In this conversation, John, Bonnie, and Thomas discuss various frameworks on what wisdom is, how it functions, and the different types and scales of complexity in which wisdom may arise. The conversation explores themes of wisdom and complexity with both depth and breadth, navigating the topic philosophically and pragmatically, and ultimately arriving at wisdom's relationship with the "It" beyond all relationship.

This conversation is brought to us by the Respond Network. The Respond Network is a distributed research network focused on addressing the meta-crisis by researching and cultivating wisdom.

Respond Network Practitioners taking place August 7th – 12th, 2023 in Bergerac, France

Timestamps

0:00 - Intro

5:59 - Virtue Reactivation

8:19 - Wisdom vs. Development & Complexity vs. Rootedness

12:47 - Wisdom as a function of Domains of Complexity

17:48 - Wisdom as a function of Relationship

20:30 - Wisdom as the Interplay between Sophia & Phronesis

25:35 - Moving between Scales of Sophia & Phronesis

30:37 - Vertical and Horizontal Axes of Wisdom & Complexity

35:41 - Letting Go of Complexity into New Emergence

38:35 - Receptivity to Spontaneity

40:20 - Reorientation Towards Rootedness

42:50 - Accessing What is Fundamental Through Rootedness

49:59 - John Explicating Bonita's Demonstration of the Topic

51:22 - Mindfulness Mirroring

56:27 - Recognizing the Exemplification of the Sacred as a Function of Wisdom

1:02:34 - The World as a grounding agent for Wisdom

1:05:24 - When and How did 'It' show up?

1:12:10 - The 'It' is Beyond Relationship

1:24:14 - In Story'ing

1:26:14 - Mindfulness Mirroring II

Bonnitta Roy, John Vervaeke, Thomas Steininger - Wisdom & Complexity [RSPND Network]