Firing Season! Vegas Dumps Cassidy And The Leafs Sack Treliving

Summary

Empty Netters Podcast

Episode: Firing Season! Vegas Dumps Cassidy And The Leafs Sack Treliving

Date: March 31, 2026

Hosts: Dan Powers, Sean Buffini, Chris Powers

Episode Overview

This episode opens at a crucial time in the NHL season, with the wild-card race heating up and two shocking management firings: Bruce Cassidy by the Vegas Golden Knights and Brad Treliving by the Toronto Maple Leafs. The hosts—brothers Dan and Chris Powers, joined by Sean Buffini—dive into the fallout and implications of these leadership changes, using their sharp, conversational style brimming with hockey insights and irreverent humor. They explore what’s next for Vegas with John Tortorella stepping in, debate Toronto’s ongoing dysfunction, and provide their signature rundown of the electrifying wild-card races, plus detours into college hockey and a spirited Harry Potter casting debate.

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Key Discussions & Insights

1. Vegas Fires Bruce Cassidy, Installs John Tortorella as Interim Head Coach

(Discussion Start: 02:13)

• With only eight games left in the regular season and Vegas still in a playoff spot, Bruce Cassidy is fired. The hosts are stunned ("shocking move. Shocking move.") but draw historical parallels—specifically, to the 2000 New Jersey Devils firing their coach eight games before the playoffs and winning the Cup under Larry Robinson. (03:23)
• Tortorella’s appointment is discussed as a pure caretaker role, with his future in Vegas uncertain regardless of results.
  • "He is very much a caretaker head coach... does not mean he's gonna be the coach next season" — Dan (02:29)
  • "This is cup, this is cup city. Just saying." — Sean (04:09)
• They refute the myth that Tortorella is a universally hated coach, citing positive relationships with players like Jack Eichel and PLD.
  • "This narrative that he's one of the most hated coaches in the league is not true." — Dan (05:06)
  • "It’s a little bit of the Belichick thing... in the media he’s a robot, but players say he’s funny and chill." — Sean (05:35)
• Vegas’ team strengths and weaknesses are reviewed—especially the goaltending issues.
  • "Their goaltending has been really, really tough all season long and there does not seem to be a savior coming." — Dan (09:00)
• Expectations: the move could give Vegas a short-term boost, but questions remain about playoff viability, especially with likely first-round matchup against Edmonton.

Notable Quote∶

"Vegas...they just do what they got to do. They are the biggest pull the trigger team in the league. They should change their name to the Vegas Gunslingers because they just let it rip and I respect it."
— Dan Powers (08:31)

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2. Brad Treliving Out as Maple Leafs GM: "Clean House" Era Starts

(Discussion Start: 12:43)

• News breaks during recording: Brad Treliving, Toronto’s GM, is fired after the Leafs fail to make the playoffs.
• Immediate reactions frame it as overdue: firing was inevitable after underperformance, especially following Mitch Marner’s departure.
  • "You had to see this coming. Big changes need to happen. Missing playoffs with this group instigate lunacy." — Dan (12:54)
• The hosts speculate that a coaching change and major roster moves (even Austin Matthews being traded) could follow.
  • "If I was going to start a new era of Leafs hockey without Auston Matthews... I certainly wouldn't want my dead man walking GM making that deal." — Sean (13:47)
  • "Line them up and knock them down. Tree living's gone, Berube's gone and players are about to be gone." — Dan (13:33)
• Dan argues that missing the playoffs could be positive: "I said...this is good for the Toronto Maple Leafs. This is going to instigate real change." (15:51)

Notable Quote:

"Missing playoffs with this group instigate lunacy."
— Dan Powers (13:11)

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3. NHL Wild Card Race Rundown: East & West Chaos

(East: 17:38; West: 26:10)

• Lightning round through recent results, with Dan and Sean reacting in rapid-fire.
  • E.g. "Habs beat the Blue Jackets." — Sean, Dan: "Great for the Habs." (17:51)
• Eastern Conference:
  • Teams in the race: Islanders, Penguins, Bruins, Blue Jackets, Senators, Wings, Flyers
  • Philadelphia Flyers, written off earlier, are heating up (8-1-1 in last 10). Detroit has collapsed again in March, a recurring theme.
    • "Unacceptable for me to sit here and say the Philadelphia Flyers have no business being in this conversation." — Dan (22:15)
  • Dan: "Detroit Red Wings have nine games left. If you want to make it into the playoffs, you have to win seven of those nine." (23:29)
• Western Conference:
  • Pacific is a cluster, with no team truly scary outside Dallas/Colorado. Anaheim’s grip on first is loose.
  • Kings, once left for dead, now control their destiny.
    • "You, if the King... win the games left, you win." — Sean (30:38)
  • Playoff teams are mostly sub-par, ripe for upset: "You're all 500 hockey teams... sneaking into the playoffs to get fist fucked by the Colorado Avalanche is like, crazy." — Dan (29:18)

Notable Quotes

• "It is an absolute disaster... How bad they are in March three years in a row now." — Dan, on Detroit (22:43)
• "The Kings currently control their destiny... That is so awesome." — Sean (30:25)

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4. Frozen Four & College Hockey Update

(Discussion Start: 33:13)

• ESPN coverage griped about; North Dakota dominates—haven’t allowed a goal.
• Michigan State’s heartbreak; Denver rolling; Michigan squeezed through vs Duluth (Dan’s team).
  • "[Denver] are so well coached. They are so good. They've been here. It's just scary." — Dan (39:02)
• Player movement: Porter Martone to Flyers; hosts mull NHL teams poaching NCAA talent for playoff pushes.

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5. NHL Oddities: Troy Terry’s “No-Hit” Record

(Discussion Start: 39:30)

• Troy Terry becomes the first in NHL history to log 50 games in a season without a single hit.
  • "We are not hit shaming Troy here... but what I want to know is how did you do that?" — Dan (40:07)
  • "I don't know how you do that... how you play 52 NHL games on a top line and avoid contacting other players." — Dan (43:23)
  • "I want Troy to hit us up... I wonder if this stat came out and he's like, 'Come on, I’ve hit someone.'" — Dan (41:59)
• Lively debate—Sean jokes maybe Troy is actually the “most controlled and poised skater in the NHL.” (41:46)
• Suggest Troy should deliberately go for a hit to break the streak, riff about the crowd’s response.

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6. [Bonus] Harry Potter Movie Casting Draft

(Section Start: 46:07; Major entries at: 51:01-81:10)

• In a long, impassioned segment, the guys snake-draft their 5 favorite Harry Potter film casting decisions, balancing faithfulness to the book and performance.
  • Highlights include: Rupert Grint as Ron, Imelda Staunton as Umbridge, Alan Rickman as Snape, Ralph Fiennes as Voldemort, Helena Bonham Carter as Bellatrix, Robbie Coltrane as Hagrid, and more.
• Animated defense and critique, with deep dives into performances and fun trivia.
  • "Lord of the Rings, incredible love, Lord of the Rings. But those movies...get all of this love. How did John Williams not win a single Oscar for the Harry Potter scores?" — Dan (47:37)
  • "The performance is perfect. The way she looks is perfect. The teeth." — Dan on Bellatrix/Helena Bonham Carter (63:39)
• Spirals into social analysis (on race-swapped casting in HBO’s new reboot), book-to-movie differences, and love of the franchise’s universe.

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7. Beer League Hotline: “He Got a Two-Game Sussy for ‘Tummy Sticks’”

(Discussion Start: 90:47)

• Listener story: Player gets suspended ("sussy") after a ref mishears "tummy sticks" chirp as "you've had cum in your ass all night."
  • The hosts dissect whether this could really be misheard, and the absurdity of grassroots league ref drama.
  • "I hate it when refs take it upon themselves to do shit like this." — Dan (92:10)
  • "You gotta be careful...this guy needs a sussy!" — Sean (95:21)
• Advice: “You have to fight this. I don’t think you’ll ever win.”

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8. Blind Ranking: John Tortorella’s Alternate Careers

(Discussion Start: 95:51)

• The hosts rank alternative jobs (“wedding planner,” “TSA agent,” “park ranger,” etc.) for Torts, riffing on his personality.
  • Dan: "There’d be no lollygagging when it comes to picking cake flavors...Torts would come out with a broom and sweep you off the stage if your speech was going long." (100:50)
  • Wedding planner wins: “This is a perfect one.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Vegas’ Daring Organizational Culture:
  "They are the biggest pull the trigger team in the league. They should change their name to the Vegas Gunslingers." (08:31)
• On Tortorella’s Reputation:
  "This narrative that he's one of the most hated coaches in the league is not true." (05:06)
• On Detroit’s Struggles:
  "Detroit Red Wings have nine games left. If you want to make it into the playoffs, you have to win seven of those nine..." (23:29)
• On Troy Terry’s No-Hit Record:
  "I don't know how you play 52 NHL games again on a top line…and avoid laying a check." (43:23)
• On Harry Potter Casting:
  "If that isn't exactly what JK was picturing then I don't know who she was because that is fucking perfect." — Sean, on Filch (75:44)

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Important Timestamps

• 02:13 – Discussion of Vegas firing Cassidy, hiring Tortorella
• 03:23 – Devils 2000 coaching parallel
• 05:06 – Myth-busting Tortorella’s reputation
• 12:43 – Breaking news: Brad Treliving fired in Toronto
• 17:38 & 26:10 – NHL wild card race, east and west
• 33:13 – College hockey & Frozen Four update
• 39:30 – Troy Terry’s “no-hit” stat discussion
• 46:07 – Harry Potter casting snake draft
• 90:47 – Beer League Hotline: The ‘tummy sticks’ incident
• 95:51 – Blind ranking: John Tortorella’s alternate jobs

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Style & Tone

• Banter is casual and irreverent, with plenty of inside jokes, personal anecdotes, chirps, and occasional profanity.
• The hosts balance sharp, knowledgeable hockey analysis with off-the-rails tangents (notably the Harry Potter segment) but always return to the puck.
• Direct speaker attribution and timestamps make it easy to follow.

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This episode is perfect for listeners looking to catch up on the seismic coaching/front-office shifts in the NHL, enjoy razor-sharp playoff race analysis, and revel in the colorful personalities and offbeat asides that set Empty Netters apart.

Transcript

[Dan Powers]

Welcome to the Empty Netters podcast.

[Sean Buffini]

Can you believe what this has become? There was a full 48 hours where

[Chris Powers]

I felt like I was like literally Superman.

[Dan Powers]

Jumbo loves playing Fortnite.

[Chris Powers]

So does he. He gets on the sticks.

[Dan Powers]

Did TR show you the sauna cycle or was that already.

[Sean Buffini]

No, I invented that. Almost a year now that I haven't taken a body check.

[Dan Powers]

That's kind of nice. So we are back. We are horned up and we are going deep.

[Chris Powers]

Finished tonight with some chicken fingers and a few Guinnesses. Ran into you guys. And that's where this pod came to life.

[Dan Powers]

Ice is ready. And we're welcome back with another episode of the Empty Netters podcast, brought to you by BetMGM. I am your host, Dan Powers. Over here on the sticks, our favorite Irish traveler, Sean Buffini. Welcome to the show.

[Chris Powers]

Thank you very much. You know, in Ireland, calling someone a traveler is like calling them a gypsy.

[Dan Powers]

Yes.

[Sean Buffini]

A compliment.

[Dan Powers]

I did know that. And then also, are you aware of. I think it's Irish traveler. What that means here?

[Chris Powers]

What does that mean here?

[Dan Powers]

It's like, it's what happened with biz. It's like there are people who. It's really awful and derogatory towards the Irish, but it's people who, like, start fraudulent businesses and rip off clients and steal their money and then they just travel to a new city and, like, the general area and just do it all over.

[Chris Powers]

Just being Irish in America, that's just what we do.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah, just drop the travel right off that dude.

[Dan Powers]

You're just a traveler. And then over here, this guy knows the trick of getting out of jury duty, but he didn't give the trick to me, therefore, he is a rat.

[Sean Buffini]

Didn't give it well enough. Chris Powers, as always. Damn, dude.

[Dan Powers]

I know. We don't need to waste any time on the fact that I got PP whacked and I tried to get out of it.

[Sean Buffini]

We'll get whacked again now.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah, I just got rescheduled. They went, we'll see you here in a couple weeks.

[Sean Buffini]

Dangerous game, though, friendo, that you have to push it all the way to bust and then go, psych. I can't do it. And then they're like, okay, you're out and you don't have to reschedule.

[Dan Powers]

I know. It's very dangerous game. Maybe I'll just get on a trial, be cool. I'll be a foreman. You'll sequester me. Maybe that.

[Sean Buffini]

Say some more words.

[Dan Powers]

Maybe I'll do that.

[Sean Buffini]

Hung jury. Objection.

[Dan Powers]

Erroneous.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah,

[Dan Powers]

well, We've got a great episode today. Lots of crazy stuff happened. The wild card race continues to surge on shocking firing of Bruce Cassidy. We've got some fun, not ice with Sean. And we've got beer league hotline as always. Let's jump on into it. Starting off with Cassidy.

[Sean Buffini]

Butch Cassidy fired.

[Dan Powers]

Dead dude. There's eight games left, so Bruce Cassidy fired by the Vegas Golden Knights. They're in a firmly in a playoff spot. Maybe not firmly, but they're in a playoff spot. They have been a top team in the abysmal pacific all season long, but apparently feels like the GM the team. They have hit their wits end. They are not seeing eye to eye anymore and Cassidy has been gassed. John Tortorella torts back in the game, signs a deal to coach for the remaining eight games and through playoffs and that's it. That doesn't mean he's not going to be the coach next season, but it also doesn't mean he has a contract to be the coach next season. So he is very much a caretaker head coach for the rest of the season into playoffs. It is a shocking move. Shocking move. But I do want to say this little full fun tidbit that I.

[Sean Buffini]

It's actually insane little fun tidbit that

[Dan Powers]

your boy Danny found. In 2000, the New Jersey Devils were in first place in the Eastern Conference. Their head coach, Robbie Fatoric, friend of dad, shout out. Robbie gassed, fired after a little slump with how many? Eight games in the season. Lou lamarillo makes the call, gases him. Larry Robinson gets promoted to be the head coach and what happens?

[Sean Buffini]

Dude, Cup.

[Dan Powers]

They won the cup.

[Sean Buffini]

You know what, I remember this because this came up in the Scotty Gomez interview. I was like, why do I know this story? And then I was like, oh yeah, we were talking about it with Gomer.

[Dan Powers]

It is insane that it was eight games left. Yeah, eight games left. Top team in the East. Obviously Vegas isn't top team in the west, but like a playoff team. Eight games left, coach fired.

[Sean Buffini]

So this is cup, this is cup city. Just saying, here's what I find interesting. So I had a lot of people hitting me up like torts and I

[Dan Powers]

was like, dude, very, very nutty.

[Sean Buffini]

But here is what I think. Dan Torts. First of all, there's not a lot of guys unless you're promoting from within that would take this job right now. Yeah, like Debo. Well, deboer was already in Vegas so he wouldn't do this.

[Dan Powers]

But.

[Sean Buffini]

But like a DeBoer type who's sitting in the wings Wouldn't take this job, I don't think. Cause he'd go, why don't I just wait a week? And then I have the whole plethora of options, you know, whatever. So you were kind of like, what did you expect? What were you really gonna get? Yeah. Also, very importantly, Torts was an assistant coach at the Olympics. And Eichel said very nice things about him many times. Loved having him there, loved being a part of it.

[Dan Powers]

I think that there's a false narrative amongst the fucking fans of the NHL that Torts is like, this hated guy.

[Sean Buffini]

Agree.

[Dan Powers]

Yes. He is an intense personality and he gets loud. And there are certainly some dudes who are on record being like, I did not get along with him. Sure. But this narrative that he's one of the most hated coaches in the league is not true.

[Sean Buffini]

Dude. Remember PLD when he was like, you know, I had my tenure with Blue Jackets? Everyone thinks we hate each other. Torts and I speak on the phone every week and he's my biggest fan. And we're always hyping each other up like, you are 100% right. That it goes unnoticed.

[Chris Powers]

Yeah.

[Sean Buffini]

It's a little bit of the Belichick thing where everyone sees him into the media and they say he's a robot. And then you talk to any of the players and they say he's actually pretty funny and chill. Totally agree. So I am kind of into it. I think this. Cause Torts basically. Maybe you said this, and I thought he said it, but he was basically like, I'm just going to coach Philly or be done. And then he was done. And I was like, okay, no worries. And now he's back, and I just think this would be fun. Electric. If he has one cup. I also think people think Torts has a million cups. He has one cup a billion years ago.

[Dan Powers]

Well, I mean, he has a cup. He has two Jack Adams, and he has a gold medal.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

So, like, I've got news for you. He's a great coach. Oh. Oh.

[Sean Buffini]

I didn't mean.

[Dan Powers]

No, you're a fucking piece of shit, dude. You're. You're part of the problem here. Euro Jiro. Another one of these idiots jumping on the bandwagon saying, torch can't coach.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah. God can't coach. Shit. I'm saying, how nuts would it be if he gets his second cup?

[Dan Powers]

It'd be incredible.

[Sean Buffini]

A billion years later on an eight day, eight game left hire with the Vegas Golden Knights.

[Dan Powers]

It'd be unbelievable. I don't. I think this is certainly just A caretaker role. I don't think he's going to be the coach of this. I think even if they win the Cup, I don't think he's going to be the coach next.

[Sean Buffini]

I might be right.

[Dan Powers]

I genuinely think he's like, yeah, no, I'll come in and take care of business to end it out. But if they win the cup, that is to me the only scenario where I could see him being the coach long term in Vegas. I think this is very much a caretaker thing. Through the playoffs, we'll see what happens. But. But the. I think the big thing for me is. Is this crazy? Yes. Am I shocked by this? Not at all.

[Sean Buffini]

Okay, elaborate on that.

[Dan Powers]

I really like, really, really like Bruce Cassidy. I think he's a great dude. Every interaction we've ever had with him is awesome. I think he's a very good coach. He has the numbers to prove it. He has an unbelievable 178, 99 and 43 in four seasons with golden Knights. Winning a Stanley cup in his first season. That is a great tenure as a Golden Knights. Never missed the playoffs. Always a very good top team. They've had some very upsetting playoff losses, obviously. Two years ago, first round. That was awful. Last year, embarrassed by Edmonton. That was awful. It is. It is not unusual that Cassidy eventually wears thins on players.

[Sean Buffini]

Yep.

[Dan Powers]

It's his style. That's not an insult. It's not something people don't know. It happened in Boston and tons of the guy in Boston, guys in Boston talk about it and they're like, yeah, he just like, you know, he rubs guys the wrong way and it doesn't. It's hard for that to last forever

[Sean Buffini]

if you're not winning.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah, it's hard for that to last. And here you are in the shittiest division in the league. You were at the top of the division and you have just been slipping and slipping and slipping and you're on a really bad skid here. And you are in this window with a team that sells the farm to win. And if you're selling the farm to win, you need to win in said window.

[Sean Buffini]

So if you're Marner and you just got Rasmus Anderson and I'm like.

[Dan Powers]

And you're terrible.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

So I am not shocked by this. I think. And frankly, I always give Vegas credit for fucking they, man. They just do what they got to do. They are the biggest pull the trigger team in the league. They should change their name to the Vegas Gunslingers because they just let it rip and I respect it. So again, is this a wild move? Yeah, for sure. But I don't find it shocking.

[Sean Buffini]

Do you think the. What do you think the results are going to be?

[Dan Powers]

I think I really, really like this Vegas team in that, like, I love. I think Eichel is one of the best players in the league. I think Anderson and Shea, Theodore and Hannifin on that backline is unbelievable. I think Scora Fev is great, obviously. Mitch Marner is great. Hurdle Stone when he's healthy. Go on, go on, go on. They're a great team. I think their goaltending has been really, really tough all season long and there does not seem to be a savior coming. And I think Torch is going to fire up the room. Absolutely. I feel like we're already hearing and seeing that that's happening. I think that this is going to be a nice move going into the final eight games of the season and into the playoffs. But I just. I'm sorry. I look at this Pacific Division and this Vegas team and I'm like, are they going to be. Are they even going to beat Edmonton?

[Sean Buffini]

Well, yeah, I wouldn't even say. I would say that's the trending first round matchup. So it's not like we'll ease into the playoffs here. I'm like, here you go. Here are the Oilers.

[Dan Powers]

So I think anything could happen. I mean, at the beginning of the year, there were definitely a top team, considered to be a top team by most of us.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

But they're a far cry from Colorado and Dallas in my opinion. Oh, my God, even Minnesota. So I'm kind of like, if they win a first round under Torts, I think they're like, fuck, yeah.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

I think. I don't think I would pick Vegas to like, win the cup right now.

[Sean Buffini]

Me neither.

[Dan Powers]

I'm also. It's like, it's the University of Denver. I'm never going to count Vegas out, ever. Especially when you have a guy like Jack Eichel. But I. Yeah, I don't know. I'm not. I don't think the cavalry is coming.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah, I think they play this weekend, which would be a good game. Vegas, Edmonton, I mean, and right now I probably wouldn't pick them to get out of that series. I'd probably pick the Oilers. But I do think this is. This will be really interesting. This will be the fun part of this. This is just crazy enough to work. Like Torts could come in and just A, be the motivator that he is, but B, just kind of give the team a new. He's not going to rewrite the playbook. Not that they're really plays plays in hockey, but he could just give them a new enough approach, a new enough system that teams haven't had any tape on it that all of a sudden they're just a reinvigorated Vegas where I'd be like, oh, I haven't seen that forecheck. I haven't seen that breakout. And I'm like. And then you get you, maybe you sneak a few rounds, maybe you ring a few rounds out of this team, get them going a little bit.

[Dan Powers]

I, I think this what the Vegas success is 100% what goes on in goaltending.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

If Aiden Hill becomes the Aiden Hill that won a Stanley cup, they can go to the Cup.

[Sean Buffini]

Yep.

[Dan Powers]

If not, then they will. They will run into trouble.

[Sean Buffini]

Their goal. Can I redo their goalies numbers? Yes. Ahsoka Tano, 25, 34 games. Hill 25. Carter Hart, 12. Lynnbaum 8. Ahsoka Tano, 89325.

[Dan Powers]

Can you see the fucking real name? So people have a clue what you're talking about.

[Sean Buffini]

Akir schmidt.

[Dan Powers]

Thanks.

[Sean Buffini]

Aiden Hill, 866310. Carter Hart, 871328.

[Dan Powers]

It's not good. And I know Aiden Hill's good.

[Sean Buffini]

I know Akira Schmid is good. I know Carter Hart was once very good.

[Dan Powers]

No, you don't.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah, we know Carter Hart was once good.

[Dan Powers]

I know Carter Hart was once promising.

[Sean Buffini]

I think he was once good.

[Dan Powers]

I think that, I think that's. I think he was once promising. And I think if you're going into these playoffs relying on Carter Hart.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah, you got bigger problems.

[Dan Powers]

You are dead.

[Sean Buffini]

You got bigger problems.

[Dan Powers]

So I think you're completely relying on Aiden Hill here. So let's see what happens. But again, wild move. I love the Larry Robinson connection. That would be insane. I love that Torts is behind the bench. I loved what he had to say. He said he called Butch immediately and thanked him for the position Vegas is in, which is such a class move. And it sounds like the boys are fired up. So let's see what this does to Vegas. Could be very cool. Breaking news as we're recording.

[Sean Buffini]

Whoa.

[Dan Powers]

Out of Toronto, Brad Tree living has been relieved of his duties as GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs. You had to see this coming.

[Sean Buffini]

Yep.

[Dan Powers]

Absolutely insane that Toronto has missed playoffs. And it's brutal that it's immediately on the heels of the year where Mitch Marner leaves. But I've been saying from the beginning as they started to struggle, this is going to Be good for the Toronto

[Sean Buffini]

Maple Leafs because of the clean house that's going to be coming.

[Dan Powers]

I think this is. This is the first shoe to drop in. If they want winning to happen in Toronto, big changes need to happen. Missing playoffs with this group instigate lunacy.

[Sean Buffini]

Yep. Is there anything to you where. And we never have people who lose their jobs, but I think they could use a coaching change.

[Dan Powers]

Oh, buddy.

[Chris Powers]

Yep.

[Dan Powers]

Fucking line them up and knock him down. Tree living's gone. Berube's gone and players are about to be gone.

[Sean Buffini]

And. And Dan, not to get too fucking tinfoil hat rumor boys, but do it the.

[Dan Powers]

Why not do it the.

[Sean Buffini]

If I was going to start a new era of Leafs hockey without Auston Matthews, okay. I certainly wouldn't want to my dead man walking GM making that deal. You know, I wouldn't go, hey, trade Austin.

[Dan Powers]

It is a little tough. It is a little tough to bring in a new GM and go. Your first order of business, sir.

[Sean Buffini]

Yep.

[Dan Powers]

Trade Austin.

[Sean Buffini]

But I think you go if do you want to shape the Leafs? Get what you like. Do it.

[Dan Powers]

Yes.

[Sean Buffini]

And you go, okay, I agree. You're. Now you're like holding it up.

[Dan Powers]

If there's anyone to have a long enough leash to do it, it's someone

[Sean Buffini]

who got hired yesterday who's done nothing.

[Dan Powers]

It's like you. And. And if you get brought in, in ownership and the president and everyone is like, this is what you have to do.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

Then you're like, okay, I'll take. No one can blame me for this.

[Sean Buffini]

I'll take the bet.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah.

[Sean Buffini]

I've really imagined fucking trading Matthews and then getting fired.

[Dan Powers]

I think that would be awesome.

[Sean Buffini]

Holy shit.

[Dan Powers]

I think it would be. And I think it'd be awesome too, if they told him that it was going to happen. If they went like this, hey, trade Austin and then we're going to fire you the next day. We're going to fire you anyway.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

But just fucking trade off.

[Sean Buffini]

Just do it.

[Dan Powers]

I think that'd be sick.

[Sean Buffini]

I would love that if I'll.

[Dan Powers]

I would be like this. Oh, you're telling me. I can fucking let it rip.

[Chris Powers]

Yep.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah. Big change coming. And you're right. This is for the best. Weird.

[Dan Powers]

And you know what I love about it? You're starting from the top.

[Sean Buffini]

Yes, Stan. Because usually it's the let's. Let's roll the head coach coaches.

[Dan Powers]

So how unceremonious would it feel? I mean, it might come within days here, but if they went Brew Bass fired, you just kind of go like this.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah, I mean, I know.

[Dan Powers]

Okay.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

But they're like, tree living's gone. And he has not been there that long. So they're like, tree living.

[Sean Buffini]

Look up.

[Dan Powers]

When did he get that job?

[Sean Buffini]

I think.

[Dan Powers]

I think tree living has had this job for two. Two years. Three years. He went.

[Sean Buffini]

Right, right.

[Dan Powers]

It was the Dubas replacement.

[Sean Buffini]

Right, right. Exactly. God damn.

[Dan Powers]

So you go, we're dead in the gm. Coaches up next, captains after that.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah. Boom.

[Dan Powers]

Assistant captain after that.

[Sean Buffini]

I think this could be just what they needed.

[Dan Powers]

Again, I said the second it became realistic that they would miss playoffs, I said, this is good for the Toronto Maple Leafs. This is going to instigate real change. And we have seen a big change already.

[Sean Buffini]

They lost in the first round in his first season, second round last year, which was. I thought was harsh because they give the Panthers a good series and then they missed the playoffs for the first time in a decade in year three.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah.

[Sean Buffini]

Good day.

[Dan Powers]

Bang.

[Sean Buffini]

Yep. That's actually great.

[Dan Powers]

Line them up.

[Sean Buffini]

That's actually great that they went. That they did this.

[Dan Powers]

Yes. Line them up.

[Sean Buffini]

Knock them down for him. That sucks for him. But this is actually. This is a big. This is a statement.

[Dan Powers]

It would have been really cool if they let him trade Austin, though.

[Sean Buffini]

Yes, you go. Would have been fucking statement.

[Dan Powers]

You go, Mitch Marner leaves under your watch, you miss playoffs, then you traded Austin Matthews and then they cut your head off. Oh, incredible.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

All right, let's take an AD break and we'll be back.

[Sean Buffini]

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[Dan Powers]

The wild card race continues to be absolutely insane.

[Sean Buffini]

I am going to give you. We dropped an episode on Thursday. A lot of games have been played. I'm going to read results to you. And then you go like this. You react. This is word association.

[Dan Powers]

Okay?

[Sean Buffini]

On Thursday, this was Thursday night games.

[Dan Powers]

It's gonna be hard.

[Sean Buffini]

The Habs beat the Blue Jackets. You can give me more than one word.

[Dan Powers]

Great for the Haps.

[Sean Buffini]

Pens beat the Sens.

[Dan Powers]

Tough for the Sens.

[Sean Buffini]

Spunk beat the Bolts.

[Dan Powers]

Nothing.

[Sean Buffini]

Burger. Spunk are in it. Isles beat the Stars.

[Dan Powers]

Huge win for the Aisles.

[Sean Buffini]

Flyers beat the Hawks.

[Dan Powers]

Nothing. Burger.

[Sean Buffini]

Sharks lost to the Blues.

[Dan Powers]

Sharks are dead.

[Sean Buffini]

Puke. Puke city. Preds lost to the Devils.

[Dan Powers]

Huge for the Los Angeles Kings. Yes.

[Sean Buffini]

Jets lost to the avs. Nothing. You fucking were happy. Mammoth lost to the Caps. Careful.

[Dan Powers]

That. No, nothing.

[Sean Buffini]

Not you. Them. Careful.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah, nothing. Burgers, though, still.

[Sean Buffini]

Kings beat the Canucks.

[Dan Powers]

Huge win. Nesting win.

[Sean Buffini]

Friday, the Wings beat the Sabers.

[Dan Powers]

Monster.

[Sean Buffini]

Monster.

[Dan Powers]

Absolutely monster.

[Sean Buffini]

Holy shit. Saturday, the Sens lost to the Bolts.

[Dan Powers]

Tough.

[Sean Buffini]

The Isles beat the Panthers.

[Dan Powers]

Necessary.

[Sean Buffini]

Necessary. And I put this down here, but we're going to talk about it right here. Because you moved it up, which is correct. Matthew. Chuckle.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah, it was disgusting.

[Sean Buffini]

Gross. Yeah, gross.

[Dan Powers]

He's playing great.

[Sean Buffini]

So insane. When I'm just like, oh, yeah, you're

[Dan Powers]

one of the best players.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah. Oh, my God. You Bruins beat the Wild.

[Dan Powers]

Huge win.

[Sean Buffini]

Huge win. Pens lost to the Stars.

[Dan Powers]

Pens, be careful.

[Sean Buffini]

Be very careful.

[Dan Powers]

Getting very leaky.

[Sean Buffini]

And they had. Sid was hurt again. He had 12 shots.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah. Very, very leaky.

[Sean Buffini]

Sharks beat the Blue Jackets.

[Dan Powers]

The Blue Jackets don't fuck around.

[Sean Buffini]

The Spunk lost to the Sabers.

[Dan Powers]

Not shocking.

[Sean Buffini]

The Preds lost to the Habs.

[Dan Powers]

Huge for the Los Angeles Kings.

[Sean Buffini]

Yes. The jets beat the avs.

[Dan Powers]

Go away, Jets. Just go. Who do you think you are?

[Sean Buffini]

The Flyers beat the Wings.

[Dan Powers]

So unacceptable.

[Sean Buffini]

Gargantuan.

[Dan Powers]

Detroit.

[Sean Buffini]

Gargantuan.

[Dan Powers]

So unacceptable.

[Sean Buffini]

Detroit Mammoth beat the Kings.

[Dan Powers]

Absolute dick stomping. I was at the game. It was really bad. Really bad. But the Mammoth looked fantastic.

[Sean Buffini]

Sunday Preds lost to the Bolts.

[Dan Powers]

Huge for the Los Angeles Kings. Pred's fucking freed are completely fucking up

[Sean Buffini]

Habs beat the Canes.

[Dan Powers]

Monumental for the Habs.

[Sean Buffini]

Bruins beat the Blue Jackets after being down three nothing.

[Dan Powers]

Fat cock performance. Heavy, heavy, heavy Hammer. Heavy Hammer.

[Sean Buffini]

Blue Jackets. Fucking crazy. And then Flyers beat the Stars.

[Dan Powers]

What do you think you're doing, Philadelphia? Because here's the deal. Is that it?

[Sean Buffini]

That's it. Now I have Philadelphia.

[Dan Powers]

Flyers are fully in it.

[Sean Buffini]

Oh, my God.

[Dan Powers]

They're fully in it. And what's crazy is, like, Washington's not even out.

[Sean Buffini]

I know. I put them back in Washington. Let me give you this here, the vital standings updates. There's also battles like Buffalo and Tampa are battling. But like, these are the important battles.

[Dan Powers]

No, we're only talking about wild.

[Sean Buffini]

Exactly.

[Dan Powers]

Like Buffalo and Tampa will not be mentioned ever again.

[Sean Buffini]

The Habs are third in the Atlantic. 73 played, 94 points. Yeah, the Aisles are second in the. In the Met, 74 played, 89 points. Pens are third, 73 played, 88. So game in hand.

[Dan Powers]

Could one win, they flop.

[Sean Buffini]

Yep. And they're playing. Those teams are playing right now. What's the score? Has anyone scored yet?

[Dan Powers]

Yeah, we're recording late today. So there are games on.

[Sean Buffini]

Oh, my God. It's three. Three in the second.

[Dan Powers]

Holy bejesus.

[Sean Buffini]

This is fucking madness. Dan, it went two nothing.

[Dan Powers]

Islanders that we don't keep. Keep doing what you're doing. You're. You're on a roll. I don't. I don't care about what's going on in the game.

[Sean Buffini]

Okay. Bruins wild card, 174 played, 92 points. And keep in mind, Habs 7394.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah.

[Sean Buffini]

Blue Jackets wild card two. 7488. Y sends out 7386. But one win is tied with the Blue Jackets. Wings out 73, 86. Same. Flyers out 7386. Same. And then caps out 74, 83. So caps still on the fringe, but

[Dan Powers]

we're going to leave the Caps out of this discussion. Yep, we are fully in a war between the Bruins, Blue Jackets, Sens. Wings and Flyers. The flyers are 100% in it.

[Sean Buffini]

They're tied with the Blue Jackets.

[Dan Powers]

It's. I give. So I think that. That it's. Yeah. It's unacceptable for me to sit here and say that the Philadelphia Flyers have no business being in this conversation. And when I'm going to sit here and be like this. But the Detroit Red Wings do. Yeah, the Detroit Red Wings are. They need Larkin back in this lineup so fucking badly.

[Chris Powers]

It's actually.

[Dan Powers]

And I do believe it should be any day now, but it Is it's an absolute disaster.

[Sean Buffini]

How.

[Dan Powers]

How bad they are in March three years in a row now.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

Where you're like in a great spot and you just let March completely dick kick you.

[Sean Buffini]

Think about the fact that they were comfortably in the Atlantic automatic bids for a long time.

[Dan Powers]

It was unbelievable. And now they're 4, 5 and 1 in their last 10. And Philly up their asshole is 8, 1 and 1 on a three game heater.

[Sean Buffini]

And I got to believe, Dan, I don't know this for sure, but the way they're listed on NHL.com, i got to believe, is incorporating some sort of tiebreakers already. Like they're doing that math. So they're behind the sense of, you

[Dan Powers]

know, in terms have a tie.

[Sean Buffini]

Exactly. Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

Yes. Which is not good. Right. So it's. It's. It's now or never. You know, it's nine games. You in. Frankly, Chris, you have to win seven.

[Sean Buffini]

I'm serious. I know, I know.

[Dan Powers]

The Detroit Red Wings have nine games left. If you want to make it into the playoffs, you have to win seven of those nine. You have to go seven and two in or some sort of fashion of that in the next nine games.

[Sean Buffini]

And it feels like the Wings are. This is maybe harsh, but it feels like the Wings are slightly out of the Atlantic race.

[Dan Powers]

I don't think that that's harsh. I mean, you're six games back from Boston with a game in hand and

[Sean Buffini]

the Habs, you know, so. So now I'm like.

[Dan Powers]

But I'm saying. Well, I'm like, yeah, definitely the Habs. The Habs are above Boston, so.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah. So it's got to be a wild.

[Dan Powers]

You're a wild card team now.

[Sean Buffini]

Yep.

[Dan Powers]

You are out of the Atlantic race, probably.

[Sean Buffini]

And do you think.

[Dan Powers]

Certainly.

[Sean Buffini]

Do you think. Because Is there. Oh, the Jackets. Yeah, the Jackets. Pens and aisles are going to be going nuclear for those two spots.

[Dan Powers]

Y.

[Sean Buffini]

And then. Yeah. Cause then if you want the Wings in, then, you know someone's gonna take a bullet here. The fucking aisles or the Jackets are dead. Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

It's. What's really tough is all these teams are good and they're fun to watch and they deserve it. But when it comes down. And this is a. I'm a Detroit fan. My version of I'm a bitch. I know. But since the beginning of this podcast, everyone knows that I love Detroit. I will have to admit right now, they do not deserve it.

[Sean Buffini]

They probably deserve it the least. The way they're playing. They deserve it.

[Dan Powers]

That's all I'm Saying the way that they're playing. And what really sucks, Chris, is Columbus is slipping into that territory with the last few games. Yep. Like, if, if, if you want to get a spot at the table. And that's all we're about. We just want a spot at the table. You have to win important games down the stretch. And it's like, when I look at Philly being 8, 1 and 1 in their last 10, I'm like, good fucking for you. Yes. Like, you, you are winning games down the stretch. And what's crazy is, like, in the west, literally no one is.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

Everyone is bad.

[Sean Buffini]

Yep.

[Dan Powers]

With the exception of Edmonton.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

Edmonton loses. Leon.

[Sean Buffini]

Leon.

[Dan Powers]

And they've won three in a row, like, games that I was like, you maybe shouldn't win this game. They're winning them. So it's like, that's what you gotta fucking do. And that's why they're ahead of Vegas right now.

[Sean Buffini]

Yep.

[Dan Powers]

So if we're being real, we have to be real in the sense of who is deserving of it right now in playing clutch. Because what does everyone say? These are all playoff games. Every game for the rest of the season for the. Every team we just named argue that. Boston as well. But all of these teams, and that's just in the east, we're going to get to it in the west, you are playing playoff hockey right now with

[Sean Buffini]

some important matchups against the team you're competing with.

[Dan Powers]

Yes.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah, absolutely. I think that the. Well, I don't need to make a prediction yet. I'm going to wait and we'll go get a little bit closer.

[Chris Powers]

Yeah.

[Sean Buffini]

Okay. So that's the east, the West. Here are the teams that we are going to be. Speaking of.

[Dan Powers]

Don't even talk about the Central. Just go.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah, for sure.

[Dan Powers]

Into the wild card.

[Sean Buffini]

Vegas third in Pacific, 74 played, 80 points. Mammoth wildcard one 74 played 82 points. Pred's wildcard 274 played 77 points. Kings out 73 played 76 points. Spunk out 72 played, 75 points. Jets out 73 played 74 points. Sharks out 71 played, 73 points.

[Dan Powers]

I mean, like, if you're. If you're going to mention the Sharks, you have to mention the fucking Blues, who have the same amount of points in 72.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah, but one more game. So I only put the Sharks in for the 71 games.

[Chris Powers]

Yeah.

[Sean Buffini]

Which is fair because, like, that's just too extra, you know.

[Dan Powers]

Brutal run for the Sharks.

[Sean Buffini]

Brutal.

[Dan Powers]

Absolutely brutal. The Kings. Well, let's go to the Pacific. I'M not even entirely sure I'm ready to call it for the Ducks, because fair, they are three points ahead of Edmonton and they have one game in hand on Edmonton and Vegas. So that's good. But there is nothing about any of the way these teams are playing that's saying that, like, yeah, they're going to hold it wide to the wire. My bet is the Ducks win the Pacific, but anything could happen. No doubt. And as we just said, Edmonton has won three straight games, so keep your eyes on Edmonton. And I. It'll never happen, but it would have been the funniest thing in the world if Edmonton claimed that number one spot and somehow the Kings go on a heater and claim the number one wild card spot and then play them.

[Sean Buffini]

Doesn't that feel so possible?

[Dan Powers]

I really don't think it does. I really don't think it's possible. I don't think it's even close to so possible. Yeah, they are six points behind Utah, and you need Edmonton to jump the Ducks and you need the Kings to win fucking nine straight games.

[Sean Buffini]

So. Yeah. Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

No, it does not.

[Sean Buffini]

Well, they're only. They're only four. If they win, like, they have an extra game.

[Dan Powers]

Sure. But I just. No, it does not feel so.

[Sean Buffini]

With the way the King.

[Dan Powers]

It is literally a possibility, but it surely does not feel so possible. Yeah, I. I cannot believe the just do do battle that this is. I mean, it's like. It's crazy, dude. And I can't get over if the Kings sneak in. I know we already talked about this. If the Kings sneak in and they play Anaheim in the first round, that is in. Anyone can win series. Which is hilarious because Anaheim is. Has been first in the Pacific for so long, but they still have a minus goal differential and the Kings have a minus 27 goal differential. But, like, they could absolutely win. Who on, right?

[Sean Buffini]

But per you, they're never going to get. They're never going to catch the Mammoth. So who cares? Like, the only way they could play the Ducks is if they pass all the way.

[Dan Powers]

Well, I'm not saying that. I'm saying. I mean, yeah, I know what you're saying, but that is more likely to me than Edmonton also jumping the Ducks.

[Sean Buffini]

Okay.

[Dan Powers]

The Kings doing that. Anyway, what's wild is whoever. I think the Utah Mammoth are getting in the playoffs. I think we're going to get this number one wild card seed. Everyone else is right now. Not a scary hockey.

[Sean Buffini]

It's not a playoff team. I'm literally like, what are you doing here?

[Dan Powers]

I mean, Looking. I know I get too obsessed with things like gold. If. But, like, these teams are all. We'll call it 500. You're all 500 hockey teams, and everyone has, like a minus 20 or. Or worse or slightly better goal differential. It's like the Preds Kings, Kraken and Jets and Sharks, if you want. Sneaking into the playoffs to get fist fucked by the Colorado Avalanche would be. Is like, crazy. But also like the AVs.

[Sean Buffini]

The AVs stink, dude. Who cares, Dude.

[Dan Powers]

Everyone in. It's. I think it's since the. Since the olympic break, the 10 best teams in the NHL are all Eastern Conference teams, I'm pretty sure. And it is weird watching the west, which felt like the most treacherous division of all time or conference of all time. It's weird since Olympics feeling like there's a legitimate shift of, like, who is scary.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

Because. Right. No one.

[Sean Buffini]

I agree.

[Dan Powers]

I mean, I'll give Dallas some credit, but they've been.

[Sean Buffini]

They've been a little leaky.

[Dan Powers]

Definitely lost to the Flyers, so it's just.

[Sean Buffini]

Just kidding. I love the Flyers.

[Dan Powers]

Wild card race is crazy.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

The.

[Sean Buffini]

I'm so happy, I guess just because of our. Our allegiance, but it's. It's. I'm so. The Kings currently control their destiny. Like, if you. You if the King.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah.

[Sean Buffini]

Which is amazing considering how it was looking a little while ago. I was like, you are so fucked. And now I'm like, oh, my God. If you just win the games left, you win.

[Dan Powers]

They are 3, 3 and 4 in their last 10, Chris. And they are somehow, if they control. If they win. Yeah. They're. Because they have a game in hand. If they win their next game, they are the second wild card.

[Sean Buffini]

I'm like, holy shit. So that is so awesome. I feel bad for the Preds because, like I said one or two episodes ago, this fight back has been iconic because they were deader than dead, whereas the Spunk and the Sharks have been fading for a while and the jets, who very much should be a playoff team. It's kind of shame on you for the start you had for the. How you've played. So I do feel bad for the Preds, but it is awesome to see the Kings in control of their own destiny, because at least not. At least you get to rally now. It's. It's fucking. We got to do it. We got to do it. It's.

[Dan Powers]

What I find so interesting is, I mean, there's great players on all these teams. The Jim Hiller firing happened so late and so weird. I believe so passionately that this the team that is on the LA Kings roster, even with the Kevin Fiala injury. You bring in Panarin, you get Mojo in here, you get Lottie in here. Unbelievable. Guys to like up the vibes in the locker room and give you some awesome options in your lines. You, you, you look at the way some teams like Philly right now is playing like Buffalo and their surge in the second half of the season. You wonder if could it be possible that in the last nine games of the year, the Kings just find the team that they always could have been this year?

[Sean Buffini]

It is possible.

[Dan Powers]

And if. Because Darcy Kemper is so good.

[Sean Buffini]

I know. God.

[Dan Powers]

And there are so many great players on this. And it's like I feel like an idiot for believing in it, but I'm like, I think it's there.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

I don't know what's going to make it happen because I think it's coaching for me personally. But if somehow they clicked and all of a sudden they're buzzing again, even without Kev, that would be a wild. Like Colorado's been kind of coming down the stretch here. Would that be insane? Yes, it would be insane. But crazier things have happened. It is like you said, the Kings do control their own destiny. And of all of. In my opinion, and I might be delusional of Nashville, Louisiana, Seattle and Winnipeg. I'm sorry, I'm eliminating the Sharks.

[Sean Buffini]

Okay.

[Dan Powers]

Of those teams, LA is the team that I believe in the most that could figure it out. Yeah, we'll see.

[Sean Buffini]

Yep. I agree.

[Dan Powers]

Scary.

[Sean Buffini]

Very scary. Very tense. I'm fucking tense.

[Dan Powers]

But the race continues to be insane.

[Sean Buffini]

All right, let's kick it to college hockey. Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

Just a quick Frozen 4 update for you because there was some wild shit going on over the weekend. ESPN continues to fuck up the coverage so bad. I. I think it was like there was one of the. These games was on and they fucking dumped it for like a. I don't even know what it was. It was like a baseball. Like a random baseball thing. And I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? Anyway, men's Frozen four is ripping and rolling. North Dakota continues to steamroll. They have literally yet to give up a goal.

[Sean Buffini]

Mike, I love my championship pick. It looks very fucking good.

[Dan Powers]

They beat the hockeys champs, Merrimack, 3 nothing.

[Sean Buffini]

Which credit to Merrimack was tighter game than I expected.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah, but dude, they just like, they. I don't really feel like they had any scoring chance.

[Sean Buffini]

They didn't. But I lost three, not 10. And I was Like, Jesus Christ.

[Dan Powers]

And then they waxed Quinnipiac5 nothing. Unbelievable. We got the Michigan State Wisconsin game. Unbelievable.

[Sean Buffini]

We were texting the Wisconsin something. Maybe they're going to do it. Maybe the boys.

[Dan Powers]

You've been all over it.

[Sean Buffini]

Yep.

[Dan Powers]

But. But just before, halfway through the second, State went up 3, 1 with a peeper. Then in less than 40 seconds, Wisconsin, boom. Two goals, ties it up. They go into overtime in 24 seconds. Boom. Win state dead.

[Chris Powers]

Bye.

[Dan Powers]

Bye.

[Sean Buffini]

That is a disaster. If you're Michigan State who hatched long stretches, I was like, is better than Michigan and the best team in this country.

[Chris Powers]

Yeah,

[Dan Powers]

long stretches, I think, I think, yes.

[Sean Buffini]

Because even in times when they were 2, I was like, they're better. Okay.

[Dan Powers]

For me, I think early on, at most it was ever was three weeks.

[Chris Powers]

Yeah.

[Sean Buffini]

That's probably as long as when they were one.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah. And even in that period where there were two, like after Michigan beat them, because, dude, it has been three months now of Michigan being the best team in the country.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

So I reject long stretches.

[Sean Buffini]

I think they're better than Michigan and now we'll never know.

[Dan Powers]

Well, I think we do know.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah. Yeah. Correct. We do know.

[Dan Powers]

I think I'm now certain. Yeah.

[Sean Buffini]

Um, but I'll just cut to this here because we can do it. The one perk is Porter, friend of the program Porter Martone, by off to the.

[Dan Powers]

Off to the majors instantly has joined the Flyers. Flyers fans are pumped up. He is debuting tomorrow.

[Sean Buffini]

Tomorrow. You're listening to this today.

[Dan Powers]

You're listening to it today. Debuting against the Caps in Washington. He was led Michigan State in goals this year. He's been phenomenal. He's an amazing fucking kid.

[Sean Buffini]

And dude, what an ad for the Flyers. Like, great, great tangent on this.

[Dan Powers]

The shit that gets you in the playoffs.

[Sean Buffini]

That's what I mean. I'm like, you add Puerto Martine comes in place, fearless pumps in goals.

[Dan Powers]

And I'm like, yo Bruins, why don't you grab James Hagan who just scored a fucking sick peeper on Providence and

[Sean Buffini]

get him up to the. Get him up. So yeah, I'm sure Porter's actually fucking devastated. But bright, bright future. I'm pumped for him. Tough loss after a weird year.

[Dan Powers]

As we always say, don't count out Denver.

[Sean Buffini]

Fucking insane dude.

[Dan Powers]

Five nothing clapping of Cornell. Thanks for coming out, ivy. And then a 6:2 shellacking of Western Michigan, last year's champs. That is an absolute disaster for me personally because guess who's playing? Denver.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah. The way they've did it, I think we had the same picks, but it was funny watching this go pretty much exactly how we said where we went, man. Cornell could give pretty much anyone else a game, but Denver will throttle them. And then Western Michigan, I respect you. You will win one game because people are been chirping you incorrectly all year. But then you will run into the bus of Denver and your. And then just went like.

[Dan Powers]

I was like, yeah, exactly correct.

[Sean Buffini]

I was also laughing, Dan. You talking Ivy. Dartmouth either went up one nothing or tied it one one with Quantum. And I can't remember.

[Dan Powers]

And I was like, yeah.

[Sean Buffini]

And then they were like, and you're dead. Yeah. Fuck.

[Dan Powers]

So then the game we all knew would be a barn burner. Michigan goes up three nothing in the first period against Duluth. And it was done. Yeah. I was like, this game is over. Then in the third, Duluth scores.36 seconds in my butthole.

[Sean Buffini]

Puckered up a little bit.

[Dan Powers]

And then, like, two minutes later, Michigan scored. And I was like, boom, we're done. But Duluth, Claude, they made it 4:2. Then with about three minutes left, they scored again, but the Wolverines held on. So we have our Frozen Four on, I believe, April 9th.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

April 9th, we got our matchups, and it. It's pretty. This is the. In my opinion, one of the more electric frozen fours we've seen in a long time. Like, and I look at this, and I'm seeing four blue bloods.

[Sean Buffini]

Yep.

[Dan Powers]

And I'm seeing teams that we were kind of, like, expecting as this tournament shook out. And we saw the teams, and I was like, this is the four that I want in the final.

[Sean Buffini]

What was your. My frozen Four was Michigan. No, Dak. Denver. And then just Michigan State instead of Wisconsin.

[Dan Powers]

Mine was Michigan, Denver. Nodak. And like, I. In our purposes of Dartmouth. Well, yeah, in the purpose of what we're doing, I was like, maybe Dartmouth.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

No, I believe that. I had Michigan State.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah. So the. I think with all respect to Wisconsin, who had some incredible wins this year, clearly the Michigan State, if you drop Michigan State in here instead of Wisconsin, it is one of the great frozen fours of all time. Yes. Because I just go, oh, my God. Yeah. But. But again, Wisconsin just beat their ass and had some massive wins this year, so they will be just as worthy of a competitor they could fucking beat. No, Dak. So I'm essentially here with you in that. This is. This is a great. If you like college hockey, man, obviously, upsets are cool, but this is fucking.

[Dan Powers]

Mark. Mark. Your calendar.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

April 9th, we have. These are all Pacific times. We have a 2pm Wisconsin, North Dakota game, and then a 5:30pm Michigan, Denver game. They're both going to be fucking electric college hockey games. You should all watch them. I. This is a nightmare matchup for Michigan. I'm so. You got to the frozen four.

[Sean Buffini]

Yep.

[Dan Powers]

Good step one. But this is just not the team you want to play. And I'm not saying you would rather be playing Wisconsin or North Dakota much more, but Denver is just Denver. They are, they are so well coached. They are so good. They've been here. It's just scary. That said, I got Michigan, North Dakota, final, same.

[Sean Buffini]

That was my bracket fucking rights. Should be sick.

[Dan Powers]

Should be sick. I cannot wait.

[Sean Buffini]

All right, speaking of a Denver kid.

[Dan Powers]

Speaking of a Denver kid. Last bit of hot ice news before we get in here. This is just something that popped up that we simply cannot skip over so far. Simply cannot skip. Troy Terry, one of the most underrated players in the national 52 games this year. 52 points. Just an unbelievable perennial point per game type guy. Hilarious dude. Great player, great person. He is the first player in NHL history to log 50 games in a season without a single hit. I. We are not, hey, we are not hit shaming Troy here.

[Sean Buffini]

No, we're not.

[Dan Powers]

We would never do that. What I want to know is how

[Sean Buffini]

did you do that? Yes.

[Dan Powers]

I don't know how you can be a top line NHL player, point per game, NHL player and literally avoid contacting other players.

[Sean Buffini]

You can be hit, correct?

[Dan Powers]

Yes.

[Sean Buffini]

So he's big.

[Dan Powers]

He has never doled out a hit.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah, he's just never, never laid the bot. See what I don't get, Dan, not only how, because I can go for a skate with the best of them where I'm avoiding all contact.

[Dan Powers]

You are notoriously a bitch.

[Sean Buffini]

I don't know how a coach has said anything about like, does he know the body? Because he's clearly been in on forechecks and been like, hey, dude, defenseman must love him. Opposing defense will just be like, oh, flip it in the corner. Can you imagine?

[Dan Powers]

I'm thinking about myself chasing down a puck into the corner and looking over my shoulder and seeing TT coming at me and I'm like this.

[Sean Buffini]

Oh, it's amazing. I'll just snap tape to tape breakout pass. Yeah, we're good.

[Dan Powers]

I don't need to brace for impact at all.

[Sean Buffini]

Do you think there's a chance he's pulling a Hyman and then come playoff time, he's a fucking wrecking ball. Sure. Because Zach hyman had like 11 hits or whatever.

[Dan Powers]

There is a chance But I associated this with. Remember that kid who got a zero on the sats?

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah. It's harder.

[Dan Powers]

And his argument was, I, in fact, have to know all of the correct answers, because when I'm filling out the multiple choice, I need to know to make sure to not accidentally get the right answer to get a zero. Pretty good logic.

[Sean Buffini]

Pretty good logic. So maybe Troy is the toughest guy in the league.

[Dan Powers]

I think there's a chance that Troy is the most controlled and poised skater in the NHL.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah. You have no idea how my edges

[Dan Powers]

work when you're mixing it up in the corners. The fact that he's like, nope, nope, yeah, yeah, not hitting you.

[Sean Buffini]

That's impressive. And who are these scorekeepers? I wonder, like, hometown cooking a little bit on that.

[Dan Powers]

Like, I want Troy to hit us up because I wonder if this stat came out and he's like, come on, I've hit someone. What are you doing to me? There's definitely a chance that.

[Sean Buffini]

That, yeah, he's either proud of it, or he's like, what the fuck?

[Dan Powers]

Yeah. Like, someone clearly showed that to him in the locker room. And there's a. There's a world where he's like, yeah, I'm proud. I'm proud of every single one of those units, dude. Yeah. I have not hit anybody. But there's also a chance that he's like, what? I definitely hit someone.

[Sean Buffini]

That is so good, bro.

[Dan Powers]

If. If you're Troy and this. This comes out, do you go, you damn right, dude. I'm gonna finish the season without any. Or are you going into the next game being like, I'm plowing someone?

[Sean Buffini]

I think at this point, you have an obligation to us as a. As a people. To go 80. To go 80, no hits.

[Dan Powers]

Well, he missed some games.

[Sean Buffini]

Or to go. To go. Yes. To go 60 to go to goose egg and go like this. All right. I make that record, bitch.

[Dan Powers]

I personally think it would be so funny and so tongue in cheek if next game he just runs someone and then, like, claps his stick to the yeah, yeah.

[Sean Buffini]

Crowd. Are you not entertained?

[Dan Powers]

And, like, Honda center would. Would do well to, like, make a meal out of it. Like, Joy Terry with his first hit. Get him a puck.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah, yeah. Save the puck, dude. First hit.

[Dan Powers]

First hit in the season. Unbelievable.

[Sean Buffini]

Good job, Troy.

[Dan Powers]

It's just. I. It's one. Listen. We love when we get deep into the season here and some of the craziest stats are revealed. Yeah. And I genuinely credit to him. I don't know how you do that.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

I don't know how you play 52 NHL games again on a top line. Like, can you look up right now? How many minutes does he play a game? Like, probably 18 minutes a game. And he somehow has just made it through this entire season without laying a check.

[Sean Buffini]

This year he's at 18. 16.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah.

[Chris Powers]

Yep.

[Dan Powers]

Like, good goddamn, brother.

[Sean Buffini]

Hold on. Yeah. How many do you think he had last year in 77 games?

[Dan Powers]

In 77 games? I bet Troy Terry had nine hits last year.

[Sean Buffini]

Seven. Seven. Dan. Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

I mean, listen.

[Sean Buffini]

But, dude, the year before that, in 76 games, he had 17 hits.

[Dan Powers]

He's just preserving the body.

[Sean Buffini]

So, you know he's doing it.

[Dan Powers]

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[Sean Buffini]

My favorite things to do. John and I already had a session before we started recording. You weren't even here yet.

[Dan Powers]

Did you?

[Chris Powers]

Yeah, yeah. We were talking about it for a while.

[Dan Powers]

It's unbelievable.

[Chris Powers]

All the good content's already gone.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah, yeah, it was amazing.

[Dan Powers]

So we're dead.

[Sean Buffini]

We should have rolled camera on that.

[Dan Powers]

You have nothing to say?

[Sean Buffini]

Would have been money.

[Dan Powers]

Harry Potter's back in the news because HBO and Warner Brothers dropped the new Harry Potter series trailer.

[Sean Buffini]

Cp.

[Dan Powers]

You haven't watched it? For those who don't know, CP doesn't watch trailers.

[Sean Buffini]

Do not watch things I'm excited about. I'll happily watch trailer of some dog shit.

[Dan Powers]

We went and saw Project Hail Mary the other day.

[Chris Powers]

Yes. I haven't seen it yet.

[Dan Powers]

Chris spent the majority of the preview section of the movies with his head in his shirt and his fingers plugging his ears and humming at show tune. And I was like, this is exciting because it means a lot of great stuff is coming.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah. There are this many things that you don't want to see. That's a good sign. But the Potter trailer has been released and it has sparked a lot of chatter online. But since you haven't watched it, we're not going to get into that. We're going to get into an idea that you had.

[Sean Buffini]

We were just sitting there talking about some of the casting, which I think we did on this pod once. Some of the casting of the show,

[Dan Powers]

I think we did do that.

[Sean Buffini]

And then I said to Dan, we were just driving, we were in Utah, and I said, what do you think the top five casting in the movies are? And you were like, oh, whoa. And then this is what sparked Sean and my conversation earlier where we were like, there are not a lot of Mrs. No at all in the movie.

[Dan Powers]

I think it is. I think the Harry Potter films, all eight of them, is some of the greatest achievement in the history of film.

[Sean Buffini]

Yep. All I think gets no credit, by the way.

[Dan Powers]

I know, it's crazy. Lord of the Rings, incredible love, Lord of the Rings. But those movies were made. They get all of these Oscar nominations. They get all of this love. How, how, how. How did John Williams not win a single Oscar for the Harry Potter scores?

[Sean Buffini]

It's actually a chance.

[Dan Powers]

I know Alexandre des Pla eventually took them over, but John Williams creates maybe the most iconic piece of music in Hegwood's theme, and we didn't give him an Oscar for that, dude.

[Sean Buffini]

And Lord of the Rings won. And you know what sucks? Lord of the Rings score is incredible. But Hedwig's theme is it's actually impossible to think that Harry Potter as an entity existed before that.

[Dan Powers]

Imagine creating something that perfect.

[Sean Buffini]

That's how good it is.

[Chris Powers]

It's so integral to the atmosphere and the mood and the identity of Harry Potter. It is kind of weird to think of a time before that existed. I have very vague memories of Harry Potter existing as a book and not existing as a film yet.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah.

[Chris Powers]

And it's weird thinking back to that time, who I didn't have like a mental image of, like Daniel Radcliffe.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah.

[Chris Powers]

But yeah, it's. It's one of those things where, like, I remember at the time as well, everyone was like. Because they're both fantasy, I suppose. Like, Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings were kind of like in parallel in the consciousness. But they couldn't be more different as film franchises, except for the fact that they both play with fantasy.

[Dan Powers]

Yes.

[Chris Powers]

Yeah.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

Right.

[Chris Powers]

So it's weird that they are compared. I will say the Lord of the Rings films are fantastic achievements in filmmaking. But in terms of, like, blockbuster children's movies, Harry Potter has to be like, number one. And people forget that they are. They were considered conceived as children's movies.

[Dan Powers]

Yes.

[Chris Powers]

Because they were children's books. And now it seems like it's such an integral part to modern culture. It's like.

[Dan Powers]

Well, I think it's very impressive how the books and thus the movies aged with the characters and with us. By book three, we were already going, these aren't really kids books anymore.

[Chris Powers]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

And then certainly not by book 4.

[Chris Powers]

The third film is the best in the. Is my favorite and I maintain is the best in the entire series.

[Dan Powers]

My guy right there.

[Sean Buffini]

I remember when. I remember in for Reading for When Cedric Gets Killed, I Was like, dude, spoilers, kill that guy. Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

That rattled to my core. I was young. I mean, I was about. I was like exactly the age of Harry as these books came out.

[Chris Powers]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

So I was 14, 15. And they fucking deaded Cedric. And I was like, holy shit. What? We're killing people in this shit.

[Chris Powers]

We were talking earlier about how it starts off with like the.

[Dan Powers]

Oh, yeah.

[Chris Powers]

Like the Dursleys being like kind of like. It's very Matilda esque.

[Dan Powers]

Very Matilda esque.

[Chris Powers]

Where Vernon is very kind of like Ms. Trenchbull.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah.

[Chris Powers]

And it's like kind of goofy. It's kind of like Saturday morning cartoon villain. But then by the end of it, you have Voldemort's head, like face skin graft onto the back of Professor Quill's head. And it's like body horror, like actual scary stuff going on. And that's just in the first.

[Sean Buffini]

That's in the book we call a kid's book.

[Dan Powers]

Burning, Burning flesh.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dan Powers]

Disintegrating a man.

[Chris Powers]

I maintain kids like being scared. It's like what Halloween and everything's about.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah, yeah. Now they're.

[Chris Powers]

They're just wrapped up in bubble wrap so much. You got to get them back.

[Dan Powers]

You're start scaring the out of kids.

[Chris Powers]

Yeah.

[Sean Buffini]

More.

[Dan Powers]

I love it.

[Sean Buffini]

Okay, so we're going to do our top five casting choices in the movie. And the answers that we've come to are a combination of their performance.

[Dan Powers]

Thank you.

[Sean Buffini]

And how they look compared to what you expected after reading the book. Like you read the book. Character's described, how does this actor look? And then also their performance.

[Dan Powers]

So if it's an important book, if four people freak out, that is important. And if you weren't a book reader, you cannot participate in this conversation. Yeah, yeah. That's not true. Yes, you can, but you can't yell at us because you didn't read the books.

[Sean Buffini]

Yep.

[Dan Powers]

So how do we want to do this? Do we want to like snake draft or just. Yeah, we can have overlap.

[Sean Buffini]

Oh, for sure, for sure. And I want to say I feel as though this might be a cop out, but I mean it. This is my top five today. And I. My, like tomorrow I might be like, actually this guy.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah, that's fair.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah. Like, this is how I'm feeling right

[Dan Powers]

in this as we're doing this right now.

[Sean Buffini]

Yep.

[Dan Powers]

This is your idea. Why don't you start?

[Sean Buffini]

Okay, man. I have a short list. Well, God, it's so good. But I have a short list. But I'm going to go.

[Dan Powers]

I Thought we were doing five.

[Sean Buffini]

I know. I'm saying I have a. I didn't even pick a five. Like, I.

[Chris Powers]

His five is three.

[Sean Buffini]

I'm picking.

[Chris Powers]

I was like, what.

[Sean Buffini]

I'm looking at 10. This might be a. This might be the upset of the tournament in five. I'm going Rert Grint, Ron Weasley.

[Dan Powers]

We're going five to one.

[Sean Buffini]

Five to one. Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

Okay.

[Sean Buffini]

My number five is Ron Weasley. I didn't think.

[Dan Powers]

Or.

[Sean Buffini]

I don't know. I don't. You guys have. I don't think any of the. The kids will get on here for various reasons. But I just thought that actually the whole Weasley family is quite good. But I just thought Ron. I thought he does a great job. It's obviously an easier role to play maybe because it's. It's. It's lighter and you're the comedic. You're the comic relief. But in those. In those heavier. When he's being a brat in seven moments, I thought he does a great job. And he just looks so much like Ron. So does the new kid, by the way. But. But he just like. He's like this little freckly, dirty new.

[Dan Powers]

Ron is probably, in my opinion, the best casting.

[Sean Buffini]

It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah.

[Chris Powers]

He.

[Dan Powers]

He's just. He looks just like Rupert Grint.

[Chris Powers]

So remind myself what he looks like.

[Sean Buffini]

But this was a. This is a great Ronald Weasley. Best friend of our hero. Yeah. And I loved it.

[Chris Powers]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

Very good. Sean, please.

[Chris Powers]

My number five is Imelda as Doris Umbridge.

[Sean Buffini]

Very good performance is a plus. Plus, plus.

[Chris Powers]

It's like the perf. Like everyone. Not many people go through their lives with a. A Voldemort style villain.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Chris Powers]

In real life. But everyone can relate to that person at school as a teacher or at work as a boss or somebody who has power over you and exercises that in the worst way. And Umbridge is like that dialed up to 11.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Chris Powers]

And she know, like, the actress knows that and plays into that and it's like just the perfect amount. Like, that's why she's more hated than any other villain in the series is because she's, like, grounded, but, like, in a hyper realistic way.

[Sean Buffini]

Dude, the cast said many times that she was one of their favorite people on set. She was so lovely on set. And then such a nightmare character. And Stephen King said that that's the most evil person in the series. He was like, I've rarely written a villain so evil. And I love. Famously, she is described over and over in the book as toad like. And I'm always like, ah, it's tough for an actor or actress. Like, become toad like. And of course, she doesn't look like a toad, but somehow she. Like the way they have her up here is. Works for me in that I'm like, yeah, look at this. She is the devil.

[Chris Powers]

And it's hard to, like, convey. So much of that character is in, like, the sound inflections of her voice. Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

Like all that.

[Chris Powers]

Those little.

[Dan Powers]

Those are unbelievable. You're absolutely right.

[Chris Powers]

And it's like. It's hard to, like. You can tell even when no matter what she's saying, how much rage she has inside of her, that she's like. She hates people, but rarely lets it come out in words. But it's just how she says those words. You get the true.

[Sean Buffini]

You get everything.

[Chris Powers]

Fantastic acting.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah. I. Okay. I just made an adjustment to my list.

[Sean Buffini]

Okay.

[Dan Powers]

For purposes of. I know there is one that will be on one of, if not both, of your lists.

[Sean Buffini]

Okay.

[Dan Powers]

I'm going to leave it off for the purposes of my point on it.

[Sean Buffini]

Okay.

[Dan Powers]

So my number five, I'm going to Emma Thompson. Sybil Trelawney looks exactly. And credit to the costume design and the way Emma Thompson played Cybil Trelawney is out of this world.

[Sean Buffini]

Yep.

[Dan Powers]

Exactly what I saw while reading the books. I was like, this is unreal.

[Sean Buffini]

That's a good one, too, because like you were saying, it's kind of hard to picture the. What did I. What did. What did I picture, you know, before you see these people. But that one is hilarious to me because I'm like, if I didn't picture exactly this, I should have been correct.

[Dan Powers]

Every time I watch the movies and she first shows up, I'm like, dear God.

[Sean Buffini]

Yes. This is good point, though. Costume, costume, makeup. Big factor.

[Dan Powers]

Big factor. Huge shout out to the costume and makeup design.

[Sean Buffini]

Okay, you want to do your four with Snake?

[Dan Powers]

Sure. My four, actually, no, keep going.

[Sean Buffini]

Okay, four. My picks are fucking rogue, but good four. Well, maybe I might want to leave this one for you. You talked about this earlier. Actually, I'll do it because there's going to be overlap. 4. I'm going. Uncle Vernon. Great one. Richard Griffiths. He is fucking perfect, dude. Like, there's an argument to me where he could be one. It just. He's in the movie so little, but. Which shouldn't hurt him because I'm just talking casting, but, dude, he is fucking perfect. Like the description of Uncle Vernon in

[Dan Powers]

the book, 20 out of 10, he's arguably the greatest actor in all of the movies.

[Sean Buffini]

I know.

[Dan Powers]

He steals every scene. He's in Justice. Oh, when he's eating ice cream. For me, the funniest is 2. No, 3. When he blows up. Aren't Marge.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dan Powers]

And Ripper is biting his leg and he's going. Ah, Ripper.

[Sean Buffini]

So funny. Fine day, Sunday. Fine day, Sunday.

[Dan Powers]

My opinion, the best day of the week.

[Sean Buffini]

Dude. His performance is incredible. Because he's so good. And just the image, dude.

[Chris Powers]

The physicality of his performance.

[Sean Buffini]

He is Uncle Vernon. Remarkable.

[Chris Powers]

We were talking about. Which isn't a thing with the character. At least I don't think it was. But the fact that Richard Griffiths has the lazy eye.

[Sean Buffini]

Yes.

[Chris Powers]

And he leans into that so much in the character because his Uncle Vernon, his eyes are always the size of dinner plates. And it just so. It just like always makes him seem even more kind of cartoonish.

[Dan Powers]

Yes.

[Chris Powers]

When he's doing horrible, villainous things to Harry.

[Sean Buffini]

So funny.

[Chris Powers]

So it just makes it. It makes it fantastic. Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

Yep.

[Sean Buffini]

Amazing. Okay, Sean,

[Chris Powers]

I. So this should be higher. And I know this is probably on your guys list too. It should be higher. Except for something that you said earlier, which made me think about it. But Alan Rickman as Severus Snape.

[Sean Buffini]

Yes.

[Chris Powers]

He's got. I mean, if I'm remembering correctly, it's like hook nose, pale skin, greasy long hair, which is exactly that. But you mentioned the facial hair.

[Sean Buffini]

Dan said this to me. Yeah, yeah.

[Dan Powers]

If I may have the floor.

[Chris Powers]

Yes.

[Dan Powers]

I believe I've left Alan Rickman off my list because of that. I think Alan Rickman is the best performance in these movies. I think he. If I.

[Sean Buffini]

It is Snake.

[Dan Powers]

If I am giving an award to who did the best in all these movies of becoming and creating said character, it goes to Alan Rickman for me. But in the first movie for me, you know what it was? It's in the illustrations too.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah. In the chapter.

[Dan Powers]

If you go back and read the books, there are. You know how there's always a picture at the beginning of the chapter? There are several with Snape and he has that jafar, almost Jafar, like wiry goatee. So when I was. I think it's early books. I think they adjusted after. See that one right there where he's got the mustache?

[Chris Powers]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dan Powers]

I think I just. That was so in my head. So the first time I saw the movie, I was like, oh, Snape.

[Sean Buffini]

No facial hair, no beard.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah. And. And it just.

[Sean Buffini]

It.

[Dan Powers]

It kind of.

[Chris Powers]

You know what I realized recently as well is that the US book covers are different to the UK ones.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah, the UK ones are cooler, but

[Chris Powers]

it's like we were talking about physicality earlier, and, like, Alan Rickman's, like, the sharpness of his movements is so threatening. The dude.

[Dan Powers]

His intro. I don't think it's his intro, but his intro to Potions classes in the

[Chris Powers]

first book or first movie storms in.

[Dan Powers]

There will be no frivolous wand waving or silly incantations in this classroom.

[Sean Buffini]

Incredible. Incredible dude.

[Chris Powers]

And, like, that voice carries nothing but contempt.

[Dan Powers]

Yes.

[Chris Powers]

Which is fantastic as well.

[Dan Powers]

How disappointing. He's so good.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah. That's probably best performance.

[Dan Powers]

It's got probably best performance.

[Chris Powers]

I wish it was higher, but if we're going. If accuracy to the book is part of it, then it's got to be lower. But I felt like I needed to be mentioned on the list.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah. I'm actually glad because I was like, I might not put him on mine, but he has to be mentioned. He has to be said. So that was good. That was good.

[Dan Powers]

I think I'm going to get into some heavy hitters here because they deserve to be mentioned. My four is Ralph Fiennes.

[Sean Buffini]

Oh, good one.

[Chris Powers]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

I feel like we always skip over him.

[Sean Buffini]

He does get to go over. He's not even on my short list.

[Dan Powers]

That's an interesting. Ralph Fiennes as Lord Voldemort is, again, credit to the makeup team. How easily could they have made that look so silly and stupid?

[Chris Powers]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

And he's terrifying.

[Chris Powers]

I don't know what I pictured before seeing Philosopher's stone or Sorcerer's stone in

[Dan Powers]

the us Say philosophers, because that is the proper name.

[Chris Powers]

It's because he's supposed to be way more Snake, like. But I don't know if I pick up Snake. If you were to show me a picture of the. What they landed on.

[Dan Powers]

Yes.

[Chris Powers]

By Goblet of Fire. Like that Voldemort design. I don't know if I would have picked up Snake from that. Whereas when you read the books, I'm constantly thinking snake.

[Sean Buffini]

Oh, my God.

[Chris Powers]

Yeah, yeah. So I don't know how accurate it is, but the makeup, as you said, they make it scary without making it look silly, which is kind of the balancing point that they're trying to do. And Ralph Fiennes is just so good at playing villains and everything.

[Dan Powers]

So good. Yeah, yeah, I agree. I don't think I see him, and I immediately think Snake. But the nose slits, the eyes, and I'm pretty sure there's even a shot where you see his tongue, and I think his tongue might Even be split in one of.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

But either way they could have done it could have been so dumb. And it was a grown ass man. I was like that. He just does not look fun to look at.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

And the performance is just unbelievable. The way he talks. He definitely adds a bit of a. With. With certain lines.

[Sean Buffini]

Yep.

[Dan Powers]

Just great.

[Chris Powers]

Yeah.

[Sean Buffini]

God. Okay. I am going to go number three. Bellatrix Lestrange, My favorite character. My number one that HBC delivers that in because, dude, another character where you're just. You just hate and more. More evil in the normal sense than Umbridge. But you are like. She is almost more menacing and.

[Chris Powers]

And evil than Voldemort enjoys being.

[Sean Buffini]

Me. Yes.

[Chris Powers]

More than any other character. Yeah.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah, definitely. And Voldemort's like so up here that she is so like Jesus Christ, dude.

[Chris Powers]

Like, yeah.

[Sean Buffini]

She could actually hurt us at any moment. And the performance is. The look is perfect or the performance is perfect.

[Dan Powers]

I gotta. We can't even get into it. It's criminal that these movies didn't get more award recognition.

[Chris Powers]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

You could nominate four people for Oscars every single movie. And they just never did it for any of them. And I'm like, what are we talking about? You're telling me Alan Rickman and wasn't getting Oscar nominations for that fucking shit For. For Half Blood Prince. You're telling me he's not getting an Oscar?

[Sean Buffini]

No.

[Dan Powers]

What are we talking about?

[Sean Buffini]

It's insane.

[Dan Powers]

And. And HBC is. Is HBC your one?

[Chris Powers]

I. No, not my one.

[Dan Powers]

Okay. On your list though?

[Chris Powers]

Well, it's already been mentioned now, but I was considering her.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah. Okay. So I'll just go.

[Sean Buffini]

She's your one? Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

Helena Bonham Carter as Bellatrix. Change is my number one looks. I don't even need to say it all. It's absolutely perfect.

[Sean Buffini]

It's absolutely. Dude, the fucking.

[Dan Powers]

The performance is perfect. The way she looks is perfect. The teeth.

[Sean Buffini]

Yes. Her.

[Dan Powers]

Oh my God. Everything. The way she interacts with Voldemort. Ugh. Are they fucking.

[Sean Buffini]

Maybe.

[Chris Powers]

You know that what really kind of bothers me about Cursed Child is the concept of Voldemort.

[Dan Powers]

I mean, surely he not canon.

[Chris Powers]

He should have just hit her with the old fetus Deletus or something.

[Dan Powers]

Yes. Yes, he should have. Yes, he should have. And yeah, I mean, it's not canon. Cursed Child is not canon. But yeah. HBC's mind to one. So what's your three?

[Sean Buffini]

What's your three?

[Chris Powers]

I had them in order, but I'm kind of rearranging as we go through them. I Think maybe Dewey Walters as Molly Weasley.

[Sean Buffini]

Really good pick.

[Chris Powers]

I think, like, really good pick Again.

[Dan Powers]

Everyone.

[Chris Powers]

When you read that book, you envision like I think everyone going to school had like a friend's mom who was like that. And like she is exactly like. I know a friend of mine in, when I was in primary school whose mom was exactly like that. And it's just so funny the way like that. It's not even like how the character necessarily like looks or talks or acts, but it's like the feeling of that character.

[Sean Buffini]

Yes.

[Chris Powers]

She brings it to life so well and, and just seems incredibly relatable.

[Sean Buffini]

Dude.

[Dan Powers]

Couldn't agree more.

[Sean Buffini]

The, like I said at the top, the entire. We were talking earlier the entire Weasleys, except for Ginny, no offense because I think she's a great actress. I just, it didn't like pan out the way I think the, with the per.

[Dan Powers]

The book. Yeah.

[Sean Buffini]

The entire Weasley casting is like spot on. Yeah. I'm like, oh, yeah, that's. That's pretty much how I pictured it.

[Chris Powers]

Every single minute of the. When you have the entire ensemble together on screen, it's always fantastic. Every minute is golden of the wheezy interacting with one.

[Sean Buffini]

That's cool. What.

[Dan Powers]

What would you pay to have breakfast or brunch at the borough?

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

With the Weasley family.

[Chris Powers]

Right?

[Dan Powers]

Oh my God.

[Sean Buffini]

Everything. Yeah, correct. Everything I have everything I've got.

[Dan Powers]

I'm going to go. Another obvious one, but it's obvious because it's perfect. Keeper of keys and grounds at Hogwarts. Ruby's Hagrid, Robbie Coltrane.

[Sean Buffini]

Okay, that's my. That's my two. Okay.

[Dan Powers]

Robbie Coltrane. Perfect. Perfect transition. Robbie Coltrane voice look again, costume and makeup. But I think we all felt so warm and fuzzy during the, the whatever anniversary. 25 year anniversary. Was it 20 maybe 20 year anniversary. That special that came out on HBO. Every time he was on screen, obviously he had passed, but it was so emotional because I feel like we all loved Hagrid. Hagrid was like all of our godfather.

[Sean Buffini]

You're a wizard Harry. That's the moment, you know, and he's

[Dan Powers]

just so perfect in the book. And Robbie Coltrane did that so perfectly and sorry, but Nick Frost, who I am obsessed with.

[Chris Powers]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

It speaks to how good Robbie Coltrane was. Because in the trailer, Nick Frost's one line and scene, I was like, ugh, that's not my Hagrid.

[Sean Buffini]

Have you watched. You've watched the trailer?

[Chris Powers]

I've watched the trailer.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Chris Powers]

Okay. I, I'M very hopeful for Nick Frost.

[Sean Buffini]

He's gonna crush it.

[Chris Powers]

He's an incredible actor.

[Dan Powers]

He's going to crush it.

[Chris Powers]

But it is. It feels like like you're in an alternate reality.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Chris Powers]

It's like when you. It's just you were so familiar to that actor playing that character and all that's. That's the challenge. All these new actors are going to have is they're fighting an uphill battle. Yeah. And I think they're all probably going to kill it. But, like, that's the problem that they're going to have is that they're playing some of the most iconic film characters ever. And so they do have an uphill battle trying to convince you to get onto their side.

[Sean Buffini]

The. You said this. The. Which was a great call.

[Dan Powers]

The voice.

[Sean Buffini]

The voice, man, was really good because obviously there's a lot of costume that goes into that character, but the voice is great in that. I almost would have cast it that way, being like, do you sound like Hagrid? You know, and I really think he did. And I just want to add on top. And this has nothing to do with this voting, but it was still cool. The credit to the set design as well, because everything. Hagrid. I thought the entire movie was perfect. Like, not just the way he looked, but like.

[Chris Powers]

Yeah.

[Sean Buffini]

The way the Hippogriff looked, the way his cottage looked, the way like the screw, like, everything that happens, I'm like, yeah, that's amazing. Perfect. Thank you. So good.

[Chris Powers]

It's. I. I do appreciate how the series has, like, so many different accents to write. Like, they didn't just keep it as, just like. I mean, Hogwarts is in Scotland.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Chris Powers]

I understand. And it like, you have a lot of like, British, like, well, to do London area accents as well. But I love that there's like Scottish, Irish, like a lot of people don't twig that. Dumbledore's accent has a great Irish tinge to it as well because the original actor had it. And so when the replacement actor, who's also Irish came in, he kept that there as well. And then like, Cho Chang has, like kind of a Scouse.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Chris Powers]

Accent.

[Dan Powers]

She totally does. Which is.

[Sean Buffini]

I love that. Yeah.

[Chris Powers]

Although we can cut this out as well. How insane is it that Cho Chang's name is just a combination of two different types of Asian surnames from two different nations.

[Sean Buffini]

Yes.

[Chris Powers]

And JK was just like, cho Chang. Stick them together.

[Dan Powers]

And I will say, too, she.

[Sean Buffini]

We should leave this. She. Jk, we read a ton of fantasy books as Most listeners know she is the Goat Namer.

[Dan Powers]

Goat Namer. Like, think about all the names like Kingsley, Shacklebolt. It's. She's one of the great namers.

[Sean Buffini]

I've never seen a better namer in fantasy.

[Dan Powers]

Then she's like, let's literally Chocho Chang.

[Sean Buffini]

But even that sounds cool.

[Dan Powers]

I kind of agree. I was going to say that Cho Chang is a cool name.

[Chris Powers]

Like, damn. Isn't Shackle Bolt in itself controversial? Haven't people complained about that?

[Sean Buffini]

I think so.

[Chris Powers]

Like, Shackle sounds like slave. He's like one of the only black characters.

[Dan Powers]

Stop it, people. It's just a cool sounding name. I don't think there is any. God damn it.

[Chris Powers]

I will say there are some fantastic, fantastic names. When you have a universe with silly names like Hermione mixed in with very classic names like Harry and it seems like a cohesive universe.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Chris Powers]

Like, that's the hallmark of like.

[Sean Buffini]

Well, it's amazing.

[Dan Powers]

There's even Albus Dumbledore, the dullest dick.

[Chris Powers]

Yeah. Which is like a bee. A Dumbledore is like a bee, isn't it?

[Dan Powers]

I believe that's right. What do you mean?

[Chris Powers]

Dumbledore is the word. Dumbledore.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah.

[Sean Buffini]

That's amazing.

[Chris Powers]

Are you asking for my next person?

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah. What's your number?

[Chris Powers]

Sorry, I've been ranting on. Let me see. I think my number two is probably going to be. I was gonna do Vernon. You've already stolen that.

[Sean Buffini]

I know. I knew that you were gonna say that.

[Dan Powers]

It can still be your two.

[Chris Powers]

I might do. I'm gonna move my number one down to my number two and I'm gonna

[Sean Buffini]

consider a new number one.

[Chris Powers]

Harry Melling as Dudley Dursley.

[Sean Buffini]

Dude, he said this to me earlier. What an awesome comment. You can continue.

[Dan Powers]

Are you aware of what he looks like now? No.

[Chris Powers]

He's probably really.

[Dan Powers]

He looks phenomenal.

[Sean Buffini]

I know. It's incredible.

[Chris Powers]

Let me look him up now.

[Dan Powers]

That's a great pick.

[Chris Powers]

Okay, so this is. Yeah, yeah. Like, he looks great. The. So out of all the child actors. It is incredibly hard to cast child actors. Very. Especially when you're going to create a series that's going to go on for like, decade. You're kind of gambling on a lot there. But Harry Melling is the best child actor, I think, across the entire series. And as he grew up, he was like an insanely strong actor. As he became an adult through that series, you've to. It's very easy to just be the comic relief. It's very easy to just be the serious straight man. That Harry is. It's very easy to just be like these, these things. But having someone who's like, convincingly a little asswipe, but also hilarious on screen. He has so much charisma that you like, you hate Dudley, but you also love when he's on screen and all the goofiness that he does and how the physicality of the actor running down the stairs, jumping up and down on top of the thing. I mean, we've talked about the physicality like three times now because they just get that right every time. But he has to do that more than any of the other child actor roles, I think. And he is strong enough that you don't want him. You don't want him off screen, but you don't miss him when he is off screen. And then as he evolves as a character and he plays all those different phases of Dudley's life, like we get a little snippet of where he is in life every once in a while. And when he's now dressed like an American and he's like bullying Harry at the swing set, like he kills that role as well. And so I think he's an incredibly strong actor and I think he is the unsung hero of the child actors of the series.

[Sean Buffini]

Isn't that an insanely good take?

[Dan Powers]

It's a great take. And I love that you mentioned, I think about movie one when he gets trapped behind the glass in the snake terrarium.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

And he's pounding on the glass, he's like, mommy, mom. That's. I don't think in the moment we acknowledge how good that 11 year old is acting.

[Chris Powers]

He is genuine and he's crushing it. And just the scene prior, he's like, move out of the way. Like he's such a, like a bully and like he has to go through in such a short span of time convincingly hit all these different emotional like points.

[Dan Powers]

Whereas, you know, very Veruca Salt.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Chris Powers]

Draco has an entire film where he just has to be mean and like, you know, maybe has to, you know, get hurt or something, but then totally has to do such range in the first five minutes of every film.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah.

[Sean Buffini]

No time.

[Dan Powers]

Great point.

[Sean Buffini]

Did you ever see the deleted scene where it's the. It's the beginning of seven book when Harry's like, oh, they Dudley planted like a teacup to booby trap me. And Dudley's like, dude, that wasn't a booby trap. I was just trying to get you tea. And then like, you gotta go. He's like, why Isn't Harry coming? You know, that whole really nice scene in the scene.

[Chris Powers]

It upsets me so much that it didn't make it to the final cut. I love that scene.

[Sean Buffini]

Me too.

[Dan Powers]

I think it's such an important part of the book.

[Sean Buffini]

Same dude.

[Dan Powers]

It's really cool.

[Chris Powers]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

My two and my last one, because we know Helena was my first.

[Sean Buffini]

Oh, yeah.

[Dan Powers]

Nice is. I think rivals that. Sean, what you just said. Yeah, I'm going. Ivana Lynch. Luna Lovegood.

[Chris Powers]

Nice. Another good, strong Irish actress.

[Dan Powers]

I mean, amazing, Dan.

[Sean Buffini]

Amazing. She. She.

[Dan Powers]

I love interviews with Ivana lynch because she's like. When I read the books, I was like, I have to. To play Luna Lovegood. I am Luna Lovegood. And she is.

[Sean Buffini]

She is. Credit to the writing, I would say, because it gets. You know, her lines are amazing and she does such a good job. Perfect.

[Dan Powers]

She's perfect in every scene.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah, she. And God, she has the look like. Looks so good. It's. It's. I would love to go back and read. You know, you guys read the Snape description earlier. I'd love to go back and read the first Luna description because I can't pull it off the top of my dome. But it's. It cannot be far off.

[Dan Powers]

If memory serves, it's pretty spot on to how she's introduced in the book. It's like she's wearing, like, Gl.

[Sean Buffini]

Weird glasses. Yeah. It's just.

[Dan Powers]

She's. There's craziness going on. It's great.

[Sean Buffini]

She's so good. That's amazing. That's such a good pick. Okay. My.

[Dan Powers]

Both of your ones.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah, my one. And this is. Can't believe this hasn't been said. Well, because this one. I told you, my one is so rogue. And I only went with it. It's a smaller character, but I only went with it because. Similar to my uncle Vernon 1. This I don't think I've ever pictured. I've never seen the character look exactly how I pictured. More.

[Dan Powers]

Okay.

[Sean Buffini]

And for the short time he's on screen, the performance is great, actually. So, yeah, I think it's both. Is Filch.

[Dan Powers]

Oh, wow.

[Sean Buffini]

David Bradley is literally fucking perfect to me. Like, when Filch came on screen, I

[Dan Powers]

was like, oh, my God, student out of bed. Damn.

[Chris Powers]

How he's, like, running through the halls.

[Dan Powers]

So good.

[Chris Powers]

It's like a marionette puppet.

[Sean Buffini]

I'm so pissed about everything.

[Dan Powers]

Not. Hey, not rogue at all. That's a great pick.

[Sean Buffini]

Filch. Like, that is Filch is. If that isn't exactly what JK was picturing then I don't know who she was because that is fucking perfect.

[Dan Powers]

That is great. It's funny that he is Walder Frey. Yeah, he plays a really good greasy pretty well.

[Sean Buffini]

Really well. Dude. Oh man. Phil was just nailed it. Absolutely nailed it.

[Dan Powers]

Good, Chris. Fantastic. It's a really good pick.

[Sean Buffini]

Okay, Sean, what do you got?

[Dan Powers]

Round us out, Sean.

[Chris Powers]

I, I don't know if she does beat Dudley for me, but I'm going to go with Maggie Smith as Professor McGonagall.

[Sean Buffini]

Oh, dude, I love this one. I love this one.

[Dan Powers]

I, I, I love.

[Sean Buffini]

Yep.

[Dan Powers]

Similar to the Alan Rickman thing for me.

[Chris Powers]

I, well, I see my problem is that I can't unpicture her.

[Dan Powers]

I think I pictured her a little bit younger.

[Sean Buffini]

Younger. Well, this is.

[Chris Powers]

Okay, I will say we were talking about how good the casting is across the entire, the entire thing. There are some hiccups and one of the biggest ones for me is that so many of the characters in the films are so much older than what the characters should be in real life. Yeah. Like Snape should only be like 30 something.

[Dan Powers]

Oh yeah, I know. It's, it's because he's exactly the same age as James and Lily.

[Chris Powers]

Right.

[Sean Buffini]

And should be 32. They died at 21.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah, he should be 30 years old.

[Chris Powers]

Yeah. So there's a lot of problems like that. There's also like some issues like yeah, like Emma Watson was a cute kid and she grew up to be a beautiful woman and at no point was she like awkward looking, bushy haired and buck teeth, which is what she was supposed to be. So that's scene like in Goblet of Fire when they go to like the dance where she comes inside and everyone's like, wow. It's like, well, she was already very attractive.

[Dan Powers]

Can I give you a fun tidbit? There is, I believe, one or two scenes in the Philosopher's Stone where she has prosthetic teeth in to make them look bigger. But they were so big and uncomfortable that Chris Columbus was like, just ditch him.

[Sean Buffini]

Yep.

[Dan Powers]

And then an awesome thing in the books in two when do they take Polyjuice Potion?

[Sean Buffini]

Yes.

[Dan Powers]

That's two. That's Chamber of Secrets when Hermione accidentally turns herself into a cat by taking care off of Millicent Bulstrode's robes.

[Chris Powers]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

When she is getting fixed, Madame Pomfrey is shrinking her teeth and Hermione lets her keep going. She was like, she's fixing my teeth.

[Chris Powers]

Right.

[Dan Powers]

She's gonna tell me when it's armbuck teeth.

[Sean Buffini]

She's like, yo, go, go.

[Dan Powers]

Like, she comes out of that. And Harry and Ron are like, you look different. She's like, I let. I let her fix my teeth.

[Chris Powers]

And then the cool moment. That is a cool moment, which you'd imagine, like, all that. All of the students in Hogwarts must have, like, tricks up their sleeves.

[Sean Buffini]

It's crazy that we're not doing plastic surgery all the time.

[Dan Powers]

We're over here bitching about filler and bbls. You got to imagine the wizarding world is doing some shit 100%. But then.

[Chris Powers]

Then the other thing was Harry should be. We were talking about this earlier. Should be a lot more, like, sort of lanky.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Chris Powers]

Shapey.

[Dan Powers]

I stand for Daniel Radcliffe all the time. Because I think Daniel Radcliffe in the first movie is exactly what I pictured. I think it's some of the. And they talk about it, right? Chris Columbus in that special is like, when Dan walked in, we were like, holy shit, there's our hair. It is incredibly unfortunate that he just didn't grow.

[Chris Powers]

Yeah, well, I mean, how could the casting directors in 2001 or whatever, like, guess the. I do remember when the. When Chamber of Secrets was coming out, there was like a tabloid newspaper and a newsagents. And I remember as a kid looking at this, the scale that they had of Daniel, they had an image of Daniel Radcliffe and the same image scaled up to show his height growth between the two movies.

[Dan Powers]

Oh, really?

[Sean Buffini]

Like, is he getting too tall?

[Chris Powers]

And I remember even as a kid being like, this is the stupidest article you could have written for this. Seriously.

[Dan Powers]

Like, calm down.

[Chris Powers]

But the. But, yeah, like, there's a couple of things, a couple of, like, misses that work for the film very strongly, but are not technically accurate to the book. And I don't think that films based on books need to be like, slaves to what's on the page. But, I mean, shackles to the page.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Chris Powers]

Jesus.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Chris Powers]

It'll be interesting to see what happens because I know there's a big, like, kind of dumb controversy online about, like, Snape being, like, race swapped and.

[Sean Buffini]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Chris Powers]

The actress who plays Hermione is a little bit more racially ambiguous, I think. I don't really care, as long as it doesn't affect the story. I mean, can you imagine now the. The scene where James Potter is hanging Snape upside down underneath a tree? Are they gonna make that, like, a thing where, like, James is a little bit racist?

[Dan Powers]

It's not great. Yeah. It does not look good for the Marauders.

[Chris Powers]

Hermione's gonna be Mudblood, Right.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah. All so bad.

[Chris Powers]

Is that like the N word of the wizarding world?

[Dan Powers]

Yes. It's not great.

[Chris Powers]

I always wondered after. Cause didn't Bellatrix Lestrange, like, carve it in?

[Dan Powers]

She literally carves mud blood into her arm.

[Chris Powers]

Yeah. Do you think she, like, reclaims that in later life? She's like, what's good? Mud blood.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

Yes.

[Sean Buffini]

Dude, I can say it.

[Dan Powers]

You and Hermione.

[Sean Buffini]

That is so good.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah.

[Sean Buffini]

It actually is funny, Sean, that the. The. I've seen the whole cast list, I don't think. But, like, the two prominent roles they chose to race swap are the ones, the two people that get bullied the most in the whole show or in the whole book.

[Chris Powers]

Yeah.

[Sean Buffini]

Well, Neville.

[Chris Powers]

Neville Longbottom.

[Sean Buffini]

Doesn't. Neville.

[Chris Powers]

I always think Neville is like.

[Dan Powers]

No, but they get bullied for who they are. Well, for the term that is meant to mirror.

[Chris Powers]

Right.

[Dan Powers]

You know, it's not great. Yeah. I don't know why those decisions. I mean, listen. Can't wait. I think both actors are going to do a phenomenal job.

[Chris Powers]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

But it's just. Those are going to be tough scenes. Yeah. Navigate.

[Sean Buffini]

They'll navigate.

[Chris Powers]

Yeah. Snape is at least closer in age to what he should be in the books.

[Sean Buffini]

Yes. Which I love.

[Chris Powers]

He is like. Yeah. I'm trying to. Trying to think. I like that they went with the dreads as opposed to just trying to do like the. The Alan Rickman hair.

[Sean Buffini]

Yes. Like, literally wearing an Alan Rickman wig. Yeah. I'm like, okay.

[Chris Powers]

Because he would have. Yeah. I think that they just, like, make the character your own.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah.

[Chris Powers]

So I'm happy with that. Be interested to see how it plays out. As long as it doesn't change the theme. Like I said, with James Potter, hanging him upside down underneath a tree is gonna have a horrendous undertone if they decide to shoot that, like, scene for scene as they did in the. In the movie.

[Sean Buffini]

Dude, you almost have to.

[Chris Powers]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

You made your bed.

[Sean Buffini]

And in the Rings of Power, Lord of the Rings show, they are a bunch of the actors that are playing the dwarfs in the mountain are black and of color and everything. And in the movies, like, that was one of the big knocks. Like, literally everyone is white in this movie. But the Rings of Power is a prequel and someone tweeted that was like putting a bunch of black dwarfs in the Rings of Power implies a horrible event took place in the dwarf.

[Dan Powers]

A very horrific genocidal atrocity happened in this Middle Earth storyline.

[Sean Buffini]

Good point.

[Dan Powers]

We gotta think about these Things.

[Sean Buffini]

Folks in it, too. Like with the Valyrians, you know, 100%.

[Dan Powers]

It's like it's. Stop doing it in the prequels.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Dan Powers]

Just makes that. Yeah, it's really bad.

[Sean Buffini]

So. Good.

[Dan Powers]

Well, that rounds it out. That rounds out our unbelievable casting. Unbelievable casting.

[Chris Powers]

I hate to do a Harry Potter spin off podcast. We really do when we recap.

[Dan Powers]

God, I would have so much fun.

[Sean Buffini]

I mean, if they keep canceling the Bachelor, we're gonna have to.

[Dan Powers]

So we're just gonna start talking about this.

[Sean Buffini]

Actually, we should do. What? We should do the Potter show when it comes out.

[Chris Powers]

We should do that. Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

Oh, we'll definitely do that.

[Chris Powers]

Yeah.

[Sean Buffini]

Okay. I was. I went north of the border this weekend. I went north of the border, went up to Whistler for the first time. Had a great time. Incredible mountain. Incredible Vancouver, which I've never actually been to. And I just doesn't really count because I was just kind of driving in and out, but gorgeous. Absolutely. As advertised. It was insane. Couple highlights here. One Canadian bus drivers at Whistler. Very mean. It was crazy.

[Dan Powers]

You interacted with multiple.

[Sean Buffini]

Well, we were taking a bus to and from the mountain. There was like. It was like. It was two bucks. But, like, you know, you just. And they were. They were great.

[Dan Powers]

So these were mountain bus drivers?

[Sean Buffini]

Well, you'd think they'd be even nicer. No, Canadians are so nice. Everyone on a ski mountain is nice.

[Dan Powers]

Disagree with that.

[Sean Buffini]

Now you got to ski mountain bus drivers.

[Dan Powers]

You think people on ski mountains are nice?

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah, I leave my shit everywhere. I leave everything out. No one.

[Dan Powers]

Are you talking about employees or people who are there skiing? Either way, I disagree with you both. I think you run into really douchey lifties all the time.

[Chris Powers]

Lifties? Is that the term for people on ski?

[Dan Powers]

People who work on the chairlift? The chairlift.

[Chris Powers]

See, I'm too poor for this conversation. That's the problem. That's why no one steals stuff on the mountain.

[Dan Powers]

Everyone's rich. You got to stop saying stuff like that because people are starting to think that we're. We don't pay you.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

And I'm like, this is. You're right. Stop blaming me.

[Chris Powers]

$8 an hour is more than enough to survive in LA.

[Dan Powers]

Will you fucking say thank you for once? I think lifties can be really chill bras. Sometimes they're kind of like you, yuppie.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

Skiing all day while I'm working.

[Sean Buffini]

You ski. You ski all day.

[Dan Powers]

What I think. I think it's very hit or miss on the mountain. I also think Sometimes you run into a lot of those, like, douchey skiers, too.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah. So we had. I had a couple mean bus drivers. That was kind of surprising to me. And maybe I'll have to analyze more bus drivers on ski mountains, but in Canada, I think my expectations were just so high. I thought he was going to give me banana bread when I boarded, you know, Instead he was like, don't stand so close to the fucking sidewalk when I pull up. And I was like, oh, did he swear?

[Dan Powers]

Did he say.

[Sean Buffini]

No, they didn't say fucking.

[Dan Powers]

Oh, my God. I was like, that is actually hostile.

[Sean Buffini]

But they did say that. And it was like scolding a bunch of people. And we were like. We were standing at the bus stop. Like, where would you like me to stand? That's the bus stop.

[Chris Powers]

Your company placed the bus stop, sir.

[Sean Buffini]

Oh, my God. So that was crazy. Dan, you always say this, but so do I. More signage on ski mountains on the runs. It seems so insane to not just to have forks and then be like this. I'm like, where are we going? And they're like, I don't. I'm like, is this the way to that chair? Not a sign. No, nothing. This doesn't hurt the visuals at all. If there's a sign that's like, this way to this chair, this way to this chair. We took this epic. So at Whistler, there's two. Two mountains, Blackcomb and Whistler. And there's famously a peak to Peak Gondola, which is nuts because you're like, it's like a 13 minute gondola ride where you're the fucking half mile in the air. And that's wild.

[Dan Powers]

I don't think I like that.

[Sean Buffini]

Why a lot of people don't. Like, Keenan was like, I'm not riding that.

[Dan Powers]

Because he was like, sketched out by it.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

He's like, dude, I think my bigger issue is why would I do all of the work to get all the way up to a peak just to go across?

[Sean Buffini]

Well, cause you're skiing Blackcomb from 10 to 1. And then you're like, we should ski Whistler instead of having to ski all the way down and then back up you go. And there's also a Gandhi with a. Every like, fifth Gandhi has a glass bottom, so you can wait for that one if you want. So it's even crazier. So we took. We were also idiots. We were like, we're skiing Blackcomb, but we really wanted to ski this one run on Whistle, which is called Peak to Creek, where it's like the whole. It's like the longest run.

[Dan Powers]

Phenomenal name.

[Sean Buffini]

Yep. So we are skiing Blackcomb. Skiing Blackcomb. We get in line for the peak to peak gondola, take it so we can get to Whistler to ski peak to creek. As we take it, we get off and realize we were on Whistler the whole time. And we've now peaked to peaked to Blackcomb. Fuck.

[Dan Powers]

So that's genuinely actually super embarrassing.

[Sean Buffini]

It was unbelievable, Dan. So then we're like, oh, shit. So we skis a Blackcomb, go all the way down Gandhi, back up, and then we get to peak to creek and we ski it. And dude, there was actually great snow, but, you know, it's like it was a warm day. Whatever. The bottom. Not. Not that much. But the bottom quarter.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah.

[Sean Buffini]

Of peak to creek was literally all dirt. Melted snow.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah.

[Sean Buffini]

So, like, a bunch of us, my group, but also other people were skiing it. And then we all, like, everyone hammered the brakes. And I just looked down and is literally just a bare mountain. So we all had to unclick and walk down the rest of the run. And I was like, how is there no sign? That's like, there is no snow. Don't peak to creek.

[Dan Powers]

Don't take peak to creek.

[Sean Buffini]

Holy shit. That was insane. More signage. More signage on snow. And then just the final thought real quick, we went to Longhorn, which is like their big opera spot. It was sick. We had a table reserve. There's fucking champagne, spraying all kinds of madness. Great food, great drinks, great vibes. Everybody go there. And it was cool being in Canada because hockey's just on everywhere. I kind of forgot about that.

[Dan Powers]

Very good.

[Sean Buffini]

And then some people came up to me being like, dude, I love the pod. And I was like, oh, wow, that's awesome. Because that doesn't usually happen like random ski mountains, but in Canada it sure does. The third guy who saw me, I think his name was Andrew. He was incredibly nice, but I was pretty buckled by then and I kind of forget. So if your name isn't Andrew, I'm really sorry. But I think it was the first person who saw me was this girl named Nikki who was incredibly nice. Gave us some epic role runs to go on. Huge shout out and thank you, Nikki. The second person that came up to me was a guy named Mark. And he walks up and he goes, yo. And I can't tell if he's trying to, like, get my attention as a. Just a person who's like, I need to have something. And then I was on. I was like, On a table. So I stand, get down. I'm like, what's up? And he's like, yo, love the pod. And I was like, oh, thank you, dude. So much. And he goes, bought you a Julio Rojo Toro.

[Dan Powers]

Oh, my God.

[Sean Buffini]

And he had one for himself, dad. He had one for himself. Did he really? Yeah. He was like, I only drink these. When I heard you guys talk about on the pod, I tried one and now it's the only thing I drink. And every time I order it, people are like, dude, are you on blow? And he's like, no, I just. I drink Hulu.

[Dan Powers]

Do you know what this is?

[Sean Buffini]

Rojo Torres.

[Dan Powers]

No. Yeah. I was like, I think Sean might have. So where the fuck did I first have this?

[Sean Buffini]

I don't know.

[Dan Powers]

We were on a trip somewhere and I. We were just starved for energy and I ordered a. I was like, get a vodka red. I ordered it. Yeah. And I ordered a Don Julio Red Bull. And, you know, tequila's an upper.

[Chris Powers]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

So I ordered an upper liquor with an energy drink.

[Chris Powers]

And you sleep for three days.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah. But I was like, on the pod, I was just riffing and I was like, it was a Julio Rojo Toro and we just laughed our asses off. And now so many fans of the pod will come up to us and be like, we're drinking Julio Rojo Toros.

[Sean Buffini]

And I'm like, they'll get you going. Get the heart beat fast. So massive thanks to, I think, Andrew, Nikki, and Mark. And thank you for the Julio Rohtaro because that is exactly what I needed in that moment.

[Dan Powers]

That's good stuff. Cool. Okay, Sean, wrap us up here with a beer league hotline and then a blind ranking. Let's start with the Beerleigh hotline.

[Chris Powers]

Last night we were playing in a real chippy game. One of the refs told one of our players he was an R word when he was being a shit stirrer. We thought it was funny. Penalties were lopsided in the other team's favor. And in the last five minutes, the guy that called. The guy that was called an R word gets another penalty. On the way to the box, he says to the ref, you've been playing fucking tummy sticks with these guys all night for that gets a two game sussy for gross misconduct. The ref is claiming, he said, you've had cum in your ass all night. So now he's being punished for something he didn't even say. Do we call the league? Will they believe us?

[Sean Buffini]

Oh, God. Oh, my God.

[Dan Powers]

God. Tummy sticks to cumming your ass.

[Sean Buffini]

Hold on. Let me do it. Let me do it. You've been playing tummy sticks. You've been playing tummy sticks. I don't know how you get it.

[Dan Powers]

I don't hear it.

[Sean Buffini]

I don't hear it.

[Dan Powers]

I don't hear it.

[Sean Buffini]

I could hear tummy to cummy. I could hear tummy to cummy. Cummy dicks, maybe. Cummy dicks.

[Dan Powers]

Let's stop. Let's stop. I hate it when refs take it upon themselves to do shit like this.

[Sean Buffini]

Yep.

[Dan Powers]

I don't know why you're chirping this guy so heavily and then when he gets mad, you give him a two game sussy. But I'll also tell you that is a wild leap to go to friend.

[Sean Buffini]

Is there a chance. Is there a chance that the ref gave him the sussy and then was like, wow, I overreacted. I need to say he said something else. Like, is the reference making this lineup or do you think the ref really believed he heard this?

[Dan Powers]

I think. I think it would be so easy to retroactively remove it. I mean, he could just go to the league and be like, it's not a two game system.

[Sean Buffini]

Okay. You're already sticking to his guns here.

[Dan Powers]

I. Yeah. Which means. I think he thinks he heard what he said. Is there a. Is there a world where our. Our pal here did say you.

[Sean Buffini]

I didn't even think about this. I didn't even fucking think about this.

[Dan Powers]

I.

[Sean Buffini]

He did say you have confidence.

[Dan Powers]

Well, no, no, no, no, no. He might have, but the reason I think he didn't is because one, the way this reads, it feels like the guy who typed this out heard the chirp.

[Sean Buffini]

Oh, okay. Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

And two, not a good chirp to say you have come in your.

[Chris Powers]

I don't.

[Dan Powers]

That's not a good chirp. So I don't believe.

[Sean Buffini]

Weird thing to say.

[Dan Powers]

Weird.

[Sean Buffini]

How did the ref even get there?

[Dan Powers]

I don't know.

[Sean Buffini]

I don't know. And also he called you. I think if you're the ref. And I'm not even. Well, I'm not gonna get into this, but if you are the ref who called the same. This same man. Yeah. An R word earlier. I don't. I think you've lost the high ground. I think you've lost the high ground to sussy him for a chirp back.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah. This is okay. To answer the question, you have to fight this. I don't think you can there. You'll never win.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah. Because they go. The ref says what you said if

[Dan Powers]

the ref goes, he said it, he's toast.

[Sean Buffini]

I think maybe you could go to the ref, dude, he did not say that. I swear to God. Like, yeah, we were going at it that night, and I apologize, but he did not fucking say that.

[Dan Powers]

This.

[Sean Buffini]

Remove the suspension.

[Dan Powers]

This ref, given this entire story, feels like a guy who's not going to hear.

[Sean Buffini]

He's not going to remove that suspension. He might go want three weeks.

[Dan Powers]

Boom, you got it. Three.

[Sean Buffini]

Right there. Boom, dude. Four. Say something else. I could go all night. Four.

[Dan Powers]

I think you gotta wear this one.

[Sean Buffini]

And then what do you say to him the next time you're back and he's on the ice?

[Dan Powers]

Not a damn thing.

[Sean Buffini]

Really.

[Dan Powers]

Are you out of your mind? This guy's unhinged. You're a scumbag and you say that. He's going to say, I heard that. I've got cummin my face now.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah. So you're dead.

[Dan Powers]

Two more games. You just can't talk to this ref, dude.

[Sean Buffini]

I like though that he. What's the guy in wet hot American summer who like, hears Gene? He hears the wrong thing. Yeah, Gene hears the wrong thing, this ref.

[Dan Powers]

No, Gene. He doesn't hear. Gene says stuff.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dan Powers]

And then they go. Did you say you're gonna go fondle your sweaters?

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah. This is.

[Dan Powers]

No, I said I'm gonna do fondue with cheddar.

[Sean Buffini]

This ref is the inverse of Gene, where you could say anything to him. He hears awfulsome. And he hears you. You're gonna come in my face. Sick thoughts and have a nice day.

[Dan Powers]

You gotta be careful with this.

[Chris Powers]

The ref's mind is in the gutter.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah, definitely. This guy needs a sussy.

[Dan Powers]

You gotta be careful with.

[Sean Buffini]

This guy needs a suss.

[Dan Powers]

He doesn't even know his own thoughts. So you certainly can't be talking to him. Don't even look at him.

[Sean Buffini]

God.

[Dan Powers]

All right, let's round things out with a Bauer hockey blind ranking Bowers, the greatest company in the world, the greatest hockey gear in the world. We've got a new coach, so we're going to celebrate a fun blind ranking here. Jobs that John Tortorella could do if he wasn't a hockey coach.

[Sean Buffini]

And one is like our. We're like. That should be his job.

[Dan Powers]

One is the one where we're like this. Absolutely.

[Sean Buffini]

Okay.

[Dan Powers]

Okay.

[Chris Powers]

All right. DMV agent.

[Dan Powers]

Wow.

[Sean Buffini]

The reason I like it a lot, Dan, is because it's old school. There's nothing has changed in the DMV office in fucking 80 years. And torts. Torts doesn't like New age shit at all.

[Dan Powers]

I want to go five here. Five.

[Sean Buffini]

I want to go one.

[Dan Powers]

I want to go five here, because I don't think DMV clerks are motherfucking you.

[Sean Buffini]

Oh, they are.

[Dan Powers]

No, I think they're very dismissive. They don't have a lot to say. They barely make eye contact with you. Torts will give it to you.

[Sean Buffini]

I go like this. Here's my proof of address. And they go, this does not count. Fuck you go back in line.

[Dan Powers]

But no, they don't.

[Sean Buffini]

Mine do.

[Dan Powers]

No, they don't. And you know that I'm right. They do go, this doesn't work. But they never make eye contact. They're very dismissive. That's not Torts. He gets right in it with you. I won't go higher than four.

[Sean Buffini]

I need a three.

[Dan Powers]

Absolutely not. There's going to be so many good ones.

[Sean Buffini]

Okay, 4. This is a tragedy.

[Chris Powers]

4. Wow. Airport. TSA.

[Dan Powers]

5.

[Sean Buffini]

Really?

[Dan Powers]

What do you mean, really? What, What, What?

[Sean Buffini]

You must get the nicest DMV and TSA agents to.

[Dan Powers]

No, no, again, dmv. First of all, the DMV is worse than the people who work at the dmv. The DMV is.

[Sean Buffini]

Patrons at the DMV are. Are worse than the employees, but the

[Dan Powers]

employees are such dicks because of the environment they're in. And TSA agents, who's mean as a tsa, they're just also very. Here's the thing, man. I can't believe I'm doing this. I'm going to bat for TSA and dmv. The amount of idiots that are going through the airport every day and going through security. How many times do you have to see a TSA agent go like this? Please empty your pockets. Do not have a full beverage in your bag. And then 50,000 times a day, they watch people who walk through the metal detector with their phone in their pocket and they go, is your phone in your fucking pocket? And that person goes, yes, it is, in fact. And they go, well, why don't you fucking take it out like the 50 times I told you to before you would get mad, too.

[Sean Buffini]

I know, but that's what I'm saying.

[Chris Powers]

I'm so frustrated when I see people in front of me be surprised that they have to take their belt off or something?

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

Just told like a million times, Easy town.

[Chris Powers]

But I. I did. The one thing that gets me every time I go through TSA is airport to airport. Some airports, you take your laptop out. Other airports, put your laptop in and when you just ask. Because I always have to ask. If they haven't said it in their. Like, their spiel, that they're shouting out. And I go, laptop in or out? And without fail, they'll always look at me like I'm an idiot, being like, obviously, laptop in. It's been that way for 10 years. And I'm like, no, it's not. The airport just flew from to get here.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Chris Powers]

Had me take it out.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah, I'm with you very much there.

[Sean Buffini]

All I'd add, though, Dan, is. Cause I'm on your side. I think Torts, it could be because they are vocal and they're giving it to you, and Torts could fix it. Like, if it's Torts, he's like this, take your fucking water bottle out. And people go, you've swayed me.

[Dan Powers]

I'm. I'm into three.

[Sean Buffini]

Okay.

[Dan Powers]

I'm into three.

[Sean Buffini]

I think he's. He's the TSA agent we need.

[Dan Powers]

Okay.

[Sean Buffini]

Three.

[Dan Powers]

Three.

[Chris Powers]

Park ranger

[Dan Powers]

Five.

[Sean Buffini]

I think five park rangers are chill.

[Chris Powers]

I love park rangers.

[Dan Powers]

Me too.

[Sean Buffini]

Me too.

[Dan Powers]

Park rangers are, by and large, very.

[Sean Buffini]

Do you think Torts could chill if he became a park ranger? Could he be like, no, I think.

[Dan Powers]

I think Torch is the type of guy who tries to chill. He buys a cabin in the woods and sits on his deck, and then the second time something bad happens, he's like, you are kidding me. Yeah, because there's a beaver dragging a tree across my yard. He tries to enjoy nature.

[Sean Buffini]

I like how nature is. Is the old ways, though. Yes. There's nothing new here, you know, that's good. No. Michigan's in nature.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah. Five.

[Sean Buffini]

All right, Five.

[Chris Powers]

Motivational speaker.

[Dan Powers]

Pretty good.

[Sean Buffini]

Pretty good. Pretty good.

[Dan Powers]

Torch gives a good speech.

[Sean Buffini]

He's got the Vegas boys fired up already. Want to go metal. He's.

[Dan Powers]

He gives a good speech.

[Sean Buffini]

I would be willing to go one here for safety because we don't know.

[Dan Powers]

He's doing a Jordan Belfort style speech, too. Like, he's not being sweet and kind to you. He's not. What's his name? Tony Robbins?

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's.

[Dan Powers]

He's.

[Sean Buffini]

Yep.

[Dan Powers]

But he gets you fired up. Right.

[Sean Buffini]

Which is what I want from my motivational speaker.

[Dan Powers]

I think there's got to be something awesome coming.

[Sean Buffini]

Oh, really?

[Dan Powers]

Yeah.

[Sean Buffini]

I want. Okay, I'll risk it for the Biscuit.

[Dan Powers]

Two. Two.

[Sean Buffini]

Number one job that Torch should have.

[Chris Powers]

Wedding planner.

[Sean Buffini]

Hey, dude, I don't hate that. I don't hate that at all, dude. Do you think a single fucking speech would go Long. Or do you think a single thing would fall out of line?

[Dan Powers]

Actually so true. There'd be no lollygaging when it comes to picking cake flavors. No lollygagging when it comes to what flowers you want. He would keep you on time, on schedule. You're so right about the speeches.

[Sean Buffini]

Keep it moving.

[Dan Powers]

Torts would come out with a broom and sweep you off the stage, off the dance floor if your speech was going long. Torts.

[Sean Buffini]

I actually fucking love this now. The more I'm thinking about it. This is a perfect one.

[Dan Powers]

Yeah.

[Sean Buffini]

Wedding planner.

[Chris Powers]

I'm surprised you didn't have on my list of options to pick from. I'm surprised you didn't have like drill sergeant.

[Sean Buffini]

Drill sergeant. Drill sergeant. Honestly felt too obvious. There was a couple like. Because ChatGPT gave that list.

[Chris Powers]

Right.

[Sean Buffini]

And there was like drill sergeant or like, like trainer, like CrossFit coach. There are.

[Dan Powers]

I'm just looking at this. There are some unbelievable options here. Unbelievable. Like head chef. Golf course Marshall.

[Sean Buffini]

Golf course Marshall's hilarious.

[Dan Powers]

Movie directors.

[Sean Buffini]

Hilarious.

[Dan Powers]

But I listen. Wedding planner. I like it. John Tortorello wedding plan.

[Sean Buffini]

Yeah.

[Dan Powers]

Get married. Fuck stick.

[Sean Buffini]

Do you know if he laugh as a warehouse manager? Just the guy, you know, like there's like. There's so much shit going on in the warehouse. Legged. Everybody all right.

[Dan Powers]

Pretty good blind ranking there, but a really good episode that's going to wrap us up as always. Go give us five star review. Spotify, Apple, whatever. You can subscribe to the YouTube, follow us everywhere. We got some really great interviews coming out. Some more fun content coming all over the YouTube channel. Make sure you see it. We'll see you next episode. And until then, skate hard.

[Sean Buffini]

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[Dan Powers]

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[Sean Buffini]

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[Dan Powers]

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