Drew kissed Ky

Summary

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Emergency Intercom – "Drew kissed Ky"

Podcast: Emergency Intercom by iHeartPodcasts
Episode Date: January 9, 2026
Hosts: Enya Umanzor ("Kelly") and Drew Phillips ("Telma")

Episode Overview

This episode of Emergency Intercom blends the hosts’ signature chaotic energy with unexpectedly thoughtful reflections, pivoting between personal anecdotes, hot takes on gig work and tipping culture, and candid mental health talk. The big news teased in the episode’s title – Drew kissed Ky – is revealed, but it’s just one of many moments as the friends riff on everything from haircuts to therapy, New Year’s introspection, the ethics of tech companies, and the seemingly inescapable grind of modern life. Throughout, Enya and Drew maintain their irreverent, meme-ready delivery, peppering conversation with inside jokes and self-aware asides.

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Segment Breakdown & Key Discussion Points

1. Catching Up: New Year, Haircuts, & Life Updates

[02:50–08:44]

• Reunion Energy: The hosts mention it’s been "two or three weeks" since they last spoke ([02:53]), setting a confessional, loose vibe.
• Drew's Hair Reveal: Drew reveals a "boy" haircut, admits it's shorter than expected and changes their face shape—Enya compares hiding behind hair and having a round face ([03:44–07:16]).
  • Quote: "I want my haircut to look like a boy. I want—you're not a girl." – Drew, [04:11]
• Family & Aging: Enya talks about not knowing what they’ll look like as they age because of family trauma and loss ([07:56–08:38]).
  • Dark Humor: "My mom's family is fully nuked by Big Pharma." – Enya, [08:01]

2. The Kiss Heard ‘Round the Pod: Drew Kissed Ky (And Others)

[08:44–10:01]

• Drew's New Year: Drew shares he wore his late brother’s shoes and microdosed mushrooms on NYE, then drops the major reveal: "I kissed Ky on New Year’s." ([08:44–09:21])
  • Enya: "I thought you were going to say something actually sweet."
  • Drew: "Me and Ky shared a kiss. Like, we went—" ([09:26])
  • Also kissed: Rachel Sennott, Role Model.
  • Enya: "So you were low-key tossed."
    Drew: "No, I was passed around."
    Enya: "I was passed around." ([09:58–10:00])

3. DoorDash/Postmates Exposé: The Reality of Gig Economy Work

[10:01–15:41]

• Viral Reddit Post: Drew reads and paraphrases a viral post—allegedly from a dissatisfied coder—exposing DoorDash/Postmates’ exploitative algorithms:
  • Desperation is punished: drivers who accept low-paying orders are given worse ones ([11:13–12:39])
  • The "tip bait": generous tippers’ money subsidizes the company, not drivers
• Impact: Both hosts express horror and guilt over supporting gig companies, especially given personal/family experience with service industry work:
  • Quote: "Your generosity isn’t rewarding the driver, it’s subsidizing us, the coders. You’re paying their wage." – Drew, reading, [12:39]
  • Discussion of changes in law (120% pay floor for gig drivers in LA) and how little that actually does for workers ([15:13–15:41])
• Personal angle: Enya’s family all works hospitality; tipping is survival ([14:25])

4. Moral Dilemmas & Economic Hopelessness

[15:52–22:36]

• Cycle of Poverty: Enya reflects on growing up without money; helping family financially while realizing the struggles never really end ([15:52–17:02]).
• "Everything is Avon": Discussion on how everyone is hustling—from gig work to TikTok drop-shipping to predictive markets and "gambling" online ([21:01–22:36])
  • Raffles are illegal forms of gambling ("Even if it wasn’t for profit, still banned from Venmo for a $20 Oscars bet") ([23:35–24:46])
• Avon Lady-ification of work & Money Apps: Satirical pitch for a "Emergency Intercom Bank," mimicking neobank and MLM trends ([25:06–25:57])

5. AI, Manufactured Consent, and Internet Ethics

[26:02–28:29]

• Endless Monetization: They riff on creators doing AI ads and how that shapes public opinion ("manufactured consent") ([26:53–27:31])
  • Quote: "If a small creator says yes and uses…then people are like, ‘oh, if they're using it, must be okay.’" – Drew, [26:59–27:31]
• Confusion over why anyone uses AI to this extent, suspicion of tech optimism, general doomerism ([27:31–28:23])

6. Family, Miami, and Crypto Bros

[28:29–30:41]

• Florida Upbringing: They joke about growing up in neighboring towns and the "plague" of crypto bros creeping up the Florida coast ([29:00–30:07])
• Crypto Bros and Economy: Rollicking roast of tech-bro culture – "they were all fucking balding losers… nasty, loner freak boys." ([30:15–30:41])

7. Queer Joy: ‘Heated Rivalry’ & TV Talk

[30:53–34:22]

• Gushing about ‘Heated Rivalry’ (queer hockey romance show): intense emotional response, rare positive gay representation ([31:34–34:09])
  • Enya: "Never in my life cried at an episode of television the way I did at episode five." ([32:03])
• Other TV: Brief mentions of Righteous Gemstones, Mad Men, Sharp Objects, Big Little Lies ([34:43–35:14])

8. Therapy, Mental Health, and the Cost of Care

[36:17–42:58]

• Therapist Struggles: Enya and Drew trade stories about finding (and paying for) therapists; complaints include high out-of-pocket costs, insurance loopholes, therapists ending early, and boundary violations (e.g., therapist on social media) ([38:14–40:54]).
  • Quote: "I want someone to look at me in the face and call me psycho and crazy, which I know a therapist won’t do…" – Drew, [37:30]
  • Drew laments $300/hour; only a small amount is reimbursed via insurance ([39:01])
  • Enya’s therapist laughs about being accused of "using her for money" ([42:42])
• Therapy Transparency: "If my therapist just quit and didn’t tell me, I’d 5150 her." ([37:15])
• Therapy as Friendship: Mutual desire for more connection/challenge from a therapist, not just someone who reflects back ([38:14–38:17])

9. Laughs, Farts, Genital Herpes, and Adulthood

[44:01–52:54]

• Bathroom Humor: Enya and Drew riff on farting in public baths, "front wedgies," and airplane bathroom shame ([50:16–52:08])
• On Herpes vs. Pregnancy: "I stigmatize pregnancy before I stigmatize herpes, unironic." ([62:09])
• Pregnancy fears trump all – both hosts freaked out by the concept ([62:05–62:12])

10. Media & Music Recs: What They're Loving Now

[62:05–64:25]

• Drew:
  • "Love By Slime Pain if my son was gay" – a track about a dad’s hopes for his son’s sexuality
  • "Time to Dance" and "The Shoes in September" by Agnes Obel (makes Drew cry) ([63:13])
• Enya:
  • "There Must Be an Angel" by Eurythmics
  • "Touch Me in the Morning" by Class Generation and more from their album ([63:56–64:25])
• TV:
  • Both: still watching ‘Heated Rivalry’ and Righteous Gemstones.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "I kissed Ky on New Year's. Ew."
  – Drew, breaking the titular news ([09:21])

• "Your generosity isn’t rewarding the driver, it’s subsidizing us, the coders. You’re paying their wage."
  – Drew, quoting the gig work exposé ([12:39])

• "Everything is Avon. Everything is 8. Everything’s gonna become a bank soon, guys."
  – Drew, on the proliferation of side hustles ([25:06])

• "If my therapist just quit and didn’t tell me, I’d 5150 her."
  – Enya, on therapy attachment ([37:15])

• "I stigmatize pregnancy before I stigmatize herpes, unironic."
  – Drew, deadpan ([62:09])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |-------------|--------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:53–03:44 | First catch-up, hair revamp, and first friend energy | | 08:44–09:26 | Drew reveals kissing Ky on New Year’s Eve | | 11:13–12:39 | Gig work exploitation exposé and DoorDash/Postmates algorithm| | 14:25–15:41 | Tip culture, contract work, and LA gig worker law | | 18:06–18:24 | Shopify ad; light business chat (skip) | | 21:01–22:36 | Predictive markets as new-age gambling | | 26:02–27:31 | AI, manufactured consent, tech skepticism | | 30:53–34:22 | ‘Heated Rivalry’ TV show emotional deep-dive | | 36:17–42:58 | Therapy struggles, insurance gripes, cost of mental health | | 50:16–52:08 | Plane/bathroom talk, front wedgies explained | | 62:09–62:18 | Herpes vs. pregnancy stigma, "I stigmatize pregnancy..." | | 63:56–64:25 | Media and music recommendations |

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Tone & Takeaways

The episode is raucous, self-aware, and emotionally unguarded. Moments of irreverence (prolapsed butthole humor, bathroom stories) are juxtaposed with authentic, often vulnerable talk about loss, mental health, and economic insecurity. Enya and Drew’s chemistry is on full display, and major personal revelations (like Drew’s kiss with Ky) are dropped as punchlines—the true focus is on shared experience in a changing, often absurd world.

For new listeners:
Expect stream-of-consciousness comedy, candid mental health talk, and pop culture commentary all in a single, sprawling conversation. This is a podcast that delivers both “no thoughts, just vibes” and small, blistering truths about being young-ish, queer, and online in 2026.

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Transcript

[Kelly]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Dani Shapiro]

Guaranteed Human.

[Maria Hinojosa]

I'm Maria Hinojosa, host of Latino USA. Venezuelans around the world are celebrating the takedown of former President Maduro. But inside the country, there is fear and silence. And in the United States, people are concerned about Donald Trump's rogue tactics. Listen to Latino usa, the fall of Maduro and the rise of an unconstrained Trump. That's on your iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever. Get your podcasts.

[Brad (Brad vs. Everyone podcast)]

Social media trend is landing some gen zers in jail. The progressive media darling whose public meltdown got her fired and the massive TikTok boycott against Target. That actually makes no sense. You won't hear about these online stories in the mainstream media, but you can keep up with them and all the other entertaining and outrageous things happening online in media and in politics with the Brad vs. Everyone podcast. Listen to the Brad vs. Everyone podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dani Shapiro]

Hi, I'm Dani Shapiro.

[Telma]

We were in the car like a rolling stone came on and he said, there's a line in there about your mother. And I said, what? What I would do if I didn't feel like I was being accepted is.

[Ed Helms]

Choose an identity that other people can't have.

[Kelly]

I knew something had happened to me in the middle of the night, but I couldn't hold on to what had happened.

[Dani Shapiro]

These are just a few of the moving and important stories on my 13th season of family Secrets. Listen to family secrets on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Camille Stewart Gloucester]

Whether it is getting swatted or just hateful messages, online, there is a lot of harm. And even just reading the comments.

[Dr. Joy Hardin Bradford]

That's cybersecurity expert Camille Stewart Gloucester on the Therapy for Black Girls podcast. Every season is a chance to grow. And the Therapy for Black Girls podcast is here to walk with you. I'm Dr. Joy Hardin Bradford, and each week we dive into real conversations that help you move with more clarity and confidence. This episode, we're breaking down what really happens to your information online and how to protect yourself with intention. Listen to Therapy for Black Girls on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your pod.

[Kelly]

Oh, my God. I literally love him.

[Telma]

I Always Bruno Mars album.

[Kelly]

Oh, my God. I'm actually. I know. Oh, my gosh.

[Rhianna Dillon]

Okay.

[Kelly]

Welcome back to Emergency Intercom, guys.

[Telma]

This is low key. The first time we've spoken in two or three weeks.

[Kelly]

I know.

[Telma]

My baby, my mama.

[Kelly]

My baby. I love your Haircut.

[Telma]

Oh, my God, I forgot I was going to do a big reveal.

[Kelly]

You're giving like Dom. I wish we were hockey players. I'd fucking rub myself while you watch.

[Telma]

Wait, I'm going to leave the frame and then come back in and we're gonna reveal my hair. Everybody, everybody, just be so excited for me. We're leaving all that.

[Kelly]

Act like you've never seen it. And, like, if you're gonna make an edit of Drew, which you should because he looks cute, use these clips because he's gonna serve the crown.

[Telma]

Okay, guys, I have something major to show you something.

[Kelly]

Drew, you cut your hair. Oh, Ew. Why'd you do that?

[Telma]

I don't know. I stand.

[Kelly]

I hate. Like, that's one of your ticks that, like, I don't hate, but I hate that, like, now when your tongue comes out of your mouth, I just assume you're gonna.

[Telma]

Guys, I did get a haircut. I told my barber angel at spoken wheel goat of all time to.

[Kelly]

You said you told him to make you want to.

[Telma]

I want to be a boy. I was like, I want my haircut to look like a boy. I want. You're not a girl.

[Kelly]

Drew heard everybody saying, who's gonna be the boy? And he said, me.

[Telma]

Yeah, actually, me. I'm the boy in the relationship. No, I did go a little shorter than I woke up thinking I did. And then I got in the chair and I was like, actually, no, just chop it all off. Like, it'll grow back if it doesn't. But it is crazy how I don't have my curls anymore. Like, they just vanish.

[Kelly]

It's like when I cut all my hair off. Oh, my God.

[Telma]

Vimya. Bring back Vimya.

[Kelly]

Oh, my gosh. Oh, my God. Actually, that's a good transition. I don't know if you know transition.

[Telma]

India. Oh, my God, that's a good transition.

[Kelly]

Sorry, I got like a. I found out recently I have like, an account that has a Netflix account on it, and I've never used that account, and I don't remember.

[Telma]

That was me last night.

[Kelly]

Really, like, finding one of those accounts.

[Telma]

Oh, wait, no, no, no. I logged into your Netflix somewhere.

[Kelly]

Okay, well, I had. I like, I logged into a Netflix on my phone at my parents house and I was like, what account is this? And it's a random account that I think I made because so many people have my login that I made a new account. But then I was like, wait, I don't really. I have such a vague memory of making this account. And I hadn't watched anything, so I was like, damn, did I make the account? And I got mad as. And I'm like, it. I don't even want to watch this. But, yeah, I thought I was getting an email about that because I emailed to. I was, like, going to cancel it, but I, like, think I signed up for, like, a deal thing. Like, I think I signed myself up for life.

[Telma]

Yeah, you did a 360 deal with Netflix. It's over.

[Kelly]

I remember the first time I got a gym membership, I didn't realize, like.

[Telma]

How scary, scummy, and how, like, hard they make it to quit.

[Kelly]

Yeah, also, I meant scammy, but it came out as, like, scummy, but, like, scammy.

[Telma]

Scammy, scummy. Same thing. Like, yeah, like, you sign your life away for a year at most places, and you can break that contract unless you give them a finger, is what I hear.

[Kelly]

You take.

[Telma]

No, they take your finger.

[Kelly]

Oh, you're so annoying. Because I thought you were saying, like, okay, also, no, can't you just go in? That's actually the worst part is you can't just go in and be like, I don't want to do this anymore.

[Telma]

Because it's like, still get texts to this day from our old gym being like, hey, like, we miss you. Come back.

[Kelly]

I know. I got that, too. I was like, girl, no.

[Telma]

And also, for some reason, our old gym is always on sale. It's always. There's always a sale going. So it's literally, like, I literally, it is always on sale. They're begging people to come back. But, yeah, I got a haircut. I really like it.

[Kelly]

You look like a little boy. I'm obsessed with you. You look like. Like a man. I think.

[Telma]

Yeah. I do think it ages me a lot more than I thought it did. And I also think it makes my lower half of my face a lot fatter. I'm not calling myself fat, but, like, it just. It.

[Kelly]

It gives the illusion that your face is whiter than it was before.

[Telma]

Exactly.

[Kelly]

Well, also because we're pretty similar in the fact that we have, like, rounder faces and we are people who I tend to hide behind my hair. Like, but it is because, like, having a rounder face, I think is good because, like, thank God we have collagen, because I was talking to my mom about this. Like, my stepmom.

[Telma]

I love college.

[Kelly]

When we were at the beach, she was like, oh, my God, I haven't sat in the sun for so long. Like, I'm actually. I actually might Get a tan. Because, like, she's been pale for like three years because she just doesn't go and chill at the beach anymore. And I was like, yeah, I have to be a bit careful. I need to put sunscreen or something on because, like, I don't know, I'm starting to get scared. And I made the joke to her and it actually killed her. Oh, my God. No, it didn't.

[Telma]

Knock on wood. Knock on wood.

[Kelly]

That's happened before.

[Telma]

And that's. That's linoleum, babe. That's laminate. There's no real wood in here.

[Kelly]

But I was like, it's actually so up that my birth mom died and all the women in her family that I at least knew of all died. So, like, my mom's family is fully nuked by Big Pharma. Like, fully, like, died.

[Telma]

I'm not laughing, but just like, like.

[Kelly]

They dumb, but yeah, it's fucked up on an emotional level. But, like, that I could get through. I have no way of knowing what the fuck I'm going to look like when I'm older because, like, I don't look like my fucking grandma. Like, what I'm.

[Telma]

Grandma is the baby.

[Kelly]

Oh, my God. The grandma is the baby because the grandma is Jehovah's Witness. Like, oh, my God.

[Telma]

No. It's crazy. Oh, speaking of family getting nuked by Big Pharma, I did wear my dead brother's shoes on New Year. And guess what I did. Molly, no. Oh, I wish. I wish. I took. I took like a little baby microdose of micro dose of mushrooms, period. And on top of that, something major happened. Unironically, like, major in like a very serious, big, ginormous way. I mean, specifically ginormous because of who I did it with. I kissed Kai on New Year's. Ew.

[Kelly]

I thought you were gonna say something like, actually sweet. Like I thought you were.

[Telma]

That is sweet.

[Kelly]

I guess. Yeah, whatever.

[Telma]

Me and Kai shared a kiss. Like, we went.

[Kelly]

Okay.

[Telma]

I wish he was here to back it up, but he decided to go on vacation and tell us literally last night.

[Kelly]

I know. Oh, my God. Don't, don't, don't get me out my body. Don't get me out my body. Like, oh, my God.

[Telma]

But yeah, me and Kai kissed. It was very sweet.

[Kelly]

That is sweet. Yeah.

[Telma]

I also kissed role model. Oh, yeah. I kissed Rachel Cenette.

[Kelly]

Okay, so you were low key tossed.

[Telma]

No, I was passed around.

[Kelly]

I was passed around.

[Telma]

Guys, I've been eating so fucking good lately. It's crazy, I know. Oh, my God. So crazy because I've been eating meals that I have been cooking. Slash preparing cooking. I use loosely assembling assemble, assemble. Because I'm sure you've seen it by now. I just saw a TikTok about it today that was posted a little, little while ago. But there was this, I think it was it doordash or postmates. Like either doordash or postmates. One of the same. 2. Two birds of the same or two wings of the same bird, two sides to the same corner.

[Kelly]

It's like trying to differentiate like who owns Nesquik and like Hershey's and like all that. I'm like, they all own each other. Like they all literally the illusion of chess. The one is just like come swapping the same spit to want another.

[Telma]

Like who wants to do that? No, literally though.

[Kelly]

Like they're just sharing the same like money.

[Telma]

Okay, I, I read this and it shook me to my core. Enough to start cooking my own meals. And you know how big that is for me.

[Kelly]

That is crazy because I'm like, what are you about to say?

[Telma]

Okay, I'm posting this from a library WI fi on a burner laptop because I'm technically under a massive NDA. I don't care anymore. I put in my two weeks yesterday and honestly, I hope they sue me. I've been sitting on this for about 8 months just watching code get pushed to production and I can't sleep at night knowing I helped build this machine. So like it's, it's a lot. Go find and read it for yourself. But like I'll just read you a little tidbit of it. This is like what shocked me the most. That made me feel the worst. If a driver usually logs on at 10pm and accepts every garbage three dollar order instantly without hesitation, the algorithm tags them as a high desk or as high desperation. Once they are tagged, the system then deliberately stops showing them high paying orders. The logic is, why Pay this guy $15 to run when we know he's desperate enough to do it for six? We save the good tips for the casual drivers to hook them and gamify their experience while the full timers get grinded into dust. So it's literally like Fortnite. When you log in for the first time in two years and they give you four games that you win back to back to back, you think you're the greatest fucking player in the world. They do that to new drivers where it's like, holy shit. Like I made 100 bucks tonight in four hours. Like that's fucking crazy. And then. Oh, and then if the algorithm predicts you as a high tipper and, and you'll likely drop $10, it offers a driver or offers the driver a measly $2 base pay. If you tip $0, it offers them an $8 base pay just to get the food moved. The results, is that it or the results is that your generosity isn't rewarding the driver, it's subsidizing us, the coders. You're paying their wage, so we too. So basically it, it was, it was so jarring. Just like hearing like a company be this truly evil. And then also it talks about like the regulatory response fee or driver benefit fee that it isn't going to the driver. And then. Oh my God. No, it just, it literally just freaked me out in a way that I like haven't been freaked out at something in, in a long time. Like, and I know this like happens.

[Kelly]

But there's something different about like whether. Because even though that guy, I'm assuming posted it anonymously and is assuming he's gonna get like found out about talking about it and that's why he's talking about being sued. Even if there is a world where this is some fictitious thing, somebody would say it is so aligned with the reality we're existing in and it really does kind of shatter a veil because there is like, at least for me one, I've always been like an obnoxious tipper because everyone in my family works in like the food industry. And like my mom is a like full time waitress. Like that's what she's always done. Like every one of my aunts and uncles like works restaurants, like that is in our family. So I have heard my whole upbringing about like tipping and how it's like such a necessary part of survival.

[Telma]

Get this. They're. Sorry, keep going. I was just going to say like there's not a base pay for Uber drivers or for postmates drivers. They're not getting like an hourly salary at all. It's like contract work which is even more fucked up. Like they get paid per.

[Kelly]

Wait, so are they technically having to do their taxes as self employed people?

[Telma]

I think, I think they're contract workers.

[Kelly]

Okay, okay, okay. Because I was.

[Telma]

I mean, but self employment taxes are insane.

[Kelly]

That's what I'm saying. Because that's like a huge thing. Like even with like, oh my God. I mean like it, like it, like let's get into it because I'm so like, what I'm about to say is like I'M trying to think of independent.

[Telma]

Contractors, but I think in la, they recently passed a law where they have to like, it's like something like 120% of. So say like a Postmates driver works for four hours and only makes six dollars. Or works for an hour and only makes six dollars. Postmates then has to cover 120 per up to 120%. So like 100. So they'd have to pay like double. 17.

[Dr. Joy Hardin Bradford]

Yeah.

[Telma]

Dollars and then some to make sure they're getting an hourly pay, which, like a good step. But then you think about a 17 paycheck and you're like, I mean, yeah.

[Kelly]

Oh my God. I was talking to my mom about this because, like, I mean, if anybody's kept up with me long enough, you know that like, I don't come from money or like anything of that nature, like, anything close to that. And every, every one of my siblings is like working again in customer service or like some sort of retail job or like restaurant job. Like, everyone in my family partakes in that, like, path. And it is insane to really think about. Like, I remember when I was like 23, that was like the point where I was like, okay, I feel like I can like splurge on myself and still be able to like show up for my family financially. And there was like this kind of like naivete about everything that I was like, oh, yeah, just like, as you grow, it gets easier. But I'm like, oh my God, no it doesn't. Because I've now seen my parents who still have like young kids to take care of their teenagers. Like, once you are in that loophole of like below the poverty line, you really are just like forced to live a life where your head is just above the water.

[Telma]

Like, guys, a new year is coming. Channel that fresh start energy and launch a new business, babes.

[Kelly]

I mean, this whole episode, all we talk about is how many things we put off last year that could have came to friction this year if we actually put our foot forward. And I think Shopify is the easiest starting point for starting a business. And a lot of our endeavors are our little quirky businesses we want to start.

[Telma]

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[Kelly]

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[Telma]

Stop waiting and start selling with Shopify. Sign up for your $1 per month trial and start selling today at shopify.com intercom go to shopify.com intercom that's shopify.com interco hear your first this year with Shopify by your side.

[Maria Hinojosa]

I'm Maria Hinojosa, host of Latino usa. Venezuelans around the world are celebrating the takedown of former President Maduro, but inside the country there is fear and silence, and in the United States, people are concerned about Donald Trump's rogue tactics. Listen to Latino usa, the fall of Maduro and the rise of an unconstrained Trump. That's on your iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Ed Helms]

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[Telma]

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[Ed Helms]

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[Rhianna Dillon]

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[Ed Helms]

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[Dr. Joy Hardin Bradford]

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[Camille Stewart Gloucester]

Us, we are in a divisive time where our comments are weaponized against us. And so what we find is a lot of Black women are standing up and speaking out because they feel the brunt of the pain.

[Dr. Joy Hardin Bradford]

Each week we explore the tools and insights that help you move with purpose, whether you're navigating something new or returning to yourself. If you're ready for thoughtful Guidance and grounded support. This is the place for you. Listen to therapy for black Girls on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Kelly]

And then. But. But then, like, I don't know, I think about, like, Postmates and, like, we all know that partaking in, like, any sort of thing like this, there is something to it. Like, we all know there has to be something to it, because you even think about, like, I know a lot of people in my family who have, like. Who know, have friends who, like, do the whole drop shipping on Face on Tik Tok Live now. And, like, I have people in my family talking about that. And it's kind of like the Avon lady vacation of the world, like, every single. Yeah. Because, like, in my head, I was like, okay, yeah, Postmates is kind of like, you know who's winning those replacing, like, delivery drivers. In my head, they were getting paid, like, delivery drivers. Like, in my head, it was an hourly thing and then some. But I guess again, that's like.

[Telma]

But it's like, also like a catch 22 because it's like, oh, if I stop using Postmates, like, Postmates like you for being scammers now, all the people.

[Kelly]

Who have decided to rely on that are, like, out of love.

[Telma]

Yeah. It's such a conundrum. So I don't know. I literally. If. If anybody knows what to do in this situation, enlighten me, because I don't know. But everything starting to feel like it.

[Kelly]

Was the, like, how much I talked about, like, bitcoin and, like, digital coins. And it feels like literally that changed everything because everyone was like, wait, I knew I could do this for money, but I didn't know I could get access to that kind of money essentially by, like, gambling your life challenge, like, gambling everything.

[Telma]

I mean, don't even get me started about, like. I don't know how to say it. Cashy Kashi or poly market. It's that, like, literally, you don't want me to get me started.

[Kelly]

It's park episode. About that.

[Telma]

I haven't. I haven't seen the new ones, but there. I think so it's just. I think they call it, like, predictive markets or something. And it's just like, you can bet on, like. I mean, for example, like, you could. Someone could set up a bet on you and I on this website and be like, there's a 75 chance that drew is gonna say the word gay or say the phrase I'm not gay in this episode. And then people can gamble. And on that. And if I say I'm not gay, then the people that said yes when the people said that said, no lose. And it's just like, you can gamble and like that. And then there's, like, it just opens up this, like, whole new avenue of insider trading where, like. Like. And there's, like, barely any regulation on it. Like, I could be the one setting up these gambling.

[Kelly]

That's why I'm thinking, because, like, isn't gambling illegal in California?

[Telma]

Gambling, they call it something else. They call it, like, predictive markets.

[Kelly]

What's insane is, like, I wanted to. This is gonna sound ridiculous and, like, maybe one day I'll explain, but I was going to do this. Like, what is it called? What was the thing I was gonna do? I was, like, getting art from all of my friends, and I was gonna, like, sell, like, each ticket for a dollar.

[Telma]

A raffle.

[Brad (Brad vs. Everyone podcast)]

A raffle.

[Kelly]

I was gonna do a raffle. And, like, me and Sabrina were, like, setting it up and looking into it. We hit the blockade that raffles are considered gambling. Even though, like, it wasn't a thing. It was going to be a donation thing. It was, like, not. None of the money was coming to us. We weren't, like, buying anything to resell. Like, we would have had to physically send every single person who bought a ticket something in the mail so that it wasn't considered gambling, which is fudgeing insane, because what the fuck are we put. You're putting a bet down, bitch. I've been blocked. I've been banned from Venmo since 2017 because my boyfriend at the time had me do a bet with him and his friends on the Oscars, and I hadn't even seen any of those boy movies, and I lost. So I sent the $20 to our friend and I said, you won. And I've been banned for gambling.

[Telma]

B A N N E D. Bans Banned. Banned. Shadow ban.

[Kelly]

Why am I low key Shadow banned on Venmo.

[Telma]

Yeah, wait, let's wake that up.

[Kelly]

Like, nobody's requesting anything. But. Yeah, that's really, really spooky. I mean, yeah, it's just everything is Avon. Everything is eight.

[Telma]

Everything's gonna become a bank soon, guys. With that said, emergency intercom bank is dropping soon. Right now, if you invest, if you put. If you load $100 into our app, you'll get points on emergency intercom.

[Maria Hinojosa]

Yes.

[Kelly]

Yeah.

[Telma]

That gives you access to an extra second per episode. So $100 in the Emergency Intercom app gives you 100 seconds extra of content. And if you forget about the money, don't worry. Leave it in there. We have access to it. Then we can take that money and then invest it into the stock market. And then when people come asking for their money back, it's like, oh, okay, here's your $100 back. But I made $20 on the stock market on it. It's genius. It's. It's literally interest free.

[Kelly]

I can't believe some of y' all move so fucking sneak.

[Telma]

Mr.

[Kelly]

Beast.

[Telma]

Mr. Beast. I see you, Mr.

[Kelly]

Beast. Well, okay, Actually, let's see. I do want to say one thing, and I will make this very fudgeing clear. We are two people. As much as y' all love to remind us, pushing 30. The we live with another pushing 30 year old in a house together, and we've all lived together and split rent together our whole lives. So I want to make it very clear, if I had a your life, I'm gonna get a house and get out this money, I'd be gone. So I want to make that clear before we, like, continue to say it, like, what we're about to talk about. But it is insane. And, like, it's not admirable. Hold on, my mom's calling. Oh, but yeah, like, it is actually. It is insane. Insane. It is insane to think about, like, how calculated some people move and.

[Telma]

And how they say yes to everything.

[Kelly]

Yeah.

[Telma]

I mean, because, like, manufactured consent.

[Maria Hinojosa]

What?

[Telma]

Just with AI, they're like. Like, when. Like a small creator. I saw Caleb Heron talking about it, but he was like, when a small creator says, like, yes, and uses like, or takes money from Google Gemini to like, do an ad on their podcast about it, it like, it's kind of like, oh, this small creator is doing an ad for it. Like, maybe half the people are like, fuck AI, but the other half are kind of like, ooh, if they're using it, then it must be okay.

[Kelly]

I just don't. I mean, I've said from the jump, and I don't give a fuck. I've never understood. And this is coming from somebody who, again, y' all like to remind me I'm stupid. So it's coming from a pretty stupid person. But from the jump, I couldn't understand why on God's green now yellow earth, you would be scorched to like, what the are you looking up, bro? Like, what are you doing? Like, I. I just don't understand. I've never understood. I can never put the pieces together. I can never envision. And this is coming. We do this job because we grew up very Lonely, like, duh. Like, that is why, like, I have this innate need to, like, entertain and have eyes on me. And even then, big family, huh?

[Telma]

And big family.

[Kelly]

I know. Too big. Too big.

[Telma]

Too big. Too big of a family, baby. Like, roll it back two or three.

[Kelly]

Also, like, everyone was family. Everyone was family. We are all family. We're from the family.

[Telma]

The family. Wait, guys, we have something to reveal to you.

[Maria Hinojosa]

What?

[Telma]

Me and Enya have actually known each other for 20, 25ish years. Yeah. And this has been a big psychological operation.

[Kelly]

Yeah. No, we did grow up, like, only two towns over.

[Telma]

No. One town over.

[Kelly]

No. Because we used to walk. We used to walk to each other's house, so it felt like so much longer.

[Telma]

I didn't grow up in Texas. Wait, is Boca Raton a nice neighborhood?

[Kelly]

Boca Raton is where the, like, crazy white people, like, nasty.

[Telma]

Okay. I did not grow up there. I did not grow up.

[Kelly]

Yeah, that's. I'm pretty sure I grew up on, like, an Epstein.

[Telma]

Yeah, I was gonna say I grew up on Palm. Is it Palm Beach? Is that Trump's land?

[Kelly]

West Palm Beach?

[Telma]

Yeah. I grew up on West Palm Beach.

[Kelly]

Okay. Period.

[Telma]

Yeah.

[Kelly]

Oh, wait, am I. I think I'm mixing up Boca Raton and West Palm Beach. But to me, same thing. Cuz I'm pretty sure it's like, in the same little. To me, anything once you're passing Hollywood. Like, if you're going up north from Miami. Actually, even before that, I'm trying to think of, like, how north closing in on you.

[Telma]

It's closing in on you.

[Kelly]

I'm like, even by Aventura. It's like a different world. And it is spreading. It is spreading like it's a play.

[Telma]

And when I say it, the crypto people like crypto.

[Kelly]

The white crypto bros. And then sometimes it. I'm like, damn. Like, guys.

[Telma]

And then their argument is like, oh, without us, your economy wouldn't be stimulated.

[Dr. Joy Hardin Bradford]

Okay.

[Telma]

Who cares?

[Kelly]

Wait, that's crazy. You say that because no one fucks with you.

[Telma]

Yeah. You're all. The thing is, is they're all fucking losers. They were all fucking balding losers because.

[Kelly]

They'Re not booming a room.

[Telma]

They're not making a party boom.

[Kelly]

They're not made like, no.

[Telma]

Like them in high school. Like nasty, nasty, nasty, loner freak boys that are trying to, like, scam young children into buying their course. And, like, they're living these false lives that are very unobtain even for themselves. And it's just crazy. It's just crazy to me.

[Kelly]

Also, even as somebody again, I like in my head I've become a brat.

[Telma]

In terms of like Wait, Brat story. Connor story on brat.

[Kelly]

Connor story on brat.

[Telma]

Yes, your brat episode. Heated rivalry. Guys. Insert the clip, insert the clip. Okay, I may look disgusting and dirty and I haven't showered in two days because I have. But hold on, wait, We all know, we all know who. Okay, no, it's 1:41 in the morning.

[Kelly]

What am I doing?

[Telma]

Not any of sharing the screen with a star.

[Kelly]

The silver screen.

[Telma]

And I want him on the episode the next. I want him on an episode.

[Kelly]

I still haven't finished it because I was like, I want to watch it in TV on bed because I've been watching it in my, on my iPad, at my parents house.

[Telma]

I watched it on TV on couch at night with fire going and Enya. It was one of the most magical experiences of my life. I have never in my life. I'm about to start crying now. Never in my life cried at an episode of television the way I did at episode five of this season. Even episode six. But like episode five was so major. Like oh my God, it's so good.

[Kelly]

It is really amazing.

[Telma]

It's just so stupid.

[Kelly]

And I, I can't lie, I was so terr. Because if you've been listening for a while, you know how I get like. If somebody tells me to like something, I hate it. Like I just, I can't help it. I can't help.

[Telma]

I started like reverse psychology you where I'm like, you won't like it.

[Kelly]

I know, literally. And it worked. Cuz you were like, oh, I don't think it's going to be your cup of tea.

[Telma]

I was being genuine because it was like gay butts. But like, oh my God, their asses are crazy. Like and I don't know if that's problematic to say.

[Kelly]

It's just shot. Well, they're both like really good actors. I like the dialogue. I think they have amazing chemistry. The cast, casting directors killed it with these two motherfuckers because it really could have been some other shit. Like that's what I was worried about because a lot of times like I don't give a fuck about what people do behind closed doors. If you're gonna put yourself in that position, like put that shit. Oh, I almost just sang R. Kelly.

[Telma]

Oh, but that shit in remission. Wait me to cancer, Meet a cancer. Put that shit in remission. Hot and fresh out. The doctor's office.

[Kelly]

Hot and fresh out. The chemo.

[Telma]

Yes, there it is. See, look at the way we bounce off each other. We're so talented. Ooh. But, yeah, very. I found out a lot of things about that show. It was, like, shot very. On, like, a very low budget, which I thought was incredible. Like, you can still do it. It was funded by, like, the Canadian government, which I thought was really incredible to, like, like, put that much money and faith into a gay show major. And then, like, I. I saw them, like, talking girl, I am so in deep. Like, every edit, every interview, world building too.

[Kelly]

The, like, other, like, like, oh, the other time jumps. The other characters having their own thing. They did a really good job of, like, it never got confusing, like, And I feel like that's really hard.

[Telma]

But that is also, like, so integral to the gay experience. Like, a moment like that. I don't know. It was just. It was really, really. It's just special. It's just special. And then the last episode, I'm coming to the cottage.

[Kelly]

Like, I don't know what you're talking about.

[Telma]

You don't know what I'm talking about? I'm gonna stop now. But, guys, if you haven't tuned in, which I would be so shocked that my girls and my gays have not tuned in to heated rivalry.

[Kelly]

Did you see the grandma who was happy as about it?

[Telma]

They do stuff. Like, they show stuff. They show stuff. They show stuff.

[Kelly]

Like, sexy stuff. Like, oh, my God, that's so amazing. But, yeah, I'm trying to think if I watched anything else. I watched that. I was watching Righteous Gemstones.

[Telma]

Oh, wow.

[Kelly]

Yeah, I watched, like, a bunch of it. I think I got to season three and then I stopped.

[Telma]

I watched the first episode of, like, six TV shows and nothing has hooked me fully yet like Mad Men. I'm giving it a chance because I'm like, oh, that's like, a pretty cool concept.

[Kelly]

That was like, Mad Men is just like, we're gonna fuck you and then fuck you, and then you're gonna come and fuck me.

[Telma]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the first episode was, like, kind of cool, but seeing cheating on the silver screen really haunts me. Like, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. But what else did I watch? I watched Sharp Objects. That was incredible. I need a shot. And then I started Big Little Lies. And then I stopped because I was like, I need to watch this with someone. Like, this is so cool. Like, the cast is fucking crazy. If someone dies and you make a post about it, trust and believe. I will do everything in my power to figure out how that died. And, like, I love you and I respect your privacy, but, like, just know. I need to know. I need to know bad. And everyone who's in their head thinking about my dead brother, don't ask. That's my. That's my personal information.

[Kelly]

That's my life. That's my personal life.

[Telma]

That's my personal life.

[Kelly]

But we don't bring that here.

[Telma]

On the flip side, if someone else.

[Kelly]

If you relate, let me know.

[Telma]

Yeah, if you relate, I would like.

[Kelly]

To know exactly what happened and when and why and how and where were you. Where were you when it happened? Wow. I mean, I can just say that I am so happy unironically. Like, I've. I've been in such a good mood recently. I am so happy and period. And then I cried to my therapist about it, and I was like, thank you so much, because I literally.

[Telma]

God is good. God is giving. God is great.

[Kelly]

Yeah. I literally got so lucky because every time I talk about therapy with somebody and they're like, my therapist is crazy. My therapist, like, doesn't speak to me anymore. My therapist, like, quit, like, randomly didn't tell me what. I would really be, like, so confused if my. If my therapist did that. Actually, I would 5150 her. I would 5150. I'd be like, that's just not in her nature. That's odd. That's just not in her nature. She's mad, chill. She wouldn't do that. Like, she would at least text me because we're so close. Like, to me, me, a crazy person who pays someone to speak to them, like, once a week. We're so close.

[Telma]

Oh, that's your best friend.

[Kelly]

Wait, what's up with you and your therapist?

[Telma]

Oh, yeah, I didn't. We haven't really talked about it on here.

[Kelly]

Sorry.

[Telma]

I just keep forgetting. I've been noticing that I started therapy, and I found. I started therapy, like, a while ago. That therapist and I just didn't click. We didn't have good rapport. I want someone to look at me in the face and call me psycho and crazy, which I know a therapist won't do. I'm just a psycho. Psycho. But I. I just need someone to kind of challenge me and challenge my perspective and, like, not, like, agree and just mirror and say everything I'm saying to them back to me without. I mean, I know they're not supposed to add to the conversation, but, like, I'm looking for a friend, basically, is what I'm looking for. No, I just. I just.

[Kelly]

I'm looking for a really Smart friend who went to college for being a good friend.

[Telma]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. But I finally kind of found that in this guy. And I also decided I need like, like an older gay man to be my therapist.

[Kelly]

My therapist is an older gay woman.

[Telma]

Yeah, like I. And then I. Well, I'll get to that in a second, but we've been having great conversations. It's been a movie. I've been obsessed with it, but big. But he's not covered by my insurance. And when I was booking my appointments with him, I was like, oh, like at the end of the month, like I can call my insurance and be like, hey, I did four sessions and the sessions totaled in 1200 over the month, mind you. 300 per session.

[Kelly]

That's crazy.

[Telma]

Crazy vibes. So I called my. Or I was gonna call my insurance and be like, hey, I paid 1200 in therapy. Because every therapist I talked to is like, oh, if you're not on my insurance then like. Or if I'm not on your insurance then like you can just call your insurance at the end of the month and get up to 90% back on your therapy. What I found out is that my insurance company not only does not cover 90%, they cover 60% of the average cost of therapy in California. Meaning the average cost of therapy in California. They can kind of claim whatever the they want. They say it's $60. So on $1200 of therapy, I'm getting back literally $80. So I was like, I don't know if that's worth it. How do you find him through the Internet. And then I found out he has like a social media presence.

[Kelly]

And you know what?

[Telma]

I hope he breaks Hippo so I can sue him.

[Kelly]

I don't think there's no, there is something wrong with that. That there's actually something deeply flawed with that. Unless. Cuz there are people who have a social media presence who I adore, who are using their. Like you go doctor like you, you're spreading people.

[Telma]

Okay, that's his vibe.

[Kelly]

That's different. I thought you meant like.

[Telma]

No, no, no. He's like, he's on there like being.

[Kelly]

Like put your finger down if you've ever like I thought that was the tea.

[Telma]

He's on there talking about like oh, if you're like a gay man and you have like walls built up, here's why. And just like like breaking down those walls and barriers and I guess is.

[Kelly]

That why he's so taxed? Cuz that's like.

[Telma]

I think that's why he's so Taxed. Yeah, but really like, the guy really, like our sessions. But the last two sessions.

[Kelly]

I can't. I can't.

[Telma]

He ended it 15 minutes early both times.

[Kelly]

No, that's crazy.

[Telma]

I pay for. I pay $300 for an hour. Refund me a hundred bucks. How about that?

[Kelly]

No, that's crazy.

[Telma]

Also.

[Kelly]

Yeah, my. I mean, my therapist is not covered by my insurance, especially because when I got her, I didn't. I didn't get insurance until like.

[Dr. Joy Hardin Bradford]

Like, when did you get insurance?

[Kelly]

20, 23.

[Telma]

Yeah.

[Kelly]

Yeah. Before that dam.

[Telma]

I went a year without insurance.

[Kelly]

I mean, damn. I went my whole life.

[Telma]

And look at you now. Hey, you're insured, babe.

[Kelly]

But what the. Was I going to say?

[Telma]

Therapy, $15.

[Kelly]

Oh. By the time I got it, I had been with my therapist for so long, and it's 120 a session, which.

[Telma]

I would be so happy when I started.

[Kelly]

When I started, it was 90. And like, that's like. I think it went up to that the next year. Yeah, because I, like, started with her the year.

[Telma]

Oh, no, no, Shrinkflation, your therapist is getting smaller.

[Kelly]

She's going to disappear. But yeah, she, like, I think raised it the next year or like two years in. And then she stopped, like, raising it. And I. And I'm nosy. And one time I went because I was thinking about, like, I love my therapist so much. In my dream, she could, like, be the therapist of everyone I love because I think she's perfect. And then I went on her profile on Psychology Today, and her price is higher than what she charges me. One time I told her that Drew used to make a joke because, like, she, like, we. I would do so many sessions, especially when I was going through it, like, I am the type of. To be like, it.

[Telma]

I'm talking to her two times a week.

[Kelly]

Like, two times a week until I feel good and on my feet. I don't give a. And one time, Drew was like, bro, she's just using you for your money, bro. Like some like that. And I told her that joke and she still mentions it every now and.

[Telma]

Then, like, that's my girl.

[Kelly]

She will literally just start laughing. And she's like, I'm sorry. Cause, like, at the end of the call, because she's like, mentioned it once or twice, but it'll be at the end of the call when we're like, trying to plan. And it's usually if I'm traveling and we have like. She's trying to, like, be like, would this work for you? Like, do you want to do this while you're traveling. And then she'll laugh and be like, sorry, I just. Every time there's, like, a scheduling conflict, I feel I. I remember the joke Drew made about me trying to get money out of you. Like, I just want to make it clear I'm not. And I was like, girl, I.

[Telma]

No, I don't know if this is, like, HIPAA violation or if this is even just, like, a violation of you as a person, but me and your therapist, like, she calls me right after your therapy sessions and debriefs me on everything you said. And that's why I'm such a good friend, because I know everything you said on therapy. Actually, you take therapy with your door open loud, as in the house. Like, yeah, a lot of that's my vibe, too. I'm like, literally everything I'm saying on here. If it hurt, if it hurts anyone's house or anyone's feelings in the house, maybe you should have heard it.

[Kelly]

Yeah, I'm like, what? Also, like, I don't know. I don't think I've ever been, like, I'm really as aggro as I present publicly. Like, I'm such a, like, whiny crybaby. Like, usually you are literally something.

[Telma]

Sobbing on therapy.

[Kelly]

Yeah, every time, like, I am. Like, I've always been a crybaby. Like, it's usually like. Like, even if I'm, like, upset, like, I will still cry.

[Maria Hinojosa]

I'm Maria Hino Hosa, host of Latino usa. Venezuelans around the world are celebrating the takedown of former President Maduro. But inside the country, there is fear and silence. And in the United States, people are concerned about Donald Trump's rogue tactics. Listen to Latino usa, the fall of Maduro and the rise of an unconstrained Trump. That's on your iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Ed Helms]

Hey, everyone, it's Ed Helms.

[Telma]

And I'm Kal Penn. And we are the hosts of Earsay, the Audible, and iHeart Audiobook Club.

[Ed Helms]

This week on the podcast, I am talking to film and TV critic, radio and podcast host and Harry Potter super fan Rhianna Dillon to discuss Audible's full cast adaptation of Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone. What moments in this audiobook capture the feeling of the magical world best for you or just stood out the most?

[Rhianna Dillon]

I always loved reading about the Quidditch matches, and I think the audio really gets it because it just plunges you right into the stands. You have the crowd. Sounds like all around you is surround sound sound, especially if you're listening in headphones.

[Ed Helms]

Listen to Earsay, the Audible and iHeart Audio Book Club on the iHeartradio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dr. Joy Hardin Bradford]

The moments that shape us often begin with a simple question. What do I want my life to look like now? I'm Dr. Joy Hardin Bradford, and on Therapy for Black Girls we create space for honest conversations about identity, relationships, mental health and the choices that help us grow. As cybersecurity expert Camille Stewart Gloucester reminds.

[Camille Stewart Gloucester]

Us, we are in a divisive time where our comments are weaponized against us. And so what we find is a lot of Black women are standing up and speaking out because they feel the brunt of the pain.

[Dr. Joy Hardin Bradford]

Each week we explore the tools and insights that help you move with personality purpose, whether you're navigating something new or returning to yourself. If you're ready for thoughtful guidance and grounded support, this is the place for you. Listen to Therapy for Black Girls on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Kelly]

Hey, I'm Kelly and some of you.

[Dr. Joy Hardin Bradford]

May know me as Laura Winslow.

[Kelly]

And I'm Telma, also known as Aunt Rachel. If those names ring a bell, then you probably are familiar with with a show that we were both on back in the 90s called Family Matters. Kelly and I have done a lot of things and played a lot of roles over the years, but both of us are just so proud to have been part of Family Matters. Did you know that we are one of the longest running sitcoms with a black cast? When we were making the show, there were so many moments filled with joy and laughter and cut up that I will never forget.

[Maria Hinojosa]

Oh girl, you got that right.

[Kelly]

The look that you all give me is so black. All black people know about the look. On each episode of welcome to the Family, we'll share personal reflections about making the show.

[Dani Shapiro]

Yeah, we'll even bring in part of.

[Maria Hinojosa]

The cast and some other special guests.

[Kelly]

To join in the fun and spill some tea.

[Dani Shapiro]

Listen to welcome to the Family with.

[Kelly]

Telma and Kelly on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Oh my God, that was so embarrassing. Being like the person who cries that easily growing up is literally like, wow. Oh my God. I know what JoJo Sewall has to walk through every day. Like, because she's just wearing her heart on her sleeve and living her experience. I can't imagine what that is going through, bro. Like, she's been on like peewee's playhouse mode to 21. The whole went to Disney at 21 and got tipsy and was acting fat.

[Telma]

I mean that was us. But we were 16 at Universal and.

[Kelly]

We were actually being disgusting monsters sisters because our parents weren't around. That's what I'll say to her. Like shout out her parents. I know. I'm sure every like child star has like things with their parents because like to put your child in a position where they're the financial bearer of the family is like. But you know, not to that degree. But that's a lot of people's experience. So I will say kudos to them because I can't imagine having to even navigate having a kid in relationship.

[Telma]

Oh hell no.

[Kelly]

Like, like I don't think I want a kid cuz I'd be a helicopter mom. My kid would not with me. My kid would hate to see me around.

[Telma]

Like you raise a. If you have a strict house the baby is going to relapse. I don't know. I literally can't speak right now. Something is going on with me. Something is seriously off.

[Kelly]

Do you need water, babes?

[Telma]

I do feel like a little like weird right now for some reason. I don't know if you can tell. No, no, no. Just, just I do want to get the flu shot.

[Kelly]

I'm getting like we should go get that.

[Telma]

That the new flu.

[Kelly]

I'm getting it tomorrow. I don't know.

[Telma]

I would literally love to go with.

[Kelly]

You because like I'll be up, I'll be up early.

[Telma]

That the new flu, the fear mongering around it has gotten me and I'm scared of it.

[Kelly]

It's not even the fear. I'm like, you know what? Yeah. Actually one thing Covet taught me. I don't give a. If you're anti vaccine. Keep that to yourself. Like I don't give a. I like know the government is evil. Ooky spooky. But you know what? Science is science and it's if I chip in me a tiny bit sick and then I won't be as sick as you. Nasty. Like dude, people on the plane today.

[Telma]

Were like it's so. No, that's my, that was my plane experience too. And it is so like I want to know the psychology of like a person hearing someone cough and then having to cough themselves. Like not like if one person cough coughs, 33 people start coughing.

[Kelly]

Well it's, it's 33 people were holding in that cough and now they can let a cannon. It's like if you hear a fart In a stall. You're not going to be scared to.

[Telma]

That's why they should play fart sounds over the speakers in the stall.

[Kelly]

Wait, this is Larson Midnight sun in the mall playing.

[Telma]

You have to. You have to. When she's saying. But you have to hit the. Because if it goes on the low part, you'll hear the fart sounds. I don't know what the I'm saying, but listen, they should play fart sounds on the speakers in public bathrooms. So it covers up your sounds. Yes. Well, I don't care if anybody hears my piss.

[Kelly]

Ew.

[Telma]

I'm still scared to fart in public bathrooms.

[Kelly]

I don't give a. We've talked about this. I couldn't give a. Dude, I was blowing up the bathroom before I got on the plane.

[Dani Shapiro]

And you know what?

[Kelly]

That's the courteous thing to do. I'm leaving it on land. I'm not taking it up in the air with us. Yeah, on the plane is like, like you do that if it's. Worst case scenario.

[Telma]

It is crazy plane. There's someone out there that gets off on sitting on that plane toilet. Like I just know it. It's not me. I. It's literally not me. I don't get off.

[Kelly]

I. I was going to say. Cuz I've never heard of that.

[Telma]

So like, I'm just saying. I'm just saying right now, it's not me. I don't get off on sitting on the airplane toilet and clicking the flush button and hearing the air suck down on my prolapsed butthole. I do not get off on that. What if you found out I had a prolapse butthole? Ew.

[Kelly]

Isn't that like bad for you? Like that just sounds like a sticky situation. Like it literally sounds like a needle out of plastic and then you add shit to it. That's disgusting.

[Telma]

Like, imagine having a prolapse butt and like feeling like your underwear rub up on your internals.

[Kelly]

Well, I have a pussy, so like.

[Telma]

Well, no, like it, like a prolapse is when it like, like spills out like the pink.

[Kelly]

I know, but like, do vaginas do that? Vagina holders have felt a, a front wedgie before. And it's essentially that. It's like, you know you're experiencing a front wedgie because there's like a moisture skin cotton contact that's like not. It's literally like when you accidentally rub a cotton pad on your eyeball. It's like, like it's not like it feels like that, but like it's like that. Like. Like, yeah, it's like eating, like, it's cinnamon challenge for the.

[Telma]

Should we do the cinnamon challenge?

[Kelly]

Dude, I hate, like.

[Telma]

Well, I wish I could.

[Kelly]

That they took that from us. That was. That was.

[Telma]

That is Kylie lip ginner challenge.

[Kelly]

Yeah, just like the simple, you know.

[Telma]

Simple dimple, poppet, squish. I wish I could Skip ahead to 30 just to see if I should try right now. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, like, or if I should just give up.

[Kelly]

What would giving up look like for you?

[Telma]

Doing what I'm doing now? This is. This is as low as I'll go. This is, like. This is what you're seeing right now is me giving up. But wait till I activate.

[Maria Hinojosa]

Wait till I glow up.

[Kelly]

Just come to Miami with me because I'm not kidding. Like.

[Telma]

Like, should we buy a house in Miami?

[Kelly]

Yeah. Oh, my God. Things are. I don't. I mean, I've always said this. I just. Who the can get a house, bro?

[Telma]

Like, who the.

[Kelly]

I don't know anybody who, like.

[Telma]

I know a couple money. I know a couple people that have. And the hurdles in hoops that they had to jump through and the amount of not times they've had to take in just take a knee and just, like, take it to the chest is insane. And I'm like, yeah.

[Kelly]

I mean, it really does, like, come at a cost.

[Telma]

It comes at a cost, which is.

[Kelly]

Why I'm like, it.

[Telma]

Why should it cost?

[Kelly]

And what if the talk isn't cheap? Damn, dude. I mean, I think being in Miami was really nice because again, that, to me, is one of the, like, the places being most. So many places are being negatively affected by, like, the administration and everything going on politically. But Miami is such a melting pot of, like, everyone I grew up around, all the ideas and fears that were, like, embedded in my family, in my, like, community, all of these things that were, like, things. I don't know. Like, if you grow up in that environment, you understand the pressure your family is under and you understand the pressure your community is under and what they're up against, which is just like a system that quite literally couldn't ever and will never give a about them. But there was something really nice about going back to Miami and, like, being back in that and just kind of this, like. Like, it's like, of course there's, like, a larger fear, and it's up and it's debilitating. But we are talking about groups of people who have always and will always rise above the challenge, and it's Just, I mean, the most up part about it is, like, the fact that, like, it really does start to beg the question, like, when can my parents and my family rest? Because they've all been working since they were, like, 8 years old, and that is devastating. But then on the flip side, like, I don't know, me and my dad were talking about it, and I was like. We were just like, dude, growing up, like, the way, like, I was raised in the, like, way he was raised, although with its hurdles, is, like, so rewarding if you're able to get through it, which is also crazy to think about because, like, that is just, like, patchwork for trauma. Like, it's just like, it was worth it in the end because.

[Telma]

Look at us now.

[Kelly]

Like, whatever. But there is something really beautiful about that. I don't know. It was, like, so nice being back in Miami. Like, I. I.

[Telma]

There's, like, a level of, like, perseverance. I feel like there's, like, a level of, like, okay, you. I'm still gonna exist and live, like, now. What?

[Kelly]

Yeah.

[Telma]

I don't know.

[Kelly]

And I think growing up, I had a lot of that. And that's where, like, my bold confidence came from, is just, like, living in a pressure pot with the idea that there's no way of, like, getting out. And then getting out was like, hey. But then I was like, oh, my God. Not that many people escape still. Like, it's just like, as you get older, it's like. Like, it literally feels like the skeleton banging its chest from. What is it, like, Skyrim or some.

[Maria Hinojosa]

It.

[Telma]

Oh, I don't know that one. I think it sounds like you're referencing Eminem. Go crazy. Ah, Go stupid. Ah, Go crazy. Go stupid. Go crazy. Go stupid.

[Kelly]

Dude. Wow. I feel like he went to Turkey, I think.

[Telma]

Is he bald?

[Dani Shapiro]

No.

[Kelly]

He, like. Has he, like, dyes his hair? For sure. Like, he dyes his hair darker.

[Telma]

That's so gay. Oh, my God. Being 68 years old and dyeing your hair that color is. Is crazy. What was it the other day that I said, like, if you do that, you're gay. Oh, it was so good. I think we were on the phone, or it was over text, but whatever. Y' all missed it, guys. But I said, I did such a big funny, and it was awesome. Oh. On. On the topic of heated rivalries, someone I know hung out with Connor today and relayed back to me that I'm not very close to this person, but she relayed back to me that Connor reminds her a lot of me in his real Life. So.

[Kelly]

Oh, my gosh. Truth. Hi.

[Telma]

It was vibe looks like. And funniness is what we can relate it on me.

[Kelly]

What about me? He was like, sharing the silver screen. Budding star.

[Telma]

What's his name? You are like Hollander. Actually, what's crazy is I am so Hollander coded that, like, unironically, if I, like, go and hook up with someone, like a random hookup up that I don't know, I literally sit there and take my clothes off and fold my clothes into a little neat pile. And if I'm wearing a baseball hat, the hat goes on top. And when I saw that representation on the screen, I felt seen.

[Kelly]

Well, when I saw Ilya get on the bed with his socks on, was it Ilya or Hollander? Maybe it was Hollander who was got on the bed. He took all his clothes off and then was in the bed. One of them, during a sex scene had their socks on.

[Telma]

On. I unironically, almost every single time I do s haves my socks on almost every time.

[Kelly]

Why?

[Telma]

Because my feet get cold.

[Kelly]

That's what the touch of another body is for, babes.

[Telma]

Yeah, true.

[Kelly]

You're scared of your feet.

[Telma]

I do have monstrous feet, but I'm not scared. Whoa, my ear is ringing. My ear is ringing. What if that means, like, I you have good feet? No, I think it means I'm scared of touch. I don't know. I'm. I'm out of it right now, guys. I'm not on my A game. I'm sorry. I feel like I'm living behind my eyes right now. But I'm happy, and I'm happy of for everything I have. You know what it feels like? I feel like I took an Adderall. Oh, very strange.

[Kelly]

Well, maybe it's because you've been up since, like, so early.

[Telma]

Yeah, true.

[Kelly]

Because that hasn't been your usual. Like, you used to be on that type of time, and usually you. You've been now as of late. It's like you used to not cry, and now you're crying so much.

[Telma]

It's so crazy how I used to not cry and I'm still crying. It's kind of like sleep. Like, I used to be on the schedule where I would only sleep four.

[Kelly]

Hours a night and you would wake.

[Telma]

Up early, early, and then go to bed late still. And now I'm on this schedule where I'm like kind of going to bed late and waking up late. But before that I was on the schedule where I'd go to bed at like 6am Wake up at 10am or.

[Kelly]

Whatever and it didn't matter.

[Telma]

Only 24 hours now.

[Kelly]

But now you're sleeping more.

[Telma]

And now I need like 12 hours.

[Kelly]

Yeah. Which is weird because, like, you used to be able to go so long without crying.

[Telma]

Four hours. Four hours of sleep, no crying. Maybe that's the correlation. Maybe I didn't have time for emotions. Baby, I.

[Dr. Joy Hardin Bradford]

Wait.

[Telma]

Baby, I don't have time for emotions. Clip that, guys. Make that go viral. Wait, can we make this a meme? Wait, clip that. Clip that, Clip that, guys. Do Twitter, do your thing, dude.

[Kelly]

Wow.

[Telma]

Twitter, do your thing. And who said brunettes can't wear jeans?

[Kelly]

And who said brunettes can't drink a mocha frappe? Dude, I. Look at this.

[Telma]

Herpes, girl. I like, I. I have genital herpes. I don't know why. I'm just like, manifesting like herpes in pregnancy for you soon and. Yeah.

[Kelly]

Oh, my God, thank you. I mean, I'll be able to handle that because I don't think it should be like, pregnancy scares me more than the herpes.

[Telma]

Yeah. Honestly, I'm with you.

[Kelly]

Like, whoa.

[Telma]

Okay. My media. You want to hear it?

[Kelly]

I stigmatize pregnancy before I stigmatize herpes Unironic.

[Telma]

I'll serve crap. Crack. I'll serve crack.

[Kelly]

Smoke crack before I get pregnant.

[Telma]

I'll serve crap before I serve this country. That's good. That's good. Love by Slime Pain if my son was gay. Wait, let me show you. The song is about a guy telling his dad the first time he had sex. And his dad was like, oh, thank God. Like, I thought you were gay. And that would have been horrible. And he was like, I don't like that. Like, I would love my son even if he was gay. I would love my son if he was trans, but I would not love my son if. If he's not getting no bands. And that really was special to me.

[Kelly]

I mean, yeah, I could see that. Do you relate?

[Telma]

Oh, yeah. Time to dance. The Shoes in September song. Agnes Obel.

[Kelly]

Agnes Obel.

[Telma]

This song makes me cry. I gotta turn it off. And then shows, movie, television. Haven't watched anything. I really want to see. Oh, there's like a new like, parasite movie or same vibe as parasite that's out. Like that has to do deal or it deals with like. Like financial crisis. I don't want to.

[Kelly]

Is it no other choice?

[Telma]

Yes. Did you see it?

[Kelly]

No, I just saw that it was the only movie that came out on Christmas day. My media of the week is there must be an angel by arithmetics.

[Telma]

There must be a Drew. That's interesting.

[Kelly]

You're so annoying and I hate that. That was funny. Like, that's so interesting. Actually, I thought about that. I've been thinking about that and then still just listening. Oh, Touch Me in the Morning by Class Generation and who do you think you are and Come back to me. I mean, this whole album, it's all about love by Class Generation. I said it last week. I'm still just listening to that. I've just been listening to that album.

[Telma]

Any television show other than Heated Slavery was watching.

[Kelly]

I have to finish Heated Rivalry. Been watching Righteous Gemstones.

[Telma]

I got Rock three.

[Kelly]

No, I didn't. Is it a movie or a show? Cuz there's a show show. It's a show or movie? I think there's a new show.

[Telma]

Oh, really?

[Kelly]

I think so. I was watching a lot of Muppets interviews and they made a new. They were talking about a new baby character they made that's a part of the Fraggle Rock.

[Telma]

I think it.

[Kelly]

Oh my God. It's so cool. Oh my God. On Adam Savage's account. Yeah, I. I was just watching a lot of like YouTube stuff. I'm really trying to think if I watched anything else. Oh, I watched Meet the again last night and like, such a good movie. I literally want to have a threesome with what's his nuts parents in that movie.

[Telma]

Drew Phillips.

[Kelly]

Bye.

[Dani Shapiro]

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[Telma]

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