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Welcome to the Empty Netters podcast.
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Can you believe what this has become?
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There was a full 48 hours where
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I felt like I was like literally Superman.
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Jumbo loves playing Fortnite. So does he gets on the sticks. Did TR show you the saunacycle or was that already. No, I invented that.
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Almost a year now that I haven't
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taken a body check. That's kind of nice.
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So we are back. We are horned up and we are going deep.
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Finished tonight with some chicken fingers and a few Guinnesses.
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Ran into you guys. And that's where this pod came to life.
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Ice is is ready. And we are back with another episode of the Empty Netters podcast, brought to you by BetMGM. I am your host, Dan Powers, and all the horny gals are going to be thrilled because back on the sticks, returning to the gang, Sean Buffini.
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Thank you.
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It's great to be back.
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God, it's good to have you back. And you look hot as hell with that haircut.
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Thank you.
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I can't believe it.
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Oh, yeah. This is the haircut reveal.
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Yes. I'm telling you, people's panties are flooding right now.
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That's why I was gone for so long is I had so much hair to cut.
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It took that long.
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Did you did it?
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Yeah, he plucked them. Plucked him one at a time.
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Oh, and speaking of good hair, let's move it to bad hair. The only person worse at maintaining his great head of hair is this guy over here.
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No, he's not bad at it.
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Well, he was bad at it.
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Okay. As always. I was trying to think who you were about to sue her when you were like, the only person worse.
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And I was like, it's probably Gavin
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Loxy.
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Loxy just lets it get. But he just got his hair too.
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He did.
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Everyone's having great hair right now, including you. Your hair looks better than ever.
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Wow.
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It does. But because you've been doing it up lately, like, you've been, like, actually putting effort into it, not just stuffing it in a hat like you're doing right now.
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I've been using the hair dryer.
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You're an engaged man now, and there's no more excuses. You're no longer just an idiot.
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I went to sleep. I did a late night shower the other day because I, you know, because I exercise.
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Do you do that? Are you a late night shower guy?
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I enjoy a late night shower.
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It's so nice. I don't normally do it, but every now and then I'm a bit, you know, if there's been a Day walking around, you're getting the underpants sweats going on. I'm like, shower before bed. You know, you shouldn't get in bed when you're like, that is the clean place. Yes, it should be clean. As clean as possible. So showering pre bed is just such a lovely mood. When you're nice and clean post shower and you slide into bed, it feels like your body's made of silk.
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I feel as though because I play so many recreational sports.
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Yes.
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I feel like I shower at night almost every day. Cause I have hockey at 11pm and then I take a shower and then go to bed.
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Yeah, I mean, you don't play hockey that often. You play it at most twice a week.
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Three. Cause I have roller. I have three nights a week. Late, late showers. Anyway. I took a really late shower and then you probably experienced this a little bit even though your hair was so curly. Anyway, if you take a really late shower with long hair and your hair's curls. Oh, I know. Yeah. And then you just go to bed. If you wake up in the morning, you're like, what the fuck? This is the back of my head yesterday morning, dude.
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Like, that looks. That looks like the last of us.
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Show the camera.
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This legitimately looks like the mushroom spores in the last of us. And sometimes when I see that, like we're on the road, we'll be in a Airbnb or a hotel. And then I see you and your hair looks like that and I go legitimately, tell me, when was the last year that you washed your hair?
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Right, exactly.
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The mushroom spores.
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It looks like something is growing.
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It's incredible.
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It's crazy. That's awesome.
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God. Late shower.
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You're absolutely.
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But honestly, that's often why I have to wear a hat here because I. Late shower, wet hair, go to bed, wake up, and it's like. And I'm like, I don't have time to shower now and.
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Yeah, but you can just do the, like, get a spray bottle. Like, I didn't shower this morning. I usually do a workout in the morning, but I'm trying to rest on Wednesdays a little bit and then work out later in the day. So I woke up and I just dipped my head in the shower, wet it up, and then, you know, I
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never even thought of it using a spray bottle. My go to is usually just a wet towel.
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That's wet towel.
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Yeah.
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Sometimes I feel like if the towels like not that clean. Oh, no, no.
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It's supposed to be a fresh, fresh towel. I'm sorry. I clean My towels regularly.
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That's insane.
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Listen that. Me too. But there you go. There's a lot of people.
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That's insane.
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Working on a two week old towel
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that you admit you're bad. I don't.
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I. I would never.
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You have.
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If someone in my life hadn't taken a towel and put it in the bin, I would be using the same towel. The first towel I ever showered with, I would still be using.
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Yeah. He is the Nick Miller from New girl mentality of why would I wash a towel? The towel washes me. Doesn't it smell do towels are disgusting. Yeah, towels are. Yes. You get out of the shower and I know people go, I just cleaned myself. Why would. Dude. Water is the most interesting thing in the world because it is both probably the primary tool life cleaning. But it also creates the most disgusting things in the world. You add water to stuff and leave it. Bad things happen. And you've got that towel that's just covered in your dead skin. Leftover dirt and sweat and grime. And then water you the humidity after
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you get out of a shower as well.
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I'm sure probably breeds mold.
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100%. You got to be washing your towels at least once a week.
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I've never seen enough paste get pulled that quickly outside of a cartoon.
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That's true. If you're using one towel, Chris, after seven days you gotta wash it.
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That is insane. Dude.
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No, you're being gross.
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I don't have time for that. I do not have time. I could barely do my laundry. Dude.
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I know. But you gotta get better about washing stuff.
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What if you were to have seven towels, One fresh towel every day. We just do one wash at the end of the week where you do all your towels together or get 14 towels do every two weeks. Whatever your desired. 365 towels do one wash a year.
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Now we're talking.
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That is the level of wealth Chris. Yeah. Strives for. To just never have to buy a new towel or never have to wash. What if I.
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What if I. The level of wealth I aspire for is that I use the towel once and then donate it to Goodwill.
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You know what my favorite thing?
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They'll like frame it in a box.
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I just use my favorite part about Chris Johnson.
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He'll be in a hotel with ample towels and the ability to every day go, could you bring me a fresh towel every day he will use the same towel.
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Yeah, but there's a sign up. There's a sign up now that says go green.
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Yeah, sure.
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Go green. Keep the towel.
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But what I think is funny is there will be. You'll get in a hotel room by yourself where they will have at least two towels and you will use the same. Yeah.
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Leave the other one folded right under there for emergencies.
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This is. I will say I love it when I go to a hotel room and every day it's like stocked with all new towels.
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Yeah, it's great.
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Like magically appeals years there. I'm sure there's workers involved somewhere, but
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to my knowledge, it's like Hogwarts, like, they just materialize. Yeah.
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They clean themselves and go back on the shelves.
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I love the idea that you're. You're just not entirely sure where the towels come from. You're like, I believe that there are maids here, but I don't know.
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I don't know for certain.
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All right, well, you're a disgusting pig. Per usual, we've got a great episode today. We've got some hot ice to get into. We've got an Amazing. Charlie McAvoy, USA men's gold medalist and the unluckiest man to ever live joins the show. A nice Bauer interview for you. It's gonna be fantastic. We'll get into that. We'll get to the professors breaking down all the best picks for the weekend, Some games, all of the good stuff. Let's jump into it as Sean thinks about what he loves about hotels. Yes.
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You're gonna remember hot ice.
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We're starting off with a Nick Schmaltz deal.
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Nick Schmaltz, eight years, $64 million to the Utah Mammoth. I love it.
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I absolutely love it. Schmaltz. He's having a great year. I mean, the Utah Mammoth are currently in a playoff spot. We're going for playoffs here and we have Clayton Keller, gold medalist, star of that team. Dylan Gunther has been a machine since they got Sergachev. And he's healthy, he's been fantastic. But Schmaltzy has just blown people away.
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Yes.
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Shout out the Schmaltz family. Shout out Jay Swish, our boy legend. And Nikki over here has just got 59 points. He's absolutely buzzing the for 8 AAV
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with the cap going up. Yep, that's. That's great because if he gives you that kind of production, we go 24. He might score 30 goals this year.
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If he.
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If you're getting 30 goals from an 8 AAV guy, I'm thrilled.
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Correct. Completely agree. And what I love about this guy is he's 30 years old. And seeing a 30 year old get an eight year deal, that was my
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Only concern fires me up. It fires me up. But that's my only concern.
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It fires me up because I'm like, fucking rights, buddy. We need more millennials getting eight year deals. He's still a millennial, right? I think so. Ooh, I'm claiming him.
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Okay, let's take him.
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I'm taking him.
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Let's take him.
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But a 30 year old getting an 8 year deal and like you said, at that 8 million mark, dude, in 8 years, when he's 38 and he's still going to be playing, he's still going to be fine. He'll probably be getting you 40, 50 points. That 8 million is chump change in eight years. So this is a great deal. And what I, I, what I love about it the most is Utah's here to.
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Yes, there.
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You know, they, they, there were times in Arizona where people were like, fuck, are we going to lose Clayton Keller? Like, is he frustrated with the situation here in Arizona? But he's here, he's loving it. Schmaltz is here. Another star player. Yep. And he's like, yeah, I was about to be up and someone maybe could have scooted. He's like, fuck, no, I'm staying here. They're building something special.
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Extension starts next year. His eight year extension starts next year. They're like, dude, we're good.
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This team is a destination. Dude, it's a destination.
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Sure is. We're going to go there.
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And their practice facilities, elite. Yeah, we are going there soon. It's going to be great. So, Utah fans, we'll see you soon. And I love everything about the deal. I love everything about the player. I love everything about the city. I love everything about the team. I love everything about the jersey. I love everything about Mormons.
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Okay,
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maybe not everything.
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Not everybody.
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But I do love that they've got a good sense of humor.
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Yeah.
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Mormons will go and watch the Book of Mormon and they'll go, that was fun.
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Hilarious.
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And that's a good thing. You got to be able to laugh at yourself. Vibes in Utah through the roof. This Nick Schmaltz deal. Fucking rocks.
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Yep.
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What doesn't rock is a marsh hand injury.
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Yep. You know what's interesting about this?
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Shut him down. Shut him down. Keep him healthy. Protect our players. Protect the Panthers.
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The they are now. So what I find interesting. Fuck, Chris. What I find interesting is.
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Hey, lock it up.
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I don't know. We're gonna get to a segment about this question in a second, but I just don't know what they are doing because the cats. Yeah. Because we heard we got video Barkov
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practicing, and I think he looks fresh as lettuce.
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And I'm like, are you out or are you in? Because we heard at the Olympics that, you know, Marshy's dealing with something and he is getting shut down right when we get back. And I was like, oh, wow. I mean, I don't report it. Cause it wasn't told to us in that way. So then we come back and he's just playing. And I was like, oh, wow. I guess that source was inaccurate. And then now they're like, this. Marshy has been dealing with something bad since Olympics, and he probably needs surgery. We're gonna shut him down. And I'm like, what is going on? So he's fine because we know what it is. But I'm like, what is happening? Just either stop playing and miss playoffs or I know.
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They're so interesting because they've won two in a row. They are 11 points out of a playoff spot with 18 games left. And it's weird to think that's. That's 36 points that they could get and you're firmly in play.
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Oh, yeah.
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You know, and it's. Anyone going to say, regardless of what's going on, if this team comes back into the playoffs and they activate Barkov, is anyone being like, they can't win this year? Yeah. I think you're, in fact going, oh, my God. So even with the fact that they're in seventh in the wild card race, I'm like, they. They're still above.500. Yep. And they're obviously good.
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Scary as fuck.
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They kept Bob, and it's like, I want to dead them from. I'm. You're out, dude. You're out. But then they just win two in a row here. And I'm like, I don't know. But if Marshy's hurt, it's too much, dude.
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I can't take it.
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It's. It's. Well, I love it because I love them, but also, this is. It's whiplash like you wouldn't believe.
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You know what?
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Yeah. Like, if I'm a Panthers fan, I'm. I'm.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. No idea.
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How about this? Yeah, I think it is. If they get in, it is rude to us because we have so much love for the Panthers after the journeys we've been on with them now that it takes away from any rooting we can do to any other team in playoffs. And there's some new teams this year.
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It's true.
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So I'm Kind of like I was
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getting horny about maybe being able to hitch my pathetic little bandwagon. Look at this. Dude.
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Strap in.
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Look at this. Yeah, I was gonna sit that thing right on another bandwagon this year and.
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But if Florida gets in, then we go.
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Okay. I am already pot committed back to Lonnie. I'm pot committed to Buffalo. I'm pot committed to Detroit.
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Yeah.
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And here's the issue. I'm soulfully committed to Boston. I got a lot going on Tampa,
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you know, like Florida, Montreal. I'm going back to the Bells. The Penguins. The Penguins.
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You were gonna give me a break here.
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Yeah. We can't have you.
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And now I've got the Ides of March happening in Detroit again, and I can't. I'm an Islanders fan.
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Florida can't get it.
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There's only so much of me to get it.
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We cannot have Florida in. I'm sorry. Next year. Next year, next year.
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If he's hurt, shut him down. Speaking of things that need to get shut down, let's stop hitting Charlie McAvoy in the face.
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This is flabbergasting.
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It is actually insane. And I also feel partially responsible. You will see later, obviously. As we said at the top, we've got a great Charlie McAvoy interview this episode. Good friend, great person. Not a great set of teeth right now. I don't know how many he has left, legitimately.
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Dude.
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He has less teeth in his mouth than. More teeth.
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Yeah. And that shit hurts so bad. Everybody's like, oh, man.
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Hockey got, like, true fans of the POD know. I went through some significant dental stuff about a year and a half ago, and I. It is. It's actually. It messes with your brain chemistry.
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It does, dude. Cause it's just. The pain is just so constant, and
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it's.
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He's. You know, it's, like, easy to laugh at with the look, and obviously, this gets fixed, but, like, he has a family, dude. He's got a wife. Like, you gotta. You gotta.
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And then also fix your face. Everyone talks about hockey tough.
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Yeah.
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And he is hockey tough.
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He.
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He gets more teeth knocked out, and then he comes back in and he wins the game in ot. Like a savage.
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Very, very Jack Hughes of him.
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But it doesn't mean it doesn't hurt. That adrenaline wears off, baby. I promise you. That's throbbing. Yeah, he's got great dentists in there. Great, great team medics in there. That's. Sure. But eventually, that pain comes for you, so.
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He was a nasty goal, by the way.
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Oh, it's disgusting.
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Nah, that's the defenseman doing that shit. Jumping in the rush, three on three, six.
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He's having one of the best years of his career.
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I don't like that this is happening. And he. I think he says in the interview, I can't remember if this was on or off camera, but the rink. And was so hot that the bubble was.
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Yeah, I was like. I was like, dude, put your bubble back on. And he was like, it's so foggy.
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It was crazy. He was like, it was crazy there. But he even. He said, it's not that bad in NHL race. So I'm like. And I'm not. Even though I want to. To be very clear, I want to do this, but I won't launch into my bubble take again. But for him, I'm like, dude, his
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jaw is too fucked up. It's made of oatmeal and maple syrup. Now, you cannot.
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You simply cannot afford another accident. So I'm like, here's the thing.
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Another shout out to J. Swish and Robbie. He's got the best chin in the league.
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Yeah, dude. Chin tucked, baby. Keep that chin tucked.
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The chin is tucked and the chin is made of iron.
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Yeah.
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It's made of Adamantium. Yeah, clearly, because it gets hit every game. But I'm also like, please, we gotta lock it down. I need Chucky to put the bubble back on.
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Is there.
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Is there, like, you know the dream people often have that recurring dream where you lose your teeth. He is living that nightmare. He goes into work every day and loses more teeth.
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Yeah. Is the. I have a question.
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Okay.
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Is the fog. Because the bubble only has, like, a low level of ventilation. Ventilation. And I think if that was just higher ventilation, like, if it went up to, like, a normal visor height, it wouldn't fog at all.
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That's possible.
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And I think the complaint would be like, well, now I'm looking through a cage too much.
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Now you just have a clear cage.
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But I'm like, I think it would
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just look so dumb.
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Yeah. But it would kind of look like an NFL helmet. That's always been my confusion. Everybody's like, it would just look like an NFL either.
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Well, some guys do that. They just wear the chin thing.
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Yeah. I mean, he should do that.
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I kind of agree.
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I'm like, put the fucking chin thing on.
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Put the chin bubble on.
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Yeah, because, like, tuck the chin.
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Protect the chin.
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Yeah, talk it, dude, because you have. You have no teeth. I don't even know what happens to him, dude.
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He is going to get the fucking hottest set of veneers that has ever existed.
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But this is, like, when he. Yeah, when he retires, it's fine. But, like, now you can't. You know, like, the reason was, like,
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I'm so excited for him this summer. We need to do a video series with him this summer of the new teeth reveal. Yeah, like, we'll do a whole funny. Yeah, we'll do a whole episode where we just go down, we go get him set up, we'll get him some teeth, and it'll be an amazing reveal.
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Outrageous.
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But then after that, we need to ensure his teeth for $50 million.
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He should. He should play with, like, a Bane thing on.
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That would be kind of sick.
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You know, like, literally, it's.
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It's. I've never seen anything like the luck he's having.
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Fucking crazy.
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Because it's not like he is a rec. There's nothing about his game that's exposing his teeth. It's just luck. And it's the worst kind of luck. We love you, Charlie. Let's protect the jibs. For the love of God. Nate got ejected.
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Nate got ejected. And I have a question. There's been a few times in the past year, playoffs, for sure. One of them was Stolars on Bennett, or I should say Bennett on Stolars. One was. I forget who else maybe you'll remember. But it was a super similar play. Oh, I thought it maybe was Darce, but there was a super similar play. And basically, it's like these goalies are getting concussed when it appears to me that someone literally grazes their head on the way by. And I'm like, what, dude?
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We need guardian caps for goalies.
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But I'm kind of like the Bennett one, for example. I'm like, no, the Sam Reinert shot off his dome piece. Concussed him three minutes ago.
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Agree.
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You know, so anyway, Nate got ejected and 4. 4. Crashing the net on a backdoor pass. And Connor Ingram comes flying over. I forget what. Oh, it's a nurse. Nurse is right there sticking skates. Everyone's doing great, by the way. It's good D, good offense. And then Ingram gets hit and Nate gets a penalty. And then it's reviewed and he's tossed. And I have been the biggest protector, goalie fan.
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I was about to say. You did this.
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Dare I say, protect our players. Protect our players. Because I'm like, I. I just don't know what's happening yet. And I. I obviously do think we should protect our goalies, because we need Them we need our goalies. But I am like, man, that's an ejection. I just don't understand how these guys are getting so hurt. I'm not calling them liars. I'm not. I believe you.
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Never.
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But I'm saying, how are you possibly getting this hurt? How is that possibly an ejection when Nate is crashing the net back door trying to score?
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I think we need to source Sway and lt. Yeah. And Darce and be like, do your helmets do nothing?
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Yeah.
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Because it is strange how often these, what appear to be kind of love taps to the dome, shake these guys up so much.
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It's nuts. And I just don't think we need to be ejecting Nate for that call.
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But, hey, buddy, you did this. Protect your bullies.
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Yep.
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No one is above the protection of goaltenders.
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You can't even breathe on him. You can't even breathe on them.
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Now you again. You wanted this, and you got it.
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Dare I say stop protecting them? That's the Wild West. We can't live in that world.
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Be careful. Well, in this game, playing the Oilers, we had Elliot Friedman on 32 Thoughts. Said there's a lot of talk out there about Jari getting into it at practice with some of his teammates.
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I just wanted to ask.
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But here's the question. We talked about their deadline, and we were like, this isn't good. Blah, blah, blah. But there are a lot of people who came to the defense of the Dickinson and Murphy ads with the PK stuff. And then that's great. 50% retained, too. That's also great. They just beat the best team in the league.
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Sure did. And nice little goal from McJesus.
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Yeah. Oh, that was disgusting. And you know what? I made sure to mention Leon was not getting enough love for that play because the poise he had. Were taking that puck off the skate and then getting it to his tape and then just given the perfect dish. That was just beautiful. The Oilers fans, I feel for the first time this year were getting real chirpy last night, and I love to see it. Okay. I love to see the fight. I love to see the fight from him. It's been an interesting year. Connor is having one of the better years. Leon's just doing himself, doing his thing, as always. And Boosh having one of his better years. But I feel like vibes in oil land have been a little bit just like, oh, God, what's going on? And last night, beating the Aves in Colorado, we saw some nice, chirpy Oilers
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fandom, and I Gotta say, and, you know, I'm preaching to the choir here. Obviously, the Vegas has been a disappointment. I think, based on their expectations. They're also doing that thing where they're doing like, well, we suck for like a month, which they always do, so whatever. And stones. I know, you know, I know, I know, I know, I know. But it's just Vegas has been a bit of a disappointment. And the Ducks, which has been amazing, you know, aren't. Aren't a lock to just race to the finish, you know, like, they could have a hiccup.
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Definitely.
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The Oilers are, you know, have the best gold diff in the Pacific. And they are very. There's a very good chance or there's a very reasonable chance that they win the Pacific.
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So, you know. You know what I find very interesting? What? The Pacific. We've got the Ducks in first place. Quack, quack, quack. 75 points in their last 10. They're eight and two. Yeah.
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They've engraced.
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Then in second and third with both 72 points, we have the Oilers, who are four and six in their last 10, and the Knights, who are four and six in Their last 10. Again, 72 points in the Pacific. Behind those teams is Seattle with 67, Los Angeles with 67, and San Jose with 66. Those teams are 4 and 6. 36 and 1 and 3. 5, 2 in their last 10. If those three idiots had had a good last 10, this. The Pacific would be fucking. I know.
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Completely. The Pacific is awesome.
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And like, I look at Seattle, Los Angeles, and San Jose, and I'm like, those two teams that were ahead of you gave you the exact opportunity you needed. Yeah.
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And you've shit the bed. Yep.
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I like especially the Kings, who are just, I know. Desperate in this last season with Kopi to get in. I'm like, how have you.
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Are you losing these games?
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These two teams ahead of you who are only five points ahead of you, you have just completely fucked this up, this opportunity. Because, like, are Vegas and Edmonton in the last 18 here going to go 4 and 6 again in their next 10 and 8? You know, probably not.
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Yeah.
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So it was like, this was your chance to flip the script and then stay strong for the rest of the season, and you blew it.
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Yep. So it's crazy. And what I was going to say is the Oilers could very likely win.
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And could you imagine if Edmonton and Vegas missed playoffs?
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Oh, my God. Like, if.
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If la San Jose and Seattle had just surged and they took the second, third, and wild card spot. You're like, that would have been mayhem.
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But it's not going to happen. The oil is probably going to win the Pacific. And I just wonder, remember last year there was, someone was yelling, maybe it was Connor. Someone was yelling at practice. They were like, ah, this is whatever. And then this year it's like Tristan Jar yelling at practice. And I'm just like, man, there's never peace. And they're never just like, we're.
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I don't think there should be there.
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We're a good team.
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I, I, I like it. I, this is not a peaceful team. This, this is, they need this adversity towards the end of the season and look at what it's done.
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It's. They taking them right to the script, baby.
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They're sticking to the script. But, but it would be fucking so electric for the Ducks if they could hold on to this first place and not see Vegas or Edmonton.
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They, frankly, I mean, they could beat those teams, but they, they need to because they.
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You need to keep first and you need to keep first, Keep doing what you're doing. Okay. You want to eliminate some teams from playoffs before we get to the ad break and then jump into the Charlie McAvoy interview. So let's do that right now.
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And this, this, there will be consequences here, Dan, so don't be overzealous.
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Okay?
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I literally want to know who is eliminated from the playoffs.
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I'm going to be very casual, okay.
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In the east, eliminate teams, please.
A
I will eliminate the New York Rangers.
B
Yep.
A
I will eliminate.
B
Oh, I was afraid you were going to say that's it.
A
The Toronto Maple Leafs.
B
The Leafs are out.
A
The Leafs are out of playoffs. Dude.
B
Somebody asked Willie yesterday. A reporter was like, do you think missing playoffs is a one off thing or is this a trend? And he was like, well, I hope one off. And I was like, are you out? Like, did you, are you, are we all, are we talking about this right now?
D
That's fair.
A
I think just such a crazy.
B
I would have been like, it's a zero off. We're making playoffs.
A
I'm eliminating the New Jersey Devils.
D
Wow.
A
And I am eliminating the Philadelphia Flyers. Really?
B
Yeah.
A
Damn. Specifically because I believe Carolina, Pitt and the Islanders are good. Okay. It's going to take a lot for anyone to, to replace them. Columbus could do it.
B
Yeah, Columbus is in the mix.
A
Frankly, I don't see Columbus slowing down. And the Caps, I could see like figuring out a surge here. So I'm going to eliminate all them. I will not eliminate Florida yet. Okay. I will not eliminate Florida ever. Correct.
B
Yeah. Yeah. Until. Until they're literally okay in the West.
A
In the West. I shall eliminate the Vancouver.
B
They are literally almost eliminated.
A
Yeah. I will eliminate the Calgary Flames. I will eliminate the Chicago Blackhawks. I will eliminate the St. Louis Blue.
B
That's it, dude. That's it.
A
That's it.
B
That's it. And I'm.
A
Do we.
B
Yeah. The Blues are eliminated.
A
I can't eliminate the Jets.
B
I almost. I almost left the Blues. I almost left the Blues.
A
So long as heli lives, they have a chance.
B
The Blues gold. If is just so bad that I don't know how they could do it.
D
Yeah.
B
Okay. All right. So great seasons. Canucks, Flames, Hawks, Blues, Rags Leafs, Devil's Flyers, man Leafs eliminated. That's fucking. They're out. They are out. But that is crazy, dude.
A
It's so crazy.
B
Christ. And the Devils.
A
What are you doing?
B
I know.
A
The devil.
B
What are you doing?
A
It sucks so much. Toronto, though, I will say again, this is good for you.
D
Yep.
A
This is going to rest. This is going to enact real. They do not, I assure you, they don't need. They do not need rest. But I believe that this is going to instigate real change, good change, positive change. I think this is good for them.
B
Okay, let's take an ad break.
A
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Now it's time to kick it to an amazing Bauer hockey Interview with Charlie McAvoy. Scoop this post Olympics going to be absolutely fantastic.
B
Oh, what a guy.
A
One of the best one of the best one of the great Empty Netters. Friends in the game. Enjoy. All right, well, back on the Empty Netters podcast, the man we probably owe all of our success to. To be perfectly honest, I'm not even
B
sure if he knows true.
A
And a man with truly an iron jaw. Charlie McAvoy, gold medalist on the pod again. How are you, buddy?
C
Good, man. It's good to see you guys. I know. Hey, I was grassroots, wasn't I, when I came and saw you guys in the office that year. Dude, you look at.
A
Look and then look at us now. Dude, look at us in. In Winter House celebrating a gold medal together. It's. Who.
D
Who.
A
Who could have thunk it?
C
Who would have thought.
A
Who would have thought before we get into the gold, because that. That's all we want to talk to you about right now. I need to know. Last night, playing the Preds, when that puck jumped up and hit you in the face again, what was. What was going through your head?
C
Honestly, right away, I was like, I. I actually can't believe this. Like, I was so defeated.
B
I'm retiring. And that's what went through your head?
C
Yeah, I felt something in my. Like, in my. In my mouth right away. Like, I don't know if I end up getting some snow or something in there, but, like, I thought. I thought I chipped my tooth. I thought I was feeling, like, teeth fragments.
A
Yeah.
C
And I have nothing here anymore. Like, it's all gone.
A
I know.
C
And then I got hit on the other side, where I do have teeth left. And I don't know if you can see it, but I have, like, glue on it now because I got cut there. And I was just like, Larry, half the. All the guys on our team came up to me, and they're like, man, I can't. I'm so sorry. And then I had guys on the Preds, dude being like, dude, your face is a park magnet. Like, I'm so. I can't believe that happened to you.
B
Yeah. Yeah.
A
Oh, good God. It's like. It's actually unbelievable to witness. And when you took your bubble off in Milan, I could not believe my eyes. I was like, what are you doing? Like, you are. You're asking for trouble.
D
It was insane.
A
I know.
C
I had, like, our team doctor, this guy, Dr. Peacock in Boston, who's.
D
Who's awesome.
C
He's been, like, quarterback in my whole thing. He, like. He was very, like, reserved with the timeline, and I was like. So at two months, I remember we were out in Canada on, like, Our west coast Canada swing. And this was like, right after Christmas. And I was like, hey, can I take this thing off now? And he was like, not a chance. Like, you got to keep it on. Like, at least, like, okay, so we're going back and forth on the. On the timeline, and, you know, he's telling me what percentage I'm probably healed and all this. And he, like. Like, it's like three months. Three months I think I'd feel comfortable with. So then, like, sure enough, like, that landed February 17th, we're over in Milan. And I was like, doc, like, you know, I didn't forget about that. February 17, like, you think I'm good to shed this thing? And he was like, yeah, I feel comfortable, I guess, with that. Yeah, I took that thing off as fast as I could. It was. It was so nice to have it off. Like, that rank in Milan. Like, you guys know, it was so hot. I mean, it was. It was so hot in there, too. And, like, in these NHL rings, like, pretty much all of them. Like, I had no problem, like, with the bubble, like, fogging, like, every. Like, on the. On the ice level, they do a really good job of keeping it cold. So I had no problem with that. But then over in Milan, like, right away, I was fogging up. Like, I felt like I couldn't breathe in it. It was getting so hot. So, like, as soon as I could get it off, I was night and day.
A
I mean, I don't blame you, dude, but it's. It's truly been the journey of your jaw and teeth. This has been a story in itself. It's.
C
My mom and dad were the first people to text me, like, last night. They're like, can you put the bubble on for the rest of the season or maybe just the rest of your life? I was like, oh, my God, guys. I know. I couldn't believe it. Thank God. It was just nothing. It was just a little, you know, whatever deflected puck, it was fine. It wasn't a 95 mile an hour slap. One timer on a five on three.
A
Well, dude, we're like, two weeks removed now almost. And are you. Are you still just riding the high? I mean, one of the great childhood dreams accomplished. You have a gold medal. How do you feel?
C
Dude, it's insane. It still doesn't really feel real, honestly. Like, we've had so many people come in. Like, we're, like, rejoining life again here, and we're getting back on our schedule and everything. And we had a.
B
Some.
C
Some friends of ours, they Came over the house today, and it's still, like, I'm bringing. Bringing the gold medal downstairs. Everybody wants to see it. They want to take a picture with it. So, like, yeah, it's still kind of in, like, the honeymoon phase of it, you know? So I've had it out and about, and, like, yeah, not a day has gone by where I'm not taking that thing out and looking at it and. And. Or sending it to somebody or letting somebody try it on. Like, it's just. It's kept it very, very fresh.
B
God, that's so sick, bro. Would you guys. I mean, obviously you play the team in front of you, but were you guys at all? Like, was there chatter in the locker room when you found out it was going to be Sweden in the fucking quarterfinals? Like, were you. Like, this is bullshit. What was. What do people think about that?
C
We had a man. We talked about it. Like, I don't know, the way I had it in my mind. And I think. And I think it was kind of, like, split. Like, you know, some guys were like, fuck, I can't believe that this happened. Like, why are we playing against them? We should be playing against somebody else. Like, you know, it should be, like, easiest, you know, then like, intermediate, and then the hardest. Like, if you thought of it from a quarter semifinal, and, like, we were getting a team that, like, yeah, and I've said this to everybody, like, that team could have won that tournament. I really believe that, like, if Sweden gets by us, like, I think they're playing in the finals, and then anything can happen. So, like, yeah, they had everything they needed, and we happen to have them in the quarterfinal. But, like, for mindset wise, I was like, man, like, you're gonna have to play them at some point. Like, if you want to win the whole thing, like, you're gonna have to go through a Sweden. You're gonna have to go through Canada. You're gonna have to go through Finland. Like, whoever it is that's left standing. Like, you have to go through them to win. So I was just like, you know, instead of thinking, like, man, they played with their food in their group stage, and now we have to play them in the quarterfinal. Like, it was like, fuck it. Like, we're gonna play them at some point. We might as well just play it now and then. And then the other part of that was, like, you know, in hindsight, after, I was like, I feel like we just played a gold medal game. It just happened to be in the quarterfinals. We played our best game of the tournament. At that point, like, we shut them out for 59 minutes. Like, they score then it was, like, resilience on the bench. Like, we still almost won it in regulation. We had a couple of good looks there, like, right away. Right back at it. And then. And then Huggy takes over in overtime and wins it. And after that game, it was like, okay, like, you know, like, we're ready for whatever comes our way now. We know we can do it. Like, we're battle tested now. That was how I think we all felt in the room after that.
A
Dude, I love that mindset. And there was a big part of us that was like, you know, because three good teams that you play in the prelims, but you didn't really have a big, big test where you're kind of up against it with adversity.
C
It wasn't, like, a marquee game. It wouldn't happen. We didn't have that.
A
Exactly. So. So to have that, you know, before the final and even before the semi was kind of awesome. I think I know the answer to this, but obviously, you got Hamp and Elias on that team. You guys obviously don't speak before that game, Correct?
C
Yeah, no, no. I was running into a lot of guys. I kept seeing. I kept seeing Corpi and Yoki the most. The two guys on Finland.
A
Oh, yeah.
C
I did see Elias, like, a bunch of times, you know, and said hello to him, but I didn't run into them before. Before that game at any point, you know, which almost, like, is kind of hard. Like, you saw everybody in the village. It was a small village, like, but, you know, I didn't see them before that one. Just during their, like, group stage. I'd run into them. But, yeah, I mean, even if you did see them, like, maybe a wink, but, like, you're not gonna talk. Like, you know, it's. Yeah, everybody knows what's going on. Like, dude, this is. I mean, the same way that, like, we talked about it, like this, you know, like, I achieved my. My childhood dream. Like, dude, this is their dream, too. This was everybody that stepped foot on that ice. This was their dream. I know no one was gonna be like. And everybody always loves to ask, like, are you guys friends or you do this? Like, yeah, we're friends. We play on the Bruins together. But, like, this is my dream, man.
B
Like.
C
And they're on the other side of it.
A
Yeah.
C
And they'll. So they'll tell you the same thing. Like, you know, and then after, it was like, you know, if we didn't win, you Know, they were like, hey, go win it all. And I would have said the same thing to them. Like, if Sweden clipped us there, that's cool. I would have been like, you guys better win this. You better win this shit. Like, because if someone's going to win it, I at least wanted it to be like, you know, one of my. One of my teammates. But, you know, it just ended up happened to be us. Yeah.
B
Yeah. Chuck, you, dude. You have played in some very significant Stanley cup playoff games. What were the nerves like going into that Canada game in comparison? Like, you know, kind of where does that rank on how you were, how the butterflies were hit? And going into that game, man, I.
C
I kind of like, I don't know if this was like a fake it till you make it type thing, but, like, we. We've beat Slovakia, right? So we're in the dining hall after the game. We play every game at 9 o'.
D
Clock.
C
So it was like the same rinse repeat every time. Like, we'd be back in the dining hall. We'd get back to the, the village by like one. We all just hot stoved in the cafeteria to like, two. Everybody was eating or eating pizza and pasta and we would just hang out in there and like, you know, guys would just pick off one by one. All right, I'm heading up, like. And, you know, we'd be there, like, till there was no one left. And we were having those, those talks. Like, I remember I was talking to Quinn and. And we were going back and forth like we knew we were playing Canada. They had the early game with the late game, and it was like, you know, he's talking about, like, you know, how we're gonna match up and, and this and that. And like, you know, what do you think?
D
What do you think?
C
And I just told him, like, straight up, I'm like, dude, we're. We're ready for this. Like, we are ready for this. There's no part of us that isn't ready for this. I was like, from the moment that, like, I just kept thinking about all the work, like, every summer since I turned pro, since before that. Like, I think every workout and every skate and everything, you prepared your whole life, like, for this. There's nothing else you can do. And then I just kept telling them, like, these are the same guys that we play every single night, you know, Like, I know it's on a grander scheme of, you know, of a USA versus Canada. Like, that is it. It doesn't get bigger than that. That is the top of the mountain. But I was like, this is still just a team built up of the same guys that we play. Like, I was trying to just minimize everything. Like, it's still hockey, it's still, you know, McDavid, Makara, McKinnon. But like, we play them, you know, every night, we play them during the year and we love that matchup. And you take pride in that matchup. Like, that's just what this game is like. It's nothing more than that. And I think I was trying to kind of convince myself a little bit so you stay on point on earth and your feet on the ground. But like, I think, you know, I think Quinn really like, appreciated that. And then, you know, the more we talked about it, it was just like, dude, we're ready for this. We're ready for this. Sleep good tonight. You're gonna be fine.
A
God, that just gave me chills. Dude, that is so awesome. And I do love the fate. It's like, you know, it's. It's the self fulfilling prophecy speak in the positive sense of just like, yeah, we're fine, we're golden. That, like, that's how you convince your brain, dude, that that might have done the trick. This is incredible.
C
Honestly, in a way, Like, I think it kind of helped me going into it. Like, I didn't play it up to be more like. Of course, the night before, like, I. I actually fell asleep really good. But then I woke up, you know, like soon as the sun was coming up. And I think I was up from like 5 to 9. I swear, like, yeah, the excitement kind of took over and I couldn't really sleep at that point. But. Yeah, but I fell asleep like a baby and I was just like, I just felt ready to go. Like at that point, like you kind of come to grips. Like, okay, I've done everything I can. Like, the work's already done. It's already been put in. Like, this team is already where it's meant to be. We've already had the game against Sweden. Like, the camaraderie is second to none. Like the group culture, everything is already like, it's just check every box was checked. It's like, now we just have to go win now, you know? Yeah, we didn't realize like, now we just needed Heli to be Jim Craig for. To go fully nuclear, to go full Jim Craig. But. But at the end of the day, like in a game of hockey, like, you know, if you want to win, you need your goalie. Like, you need. You need certain things to happen and, and In a best of one, like, anything can happen. And. And like, yeah, yeah, that's it. And we got the bounces, we had the goaltending, and you did it. At the end of the day, we made one more play. That's it.
A
Dude, I want to talk about that camaraderie that you just mentioned, because talking to all the boys, I think for one of the first or second thing out of everyone's mouth is the group. The group, the group. And that's, you know, that's the best thing about hockey. It' Come in, guys.
C
Otto.
A
Otto.
D
Otto.
A
There he is.
C
He's on the other side of the gate. Why?
A
But y. There he is.
C
You want to come in? I'll go a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A
So the camarader, but yeah, talking about the boys, like, again, it's just like, it's been so prevalent with what everyone has to say about it. I'm curious, because the team's not that different from the four nation squad, so you already kind of got that taste of playing with these guys in this group. But then it's a little bit different, obviously. And then you get there. I loved in those early games, like that first Latvia game, the funny goals getting called back, the. The Brock crossbar and all that nonsense. And you guys just were completely unfazed. How quick did you know how special this group was and that this was like, absolutely gold is on the table here. And if, like, if you knew already before even, you know, getting with this group in Milan, like, was it just something that was in your mind from the jump of, like, yeah, is a special group?
D
Yeah.
C
I feel like I. Honestly, I could talk about that the entire time. Like, and I. I brought this up to like, a bunch of people, but just kind of going in depth on that, like, this team was built up of a group of guys that I feel like, like. Like a core group of guys that have known each other forever.
A
Yeah.
C
So the 1997 birth year alone, and this was like our. Our little, like, captaincy group. Right. So you know, me, Austin and Chucky, like, that was our 97 birth year at the NTDP. We also had Warrenski, we had Hannifin. We had Keller, got called up to that team, so he was a part of that. The 1996s that were in Ann Arbor when we were there was Larks and Ikes. So, like, yeah, you know, now you already have like a group of like nine guys in there. And then, you know, then there was like, the Michigan connection from a bunch of people, which was like, all the guys that work out there in the summer, like, they had a little, you know, group, but that group mixed with other groups. And then you have our Boston group, and, like, that group mixed in with other groups, and then everybody else just, like, folded right in. Like, just seamless, like a. Like, basically like a puzzle where just all the pieces fit. So when we got together, like, the stories, like, the reminiscing, all that was just there. Like, and. And honestly, the program is probably the biggest part of it. Like, because we all went to high school together, we all experienced so much funny stuff that, like, I will not get into, but just the random stories from that, like, just the. Just the dumb that we all used to do, like, all of that. And then you get together, and now it's 10 years later, and it was like, man, this is our time. Like, I feel like we've been building this since we were 14, 15 in Ann Arbor. Like, that was where, like, those seeds were kind of planted is what it felt like. And then, you know, the Tkachuk brothers, like, Brady was only two years younger then. Brady went to bu. I know Brady since I played with Matthew on youth hockey tournaments when we were 10 years old. Like, Big Walt used to get me, like, my favorite players jerseys signed, like, through my dad.
D
Like.
C
Like, that's how, you know, like, all of these things. Like, we've known these people our whole lives. It felt like. So when you get that group together, like, now we're at the stage of life where everyone's at each other's weddings, you know, like, I'm at Matthews this summer. Like, he was at mine. Like, we're. We're, like, at that point now, like, dude, this is love, man. Like, this is guys that we grew up with together. We made it together. And then this was. Like, this was just this experience that we got to all have. Like, it just still doesn't feel like it's unbelievable, honestly. Like, you couldn't script any of this stuff better, really. Like, parents together up top there, and you see them, and they're, like, getting together again and. And going over all that stuff. Like, it was just, like, one big reunion that happened to be at the Olympics and we happened to win the gold medal. Like, it. Literally, it couldn't have been more perfect. The whole thing was just perfect.
A
You honestly, you just hit the nail on the head from.
B
For.
A
For us from, you know, an outside, inside perspective. It's like, I think you could see the success and the camaraderie of this group from, you know, years and years ago in World Juniors, like, you could see the chemistry there. And then it makes sense that it translates here. But for us, man, I think the thing that we got hit with the hardest with the emotions, was seeing the families at the celebration after interacting with each other. Because, like, you're like. You just said, like, they all know each other. I was like, this is actually the coolest one big family moment I have ever seen in my entire life. It was.
C
Yeah, man. Like, I lose track of it. Like, if I'm going back, like, you know, I don't even know. Like, you could. You could pick most sets of. Of parents there. And, like, there's something like, you know, either I played at a world championship with them, so my dad knows Mr. Larkin well from that, like, or there was, you know, something else along the way. Where we met her, it was youth hockey, where, like, the parents were sitting on the glass together. Like, there were so many just tie ins, which I find is so unique with USA Hockey. And, like, you know, I don't know, that might be true for Hockey Canada or wherever else, but, like, there was just so much familiarity and, like, just, like, grassroots stuff. And then you get the families all there together. Literally, it was one big reunion. And then you see how much, like, you know, the parents get along and how cool that was. Like you said at the Winter House, like, that dynamic, it was like, man, it was hugs for everyone. Like, even the ones you didn't know. Like, you know, now you're forever. Like, you know. Yeah, it was just amazing. It couldn't have been better.
A
Chills.
B
I just wanted to ask, dude, what did you see what that Helly got his paddle on that, like, in that moment, did you know what happened?
C
Dude, I had a front row seat to it. Like, that would have been the worst dash of my life. And it was crazy. Like, when I. When I watched it or, like, I know what happened live. And then I went back and watched, like, McKinnon was on the. Like, he was net. And then he started to scope out. So, like, Marner's rolling over and I'm kind of scoping out, like, to try and take away a one timer. And it's taves that just comes down the middle and ends up back door. And, like, I turn around and I just had the perfect view of that. And when he, like, I was like, my heart dropped, like it was a goal. And I'm like, man, this is how we're gonna come back. Like, all right. I couldn't believe, like, I couldn't actually Fathom that it didn't go in the net. And then, you know, obviously in the moment, like you just keep playing. Like it was like we got back to the bench. Okay, dodged it.
B
Okay.
C
Like one minute later you're back on the ice. And then it wasn't until after that you see that. And like now I'm getting like, dude, you guys are sending me the shirts that are being made with, with the blow up picture of that. Like, I think they're in the. Now I'm gonna be wearing that. Like, that is the most iconic save I think, you know, I, I can't think of a bigger one, you know, in all the hockey. Just with the stakes, you know, what it meant to, to everything, what it ended up meaning to USA Hockey to, To like. Yeah, all of it.
A
Like, legitimately, I think you're right. I think, I mean, certainly USA Hockey, I think that is the biggest. It's. It's without a doubt the biggest save in USA hockey history. But like it might be in hockey, period. That was insane. But I do, I do want to know your perspective of. Because like that one's the headlines, right? Like we saw Helly on wingman with Brady and Matthew and like he's got the puck mark on the paddle.
C
Yeah, that was sick.
A
But dude, you, you had a game saving save as well. That is not getting talked about as much, which is fucking crazy. Like, walk me through that play. Like, did you black out in that moment? Because like that was just a scramble and next thing you know, you're on the crease and you're blocking a shot and then you're down on your knees and everyone's just like, like pushing it out.
C
Completely blacked out. Like in the moment, like you're not thinking like, oh my God, I just saved a goal. Like it happened. Like it felt like it happened in slow motion. Honestly, I like kind of like ended up back at the net. Like I was in a good spot and then like I see this thing coming and if there was any more pace on that, like I don't know if I get to it in time. And then like even going back and going back and seeing it after, like how close it probably was to the line when I finally got like my body around it and like, like kind of gloved it out. Like, it wasn't until after the game that I, that I went back and was like, oh my God, like that was a goal. Like, like you saved that. Like it. I had no idea of it in the time. Like, I was so in the Moment that, like, everything, like, heli save. Okay, next, like, that save, like, didn't realize exactly how big it was. Like, even after it, like I punch it out and then it was like, like, I'm on my knees.
D
Okay.
C
Like, they might get another shot here. Dude, Larks was down on all four, sliding, like, block it. And then we got it out. Like, there was a lot of that second. You know, like, honestly, in the second and third period, like, we weathered a lot. Like they. We stay certainly, you know, they. They had it going for. For a good amount of that game, you know, but we just defended it like we were. We trusted in our. In our defense, really, you know, and then obviously you get a couple hundred ounces and the rest is history.
D
Yeah.
A
And then finally before we let you go, because I know we gotta get you to the network, but going into that overtime, like, you just said, like, they. They were wheeling and. And you guys just weathered the storm. Just trusted in the d, trusted in heli and. And made it. Made it work. Going into ot, were you guys calm? Were you, like, fired up? What were the vibes on the bench? Because I feel like. I think it was. Who said it to us? I think maybe. Maybe Lark said it or. Or no, it was. Matthew was like, we knew the, like the six or so guys that were going to be going out and rotating, so we just kind of sat back and went, all right, let's take care of it.
C
It's kind of funny.
A
What was the energy?
C
I mean, on that note alone, like, so against Sweden, I didn't play in overtime. I think we rotated. I think we rotated Huggy Z and Sandy, I think, and they made it through like a full rotation before Quinn won it. And then so I, like, I didn't even re tape my stick. Like, I'm such a ball of nerves and I'm like, okay, like, one of these guys needs to win it. Like, one of these guys needs to win it. And then, you know, we get out there and like, Quinny was like, Coach Quinn was like, hey, like, Hughes, are you starting? He's like, charlie, you're up next. I'm like, what? Let me tie my. Let me tie my skates a little tighter. I was, I had in my. In the back of my head, like, I wasn't, you know, I was still, like, in it because I knew, like, if this thing goes 20 minutes, like, we're going to roll more than three guys are going to get tired. So I was there, but I wasn't. I just wasn't expecting being like, the second man over the boards, and when he was like, whoever plays the best defense is going to win this, and that was what he said. And, like, I knew in my mind, like, you know, I played three on three of the first one over the boards for the Bruins. Like, you know, I know I can make a play in that situation, but I kind of also realized, like, you know, it might be a D zone start. It might be something like, okay, like, I know I'm just going to defend my ass off here and try and put, like, you know, the next guy in a good situation. Like, we'd had guys that are so good at that offensive side of it. But then, yeah, to go over second, like, I was like, oh, here we go. Like, I think I ended up blocking. Celebrini came down. I blocked a celebrity shot.
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Oh, yeah.
C
And then it kind of, like, came to me in the neutral zone and, like, bobbled. And then. And then that was it. That was my one shift, and we wanted the next shift. I switched for Z, and. And then, literally, Z went out there, and then that was it, man. That was it. But, yeah, as far as nerves go, like, you know, Sully kept saying it. He was like, we need to have, like, you know, our. Our American swagger. Like, all the confidence in the world here. Like, who's gonna be a hero? Like, who's gonna go down in history right now as the hero? Like, it's someone in this room. It's someone in this room. And, like, that I believed. Like, you know, I. I believed all of it. Like, what are you gonna do? Sit in that room and not think? I'm like, dude, we have the horses. Someone's gonna win this game right now. And then I started thinking in my head, like, okay, Helly's paddle. Safe. Like, that thing hit me in front. Like, McKinnon missed a wide open net. Like, all of these things, you start playing back, and it was like. Like I could convince myself, like, this is meant to happen today. Yes, this is meant to happen today. Like, all of these things have. Have happened, like, you know, for a reason. Like, this is our time. And then, you know, man. And then he, like, jack. Jack scores that goal. Absolute bedlam. Like, just euphoria. I don't remember a single moment of it. I wish I did. Like, who I hugged first? Couldn't tell you what I was about to ask.
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Who you hugged first.
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Like, dude, I don't have a clue. I got into that pile. I threw my stuff like. Like, I cut my side of my face on Hanni's teeth because we both jumped at the same time and it was just like, headbutt. I'm bleeding, I'm getting blood all over everybody. I'm hugging, like. Yeah, it was, man. It was just like the amount, like that joy that you feel in that moment, like you honestly can't even put into words. It's insane. You're just floating, you're floating around truly,
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truly all time, dude. I mean, we're, we're, you know, we don't need to say it to you for the 50th time, but we're, we're so pumped for, so proud of you. It was unbelievable to see and I can't wait to just watch you take the momentum into everything else, dude. And I know we got to get you to the network here, so we're going to let you go, but just do us a favor and just protect the money maker for the rest of the season, for the love of God. Because I just like, I, I can't see you get hit in the grill one more time. It's insane, dude.
C
Oh, my God. I'm already like, planning all my, my, my plastic surgery this summer to try and make myself look pretty again. It's gonna be, it might, it's gonna be a few sittings to get this, this mug looking good again.
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Well, dude, we'll get you out to la. We got some great stages. We'll get you taken care of.
C
Send me to the guy that gives me, like, veneers and a full back tat all in one sitting.
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Yeah, just.
C
Next man.
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There you go. Yeah, it's the LA2 for one. That's what they call it.
C
Yeah, the LA2 for one. All right, boys.
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Huge thank you to Charlie. Huge thank you to our friends at Bauer. Incredible interview. Incredible Olympic experience. I could talk to every single player on that team and hear every single story a million times. Agree.
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And just love Charlie so much. Good friend of the program. Just great, great, great human. Love his family so frickin much. Everyone in his life is amazing because he attracts amazing people. Because he's an amazing person.
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Yep.
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Daniel? Daniel, yes. Also Professor Feeny.
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As we're turned. We do have Professor Feeny back. That's very exciting.
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Fresh trim.
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Do I get to take the money from Evanswick?
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Yes, absolutely.
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And if a man leaves his post and leaves his pouch of coins, then you get to take it.
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Professor Feeny. I will say we have dubbed him Dr. Watkins.
D
Oh.
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Because it sounds like Dr. Watson.
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Unfortunately, you do not have a PhD.
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No, but Professor Feeny is brilliant.
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Brilliant, brilliant Scarlet, brilliant scholar. The mega parlay recap, gentlemen. We haven't had one of these in quite some time because we had the Olympics. Yes. Yes.
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Where the United Kingdom did not have a team, which was fucking ghost.
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Fucking rubbish. Absolute mega parlay recap. Bruins, yes. Devils, yes. Sabers, yes. Pens, no. Bolts, yes. Mammoth, yes. Jets, yes. Kings, no. Kains, no. Isles, yes. Sens, yes. 8 and 3. 8.
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8.
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It's fucking 3.
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On the mega parlay. People were losing their minds. It felt like we were about to become the richest men in the entire.
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I believe the Pens. I think I should double check. I believe the Pens was a sneaky loss. It was right there.
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I think it was.
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And if we had hit that now, then you're going. Bruins, yes. Devils, yes. Sabers, yes. Pens, yes. Bolts, yes. Mammoth, yes. Jets, yes. Before then, you start thinking genuinely, people
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would have been sitting their knickers freaking out if we had potentially pulled this.
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Thinking about the beach. Okay, then. The life on the line. The life on the line parlay recap. Canes, no.
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Absolute shamble.
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Devils, yes. Sabers, yes. Isles, yes. The Canes were down four, one in the third and came roaring back. And I got a text from Daniel and he said, Dr. Canes pulled us off. We have done it again. We've done it again.
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It would have been two in a row. Life.
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Two in a row. So lost five for crushing. Crushing loss. But three in one. Life in the line. Axe are more together than they had been previously.
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This is quite true.
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Stay hot.
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Now, the most consistent thing, more than death and taxes.
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Yes, sir.
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Is the Friday Fade. We gave you cats over the Wings and contemplated giving you the Blues over the Sharks as well. Well, guess what, Botinka ting both of them hit the Friday Fade is truly the most flawless bet in the world. And frankly some of you are still not doing it.
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It's quite.
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And I'm not quite.
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It's quite baffling.
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I'm not sure what is happening this Friday. Friday the 13th, there are two games. We only have two options and they are difficult. We have the Kings at the Islanders and we have the Oilers at the Blues. I shall stop there. There is the most obvious decision of the Fade that has ever existed. Connor McDavid, the most electric and diabolically talented hockey player to grace this planet, heads to the lowly St. Louis Blues. Even at home, they stand zero chance.
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Sometimes the Fade faces its greatest test. And this is one of those times.
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This Friday might be just that situation. There is literally no godly chance that the St. Louis Blues, even in their own home can defeat the Edmonton Oilers. Therefore, we shall fade and take.
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And we take the Blues. The Blues to win for country and for St. Louis. And they shall take down McDavid and Dreisaidle.
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And that is the Friday fade. Now the Saturday. Sally, we gave you Morgan Geekie. He did not score.
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He did not score. He scored. Sometimes we make. We make the Saturday celly selection on a Wednesday. It is Wednesday today. And sometimes we pick a player and then that Thursday they score. And I think to myself, fuck. Because now they must score again.
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It is actually diabolical how often that happens. I know the scoring begins and I go of fucking shit.
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And we took Sir Geeky and then Thursday Sir Geeky. And I thought to myself, fuck. Because now he must score again. He did not. It's not our fault, truly, frankly, it's not our fault. It's not our fault this Saturday, Daniel. There was selections. There was a plethora of selections. Home, home. You know we love a home, Selly.
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We do. I like one very much.
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There is Robo and have been pumping in goals. They play at home versus the Wings on Saturday. Boldy and Kirill are pumping in goals. They play at home versus the Rags on Saturday. And then goal Caufield, who's I think third in the league plays at home versus the Sharks.
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Now for those who know, I have a bit where every single time Cole Caulfield scores, I tweet Cole Caulfield is getting 40.
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Yes, sir.
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He's quite close.
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He's quite close.
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He has not scored in his last two games. He plays Tonight we are recording on a Thursday or on a Wednesday.
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Excuse me, Daniel.
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I'm sorry, sorry, sorry. He plays tonight. We'll see if he scores. If he doesn't, I actually even like it more.
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Oh, I would love it. He's tied for his career high.
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Boldy and Kirill against the Rangers is quite interesting. I feel as though I picked Morgan geeky last time. So therefore, Professor, I shall hand the reigns to you. You may pick this Saturday, Celly.
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Fuck.
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Pray to God they don't score on a Thursday.
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I believe that Cole Caulfield will get 40 this year. He's tied for his career high 37. I believe he will not score on Thursday because when you tied for your career high, you get in your own head. You live up here in your head and you think, how can I ever pass this mark? How can I pass this?
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Course, of course makes sense.
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It'll take him some time. And then Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday. He faces a team who's traveled across the lands to Montreal and they will not be able to keep the puck out of their net. Actually, maybe they will. I don't know yet. They might win. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. But I do. I am sure that Cole Caulfield will score Gold Caulfield Saturday selling book it booked. Sunday hat trick parlay. Last Sunday we gave you the ducklings under 6.5 in a cutter point because the Blues were going to trade away their entire team on Friday. They did not trade away their entire team and they won. 4 nothing.
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That victory over the Ducks was fucking absurd.
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It was preposterous.
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It was truly ridiculous.
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Ridiculous.
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Who do you think you are? St. Louis to win that fucking game. 4 Nothing.
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Don't look at me and tell me that Cairo and Thomas are gone and Binnington goes absolutely. And then ask me to wager and then you fuck me.
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Shambolic display. I hated it. It was terrible. Let's get back on track with the Sunday hat trick.
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Ballet the options, Daniel. Blues at Jets, Sharks at Sens. Ducks at Habs. Leafs at wild. Preds at Eulers. Cats at crack.
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Oh, dear me, dear me, dear me. You seem to like the Diddy Bowl.
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I thought it might be quite funny to do the Diddy bowl which is the Predators and the Oilers.
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Dear me, the Diddy Bowl. It's become quite a popular game in the NHL. The over is five and a half that we are living with. I like the over in this match.
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Normally I'm an underman, but the over
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five and a half. The Predators have been Playing nice hockey. I believe the Oilers are finding their stride. They're infighting.
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They want to win.
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They enjoy friction. Yes, which is ironic given that they are Oilers. But things are turning. McDavid is streaking. We will take the Oilers money line. We will take the over five and a half. And we will take a McDavid point. That is your Sunday hat trick. Parle Oilers over five and a half. McDavid Point and the diddy boil. The Diddy bowl shall be quite oily and boily. Now, Professor Feeney, get your picks ready. We shall head into the mega parlay. We will start with the Ducks at Sens. With you, Professor Christopher.
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Starting with me. Ducks at sens. Mega parlay. 14 games. I shall take Both have been quite great. I shall take the Ducklings. Brilliant, Professor Feeny. Bruins at Caps.
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I will be taking the Bruins.
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Yes.
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Done this. Feeny.
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He hasn't missed a beat.
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Daniel.
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He has not missed a beat. Daniel Aves at Jets.
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Stay on the away train. I think the AVs are feeling the heat from Dallas and Minnesota. It will be the AVs.
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They need it. Christopher Rags at Wild. The Wild comfortably. Professor Feeney Leafs at Sabers.
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I don't really like either.
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Ah, yes.
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That feels. Professor the. Well, Daniel, I shall not influence your pick.
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Yes. Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah. I'll go. I'll go. Leafs.
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Yes. I love that pick, to be honest with you. Some things that go up must come down eventually.
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Oh, it's terrible for me.
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Daniel. Sharks and Habs.
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Both teams need a win. They're in a playoff hunt. Oh, shocks.
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Yes. Daniel. Christopher Kane's at Bolts. I'll take the Bolts. They need to win. They need to win. Professor Feeny. Kings at Devils.
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Devils.
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Devils.
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Yes. Yes. Daniel. Flames at Isles.
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We love fun. We will take the Isles. And it's not even a question.
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Christopher. Jackets at Flyers. Ah, the Jackets had been good. I will go the Jackets there. I almost went to home team. Cause they needed more. But the Jackets have been quite good. Feeny Wings at Stars.
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Stars.
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Stars. Wonderful game, that. Wonderful game on a Saturday, Daniel. Pens at Mammoth.
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Feels crazy to pick against the Pens. Yes, it does, given their current form. But the Mammoth at home, I like it a lot. I will take the Mammoth.
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Mammoth. Now I'm actually going to just change places with Feeny. I'm going to take Hawks at night and I will actually go. Vegas has been terrible, but maybe they win at home. I will go nights. Feeny Spunk at Canucks for old time's sake.
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Spunk.
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Spunkini.
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Spock graffiti. Incredible. The mega Parlay. Live on a beach. Ducks, Bruins, Aves. Wild. Leafs, Sharks, Boats, Devil's Isles, Jackets, Stars. Mammoth Spunk. Knights. Brilliant. Brilliant.
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Now life on the line parlay. Four games, four teams to pick to see if we can get some magic
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going, get some real money.
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Professor Christopher, you were the only one who missed last week. Therefore, I believe you need to start.
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I did start last week and I'm the only one that missed. So perhaps you start because I don't know. But I started and lost.
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Fine, I shall start. Okay, here is our first game. I feel bad because this goes against something that Professor Feeny.
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That's all right. The lifeline.
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Very different. It does not. No, it does not. My first game for the Saturday Tilts. Here we go. They did beat the Leafs, but those guys are on Schneef. Toronto might never win another game. The Rag said no bs. They should have said do less because not playing at all would be just the same. Billy G. Stands for gold. And if I may be so bold, this team is as good as Cherry Garcia, Baldy, Krill and Huggy. This team gives me a chubby and the Rangers team gives me diarrhea. Wild Moneyline.
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God, the Leafs.
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Dude.
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I don't know when the last time any of you have had Cherry Garcia is, but it's a delicious Ben and Jerry's ice cream. It's fantastic.
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I actually. Professors. I had a tough time selecting my guests in this one.
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Did you?
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Yes. I. I was stuck between a few. I'm going to go with the two. I'm deciding in the moment. I'm deciding right here in front of you, in front of your very eyes. I'm deciding who we are going with with leg number two. Next leg.
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Next leg.
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Only one hard out of three on this New York session. Kings wins. They surely do need some too. Hard out of three would have been out of the question for who likes a Devil's threesome? Kings 21.
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Oh. King's money line.
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King's Money Line. Lego.
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All right, our third leg. They say knock if you buck, but this team fucking sucks. Get McKenna or sell the whole club.
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Spunk.
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Spunk's lost two in a row. They need the mojo to flow if they want playoffs. They need a good run. Can you go very far without a big star? Seattle knows it's a team effort in hockey, so everyone pile in. Teamwork gets the win.
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Let's finish with a nice Bukhaki spunk.
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Money Line.
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Oh, my God.
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We're getting way too sexual with these.
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This is not going to help. Mine is not going to help. Mine is not going to help. Final leg, gentlemen, final leg. Professors Heli and Nate have matched up before and there was a play that should have been fatal. If the jets give him another wide open backdoor, he's not going to pass up on adol.
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Too far. We've gone too far. There's no defense for this man. There's nothing more to say other than that has been your lecture with the professors. Those are your picks. Trust what you will, avoid what you must. Brilliant stuff, sir. Go see a doctor. At the top of this episode, we mentioned the buff daddy's haircut. It looks fantastic.
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Thank you.
A
I have a theory that I have had long hair many times in my life. That's not my theory, that's a fact. I loved my long hair. I enjoy my long hair. Chris is obviously a big long hair guy. Sean, you just had long hair. I think a lot of men look great with long hair. I believe passionately that 90, 98% of men, when they have long hair and then cut it, everyone goes, oh, my God, you look incredible.
B
Yeah.
A
That's not to say that they didn't look great with the long hair, but whenever a fella goes from the long hair vibe and then gets a nice clean cut, people always go, wow, you look great.
B
I have a couple questions. Were you a long. Was that the first time you ever had long hair?
C
No, no, I.
D
So I had the longest my hair has ever been. It's been past my shoulders before when I was like a teenager.
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Yes.
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And it was basically what happened was, is that I thought, oh, you know, it'd be really cool is if I grew my hair right long. I was like in my teen years. Yeah. And it didn't really grow down as much as just continuously grew out.
B
Yeah, sure.
D
Until the weight overtook it and it all kind of flopped down at once. And then I changed schools and the new school was like, you need to cut your hair. And I kind of.
B
Wait. They said they. It was a need to.
D
It was a need to. There was like a. We had to like, it was an all boys school and it had to be like above the collar was like the Yankees vibe.
B
Yeah. Interesting.
D
But the. I was kind of relieved because I was so sick of the hair. But everyone had like turned the hair into such, like, part of my identity. Yeah. I was kind of like, I don't want to. I don't want to disappoint my fans.
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Did you. Did you only go to that school for this? Oh, if I transfer they'll make me, and then it's not my fault.
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That would have been a good strategy. I. I went to the school because I needed to get different subjects for my. My leaving cert. But the. Yeah, it's like, people. It got to the stage that people were, like, stopping me. Like, strangers were stopping me in the street to take photos with me.
B
Are you serious?
D
That happened more than. Where were you in Dublin? Yeah.
B
Why? Because they. Because no one has long hair.
D
I looked like a toilet brush. It was like, kind of really, really skinny and then a big mop of hair on the top of it. So it kind of. I did kind of give Sideshow Bob vibes, so I understand why. I was like, a short palm tree walking.
B
Yeah.
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When your hair gets that long and it is curly like yours, I do think it's a bit of a statement. And some people are like, I gotta look at. At this. This is amazing.
D
Yeah, it was a full on, like. Like Afro. Yeah, but the. But yeah, no, like, I. The reason why my hair grew out to the length that it did this time was twofold. Number one, I had been moving and job and everything else was a lot, so I didn't really have the time. And number two, in this economy, I can only really afford to get my hair cut, like, two times a year. So I'm trying to just save money rather than just regularly getting your hair cut, like, every month. You know, it's like, at the end of the day, it costs whether they cut six inches off or they cut a centimeter off. Does it make a difference? Cost?
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Sam, this. Okay, this brings me to my two most most important questions about this situation. I. I get like one haircut a year. And because I like. I both kind of. Everything you said, I like having long hair. Or I guess everything you both said, I like having long hair. But also it feels awesome when it gets annoying when it hits the annoying point and you're like, boom, see you later. And it was an added perk that I was like, oh, nice. I just have this one expense. But I will say ignoring expense. Unless you are actively growing your hair. Unless you're trying to have your hair long, you probably should be getting. I can't believe I'm hearing this from you. You probably should be getting your hair cut. Every a month is the longest, I think. Like, I know dudes, I know guys I used to work with who are senior. Senior execs making a ton of money would get their haircut every week. Cause they were like, this is the hair length that I want and just
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go touch it up.
D
Senior, senior execs, they can afford to.
B
Yes, yes. Ignoring money. So if you actually have a hair length you like, I understand the theory of I'm just gonna get my hair cut all the time.
A
You're blowing my hair back with this take right now. Because coming from you.
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Yeah, I don't like that. That's what I'm saying. So it's not for me, but.
A
But for you, I think it is. There are a couple of factors. I understand the money element, but at the same time, I'm kind of like, I have a shout out. Nikki the barber shout out svelte barbershop in Manhattan Beach. That is where everyone in LA should go. It's the best barbershop and Nikki is the best barber in the world. And for a men's haircut, it's $50. And I tip Nikki 10 bucks and it's $60. $60 a month is not an expense. That is a. That's one meal. That's a. That's a nice meal. But it's a nice meal. Sean, calm down. It's a nice meal.
B
Okay?
A
That's one night at the bar.
B
Oh my God. That's one banana.
A
You know it's a banana, Michael. What could it possibly cost?
D
We were joking earlier about Chris, like giving a new towel every day and washing. We're like, haha, that'd be so expensive. 365 towels a year. You could actually do that.
B
Dan's Every meal is 60 bucks.
D
Every meal is 60 bucks.
A
Don't. Don't forget that I have $3,000 Venmo expenses that I just wear.
B
Yeah, yeah, right.
A
I'm. You're investing in yourself. I'm a big. Look at the way I dress. Like, I.
D
You.
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You got to invest in yourself. A haircut is a nice thing. It boosts your mood, it makes you feel good. I think $60 is totally reasonable. And my point is, I get. People want variety. You want to spice it up, you want to try something new. But it's also. It's hard. Growing your hair takes a while.
B
Oh, yeah.
A
So it's like, there are a lot of guys I know who are like, I want to try something different. And I'm like, well, if you really want to try something different, you need to grow your hair for at least six months then. So you can then have the clay to mold something out of. But if you're not doing that and you have the hairstyle that you like, you should get a haircut every month. Because it's like, here's the deal, man. I always laugh at people who go, yeah, I love the length of my. I get my haircut. And then after about like four, three, four weeks, it's at the length that I really like. And I'm always like, oh, oh, they
B
cut it too short.
A
I know tons of dudes who do that.
D
In fairness, when you get a fresh cut, sometimes it does look like. Like the little lego man.
B
Yeah. It doesn't perfect.
D
And it needs to kind of.
A
I believe you need two days.
D
Two days.
A
I need two days after the cut. Like your hair shocked.
B
Yeah.
A
It takes two days to settle into what it is. But if you've got a good barber and if you've got. Or a good stylist and then you've got a length that you like, they can do it. And. Right. I mean, I leave Nikki and I walk out of the barbershop and I'm like, I love what is happening because Nikki knows how to cut my hair. And I do not understand the people who go, yeah, I get it cut like extra short. And then in like three weeks, it's right where I like it. And I'm like, you should just get it cut there. Get it cut to that length. And I say that to you all the time because you get your haircut, so. Or you used to get your haircut so short.
B
Yeah, I still do sometimes.
A
And then you would grow it out for six months or longer, and it gets so long that it looks like a rat's nest. And I'm like, just cut it to the three month mark where it's like in the middle.
B
I like this short. It's fun for a little while.
A
Well, then you.
B
I'm an outlier case.
A
Yeah.
B
Because I'm not doing anything. I'm just like, you're an absolute nightmare. And then it's. Then it's more fun, and then it's even more fun. I think haircuts cost too much.
A
I think.
D
I agree.
A
I agree they do cost.
D
I mean, some people are saying 60amonth is absolutely nothing and they wipe their ass with hundred dollar bills. But I agree that haircut cost too much because I am a poor boy and I choose between eating or drinking per day.
B
Yes.
A
Yes. You're gonna choose eating.
B
Yeah. Oh, no, not on Saturday.
A
I agree completely. I think haircuts should either cost less and then we still tip, or we remove tipping from haircuts.
D
Or do it be more cost effective to shave my hair entirely and get like a toupee and just like, shave it myself, like, every day. And then the cost of toupee is outweighed by how much money I used
A
to cut my own hair and my teammate's hair in college.
B
Because it was the buzz, though. You were doing well, No, I was doing stuff.
A
Like, I wasn't using shears, really, but, like, I was. It wasn't buzz cuts. Like, I was giving people.
B
Yeah, you had all the layers.
A
It was cool. But it was mostly. I mean, it was just costumes.
D
How did you get it? How did you, like, learn to do that?
A
Honestly, I think I. Because I like frequent haircuts, and I had no money. In high school and prep school, I shout out, Ethan Hirshberg. He was like, a buzz cut guy. And one day he, in prep school, came up to me with his clippers and was like, can you give me a buzz cut? And I was like, no, I have no idea how to do. And he was like, I'll walk you through it. It's not hard. So I started cutting Ethan's hair for him. And then I was like, oh, this isn't that hard. And then I started getting fed up with when my hair would get longer. And I was like, I don't have time to go to the barber or money to go to the barber. And I was like, you know what? I'm gonna try it. And it was just trial and error. And then I eventually was like, I think I gotta handle it on this.
B
And, dude, I think that. And I don't want our barbers to starve either. Right. Like, I don't know the math on how they stay afloat, but I'm like, protect our barbers. I don't think that there's definitely a level of, you are bad at cutting hair. You need to pass that. But I think most barbers that are working are above that bar.
A
Agree. I will say, though, when you find a good barber.
D
Yep.
A
Like Nikki, it is the greatest feeling in the world going in and knowing they know exactly what you want. They know how to cut it. You have to deal with finding people who know how to cut curly hair, which is totally a thing. Yep. And when you find that, you fight for it.
B
You fight for it. But you have short haircuts, dude. Cause I don't know what they. I don't know where you went. Where'd you get your haircut?
D
Right across the street. And I kind of. They were. They were nice. It was a good haircut, but it was so expensive.
B
How much?
D
I almost fainted. It was $90.
B
And. And normally the long haircuts, like, when I go get my haircut, they're like,
A
no, your hair does not get so long that Nikki charges you more than a men's haircut. No, they should charge per inch. You don't have long hair. Like, they. They're talking, like, way well past your shoulders is when it gets to long haircut length. You got to start cutting your hair more frequently, pal. Yeah, I bet if you went and got it cut right now, which you should, because it's getting too long. You're getting too long.
B
Yep.
A
You should go get it cut. I bet it would only cost 50.
B
Okay, so that's interesting. And then what about this, Sean? Are you. Well, what's your. What's your shampoo frequency?
D
Oh, like, pretty much every time I very. I have a very dry scalp. Okay. It's like.
A
But you don't need to wash it every time. You can use conditioner. Conditioner is what helps your dry scalp.
D
Probably every second time. Probably every second time I wash it, I use.
B
So I'm wondering if. If all that money. And I'm talking to myself here, too, if all that money you're saving on less frequent haircuts, you're blowing through your shampoo budget. Because the long hair requires more shampoo. Shampoo.
D
Oh, we gotta figure this out.
B
So, you know, we gotta start doing math now. I'm thinking, Sean, more frequent haircuts, cheaper haircuts, less shampoo.
D
You notice the two different Americas that are here right now? You and I are wondering how much money we can save with shampoo over long term, with shorter hair. Meanwhile, we got $60 per meal over here.
C
This is a class.
A
I'm saying something to you that's going to upset you.
B
Ah, fuck.
A
You are not. You don't shampoo that often.
B
I shampoo? Yeah. I mean, not. Not every two.
A
I think with your long hair, with the fact that you don't wash your towels and you don't wash your sheets and you don't wash your pillowcases or my body. And with the fact that you play hockey and stick your head into a hockey helmet three days a week, you should be at least conditionering more often because sometimes your hair smells bad.
B
I conditioner every day, okay? I shampoo. I try to shampoo like, never.
A
Like women.
B
I shampoo after hockey.
A
Women don't wash their hair all the time because it's bad for your hair. And the natural oils are good, but they have dry shampoo for the smell and for, like, taking care. Like, you got to just keep that in mind, if you're gonna have longer hair.
B
Agree. And I think the longer hair actually should be shampooed more like short hair, you can shampoo never.
A
Yeah.
B
But long hair, it's like, okay, but again with the sports, I'm forced to shampoo. I don't even want to shampoo as much as I do. But I shampoo because when I finish the game, I'm covered in sweat and I'm like, okay, okay. Is that. Would people. Would hair. People say don't shampoo then either. Girls that don't with long hair that don't shampoo that much. The ones that are athletes, did they get out of a hockey.
A
Good question. We got to ask the gals. Because I don't know. Because, I mean, when I work out, I mean, when I play hockey, obviously, my. My head is completely soaked.
B
Yeah.
A
Top to tip to t. T taint, as they say. I. When I work out, pretty much the same thing happens. Like when I go to the gym, my entire head is soaked and I'm like this. My hair is covered in sweat. I should probably wash that. But people are like, no. Yeah.
B
For whatever reason, I think the non helmet sweat is okay.
A
Helmet sweats tight.
B
Yeah. If I'm just working out with it open.
A
Because I promise you guys, I have never washed my helmet. Yeah.
B
That's what I'm saying.
A
And that is full of years of sweat.
D
If you're showering every time you take it off anyway.
A
Yeah, but the helmet still just stinks, dude. It's bad hockey gear. Smells real bad.
B
Sean, are you gonna grow it back out? Are you short hair guy now?
D
Oh, no, I. Can. I. I've estimated my budget. I gotta go another six months with this bad boy.
A
I am going to start paying for your haircut.
B
No, Dan, no, no, no.
D
I will. I will take that offer.
A
Like if you.
B
Hey, if. We'll treat him one to Nikki, though.
A
Yeah. I tried to send you to Nikki.
B
I.
D
Does Nikki do curly hair, though?
A
Yeah, yeah, he does. Nikki is a. Nikki is a savant.
D
Yeah. The best haircut I ever got was when I first came to San Diego. There's a place in Solana beach called Solana Barbers. And I walked in and there was this. No one else was in the place. It was just this older Asian gentleman sitting down. And I walked in and I didn't say anything to him. He just gestured to the seat. I sat down. He started cutting my hair. About five minutes in, I realized I have not set up word to this person. He has not said A word to me, and I was like, I guess we're just gonna see where. Where this goes. He gave me the best haircut I've ever had in my life. And for five years, I went there looking for him, and I'm not convinced he works there.
A
Yeah.
D
Because he has not been there any other time I've been there.
A
He was literally Willy Wonka showing up to the town square, just selling chocolates, trying to find himself a job at the very guy just walked into a barbershop and found an open chair and gave Sean a haircut and then walked out.
D
There was a sign on the wall that had the prices listed out and cash only. And I opened up my wallet and gave him the price that it said on the thing. And I said, is 20 right? And he said, yeah. And I gave him another $5. And that yet was the only thing I got. I said, thank you, and he nodded, and I walked out.
B
Did. Did you have an appointment or you.
C
Oh, no, I just walked in.
A
That guy did not work there, I assure you.
D
And he was. Well, he is sleeping on a great talent because he is the best barber I've ever.
B
Incredible.
A
Oh, all right. Well, it's perfect time to have Sean here before we jump into a game to close out this episode. We've got big news.
B
Breaking news, breaking news.
A
This trio right here. People have been clamoring for the next review. Next thing that we're going to do, and we have made the decision in about two weeks here. Less.
B
Yeah, not this Sunday, but next the
A
following Sunday, the boys, your favorite review trio for the first time ever, I believe. Sean, is that right for you?
D
For the Bachelor?
A
Yeah.
D
Yes. I think. No, my roommates would have it on in the background, so I vaguely know that's a reality TV show where people date and there's.
A
But you've never sat down and watched it. No, no. Neither have you.
B
Correct.
A
And neither have I. So we're going to pop our mutual cherries here, and we are diving in
B
to the Bachelor, and it's actually the Bachelorette.
A
Oh, I thought it was the Bachelor.
B
No, it was The Bachelorette season 22.
A
That makes me so much happier because we get to critique the behavior of a bunch of douchey men.
B
Yes, exactly.
A
That's great. We are gonna be diving into the Bachelorette on the 22nd episodes, will come out every Monday, and apparently this is a big one.
B
Yeah, she's from Mormon Wives or something. Like, she was a star of Mormon Wives or something.
A
Like. Okay, sweet.
B
And then now she's no longer a
A
lot of Utah talk to her.
B
A Mormon wife. And now she's the bachelorette.
A
And that's this. This one.
B
Yes. 22nd season, 22. March 22nd.
A
March 22nd. We're diving into the Bachelorette. It's going to be great. Make sure to tune in because we're going deep.
B
We're going deep.
A
It's going to be fantastic. All right, CP let's wrap things up with a nice game that you have for us.
B
This game is called Trivia Factorial. I give Dan 10 or I give him 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 trivia questions about one player. The first One is worth 10 points. 8, 6, 4, 2, 1. And when he guesses if he's wrong, he gets zero, and you can't guess again. So you have to be patient, be careful, unless you know for sure.
A
I hate this game.
B
I'm horrible at it. Dan's pretty good at it. I think I made this one kind of hard, though.
A
So we'll see.
D
Okay.
B
Ready?
D
Yeah.
B
For 10 points, Ray and Mike's Deli in my hometown named a sandwich after me after my dominant cup run.
A
Okay. Really? All I got there is dominant cup run.
B
And it would. That one would just be historic, if you happen to know that.
A
Yeah, I've been to Ray and Mike's Deli, and I have seen the blank.
B
And you're like, oh, my God.
A
Okay.
B
Okay, so move on to the next one for eight points. Speaking of cups, I have three on two different teams.
D
Ooh.
B
And I have one Olympic medal, which is pretty sick, for the 72nd overall pick of the 2005 draft.
C
Whoa.
A
That's a good hint.
B
I gave you a lot there. I gave you a lot there.
A
Yeah. 72nd pick in 2005. So that's going to be a third rounder.
B
Yep.
A
Three cups. This guy is probably out of the league or just barely hanging on because he's old.
B
He's old. He'd be old. He'd be old. Yeah, he'd be old.
A
Move on.
B
Move on. Okay, for six points, I led UMass to its first ever NCAA tournament appearance in 2007. That's where I kind of made it hard. Usually the sixth one is really easy or not easy, but usually the sixth one is kind of a giveaway. But that is a hard one. So three cups, one Olympic medal, third round pick in 2005 and went to UMass Hockey East. Boy, we love a hockeyast boy.
D
Oh.
B
What's crazy is there are some Ray and Mike's deli fans screaming, screaming right now they're like, I had it at 10, dude. I had the 10 pointer.
A
Okay. Here's the thing. I think I know it.
B
I'd be really impressed if you know it. I don't mean to scare you. Cause like, maybe you do, but I'd be really impressed if you know it. And I think four is in a giveaway, but I think you'll get it.
A
I think I know it, but I think I want to go to 4 for the purposes of the game so people can hear more clues.
B
Okay.
A
And so I don't get it wrong,
B
but I want you to write down, type it into the doc.
A
I'm going to text it to Sean right now.
B
Okay.
A
Because I think I know it and I think the. I think the second clue actually. I mean that one gave me a lot.
D
Yep.
B
Three cups on two different teams.
A
Okay.
B
Do you text him?
A
I did. Okay.
B
For four points, I'm a two time Vezna nominee.
A
Yeah. Fucking Jonathan Quick.
B
Yeah. Though I've never won it. But I do have a Con Smythe for my. For my first of three cups in the early 2010 for two points. I played prep school hockey at Avon olfons. And for one point in 2024, I passed Ryan Miller as the winningest U.S. goalie ever.
A
Come on, Quickie.
B
Johnny Quick.
A
Where's his hometown?
B
Hamden, Connecticut.
A
Connecticut.
B
Yeah. Yeah. Ray and Mike's Deli.
A
We gotta go to Ray and Mike's.
B
Yeah, it's called the Quick Witch.
A
That's great. Do you know what's on it?
B
Ooh, great question. Ray and Mike's Deli. The Quick. It was after 2012 when he won Conn Smythe in what many consider the greatest statistical goalie performance in playoffs of all time.
A
Shit.
B
And they changed it to the quick witch.
A
UMass was where I was like, He's a UMass guy.
B
I couldn't believe that you knew that. Oh, my God.
A
Tell me about the Quick. Tell me about the Quick Witch.
B
Okay, boys. Ray and Mike's Deli. They have featured items. Steak and cheese. Our famous made to order steak and cheese with onion, choice of onions, peppers and mushrooms. The Mr. Nice Guy Chicken cutlet with cheddar, avocado, bacon, ranch chipotle mayo. The Caesar wrap explanatory. The sleeping giant steak and pastrami with Swiss cheese. Stormy garlic mayo.
A
Why are you calling me all the.
B
Cause you need to understand this place. The Buffalo Philly. You can figure that out. The nightmare pastrami with pepper jack cheese, grilled onions, peppers, tomato and spicy mustard.
A
That sounds Fantastic. Why is that called the Nightmare?
B
I don't know. The bobcat wrap, grilled chicken with mozzarella pesto, tomato, herbs, panini, pressed. The Mac Daddy barbecue pork cheddar, Mac and cheese and bacon. And then the Quick Witch, a world famous steak and cheese with Mac and cheese inside.
A
That is diabolical. It's huge.
B
Look at that. Sean, can you get that steak and cheese with Mac and cheese inside?
D
No.
A
What's so funny is you got to imagine that Quickie made it like that was what he wanted.
B
The Quick Witch. That's incredible.
A
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Podcast: Empty Netters
Episode: "Charlie McAvoy Will Finish The Year With No Teeth" (Feat. Charlie McAvoy)
Date: March 12, 2026
Host: Dan Powers, Chris Johnson, Sean Buffini (Almost Friday Media)
This episode of the Empty Netters Podcast features hockey talk with the usual crew, spirited debates about hygiene and haircuts, strong takes on NHL playoff races, and a wide-ranging, candid interview with freshly-minted Olympic gold medalist Charlie McAvoy. The hosts deliver their signature chemistry, banter, and humor while analyzing current NHL news, breaking down recent deals, and delving deeply into the camaraderie and legendary moments of Team USA’s Olympic gold campaign.
| Segment | Timestamp | |-----------------------------------|-------------| | Hygiene & Haircuts Banter | 00:03–09:30 | | Utah Mammoth/Schmaltz Deal | 08:03–10:26 | | Panthers/Marchand Injury Saga | 10:38–14:17 | | Charlie McAvoy Teeth Saga | 14:17–18:10 | | Protecting Goalies/Ejections | 18:10–21:14 | | Pacific Standings Playoff Chaos | 21:14–25:45 | | Playoff Team Eliminations | 25:56–28:47 | | Charlie McAvoy Interview (Start) | 29:49–56:53 | | Professors' Picks & Betting | 60:28–74:35 | | Haircut & Personal Care Riffs | 75:36–91:32 | | Bachelorette Review Announcement | 91:32–93:04 | | Closing Game & Wrap-up | 93:11–END |
On towel hygiene:
“If someone in my life hadn't taken a towel and put it in the bin, I would still be using the first towel I ever showered with.” – Chris (04:42)
On the Utah Mammoth Deal & Millennials:
“…Seeing a 30-year-old get an eight-year deal… we need more millennials getting eight year deals!” – Dan (09:06)
Charlie McAvoy on getting hit in the face… repeatedly:
“Honestly, right away, I was like, I actually can't believe this. Like, I was so defeated.” – Charlie (30:42)
Charlie McAvoy (Olympic Gold): “It was like one big reunion that happened to be at the Olympics and we happened to win the gold medal.” (46:51)
On haircuts in “this economy”: “In this economy, I can only really afford to get my hair cut, like, two times a year.” – Sean (78:15)
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