A (3:58)

Well, and you talk about the Tecumseh and good times mating. So in lot one, you're offering embryos out of either or bull. So purebred or half blood option. So talk to me about maybe a little bit of what those calves looked like out of Tecumseh. Obviously we don't know about good times quite yet, but maybe a projection of what you could think they would look like.

B (4:16)

All them Tecumseh calves, they've all been stout, they've all been good haired because everybody knows when you get in the semi game you could have some messed up haired ones and they're just lays kind of flatter. But they've all been stout, they've all been good looking, good bodied, good structured hair has been very, very good for those Scimitol cattle. And think they're going to be good looking think I think their structure is never going to be an issue on them things. And I do have to say on this cow and most of the cows that we are offering embryos out of the embryos are very sticky. I mean I was actually just adding up before we got on the ph think we're sitting about 70 to 75% percent conception rate on them embryos. So it, it's not like we're just sending them out just so we can get them out of the tanks. We're. We're trying to offer stuff that, that will go out and work for people as they've worked for us.

A (5:03)

Well then you switch it up a little bit in lock two and you got a female that is an unstoppable i80 that you call red. She's a half blood mane on jeu. The sire of the embryos are good as it gets. There are conventional. These calves will register as 3, 8 maintainer. So talk to me about the female, where you got her and some bu that you've used her on, maybe some calves that have that you've had out of her. If not maybe what you project them to look like and just go over the history of the female.

B (5:30)

I actually bought this cow during COVID I had a buddy that came to me and he was kind of getting out of the cow thing and I actually bought red as a first calf heifer pair, same deal. I only have one daughter out of her. They sell so well. And I have that one daughter out of her that came outside when I bought her. She was a color me up as a first calf heifer. I bred her to In God We Trust and she had a steer calf that I sold off the cow. I think. I mean that calf was hardly 45 days old and he went to a trader for good money and he ended up going down south and he was reserve grand at the Mississippi State Fair and reserve grant at the Mississippi Youth Expo. And he was very competitive in his class there at the Dixie national in February. But same deal with this cow. I mean, cabs look good early and they sell very well. I mean, she's averaging $7,500 on cabs. That's legit. Off the cow in the spring. I mean, I think I've sold one of them in the fall. And that was because it was an April born calf. And I really didn't want to be selling an April born calf off the cow that early on. Again, these eggs are sticky. Sticky. The cow I actually just made, I just IVF flushed her and those eggs are going to be coming up here in the next lot. But I flushed her twice in November and she froze 48 embryos. And I think out of the 48, she only froze three grade twos. So like, they're all grade one embryos. They're all good. And again, I stand behind them 100%. But they're going to stick and they're going to sell well for you. These good as it gets cabs, they've been standouts every year. In the past year, good colored, I think we, we've all, out of the four or five we've had the last couple of years, I think we've had one black Baldy. We had a black Baldi last year, a red Baldi and a red Baldi steer. That was. He was the youngest one of the group and he might have been the best one to date, but we lost him there to pneumonia in early summer when it got real hot. And I don't know where that calf would end up, but I was pretty high on that one. And then this year we actually have a solid red heifer on the ground as well. And I take back my comment from earlier. I think she might be the best one she's ever had. The calves are stout, they're good looking, they're good bodied, hair's incredible. And I'm excited to see that one grow up, that is for sure.

A (7:42)

Well, then you got another set of embryos out of her that are on Pure Reflection ivf. And obviously these calves will register as quarter maintainer, quarter shorthorn. Plus obviously it's a new mating for y'. All. But you say in the comments that you're offering these due to just how impressive the Pure Reflection calves were from last year. So talk to me about why you decided to go that route on her, what you think those calves will look like or have looked like. And obviously Pure Reflection has been knocking it out of the park. I got the opportunity to promote that bull quite a bit last year from Mr. Aaron Hartman. And those calves keep looking better and better.

B (8:15)

Yes, I actually had two of those. I had two of those pure reflection cabs last year and I sold the one steer real well. The first time I ever posted a picture of him, he kind of blew up my phone because everybody wanted to know what he was, where he was going and how they can get his hands on him. And the other one was actually out of a. It was a pure reflection heifer, actually out of a perfection daughter. So we kind of line that up and she's in the replacement pen now. And I don't know what I'm going to breed her to. I don't know how I'm going to take her. But as far as making shorthorn colored cattle, I think that one's going to work pretty well. But I think just combined with that bull's look, his stoutness of feature, I think that's going to complement this cow real well. And in the footnotes I said that I last year that this red cow, she calved naturally to diamond, that solid white perfection, real NISA bull there at Fars. And they lost him way too early. And this was one of the first calves born out of him. And it, that might be one of the better heifers we've had here to date. And I just thought with him being a perfection son, we need to take her back to another perfection son to make some shorthorn colored cattle that whether again you get a bull or a heifer, I think they're going to work because that was, that was another thing. I had a buddy call me, he goes, why didn't you sex those? I said, because the bulls and heifers out of this cow have been equally as impressive. And um, I just think that either whichever sex you get, I think you're going to be way okay on them.

A (9:38)

Plot fours next. And these are going to be some different embryos, some purebred simmentals out of a female that you call C49. These are going to be optional Tecumseh or Good Times. So talk to me about the female first and what she's done for y'. All. Obviously a real long proportion female that's real maternal bodied, has an awesome hip and hind leg. Talking about, you know, some of the progeny that she's thrown for you and what you think the calves will look like either out of Tecumseh or Good times.

B (10:04)

So this C49 cow, she's actually a mate sister to the Raz donor that's we're selling the flush on and the embryos earlier actually this was, this is the cow that actually gave me the idea to flush Raz to Good Times. Because the first Good Times calf we had out of C49 was a heifer calf. She ends up going to Hartman's there in Nebraska. She brings 27,000 in their annual heifer sale. And that was actually a natural calf out of her as well. And then after that we decided to actually lay into this one pretty hard too and we flushed her to Good Times. And we've had two or three of those since then. I'd say those have probably averaged that. Those have sold well and they've averaged 6 to 7,000 as well. Stout burley for that sim Angus breed. Long neck, good looking. And actually on this, I actually have My first Tecumseh C49 due next week as well. I haven't had any of those but if they look anything like the Tecumseh Raz, I think we're going to be in business with those as well.

A (11:05)

Well then Lot 5 is next. These are going to be out of a female you call hottie. The side of the embryos are obviously going to be that alpha bull. These are going to be half blood semis. Talking about the female, she's obviously like in my mind just screams brood cow. But these will be three quarter simmentals or cavs will register as three quarters.

B (11:25)

Yes, the cabs will register three quarter semi.

A (11:27)

Awesome. Talk to me about, you know, what she's done for y', all, where you got her. Obviously if you've had these calves hit the ground before, what they've looked like and what they've done for you too.

B (11:37)

So if I'm being real honest with you, we've laid into these semis pretty hard and it's honestly one cow family. This hottie cow is actually a maternal sister to C49 and Raz. I actually purchased her from Gar simpson as a 15 year old and people probably would have called me crazy for buying her at that, that old of an age. But we bought her from him. He called me one day and said, hey, I think I'm going to offer this cow. If you don't buy her, I'm going to put her on Facebook. I don't know if I'm going to get her sold because she is so old. But like he knew I knew the cow family, he knew I had sisters, he knew that we could make her work. I bought her as a 15 year old, we flushed her for a year and she honestly froze embryos till the day that she died. She actually, these alpha embryos, the week before she died, she froze these embryos. She made eight oocytes and she froze seven of them. So. And that was as a 16 year old. And again, I mean, they're older genetics, older cow, but I mean, I think for a cow to be able to still be producing and making embryos at the age of 16, you got to keep the longevity in them. And she, she actually has. I've had a relentless bull this year. I've got an alpha bull on the ground and I've got a gronk heifer on the ground out of her now. And I actually have a Tecumseh heifer that might look like the best hottie calf I've had to date. I've sent some pictures and videos to some buddies and everybody always wants to know, what's that one? What are you dealing with? Or this, that and the other. And I honestly, I really don't know what I'm going to do with her yet, because these. I haven't sold many hottie daughters. They work as cows. You can take them any way you want. And honestly, I've taken the daughters. Club Calf and Simi. Both have been very, very, very good and well received. There's daughters working here, there's daughters working at Full Circle Farms there in Pennsylvania. Wilcox has one, was a broker. She was fourth overall, a beef congress that year. And they call her Iggy. They've had a lot of, lot of success with that cow. And if I'm being real honest with you, this cow's gone. I don't have many eggs left in the tank out of her. This. This very well could be the last time I offer eggs out of this cow, because I do think that her daughters are that valuable and that they do, they do work in production.

A (13:48)

Well, then Lot 6 is next and you kind of change it up a little bit with some purebred Angus embryos. Obviously, off of three, these are going to be styles out of a cowgirl called Bridget. So talk to me about where you acquired the female, what she's done for y' all thus far, and maybe what the calves have looked like out of her as well.

B (14:05)

I'm just going to start off with this and I'm just going to be honest with you. I'm not much of an Angus enthusiast and I don't know if I ever will be. But me and my father, we went to a dispersal sale in the fall of. I believe it was 24, and he, he was wanting to up his cow numbers because we're running some cows together. And he goes, I think this cow's pretty nice. And I said, I don't know if you're going to be able to afford it or not. And we actually got her bought. She was a shortbred cow and I said if you, you can have all the natural calves out of her, I want to flush this thing, I want to try a couple of things on her. And we got her home there in October. We flushed her a couple times and I got. And I think as a, as a bred cow, heck, I think she froze 15 or 16 embryos as a 90 day break cow. And she was 10 at the time. So again, the longevity game is working here. She originates from the Seldom Rest crew there in Michigan. She's in the same cow family there is that Bardot 1090 cow that has made them on the north side of $1 million easily. And I mean if you go through any of their false or their production sale catalogs, you're going to see that Bardot cow family a lot in there. And those things go on, they work. I flushed a style, I think I've always liked them style cattle. I actually have. I had my first, it was probably About a month, 45 days ago now that I had a heifer on the ground. And I think that one's going to be fun to watch. Mature just for, I mean, length of neck, good haired for an Angus stout. And she gets better every day and I'm pretty excited for that one even not being a very big Angus fan, if I'm being real honest with you.

A (15:42)

Well, lot sevens next. These are going to be five embryos which would be half blood short or quarter shorthorn calves. But their sire of the embryos would be loud and heavy which would be conventional. The cow's name's Misty. She's obviously a starburst. So talk to me about where you acquired her, what she's done for you and maybe what some of her calves have looked like as well.

B (16:04)

So I would have bought this cow from Fars in 2019. She's kind of really the one that started the club calf thing for us around here. She, when I bought her as a bread, she was due in June and she laid down and had a near perfect ste or bull calf. We ended up cutting him and we sent him south to a trader. He did some winning down south. Very well received calf. And as soon as she calved there in the summer, we held her over and kind of flushed on her a little bit. There in the winter. We did her to perfection then. Perfection calves were real good. AJ Line would have bought the first perfection steer out of her. That calf went on to go do some winning. And that year that I flushed her to perfection, I actually aied her. They have a natural calf to perfection too. And she laid down, had a blue round bull calf. And this the perfection out of Misty just happens to be the mom of the pure reflection calf that I put back in the replacement pen. So I'm kind of, I'm kind of relying on all these donors that I've got in this sale to keep those daughters around and everything. And I mean I've got daughters far's got donors that are still working for them. Gar Simpson down there in Texas, he's got in God We Trust out of Misty. That's actually triple clean. That's been working real, real well for him. I did have a loud and heavy out of her a couple of years ago. That thing was stout, stout. And I ended up sending him south to, to a trader down there. That was very well received as well. Some people have asked me why I'm offering five embryos on this cow and not just three. I was going through tanks before this sale and I saw that there was five and a cane. And instead of just splitting them up and possibly dropping one on the ground because I'm kind of clumsy, I just thought I'd offer all five. I thought I'd just offer all five of them instead of was on the ground from dropping them because I've been known to do that from time to time. So I'm just kind of let, trying to let some guys in here and same deal. This cow's getting up there in age. I'm trying to retain as many daughters as I can and this might, this, this very well could be the last time I offer eggs out of her as well because I think she's getting up there. I think she's 14 or 15 years now. 14 or 15 year old. 15 years old now. And I don't know how much longer she's going to be around because I had a solid gold cow out of her a couple years ago. We would have called her diamond 7 11. Another blue roan cow. She was a 7 or 8 year old. Freak accident happened. We were flushing her, she got an infection and we lost her way too early. And if I'm being real honest with you, she looked like the kind that was going to replace mom. I thought that cow was going to kind of take us to the next Step of where we wanted to be. But obviously things doesn't always pan out how they need to be. But I, I that that was a heartbreaker when we lost that one. But as far as this cow, she's getting up there in age. I get in while you can.

A (18:52)

Well, in lot eight next you got some club calf stuff right here. Obviously these are going to be embryos out of a donor you call Stella. So you got an option to get embryos out of BDR or starburst. So if they're starburst they'll be half blood shorthorn. If they're BDR then they'll obviously be some key females. But talk to me about the female because I absolutely love her design. I love her length of neck, length of spine, length of hip and s. And honestly I can't see a video of her but I can tell that she utilizes her hip and hind leg extremely well. That's a dense made female. That's extremely cool from the profile. So talk to me about maybe what some calves look like out of her. I'm sure that before this you've gone clubby as well and had some clubby calves as well as possibly some starburst progeny as well. Or maybe some different matings.

B (19:37)

Yes. To go back on what you just said, structure is not an issue on this one. She can get out and move. She can get out and move without a problem. Actually a little fun fact on history here. This was actually the first female male born here in 2014 when we just started in the cow business. Her mom was the first heifer that my sister had actually bought and she was actually a twin. We lost the twin early and we've been kind of laying in on this thing. So there's a little bit of sentimental value here. But I would definitely say that this is probably the southern boys lot of the sale. Just for how she's bred troubadour Sheriff Taylor heat wave. And actually on the backside of that heat wave I think it goes habanero cunha. So it kind of goes way, way back. We've had, we had a BDR half for a coup couple years ago when she just cab for the first time about a month or two ago. And we're probably going to be relying on that thing to be making some southern slick stews just for how she's designed, how she's designed her muscle pattern looks and all that and everything. We did have a starburst heifer a couple years ago. And another thing, one of them freak accidents happened. I Got no idea what happened. I don't know if she got sick or hurt or what happened. She's probably five or six months old when we lost her. But that was another one we were going to lay back in the herd and kind of rely on for that southern game. She was colored, right? She had the right muscle pattern, she had the right design. But we thought that one was going to work pretty well. But as you know, the cow business, it's not for the fate of heart.

A (21:01)

Well then next you're going to start offering some semen lots and obviously nine through 12 are going to be out of a bull that we touched on at the start of the sale. This is alter ego. He's a. How great thou art out of the rascal. He's a 5, 8 semi. Obviously he's a TH carrier. DS carrier in his own. With Clancy grooving down there in, in Texas. So obviously he's had some success as a show bull. But honestly he can make some real nice simmental cattle. But I, I would love to use him to make some potential club cavs as well.

B (21:29)

Yes. And he was, he was just selected their champion division two percentage semi bowl there in Fort Worth. And it was kind of funny how this bull just kind of came to be. I had posted this and I had posted a Snapchat of this calf out in the lot. His head was up, he was set up right and he had just hair drooping off of him there in early May and Clancy had messaged me and he, and he got kind of stern with me. He goes, where's this thing been hiding? I said, he's been here the whole time. And he's like, what are you doing with him? I said, I honestly think he looks like the right kind to be a state fair size steer. And he goes, would you want, would you want to sell him as a bull? I said, I'm open to all ideas here. And he goes, well, I, I think we should probably partner on him. So. And he had only seen pictures and videos of him until I sent him there in Texas and I finally got him sent south. And as soon as he jumped off the trailer, Clancy was calling me and saying, I think you sent me one that I think's pretty dang nice. Ever since that thing hit the ground, he's always been stout, he's always been good haired. Structure is very, very good. Big feet, big legs, muscle pattern reads right. I'm. I'm going to be breeding him to a slew of cows here. I know Clancy's going To be breeding to a slew of cows there. And I've had some guys ask me why, why are you using him so heavy? Rookie bull. You don't know how he's going to breed this, that and the other. And I said his dad obviously works me and how great thou art. Mom has it missed. Probably my favorite cow on the farm. And it basically just comes down to a wise man once told me that if you don't believe in your own breeding program, who do you expect, who do you, who else do you expect to be believe in your breeding program with that fact?

A (23:07)

Absolutely, 100%.

B (23:09)

And we do think when we. If you are asking for breeding advice, I would say I would take into them prettier cows that need a shot of punch and a little bit more body. And I think you're going to be sitting pretty for sure.

A (23:20)

Especially with how big his feet and legs are. I mean in it. I haven't seen the bull in person, but definitely seeing stuff off Snapchat. His foot shape is, is awesome. But his foot size is even that much better.

B (23:30)

Yes. And he, he's, he's big footed, he's big boned. All his feet point in the right direction. He's not been with it all. I mean he's, he's all bull.

A (23:39)

Yes, sir.

B (23:40)

With how his mom looks, you can scroll the top to say and see what his mom looks like. You can see what his half sibs look like. And like I said earlier, I've got a full brother on the ground now that I think might be stouter than he is. He was at this age. And I have a sister that again, I don't know if she'll leave just for the mere fact of what she is. And I don't know how many more of them heifers I'm going to be getting out of that mating.

A (24:03)

Right. Right. Well, the next is 13 and 14 and these are going to be purebred semi semen lots. They're going to be out of that burn notice. So talk to me about the bull. I'm not familiar with simmental genetics all too well, but it does list that he's an eternal brother to Raz, C49 and Hottie. So talk to me about, you know, what he's done for your program if you've used him and some cows that he works to.

B (24:26)

Yes, this is another one of the, this is another bull that I owned in on again, we talked about longevity earlier. He, he lived till he was 13 and a half years old and he bred cows Till the day that he died. And honestly I think that's what there was a summer day that he went down and I honestly think that's what put him down was he was. He was breeding a cow that morning and I think he popped something out of place and he couldn't get back up. So we just made the decision because he was sold to euthanize him. But it was one of them deals. And when we came back to preg checking later that fall, that cow actually stuck to him the day that she. That he bred her. So when I say that he legit bred cows the day he died when he was 13 and a half, that is the honest to God truth. Honestly, he was just a big pasture pet. He'd walk up to you every time he was tame and like it. It was one of them things. He was the first one that I checked every day when I went out to check cows. He's worked on them big bodied Angus cows. He adds foot size, he adds mass, he, he adds bone and he adds that perfect baldy face that everybody loves. And if you got them big, big soggy made cows, I think he'd work perfect on them. And those daughters, I think I've kept every daughter out of him besides two or three of them. And the one when we were sort heifers for the replacement pen, she came up lame so we decided to ship her. And the other one that we didn't keep was. And the only reason why we didn't keep her was because she was a twin to a bull calf and she was a free marten.

A (25:49)

Awesome. You gotta love those.

B (25:51)

Yes. And it was. And daughters work incredible. I'm actually getting ready. There's one that's getting ready to calve this week and he is, he is heritozygous. So he does have the red gene. So if you guys want to make some red baldies or red cattle, he can do it.

A (26:07)

Well then lots 15 all the way through lots 40 are all going to be semen lots. Touch on some of them. I know that there's a few that you said that you wanted to point it out for. Sure. Obviously some of these bulls are very, very well known and need no introduction. But talk to me about some of them that I obviously in our phone call prior to there was definitely some that you wanted to highlight.

B (26:29)

Yes. And when I was going through tanks and trying to put this sale together, I didn't just want to put run of the seam or run of the mill semen on there that anybody could just get their hands on. I kind of wanted to offer some stuff that I kind of have an influx of that I. That I'm probably never going to use in my lifetime because I've just got. I've got eight tanks of stuff laying around and I'm. And people have pointed out you've got. We have too much semen, too many embryos and not enough cows to put them in. So that's just how that's going to go. But like lot 15, you got the bet on red here. Obviously that ball bull worked for Griswolds and they lost him way too early there. And I honestly think they made a Facebook post earlier this week that they're not selling it on the open market anymore. All you can get it is at auction. I put two and two together. I would imagine that there's not much of it left. So I would surely think that that would be something that people would dig in on. Lot 16 here. That Sam bull obviously again another Griswold bull that's worked real, real well for everybody. Copacetic. Another deceased Scimitar bull that people use pretty heavily. That semen's been selling real well. And the daughter's work, honestly I've seen some sons out of them that have been real nice too. What else we got? Obviously remedy there for Hartman's in Nebraska has worked real, real well for them. High dollar heifers, high dollar bulls, profit, quantum leap alpha. So this freaking alpha bull, he would have, he'd actually be the world selling, top selling Scimitar bull. I think he brings 700,000 for half interest there a couple years ago for Hartman's and they sold a couple high dollar heifers out of him this, this past winter in their annual sale there that were very well received. I think he works in a lot of places. Brecking classic I believe. Now don't quote me on this. I think he is a maternal brother to alpha. So that'd be some sex female semen there. Bankroll. Only one hammer. It's kind of some old scimitar, older scimitar semen there. Then we get down here to the mains end game. Obviously if you're in the cattle business, you know who endgame is absolutely that main. Them high main females have been real good maternal maid. Another bull that works there at Griswolds, they, they lost him too. And that, I mean them daughters are. I mean I don't know about you but they've been very, very good.

A (28:40)

Extremely awesome for sure. And that new bull class on Class of Hartman's.

B (28:46)

Yes.

A (28:46)

No, right. That's Hartman.

B (28:48)

No, no, this class on class four. He's there at Jason Minards.

A (28:51)

That's right. Okay, I was thinking of a different one. My bad.

B (28:54)

Yes. I think you're thinking about cleaning. Classy.

A (28:57)

Clean and classy.

B (28:58)

And I believe he is a class on class son. If I'm not mistaken, he might be.

A (29:03)

I'm not sure. This is why we got editing.

B (29:05)

Yes. And then when we get down here to the club calf deal, Dakota Gold. I don't know how much of that original Siemens left, but we've got some sitting the tank and I, I'm probably never going to use it all, so we're going to let some other people in on it. Holy smoker's been real good. The water to wine. You're down there in Texas so you probably know a little bit more about this bull than I do. And you've probably seen quite a few cabs out of him.

A (29:26)

I've seen quite a few calves. I saw him in person twice. I gotta say him and back to good are some of the most profound red bulls in the club calf deal right now. I love the water to wines. I love the back to goods. Water to wine in person was one of the most awesome things that I got to be a part of. Not only just being able to see him as a yearling, but also as a little bit more of a mature bull. And his foot and bone is incredible. His back shape is awesome. Short back, big hipped, awesome front end. I love the bull for sure.

B (30:00)

And he's th clean. I'm pretty sure too. Then we scroll down here to Lot 32 to perfection. Same deal. If you're in the cattle business, you've heard about perfection. He kind of changed the shorthorn world for males and females, honestly. People started breeding them to Angus cows. People started breeding them to Angus cows, Club calf cows. I honestly think some people even took him to some Maine cows. I, I've seen, I saw that bull multiple times there at fars about an hour south of me. And I think as he matured, I think he honestly got better each time. And we, we've relied heavy on his genetics around here for in the shorthorn game at least, or at least the shorthorn colored deal. They've been very, very good. Down to the charolais here. We've got some firewater, female semen, redemption. Another bull there at Griswolds. And I'm not completely for sure if he's still collecting or not. I had somebody Tell me that that scene was kind of hard to come by in that aspect of things. And then you come down to Boyart's bowl to Outkast. Then we've got some. Get back into the Angus. We've got some sex. Follow me. Some conventional. Follow me. Some no limit, 24 karat and McKinley.

A (31:05)

Well, great way to end the sale for sure. I mean, is there anything else that you'd like to tack on for the conclusion of the sale?

B (31:11)

I'm just going to say I appreciate you having me. I thought this was kind of a neat deal to get on and talk about and just see what we had going. Like we said earlier, the sales coming up this weekend on Sunday, March 1st. If you got any questions, don't hesitate to reach out to me. I've mostly always got my phone on me. 219-508-5132. And I'd love to talk to you about them.

A (31:35)

Well, once again grateful for the opportunity and glad we were able to represent your genetics and get you on. Can't wait to see what the future looks like. Can't wait to see how the sale ends up. Empowerment's here. It's what it's all about. Thank you all for tuning in.

B (31:48)

Thanks, Pan. I appreciate it.