the way. One can be found in Exodus 14, where the people of God crossed through the waters, the ocean, the Red Sea. Also, you may want to read in Joshua chapter three how they crossed over the Jordan river into the promised land. Moses, my servant, is dead. Now, Joshua, get ready to lead these people. And the Lord did all of that for them, but will he do it for me? Isn't this the question, we wonder when we come up on the situation? Will he do it for me?

[Congregant/Assistant]

Can he use me? I understand how God can use them.

[Steven Furtick]

Remember, he summoned you by name, but now by name he says, when you walk through the waters. But here's the part I couldn't figure out. In verse two, he says, when you walk through the fire, you will not be burned. The flames will not set you ablaze. What I couldn't figure out is, if I'm in a fire, why am I walking?

[Congregant/Assistant]

Let me just take a vote. How many of you, fire on both sides, just going to slow it down to a cool walk. How many of you would vote that there is a better way to get

[Steven Furtick]

through the fire than walk?

[Congregant/Assistant]

The fire represents something you're going through. The walk represents someone you're doing it with. The Lord said the reason you cannot do what he said in verse one, do not fear, is because you are so focused on something, you have forgotten someone. So now you're running all around how to do this. Now you're trying to escape situations. It's not something, it's someone. The someone who is with you in the fire is none other than the God who created you and formed you and knows you and called you by name.

[Announcer]

Who?

[Congregant/Assistant]

But now in the fire, I'm beside you.

[Steven Furtick]

It must take faith for you to walk through fire. It must take faith for you to slow down the pace a little bit.

[Congregant/Assistant]

It must take faith for you to

[Steven Furtick]

come through this like I know it's

[Congregant/Assistant]

going to be all right. It must take faith for you to

[Steven Furtick]

continue in what God spoke to you, even though you don't feel his presence. I wish we had an example

[Matt Rogers]

somewhere

[Steven Furtick]

in the Bible of when someone was in the fire. And God did something about it. Should I use Jonah? No, Jonah was in the belly of a fish. I don't think we could use Jonah.

[Congregant/Assistant]

Should I use Lazarus?

[Steven Furtick]

No, he was in the tomb. I got the wrong one. Should I use. I'm just going through.

[Congregant/Assistant]

Should I use Shadrach? Should I use Meshach? Should I use Abednego? Well, let's call on the three Hebrew

[Steven Furtick]

boys then to find out about how God but now calls me and summons me by name. Because he said, when you're in the

[Congregant/Assistant]

fire, you will not.

[Steven Furtick]

That's my third word. Is not.

[Congregant/Assistant]

So I got.

[Steven Furtick]

Now I have name. I got not. He said, but now when you walk through the fire, I have summoned you by name, and you will not be burned.

[Congregant/Assistant]

I don't know if you're getting good

[Steven Furtick]

notes from this message, but this is prophetic for somebody.

[Congregant/Assistant]

Let's check on show Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego. Let's check on King Nebuchadnezzar, who erected a statue 90ft tall, made of gold, 9ft wide, and said, everybody, hear the sound of the music and bow to the statue I made of myself. And there were three boys who were exiles in Babylon who said, we will not bow.

[Steven Furtick]

The king said, we'll see about that. What if. When you hear the sound of the horn, the flute, the zither, the lyre, the harp, the pipe and all kinds of music.

[Congregant/Assistant]

If you're ready to fall down and

[Steven Furtick]

worship the image I made, that's good.

[Congregant/Assistant]

But if you do not worship it,

[Steven Furtick]

you will be thrown immediately into a blazing furnace.

[Congregant/Assistant]

Then what God will be able to.

[Steven Furtick]

To rescue you from my hand?

[Congregant/Assistant]

You're about to find out. Because it's not something. See, He's a king who made a statue, and that's a thing. It's 90ft tall and it's 9ft wide, and it's made of gold. But God is not a something. He is God. He's a someone. What God will be able to rescue you? Here we get the names Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego. They replied to him, King Nebuchadnezzar. We do not need to defend ourselves before you in this matter. If we are thrown into the blazing furnace, the God we serve is able to deliver us from. That is something he can do. God can get you out of debt. That's something he can do. God can restore your relationship with your daughter. That's something he can do. God can give you freedom from the craving. That's something he can do. It's a thing he can do because he's God. And there is nothing that is impossible to God. So God can do this thing, whatever the thing is, he can reduce the prison sentence. He can cause the marriage to have love again. He can heal the pain in your body. God can give you a better job. God can move you to a more favorable part of the office. God can do the thing. But I didn't come to get a thing for my situation. God, things change. But Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. So if y' all going to sit there while I preach, go ahead. But if we are thrown into the blazing furnace, the God we serve is able to do exceeding upon abundantly above all we ask or think. And he will deliver us from your majesty's hand. But even if he doesn't,

[Steven Furtick]

We're doing the grown up Bible today.

[Congregant/Assistant]

We're doing the he did not take

[Steven Furtick]

my panic attacks away.

[Congregant/Assistant]

I had one last night, but I came to church and praised him anyway because he's the one who got me through it. I'm preaching that. Can we preach that? That even if this of Jesus? We want you to know, your majesty, that we will not. But now by name will not. What's your will?

[Steven Furtick]

Not.

[Congregant/Assistant]

What's your will?

[Steven Furtick]

Not.

[Congregant/Assistant]

Even if the feeling stays, I have faith to walk through it. Even if they walk away, God walks with me. What's your will?

[Steven Furtick]

Not.

[Congregant/Assistant]

I've told you mine before. The enemy torments me a lot of times with feelings that my entire ministry

[Steven Furtick]

will end in failure. Many do. Yet I made a decision one day that it may end in failure. But I will not live in fear.

[Congregant/Assistant]

I just won't do it. I don't plan to fail. I don't pray to fail. I'm preparing not to fail and I'm taking every precaution.

[Steven Furtick]

But if something happens and it ends in failure, there was a time where I was terrified to get on the stage and speak in public. And that's kind of important for me to do. You're like, what were you, 12? No, I'm talking about when I was in my 30s. I would have to get up and do it. A lot of times the only way I could get through the first five minutes was to grip the sides of the pulpit really hard. But I will not stop preaching just because I have to preach repentant. See, I want you to have some conviction in some area of your life that even if I will not. You know this story about Daniel in the lion's den? He wasn't even in there. Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego were in there. He was in the lion's den. You understand what I'm saying?

[Congregant/Assistant]

Daniel went to the lions den.

[Steven Furtick]

Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego went to the first furnace. Then we want to preach those things and expect God to bring us out of our situation by 5 o' clock today. What I love about the scripture I gave you. Listen to this. When they said, we will not serve your gods or worship the image of gold you have set up, it gave me a picture. It's okay to feel it, but don't kneel to it. You got it? I may feel lust, but I don't kneel to lust. Everybody wants to preach about the stuff we want God to take away. Take away. Anxiety will deal with your lust. Some of your anxiety is dealing from your lust. Because you crave what you can't have and what you want what you don't have. And now you're lusting after stuff that you're not supposed to have. And you're anxious because you can't get it. Because God doesn't to want want to give it to you because it's not meant for you to have it. Stop praying about anxiety so much. Start controlling comparison. So I don't want this fruit, but I'm attached to this root. That ain't going to work. It's going to keep growing and growing. Do not be afraid. Yes, Pastor, I agree with that. I want the Lord to remove fear from my life. But you might have to change some of what you watch before you fall asleep at night. If they are killing people while you are falling asleep, you're not going to be counting sheep at 3am.

[Congregant/Assistant]

It's fine. We watch normal TV too.

[Steven Furtick]

I'm not telling you. All I watch is the chosen and the. But I'm saying that you may have to make some adjustments. What does this have to do with Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego? They said we will not kneel even if the fire gets hot. By the way, the Lord did not promise that it would not be hot. He did not promise that you would never feel. Stop holding God to promises he did not make. God did not say you would never feel stressed. God did not say you would never feel lonely. You will feel lonely sometimes, especially if you follow Christ. You're going to feel ostracized, left out, uninvited. You're going to have fomo. Why are y' all laughing at that? When we grew up, it was fomo. Like, it was fear of missing out. We were scared that everybody was off doing something fun without us when we grew up. Now they have proof of missing out. It's looking at all the pictures and scrolling at all the stuff. Yeah, they're there without me, and they didn't ask me. There they are right there. I see them right there. Pomo, there's going to be some flames. I just want to talk to you today because I'm so sick of it. I'm so sick of the preaching that is not based in a real promise. The moment I tell you, shout, and he'll bring you out. You just lose your voice. Now I shouted, and now I have laryngitis, and I'm still not out, and I'm still dealing with it. I still have to be disciplined. So now I shouted, and I'm still not out. But the Beauty of Daniel 3 is they said he will. We just don't know how he wants to do it yet. We are not going to bow to this pressure, even though we don't know how God is going to do it. Read the Bible with me. Even if he does not. We want you to know we will not serve your gods or worship the image of gold you have set up. Now, I told my friend when I preached this part, I'm just going to let it come out however it wants to come out. Then Nebuchadnezzar was furious with Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, and his attitude toward them changed. He ordered the furnace heated seven times hotter than usual and commanded some of the strongest soldiers in the army to tie up Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego and throw them into the blazing furnace. So these men, wearing their robes, trousers, turbans, and other clothes, were bound and thrown into the blazing furnace. It's getting close to the part I want to read. The king's command was so urgent and the furnace so hot that the flames of the fire killed the soldiers who took up Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. These three men, firmly tied, fell into the blazing furnace. Now I know why the Lord left the fire on. Burn the ropes off and set them free. God will use a fire to set you free. God will use a fire to set you free. That's not the verse I wanted to preach either. Verse 24 says, Then King Nebuchadnezzar leaped to his feet in amazement and asked the advisers, weren't there three men we tied up and threw into the fire? They replied, certainly, your majesty, you know these Are some real sycophants, men. They built the dude a 90 foot tall statue. He's compensating. And they're going along with it. They said, certainly, your majesty. Yes, sir. All three of them. Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego. All three of them. Just as he requested. He said, look, I see. Four men that we tied up and threw into the fire. I see four men. Wait, no, no. We tied three. We threw three.

[Congregant/Assistant]

I see four.

[Steven Furtick]

This is like a math impossibility. We threw three. I see 4 walking around in the fire, unbound and unharmed. The fire did not kill them. It only took off what was holding them.

[Congregant/Assistant]

I see four

[Steven Furtick]

walking around in the fire, unbound and unharmed.

[Congregant/Assistant]

The fourth looks like a son of the gods, because he was. Because it was Jesus in the fire with Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego. We might as well not guess like Nebuchadnezzar. We know his name. It was Jesus. We know he is the fourth man in the fire. We know it was Jesus, the bright and morning star. We know it was Jesus, the lamb that was slain from the foundations of the world. We know it was Jesus. Just like it was Aaron's branch that budded. It was Jesus. It was Jesus in the fire. There were three men and there are four men. And I see a fourth man who looks like a son of the God. So Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego said, God can do something. But it's not something I'm confident in. It's some wood that I'm confident in. If I was confident there would be no fire, My faith would fail me now. If I was confident, confident that there would be no water, my faith would stop short. But my faith is not in something, but someone. And I know his name, Nebuchadnezzar approached the opening. I'm almost done. But tell somebody still in it. Tell somebody else still in it. Tell a third person still in it. Now tell a fourth person still in it. Nebuchadnezzar approached the opening of the blazing furnace and shouted, Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, servants of the most high God, come out. Come here. So Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego came out of the fire. Wait a minute. Three went in, four walked around, three came out. Come on, help me real quick. Three went in, four walked around, three came out. That means there's someone

[Movie Trailer Narrator]

still

[Matt Rogers]

in it.

[Congregant/Assistant]

So I came to declare for every fire walking, faith talking. But now, child of God, I don't know what your Fire is But there's someone

[Announcer]

still in

[Congregant/Assistant]

hurts but he did it Made me cry but he did it not what I expected but he did it he did it he did it he did it. High five. Four people say he's still in it he's still in it God's not done with you God will make sure a house visit to Babylon God will make a house visit to a prison God will make a house visit to the belly of a fish God will make a house visit he's still in it he's still in it he's still in it. Even though I made the mistake My God will make a way but now

[Steven Furtick]

I have summoned you Summon not something but some one God called you. Do you hear me, bro? He called you, he called your Jacob just the same as he is calling your Israel. It's not something, it's someone. Now stand to your feet wherever you are, even if you're only joining this message online. When you walk through the fire, you will not be burned. Wind lets me know that the trial is guaranteed. Don't be surprised at the fiery trials. Matter of fact, don't be surprised if this entire sermon at 3 o', clock, it doesn't even feel like it was for you. Don't be surprised by it when you walk through the fire. But Holly, my confidence is who I'm walking with. If there is something you thought God was going to do in your life and it is not happening or it is not happening on schedule, the word of the Lord is your confidence is not something, it's someone. That's what he said. He said, I will walk with you. That's how I can walk through fire and that's how I can walk through failure. And that's how I can walk through struggles. Because he summoned me by name. Father, it is my sincere prayer that this message today will go far deeper than a head knowledge. It is my sincere hope today that we will not hear this as a candy coated placebo message of principles to help us survive just another six days. My prayer is that we would not hear this message with a false expectation of a delusional deliverance that leaves us doubting even more on the back end. But my prayer is that we would see the fourth man, the one who is still in the fire. I prayed as I prepared today, Lord, for someone who is still in it. I was praying for something to say and you gave me someone to say it to. You're still in the fire and so is he. Jesus never left that fire. He's still in it so that whatever fire you face today, he is your fourth man. You can talk to him, you can walk with him, you can cry with him, you can process your pain with Him. Not something, but someone. And his name is Jesus, the One who will never fail. I trust in God, my Savior, the One who will never fail. Thank you for joining us. Special thanks to those of you who give generously to this ministry. It's because of you that this ministry is possible. You can click the link in the description to Give now or visit elevationchurch.orgpodcast for more information and if you enjoyed the podcast, you can subscribe. You can share it with your friends. You can click the share button, take a screenshot and share it on your social stories and tag us LevationChurch. Thanks again for listening. God bless you.

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