How Did Nobody Tell Us Makar Is Actually Hurt?!

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Empty Netters Podcast - "How Did Nobody Tell Us Makar Is Actually Hurt?!"

Date: May 21, 2026
Hosts: Dan, Zach, Chris, Dennis
Main Theme:
A deep dive into the ramifications of Cale Makar’s mysterious injury on the Colorado Avalanche’s playoff hopes, broader playoff narratives, and plenty of trademark Empty Netters banter. Plus, the episode touches on Vegas’ goaltending, the "house of ghosts" in Carolina, and some of the best in-hockey and pop culture crossovers.

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Episode Overview

This episode centers around the surprising and vaguely communicated injury to Avalanche star Cale Makar, how his absence is destabilizing Colorado, and the broader implications for the NHL playoffs. The hosts combine sharp analysis with irreverent, frequently hilarious banter, exploring playoff matchups, player performances, playoff curses, and fan reactions. Notable segments include brainstorming hypothetical NHL rules, classic movie references, a viral fan T-shirt moment, and live reactions to breaking hockey news.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Avalanche and the Makar Mystery

• Opening Discussion [00:00-04:56]:
  The episode begins light, with Zach describing a wedding in Ecuador and joking about learning Spanish. The banter segues into playoff anxiety for Colorado fans as Dan asks, "Are you panicking? You're a Colorado fan, right?" [02:28]

• Makar’s Impact and Sudden Absence [03:32-07:06]:

  • Dan pivots to the real concern: Cale Makar’s unannounced absence for Game 1, and the media’s scrambling for answers.
  • Zach reads from an NHL.com article summarizing Colorado’s record without Makar: “38-20-8. And I was like, oh, so they're incredible still.” [04:44]
  • Both hosts agree: Colorado remains a "wagon" even without Makar but recognize how pivotal Makar is for deep playoff runs.

• Joking About Injury Transparency [21:24-25:35]:

  • The group spirals into dark humor about Makar's health:
    • "Has anyone considered the fact that Cale Makar is a dead man, that he's deceased?" – Dan [21:40]
    • “We’re identifying Cale Makar by his toe. Dental records.” – Zach [26:29]
  • They underscore that missing this much practice and gameplay means “you are very hurt.” [26:49]

2. The Absence of Stone vs. Makar—A "UNO Reverse" Debate

• Comparing Injuries [10:26-12:19]:
  • The boys brainstorm creating a playoff rule: if your top scorer is out, you should be allowed to remove a comparable player from the opponent’s lineup ("UNO reverse card").
  • Hilariously, it turns out Mark Stone (Vegas) and Makar (Colorado) are both third in team scoring, making the debate "even blood" [12:04].
  • Zach expands: “When a player goes out, you should go, okay, here's his D score, here's his shot score... you get to remove those, the same level of score from the other team in any way you want.” [14:25]

3. Key Player Performances & Playoff Trends

• Martin Necas/Brock Nelson Woes [16:24-20:22]:

  • Necas’s playoff consistency is questioned. “He doesn’t do anything in playoffs... 10 games, 11 points, but one tuck.” – Zach [17:23]
  • Brock Nelson’s similar struggles earn sympathy. “Daddy Brock left it all in Milan.” [20:31]

• Vegas’ Underrated Danger [19:45-20:52]:

  • The group warns, “Vegas is way better than people think,” despite mid-season narratives and injuries.

• The Carter Hart Revelation [37:28-40:24]:

  • Dan calls Carter Hart "the story of the playoffs":
    • “That is Conn Smythe shit right there.” [38:43]
  • Zach is amazed at Hart’s high volume and quality of playoff saves: “He does not care. That’s what’s crazy. Does not care.” [39:51]
  • Fan submits "Hoover Dam" as a Hart nickname—“He’s literally the Hoover Dam in Nevada blocking the Colorado River.” [51:42]

4. Playful Fan & Locker Room Culture

• T-Shirt & Meme Moments [07:39-08:07]:

  • Listeners jump in: “Dude, Where’s My Car?” morphs into "Dude, Where’s Makar?" as a possible t-shirt, with the hosts riffing on the absurdity of merch about star players’ injuries.

• Self-Awareness and Humility for AVS Fans [46:56-48:14]:

  • The group cautions Colorado fans: “It’s a dangerous game because this is your nightmare. If you lose in the Western Conference final, if you don’t even make it to the cup, this is your nightmare because of the yapping." – Dan [47:54]

5. News & League Updates [53:13-67:31]

• Potential New Jersey Trade Drama – Simone Nemech [53:13-54:23, 77:47-78:50]:
  • Rumors swirl about Simone Nemech wanting out, then are quickly debunked.
• The Ruck Twins Draft Scenario [56:48-62:26]:
  • Great draft analysis and comedic discussion around keeping twin prospects together in the draft, with parallels to the Sedin twins.
• Lindy Ruff Contract (Buffalo Sabres) [62:23-63:11]:
  • Praise for Ruff’s perseverance.
• NHL Wins Business Award [64:20-67:31]:
  • Gags about the NHL being declared “League of the Year” at the Sports Business Awards.

6. Preview: Carolina’s “House of Ghosts” and Eastern Final Pressure [74:11-end]

• Carolina Hurricanes’ Game 1 Curse [74:11-77:05]:
  • The hosts unearth that the Hurricanes have never won a Game 1 in the Eastern Conference Finals (0 for 6 in team history) [74:27].
  • Stakes are sky-high for this "prove you’re different" game: “If they lose tonight, they're the same old Canes, full stop.” – Zach [75:19]
• Montreal Canadiens’ Under-the-Radar Confidence [86:17-87:24]:
  • The Habs are "playing with house money”; all expectations are on Carolina, while Montreal just gets to ride their "aura".
  • “There’s zero pressure for this Montreal team… you are just fucking laughing.” – Dan [86:29]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Makar’s Absence:

  • “Has anyone considered the fact that Cale Makar is a dead man, that he's deceased?” – Dan [21:40]
  • “He is half. I bet half his body's paralyzed.” – Zach [21:25]

• On Fan Culture/Online Debate:

  • “Dangerous game because this is your nightmare. If you lose... this is your nightmare because of the yapping.” – Dan [47:54]

• On Hypothetical Playoff Rules:

  • “If a member of your team that's in the top, we're gonna call it 5 in points is out, you should be able to pull an UNO reverse card and remove someone on the other team.” – Dan [10:26]

• On Carter Hart:

  • “Carter Hart is now the Hoover Dam blocking the Colorado River.” – Zach [51:42]

• On Carolina's Game 1 History:

  • “The Carolina Hurricanes have never won a game one in the Eastern Conference final in their whole franchise.” – Dan [74:27]

• On Canes’ Playoff Burden:

  • “You are Bill Pullman in Casper. You're living in a house of ghosts.” – Dan [76:56]
  • “Bust those ghosts or they will bust on you.” – Zach [85:12]

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

• [03:32] - Initial focus on Makar’s injury and fan/media reactions
• [04:44] - Avalanche’s record without Makar, highlighting depth and concerns
• [10:26] - UNO reverse card playoff rule debate
• [16:24 & 20:22] - Playoff scoring woes: Necas and Brock Nelson
• [19:45] - Vegas’ strength & underrated status
• [37:28] - Carter Hart’s stats and impact
• [46:56] - Humble pie for AVS fans and call for toned-down confidence
• [51:42] - "Hoover Dam" nickname revelation for Carter Hart
• [53:13 & 77:47] - Simone Nemech trade rumor and quick debunk
• [56:48] - Ruck twins draft discussion
• [62:23] - Lindy Ruff contract news
• [64:20] - NHL wins League of the Year, and sponsor/award satire
• [74:27] - Carolina’s Game 1 curse statistics
• [86:17] - Montreal’s “house money” and “army of the dead” metaphors
• [89:33] - Montreal women’s team's Walter Cup win and "year of the double"

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Final Thoughts & Takeaways

Avalanche Outlook:

• Colorado remains extremely deep, but Makar's health is paramount for a Cup run.
• Fans are warned against overconfidence, especially as Vegas proves more formidable than regular season narratives suggested.

Vegas’ Hidden Strength:

• Carter Hart is emerging as a Conn Smythe-caliber goalie, keeping Vegas afloat during high-shot games.
• Vegas’ playoff pedigree, even with injuries, can't be ignored.

Eastern Conference Finals:

• All psychological pressure sits with the Hurricanes due to their playoff history and long layoff.
• Montreal, young and loose, is poised to play spoiler—the "army of the dead" narrative is a running gag but underscores their underdog menace.

Cultural Highs:

• Infectious banter, iconic movie references, and live fan engagement keep the episode both informative and entertaining—a signature of Empty Netters.

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Overall:
A must-listen for any serious (or not-so-serious) hockey fan: balances genuine insight, stats, and razor-sharp playoff analysis with the irreverence and chemistry that makes Empty Netters a hockey podcast mainstay.

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Transcript

[Dan]

Ice is ready. And we're back with another episode of the Empty Netters podcast, brought to you by BetMGM. And the abs are so cursed. They are so cursed.

[Zach]

Can I tell you an anecdote?

[Dan]

Always. Is it funny?

[Zach]

Yeah, it is.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Zach]

It was actually all time the wedding I was at in Ecuador. Everything was en espanol. The whole ceremony, all the bride speeches. No one could hear a fucking. No one understood a fucking word.

[Dan]

Do you know how to say wedding in espanol?

[Zach]

No.

[Dan]

Don't you do espanol lessons every day?

[Zach]

Except for eight years.

[Dan]

Why don't you stop doing that? They're clearly not doing shit.

[Zach]

We're not on wedding section yet, buddy.

[Dan]

No, like, if you genuinely are, like, I can't speak a lick and you for like eight years have been taking a fucking shito lingo lesson every day, you need to stop. It's like a waste of your time.

[Zach]

There's a wedding section I could see. Pretty soon a couple units away is a wedding unit. Great.

[Dan]

What would you say you can do if a cat crosses the road? You know how to say that? You probably don't even know how to say that.

[Zach]

No, I can say, no, no, not the road. But I can say, where. Hey cat, where's the bathroom? And hey, cat, where's the library? I can say those two things. But listen to me. The. The dad. The father of the bride does his father of the bride speech all in espanol. Whole this side of the room's enjoying it. Then he goes, okay, now I'm going to. And kind of broken English. He's like, I'm going to try to do one for the Americans.

[Dan]

Uh huh.

[Zach]

And he goes like resets the mic and he goes, howdy, folks.

[Dan]

Stop.

[Zach]

And dude, the howdy absolutely set me.

[Dan]

Dude, stop. This is. This is. He watched a bunch of westerns. Those are the only movies that were making it to public access in Ecuador.

[Zach]

Howdy.

[Dan]

So he was like, howdy, partners. He's seen Toy Story.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah. That's the only. That's how he learned English. Was watching Toy Story.

[Dan]

How do you say Toy Story in Spanish and espanol?

[Zach]

I don't know. I'm not on movie. I'm not in the movie.

[Dan]

Dude, we got to get. We got to get to wedding section then to movie section. Yep. Then you will be able to say the wedding was great. And then we watched Toy Story.

[Zach]

Oh, yeah.

[Dan]

And then we're laughing.

[Zach]

And then what else do you need? Then you're fluent.

[Dan]

What else do you need? What does Colorado Need.

[Zach]

They need. They need.

[Dan]

Are you panicking? You're a Colorado fan. Yeah.

[Zach]

Oh, yeah.

[Dan]

Okay. You're a Colorado fan.

[Chris]

Ready?

[Dennis]

Yeah.

[Dan]

You're panicking a little bit.

[Zach]

That's how I feel.

[Dan]

They are not comfy. And I'm not one to dance on graves.

[Zach]

Yes, you are. Oh, yeah.

[Dan]

When have I ever.

[Zach]

Last time I died, Actually, I did.

[Dan]

I was thinking about this the other day. By that, I mean yesterday when I said Calgary Flames fans were idiots if they thought they were getting a first round pick for Chris Tanev. I got flamed in the A couple of fucking Big J Calgary Journal buttholes were like, you tell me you've never seen Chris Tanev play. And then, wouldn't you know it, Chris Tanev did not go for a first round pick. And I then got on the Instagram and I drank wine in a lounge and you danced in everyone's face and I danced on Grace.

[Zach]

So you do that. So it sounds like you do do that.

[Dan]

Correct. I would say I'm not known for it, but I have been known to do it.

[Zach]

Yep.

[Dan]

Difference. Yesterday, when it felt as though it was certain that Kale was out, a couple of tweets went out saying, Kale not playing. And I was like, damn, this changes the series. And for some reason, some ABS fans were like, oh, everyone trying to turn nothing into something. And I was like, I think we're all just saying, oh, shit, it would be bad if Kale was out. Yeah. And it looked like it was bad that Kale was out.

[Zach]

Dude, can I give you this? This. There's an article on NHL.com that says, headline is Avalanche out of sorts without Makar in game one against Golden Knights. And if you click on it, there's a couple funny, funny tidbits in here. One, it says McCarr had not practiced since the game against The Wild on May 13, missing three on ice sessions. But as of last Tuesday, coach Jared Bednar expressed optimism that Makar would play. When he couldn't go, things got a bit messy. And then it puts up a graphic and it says, the Avalanche record without cale Makar since 2019.

[Dan]

Yeah, this is a good one.

[Zach]

38, 20 and 8. And I was like, oh, so they're. They're incredible still. Yeah, like, it was like, without Makar. It's very messy. Here's their record without him.

[Dan]

There's still. There's still a wagon.

[Zach]

This. This is sharp, Dan. I don't want to sewer who wrote this, but this is sharp action right here. Sewer them. It says.

[Dan]

It says Wait, tell me who it was.

[Zach]

No, it says Colorado was 8 and 1 this postseason with Makar in the lineup. It's oh, and one with him missing.

[Dan]

Oh, that is dialed in stuff. That is a.

[Zach]

Someone tweeted that they might get swept.

[Dan]

Someone tweeted that.

[Zach]

If I'm looking at the data here,

[Dan]

you're telling me that someone we know tweeted that.

[Zach]

Look at the data.

[Dan]

That's fucking.

[Zach]

And now, Dan, they are going to get swept because the Avalanche, it's just like.

[Dan]

That is good.

[Zach]

It's just like the Mammoth, the home playoff record after one game, undefeated at Delta Center.

[Dan]

Sometimes when you see someone go the extra mile and do a little bit of research, to be able to pull out some good stuff like that, it's special. Without Makar, Facts of the matter are, when Cale's not in the lineup, they can't win in these playoffs.

[Zach]

Yep. I also want to say this, Dan. Hold on, Jonas. It's really funny that if I can find it. That made me laugh. But I'm going to go back and look. But two minutes for roughing says Vegas has no Petrangelo and no Mark Stone.

[Dan]

I don't.

[Zach]

Everybody fucking chill.

[Dan]

Well, I don't. I reject the Petro one.

[Zach]

Well, no, they've been living with it all year, but. But it's a. It's a massive factor.

[Dan]

No, it's not.

[Zach]

Oh, yeah, it is.

[Dan]

No, it is not. They didn't have him all year. It's not like they were once something and now they're not. That thing.

[Zach]

Yeah, they were watching last year.

[Dan]

Alex Petrangelo will never play hockey again.

[Zach]

Correct. I'm not even. Beer league.

[Dan]

We. Dude, look at this. Look at this. Look at that. Yep. Watch. That's. That's Alex Petrangelo's rump riding on down the road. Dude. Kiss it goodbye. Wave it goodbye. Petro. Petro ain't walking through that door.

[Zach]

Correct.

[Dan]

So anyone.

[Zach]

Any.

[Dan]

Any Vegas fan being like, well, we don't have Petro. That is crazy. Well, I will accept that. We don't have Stone.

[Zach]

Yes. For sure. But I also want to say every ABS fan did that for the last three years.

[Dan]

We don't have Landy because Landy was coming back.

[Zach]

No, no. I think your take. Your. First of all, you're correct about Petro bumping that rump down the road, but your take is that he was not part of your team. You do. You haven't had him all year. You know you're not going to have him. It's fine. So that's Great. Wow, that is so good, Darren. Darren goes, dude, where's my car?

[Dan]

Oh, my God.

[Zach]

That is one of the great. Did you make that up? Did you steal that? Darren, did you steal that?

[Dan]

Oh, my.

[Chris]

That's incredible.

[Zach]

Darren. Darren, where did you get that?

[Dan]

Dude, where's my car?

[Zach]

Darren, where did you get that? Dude, that is insane.

[Dan]

That is.

[Zach]

So Evan is printing the T shirt.

[Dan]

I mean, like, literally, Darren, you get.

[Zach]

Darren, you get nothing. We're making T shirts and you get nothing. I don't know who. But thank you.

[Dan]

Who would buy that shirt? Because as an ABS fan, like, you're. You're really bummed out that he's not in. Imagine celebrating a player's injury with a Dude wears Makar shirt.

[Zach]

But, dude, no dude. Dan. Dan Bednar should wear that at the next game.

[Dan]

Can you imagine how funny?

[Zach]

Yeah. What first.

[Dennis]

Like, my first memory of Blockbuster was seeing Dude, Where's My Car in the Blockbuster.

[Zach]

Like, you. Like you saw that?

[Chris]

Your first memory isn't seeing that in the dumpster as they were tearing down Blockbusters.

[Dan]

Wait, when you said seeing dude, where's My Car in a Blockbuster, are you saying it. You saw, like, the DVD case? I thought he was saying he saw a screening of dude, where's My Car inside a Blockbuster.

[Dennis]

Not that far.

[Dan]

You know what? Actually, when I was growing up, when we would all get jobs, our first jobs at, like, 13, 14, there was a video store called Stop and Go Video, and a couple of my friends worked there, and there was a TV in the corner, and one of my friends who worked there, shout out Brian. He was a big movie guy, like me, and he would just all day put on, like, his.

[Zach]

Yeah, you got to pick. Yeah.

[Dan]

New movies. And I would occasionally go to Stop and Go Video and just, like, sit in a chair in the corner and, like, chat with him and eat the candy that they sold, and we'd watch, like, full movies. Yeah, I went to a video store to watch movies with my friend.

[Zach]

But that actually makes sense because you're getting it for free.

[Dan]

It was kind of cool. It felt like something from a 90s movie.

[Zach]

Yeah. We should actually write this. We need to leave right now.

[Dan]

Just what happens. We just watch movies in a video store. No, no.

[Zach]

We need to go write that movie.

[Dan]

Yeah. I'm saying in the movie.

[Zach]

Yes.

[Dan]

Well, it doesn't feel like there's a lot of conflict.

[Zach]

Well, you just said it sounded like a 90s movie.

[Dan]

I.

[Zach]

So let's make it.

[Dan]

You know what? You got me.

[Zach]

You did just say that.

[Dan]

I'm Back in. This movie's gonna be sick.

[Zach]

I know.

[Dan]

It's gonna be an instant classic.

[Zach]

There'll be a cameo from Zach, and he walks in, he goes, oh, dude, where's my car? And then leaves. Yeah. That's awesome.

[Dan]

Wyatt would do that.

[Zach]

Yeah, he would.

[Chris]

He's already got the. The everybody wants them vibe, which is very similar.

[Dan]

That is true. That is true. Listen, I think the patrangelo argument does not hold water. The Stone one does. And I was actually going to go into this game thinking we should institute a rule in playoffs, not regular season. Yep. In playoffs, if a member of your team that is in the top, we're going to call it 5 in points is out with an injury, you should be able to pull an UNO reverse card and remove someone on the other team, whoever is. So, like, let's say, what is Kale? Probably. He's probably a second, as in power ranking. How many points does he have on the ABs? Oh.

[Zach]

Oh. I'll tell you.

[Dan]

Look up the ABs team points if. Let's say Kale is second in points.

[Zach]

Regular season or playoffs?

[Dan]

Regular season.

[Zach]

Okay. The Avalanche points in the regular season. Kale Makar or. No, he's not second.

[Dan]

Third.

[Zach]

Marty Naches is second.

[Dan]

Marty.

[Zach]

Yeah, that's it. Kale Makar, third.

[Dan]

So I think that they should be able to pull a UNO reverse and remove whoever on Vegas is third in points on their team from the lineup until he's back.

[Zach]

Dude, I'm very into this, but I actually think.

[Dan]

Gotta keep it fair.

[Zach]

You're leaving some meat on the bone. Oh. You know who's third?

[Dan]

Mark Stone.

[Zach]

Mark Stone.

[Dan]

So my idea is perfect.

[Zach]

It's flawless.

[Dan]

Did I plan that? No. And look at that. It's a perfect idea. So I think what we can say here, folks, is this is even blood. The Vegas Golden Knights are better than the Colorado Avalanche.

[Zach]

Yes.

[Dan]

Because the kale injury is perfectly equivalent for how it fits on the team to Mark Stone being out. So we are. It is even. And Vegas won.

[Zach]

I think, Dan, this should be. I love the idea. And I think instead of just being one for one points, it should go like this. Everyone should have skills. I've been reading Dungeon crawler Carl, so I'm deep into, like a skills, a skill point.

[Dan]

Did you just say dungeon crawler Carl?

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Dan]

What the fuck is that?

[Zach]

It's a new. It's a fantasy book series.

[Dan]

Why am I not reading it?

[Zach]

You should be. You will love it.

[Dan]

Really?

[Zach]

Oh, yeah.

[Dan]

Is it hard fantasy?

[Zach]

No.

[Dan]

You're telling me this book is called Dungeon crawler.

[Zach]

Dungeon crawler.

[Dan]

Carl, what happens in this series? And is there a guy crawling around in dungeons? Yes. Why is he crawling?

[Zach]

It's what we call it. That's how you call moving through the video game.

[Dan]

Oh, that is sick.

[Zach]

You're a crawler.

[Dan]

Wait, why do you keep saying video game? Is it a video game?

[Zach]

Kind of. Not very. Yeah, kind of.

[Dan]

Do you not want to tell me?

[Zach]

No, I'll tell you. Do you want to hear about it?

[Dan]

No, no, no. I want to read it.

[Zach]

Okay. In that game and similar Dan to Pokemon, you have skills and attributes, right? Like shot. The shot is this. Defense score is this. Whatever.

[Dan]

I feel like a fucking idiot.

[Zach]

You spill that?

[Dan]

No, I've been just trying to drink my drink, and there's ice in my drink, and it's like, nothing's coming out. And I was like, oh, dude, an ice cube keeps getting lodged in the opening, and it's just like. I accidentally just closed the opening.

[Zach]

Oh, it was classic open, close. The classic open, close. Now it's perfect. That's why you go. That's why you go. No lid. No lid.

[Dan]

That is crazy work by you. Why don't you just drink out of a glass?

[Zach]

Well, here's the thing. The lovely, lovely.

[Dan]

Oh, they keep washing your shit.

[Zach]

Takes the shit off my desk, and then it's in the fucking kitchen. And then now the top is gone, and I'm like, what the? Where's the top, dude?

[Dan]

What the.

[Zach]

Anyway, in Dungeon Caller Carl, and in Pokemon, you get attributes. Shot boost, skating boost, skill boost, defense boost. When a player goes out, you should go, okay, here's his D score, here's his shot score. Here's his blank, blank, blank. You get to remove those, the same level of score from the other team in any way you want. So if it's a one for one, sweet. It's one player. But you can also be like, give me these three guys. I want all these three guys out. And they only have a three on the D score, each of them. But then that equals a nine, which is Makar's D score. You get to eliminate the D score by being like, oh, my car's out. I'm taking out these three guys.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Do you prefer that or the points point? One for one.

[Dan]

I like the one for one because it adds in some drama. Okay, but I really.

[Zach]

But something. Someone's coming out.

[Dan]

I really like that someone's coming out. But, yeah, listen, we're uno reversing, and this is the. The hockey gods doing a perfect reverse. It's even blood.

[Zach]

Let me tell you this, Dan. You asked me if I was scared, if I was an ass fan.

[Dan]

Yes.

[Zach]

When the Rantin Jubilee took place, which is what I call the two weeks run of everyone getting traded to 50 fucking different teams all at once. Did you close it again?

[Dan]

I. It closed on me.

[Zach]

Oh, that's its job, Dan. It wants to close.

[Dan]

I shouldn't have to open every time I drink.

[Zach]

I don't know. Listen, when the. When the rant and jubilee happened and everybody said who everyone was weighing who came out on top of and ABS fans, a lot of ABS fans. A lot of the Internet was going, dude, Naches is younger. Right? Like or something. I think he's like a bit younger and was on a better contract and is going to give you the same production. Especially when he's playing with someone like Nate. And then he's done that. Right. And everyone said, look at him go.

[Dan]

Good God, is Nate just 100 points this year.

[Zach]

First time in his career. Incredible fucking season. Incredible season. Every single Canes fan and I know we always have Canes fans in this chat, so please back me up here. Every single Canes fan said one thing when it happened and obviously you're going. They were excited when they got written and for a moment in time. So they're. But they're trying to be happy. But they all said one fucking thing which was Martin, Nate just disappears in playoffs. Enjoy him in the regular season. He doesn't do anything in the playoffs. And I'll give you his playoff performances for Carolina. 8 games, 4 points, 11 games, 5 points, 14 games, 5 points. 15 games, 5 points, 11 games, 9 points. That one was.

[Dan]

Oh, that was great.

[Zach]

Solid. Doesn't do anything in playoffs this year, Dan. Or sorry. I'll give you last year for Colorado. Seven games, five points, but one goal this year, Dan. 100 point regular season, 38 goals regular season.

[Dan]

He's an incredible player.

[Zach]

10 games, 11 points, but one tuck. So it's like thank you for the points but I'm like, you had 40 goals.

[Dan]

I. Yeah, I want more goals. Yep. But he's over point per game and I think that's great. Wait.

[Zach]

Yeah, this maybe sometimes a reference is a game behind. So he might be 11.

[Dan]

Well, no, because they've played. This is their 10th game.

[Zach]

Oh yeah. Yeah, it is. So they caught up. Yeah. Yeah. So he's over a point per game, one goal.

[Dan]

Yeah. I'd want more. I have. I got nothing bad to say about

[Zach]

Marty Natures Cane's fan saying he doesn't Score any goals in playoffs.

[Dan]

And I think. Well, I mean, they're statistically correct.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So. Yeah.

[Zach]

Maybe.

[Dan]

Maybe get a couple more tucks. You had 38 goals. You can get. I'd like that to be three or four.

[Zach]

Yeah, you would like.

[Dan]

Yeah, I'd like to be three.

[Zach]

You'd like that to be three or 4? I'd like to be three, big time. You know who else, Dude. Actually.

[Dan]

So, yeah. Marty's got to get going.

[Zach]

I don't even want to even look this up because this might scare me.

[Dennis]

Yeah.

[Dan]

That.

[Zach]

I hate this. I don't want to tell you what I just saw.

[Dan]

Yeah. I think the. The whole Kale thing being out. Yep. Is obviously a big topic. And Stone being out too. So, like, Vegas fans, don't worry. I know everyone in Vegas is being like, stone is out too. That. The. The point of me bringing this up is that I'm like, they are right.

[Zach]

Y.

[Dan]

Stone's out. Kale's out. I don't think. Obviously, different positions, but you have your number three point scorer. Your number three point scorer. They're both out. I think the big thing here is.

[Zach]

Okay, keep going. I have something to say about that.

[Dan]

If I'm an AVS fan, I'm not tweaking. It's a loss. Whatever. You lost one to Minnesota. You. You figured it out. You heard Nate after the game talking about execution. He was like, we're not executing. We're not.

[Zach]

You know, we did.

[Dan]

He's like.

[Zach]

Goes like this. The better team lost. We all saw who the better team was today.

[Dan]

Did he say that? Yeah. Did he say that? I was like, what? I didn't see that. Cuz that would have been wrong.

[Zach]

Nate, you got. That's what they say every time. That's what he says every time.

[Dan]

Well, he was like. He was like. I just said execute. Like five. He kind of like, snapped at a reporter. If I'm an AVS fan, if I'm the team, I'm not tweaking. Whatever. You lost the game. You got outplayed, too. You got outplayed.

[Zach]

Yes.

[Dan]

And the one thing I will say is this game. And does this mean the ADS can't win in five still? No. But Vegas is way better than people think. We talked about it with Marty in our preview episode. Everyone wanted to shit on the Pacific all year long. Vegas is way better than people think.

[Zach]

Mr. Jupiter says. This is what I just looked up. And I said, I don't even want to tell you this. Mr. Jupiter says he's way more concerned about Brock Nelson than nature's. And Brock, dude. 33 and 32 for 65 in the regular season.

[Dan]

Perfect hockey player.

[Zach]

Yep. Two one. Two goals, one assist, three points in 10 games.

[Dan]

Yeah, that's not.

[Zach]

Is he just tired? He's too tired, Dan.

[Dan]

He's.

[Zach]

He's. He's been. He won an Olympic. Simmons is old. He's old. He's tired.

[Dan]

I think Brock. Daddy Brock, he left it all in Milan. Daddy Brock left it all out there. But Daddy Brock's also like. I think Daddy Brock's doing a bit of isolation, too. Like, he's shutting down teams. And if he's doing that, that's okay. Yep. But, yeah, now we're in a. Now we're in a. We're in a battle.

[Zach]

We're in a dog fight. Here's. Here's Dan, why you are scared? Because Makar is clearly in shambles. Like, normally, he would be hurt, and then. But he'd be playing, and there wouldn't even be a. There wouldn't even be a questionable tag on him. He would just be suiting up every game with, no, we wouldn't even know. And then later, they would go like this. McLar's shoulder was dislocated that whole run. And I'll go, oh, wow. The fact that he's actively missing practice, actively getting questionable tags, and then now missing games.

[Dennis]

He is.

[Zach]

He is half. I bet. I bet half his body's paralyzed.

[Dan]

And how many days have they had off, too?

[Zach]

He's been out since May 13th.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Has not touched the ice since May. Dan, he might be dead. Has anyone even seen him?

[Dan]

Has anyone considered the fact that Cale Makar is a dead man, that he's deceased?

[Zach]

Which would be a tragedy.

[Dan]

That would be terrible.

[Zach]

I think there's a legitimate chance that Cale is in the hospital.

[Chris]

Well, listen, we have a location on him. You want to see it?

[Zach]

Okay.

[Chris]

Yeah, take a look.

[Zach]

Too deep.

[Dan]

Okay, confirmed. We have him. He's been found. He's with several beautiful ladies, a dog, and he's holding a steering wheel. Interesting. Maybe driving to a hospital.

[Zach]

The premise of that movie is they forget where they parked their car. Is that right?

[Chris]

They.

[Dan]

They wake up the next morning, hungover, and they walk outside, and he's like, dude, where's my car? And he's like, where's your car, dude? And then they start going to look for their car, and they retrace their steps on a crazy, wild night that they had.

[Zach]

It's actually a genius prep.

[Dennis]

This is.

[Chris]

I think this is, like, you every Weekend.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah. This is Jeep. This is the Von's. Yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

Jennifer Garner showing up at the Von movie.

[Zach]

Is that true?

[Dan]

People forget that. God damn right. That's Jennifer Garner.

[Chris]

Right?

[Dan]

That's one of his girlfriends.

[Chris]

Is she the dog or is she the woman on the right?

[Dan]

I think she is one of the girlfriends on the right.

[Zach]

They have girlfriends?

[Dan]

Yes.

[Zach]

Good for them. Nice wheel.

[Dan]

Their girlfriends are incredible. They're like. They hold. They're the glue. They hold everything together.

[Chris]

Jennifer Garner and Kristy Swanson.

[Zach]

Wow.

[Dan]

Look at that.

[Zach]

That's a great pull. Yeah. I think there's a chance, Dan, that he is in the hospital and no one knows.

[Dan]

You know what's funny is I'm going to bring up Zoltar later in this episode. Yeah. And that's Zoltar from big. And what's funny is whenever I say Zoltar, I think Zoltan.

[Zach]

Me too.

[Dan]

And I can't believe that organically. Dude, where's my car? Came up in this episode. How crazy is that?

[Zach]

That actually is insane like that.

[Dan]

I mean, truly, man. This is when the synapses are firing and connecting.

[Zach]

Poison Ivy says. People used to tell me I looked like the lead alien girl in that movie.

[Dan]

And your. Your alias on YouTube is now poison Ivy. It feels like something stuck, babe. Yeah. Feels like.

[Zach]

If you get.

[Dan]

Feels like that God in your head is someone. That's also a massive compliment.

[Zach]

Yeah, right. That. I think so.

[Dan]

Is that lead alien a fucking babe alien?

[Zach]

Oh, it's at the.

[Dan]

Like at Zoltan's place.

[Zach]

Yeah, Right? Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Like a real alien.

[Dan]

Sounds like you're a fucking rocket. Poison Ivy. Congratulations.

[Zach]

That's amazing, dude. So just to be clear, there's a real alien in the car.

[Dan]

I'm imagining that Zach and Evan are watching. Dude, where's my car right now?

[Zach]

There's a real.

[Chris]

Yeah, the stream has been dead. Yeah, yeah, the stream has been dead for several minutes.

[Dennis]

Yeah, we're full in. Dude, where's my car?

[Zach]

Dude, there's a super. Her name is super hot Giant Alien. So brats.

[Dan]

There is like a big alien in that movie.

[Zach]

Yeah, I forgot that there's a real alien. How did we get there like that? I have to rewatch this movie.

[Dan]

That's really funny.

[Dennis]

I thought you've run into an alien.

[Dan]

I'm pretty sure Christy Swanson's name in that movie is Christine Boner.

[Zach]

No. That's incredible.

[Dan]

Yeah, I think that's like a plot point. Like they're like, your name's Boner. Like I'm Pretty sure they say that. Do we need to watch Dude Wears?

[Zach]

Yes. I can't believe it.

[Dan]

Yeah. Christy Boner.

[Zach]

I cannot believe this. Dude.

[Dan]

Wow.

[Chris]

We. We used to be a proper country with proper films.

[Dan]

Tell me about it, pal. Should we keep talking about, dude, where's my car? Or.

[Zach]

I think so.

[Dennis]

Yeah. It's time to go back.

[Zach]

Natchez, gone. Brock Nelson, gone. Makar in a wheelchair. So how do you.

[Dan]

Makar is literally saying his last words to his family. This is a hospital bed saying goodbye to his loved ones.

[Zach]

Yep.

[Dan]

So I think when they swept LA in the sleepiest series of all time. And then after game three, it looked like we were going to be in a barn burner with Minnesota. And then it was like, actually, you're dead in five. When all of these guys weren't scoring and didn't have points, it didn't matter because you have. You have won. You have got through two series and nine games. Who cares? But now you lose game one, and now you're going, Marty, Brock, it would be lovely if you showed up to the saloon. It'd be lovely if you grabbed a stool, because it's either get in the fight.

[Zach]

Yeah, get in the fight. Marissa goes. Makar is in the morgue.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Makar has a fucking toe tag on. We're identifying Cale Makar by his toe. Dental records.

[Dan]

All kidding aside. All kidding aside. You do. You do look at the time off since the 13th, and you're still not playing.

[Zach]

That's what I'm saying.

[Dan]

You're kind of like, oh, wait, you're not questionable. You are very hurt.

[Zach]

Yes.

[Dan]

And the same goes for.

[Zach]

As is Mark Stone.

[Dan]

Same goes for Stone. He's had less time off. But he missed like.

[Zach]

No, he's actually had more. I think he was out even before Makar was.

[Dan]

Stone is dead, too.

[Zach]

And Dan Stone is the Grim Reaper. Mark Stone is. Is. He's hurting. Like, we need him back. We need him back. And no one's talking about it. It does. I don't like it.

[Dan]

No one is.

[Zach]

No one's speaking it into existence.

[Dan]

Everyone's dead.

[Zach]

But maybe dead. Maybe there. Maybe Vegas is just a little bit more sneaky. Sneaky than Colorado. Colorado is kind of being out there. They're going to. They're going. Yeah, Cale's fine. He's skating. He's gonna play. It's all good. Everything's okay. And then he doesn't play, and that's kind of weird. But Mark Stone, you don't get a whiff of him. No one has Seen him. No one knows if he's doing anything. No one knows what his real name is. I don't even believe that's his real name.

[Dan]

It's not. There's no chance. Do you think. Who do you think comes back in the series first?

[Chris]

Wow.

[Zach]

Petrangelo. I think. I think Mark Stone comes back first. I think Makar is in. Is in shambles. I. Yeah, Bednar literally said he was going to play in game one, so I could be way off as he was like, I think he's going to play. And then he just didn't. It really could have been a game, game, game time. But I just think he. He's in trouble, dude. I think he's in trouble.

[Dan]

Oh, okay. Here's a question. If Mark Stone comes back in game two and Kale is not back, are you peeing down your leg a little bit?

[Zach]

If you are caller 1000%.

[Dan]

Something to think about.

[Zach]

You know why too.

[Dan]

You know, something to think about and something to prepare.

[Zach]

You know what else, Dan? Here's the other reason, pal friendo is the doc made the trip. The doc worked Doctors Without Borders, dude. Doctors Without Borders, he went to Colorado. People thought maybe he could only fucking practice in Las Vegas. Doctors Without Borders, he goes right into Denver and goes, put a fucking patient down on the operating table. Watch me remove his spleen effortlessly. Then he did.

[Dan]

You're talking about Doc Marner? Yeah, yeah. He is the best player in these playoffs, dude.

[Zach]

So many people. I can't remember if it was our pod or one of the lies, but so many people in the comments were like, yeah, dude, wait. Oh, Marner showed up for the playoffs in the first time. Wait till he plays the Aves. Wait till it gets tough. Then you'll see. Then you'll see the little Mickey Mouse disappearing act. And I go, dude, this mouse. This mouse attacks you. Dude, this mouse sets a human trap. Fuck you. He's the doctor and he goes anywhere.

[Dan]

Did you see how surgical he was with that pass?

[Zach]

Yes.

[Dan]

It was insane. He's also just. I mean, his numbers across the board are preposterous. It's fucking. It's ridiculous what he's doing. And this is just. It's really sad when you see someone succeeded and then it also means that someone is in misery.

[Zach]

What do you mean? Just the other team.

[Dan]

I don't think that the city of Toronto can recover from this.

[Zach]

Me neither, but I can't believe that's making you sad.

[Dan]

No, well, I mean, you never want to see a city fall apart.

[Zach]

Dude, you aren't supposed to be able to make this pass. Look at this pass. And I actually have a theory about it, Dan. I wonder if you believe me. Wedgwood, I think the actual answer is he just doesn't see Scorfiev right there.

[Dan]

I think it's really funny that Nate. Is that Nate or is that o'

[Zach]

Connor that's running him?

[Dan]

Yeah, I think it's o'. Connor.

[Zach]

He fucking murders and Martin, dude, I love the team. Just goes to celebrate. And Marner's on the grass in the corner.

[Dan]

He's in the morgue with Kael.

[Zach]

Yeah, dude.

[Dan]

But fortunately he's a doctor, so he's able to fix himself.

[Zach]

Yeah, he's got healing potion. Here's my theory.

[Dan]

He.

[Zach]

When he gets that stick around and he's beginning to make the forehand pass, Wedgwood is starting to push across because he's like, the only pass he can make is across me. He certainly can't hook his forehand all the way up there. So Wedgwood's moving, right? Because he's like, where's that pass going? And then the pass goes right here to Scorpio, who fires at home. And Wedgwood's like, wait, how did you get the puck from your forehand right there to behind you? It was insane, dude. He looked like fucking Stretch Armstrong. It was like anything. Go anywhere he wants with that thing.

[Dan]

I mean, he's, he's so he's in flow state, right?

[Zach]

Yes, he is.

[Dan]

And I, I, I'm, I'm sad because Toronto is a lovely city and there's good people in Toronto. And they are, they are now going to be removed from their homes. Yeah, they're going to be relocated. They're going to be put in district 10. Now that sequel we've been waiting for, for, for like 15 years, it's coming and it's going to be District 10, the destruction of Toronto.

[Zach]

Dude, who does Matthews turn into a fucking. What are those guys called again?

[Dan]

Prawns.

[Zach]

Prawns.

[Dan]

Yeah. Feels racist.

[Zach]

Oh, it's 100% racist. It's about apartheid.

[Dan]

It is about apartheid.

[Zach]

People forget that Matthews turns into a prawn. Dude.

[Dan]

Well, he's going to be gone by then.

[Zach]

Yeah, he'll be long gone. Willie.

[Dan]

It's going to be like. Willie. Yeah. Yeah. Which is like.

[Zach]

And then we also. Did we see, like, we see a dude, we see a prawn, but with like a blue jersey on, running around making flowers like, holy shit, is that Willy?

[Dan]

Is that Willy Nylander? It'll be. He'll be. He's going to be selling bootleg Swedish candy in the streets. Where do they get relocated to, though?

[Zach]

I don't know.

[Dan]

Maybe Oklahoma City.

[Zach]

Hamilton?

[Dan]

There's already aliens there. Oh, okay.

[Zach]

No, no, San Antonio.

[Dan]

What? Yeah, sorry. San Antonio.

[Zach]

Oklahoma City.

[Dan]

Well, no, he was in Oklahoma City because they're playing in Oklahoma City. But they're going back to San Antonio.

[Zach]

Yeah, they're going back.

[Dan]

I. I'm just sad. I'm sad for the people of Toronto because this is. I mean, listen, I'm sitting here loud and proud, wearing my Chelsea kit, even though it's the worst day ever because Arsenal are champions. Yeah.

[Zach]

Sad.

[Dan]

So sometimes you have to fight through the storm, and that's what Toronto fans need to do. But this is a bad look for all the shit you talked.

[Zach]

Oh, my God, dude.

[Dan]

Now it's like, oh, it turns out all he needed was just an actual team and teammates who care and are going to fight, and ownership and coaches and GMs who are going to fight.

[Zach]

Toronto wasn't fighting, Dan. The. I want to talk about this too. The. The abs. Even though it was. Even though. Resulted in an incredible goal by Landy after one of the most diabolical cutbacks in the corner by Nate on that power play. I forget who that might have been. Theodore. Actually, no, I think he was in the box. I forget who was playing D on Nate there, but Nate sent, you know, in the. You know, the. The Datsuk Shootout goal, the famous one, like the first time he Datsuks and I think it's Vocoon.

[Dan]

It is. He left vocoon on 4th street.

[Zach]

Yeah, and they go. He. He left Volkun on 4th Street. That's what Nate did to whoever that defenseman was in the corner. Quite literally. He put him on fucking 4th street and then cuts to the net and gives feeds. Landy goal. Incredible goal. Made it very interesting. 3, 2. The AVs pulling their goalie there. They get the peeper. They pull their goalie. And then I was texting you a bunch of guys going, what do we think about the goalie poll? And we were all kind of like, you don't need this. And then obviously they immediately score, so whatever. But the Aves are. Should think we are way better than Vegas.

[Dennis]

We're talking about the third goal, right?

[Zach]

The. The goal that made it. Three, two. Okay, that's the Landiscog goal.

[Dan]

Oh, yeah, the ab second goal.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah. You know how when we are in beer league, dude, and we're down, especially if it's if it's not the top league and we're down and they go, should we pull the goalie? I'm usually like, no, because we can just score anyway.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And I don't want to give them a free one. The ABs should be going on the power play.

[Dan]

We.

[Zach]

We can just score on Vegas. It's fine. Like, we don't need to pull the goalie and give. And again, the. It worked. But I'm even.

[Dan]

Even.

[Zach]

That move made me think the AVs are a little in their own head already.

[Dan]

Especially. We were talking. We were texting with Marty last night about it. Especially when they have a free clear. Yeah.

[Zach]

Wait, watch this. Fourth Street. Dude, watch this. Fucking put you on Fourth Street. Bye.

[Chris]

Yeah. Isn't it funny that the McKinnon move is great?

[Dan]

That's what we're talking about.

[Zach]

It's.

[Chris]

It like, was amazing highlight.

[Dan]

Isn't it funny how, like, see a McNabb and you know in that moment. You know, in that moment too, McNabb is like, can you please, dude, just like, stop. Oh, cuz. McNabb is such a good player. Just. It just illustrates how good Nate is. I love it when you have that clip with Nate talking to Sid and he's like, yeah, I'm like, kind of choppy and blah, blah, blah. And Sid's like, you're choppy, eh?

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And I'm like, nate, just because you are a brick shithouse and you move like a bullet train doesn't mean you're choppy.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Dan]

It means you're an anomaly.

[Zach]

Yeah, Right. You're special, dude. It's okay. Yeah, be special. You are special.

[Dan]

Listen, I think the. Kale out, stone out. I just short circuited for a second. Tail out, stone out. It's a factor, sure. I don't think this game teaches us anything until game two, because I think it's, you know, abs had some time off, they find out they don't have kale. Vegas is way better than people think. This is the first. You know, like, they're seeing Vegas and they're like, okay, shit. Like Vegas has been getting better. All right, let's regroup. Let's play. Let's see what happens in game two. Now, I will say this. We. We gotta talk about Carter Hart. Oh, okay. Carter Hart, to me, is the story of this game.

[Zach]

Great.

[Dan]

Carter Hart's the story of this game. And he is arguably the story of the playoffs, of Vegas's playoffs. If not marner is marner. We all. We all had a massive question mark on Vegas Goaltending all season long. And then even when they signed Carter Hart, we were like, how is Carter Hart gonna be as in played in years and now we're in playoffs and it's like, let me try to try to find Carter Hart's numbers from that game. No, these playoffs, it's like, I got them for you. Give me his. Here we go. Carter Hart's save percentage by game. These playoffs. Okay. 9479-699448-26939, 926, 971, 957. That is Conn Smythe shit right there. Sure is, pal. And this Vegas team, I think, loves their team. They go out and they get Marner. They go out and they get Rasmus Anderson. And you're just going, man, if we just have goaltending like we had the year we won the cup from Aiden Hill, we can win. And Carter Hart was like, is this, Is this good? Do you like that? Do you like what you're seeing me now?

[Zach]

You know what I will say, I don't want to be completely off base here, so I'm going to check a couple of them, but the Vegas Golden Knights usually, and a lot of this is butch, but they play great D, right? Like, that's kind of their thing. They don't give you a lot. That's the M.O. i would say of the Vegas teams in the past. But if you look at these playoffs and obviously new coach and everything. But if you look at these playoffs, I would have expected Vegas to be winning because it's Carter Heart's playing pretty good. But the opposing teams are getting 21 shots a game. And, dude, go on. The avs just pumped 38 shots on them in this game. Go back to the Duck series. The Ducks are out shooting them pretty much every game. If you look at it, it's like Anaheim, 33 shots. Anaheim, 36 shots. The Vegas Golden Knights are giving you a lot. Maybe the argument is it's not a huge, huge high danger. But I even. That I kind of disagree with. But normally Vegas goes boom, 21 shots a game against. That's how we win this playoffs. They're going fire when ready, boys. Who cares? And the other team is peppering them.

[Dan]

Yeah, pucks.

[Zach]

And Carter Hart goes, gotcha, dude. Which is why his save percentages are so high. Usually, dude, you check a top goalie. They have a stinker in there. In the playoffs, they have one game where their save percentage is.750 because they're like, yeah, you Know, I got lit up. Carter Hartz is like, the worst one was fucking eight. Whatever the fuck you said. Because they get a thousand shots a game. Stops all of them. He doesn't care. He doesn't give a fuck. He does not care. That's what's crazy. Does not care.

[Dan]

He doesn't care. And it's. It's just huge for this Vegas team. Like, it's. You kind of had. And I felt. I feel like Wedgwood is the same.

[Zach]

Like, no, because he's had some ones where I'm like, oh, you get two.

[Dan]

He's had two games.

[Zach]

But even tonight, dude, like, how many shots. How many shots did the Knights have? Checking, right?

[Dennis]

It's on the screen. It's on the screen.

[Zach]

28, dude. 3 and 28. I mean, it's not horrible, but it's not like they're 40 shots a game.

[Dan]

It's sick.

[Zach]

Empty net, by the way. Yeah, that was awesome.

[Dan]

It was awesome.

[Zach]

You love to see a hustle player.

[Dan]

It was just great. Hustle. By doubt. I mean that if you watch the

[Zach]

reverse view of that, that replay, as soon as Jack is going to shoot it, Dowd is already taking off.

[Dan]

Yeah, he's.

[Zach]

But I was like, that's up here, dude. That's right up here. That was really sick. I have a penalty question for you.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Zach]

The.

[Dan]

The.

[Zach]

I think it was Shay in the box When Nate put McNabb in the spin cycle. Shay takes a high stick, and it looks like to me, he goes like this to whack a puck right in the slot and then comes up and hits whoever in the face. And I was confused because the rule is if you are shooting or passing the puck and you're followed through, hit someone in the face. That is. That is not a high stick. That is allowed now, I think. And maybe someone in the comments can tell me this. I. Because we. We got the. As you all saw, we got the volume turned off on us, so. So I could watch a fucking basketball game. But we were watching that in the office with no volume. I think they were saying Shay missed the puck because he clearly was trying to hit the puck, but he missed it. So here are my two questions for you, Dan. One question, one comment question. The rule is, if I'm shooting and I follow through and hit you in the face, that's not high sticking. That is a literal rule, correct? Okay, so what if someone sends me a one timer and I miss I camera like this. Miss the one timer, though. I whiff it and then follow through and Hit you in the face, it's a penalty. Just because I'm a plug?

[Dan]

Yes. Learn your lesson, bum. That's what I say.

[Zach]

But if I. But the puck is nicked. The puck is nicked. Nicked.

[Dan]

No penalty.

[Zach]

No penalty.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Dan]

I think that's fair.

[Zach]

I think it is, too. Which I think, and I hope someone in the chat will tell.

[Dan]

It's like addressing a golf ball.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Dan]

If I fucking take a hack on my drive and completely whiff and the ball's still sitting on the tee, it's not a stroke, dude. Yeah, but it's embarrassing. But I'm like.

[Zach]

But you know what else, Dan? If you don't. You don't address the ball and you're clearly taking a practice shot and you hit the ball off the tee, it's not a stroke. Because they're like, that was a practice shot. That's also a rule. That is a rule.

[Dan]

So now I think that's the difference. Like, because once you address like, that's gameplay.

[Zach]

Okay. Yeah. Now we're in the game. If it's in the game, it's in the game.

[Dan]

If I high stick you and not in gameplay, no penalty.

[Zach]

Yeah. We weren't playing between the whistles.

[Dan]

I go, well, I could skate right up to you and slash you.

[Zach]

I don't know, though. Guardi got it one on Sid and then he got it.

[Dan]

That is true.

[Zach]

But anyway. Anyway, okay, so I'm. I think I'm okay with that. If you win whiff. If you whiff, then unfortunately you don't get the luxury of the rule. But my comment, dude, is why aren't we taking advantage of this more? I think if you. If I was just in the neutral zone and you were coming at me on D, I would just pass it back to my defenseman and then go. And just clean you across the face and then go. That was a pass.

[Dan]

I think you'd get away with that once and then you do it again and people are going to be like this. Are you intentionally change the rule following through on passes to slash people in

[Zach]

the face, Change the rule then.

[Dan]

Well, I think the bigger question is, why do you want to slash people in the face?

[Zach]

You're out now. That's 10 minutes while you get zipped up. Three teeth, you know, maybe, I guess, boom, three teeth.

[Dan]

Maybe, boom, three teeth.

[Zach]

I could. I could bring the whole team down. You give me one period. You give me one period, and the other team's playing with five guys, no subs. And here we go. David. Thank you. He Said I thought Theodore nicked it. And so did I. I can't believe that was a high sticking. And actually, Dan, here's my other. I have a second question. This just. You've now created a second question for me. If a pass or shot, follow through, hits someone in the face, no penalty, does that mean any puck movement? So, for example, if I have the puck in the slot in my own defensive slot and my whole team is over there. My whole team. But I'm just trying to clear the puck and I go like this and I shoot it off the boards and then genuinely follow through and hit someone, no penalty. Because I was like I was playing the puck. Or is it literally. Does it have to be like a. Can you just whack at pucks?

[Dan]

What are you asking me what I think the rules. Call Dave. Call Dave.

[Zach]

No, I actually, I'm asking if you know. I genuinely don't.

[Dan]

I don't. I don't know. I would say technically, no, I think

[Zach]

it's any playing puck.

[Dan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Zach]

Would be my guess.

[Dan]

Same.

[Zach]

And I thought Theodore nicked it. Tough call. Tough call for the guy.

[Dan]

That is a tough call. What do you have for final thoughts on this game?

[Zach]

Final thoughts are. This is the AV's literal worst nightmare. No. Yeah. Well, that could be worse.

[Dan]

You're being dramatic.

[Zach]

What could be worse? Wedgwood got lit up, I guess.

[Dan]

Yeah. I think. What would be worse? I mean, the fact that they went down. You start the third period and you go down three nothing. And it was immediately like, oh my God. But then immediately Valgol. And then you yank the goal and in desperation you score again. Like, this is a one goal game. At the end of the day, like,

[Zach]

I think Vegas, it was a two goal game.

[Dan]

It was a one goal game.

[Zach]

Yeah. But they pulled their goalie to score one. And they got scored on one with their goalie pulled. That's a wash. You lost by two.

[Dan]

You know what? I'll like that.

[Zach]

You lost by two.

[Dan]

It's a two goal game. It was a two goal game. In a game that felt like for a moment was out of control. So the fact that you're able to pull it back like that, that feels good. You're without Kale. Sure. They're without Stone.

[Zach]

David goes quote, I agree with the call on the ice, Dave.

[Dan]

J. Yeah, I mean that is. That's not the most. Again, we love you, Dave, but like, we gotta stop cutting to Dave. It's unbelievable.

[Zach]

Dan. They got beat. They lost. Tom ice. Cale Makar is in the fucking Morgue.

[Dan]

Yeah. Cale Makar is officially Tutankhamun, wrapped up like a condom in a brothel.

[Zach]

Carter Hart goes, do you think I look like Walstead? Do you think you can just pump goals past me like I'm Walstead?

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Zach]

You sure? I'm no rookie. And Marty Natures can't score, so you're dead. Brock Nelson minus three last night, Dan. Brock Nelson. Brock Nelson minus three. They go. Brock's not scoring. He's shutting down the big dogs. Brock Nelson's a minus three.

[Dan]

Here's what I'll say. I think I love this AVS team. I hitched my wagon to them. Shout out party, our buddy. Yeah. I hitched my wagon to them. I think this AVS team is fine. I think they're going to bounce back, regardless of the fact that Cale is literally six feet underground.

[Zach]

Yes.

[Dan]

What I will say is this was a little bit of humble pie.

[Zach]

Oh, yeah.

[Dan]

I think this was a little bit of humble pie in that we got to respect Vegas. And I think some fans like the ones we saw yesterday, being like, Kale being out doesn't matter, dude, it is so much better. It's a better look for all of you to not be insufferable twats online and be like, yeah, dude, we're a great team. We're gonna see what's coming next. Because then when you lose like this, you don't look like a jackass. And then if you storm back and win in five, which they can't easily, this AVS team can absolutely win in five. If you storm back, you go like this. Yeah. I mean, listen, that's what I said. We're a great team. I thought we were going to respond. You just. It's a way better look because there's been a lot of mouth running from some AVS fans online all season long.

[Zach]

Rightfully so.

[Dan]

Rightfully so. But I'm telling you, it's a dangerous game because this is your nightmare. Oh, dude, this is your nightmare. If you lose, if you lose in the Western Conference final, if you don't even make it to the cup, this is your nightmare because of the yapping. So stay confident because I believe this team can still win. But just, you know, put it in your cap, dude. Put a feather in your cap.

[Zach]

Here's. Well, so a couple things, Dan. Couple things there. One, you're so right about how the AVS could be completely fine. We even little behind the curtain wizard of Oz action here when this power, power team in here with Ev and Zach and Nate. Nate the great and us are making thumbnails. I. We said, put president's trophy curse on the thumb today. And Dan went, dude, that's a little early. And I said, well, there's a very real chance that the Aves never go behind in this series again. Like, they just win the next two, you know? So I was like, this might be the only chance we have to make this joke. Yeah, so make it. That's how scary the Aves still are. All right. But here's what I find fascinating. After one game, we all went as playoffs were starting, and I guess maybe we thought it might be the Oilers, but as playoffs were starting, we all went like this. Dude, the fucking Pacific has been such a joke all year. But whoever comes out of that side of the bracket after their little pillow fight is going to catch the Central champ. But they are going to have beaten themselves to a pulp after two rounds, and the Pacific team's going to win.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And. And so that. It's hilarious to me that that Vegas is now up. Like the Pacific team is now up. But the Central team didn't beat themselves to. They waltzed, they slept, walked to the West Coast.

[Dan]

They. They had played nine games.

[Zach]

I'm like, dude, what are you doing? Like, this should have been the easy. You're playing the. The team that was horrible all year who actually did have hard series, and you have had two sweeps, like, what the fuck?

[Dan]

But I think what we've learned as we talked about with Marty in last episode, is Vegas. Vegas tricked us. Vegas is a bunch of magicians, which makes sense.

[Chris]

David Blaine.

[Dan]

Yep.

[Chris]

Yeah, they learned from him.

[Dan]

They learned from Blaine, they learned from Criss Angel. They've got Penn and Teller in their back pocket. Vegas tricked all of us. And they did their little hobble limp bullshit into the playoffs, just barely being atop the dog shit Pacific. But in reality, they were this good the whole time. And now Colorado is learning that. And that's why I think Colorado could be fine, because I think they're going, oh, really? Sure. How good you are.

[Zach]

Here's a very important question I have for you, Dan. Very important question. So somebody just said this in the chat. Let me find it, Keaton. He says this Carter Hart was looking like the Hoover Dam. And I was like, whoa, what a sick nickname for a goalie. So first of all, if there's ever a goalie named with the last name Hoover, actually. But I guess. Is that. Is that. What's the vacuum called? Isn't there?

[Chris]

The Hoover vacuum.

[Zach]

That's also Hoover damage.

[Dan]

Dyson is what you're thinking about, okay,

[Chris]

you have to get a Vegas goalie who's called Hoover.

[Zach]

Well, so. So. But here's the thing. The Hoover Dam is an incredible nickname for a goalie.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And he goes, carter Hart's looking like the Hoover Dam. And I just went like this.

[Dan]

Holy fuck.

[Zach]

Should we start calling him that? Where is the Hoover Dam? Because I was like, is it in Vegas? That would be sick. So I look it up, and the Hoover Dam is in Nevada.

[Dan]

Yes.

[Zach]

I was like, oh, my God. But then I saw this. The Hoover Dam blocks the water that's blocking. That it's blocking is the Colorado River.

[Dan]

Yeah. It's perfect.

[Dennis]

Oh, wow.

[Zach]

So now. I don't even know. I don't even know what to say about this. Dude. He's literally the Hoover Dam in Nevada blocking the Colorado River. Like, this actually could be the most diabolically sick nickname of all time. Someone make a fucking T shirt. And, Keaton, you get nothing. You get absolutely nothing. And I'm sorry for that, dude. But Carter Hart is now the Hoover Dam blocking the Colorado River.

[Dan]

I. Keaton, why would you give us this? You guys in the chat, we love you, but stop giving us million dollar ideas that we're just gonna take with no remorse. You think I care? You think. Oh, give me a break, dude.

[Zach]

Fucking sue me, dude.

[Dan]

You don't think that I can fucking erase this shit? We're stealing that. Do you know Carter Hart is the Hoover Dam? Thanks, Keaton. Thanks for all of your money. Thanks for your intellectual property, Keaton.

[Zach]

You want nothing to do with Motts, my man. You want nothing to do with Motts? Coming, pal. Don't. You will bring the hammer down.

[Dan]

Eat you alive.

[Zach]

Oh, my God.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Zach]

Yeah, Dan. Scary stuff for Colorado, but they might be fine. They need McCarr back, though. They need McCarr back. He is the. He is the conductor of that. Of that train. Of that runaway train.

[Dan]

Listen, you got Mitch Marner, and you got Carter Hart. Absolutely.

[Zach]

Buzzing the dock and the dam.

[Dan]

The dock and the dam. And now you're in trouble. Before we get into the series tonight, there's a couple little bits of hockey news I want to talk about. Yep.

[Zach]

Oh, I got some hockey news, too.

[Dan]

Do you? Yeah. Do you want to start? No. Okay. Simone Nemech has apparently requested a trade out of New Jersey.

[Zach]

I got some texts about that.

[Dan]

We got a right shot, D, man, who's apparently available.

[Zach]

Dude. Yep.

[Dan]

What do you think about that, dude?

[Zach]

I think he's awesome. And what he's had the craziest career because people seem to think he's not good, but he is good and he's an incredible chip. And he either should have been played or he should have been traded. And it's about time one of those two things happens. And if New Jersey's not going to trade him, then they should. Or so if they're not going to play him, then they should trade him. And they should also trade Jack and Luke to Minnesota.

[Dan]

That feels like an irrational blow up.

[Zach]

Does it? They've sucked. They beat the Rangers and then have literally sucked since.

[Dan]

It has been bad. It has been bad since. But I think that that's slightly irrational. But I have been saying for years that they need to trade one of this group in the defense. I don't think it should have been Nemech. But now here we are.

[Zach]

Now here it is.

[Dan]

He's gone. How good does Simone Nemech in Anaheim sound to you?

[Zach]

Ooh, that would be sick.

[Dan]

That would be sick.

[Zach]

That would almost be unfair. We need to. You know how sometimes corporations are like, enough. You have this as a monopoly. I think if the Ducks got Nemes, they would. The league would have to step in.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Say, this is not right. Give him to. Give him to San Jose.

[Dan]

I think it'd be great. That'd be great too. Yeah. That's the two teams that I pegged. I was like, that's pretty good. Do you think it is? Two years ago, like you just mentioned, when they beat New York, the Devils were kind of in this. Like, we are back. We're surging, and now all of a sudden you got people requesting trades.

[Zach]

Yeah. Now it turns out there was a surge protector.

[Dan]

Are they like, are the Devils dead?

[Zach]

Yes. The Devils are finished. The Devils are the worst team in the league. And I actually have to eat crow on this because I said that Keef would take them to three. Three cups in the next six years. Because the problem was Toronto. Turns out the problem was him. And I'm sorry. I'm sorry to come to that realization, but they don't. They don't have it. You don't have it. That's where the situation is. If you guys have not seen that show, the Wet Hot American summer TV show. Have you seen that?

[Dan]

So good.

[Chris]

Oh, turn me on. Yeah, dude, Love that show, bro.

[Zach]

The.

[Dan]

It's not stucko.

[Zach]

The. What's that? What's that actor's name from Mad Men who signed John Slattery.

[Dan]

Slattery. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chris]

Older guy.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah. The. With the white hair.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Dude, he does a talent show. They're, like, casting the talent show with Amy Poehler. And it's like this chick gets up there and sings Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star beautifully.

[Dan]

Well, a ton of people do.

[Zach]

Yeah. But she gets up and sings, twinkle, Twinkle. It's gorgeous. And he goes, okay, enough, Stop. And she's like, oh, do you want me to. And he's like. As she's saying, like, I can do something else. He interrupts her. He goes, you don't have it. It's so funny. So funny. I decided to do the clip.

[Dan]

You want me to say how you got up there and you ruined this room like a dusty wet fart?

[Zach]

It's incredible.

[Chris]

Just love how they're playing younger versions themselves. But they're 20 years.

[Zach]

It's amazing. So, so good. Yeah. Okay. Nemet's gone. What else you got? Dan?

[Dan]

I wanted to talk about the. The Huck brothers.

[Zach]

Oh, yeah, sweet.

[Dan]

The. The Huck Bros. And it was funny because. Let me find this. We've got two twins. Guys. Twins.

[Zach]

Basil.

[Dan]

Twins. And I gotta find this graphic. Dan.

[Zach]

Find it. I know you.

[Dan]

Yeah, it's a filibuster for me. Filibuster for me.

[Chris]

Is it Huck? H U C K. Yeah.

[Dan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Zach]

Yes. And Dan. Here we go.

[Dan]

I got it.

[Zach]

I got it. So Ruck.

[Dan]

Sorry, not Huck.

[Zach]

Rock. Damn. I thought his name was. I thought that was his first name. I thought Dan. I thought Dan found a guy named Ruck. Huck. No. That would have been awesome.

[Dan]

We got Marcus Ruck and Liam Ruck playing for Medicine Hat this season. In 68 games, Marcus Ruck, 21 goals, 87 assists, 108 points. Liam Ruck, 68 games, 45 goals, 59 assists, 104 points. Apparently, everyone's saying Liam is good and Marcus stinks. Really? Which is crazy, because Marcus had more points. But this is also what's crazy. I love how you can play for Medicine Hat and have over 100 points and that you have fucking fatso clowns and dipshits like us who are like this. Well, I mean, one of them stinks. And I'm like, well, it sounds like they're going in the first and second

[Zach]

round, so I would hope so, dude. I just.

[Dan]

Yeah, I don't. I don't know that we. Any people who are sitting on their couch can say, these guys stink. If you get drafted in the seventh round, you are very good at.

[Zach]

I used to love going to Sox games. And there's. The Yankees would pull out Jabba Chamberlain to pitch the eighth inning. And some. The fattest dude I've ever seen from Southie would be screaming that Jabba is a fat slob.

[Dan]

Yeah,

[Zach]

that's incredible. That's what's happening here.

[Dan]

So you got the Ruck Bros Twins, do you? If you are a NHL scout or a gm, and you've got these guys, one of whom seems like he's going to be a late first round pick, the other a second round pick, that's not acceptable.

[Zach]

They have to go to the same team.

[Dan]

They have to go to the same team.

[Zach]

Yep.

[Dan]

Because they play on the same team.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Dan]

This is like the Sadeen things. Zach, if you're unaware of this, Henrik and Daniel Sedin, two Swedish players came into the league and they were like, yo, we have to play together. So the Vancouver Canucks literally had to figure out a way to make a trade so they could pick like back to back and take these two guys.

[Dennis]

That's wild.

[Zach]

They played together their whole career, like,

[Chris]

and then they didn't win the cup and Vancouver literally had a riot.

[Zach]

That is correct. All that, all that happened.

[Dan]

That is all correct.

[Chris]

But the twins were great.

[Dan]

But the point is, I don't think you can separate these guys. So if you're picking in the late first round, you've got to. You've got to know that you need to take the other one or otherwise neither of them will reach full potential unless they play together.

[Zach]

Hold on, Dan. Hold on.

[Dan]

And I found that the Washington capitals have picked 16 and 18 in this draft. Now a lot of people are saying that's too high for. For both of them, but I'm like, I don't think it matters.

[Zach]

Who cares, dude? You don't even realize the potential that you are getting. How about this, Dan?

[Dan]

Does anyone have a pick late in the first and then early in the.

[Zach]

This is what I'm checking right now. And this could be sad.

[Dan]

That could be. Oh, sad.

[Zach]

Yep.

[Dan]

Wait, what is this bullshit, dude?

[Zach]

This. I guess we don't know yet, right? Like, who's picking where?

[Dan]

What do you mean? Absolutely we do. Oh, fair.

[Zach]

No. So like we don't know the. The late picks just yet. Oh, okay. Oh, interesting. Interesting. This is like original team. They're moving. You know, some teams have like this. It belonged to Vegas, but it's now Calgary's pick, right?

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Zach]

So Calgary picks 28th overall or right now picks 28th overall in the first round because it's going to be the Vegas pick. They will have that late first round pick and then they pick 35th overall, third pick in the second round. So they could go like, if Vegas goes to the Cup, Calgary will pick like 31st and then also 35th. Yeah, also Calgary picks 35th and 36th, so they could take them both in the top of the second. That could be interesting. But then that's a nightmare because then you can play for Calgary and then, you know, your life is over. And I'm sorry about that. True, the Chicago Blackhawks pick 34th and 37th, but I'd have to get up to the camera. Top of the second.

[Dan]

That's pretty good.

[Zach]

Bedsy. Bedsy.

[Dan]

Maybe that's it.

[Zach]

Yep.

[Dan]

Maybe the rucks go to Chicago at 34 and 37.

[Zach]

That's actually. Let's put a stamp on that.

[Chris]

Oh, you know what? Oh, that's actually synergistic because, you know. Oh, well, this kind of doesn't make sense, but Alan Ruck played Cameron in Ferris Bueller's Day off, but he was a Wings fan.

[Zach]

But in Chicago.

[Chris]

But he lived in Chicago and.

[Zach]

And the. The Hawks terrorized him his whole life.

[Chris]

Right. I think that's why he was like the guy that, like, hates the local team because he's like, hated the jocks.

[Zach]

He actually, he actually would love this. In fact, if the two elite twins went to the Hawks to contain. To terrorize.

[Dan]

The Blackhawks were in a rough go when Cameron was hanging in Chicago. So it makes sense that he felt tormented. So now it's going to take a couple of rucks to change the puck.

[Zach]

Luck. Yep. Yep. Keep going.

[Dan]

And then.

[Zach]

Yes.

[Chris]

We knew we were getting there.

[Dan]

It was only going one place. And I'm glad we landed that plane. So. Yeah, someone's got to take them both. That's it. What's your news?

[Zach]

Okay, couple things. One, Lindy Ruff, two year signs two year contract to remain Sabers coach.

[Dan]

Awesome.

[Zach]

Awesome. This man. This man. We almost took this man's job in November.

[Dan]

And listen, it might all go downhill.

[Zach]

Yep.

[Dan]

But it doesn't matter. He deserves that two years.

[Zach]

It's incredible, dude. Because you know what? You know what, Dan? Here's why it's incredible. If this blows up next year and Buffalo stinks again and they have to fire him, so be it.

[Dan]

So what?

[Zach]

Yep. So what?

[Dan]

So what?

[Zach]

Because he deserves. He deserves two more cracks at this. If. Because if. If they let him go to be like, thank you, we're moving on. And then Buffalo kept surging. That's not fair. That is not fair to my man.

[Dan]

You will always remember this amazing season. Yep. And now they just need to trade Owen Power and everything will.

[Zach]

Everything will be fine. So that's incredible, dude.

[Dan]

Jeff Merrick was talking about. He was like, the. The Buffalo Sabres should trade Owen Power and get Connor Hellebach. And it just made me laugh because I was just like, it is so funny. How many Buffalo fans were upset about the idea of making a difficult trade that would make your team better. Yeah. And I'm like, this is what it takes, folks.

[Zach]

It takes yesterday, Dave.

[Dan]

But don't trade him. He's amazing.

[Zach]

Yesterday, the Sports Business Awards took place.

[Dan]

Sports biz.

[Zach]

The Sports Business Journal puts on the Sports Business Awards. And this happened yesterday.

[Dan]

That sounds so fake. I can't even believe it.

[Zach]

What do we say? Let's gotta get back to business. Doing all kinds of business.

[Dan]

Oh, dude. Vince, an adult man, business wise, that sounds like legitimate business. That's the Business Awards.

[Zach]

That is the Sports Business Journal Business Awards. That is correct. It's held annually, Dan, by the Sports Business Journal. Takes place at the Marriott Marquis, Times Square in New York. And I gotta tell you, the big award. League of the Year NHL.

[Dan]

Ping.

[Zach]

We did it.

[Chris]

Boo.

[Zach]

I wish we had fucking confetti in here, dude. The League of the Year NHL wins League of the Year. By the Sports Business Journal. Sports Business Awards.

[Chris]

Bang.

[Dan]

Holy shit, dude.

[Zach]

And you know, they cited getting players back at the Olympics and they cited having an outdoor game in fucking Florida. They said, hell of a year.

[Dan]

That is, you know, sorry. They cited the Olympics.

[Zach]

They said getting players back to the Olympics.

[Dan]

Oh, oh. I thought they were like, the NHL wins League of the Year. The Olympics. And I'm like, well, that's not the NHL.

[Zach]

It's like when banks have a commercial and it's like a shot of the moon landing and then it's like Wells Fargo. And I'm like, what the fuck did that have to do with you, dude?

[Dan]

Yeah, incredible, dude. It's like Lance Armstrong ripping across the finish line. And it's like Dyson vacuums.

[Zach]

A cut above.

[Dan]

And I'm like, no, really?

[Dennis]

Are we anti this? I'm on the opposite side. That. That fires me up. When I see a cool, cool image, I just want. I want an eagle flying. I want an eagle flying over the Budweiser commercial. I want to see Jack use his fucking teeth. Just ripping out, dude. I want to. I want to watch that and go, you know what? This is America. Dyson vacuums.

[Zach]

I'll buy it. Dyson is very dice it.

[Dan]

So what's funny? I completely agree with you. Those commercials do fire me up.

[Zach]

But I He's actually right. I think he just won me.

[Dan]

I'd be lying to you if I'm not like, what does that have to do with fucking Chase Bank? But at the same time, you're right. I'm like, who fucking cares? You get me a credit card, I'll buy a Volvo.

[Zach]

I'll buy a fucking Volvo. I don't give a shit. Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's Swedish, dude. I know, but they do that shit.

[Dan]

No, we got. We got to take these off American achievements.

[Zach]

Okay?

[Dan]

Need to be used for American company. I'll tell you this, if I see a fucking BMW commercial and they are putting Jack Hughes's bloody face in there, I'm going to fucking lose my mind. I will go crazy on that. You can't fucking take that shit from us. We will only sell capitalism with American achievements, with American companies.

[Dennis]

Yeah, they should be showing. They should be showing fucking Tate McCray the teeth out.

[Dan]

America, baby.

[Dennis]

Bang.

[Zach]

Stolen Tate. I love. We really did steal Tate. Like, she was like, okay, I'm American. And here's the thing that's gonna piss

[Dan]

some people off, dude. If Trump wanted to do anything good, Grant Tate McCrae American citizenship immediately. Yeah, that would be the biggest fucking thing.

[Zach]

I don't need the Gulf of Mexico.

[Chris]

But then she won't have to get married for it.

[Zach]

Yeah, you're right.

[Dan]

She's got to earn it. Yeah.

[Zach]

Jack will be.

[Dan]

He'll look at him and be like, what the fuck? Yeah.

[Chris]

That was the one thing. That was the second thing I had.

[Zach]

Yeah, you got to earn it. This is going to piss people off. But I legitimately think, Dan, based on this conversation, that the Winter Olympics, until the next one at least, are now American. The entire Olympics. Because we won the marquee event. Like, sorry, dude. And I'm sure. Who won the most golds? Norway. I'm sure. I'm sure Norway is like, no, we won the Winter Olympics. And I'm like, incorrect. We won hockey. It's over. The Winter Olympics are American.

[Chris]

Yeah. Because cross country skiing isn't all that exciting.

[Zach]

Who cares? So, yes, we got it.

[Dan]

True.

[Zach]

That was amazing. And congrats onto the NHL.

[Dan]

Congrats. Business congrats. NHL League of the Year. The Times Square Marriott Marquis League of the Year Sports Business Award brought to you by Dyson Vacuums and American Capitalism Bankrupts.

[Chris]

It's really coming together with the hat, too. This is all working with that.

[Zach]

Yes.

[Dan]

You really landed the plane.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Dan]

And started with the ruck rhyme. And now here we are.

[Dennis]

You're gonna start Singing the national anthem or.

[Zach]

Yeah, do it.

[Dan]

I actually was singing the Canadian.

[Zach]

Yeah. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Chris]

Objectively, a good.

[Dan]

It's so good.

[Zach]

All right. And then here's my last piece of news.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Zach]

The. Our good friend. Well, I got to figure out how I want to display this news, but our good friend Matt Chase made a really cool documentary about Gavin McKenna's journey to become the number one pick. It is called the McKenna Project. Awesome. All right. It premieres tonight on everything. Okay. Like, it's. It's. I think it'll actually premiere on TNT on In J.

[Dan]

The other day.

[Zach]

I don't think so.

[Dan]

Or that was just a different McKenna.

[Zach]

Yeah, it airs tonight following the game tonight. So if you're watching the game or. Yeah, this is live. If you're watching the game tonight on TNT. Matt Chase's doc with McKenna full access. It's actually incredible. It's on TNT. So Matt had reached out to us and it's. Everybody's in it. Like, you know, Mikey G's in it. A lot of the boys home by three guys, like, everybody. Matt did a great job and reached out to a lot of the hockey Internet platforms to get in. And Matt had reached out to us to be like, hey, I want you guys to be part of the doc. So. Which is why we have the screener and all this stuff. And there was a couple times that we were going to fly to Matt to do these sit down interviews for the doc. And it was like we were in Tampa for stadium series. You know, a lot of shit was happening. We kept missing each other. And then we had something set for, I think during the finals. And then the NHL was like, hey, we actually want to bump this up. Which is sick. Like, they want to give you a TNT premiere during game one of the Eastern finals. We got to bump this up. Which meant though, Matt had to go into the final edit way quicker. And he was like, hey, dude, I'm sorry, there's no time to do the sit down interview anymore. And we were like, oh, shit, that's okay. And he's like, all good. I have some of your podcast stuff that I gonna put in. And I was like, sick. So, you know, we signed the release and he gets the pod and then he sends us the link. And admittedly, I've only seen half so far. I started it and then we had to go to work. And I turn it on and I'm watching and everyone's popping up and then bang, here we go. It's when he's like, Deciding to go to college. And it cuts to, boom. Empty Netter's pod. And it's Dan. And he goes, Dan goes. Do you have any idea so how big it is that the top prospect, the projected first overall pick is leaving the Canadian junior to come play in the ncaa? And then I open my mouth to respond and it cuts away. I'm out. And I'm literally out of the door. And I'm like. And again, I haven't finished. Maybe, maybe, maybe CP comes back or.

[Dan]

Fuck, Matt, dude.

[Zach]

And I'm out of the dock, boys. I thought I was getting my TNT fucking premiere tonight and I am done.

[Chris]

Well, your face is on it, right?

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah. Just sitting there like this.

[Chris]

Okay, well, yeah, that's a non speaking, non speaking. So, yeah, non speaking role. You'll still get a little bit of money.

[Zach]

A little bit. Dude, yeah.

[Chris]

If you had a line, you'd get more.

[Zach]

Jesus fucking Christ.

[Dan]

I'm out of the dock. Drinks on me, fellas.

[Zach]

Unbelievable. I had something to say about that.

[Dan]

That's tough.

[Zach]

It's okay.

[Dan]

Let's jump into this game tonight quickly. We'll touch on the game tonight. Unless. Do you have more news? No. Fuck, I love news.

[Zach]

News is incredible. We should. We should work for some of. You know what?

[Dan]

I want to make people wait. Can we talk about something that we did on Tuesday night?

[Zach]

What did we do? What was it?

[Dan]

Yeah, Chris and I separately, but together.

[Zach]

Oh, yeah.

[Dan]

Went and saw a film.

[Chris]

What movie?

[Dan]

The Sheep Detectives.

[Zach]

What the. Oh, dude, Zach, you gotta fucking learn.

[Dan]

Everyone out here, everyone out here on movie Twitter and on movie Instagram going like this. Obsession, Obsession. It's the greatest horror movie ever made. I feel like every time a new horror movie comes out, everyone does that.

[Chris]

By the way, horror is having a real big moment right now. And I couldn't get a ticket to that movie Tuesday night.

[Dan]

Let me say this. Yeah, Obsession is fantastic.

[Chris]

Is it good?

[Dan]

It's utterly fantastic. And Curry is such a fucking beast. Love him. It's amazing. Go see it. But I do want to take a moment to talk about the Sheep Detectives because it's phenomenal. Wait, can we.

[Dennis]

Two seconds. Can we plug. They're almost Friday. If you guys want other content, there is. They did have an interview with the Obsession folks. So anybody into Obsession? You go check it out. Almost Friday podcast. Go check it out.

[Zach]

Fuck yes.

[Dan]

It. Sheep Detectives is so fucking good and fun. And this is a time where we love movies and we love cinema and we need more people going to the movies and more people enjoying cinema and I feel like a lot of people see the title the Sheep Detectives and see Hugh Jackman talking to a bunch of sheep and they go, that's ridiculous. I won't see it. And I understand.

[Zach]

Me too. Me too.

[Dan]

But you will love it. Go watch it. The Sheep Detectives is incredible.

[Chris]

You guys went on Tuesday? What theater?

[Zach]

Amc.

[Chris]

Did you? Okay, so the discount.

[Dan]

Tuesday, half off, baby.

[Chris]

So here's the thing. I love that because we're broke. Everybody's broke. And I've noticed that, like, on Tuesdays, if you don't get a ticket early, it's really hard to find, like, two together.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Because I tried to go Tuesday, but the one bad part is the fucking crazies come out on Tuesday. Like, people like talking. Like, I went once and I'm pretty sure there was a couple there who like, lived in an RV and they just wanted some air conditioning, which, God bless them, but they brought their, like, dog with them. Cause I'm like thinking about it. It's like, it's like a seven, eight dollar ticket or whatever. It's amazing and it's great, but I'm like, wow. Now I'm sitting next to, like, people, like, washing their nuts and stuff, like, just getting some respite.

[Zach]

He's in the bathroom slashing, you know? Yeah.

[Chris]

Like, I'm like, all right. But like, come on, guys. Like, can we. Can we quiet down? I want to watch this movie.

[Zach]

Yeah, you need to bring. You know when you go to the DMV and you have to bring proof of ad. Proof of residence. Yes, you need to bring proof of residence to half off movie night. Do you live in that van or do you have a house?

[Chris]

Do you just want to come and hang out? And that's fine. Just be quiet. Just let me watch the movie. Like, you're more than welcome to hang.

[Zach]

Just be quiet.

[Chris]

But it's not a social hour.

[Zach]

That's so awesome. God, that's so awesome. Okay, Dan, game one tonight.

[Chris]

Oh, yeah.

[Zach]

We. We saw the unbeatable Aves lose home ice in game one, and now everybody's freaking out. Rightfully so. The freak out is going to be times 20 if the Canes lose tonight.

[Dan]

And you want to hear a crazy fact?

[Zach]

Yep.

[Dan]

The Carolina Hurricanes have never won a game one in the Eastern Conference final

[Zach]

in their whole franchise.

[Dan]

In their entire franchise's history. 2002, lost to Toronto, 2 1. 2006, lost to Buffalo, 3 2. 2009, lost to Pitt, 3 2, 2019, lost to Boston, 5 2, 20. 23, lost to Florida. 3 2, 2025. Lost to Florida 5 2. They have literally never won a Game 1 in the Eastern Conference final.

[Zach]

Wow.

[Dan]

That cut to me was great. Oh, yeah.

[Zach]

Oh, yeah.

[Dan]

Yeah, that was good. Yeah. Fucking. Listen, you want to fucking get that Momo going? Win this game, Dan, I'll tell you what.

[Zach]

It's not even get the Momo going. It's if you. You're different. Everybody keeps telling me the Canes are different. There is a simple and ironclad way to prove you're different. Win this game. If they lose tonight, they're the same old Canes, full stop. Dude, I'm not saying they're going to get swept, but I'm telling you, if you lose tonight, then you're just the same Canes that lose in the Eastern Conference finals every year.

[Dan]

Dude, we talked about it in our series preview that came out yesterday with Alec. I believe in this Canes team. I think they're different. I think they're going to win this series. I think they're very, very strong. I think this Game one is so immensely important, it's absurd.

[Zach]

It's insane. Like, you just.

[Dan]

You're at home. I know that you've been in Cancun for two weeks golfing.

[Zach]

Yep.

[Dan]

But you have to come out and win this game. Yep. And what the fuck was that stat? Marty said that.

[Zach]

Which.

[Dan]

Or maybe you said it, but it

[Zach]

was like, teams that have swept.

[Chris]

Teams that have won Game seven. Playing.

[Zach]

Playing a team that has just swept the game seven team is seven and one.

[Dan]

Seven and one? Yeah. Like that fucking every. If I were a member of this Cane's team, I would not look at the Internet for the next 20 years. Like, I would just be like, you can't hear any of these little facts or these little things because I'm like. I just. I need nothing in my head right now.

[Zach]

This is.

[Dan]

It is the. This is Nick Cage driving Eleanor in. Gone in 60 seconds. The Carolina Hurricanes in the Eastern Conference final. Like, you have. The amount of ghosts.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Is unbelievable. Dude, you are fucking. You are Bill Pullman in Casper. You're living in a house of ghosts.

[Zach]

Yes. And we're about to find out if they're friendly or not. Because if they're not, you're about to get swept again. And it's a nightmare. And, dude, even though Montreal hasn't done that well at home, which is crazy, we keep joking about Buffalo. It's like, oh, my God. But they haven't done that well at home. But, man, it's just that looming threat sucks. If you're the Canes, where you go? We got to take care of our shit now. Dennis, our boy Dennis is going to Game 3 in Montreal. He's going to have the time of his life. But that looming threat about going to Montreal means you just have to take care of business for these first two games, and you haven't played in so long, it's fucking nuts.

[Dan]

So can I break and use you?

[Zach]

Yeah, please, Please, please, please, please.

[Dan]

Pro cop.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Dan]

Czech Hockey Insider.

[Zach]

Yep.

[Dan]

Or, excuse me, Slovak Hockey Insider. And just retweeted by Chris Johnston.

[Zach]

Oh, shit.

[Dan]

Simone Nemech did not request a trade from the New Jersey Devils. So the New Jersey Devils, they're better than ever.

[Zach]

Holy shit. Jack staying. Luke staying. Quinn is coming. They just got Quinn. That means they got Quinn. That's actually what happens just now. They just got Quinn. And, dude, I got a text.

[Dennis]

So we're talking a little Hughesy.

[Zach]

Yeah, we're getting the Hughes trifecta. Dude, it has to happen. It literally has to happen.

[Dan]

This is incredible. In one live episode, we had the death and destruction of the New Jersey Devils. And now the Devils are back. They're going to win a cup.

[Zach]

I'm hearing some stuff, though, that he. That he was. He's open to it. I'm not saying he asked. I'm just saying he's open to it.

[Dan]

Maybe he didn't request it, but he's turned on by.

[Zach]

He just said, I. I could be aroused by that. Yeah.

[Dan]

He goes, I didn't request I should

[Zach]

be aroused by that.

[Dan]

But that sounds pretty good. That could be what happened.

[Zach]

Yep. So what do you think happens tonight?

[Dan]

I think the Canes win. I think the Canes win, and I think it's going to be a little chess match, like a lot of their games in the past. I think they're going to go down. Oh, interesting. And I think they fight back. But I am going to say Vladar was great for Philly. So respect to Philly, but you played. Actually, Omark was great for Ottawa.

[Zach]

He was pretty solid.

[Dan]

I thought Omark was great in several games. So I'm not going to say that the Canes haven't really played a great goalie, but I do think Dobesh is a dog. I think Dobesh is a dog.

[Zach]

He is.

[Dan]

I also think when you look at the Canes two of the last three years in the conference final, they've played Florida and, like, a great fl. I mean, heavy.

[Zach]

The.

[Dan]

The Florida team that the Canes went up against last year was absurd.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Dan]

That was an Absurd lineup. I'm sorry. Much better than this Montreal lineup.

[Zach]

Oh, my God.

[Dan]

So I think that obviously they lost that series, but I think that they can take.

[Dennis]

Who do we think this is?

[Zach]

That's incredible.

[Chris]

Just grow a stash.

[Zach]

Unbelievable.

[Dan]

I actually did. I can grow a good stat.

[Zach]

Yeah. That's all he can do.

[Dan]

It's all I can. Mandatory. Grow a very good stat.

[Chris]

Sorry.

[Dan]

I think that they. Look at that. And again, they lost that series, but they're like, we've played better competition. That doesn't mean that much. Montreal can absolutely win this series. Like we said, dude, they could fucking catch Carolina in their feels and in their ghosts. They could possess the Carolina's ghosts and fucking probe them. And that's a. That's a spooksville situation. But I think Carolina has to go in this and go, listen, do we had a ton of rest in round one? After round one, we came out and we won that game immediately. This is way better competition than Philly. It's way better competition than Ottawa. But I think you have to go, fuck the rest. We are fine. Freddie is fresh. Go in and win. But I will tell you what. What did we say? They haven't given up more than two goals.

[Zach]

All fucking Freddy's played eight games, given up 10 goals.

[Dan]

If Montreal scores even three. Yeah. And even if you win. Yep. If Montreal scores even 3. I think that they're. They're like, oh, fuck me.

[Zach]

Well, it's also not sustainable at all what they're doing. Obviously. Obviously.

[Dennis]

That's what you think.

[Zach]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Dennis]

I. I'm still on this aura, and I think there is a lot of aura with that team.

[Zach]

So. So you think with the hat with Montreal, though, right?

[Dennis]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Chris is on your side. I'm on your side.

[Zach]

I'm saying it's not sustainable what the Canes are doing where they give up one goal a game to the point that I think if you give up three to the Montreal Canadians in the Eastern Conference finals, you don't go, oh, no. Because I'm like, of course, dude, you are eventually going to have a hard game where you give up three fucking goals. Like, this is the. Welcome to the real world, pal. So that. That was. That is coming. I was ready to say that the Canes are going to lose game one because of all this bullshit. Yeah. Just. It just. It felt too perfect. The Canes lose game one. The Internet fucking explodes. The Canes go, oh, my God, we've. We lost another game one of the Eastern Conference finals. All this shit.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And the rest you know, I'm the. I'm the anti rest guy. Not even you. I'm saying this fucking three month break is a nightmare. So all the signs on earth, on earth are pointing to the Canes to lose this game. They lose game ones they haven't played in a million years.

[Dan]

They've literally never won a game one of the Eastern Conference finals. Yes. The game seven versus a sweep. Shit pumps them.

[Zach]

Yes.

[Dan]

Like they are haunted by ghosts.

[Zach]

Everything is a nightmare. But for that reason, I think the Canes do win tonight because they are going, boys, we are different. This is the chance to prove it. And Montreal was kind of limping into that Buffalo game one. Maybe they learned a lesson, but they felt like that. So I think the Kains win. Give me the Kains tonight. But it's going to be a bloodbath this year. I don't think anyone rolls in this. And the Kains better be ready for that shit because I'm not sure they are ready for how. I'm not sure they are ready for that aura, Zack, to be honest with you. They think they are, but they are not.

[Dennis]

They're not ready for that aura. Not even ready.

[Dan]

The Habs aura is real. It's so real. And the Kain's ghosts are real. And the question is, are we ghost hunters or are we. Who gets notoriously killed by ghosts in movies?

[Zach]

Mmm.

[Chris]

Like butlers and like, you know, like people who like see the ghosts in the beginning or like gas station attendants.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Oh. Girls fucking in camps. Boys fucking in camps.

[Dan]

People fuck teenagers fucking fucking in dark, dirty areas often get killed by.

[Zach]

So we got to find out if the canes are people fucking in dark, dirty areas.

[Dan]

Owen Wilson gets his head.

[Chris]

Oh, in the haunting.

[Dan]

Yeah, yeah. Haunting dude. His head is decapitated from his body.

[Chris]

Yeah. By like a lion statue or something.

[Dan]

Yeah. It's like a swinging pendulum out of the fireplace. Damn.

[Chris]

Great film.

[Dan]

Yeah, spooky film.

[Zach]

Spooky.

[Dan]

This is the conjuring potentially for the Kains. You don't want it to be the conjuring. You want it to be something much better. But they've got to go.

[Zach]

They want it to be Ghostbusters.

[Dan]

They've got to be Ghostbusters. Someone get them their proton packs because they have ghosts to bust if they.

[Zach]

If the Kanes walk into the game tonight in Ghostbuster costumes, not only are they winning this game, but they are sweeping the Canadiens and it's now it's their move. Like literally show up in Ghostbusters suits if you want to Win. And if you don't want to win, then you will be haunted by ghosts

[Dan]

the rest of your life. This is such a good idea.

[Zach]

It's that simple, dude. It just show up in a Ghostbuster costume or get swept out of Eastern Conference finals. The choice is yours.

[Dan]

I. I would accept fans doing that too.

[Zach]

Fans. Okay.

[Dan]

If Kane's fans arrive in Ghostbusters costumes, that will be a good way to bust the ghosts. Because there are ghosts all over that arena. I promise you.

[Zach]

You haven't won a game one ever in your franchise history in this round.

[Dan]

Correct.

[Zach]

Bust those ghosts or they will bust on you.

[Dan]

And no one wants to get slimed. No.

[Chris]

Busting makes me feel good.

[Zach]

Yeah, it does make me feel good, too.

[Chris]

Yeah, but it's in the song.

[Dan]

Yeah, I hope so. No one wants Ghostbust on you. It's sticky. It's ectoplasm. We don't like that.

[Dennis]

What up? Can I. Can we shout out a comment right here? Julian Cruz 7029 said, we're crossing streams to bust the Habs.

[Dan]

Incredible, Julian. You get it, partner. You gotta cross the stream. People think you shouldn't cross the stream. They say never cross the stream.

[Zach]

No, but you do.

[Dan]

But you've got to cross the stream. We got to bust these ghosts. So I think the Canes can do it. It feels like a night for history.

[Zach]

Yeah, doesn't it? Yes, it does, Dan. That's what I'm saying. There's so much going against them. Sometimes when you have to read the leaves, when you go, oh, it's all going against you. So it's going to keep going against you. Sometimes there's so much going against you that it actually goes for you. It goes so against you that it spins all the way around and is actually going for you.

[Dan]

Here's my I will say message for Habs fans that I do genuinely believe. I think there is zero pressure for this Montreal team.

[Zach]

That's correct.

[Dan]

I. We've seen the aura is growing. Zach's right. And we've seen the fandom getting so fired up. You're back in an Eastern Conference final. That's incredible. And there's obviously that. This is the youngest team to make it to an Eastern conference final since 93. Guess who that was. The Habs. I know there's a bunch of history that feeds into the aura, but I'm telling you right now, if this. If this Habs team loses in this round, if they get swept, which I don't think they will, it doesn't matter. You are so ahead of schedule. You're playing with house money and you've got all of the demons working in your corner. Like every. Every bit of history and every bit of spooksville is anti Cane's, dude.

[Zach]

It's.

[Dan]

There's. Is there any narrative that's like, well, if the. If the habs lose this, blah, blah. No, there's no single narrative of that. So you are just fucking laughing. Laugh your way to the bank here, dude.

[Zach]

This is. This is the scene in Return of the King where, you know, Nick Suzuki jumps over the edge of the boat to. To face the Canes.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And they go, just you. That's what we have to beat. And then a billion green ghosts come pouring out of the boat and attack the Carolina Hurricanes. That is exactly what's happening right now. The Montreal Canadiens have just pulled into Raleigh with the army of the dead and they will not be released until the Canes have. Have been eliminated.

[Dan]

That is correct, man.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Dan]

If they start winning, it's because there are ghosts on their side. And. And that is well played by Nick Suzuki to. To have the right sword and go into the fucking caves and battle the ghost King and get him on your arm.

[Dennis]

Me.

[Zach]

That's what they did.

[Dan]

Incredible.

[Zach]

All right.

[Dan]

Incredible stuff.

[Zach]

Let's. Let's shout out Aaron.

[Dan]

Oh, yeah. Thank you. I literally have it written down right in front of me. I can't believe I was about to move on. Montreal already has a championship.

[Zach]

Hell yes. And Dan, it has been the year of the double.

[Dan]

It has been the year of the double.

[Zach]

The men and the women won Olympic gold in hockey.

[Dan]

Yep.

[Zach]

The women just won the cup in hockey in Montreal.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Zach]

So if the men win the cup in Montreal, it is the year of the double.

[Dan]

Montreal pdub. Walter cup champs. Shout out Aaron Ambrose. Shout out Haley Skamura. Shout out Pooh.

[Zach]

Yep.

[Dan]

Shout out Laura. What a wagon of a win. 4 nothing. Was talking to Aaron on Facetime last night. Gas and beers. Custom beers that had them like, really three championship on there. I was like, how do you make.

[Zach]

That was already.

[Dan]

It was unbelievable. But Shout out Walter cup champs. Montreal rights. Let's go. I. That. I. I was on them heavy big early. People were like, who do you like this year? And I was like, montreal's getting it done. They fucking got it done, dude.

[Zach]

I was hilarious. Because when the women lost, the Canadian women lost the gold. You know, we send. I send Aaron a nice text is like, hey, sorry, you know, you. You were awesome. Blah, blah, blah. And then it was sick to text her last Night being like, hey, way sicker texts this time. Yeah, let's fucking go. She was fired up. I hope she's still awake. I hope she hasn't slept a wink.

[Dan]

I agree. That's what you got to do. Yeah. Like generational run. Partying here. You just won the cup.

[Zach]

Let's go.

[Dan]

Great episode. Great stuff. We'll all watch the game tonight. We will. What are we doing? Are we recording tonight?

[Zach]

Oh, you got happy hour. Grubs is paying.

[Chris]

No, we're going live tomorrow.

[Dan]

Going live tomorrow. That makes me so happy. 9am going live tomorrow. Grubs is paying for happy hour.

[Zach]

Yeah, we have to go. We have a company mandate. We have to go watch the game with Grubs. And he's paying.

[Dennis]

Yep.

[Zach]

I'm serious.

[Chris]

Who is Grubs?

[Dan]

Cahill works with us.

[Chris]

Cahill?

[Zach]

Yeah. He's your co worker.

[Chris]

Yeah. I don't. I don't call people by their last name. All these nickname shit you guys do, just call them by their name.

[Dan]

That's so true.

[Chris]

Fucking nickname bullshit.

[Dan]

We literally call him Dr. Watkins.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Yeah. Now I'm getting fucking text messages to be like, do you want to be a radiologist in Kentucky for 150,000? I should do it.

[Zach]

I should take it.

[Dan]

50k, dude, that's definitely.

[Zach]

Do you just say. Do you concur? Do you concur?

[Chris]

Yeah, doctor.

[Dan]

And they go, holy shit, this guy's the real deal.

[Zach]

Yeah, why didn't I concur?

[Dan]

Unbelievable.

[Dennis]

Would he be a better. Do we think he'd be a better doctor than the scam dentist you were dealing with?

[Dan]

Whoa, dude, Wong. Wong was not a scam dentist. Wong was just a one man operation. And I'm a bougie bitch. I need bells and whistles in my dentist's office. There are. You know what I would sooner. I would sooner walk into a doctor's office that looks like it's in Mogadishu and to get zipped up, than I would go into a dirty dentist. I need my dentist to make me feel like a safe child. Little boy. Otherwise I'm spooked.

[Zach]

Do you mean literally dirty?

[Dan]

No, I don't want it to be literally dirty, but like old, sketchy, shitty building.

[Zach]

Yeah, it does need to be blindingly white everywhere.

[Dan]

No, I don't need that. Like, I don't know why doctor's offices. I suppose they need it because they need to see everything really well. And if you had like warm colors on the walls, that probably isn't great

[Zach]

for like, that tooth looks fine. Like there's a hole.

[Dan]

Yeah, but, I mean, dude, I've been zipped up in some gnarly rooms in my hockey days, so I don't care about that. Like, now, I don't want open surgery in a fucking shitty, sketchy place, but I go into a scary dentist, and that's that. Spooksville. Yeah, like, I'm on the canes. Don't like it.

[Zach]

No. Get me Ghostbusters.

[Dan]

Get me Ghostbusters. Okay, let's wrap up this episode. Beautiful stuff, folks. We will see you live tomorrow after this game. Let's see if the Canes can make history.

[Zach]

Bang.