Daniel and Jordan Hall discuss Jordan’s recent conversion to Christianity and the evolution of his worldview. How did a tech pioneer and futurist intellectual who would have said his chances of being baptized were “exactly zero” only five years ago become a convert? Daniel and Jordan talk about their respective “paths to humility” and the importance of religious community and traditional wisdom in the modern world.

Topics include the tension between innovation and tradition, Game A and Game B, the search for deeply connected communities, the importance of grief, the evolution of modern Christianity, cultural attitudes towards Christianity, and the power of committing to Truth.

0-3:34 Jordan’s recent conversion to Christianity

3:35 The evolution of Jordan’s worldview and his relationship to religion since childhood

9:11 The 2008 financial crisis and the birth of “Game B”

16:55 Searching for “Civium” (seeking out a philosophically aligned community)

23:07 Going to Black Mountain, North Carolina

31:18 Reflections on attending church and turning towards religion

42:06 Getting to humility

47:56 The importance of grief

49:54 “Religion that is not a religion” and the “Two Worlds Mythology”

53:26 Addressing the condemnation of Christianity in modern culture

1:02:57 Jordan’s thoughts on shifts in modern Christianity

1:06:36 The value of religious community and tradition in a neophilic culture

1:12:47 Committing to Truth

1:14:07 Wrap-up