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Elon Musk
It's always important to explain the why of things and the why of Starship is that we want to be a multi planet species to extend consciousness beyond Earth. I think for two main reasons. One is to ensure the long term survival and prosperity of life as we know it in consciousness, which if we are a multi planet species and ultimately a multi stellar species out there among the stars, the probability of survival is much, much longer. That's kind of the defensive aspect or life insurance for life collectively. But then there also need to be things that are inspiring and exciting and that give you reason to live. Life cannot just be about solving one tragic problem after another. There must be also reasons to get up in the morning and be excited about the future. And a future where we are a spacefaring civilization is infinitely more exciting than one where we are not.
Starship Engineer
And we're doing it all pretty unique location. I mean the pads behind us, we got rocket on the tower, got another tower with it. We're sitting inside Starfactory and I mean it wasn't like this for very long. This is all pretty brand new.
Starship Operations Manager
Yeah, I think we moved Starship here in about the early part of 2019. So we've been coming that entire time and seeing the site evolve from a double wide trailer and a tent where we built Starhopper to the first suborbital test flights. And now we, we have behind us two towers for the first time as we build towards the first operational flight from the second tower at the end of this year. And this beautiful building, million square feet where we're able to work towards a production line of starships.
Elon Musk
Yeah, the SpaceX team has done an incredible job of building out really the most advanced rocket manufacturing facility that has ever existed. This is far beyond any rocket fabrication facility that has ever been built. This is essentially alien level technology. And it was all built here basically down by the Rio Grande river and close to the beach. It's an incredibly improbable location. And this used to be a sandbar. I think we're about, you know, three feet or about a meter above sea level. So it's, it really was, was nothing. If you see the time lapse from sandbar to two launch towers and a gigantic rocket factory with high bays. And we're going to be building something called the Gigabay, which is like one of the largest enclosed volumes on Earth. So it's sort of like a gigantic Borg cube that we're going to be building here for building and storing these gigantic rockets. It's really spectacular and anyone can come and visit. So because we're on a public highway and we're literally by a public beach, you can actually come and see the rocket. You can quite close up. I mean, you can drive past it and you can also look at the factory and anyone could do this from anywhere in the world. So you can come and visit and, and check it out. I think it's pretty cool that it's.
Starship Engineer
Just not right now.
Elon Musk
Just not right.
Starship Engineer
Just not right now.
Elon Musk
Obviously not when we're launching because there's some safety issues. But the rocket's often just sitting on the pad without any propellant in it. And then you can just come here and visit. It's very easy.
Starship Operations Manager
Yeah, I think it's a really special place. Yesterday the ship went down the road behind us and I saw families outside going for their, or was on Sunday going for their Sunday stroll and they were greeted by starship going down. And I think that from the very beginning, the thing about starship different than Falcon and other rockets that I'm aware of is we designed it to be mass produced and mass produced at scale. And it's not about building one starship and getting to orbit once. It's about doing it in a sustained and rapid way.
Elon Musk
Yeah, we're aiming for ultimately thousands of ships to be built per year, which is what's needed in order to construct a city on Mars that is self sustaining. And the major fork in the road of destiny will be when the Mars city is capable of surviving, even if the resupply shifts from Earth stop coming for any reason. And that reason could be something cataclysmic, or it could be that civilization simply subsided. There's always this debate throughout history of world civilization end with a bang or a whimper. But either way, if the critical thing is to get to the point where Mars is self sustaining and can survive, even if the resupply ships stop coming for any reason, which means that you need to build an entire base of industry on Mars in order for Mars to survive, for example, it's not simply enough to build a chip like a computer chip factory, but you need the ability to build computer chip factories. So this is going to really take a lot of tonnage. I mean, my guess is at least a million tons to the surface of Mars. And maybe it takes less than that, but it's going to be a lot. But this is a very exciting future. It's one which will ensure the long term survival and prosperity of life and consciousness. And it's the critical stepping stone to get from this solar system to other star systems and perhaps go out there and explore and pass will encounter alien civilizations that maybe, maybe they're alive now but, or maybe they enjoyed a period of prosperity for millions of years, but also died out millions of years ago. So it's humbling to think of the age of the universe according to the standard model of physics being approximately 13.8 billion years old. So an incremental million years would be three digits past decimal point. And if you look at say our civilization and measure our civilization by the first evidence of writing, which is about 5,500 years ago, civilization as measured from the first writing is only one millionth of Earth's existence.
Starship Engineer
Or blip. Yeah, yeah.
Elon Musk
Flash in the pan so far.
Starship Engineer
Yeah. Well, we're getting some cool shots rocket out on the pad right now. We, we tell people like, come down, see it. It's hard to get like a sense of scale of just how massive this thing is. And we were able to catch somebody working on it a little while ago. And like part of the reason you said we're we're sending millions of tons, that's kind of why this, I think.
Starship Operations Manager
In this image, Dan, you can actually see the person working at the bottom of the ship. And as we zoom out, you see the full ship, that sort of two tone silver and black, and then the booster below it. Right. And it really sets the scale which doesn't come across, I think, other than in person. And when I do tours, I like to say starship is real, starship is big, and starship is really big. And I think you can see there and with the factory shots you saw earlier, again we've got flight 10 on the pad, but we got many more behind it.
Elon Musk
Yeah. So I posted a video yesterday of just a brief scan of part of the starship factory and you can get a sense of the scale of the factory. And yeah, I guess we could talk a bit about why starship is the way it is. Like for example, why is half of the ship black and half of it is silver colored. And that's because the bottom half of the ship, the bottom as seen from Oboro entry, has a heat shield on it. So the black there is the heat shield. And then the core structure of the rocket is a special alloy of stainless steel. And that's where you see the sort of shiny silver parts are stainless steel. The reason for steel over aluminum is that the heat of atmospheric entry and the heat of the rocket engines is enough to melt, easily melt aluminum. But steel is much more resilient against both ascent heating, but especially the re entry heating. And you don't have to paint it, which is actually very difficult. To paint a large object that is going through cryogenic cycles and have the paint stay on, it's quite challenging.
Starship Engineer
And so we've talked about it, it's massive. It obviously takes a whole lot of energy to make that thing move. And that's where Raptor really starts to come in. Most advanced engine on the planet. Giant lightsaber.
Elon Musk
No, that's a lightsaber and a half. You would get vaporized in an instant if you were standing in front of Rafter. So yeah, Bunto Crispin, less than a second. So yeah. So in order for. In order to create a fully reusable orbital rocket, you have to advance the state of the art in every part of the rocket. That means the engines have to be better than any engine ever. The structure's got to be better than any structure ever. You've got to have a means of bringing the rocket back to the launch pad. You've got to have a fully reusable orbital heat shield, and that no one has ever made a fully reusable orbital heat shield. The space shuttle, for example, required nine months of refurbishment between flights. So the space shuttle heat shield would come back essentially partially broken and would require many months of refurbishment in order to fly again. What we're trying to achieve here with Starship is to have a heat shield that can be flown immediately. So the ship, both the ship and the booster would be caught by the tower arms and the tower. The booster will be placed immediately back on the launch stand. And the ship's got to orbit Earth at least once, but then could be back potentially in one orbit, but in most cases several orbits. So the ship would come back several hours later, but then be caught by the arms and placed on top of the booster. You could also have multiple ships ready so that a single booster could service five or more ships so that you could be flying the booster every, in theory, every hour. This is kind of a profoundly fast speed, obviously, for the largest flying object by far ever made. But it's the reason why we catch the tower. We catch the booster with the tower arms, and the ship also will be caught with the tower arms because. Because that's the fastest way to get the booster and the ship back to flight. If we had instead put landing legs, which we have done before for the ship tests, we actually had landing legs that flipped out. And we've successfully demonstrated landing with legs. But if you do that, if we were to do that with the booster and ship here, we'd have to land somewhere else with the legs, then lift the rocket, stow the legs, transport the rocket back to the pad, which is very unwieldy when you've got a gigantic thing. Then it would be picked up by these tower arms and placed in the launch mount. That would delay the reusability dramatically and would add a lot of mass with the landing legs. So that's why we catch the rocket with the tower arms, because it's the same tower arms that put the rocket in the launch mount are used to catch the rocket. And that means that we can put the booster back in the launch mount in less than an hour after liftoff. In fact, the booster is going to come back very fast. Like five or six minutes later, this booster is coming back one way or another, or not coming back. So. So then you really have propellant full time, which can be brought down to about 30, 40 minutes. And that means it is theoretically possible to fly the booster again in less than an hour.
Starship Operations Manager
I think, when I think about it, the jet drives up to the Jetway, the people get off, new people get on, and it leaves. You don't want to land the jet on a different airfield and then tow it over to the Jetway. So it's just operationally simpler and faster.
Starship Engineer
Yeah, we've had a lot of success with the booster. 3 for 3 on the catch attempts. When we bring it back, we've reflown one so awesome. And then again, Starship superpowers. The whole thing is reusable. So ship reusability is like what we're working on right now. We've been able to get some really spectacular reentries on a couple of flights, hoping to get this one for reentry on the V2 ship. But, yeah, that. That fully reusable heat shield, that thing that has just never been done before. That's. That's one of the things we're really looking for that data on.
Elon Musk
Yeah, I mean, there are thousands of engineering challenges that remain for both the ship and the booster. But the single, maybe the single biggest one is the reasonable orbital heat shield. We are confident in making a fully reusable orbital heat shield, but it will require many flights, many iterations to figure out where the weak points are in the heat shield, where we need to change the design, either strengthening the tile or changing how big the gap is between tiles, changing what's underneath the tile. There's 100 different variables that we could tweak with the ship tiles, the heat shield tiles. But the only way to know exactly what we should be adjusting is to fly repeatedly and be able to examine the ship upon landing. And we have successfully brought the ship back through the atmosphere and achieved a soft landing multiple times. So we know that this is possible. But we have in the process shed many heat shield tiles. So we need to be able to do this without shedding heat shield tiles and do so repeatedly.
Starship Operations Manager
And I think what you're seeing now is the starship. This is CG of it coming in and landing on the tower, much like the booster. But there's some additional challenges there where we need to make sure we don't scrape the tiles off as we slide along the.
Elon Musk
We can't shuck the heat shield, don't crush the ship.
Starship Operations Manager
Rapid reusability.
Elon Musk
If we shock the tiles, then that's obviously going to fail the reusability test.
Starship Operations Manager
So ships can use the tower to land and catch like the, like the booster here on Earth, where towers are available. And for our initial landings on Mars and other planets, we'll need landing legs that deploy much like what you're seeing here with ship 15. When we did our suborbital test to prove out the precision descent landing, which was a successful test, we actually landed two. One was we were able to actually recover it. And you can see it here in the rocket garden if you visit Starbase.
Elon Musk
Yeah. So the rocket garden that Bill mentioned, we have actually a whole bunch of boosters and ships and we'll be adding to them over time. So you can see an evolution of starship just by driving down the highway.
Starship Engineer
Yeah. So reusability is key. There's some other technologies we're still looking to prove out. Really big one is going to be the on orbit refilling, looking to do that next year. And that's really what's going to kind of unlock, you know, starship going everywhere else, going everywhere, everywhere beyond Earth. And that's something that's again, never been done before. Kind of like that reusable orbital heat shield, but it's going to be something that, that's kind of some of the other secret sauce to starship where we're going to be able to send hundreds of tons per ship to Mars.
Starship Operations Manager
Yeah, I like to think of it as if we get to orbit with a full cargo bay, but we're empty on fuel and oxygen, so basically we're running on fumes. Then we send other ships to dock, transfer propellant and now we made our two stage rocket look like many, many multi stage rocket and we get all of that performance and we can take that full cargo bay now wherever we want to go.
Elon Musk
Yeah. So a crucial technology that we hope to demonstrate next year is this orbital refilling. Much like aerial refueling, it's essential for being able to send significant payload to Mars. So you essentially send, you send a ship to orbit with a few hundred tons of payload, sort of a filled payload bay, but once it gets to orbit, the tanks will be mostly empty. And then you send up additional tanker ships to refill the Mars ship's tanks so that when it so it can thrust from Earth orbit to Mars and have enough propellant left for landing. So this is orbital refilling is also not something that's ever been demonstrated before. So that would be a brand new technology. We obviously have at SpaceX figured out how to dock repeatedly with the space station. So in a lot of ways this is like docking and in some ways it's easier in that the ship SpaceX is docking with its own craft. But no one has ever demonstrated propellant transfer in orbit to the best of our knowledge. And so this would be propellant transfer at very large scale. And but with full reusability and propellant transfer we, those are the key technologies needed for building a city on Mars. And I'm confident that the SpaceX team, which is incredibly talented, will achieve this, these goals and we will be landing ships on Mars in the future and building life on Mars, building greenhouses and life on Mars and ensuring the long term survival of life as we know it. It's important to note here that obviously we are effectively stewards of life here on Earth, that the other creatures cannot build spacecraft and get to other planets. So if there were to be a cataclysmic event like a giant meteor that destroyed the dinosaurs, or ultimately the sun will expand to envelop Earth and destroy all life, we know this is an undisputed fact, then if we don't take life to another planet, life will be destroyed. So it's incumbent upon us to ensure that we do bring life to other planets and ensure long term survival of life as we know it on planet Earth.
Starship Engineer
And I mean, aside from that, there's so much that starship unlocks by being able to do these things, like we'll be able to go to Mars, but there are other just transformational things by being able to take that many people, that much stuff to space for that much less money.
Starship Operations Manager
Yeah, I mean, I think understanding our planet better, being able to move people around the planet, make it feel smaller and more accessible. You could go anywhere on the Earth in less than 40 minutes, basically in terms of flight time. So I really do see starship as being this thing that can connect us. Just like starlink connects our information, this can connect us more physically.
Elon Musk
Yeah. So there's really nothing faster than a rocket. Really an orbital rocket is the fastest thing that we know of, the fastest means of transport. So like you could go from LA to Sydney in less than half an hour. You could go LA to Tokyo in less than half an hour. You could go from New York to Singapore in half an hour. Everything's probably half an hour, basically. Some things might be 10 minutes.
Starship Operations Manager
Yeah, that's true.
Starship Engineer
I mean. Yeah, sign me up for that, please. All right.
Elon Musk
Across the Atlantic in 10 minutes.
Starship Engineer
No problem. Please. Yes, sign me up.
Elon Musk
You're going 25 times the speed of sound, so that's 30 times faster than, than a commercial aircraft.
Starship Engineer
And it's a whole hell of a lot better view.
Elon Musk
Yeah, it's a hell of a view, yeah.
Podcast: Elon Musk Thinking
Host: Astronaut Man
Guests: Elon Musk, Starship Engineer, Starship Operations Manager
Date: August 29, 2025
This episode provides an in-depth update on SpaceX’s Starship program, featuring Elon Musk and his team discussing the vision for Starship, recent technological advances, and the broader goal of making humanity a multiplanetary species. The conversation covers the evolution of the Starbase facility, breakthroughs in rocket engineering, reusability challenges, and the societal implications of rapid, mass space travel.
"We want to be a multi planet species to extend consciousness beyond Earth." – Elon Musk [00:30]
"Life cannot just be about solving one tragic problem after another. There must also be reasons to get up in the morning and be excited about the future." – Elon Musk [00:30]
"This is far beyond any rocket fabrication facility that has ever been built. This is essentially alien level technology." – Elon Musk [02:10]
"It's not about building one starship and getting to orbit once. It's about doing it in a sustained and rapid way." – Starship Operations Manager [03:59] "The major fork in the road of destiny will be when the Mars city is capable of surviving, even if the resupply shifts from Earth stop coming for any reason." – Elon Musk [04:28]
"The reason for steel over aluminum is that the heat of atmospheric entry and the heat of the rocket engines is enough to melt, easily melt aluminum. But steel is much more resilient..." – Elon Musk [07:40]
"Most advanced engine on the planet. Giant lightsaber." – Starship Engineer [08:58] "You would get vaporized in an instant if you were standing in front of Raptor." – Elon Musk [09:14]
"That means that we can put the booster back in the launch mount in less than an hour after liftoff." – Elon Musk [11:20] "It's just operationally simpler and faster." – Starship Operations Manager [12:55]
“Maybe the single biggest one is the reasonable orbital heat shield. We are confident...but it will require many flights, many iterations.” – Elon Musk [13:40]
"The on orbit refilling, looking to do that next year. And that's really what's going to kind of unlock...starship going everywhere else..." – Starship Engineer [16:00] "No one has ever demonstrated propellant transfer in orbit to the best of our knowledge." – Elon Musk [16:55]
"You could go from LA to Sydney in less than half an hour... Everything's probably half an hour, basically. Some things might be 10 minutes." – Elon Musk [19:54], [20:25] "You're going 25 times the speed of sound, so that's 30 times faster than a commercial aircraft." – Elon Musk [20:32]
Elon Musk on Space Inspiration:
"A future where we are a spacefaring civilization is infinitely more exciting than one where we are not." [00:30]
On Gigafactory Scale:
"We're going to be building something called the Gigabay, which is like one of the largest enclosed volumes on Earth. It’s sort of like a gigantic Borg cube." – Elon Musk [02:10]
On Engineering Reality:
"If you look at our civilization and measure...from the first writing, which is about 5,500 years ago, civilization...is only one millionth of Earth's existence." – Elon Musk [06:45]
Humor and Humanity:
"No, that's a lightsaber and a half. You would get vaporized in an instant if you were standing in front of Raptor. So yeah, Bunto Crispin, less than a second." – Elon Musk [09:14]
On Rapid Reusability:
"If we shock the tiles, then that's obviously going to fail the reusability test." – Elon Musk [15:16]
On Earth-to-Earth Potential:
"It's a whole hell of a lot better view." – Starship Engineer [20:36]
The conversation is technical yet accessible, blending Musk’s futurist optimism with engineering realism, humor, and an invitational spirit to witness the Starbase progress in person. The team’s pride in innovation, iterative learning, and the broader mission to advance civilization is palpable throughout.
For full context, listen to the complete episode for richer detail around each topic and Musk’s characteristically candid, expansive thoughts.