Kings Cups, Kessel Stories, and Hating Boston College with Alec Martinez

Summary

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Empty Netters Podcast – Episode Summary

Episode: "Kings Cups, Kessel Stories, and Hating Boston College with Alec Martinez"

Air Date: April 2, 2026
Hosts: Dan Powers, Dr. Evan Watkins, Chris Powers
Guest: Alec Martinez

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Episode Overview

This episode of the Empty Netters Podcast delivers everything hockey fans love: wild playoff races, passionate team debates, hilarious personal stories, and a truly in-depth interview with three-time Stanley Cup champ Alec Martinez. The hosts dive into current NHL chaos—goalie fights, surging and slumping teams—before transitioning into a jaw-droppingly honest (and funny) conversation with Martinez about his journey from college hockey to NHL glory, plus memories of Kessel, the challenge of balancing school and pro life, and legendary food spots from Michigan to LA. Throughout: signature Empty Netters banter, nostalgia, and plenty of chirping.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Wild Card and Playoff Race Chaos (01:14 – 14:15)

• Goalie Fights:
  • The hosts riff on the rise in goalie brawls, poking fun at the "Russian Movement" as several recent fights feature Russian goalies.
  • "It's the hot trend right now. People are playing Pokémon and they're getting in goalie fights." – Dan (02:08)
  • Confirm through guest Evan: 279 fights so far this season, slightly down from 297 last year, but goalie fights are definitely up.
• Eastern / Western Conference Races:
  • Breakdown of recent game results and implications for the playoff picture, with running jokes about “nothing burger” games and “mondo burgers” for big results.
  • The hosts declare the Bruins “in” for the playoffs ("Boston has dropped their nuts on the table in these last 15 games." – Dan, 07:52).
  • Extended riff on which teams "control their own destiny," with the surprising revelation: the Sharks might actually be in the playoff driver's seat due to games in hand.
• Fraud Watch for Detroit:
  • "Detroit needs to win their next three straight games or they are officially on fraud watch. Permanently." – Dan (10:06)
• Statistical Musings:
  • The team debates rising fight numbers, streaky teams, and the MVP race, especially Macklin Consielbrini's historic run.

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Around The NHL: Players and Trophies (14:15 – 23:02)

• Ovechkin’s Milestone:
  • Ovechkin notches 30 goals for the 20th time in 21 seasons—at age 40—joining Legends like Howe, Busick, Selanne.
  • "He is just such an embodiment of good for hockey…Sub [and] Cheetos in hand. Flaming hot." – Dan (14:38)
• MVP Art Ross Debate:
  • Heated discussion on “who deserves the MVP?” between McDavid, Kucherov, MacKinnon, and the young phenom Macklin Consielbrini.
  • "If those Sharkies win these two games and get themselves into playoffs, I'm giving it to Macklin and it's not even a question." – Dan (17:19)
• Norris, Calder, and Other Award Talk:
  • Discussion on Bouchard vs. Werenski and Calder eligibility rules:
    • "I will never, ever, ever, ever think Evan Bouchard is having a better season than Zack Werenski...You can give him 150 points." – Dan (20:11)

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Interview: Alec Martinez Breakdown

Path to the NHL and Balancing School (24:26 – 31:09)

• Accounting Degree Completion While in NHL:
  • "Of all the crazy shit dudes who have been on the show have done, that might be number one." – Dan (24:28)
  • "I made a promise to my parents...staring down the barrel of an NHL contract...like, yeah, finished school, no problem..." – Alec Martinez (24:41)
  • Stories of doing schoolwork and exams between games and playoff runs, often pranked or sabotaged by teammates.

College Days and Boston College “Hatred” (31:09 – 41:00)

• Choosing Miami of Ohio:
  • Influences included notable coaches like Jeff Blashill and John Cooper, and being ghosted by Michigan.
  • "No Eagles in this family." – Alec (35:46)
• B.C. as Miami's Kryptonite:
  • Every college season ended thanks to Boston College; Martinez holds playful but persistent grudge.
  • Discussion on NCAA tournament seeding unfairness:
    • "Those games should be home ice—neutral cities are such a waste." – Dan (37:15)

The Kings Cup Runs: Inside the Room (41:00 – 57:00)

• 2012 LA Kings’ Insane Playoff Run:
  • Eighth seed, massive underdog, but the Kings "sprinted" through the playoffs 16–4, up 3–0 in every series.
  • "Quickie was insane...one of the most unbelievable runs of all time...he was making saves that, like, no human had any business making." – Martinez (41:42)
  • "Did I really get the playoff experience? Because I was up every game three, nothing…" – Martinez (43:11)
• Rooming with Jonathan Quick in the Minors:
  • Pranks, sleeping through alarms, possibly responsible for Quick being in LA ("If he ever gets labrum repair surgery or something, it's probably me yanking him so hard." – Martinez, 44:41)
• Quickie’s Impact and Not Talking About Streaks:
  • The reality of riding the hot hand, but trying not to let superstition or comfort corrupt focus.

2014: From 0-3 Down to Game 7 Heroes (53:29 – 65:23)

• Unpacking the 2014 Miracle Run:
  • The only team to come back from 0-3 down in modern NHL playoffs and win the cup that year.
  • Importance of "riding experience without living in the past."
• Scoring Legendary OT Goals:
  • Martinez discusses the pressure and blackout-moment of scoring the Game 7 OT winner vs. Chicago, and the double-OT Cup clincher vs. the Rangers.
    • "I just feel very fortunate...But like, I genuinely don't think about it. People bring it up to me, but...I genuinely don't care that it was me, right? I just wanted to win." – Martinez (62:19)
  • Higher value placed on seeing veteran teammates win for the first time.

Life After LA: Vegas and Chicago, Kessel Stories, Career Reflections (67:25 – 82:09)

• Vegas Cup Run and Quick Reunion:
  • Emotional payoff: handing Quick the Cup as a former LA teammate.
    • "It was honestly, like, I mean, I was fortunate to have some pretty cool moments in my career, and that was one of the best. It has to be, like..." – Martinez (74:49)
  • Quick’s and wife Jackie’s party/locker room impact in Vegas.
• Phil Kessel Locker Room Antics:
  • Recaps the infamous outdoor Marshy-Kessel headbutt story ("I was right there. I saw the whole thing." – Martinez, 69:18) and Kessel’s legendary “just get it done” approach.
• Retirement, TV, and Life Balance:
  • Reluctance to enter TV, prioritizing being a dad, career transitions, and why he started "The AM Rewind" YouTube channel to showcase unseen hockey skill and intelligence.
  • "I just don't want to jump at the first thing and it be the wrong thing...how lucky am I to be able to hang them up?" – Martinez (84:00)
• Reflections on teammates, giving Cup to Quick, and lessons for aspiring players.

Pass, Shoot, Score: Rapid Fire Fun with Martinez (84:19 – 97:04)

• Martinez Ranks His Favorite Foods & Places From Michigan and NHL Road:
  • Go-to: “Two Coneys and a Greek salad”—La Pumas Coney Island in Rochester, MI
  • DQ cones with cherry dip, emotional date story with wife at Dairy Queen
• Best NHL Road Meals:
  • LA’s Bottle Inn, Vancouver’s Italian Kitchen (“truffle spaghetti and meatballs” with Dustin Brown).
• Favorite Non-Fiction Books, Lions Players, Movies
  • #1 book: Fearless (Adam Brown)
  • Lions: “Cut me open, I bleed Honolulu blue”
  • Movie: "Forrest Gump is, hands down, my number one."

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Franchise Heartbreak:
  • "We had a BC problem. 100%. Those guys ended every year in my college." – Alec Martinez (35:25)
• On Playoff Insanity:
  • "I just want a Stanley Cup. This is incredible. But did I really get the playoff experience? Because I was up every game three nothing." – Martinez (43:11)
• On Being a Teammate Over Self:
  • "I genuinely don't care that it was me [who scored the Cup winner]. I just wanted to win." – Alec Martinez (62:19)
• On Quick’s Impact in Vegas:
  • "He and Jackie left such a big impact, and that organization loves him." – Martinez (77:03)
• On Retirement and TV:
  • "I just want to try stuff...I'm trying not to say no to anything within reason…" – Martinez (80:25)
• On Legacy:
  • "Sharing [the Cup] with people you care about is far better than any goal that you could ever score." – Martinez (66:38)

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Important Segment Timestamps

| Segment | Timestamp | |---------------------------------------|-------------| | Goalie Fight/Fight Trend Discussion | 01:14–05:11 | | Wild Card Race Deep Dive | 05:11–14:15 | | Ovechkin, MVP, Trophies Talk | 14:15–23:02 | | Alec Martinez Interview Begins | 24:26 | | College Days/B.C. Rivalry | 31:09–41:00 | | Kings’ Cup Run/Quick Roommate Stories | 41:00–53:29 | | 2014 Playoff Run (Down 0-3 Comeback) | 53:29–65:23 | | Vegas, Kessel, Post-Playing Life | 67:25–82:09 | | Pass, Shoot, Score Game | 84:19–97:04 |

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Additional Fun & Off-Topic Segments

Movie/Pop Culture Hot Takes (124:01 – 140:49)

• Extended debate on Ryan Gosling’s top 10 movie roles, analogies to hockey careers, and nostalgic tales of midnight movie premieres.

Hockey Betting & Odds Analysis (110:01 – 122:22)

• The hosts’ infamous “Professor Puckline” picks, recap their betting record, and spin their traditional poetic game previews.

Not Ice / Life Advice & Pop Culture (122:33 – 140:49)

• More movie talk and reminiscing about cinema, ending with their “connective tissue” hockey name game.

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Closing Remarks

This episode is a showcase of how the Empty Netters Podcast blends high-level hockey commentary, deep cutting interviews, and irreverent humor with a genuine love for the sport. Alec Martinez delivers one of the most grounded and open interviews in recent hockey podcasting, shining both as a storyteller and as someone grateful for his unique journey—anchored by personal promises, family, and an unwavering team-first mentality.

For more:

• Find Martinez’s channel: The AM Rewind on YouTube
• Follow Empty Netters for behind-the-scenes content, more interviews, and classic hockey banter every Tuesday & Thursday.

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Transcript

[A]

Welcome to the Empty Netters podcast.

[B]

Can you believe what this has become?

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There's a full 48 hours where I felt like I was like literally Superman.

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Jumbo loves playing Fortnite. So does he. Gets on the sticks. Did TR show you the sauna cycle or was that already.

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No, I invented that. Almost a year now that I haven't taken a body check.

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That's kind of nice.

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So we are back. We are horned up and we are going deep.

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Finished tonight with some chicken fingers and a few Guinnesses. Ran into you guys.

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And that's where this pod came to life. Ice is ready. And we're back with another. Another episode of the Empty Netters podcast, brought to you by BetMGM. I'm your host, Dan Powers, on the sticks and cancer free Dr. Evan Watkins.

[B]

Thank you.

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Yes, I have. I've beat. Well, the team of radiologists at Keck USC beat cancer. I just laid down on a table

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and you let them beat the cancer.

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You let them beat you. They beat you off. They beat you off.

[D]

They beat off my cancer.

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You got your cancer. Beat the fuck off.

[D]

Thank you. Yeah, that's pretty sick for now. I feel pretty good. Thank you.

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That's pretty, pretty sick. And over here to my left, a man who can't make a reservation for shit. Chris Powers.

[B]

I thought you were going to go. Who is a cancer?

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Are you really? What's your sign?

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I would have also. Holy voices. We're firing. We are snapping it around as always.

[B]

As always.

[A]

We are snapping it around right now. This is fantastic. All right, folks, we've got a huge episode for you today. Alec Martinez joins the show. Unbelievable interview. We're getting into the crazy, crazy madness that continues to go on with the wild card race. Up is down, left is right. Everyone's drunk. It's insane. We've got a goalie fight. We've got Torts as the new coach. It's all mental. Let's get on into it. Let's start with the goalie fight.

[B]

Dude, what is everyone doing? I'm actually now like, calm down, goalies.

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Enough. We are one.

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We can't be fighting all the time, dude.

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We are one away from getting a. Calm down.

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I wanted him so bad. Now I can't. I don't want him. No way.

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I got a text from Foose yesterday.

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Oh, shit.

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Shut up, Foose.

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Shut up, Foose.

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Foose texted me and he was like, how often do goalie fights happen? And I was like, they're incredibly rare. And he was at the game and he was like, I'm here and the goalie fights happening. And I was like, yeah, it's the hot trend right now.

[B]

It's everybody.

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People are playing Pokemon and they're getting in goalie fights.

[D]

I have a question. Does it feel like fights are up this season just in general or. No?

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I would love to get that data. Yeah, I'd love to get that. It just feels like I don't feel that way.

[D]

It feels like to me and you guys have been paying more attention the past few seasons, but it feels like the last time I saw this many fights, it was like 10 or 15 years ago or something. I don't know. Maybe people are more angry. It's. Climate change is getting.

[B]

Climate change is insane. I would also buy it that people are going. Fights are.

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I have an idea.

[D]

You think so?

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Why don't you Google it right now?

[D]

I'll look.

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I don't know if there's numbers for how many fights. I bet that's on Google.

[B]

Could be.

[D]

How many fights Is it real, though?

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I feel like how many fights have happened so far this NHL season and then do last season too. Yeah, listen. Two teams that are out of the playoffs. It's a tri state rivalry matchup. The goalies won at it. That's pretty fun, dude.

[B]

Listen, I know I was just saying enough. But they are fun. I'll always take a goalie fight at

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this point in the year. I've said many times I am a fair weather fan and if your team's bad, I don't expect you to be locked in. You don't need to be. You got other things to do. You have a life. Find other hobbies, people.

[B]

Yep.

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When there is a barn full of Devils and Rangers fans at this point in the season when both teams are essentially mathematically eliminated for playoffs. Pretty sick.

[B]

To get a goalie, you get a goalie fight.

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Those fans deserve it.

[B]

What I thought was cool was actually, I thought a lot of things were cool in the past. Have you seen those clips of Shesty when there's kind of a scrum in front of the net? He goes into the goal.

[A]

Yeah.

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Because he's like, don't fucking goes into his turtle shit.

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Yeah.

[B]

And I'm like, that's amazing. So in this one, Shesty was kind of taking some shots.

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Sure.

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At a Devil's player. And then Markstrom's like, I don't fuck with that. He comes all the way down. Very cool. To the fans. Also, the ref tries to stop him. Like, the ref is like literally going. He's like, hey, And Markstrom's like, yep.

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And also he's about to jump Shesty. And Shesty's like, let me take my shit off, dude. My helmet's on. And, like, there was a moment where he took his helmet up. He's like, are you gonna punch me before I even get set? It was so Marky was horny.

[B]

Me too. And I love a horny Markey, and that's great.

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Yeah.

[B]

That being said, Chesty, I kind of thought fed him a little bit.

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I agree. I think Shesty got the better of

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that fight because he was getting the jabs in and then the big throws that Marky had kind of missed. And then he also got the takedown. It was just a whole. There was a whole ordeal.

[A]

We saw Sway go against Vassi. We saw. Who was it Mers Leakins, who went against Bob? Who did Bob fight? Look that up for me. I think it was Merzleekins.

[D]

But it was this season, right?

[C]

Yeah.

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Yeah. And then we got. Now Markey going up against Shosturkin. We've got Nadelkovka, Nadelkovich. I knew it was one of the fun last.

[D]

Oh, there's 279 fights this season.

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Okay.

[D]

And last season there was, like, 297.

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Okay. Okay.

[D]

So I think it's actually going to be a little under last season.

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It might be right there. This is actually.

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We're on.

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We don't have many.

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I didn't realize. We're on.

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Fight.

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Way more goalie fights.

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Yep.

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And everyone knows that each goalie fight counts as 20.

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Ah, there we go.

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So we're above bang, but we've got all. All the goalie fights have been Russian involvement.

[B]

Very true, Dan. Very interesting. Shesty said he thought his first fight would be against Sorokin.

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Good or bad for the Russian movement?

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Bad, because all they do is war,

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war, war, war, war, war, war, war, war. We're Russians.

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We love war.

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We love fighting war. Get a new shtick.

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Okay. Calm down.

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Just relax. Then again, providing entertainment for the league.

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Good.

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Then again, there's no fighting in Olympics. So what are you even bringing to the table?

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Yeah.

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Time to rethink your strategy. Your war strategy.

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Anyway, shout out Markstrom and Chesty. Thanks for doing it. And good job, Chesty. I would say that's a winning decision.

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Agree. Wild card update. Do you want to rip through the games like you did last episode?

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Yes.

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And let me react.

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Monday, the Pens beat the aisles 8 to 3.

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The pens are red hot. And listen, that's a big result.

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That's a Big.

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That was a big result. 3 3.

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Remember, we were recording and I was like, whoa, it's three three.

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Yeah, it was. I, I, I actually, I'm curious if people who watch the episode saw me visibly react. At one point, I looked down, it was seven three pens.

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And I was like.

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I was almost like breaking news, by the way, but we were in the middle of something.

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The Knights beat the Canucks 42 in torts. First game.

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Nothing burger for me as far as the wild card race, but very big for Momo.

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Big burger in the Pacific race for sure. And torts. I thought there was a little transformation from the nights between period one and two and two. He said, go score. And they were like, yes.

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Oh, we can do that.

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Okay, great. The Ducks lost to the Leafs 54 in overtime.

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Nothing burger in the Pacific. I know it's still close in the Pacific, but I'm not fazed by it because they still have that game in hand on Edmonton and Vegas. However, Mondo Burger for the Boston Bruins. Yes. Need the Toronto Maple Leafs to win some.

[B]

Dude, I had the same thought also. I will say this, and I love the Ducklings, and I love. And I'm so excited for them, and I want them to win the Pacific that I have. I haven't been a Pacific defender by any means, but I have been kind of like, well, leave the Ducks out of this. They're fine. And then it's funny to watch a team who's, like, last place in the east, who's also trying to lose, beat the. I'm like, oh, the Pacific's horrible. Like, you tough. Look for the Pacific, the Sharks beat

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the blues 54 legitimately.

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Hang around.

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Okay, Sharks, I declared you dead, and obviously I did not like to do that. I love the Sharkies, and you're two points out of a spot. Yep, you're alive.

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Tuesday, the Bruins beat the Stars 6 3. Are the Bruins in? Is it over?

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I think I'm not gonna say that. Every declaration I have made. Actually, that's not true. Every declaration I've made is currently correct, but not.

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Surely, I knocked the Caps out of the playoffs. I'm not kicking down my door.

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I'm not going to make a declaration. But I will piggyback on something I tweeted. The way Boston has dropped their nuts on the table in these last 15 games is very impressive to see.

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I'll say it. Or for me, you don't have to say anything. For you, Bruins have made playoffs. I don't know. They could drop wild cards.

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That was a monster Win.

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Bruins have made playoffs. Congratulations.

[A]

Victor Arvidson.

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One of the great signing.

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There are a bunch of Oilers fans who are like this. Thanks for taking that off our books, Boston, you idiots. And I'm like this. He's fantastic.

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20 fucking 23 goals up your ass.

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Yeah, fuck you, dude. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it. And then stick the pipe between your cheeks and then puff it.

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Yeah.

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Wait. Out your mouth or.

[B]

No, no, out the. Out the pipe like you smoke it.

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Blowing smoke rings with your butt.

[B]

And then you put the pipe in your butt and then you blow smoke

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rings with your butt out the pipe.

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Put your head up the butcher's ass

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from Tommy Boy and see a steak. Something like that.

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T bone.

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Yeah.

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If I want to see a T boat. Put my head up the bull's ass.

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Something like that.

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Great movie.

[B]

The Isles lost to the Sabres four three. Big, big aisles struggling.

[A]

No. But Isles are in third. Yep.

[B]

The Habs beat the Bolts four one. Habs are fucking buzzing.

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Absolutely on fire when one six straight. They are. They. They are. They're firing at the right time.

[B]

Sends lost to the Panthers 6 3.

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Just can't happen. Also, Matthew, that's your brother.

[B]

Yeah. Wow. Good point.

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What's wrong with you?

[B]

He can't have anything.

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What's wrong with you, dude?

[B]

Like, you have the one year off. He can't have anything.

[A]

Brutal.

[B]

Pens beat the wings 5 1.

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Completely. That's completely unacceptable. But the Pens, after getting a little leaky, are kind of surging. And that was a game Detroit needed Larkin back in the lineup on the score sheet. He's been back in the lineup. Like, what I'm trying to say is. Larkin. They need Larkin back.

[B]

Larkin's back.

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They need Larkin's playback here. He was getting on the score sheet immediately, but it wasn't enough.

[B]

Caps beat the Flyers 6 4.

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Really funny. Yeah, because Caps hanging around, hanging around.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And the Flyers. Fuck, they battled back so many times in that game, too, I thought they were going to tie it.

[A]

I want to backtrack. Detroit needs to win their next three straight games or they are. They are officially on fraud watch. Permanently. Permanently.

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For the rest of their franchise existence.

[B]

No, no, dude, we know what happen. And the people of Detroit don't want to hear this, but you drop the watch.

[A]

Like, if you don't win, you're not on fraud watch.

[B]

You are frauds.

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The next three straight games need to be wins or you are frauds.

[B]

Jackets lost to the Canes 5 2.

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Brutal, but tough game.

[B]

Yep. And the jets beat the Hawks absolutely

[A]

Yeah, they battle insane that the Winnipeg Jets. The jets of Winnipeg are a point out of a playoffs.

[B]

Unbelievable. Who?

[A]

The Jets?

[B]

Yeah, the Jets. I thought they folded the frame. I thought they moved back to Atlanta.

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I said they were the. I said they were the worst jets since 9 11.

[B]

Yeah, now they're in here.

[A]

They're a playoffs.

[B]

They heard you.

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They were very offended. They were incredibly offended. And that didn't even happen to their country. Stolen valor. Now they're just shoving it up my hoop. Insane.

[D]

What?

[B]

The jets are doing awesome. Dude. We got to make them a fucking. Never mind.

[C]

No, not.

[A]

We're not making that T shirt, Chris.

[D]

Wait, wait. This is where we're going to put the ad in for the. For the T shirts.

[B]

Go ahead and.

[D]

Yeah, if you want.

[A]

This is where our ad for United Airlines comes in.

[B]

And then the spunk lost to the Oilers. Spunk might be dead.

[A]

Spunk might be dead. And the Oilers, they're looking good. Can you believe this?

[B]

They won four straight for the first time all year.

[A]

Yeah. Oilers lose.

[B]

Dry side.

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They're unbelievable.

[B]

Fucking crazy. Okay, Standings as of recording right now in the east, the habs are in third. 74 played, 96 points. The Pens are in second in the Met. 75 played, 92 points. Isles in third. 76 played, 89 points. Penn's looking pretty good with that game in hand and cushion. Wild Card 1. Bruins 75, played 94 points. Wildcard 2. Jackets, 75 played 88 points. Sends out 74, 86. Wings out 74, 86. Flyers out 74, 86. Caps out 75, 85.

[A]

Every single one of these teams is in it.

[B]

Yep, every single one in the West. And dude, the Jackets are actually catching so many breaks. Like, they keep choosing and then the Sens, Wings and Flyers.

[A]

But you can make the argument everyone is. Yeah, it's happening in the west, as you'll get into.

[B]

Except for the Bees. The Bees dropping nuts. The aisles because like.

[A]

And the Habs. Habs.

[B]

Habs. Habs because the aisles honestly are third. But 76, 89. The blue jacket, 7588. With that game in hand, like, the aisles are. Are jumping on. On thin ice.

[C]

Sure.

[B]

In the West, Vegas third of the Pacific, 7582. Utah wild card one 7482. Preds wild card 274, 77. Kings out 73, 76. Jets out 74, 76. Sharks out 72, 75. That 72 is awesome. Spunk out 73, 75.

[A]

Everyone's in it, including the Spunk. Okay, I do want to say this, and this is a message to Kings fans and to the LA Kings team. The fact that this. The Kings vibes are quite low right now, and I think a lot of Kings players are like, fucking damn it.

[B]

Christ.

[A]

We've lost a bunch of games we can't lose. And you still control your own destiny. You win the one game in hand, you have. You are in the playoffs.

[B]

It's incredible.

[A]

That is a great feeling.

[B]

Use that. Use that. Channel it, channel it, channel it. Channel spunk's very much in, actually. Sharks very much in. Sharks, actually.

[A]

Everyone's in.

[B]

Sharks are like, in the driver's seat.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, if you consider the fact that the Sharks have only played 72 games.

[B]

So, actually, Dan, the Kings don't. I thought the Kings control their own destiny.

[A]

The Sharks do.

[B]

They actually don't.

[A]

The Sharks control. It's just so many games. It's three. Like, okay, one win is different than three straight wins, but.

[B]

Yeah, but it's only two.

[A]

It's two.

[B]

Yeah. So it's like. That's actually interesting. I was kind of.

[A]

One win is less than one. One win is less than two.

[B]

That is true. And two is less than three. But the Sharks right now control their own destiny for the wild card, too.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's amazing. So, yeah. Wow.

[A]

Fucking hell.

[B]

I was kind of like, man, the boys are in trouble. But they're not. They're fine.

[A]

They're fine. Well, they're not fine.

[B]

They have time to go through their schedule, but I really want to.

[A]

Okay, that is the wild card race. Things continue to be drunk as hell, and then every time we get these two day breaks, no one really pulls ahead. Yep.

[B]

It's unbelievable.

[A]

All right, let's talk Ovi real quick. 30 goals last night. 20th time in 21 seasons. 4th player in NHL history to score 30 goals at the age of 40 or older. Joining Gordie Howe, Johnny Busick and Team Usolani. Unbelievable.

[B]

Very sick. Gordie Howe. 44 is awesome. Or 44 is so dope.

[A]

Ovi being in his 40s, tucking 30 yet again and then showing up for the team bus with subway sub and Cheetos in hand. Flaming hot Cheetos. He is just such an embodiment of good for hockey. Yep, that image. Sub on ice is ready right now. Is good for hockey.

[B]

Did you just read this Gretzky thing or.

[A]

No, I did not.

[B]

I saw that. It was like. If you count his 77 playoff goals, OV has 1005 total NHL goals, just behind Gretzky who has 10, 16 and if the Caps get in, he could break it. I don't think he can break that this year, but if the Caps get in, he could break it and will. And if he plays next year, which

[A]

he will likely, but I'm declaring right now, OV is playing next year.

[B]

But it's just. It's hilarious that like Wayne O just can't. He's like, all right, dude, like you. You got it. It's never ending onslaught of breaking my goal scoring records. Give me a fucking break. But congrats, ovi. That's sick. Because after the start he had this year, I was like, oh, wow. He really was just chasing that record and then doesn't give a fuck.

[A]

It's true.

[B]

And he does give a fuck.

[A]

He do. He do give a fuck. He gives many fucks.

[B]

Okay, little trophy chase update.

[A]

Yeah, talk to me.

[B]

I and you. But I have been stroking off Cooch the last month as I'm like, here comes the Cooch. Five points a night onslaught like every year. And then he wins the Art Ross and then it's all over. But he has slowed down a bit and so have the bolts and. And McDavid has passed him. McDavid's 125 to 121. Coach still has seven less games. But Art Ross doesn't care about how many fucking games you played. It's how many points you have. And Now Nate's at 124 more games than Cooch. Three less than Conor. I two weeks ago was like, Cooch is winning this MVP in a landslide. But now I don't feel that's the case. What do you think?

[A]

I don't think it's the case at all. This has been. It is so weird. That stat I showed you that is like the rank league rankings cup winners in the last 10 years. They are always in. That was that. And the only team in the league that is in top five and everything is Tampa. That including Colorado only team is Tampa. That is when I'm like, they are the best team in the east and they are cup favorite. They probably are going to the cup. I have never seen a streakier cup favorite type of team. It's insane. And the fact that Kuch is streaky as well, I'm like, what is going on here? So I don't think it's a lock at all. I think he is insane. And frankly, Christopher, I'm going to sit here and say let Conor get the Art Ross and you cool off a little bit. Here. So you can be hot in the playoffs for the first time since you won the league.

[B]

Ooh, okay, that's interesting.

[A]

How about that?

[B]

Would you give it to Connor or Nate right now?

[A]

Mvp.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'll tell you what. I'm going to maintain what I've maintained all season long. If those Sharkies win these two games and they get themselves into playoffs, I'm giving it to Macklin. And it's not even a question.

[B]

Actually.

[A]

101 points.

[B]

Actually. He deserves it.

[A]

Mat Conceillebrini is only 16 years old

[B]

and he deserves it more than Conor and Nate. Right now with the way and everyone beats me there. I was like, the AVS stink. And everyone was like, you're an idiot. And I was like, I know the AVs don't stink.

[A]

The fact that there was a single comment on. I think it was on YouTube that was like. Yeah. The fact that you could say the. Are you fucking kidding me? Do you know what? The abs don't hyperbole. Sarcasm and joking is.

[B]

Fuck.

[A]

I'm talking about blowing pipe smoke out of a butthole. Relax.

[B]

The ABFS have cooled off. And with the entire season that the Oilers have had with like playing, they're in the worst division of all time. And they're in fucking second. If the Sharks make the playoffs. And even if they fucking don't.

[A]

No, no, they have to make.

[B]

If they make the playoffs, Macklin should win it.

[A]

If they make the playoffs, dude, he will win. Let me ask you a question really quick.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Rapid fire. And then we're going to move on. Have we talked this year about Connor McDavid at all? Yes. Just rapid fire. Nikita kucherov. Yes. Nathan McKinnon?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Mac Consolibrini?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Leon Draisaitl?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

David Posternak?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Nick Suzuki?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Mark Scheifele?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Jason Robertson?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

You know who I haven't talked about? Who? Marty Naches.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

And Marty Naches has 92 points, tied for seventh in the league. And we don't need to spend a lot of time in it, but we just like to give some double wristers. I gave. You know who has been one of the best players in da league since the Olympic break?

[B]

Marty Natchez.

[A]

Nikolai Ehlers.

[B]

Oh, God.

[D]

Who?

[A]

Last night his three points matched his career high. He is fucking buzzing. Marty Nachos on the Colorado Avalanche is buzzing.

[B]

Dude, I was watching those highlights that Scotty sent of the cadre goals against the Flames and that nature's. It's been a great play by my car too, but the, the one touch from nature across. Like he is so not out of his depth on that team. Obviously on that team. But just when he goes out there with these megastars, he's like, I am. I am right here. I belong out here completely. He is fucking gross.

[A]

He is capital e elite.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

35 goals, 57 assists, 92 points.

[B]

Plus 40. Such a fucking season.

[A]

Plus 45. He's got what? How many games have they played? He's got like eight games to score eight points and get 100 points. Just do it.

[B]

Do it. Just do it.

[D]

Naughty by nature.

[B]

Yes. I like that a lot. We should put that on a shirt. There you go.

[A]

That's is a fucking shirt, Ev. There you go. That's someone who doesn't have cancer. Yeah, that's an idea from a cancer free.

[D]

No, that's. The cancer's giving me these ideas.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, that's the radiation.

[A]

The cancer is actually channeled into his brain giving him good ideas. We don't want to talk about what that's going to happen. Turn into later.

[D]

For now it's great having great hallucinations.

[B]

Norris, we had talked about this earlier. Bouchard is up to 86 points. Orensky at 78, Makar at 75. The Oilers still have seven games left. Yeah, if Boosh pushes that into mid 90s, he is going to win it. Just so you know.

[A]

I know.

[B]

I.

[A]

It's. I'm sorry. I will never, ever, ever, ever think Evan Bouchard is having a better season than Zach Rensky. Yep. You give him 150 points. I would still say he's not as good as were.

[B]

No, I agree. Rensky should win it. And also I was. Pronger said something the day that he was like, dahleen is getting my vote, which I love.

[A]

Love that also a lot of people. I. I said this the other fucking day, dude. Charlie McAvoy is in this conversation.

[B]

Yeah, he's been a better.

[A]

He said he is at the top of the list. And again, I'm sorry, Are you good at stopping the other team's best players? Yeah, because that's what you fucking should do as a defenseman. And some of the guys who get mentioned in this conversation are not good at that. Spare me with your fucking lame ass saber metrics graphic about like. Well, actually they're one of the best defensemen. No, they're fucking not. When push comes to shove, when some of these players are turning into spinning dreidels on the ice and go. They're great at defense. I know that can happen to anybody. But. Yep.

[B]

But he is going to win.

[A]

That matters to me.

[B]

Yes. And it doesn't matter to the Norris voters because clearly he will win. And frankly, if he gets to 90, what's his career high?

[A]

I don't want. I don't want to spend any more time on this. I think it's 92 points.

[B]

God. If that is right. You are so fucking deranged. His career high is 82. So maybe. Maybe you had something in your brain.

[A]

So he has passed his career high.

[B]

Yeah. Hiring did.

[A]

And good for you.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And he's a phenomenal player.

[B]

Mid 90s. They are going to give him that trophy. The Calder is going to shave daddy no matter what. But I will just wanted to say shout out Demidoff from the parking lot. He now leads rookies. That was very cool. Beckett and Schaefer. He's a 58. Beckett and Schaefer right there at 57. And the Schaefer's winning literally no matter what. If the Islanders fall all the way out of the playoffs, that will be cannon fodder for debate. But it doesn't matter. He's going to win.

[A]

Old head take by me. I don't like how people can win the Calder when they have played in the NHL the season prior. It doesn't matter how few games. I don't like it.

[B]

I kind of agree with that. But what if it was games? The game allowance is wicked high.

[A]

It's too high.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's because I agree. It sucks that certain players don't even get a chance to win rookie of the Year when they show up for playoffs. I'm like, they're a rookie. But I don't like it. I just. Just shortened up that game allowance.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's all I'm saying.

[B]

That would be okay. All right. We are actually. I had this. This is so random.

[A]

But what did.

[B]

It's April Fools today as we're recording. What did we do? Last year an episode came out on April Fools and we did something OV Retiring, I believe. Oh, maybe that was it.

[A]

Got some fuckers.

[B]

Yeah. People were in the comments like what the fuck? And we were like, April Fools, you fucking bitch.

[A]

And guess what you thought you weren't going to get again.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Alec Martinez is not on this episode. No, I'm just kidding. He totally is. We're going to take a break right now and then we will jump into that inter. Alec Martinez.

[B]

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[C]

Use it.

[B]

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[C]

AKA a huge nerd.

[A]

Of all the crazy shit. Of all the crazy shit dudes who have been on the show have done, that might be number one. That might be number one.

[C]

It was awful, too.

[A]

What possessed you to do that?

[C]

I made a promise to my parents. Like, I. Yep.

[A]

Good answer.

[C]

Like, going into my.

[A]

Good answer.

[C]

Going into my junior year, I was like, I was drafted and I was like, I just want to have a good enough year where I'm presented with a tough decision. Yeah. And like, do I sign or come back? I ended up signing. And it's like, my parents were great. They're like, we support you either way. Just, you have to promise to finish. And like, I'm 19 or 20, and it's like I'm staring down the barrel of a NHL contract. I'm like, oh, yeah. Finished school, like, no problem. I only got a year left. And then I went back, like, my first couple years pro, like in the summer and took classes. But it's like, man, trying to wrap your head around, like, trying to write a paper after.

[A]

I cannot imagine.

[C]

I was an accounting Major. So I was in like the business school. So like, any writing that I did that last two years of school was all like business writing, like short and to the point. And then I go back and I have to like fill in all these bullshit electives and like, I'm taking like family studies and I gotta write like an eight page paper and trying to get my mind after like just coming off a pro season and to like write about the importance of like adolescent development. I'm like, what am I doing here? So anyway, and then we had. And then we had, you know, a few runs there that like, it was either like, oh, okay, like play in the Stanley cup playoffs or sign up for a summer. Summer course. Obviously, like, I'm gonna go back to school. No, but. And so then, so then I ended up. It was like I realized that I. I had like misread my like, audit report or whatever. And I was closer than I thought. After just like slowly chipping away, I actually took beginners in advanced ice hockey.

[B]

No way.

[C]

And couple good credits, but I wasn't there. I basically just paid. And then they're like, like, they basically gave me like an independent study. Yeah. And I'm like, do you want me to like, take a test? And the guy's like, are you kidding me? You're playing in the NHL. Like, I think you're good. And so I was actually in that class with Riley Smith without ever. Yeah. Without ever being there. So funny. And he said like, they would say my name and roll call every once in a while and he'd just start dying.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, yeah. No, dog, that guy's. That guy's like.

[A]

But I also love how he had the same idea.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

He's like, I'll snatch it. Nice.

[C]

And study credit. Yeah. I took beginners and advanced ice skating too. Funny thing is I actually had to drop it when I was in school because I had a foot problem. Yeah.

[A]

I can't skate.

[C]

Yeah. I failed out of ice skating. No, I had to. I had to actually drop it. But. But yeah. So after like, I guess 13 years to the day, I walked in my freshman year. I ended up finishing and I had like my accounting degree. I had one last class. It was financial audit it. And I did like an independent study where I would talk to the professor and he wrote the book actually that they huge show is great. But he was great. Shout out Dr. Reffitt. He was great dude. Andrew Reffitt. And. And so I just talked and like, I don't know, I'd read like Two, three chapters. And then we'd chat for like an hour and a half. And then I had to take the exam. And I. Actually, it was like the last game before Christmas break and we flew up to San Jose and all the guys, like, knew that I was taking the test. But the thing was, they were like so strict about proctoring exams. Like, anyone walks in the shot, like, no cheat. I had to take my, my laptop and like, turn it around the whole. And like, look under my desk. So I didn't have like a cheat sheet.

[B]

Sure.

[C]

They took it really serious and the guys knew that. So I'm like, I know these guys are gonna try to like, get in my room and like sabotage me. So I get. Just get a goose egg.

[A]

They get in a window behind holding up all the answers. Yeah, exactly.

[C]

Yeah, exactly. And so, so I went up there. I must have checked that deadbolt like 10 times because I was like, I know the boys are gonna mess with me. And. Yeah. So I. We flew up there and before dinner, I signed in and I took the exam and shut the, the laptop and I'm like, all right, I'm done. And so I went down to the hotel lobby and ordered a steak and a glass of wine. And then the Dr. Refik called me. He's like, congrats, man.

[A]

That day.

[C]

You just got your degree. Yeah, dude, this.

[A]

Holy shit. That's amazing.

[C]

So, yeah, so I actually, I think I might have been like sitting at the bar with like, Ty because it was just an easy, like, go grab dinner quick. And. Yeah. And so then that was. That was it. And they wanted me to like, walk. Yeah, they walked up and I'm like, nah, I'm good. Like the guy that. The 30 year old that's like walking with all the 21 year olds. I'm like, yeah, Van Wilder is a great flick.

[B]

Got me.

[A]

Yeah. Also after almost a decade in the national, or more than a decade in the national too, you're like, sup? I'm gonna just grab my degree, get out of here.

[B]

No, I'm good. They sent it to you. You got it?

[C]

Oh, yeah, I got it. Like frame. I actually don't know where it is now. Might be at my in laws here. Like after getting traded and moving around, like some of that I just got. Awesome. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, you gotta send that to the parents. Promise fulfilled.

[C]

Yeah, it's actually true, dude. But that was the thing. Okay. So like, my parents, I was so fed.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I was so fed up with them asking me like, when are you getting your degree? And I just like, I think one time I just snapped on them and then they stopped asking me. So when I was doing this, I didn't tell them. And so then at Christmas, actually. Cause that was right before Christmas. I went on like Google Sheets or Google Docs and I made this like bullshit degree and put the cursive Miami University. And then I put it in a shoebox and I wrapped it for my parents. They were like crying, dude. They lost their mind. Yeah. So they were pretty fired up. But I was like, yeah, see, like, if you just leave me alone about it for once, like, I'll actually get it done.

[B]

That is awesome.

[A]

That is awesome. I'm also picturing Marty at his like cup party. His dad's drinking a beer out of the cup. He's like, when are you getting that degree?

[C]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[A]

I'm like, can you please join?

[C]

Come on, dude. But yeah, no, I was like, I'm glad I got it done right. And like now that I have kids, like, I can actually say that I did it and it sucked. But whatever. I made a promise I had to keep.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, it's great. Well, I mean, it sounds like you had a great time at Miami, Ohio. You had three awesome years. All first team. 0708 when you were there. Game winning goal against Michigan to snap a 20 game losing streak for Miami. Unbelievable. How did you land on Miami Ohio?

[C]

So I actually. Well, like, growing up in Michigan, like, I always watch like the GLI and. Yeah, yeah, Michigan, Michigan State, Tech, all that. And you're surrounded by college hockey. Oh my God. Seven.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Programs or something like Michigan. And I kind of always knew that that was what I wanted to do, like in terms of like junior or that psychology. Yeah. And. And then. And Miami was always like. We had a family friend who went there. Not for hockey or anything, but I was just aware of it. And then I got to know Jeff Blaschel at the time. Now he's like head coach in Chicago. And he's basically like, if I have three mentors throughout my. I'll call it like. Well, I guess throughout my career, he's. That were like a big reason of why I had the career that I had was he was one of them.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And so he's a Michigan guy. But I actually, I played like select festival with him. And that was back when they still did districts. And now it's just like a jumble. So we were on Team Michigan and we ended up winning the whole thing in St. Cloud, which was super fun and playing with A bunch of Michigan guys and your buddies. But our two coaches were Jeff Blaschel and John Cooper.

[B]

Oh, no.

[C]

Which is hilarious. So maybe that's why we weren't any good. We just had, like, like, sick coaches.

[A]

Great coaches.

[C]

And so I got to know Blash then. So I've known him since I was, like, 15 or 16. And then he was at Miami, and he recruited me there, and it was kind of just. It always felt like a good fit. And I actually, like, my dream school growing up was Michigan State had already. Like, now it's normal. But State at the time, had committed so many D men early.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

Like Brandon Gentile, Ryan Turk. Like. Like, names that no one listening or watching would ever remember way back then. But because they're just not old enough. I'm dating myself big time. But. And no. No disrespect to those two guys. Just, like, that was a long time ago. But. But, yeah. And I, like. And then Michigan started recruiting me, and then they just. They, like, ghosted me before. Ghosting was, like, a thing. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And so. And I even called them because they were, like, I don't know, reaching out to me a fair amount, and they wanted me to go on a visit, and I was just like, all right, well, I'm gonna make a decision soon. And, yeah, just Billy Powers just dusted me. And that's all right. I went to Miami and I kicked their ass anyway.

[B]

I was gonna say, shoved it up there.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So then we had some good battles with. With Michigan, but. But, yeah. And it just always seemed like the good fit. Like, I liked it. It was great. It was, like, close to home without being too close to home.

[B]

Yeah, I'd do that.

[C]

So four or five hours, which is

[A]

such a good factor.

[C]

Yeah. And then it was just like. It's one of those things where you just. You end up exactly where you're meant to be. And that was it. Like, Miami was awesome. My best friend, we had a huge class. I think we had, like, nine or 10 guys, maybe 11 guys, but there's some of my best friends still. And, like. Awesome. And we talk all the time. So. Yeah, it was. It was awesome.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

No, it's Miami's. Like, especially when we were good. Like, it was a sick place. Yeah. We were number one sport on campus, for sure. People camping out, like, on Monday for our series against Michigan, you know, obviously starting on Friday. Like, that's so.

[A]

That's sick.

[C]

It was. It was sick. Yeah. Yeah. Like, we would stop by. Like, I'd be Walking to practice or, like, going to class. And there's literally students camped out in tents, like, at. At Goggin, outside of Goggins.

[B]

And, like, are they saying what's up to you? Like, they see you and they're like, oh, yeah, yeah.

[C]

And we'd stop in and be like, yo, you guys need anything? Like, you want me to run to the dining hall?

[A]

Their tent?

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

You need some water?

[C]

Oh, you need a swipe? Like, swiping in the dining hall? Like, what do you need? You want a meal? Like, I can bring it out to you.

[A]

Do you guys have class?

[C]

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I'm like, who's. And they would always, like, rotate, you know, like, someone would come. You would have someone there.

[B]

You, like, lose your tent. If there's no one there, they do a check. You, like, lose your spot. It's crazy.

[A]

Well, dude, you, you know, talked about being a good team. You guys made the tournament every year. You were there, but you. You kind of had a BC problem.

[C]

Yeah, 100%.

[A]

I mean, those.

[C]

Those guys ended. Ended every year in my college.

[A]

Literally every year.

[C]

My college career. Yeah.

[A]

Lost first round year one. You beat. Unh. Year two, then lose round two.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You beat Air Force.

[C]

Thanks for the reminder.

[A]

Oh, yeah, we're going through it.

[C]

Let's go through it.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. Cool.

[A]

We talked about your kids in college being in their future. They're not going to bc.

[C]

No chance. No Eagles in this family.

[B]

What if they're like, we love Boston. It's such a beautiful city.

[C]

Tough break.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Don't give a shit. You better get a scholarship because I am.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Study up. You're going to Harvard.

[C]

Exactly. Going anywhere, there's a lot of pro. What is there? 60 something?

[A]

Yeah. We talk about a lot of colleges.

[C]

Boston's got plenty of them.

[A]

Your junior year, were you, like. Are you fucking kidding me? When you went up against.

[B]

Yeah. Did you want.

[C]

I wanted them, but it was like. And I guess it's like a hot topic right now with, like, the seeding and. Yeah, yeah. Where they should be and all. I'm not, like, super in tune with it, but I've seen a lot of, you know, kerfuffle about it, but it just sucked because it was like, we were the one seed. Like, we squeaked in my sophomore year, but. But, like, we were the one seed both my. My freshman and junior year. And it's like, we pull BC in the Boston air in, like, the New England bracket.

[B]

Like, Manchester.

[C]

We played them in. Yeah, well, we played them in Manchester the second time, but we pulled them in. Was it in Worcester the other two times? And I'm like, what? Like, yeah, come on. Like, so stupid. Yeah. And so at least. Because I think at that time there was one of the years there might have been a bracket in Dayton.

[B]

Oh, right.

[C]

Yeah. And not that we would have, like, yeah. Not that we would have pulled like a huge following, but it's like we meet Boston in Boston as a 1 seed. Like, come on now.

[B]

Those first two rounds should be home ice, the frozen floor.

[A]

Without question, you should have hosted those games. It is one of the biggest frustrations with Kalachaki. It's like all of these neutral cities are such a waste.

[B]

And they do it in basketball. I'm not saying it's.

[A]

But. No, but it's because the conversation is you want to grow Kalachaki.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You got to show it to people on TV with massive insane fandom at the games. Because it's like you have all these games at Yoast, for example, if you don't have Big Ten network, no one is seeing those crowds. So it's like you should be able to show that when it's finally on ESPN and when it's in. Where are they this year? Like Worcester again.

[C]

Who cares?

[A]

Who cares? It's true.

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

It's just random ass ranks.

[C]

Like Omaha.

[A]

No disrespect Omaha, but it's like it's always Omaha.

[C]

Oh, I love playing that. That rings awesome. Yeah, but I'm saying like, unless. Yeah, it's just when it's a game

[A]

of like Michigan vs Bentley, it doesn't need to be an Omaha, you know?

[C]

What are we doing?

[B]

Dude, that's insane. It's insane.

[A]

But yeah, you're not going to have the kids go to B.C.

[B]

anytime soon.

[C]

No, but I mean, hell, I don't care. If they want to then, so whatever. I'll just try to gently steer them elsewhere.

[A]

Yeah, correct.

[C]

But. And that's the thing. Like, I don't give a shit.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I have no ill will to B.C. like great games.

[A]

It's, it's.

[C]

It's part of the great cool logo, I guess. I don't know. Like cool jerseys. Good for you guys.

[A]

They're not in the tournament this year.

[B]

Were you. Yeah, right. Got em. Were you rattled when the boys went to the Natty the next year?

[C]

No, I was fired up for them. And like, it was weird cause I had just gotten hurt maybe like a game or two before that. And so I wasn't even playing that game. So I was like, not. It was the last game of the season in Manchester, and I wasn't. Like, I was watching the boys, right. Like, I was in the gym and the TV was on, and I'm like. I'm like, oh, my God, they're gonna, like, they're gonna do it. They're gonna do it. This is awesome. And. But, you know, it's like, always Jersey off your back night.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

And so I walked out, like, hobbled out in my knee brace and, like, did the jersey off my back thing. And it was like. Well, I guess there was, like, two minutes left and they were up, and I'm like, they just won the national championship. And then. And then I do the jersey off my back night, sign it, whatever. I come back in and I'm like, oh, my God, they're in ot. Like, what happened? Yeah, what two minutes did I miss? Yeah, and then. And then they lose, you know, and it's like. I don't know. Me and my. Like, Jeff Zakhoff, he's one of my.

[A]

Or.

[C]

He is my best buddy. I've grown up with him. I played with him at legit every level, which is pretty cool. That's awesome. Like, youth hockey. We played against each other in junior, but then we roomed together in college, played in the minors, played in the NHL together, and he left with me as well. Signed with la. He's actually, I think, the reason why I was drafted by la, because he was drafted the year before me, and I think they were just out there to scout him and watch and follow up on their prospect, and then they ended up seeing me. But, yeah, we left. We left Shout out Jeff Zakhoff. Yeah. My boy. But. But, yeah, it was. It was crazy that. That they lost. I feel bad. Like, fucking brutal and like. Yeah. And I just don't. I don't bring it up to the boys.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But I was. I'd like to think that, like, some of them, I've been able to return the favor, like, because that core group I've had out, like, I've had buddies at each time I won, so that's pretty cool.

[A]

So, like, that's so awesome.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Two, actually. Well, one of them has been to two.

[A]

Or.

[C]

Two of them have been to two. Yeah. I don't know. Breaks. But between the. Between the cup parties and. And stuff like that, I'd like to think that they.

[B]

Or even. Even.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

To be clear, if those B.C. losses had been national championships, I wouldn't have brought them. Oh, God, no.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no. Insane. Well, speaking of winning, let's get into some king stuff. That 2012 run, you guys come in as the eight seed.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And that first round, you get the wagon. Canucks, President's trophy team that year, and then you dummy them four, one up, three, nothing. Obviously, we see upsets in hockey more than some of these other sports, and you can beat anyone on a given night. But do you remember what the attitude was going into that series because they were so heavily favored? Were you guys just, like, nothing to lose, you know? Like, what was the vibe going into that series?

[C]

I don't know. We kind of, like, we hit lightning in a bottle. Like, quickie was insane. Like, it's one of the most unbelievable

[A]

runs of all time.

[C]

I've never seen, like, a display of goaltending like that ever in my life, even since. And, like, he was sick in 14, too. Like, or his entire life. Right? But, like, he was like, that run. He was making saves that, like, no human, like, not even a hockey player, but, like, no human had any business making. Right?

[A]

Correct.

[C]

And.

[B]

And, dude, that fires up the bench so much.

[C]

Oh, yeah. It's like, yeah, you. You feed off that. And everyone. Like, everyone wants to talk about, like, oh, do you change your game when you got this guy? And it's like, no, you don't change your game. But it does give you, like, this air of confidence where you're like, all right, you know, like, we know we're good back there. Like, we gotta take care of our shit up here. And so. But, yeah, it was like, you know, going into that, I also think I was like, us was I 20, 20, 23, 24. And I was, like, young and dumb. Like, I didn't know. Like, you're like, I'm not changing my game. Yeah. Yeah. Like, yeah, but, like, obviously, you know how good they are. But, yeah, and, you know, they lose in Game 7 the year prior, and it's like, they're the perennial powerhouse over those course of, you know, a couple years. But, yeah, I don't know. We just, like, it was weird. Like, we sprinted through that. That playoffs.

[A]

Like, dude, yeah, nuts.

[C]

The. The story. We went, what, 16 and 4, and we didn't lose a game on the road until the final. Correct. Yeah.

[B]

I think you went up 30 in every series.

[C]

In every series.

[A]

It was.

[C]

And so, like, I remember sitting there after we won, and I'm like, all right, I just want a Stanley Cup. This is incredible. But, like, did I really get the playoff experience? Because I was up every game three, nothing. And I'm like, man. And then, you know, 14 rolls around and it's pretty much the complete opposite of that. Yeah, but. But yeah, I don't. With. With Vancouver, it was just. I don't know, we. The other thing, too, it gets played up that we were the eighth seed a lot.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

But like, I think it was something. Don't quote me on this, but it's like if we would have won one of the last, like, two or three games of the year, we would have been in third. Correct. We'd facing Chicago the.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

When didn't Phoenix knock him off?

[A]

Yes. Because you played them in the conference final.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

That. It was a very tight group. Points wise, for sure. And you. Do you know what's funny? You're talking about Quickie's performance the year before that was Timmy in Boston. Yeah. And it was like we did it two years in a row where it was like, we have unconscious goaltending performances going on here. And it almost like that felt like the standard for a second. It was nuts. But, dude, you just mentioned it. Round two, you sweep the blues. Who are the two seed? Round three, play the three seed yots, gentlemen.

[B]

Sweep them.

[A]

And it's like at this point, this Quickie performance is going on. But you are no stranger to Quickie. After rooming with him in the Miners. Guys sleeping through his alarm every night.

[C]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You guys heard about that?

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

Literally pulling him out of bed.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

If he ever gets, like, labrum repair surgery or something, it's probably me yanking him so hard. Yeah. So it was. It was funny. This was. We were up in. We flew up to Winnipeg and this was before the jets had come back.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And we were playing the Moose. And I'm dating myself here, but we pull in. It's also. Well, I won't say that, but. Well, just to be clear, you're in Canada.

[A]

We're all the same age, so you're in good company.

[C]

No, I know, but I was going to kind of bag on Canada for saying that they were still, you know, doing the. The wall phone.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And like the. But it's winning. It's fine. But no. So we get up there and someone calls the room, and it's just like, you see that phone call in between the bed?

[B]

I'm like, pay me to answer that phone.

[C]

Yeah. And I'm like. So I answer. I'm like, hello? And he's like, this is Ron Hextall. And I'm thinking, like, am I getting Called up. He's like, is Quickie there? And I'm like, damn, fuck. Yeah, but obviously half. You're like, no, yeah, yeah, no, he's not. But you needed a fake fenceman, you know, like need a D man right now. And no. And so anyways, we had just gotten into the hotel and. And so he was getting called up the following morning. And so we were like, you are not. Because you guys know Quickie's history and all that. Yeah. And we were like, you are not sleeping through this alarm. So we must have like, when I say I'm dating myself, like, we set probably like three wake up calls with the hotel. They were probably like, what's the deal here? You know? And then set every alarm on our phone and all that. And he had like, I think he had to get up at like 5 or 6am to make like a 7, 8 o' clock flight back to LA. And then he never came back.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

And that was it. And. But yeah, I always, I always laugh about that because. And we. We have a good laugh about it when we. We catch up. But. But yeah, so it was. Yeah, I guess I'm basically responsible for.

[A]

You did this 00 cups for the Kings without Marty.

[B]

Is he snoozing and then just like. Not like what?

[C]

He just, he's just a heavy sleeper.

[B]

Yeah. So he doesn't wake up to the first one.

[C]

Yeah, he just doesn't. Yeah.

[A]

So it's. You wake up and then you have to get up and be like, wake up.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, pretty much. But. But no, he's. He's such an awesome dude and.

[A]

Oh, the best.

[C]

I mean, speaking of like, like hockey being poetic, like coming back around and then we'll get to that later. But yeah, I. I can't even talk about it sometimes. It's unbelievable. But yeah, but he was. I mean, he was lights up. I mean, the reason why he won the con. Smite. Yeah. Nasty.

[A]

So heading into that cup and Chris, you know, you can jump into the cup itself, but like, I know you were young in this first one, but this was not unfamiliar to you, seeing him play like this, right? Like, were you kind of like this guy? I mean, obviously it was a nuclear performance, but you must have kind of known like that he has this in him.

[B]

And, and were the boys like, you know, when a picture's throwing no hitter,

[C]

everyone's just like, don't speak.

[B]

Were the boys being like, yo, Quickie, you're fucking out of your mind or what?

[C]

I mean, it's Kind of like, yeah, you just. You're just going about your business. Yeah. Like, I know it sounds like, so cliche, but like, really in that, like, there's so many momentum swings throughout like a series or even just a game or, you know, and it's like I always like. And like playoffs are like such this like, emotionally revved up environment, but you don't really realize it until you come down from it, you know, and you're like, holy shit. Like, whoa. You know, like, and it's, you know, I've been lucky to. It's over beers after winning, which would be. Is a lot easier to, you know, come down from than. Than being on the. The wrong side of it.

[A]

But.

[C]

But yeah, it's just, I. I guess like, I mean, we were all aware of his performance, but it was kind of like, well, we're all trying to do our job. And like, yeah, he's nasty, but everyone just keeps. It's just like, yeah, don't. Don't like change anything.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

Don't mess around with the ball.

[C]

Yeah, don't mess with it. And so. But yeah, I mean, it was also like a long time ago. So I'm sitting here like, trying to rack my brain. I'm like, oh, man. But that was like 14 years ago. Crazy.

[B]

Okay, well, when you get to that cup, I kind of have two questions. One, when you go up 30 again, was it nearly impossible to not be like, we've won, like, we are dominating, and then the follow up is when they win. Two, are you like, oh, fuck, all of a sudden?

[C]

Yeah, well, it's like everyone. You always hear like, the canned answer, like, you just gotta focus on the next night. But it's like we're all human beings. Like, it's human nature to think like, oh, do we have this thing? Like, are we. And I remember, like, thinking like, wow, this is a real possibility. But you're fighting that the entire time, right? Like, mentally and by no means. I mean, Jersey was like, even though we met, and no disrespect to Van, but like, they obviously were the President's Trophy. But like, we all said that we thought Jersey was like the best team that we faced. And I mean, they were really good. I mean, especially like you look at that game one, like, it could have gone twice, right? First two games, Kopi scores, and it could have gone either way. But. But yeah. So, like, I lost my train of thought here.

[B]

You guys thought Jersey was the best team. You.

[C]

Oh, yeah. And so I really, really did not. What were Your questions.

[B]

I was saying, did you feel like you won? You said you were fighting it, and then you were like, we thought they were the best team. And you look at that roster.

[C]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. And so, like, you. You really are, like, thinking about that, but you're. You're trying to fight it at the same time. Like, we. We always. So, like, going forward to game five, when we end up. Or six, when we ended up winning, it's like we're up five to one. Was it five to one or five to two or something? Yeah. And I remember Matt Green scored, like, this knuckler from the point, and it was like the game was already done. But, like, this whole time, like, well, I guess Scuderi gets hit, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And then, like, we go up on the pot, we score, too. And, like, we're up. But you're fighting that the entire time, like, in game, because you're like, all right. And. And Quickie has talked about this, where he's, like, sitting in net and he's like, all right, we're up by three. But, like, if they get a quick one.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

And then they get a quick one after that, like, this is a different game, you know, and you're trying to press that hard to do that. And so then. So then I ended up Greener scores that goal, and I, like, sprinted over him and, like, jumped into him to celebrate. And it was like, after the fact, I felt like such a dickhead because it was, like, in front of their bench. That was the sixth goal. But it gives, like, an idea of where my head was at, because the whole time you're thinking, like, all right, we're up. But this is, like, a 00 game. 00 game. And you're trying to fight that the whole time. Time. So kind of the same way, like, with the series, you're trying to fight the human element of it. And it's like, for sure, I can't let my mind.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Get any further than I'm like, am right now.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's also, if there's ever a time to celebrate a sixth goal, it's the Stanley Cup Final.

[B]

Like.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, you can't be like, oh, no, we're fine. It's like you're playing, presumably, the other best team in the league. You got to keep it ripping. But they were.

[C]

I mean, they were really, really good. I mean, some of the names on that other. Other side, like Kovalchuk and. Was Sakura on that team? Eliash was on that team for sure. Dana Zubris, like Marty Broder, like, and Colin Frazier breaking. Breaking open the series and scoring a five hole goal on Broder and. But yeah, it was just. It was wild.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Thinking back at it.

[B]

God, so young.

[C]

Yeah. Just young and dumb, dude.

[B]

You know, like, was that day with a cup unreal?

[C]

Yeah, it was awesome. I mean, my. My three were all awesome in their own way.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, different. Like, my cup days were different. Like, I was a single guy the first time, so it was just the boys. And then did you go back home? Yeah, I had the second one. I had a girlfriend at the time, and some of my buddies had gotten married, so it was like. Like the girls were invited that time. And then nine years after that, like, it was kids and like family. So it was like, equally as cool. Yeah. The chapters of my life. Yeah. Yeah. So hopefully I win another one and I'll be in a walker and that's. It's actually like a walker's like, what, a month away.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

A couple more surgeries.

[A]

Dude, Jesus Christ.

[B]

That's so good.

[C]

But, yeah, no, it was. It was a wild run. Especially like 16 and 4. Like, it's crazy.

[B]

It's insane.

[A]

So crazy.

[B]

It's a great comment that you said earlier where it's like, did I even get this playoff experience? Because you did it in a way, you know?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And I'm like, saying it's fantasy land.

[C]

I didn't. I didn't. I'm like, I didn't play game seven. I didn't, you know, do all that stuff. And. Yeah, I don't know. I was. Well, in 14.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Here. Here comes.

[A]

Yeah, well, in 14, just a couple of years later, beginning is as opposite as it gets. Going up against the sharks, you go down.03. I need to know, having been so recently from the last cup run when you were down 03 against this great team with you want to talk about rosters? Jesus Christ. That Sharks group having just done it and just been an eight seed and just outperforming, winning so many games in a row. Did that bleed into the conversations in the locker room in this year and in this particular matchup, or was it totally new year, totally new day, and you were like, doesn't matter. Let's just go play game four and see what happens?

[C]

Yeah, that's a good question. I mean, I think it's one of those things where, like, you can't live in the past, but you have to be able to ride on your experience,

[A]

you know, like, well said.

[C]

We had gone through that before or not. We'd gone through the run before. Like, we knew, like, that core group. We knew what it took, and we had a few different pieces. Right, sure. Because you have to. But shout out that 70s line. Yeah, I know. Ty's been on here a few times, but. And Pierce. But. But, yeah, it's like. It's this weird balance where, like. Yeah, you just. You can't live in the past. But then you also have to be able to, like, hey, we know what we need to do. And obviously, starting out down three is not the way to start a playoffs, especially in San Jose. I mean, they were. They were nasty. And that, like, that building was something else. Like, Shark Tank was rocking the low ceiling.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[C]

And it was a. It was a fun environment to play in, but, yeah, like, crazy, that. And we just. I remember, I. You guys are familiar. Like, Manhattan Beach. It was. We. We came back down 03, and we had, like, the day off, and my family was in town, so we went in between games, and we went to Uncle Bill's. Pancake.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Dude.

[C]

And I. Great spot, by the way. Great spot, man.

[B]

I have an epic story about that place. I gotta tell you. Okay.

[C]

All right. I can't wait. Do you know Uncle Bill?

[B]

No. I wish. He's our uncle.

[C]

No, but I see Brownie there because he's there with his family, too. And we just kind of look at each other, and we're like, let's really try to win this one, you know, like, we got it. And it was obviously saying it in Jess, but. Yeah, and it's just like, we were like, hey, we just got to get one, you know, and then just chip away at it. So, like, I don't know. I. I don't know how we did it, but, like, insane. I'm just happy we did. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Well, I mean, it's just like hockey. It is. Stories like that are so incredible. You first round, you go down.03, you're dead to rights by all accounts, you then win the cup that year. Unbelievable. Yeah, but it's like, I understand, statistically, it's every time someone goes down03, it's so unlikely that you win that series, let alone to go on and win. But it's like, we all know you could win any night with so many of these teams. And it's like, I always look at it as. Well, that team just won three in a row. Why can't we?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's like, here you go. It happens. It's like, look at the cup two years ago.

[B]

I know.

[C]

Fl up 3.

[A]

0, and next thing you know, we're in a game seven. So it's like, jesus, yes. This is crazy.

[C]

And.

[B]

Yeah, go ahead.

[C]

It's weird. Like, I mean, momentum, like, all it takes, like, it's. Momentum's such a funny thing in hockey. And, like, it takes one little play.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

To just flip an entire series.

[A]

100.

[C]

And I don't know if there was really, like, one play in. In that San Jose series, but, like, it's just a funny, funny thing. Especially when you get into a seven

[B]

game series, you know, like, belief and confidence.

[C]

Yeah. Belief and confidence. And then just casting a little bit of doubt in their mind because it's like, I've been on the other side of that and you're just like, yeah.

[A]

Oh, for sure.

[C]

Yeah. Like, all right, they're coming. Well, we were talking. You asked me, I guess I didn't answer, but, like, when we lost the two against Jersey.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And it's like we're flying across, going back and forth, and we just. Like. It sits in the back of your mind, like, we better get this done.

[A]

Yeah, definitely.

[C]

The pressure mounts and it's a real thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Do not want to. And then after you beat the Sharks.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I was thinking, oh, maybe they're just gonna start rolling now, but it's like, wrong. Absolute slug fast. Hold on.

[A]

I do quickly need to know. Listen, it's been a while, so we're not insulting anyone. When you win that Game seven, were you guys like, holy fucking shit.

[C]

Yeah. That had to have been a pretty. I know.

[A]

It's round one. That had to have been a pretty awesome party.

[C]

I mean. Yeah. But it's like, you can enjoy it. Like, this is the cliche thing to say, but it's actually true. It's like, all right, enjoy it tonight.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That's the thing about Game 7. It's like, there's no time.

[A]

No. You're playing in, like, a day.

[C]

You have, like, maybe a travel day, maybe two, you know, in between. But, yeah, I just. I remember thinking like, oh, man, I would really hate to be in San Jose's exit, you know? Like, that's where it's like the human side of it. You're like, oh, sorry. Yeah. You don't feel bad, but like, you put yourself in those shoes. And I'm like, e. Yeah.

[A]

You do think about it and you're like, damn, that is tough.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. So anyway, slugfest against the Ducks, which is like an insane back and forth. Then you get The Hawks, you guys go up three one. I'm pretty sure they win, like, the double OT Game five, win game six, then you go to game seven. So here you are again, and in that game, you guys go down two, nothing. Three. Two and four. Three.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Battle back, force ot, and then you fire a rister from the point, go ballistic.

[C]

What.

[B]

What did that feel like in that moment?

[C]

Well, it was wild. Like, I mean, same thing like you're talking about. We were up 3:1 on Chicago and not to bypass the Anaheim series.

[B]

Yeah. Which was.

[C]

That was a slugfest. Yeah. But, like, going into Chicago, it's. It was like, all right, well, we had a chance to finish this off, but also, like, we just played two of these game sevens on the road. Like, here we go again. You know, but that was the thing. It's like, we had this, like, confidence, even though we were down. Like, all right, we're good, we're good. And I don't know. And we just. What was it? Gabby. Gabby scored that. That goal to tie it in the third. Yeah. And I remember, yeah, we went down two. Nothing early. And the first and in that building, too. Like, and it's just like, oof. You know, And. And we. And you think about that, like, we had just lost in that building the year prior in 13, and lost two

[B]

in a row to them in the series.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. And so, yeah, it's just. I don't know, it's like. And also at that time, like, you don't have time to think about that.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Stuff. So you're just like, all right, I'm just in the moment, you know, Like, I'm just worrying about my next shift again. Such a turd answer. Like, cliche. But it's, like, really the only way to handle it, or else it'll get the best of you, right?

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[C]

Yep. Yeah. And so then, yeah, with that goal, it was.

[B]

Did you see it going? Because it was kind. You know, it's kind of like, through screen.

[C]

I could kind of. I started. I think I saw Stoli start jumping, but the. The story behind that was Ben Smith forward. He must have blocked, like, three or four of my shots that game. And I was just like. I was getting so rattled, and probably Daryl was just giving for not getting him through. And so I thought, like, if I ever get a chance against him again, I'm just gonna stop and try to go the other way, because I'm like, I'm not getting him through on this guy. So then obviously, I do the stop, and I come back and I just throw it. And I mean, I got. Got super lucky, like off Nick Letty or whatever, but it was just. It was a good play by Justin Williams. Like, just weird, right? Game seven. That guy does.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Shocker.

[C]

Yeah, shocker.

[A]

What a stunning event.

[C]

Yeah. And. Yeah, and it's just. Yeah, I just got. Got lucky and threw it at. Threw it at the net. And I actually just told this story the other day, but I. I told or I called my old man after the game, like after the. The. All the hoopla and all that stuff was done, and I. I remember I was sitting on the bus at United center waiting to, like, pull out, and I called my dad. I was like, can you believe what just happened? Like, I'm like, dad, I hope you know, like, this is it. Like, this is the pinnacle. It's all downhill from here. Like. Like, I'm never going to do anything like that ever again. And then little did I know that we were going to end up doing it again ten days later. But like, what a world. But yeah. So it was just like kind of a cool moment with my dad. I was like, but. But yeah, I remember it was like me, Ty, and maybe it was Daryl in the. In the press conference, but yeah. Wild, insane.

[B]

And were you like. Because that is such a. Like you said it was with the pinnacle in that moment. Does it hit you right away or did you like. Did I feel like I would have woken up in the morning and been like, holy fuck.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. It's like, again, you're still like. You're like, all right, on to the next.

[A]

Job's not done yet.

[C]

Job's not done. And it's like, that's. I mean, I. I'll be honest. Like, other than settings like this, I don't think about it.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Really ever. Like, I believe it. I just. I don't know. People bring it up to me, but I don't. It sounds so cliche and I feel like a turd saying this, but, like, I genuinely don't care that it was me, right? Like, I. I just want. I just wanted to win, you know, 100, man. And I mean, let's call spade a spade. I got pretty lucky. Like, I just threw it out at. At the net and just, you know. But got it through, though.

[B]

Got it through, right?

[C]

Hey, well, I almost got it through. I got it at least down there.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Got mixer.

[C]

But yeah. So. But yeah.

[A]

Crazy in that final, which is possibly the craziest five game series of all time. I think it was like, game one's OT, game two's double OT. You're up, 2o win. Game three, game four, they win. You're coming back. How much of you is like, holy shit, we've already had two OT or more games in this series. We're up, sure. But say what you will, MSG is a crazy barn to play in. You come back to la, how much in your head were you, like, fucking end it now. Like, don't. Do not go back to New York. Let's take care of this honestly.

[C]

Like, all of us were just like, we don't want another cross country flight.

[B]

So tired.

[C]

Dude, it's real. And it's like two years ago, same thing. We're going. It was the same airport we were flying in out of Newark. We're like, oh, deja vu all over again. I'm like, man, I just don't want to get on that bird again. And I remember, like, back to that original series. Like, we guys are so dehydrated and, like, up and stuff. And like, those cross country flights, like, I mean, they're a grind. Oh, definitely in the. And. And then in 23 with Vegas, it's like we're doing the same thing. Vegas to Florida. I'm like, my goodness. You know, and so that was like,

[A]

buddy, we were doing it commercial.

[C]

I get it. And it's like, I. I. Like, we wanted to win, but we more so just didn't want to hop on a bird again after that flight. So. But yeah, it's. I mean, it was. I mean, it would have been obviously cool to win it, but I'm. I'm actually very fortunate to have won the three times at home because it's just. It's special. It's awesome.

[A]

Yes. So, so awesome.

[C]

But. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[A]

But you're in double OT in game five, obviously, Toph comes in, low shot squirts out to you. First of all, you're talking about being dehydrated. It's the end of the season, all the travel. You're in double overtime for the second time in the fucking series.

[C]

Do you.

[A]

Did you blackout during that, or do you remember that play vividly?

[C]

I.

[A]

Cause that puck hits your stick, and you must have been like, oh, my God.

[C]

Yeah, it's like, it happens so quick, you don't know. And. And I almost blacked out afterward. Like, I don't. But. But yeah, it's. I don't know. Like, I just. I feel weird talking about it. Like. But it's just. It's like, again, I don't care that it was me. I know it sounds corny, but. But I genuinely, like, don't think about it. Like, I'm reminded once a year when people tweet at me on June 13th.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And then you hear the Doc Emmerich call. Yeah, yeah. And I don't know, but I, I just, like, I. I just feel very fortunate to like, I mean, we've all scored that goal in our driveway as a kid, you know, or mini sticks in the basement or something. And to be able to do it in real life is pretty special. But, like, I don't. There's other things in my career that I'm more proud of.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, I heard you say, absolutely,

[B]

back to the game.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. And we can get into that. Yeah, we can get into that afterward. But it's like, I don't know. I, I'm grateful for it and I know how fortunate I am, but I just, like, I genuinely, like, don't talk about it that much. And you can probably tell that I, like, I, I'm like folding up into my shell. It's like, hey, can you come?

[A]

I know you mean. But I, I think it's so awesome because you having done that, like we said, the, the imaginary dream you do as a kid, it is so clear that after the grind and the journey, it is so much about just doing it with your team.

[C]

Team.

[B]

Who gives a.

[A]

Who scores.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Getting the win is the best. And it's like you are the living embodiment of that being a real feeling that it's like, cool, yeah, I scored. I'm grateful for it, but I'm more grateful that I got to win with this group of guys. That is so awesome.

[C]

Right. And it's back to your point about, like being the end of the year. I think, like, if you added up with all the extra overtimes and periods we played, we played almost like 30 games.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

And we went to game seven of the first three suit. But. But yeah, like, it's. It's a cool feeling to have scored, but like a better feeling is seeing Marion Gabric lift the cup for the first time, seeing Robin Regiere lift it up for the first time. And like seeing a guy or guys like that that have been around for so long and, and were never, you know, able to do it. And then all of a sudden they, they can. Like, and not that I was like some all knowing kid. I was 26, like. And I. But I had just, just, you know, we had won a couple years Before. So, like, that feeling and sharing it with people that you care about is far better than any goal that you could ever score.

[A]

Yeah, so true. You know what's really awesome about your three Cups as well? It is. I mean, like, I'm not talking about beating people, but beating Brodeur, Hank and Bob, like. Yeah, true hall of fame, all time goaltenders is kind of a sick.

[B]

Good resume.

[A]

Yeah, it's a good resume.

[C]

It wasn't me.

[A]

Yeah, but you know, like, those are. It's pretty cool. Those are battles. Like, you had your three cups. You went up against some of the best of all time. That's wild.

[C]

Yeah, but we also had Quickie, too.

[B]

Yeah, right.

[C]

And Hillsey was. Well, that was the cool thing about 23. Is that, like, crazy? Brisois and Hill, I mean, they were. They were dynamite.

[A]

Yep, dynamite. Holy hell.

[C]

And Quickie was on that team.

[B]

Yeah. Which is sick. Okay, well, so Vegas, I. I heard Kessel was also being like, like, don't make me fly back to Florida. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

That's actually a true story. Yeah. He's sitting in a stall, like, talking like this. Come on, boy. You know, get it done here, dude. Yeah, he was. He. He's an awesome dude, that guy. Like, he's one of my favorites.

[A]

Yeah, he's all time.

[B]

Do you remember anything from that year with him? Just.

[C]

Oh, just like. I mean, he's just like the butt of so many jokes.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

But it's all like, you know, like, we love him, you know, but he's just like such a. Like in a locker room. Like, he's so, like, he gives it back to guys, but like, it's always just, you know, like ripping on Phil and then he's just like, ah, yeah, rip on me. You know, like all. And it's just like his demeanor. But yeah, he's. He's such a good dude and.

[A]

Well, it's like Ikes came on the show and told us the Marshy headbutt story.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

That shit's just always happening to him. It feels okay.

[C]

So. So I was the. It was me. Who else was it? There were only two other people in the room in Ottawa, and I was right there. I saw the whole thing.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Oh, my God.

[C]

But with like the Harry Potter scar and all that and like the stumble back and like the big old goose egg that they had. I don't even think Phil even like took a shot in warmups. He just skated around with his bucket, like, angled way up and just didn't do anything. But that was incredible. An incredible moment. But the funny part is that was it Phil. So it was in the locker room, but someone had, like. Oh, it was actually me because I would always shower after. So I tracked in a little bit of water. So, like, one of the two. I can't remember if it was Marchie or. I think it was.

[A]

Hold on.

[C]

But he slipped on the water and almost, like, blew his groin after. He's got the goose egg. Did Jack tell that part?

[B]

No, he didn't tell.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So, like, so we were just like. We almost lost two of our top players in some stupid thing that they're, like, messing around before the game. I remember, like, I think they came in and they went in and told the coaching staff, and, like, they didn't even know what to say. They couldn't even be mad. Yeah.

[B]

Like, dude, you did what?

[C]

Yeah, but then Marchie missed, like, most of warmups because he was getting zips.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. Dude, that's so good.

[A]

Marshy's got zips. Phil's almost blowing his groin.

[C]

Yeah. Big old, like, goose egg. Right. Right where his helmet sits.

[A]

You're a post warmy shower guy.

[C]

No, sorry. That was like, post meeting. I would shower before I warmed up. Okay. Okay. I was like, I would, like, go in the. In the hot tub or, you know, something like that. But yeah, not. Those guys are psychos. And I know a couple.

[A]

We all know a few of them. And I was about to say, once

[C]

my gear is put on, like, I'm not taking it. Like, I'll take my upper stuff off in between periods, but, like, low. Unless I have to. It's completely with you.

[A]

I think it's.

[C]

Unless you got to take a dump or something. My skates and all that are not coming off.

[A]

I was ready.

[C]

I wore a girdle too, so I never. Even if I had to do that, like, yeah, I could just.

[A]

Guys take their skates off. Like, I understand. On loosening them a bit, but guys take their boots off. I'm like, what are you doing? Yeah. It's crazy.

[C]

Well, because anyone that's played knows that, like, you. You re tie them and they don't feel the same. No, they're like broken in and they're so tight, and it's just like, once they. I time, like, I don't want to touch it.

[B]

Yep. But you talked about that feeling of, like, fighting the. Like, we're winning, but, you know, it's not over yet.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Did you let it take you when it was 9:1?

[C]

Yeah, I. Well, I don't know it. You're still trying to fight that. Like maybe once it was nine.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, and there was. When was it nine?

[B]

Dude?

[C]

Was it, was, was it for a while?

[B]

Yeah. Because they got too late. Yeah, maybe, maybe it was like, maybe it was like eight. One. And then they scored two.

[C]

Yeah. And then like one went off Petro's foot. Yeah, yeah, like one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, funny story about that is that I had four of my college buddies out and then my whole family and all that stuff. And normally when I would go to the rink, you know, it's like when I get there, my phone's in my stall and I don't check it. Yeah, well, obviously with the buildup of everything going on, it's Vegas. You guys know that plaza there? It's like it's slammed, right? And so for whatever reason, like after, like before I like I would warm up. Like my off ice warm up. Then I'd go get all my gitch on and all that. And for some reason I was just like, I'll check my phone. And my wife texted me and it was like a selfie of her. And like all my buddies, my family, they're taking like shots down an ice luge. And I'm just thinking, I'm like, oh well, at least they're having fun, you know, Like, I'm ready. I'm like grinding, trying to get like, I gotta work here, you know. And then I remember just feeling this like, like feeling. I'm like, well, we better get it done because they're partying already. Like we have, you know, so. But yeah, it was, Yeah, I mean, I guess there's a, there's actually a funny story where our assistant coach, Johnny Stevens, I, I, I love this guy. I might go through a brick wall for him, but I had him in my LA days of, of my 17 year pro career. I think I was with Johnny for like 12 of them or something.

[B]

Yeah, that's awesome.

[C]

And, and, and it was like, I don't know, two minutes left and we were at that point, it was 9 to 3. And at, at that point I'm like, all right, like we're going to celebrate.

[A]

We don't need to celebrate.

[C]

The, you start getting a little giddy on the bench, you know, and then Johnny is just, if you know him, he's an intense coach and, but awesome guy. And he's like, like, I can't remember you saying something about telling us Demon to have like tighter gaps or something like that. And then finally like, I just turned around. And it's like, I. I've had. I've known Johnny since I was 20.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And I'm like, johnny, like, would you relax, man? Like, we just won the Stanley Cup. And he just, like, looks at me and then, like, just cracks his smile and, like, hits me with his little, like, game sheet.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

And it was just. It was like. But that's like. Yeah, that's like, a good example. I say that and Jess. But that's like, a good example of the, like, you're trying not to. You're trying to fight that.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

He's doing it, too, and he knows that he's got to do it, and he feels that pressure as a coach because he's like, I can't let the boys, like, get. See me celebrate or, like, I can't let this, you know, let them let it slip away or something, even though it's. Yeah. But. Yeah, so that was. That was pretty good.

[A]

That's great.

[C]

That's incredible. And he just kind of cracks a smile. Like, all the D men were, like, looking at each other. We're looking back and like, daddy, we saw that, Jon. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And then you mentioned this earlier, but how special was it to be able to hand the cup to Quickie? Like, what a moment for you, too. Holy shit.

[C]

It was honestly, like, I mean, I was fortunate to have some pretty cool moments in my career, and that was one of the best. It has to be, like, the fact that especially with the way everything ended up going down for him and everyone being shocked that it's like, Jonathan Quick, they just traded him to, like, Columbus. And then Columbus.

[A]

Blue Jacket's legend.

[C]

Yeah, legend. Which, by the way, that, like, it

[A]

was the funniest thing of all time,

[C]

was the fun, like, it was awesome. Yeah. Like, they. They couldn't have handled that anymore.

[B]

Oh, no. Truly.

[C]

And the fact that, like, it got Quickie to crack that smile with that scrape rim, him sitting on the bench, you know, like, that.

[A]

So fun.

[C]

It was so, so good. But, yeah, and it was just cool because it's like, we talked about it earlier, like, Quickie and I go back to playing in the minors and rooming on the road, and then all of a sudden, like, what, 15, 16 years later, I'm handing him the cup after all that in, like, who would ever thought that Quickie was, like, a golden knight, Right. Of all people to send to the rival. I mean, not that they did. Yeah, right. But ended up going that. But, yeah, it was poetic. But speaking of him, too, it's like, he and his wife Jackie are the best.

[A]

Dude, Jackie is a legend, a hall

[C]

of fame human being, and I would not want to be on the wrong side of Jackie, but, no, they are just the best. And it was so cool to see him come to Vegas, too, because he won a few games for us, too, right?

[B]

Oh, my God.

[C]

Such a good. He was such a good presence in that room. He bought in, like, whatever I can do. But then he taught so much to everyone off the ice. He and Jack, you guys know, are some of the most generous people I have ever. And they want to be the host of the party, and they're. They. And they bring anyone who wants to come. Like, they're all inviting, like. And that was, like, such a cool thing that a lot of people learn from them and just, like, how to handle that and how to, like, bring a group together and, like, make the families love each other and all that. And they were just like. It was. It was really cool. For such a short time he was in Vegas. Like, he. He and Jackie left such a big impact, and. And, like, that organization loves him. Yeah.

[A]

I mean, dude, they're just grade A people.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

It's unbelievable.

[C]

And that was cool. And then it's like, have you ever been on a. On a Jackie and Jonathan quick party bus? Well, then.

[A]

Oh, dude.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

That's on bucket list for me. Dude. That's bucket list for me.

[C]

Like, yeah, the night's going one way and one way only, and you're having a great time. And I don't mean anything bad, but just, like, they're just.

[A]

They're.

[C]

They're the life of the party. Super fun, and they just want everyone to have a good, good time.

[A]

Yeah. That's awesome. It's amazing.

[C]

The best.

[A]

Well, here you are sitting on this show after you hung them up. No TV was like, rule number one. It felt like.

[C]

Yeah, well, no, it was rule number two. No coaching. Okay, okay, Fair one. Fair. And then two.

[A]

And then you were like, no, tv.

[C]

Won't do it.

[A]

Won't do it. And now here we are, and you're buzzing.

[B]

You're TV superstar.

[A]

You're doing tv, you're doing podcast. Oh, I'm. I'm. I'm here to tell you it suits you well.

[B]

And now finding out Danny's been doing it it through writhing in pain, the whole.

[A]

I do. Seriously, this guy.

[C]

Some things never change.

[A]

This guy's about to lose a leg. It's unbelievable. No, but you're doing a lot of it.

[B]

You're.

[A]

I'll Tell you right now, I'm having a great time. Yeah, you're good at it. Are you having fun?

[C]

Thanks. I need to come on this show. You live down the road.

[A]

There's a seat right there for you. I've been trying to get you to sit in it.

[C]

Well, that's the thing that I was saying. I'm like, man, I've been trying to come on and I like feel. Felt bad, but I just like every time that you guys have asked me, I've been out in Vegas doing. Or Chicago, but it's.

[A]

We've been ships faster than the night. Like we've been gone, you've been gone.

[C]

And hell, I only live 15 miles, which might as well be a different plan in la. But. No, Yeah, I just. Yeah, I always said like I. And I can still say I'm not. I'm never gonna coach.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But I always said I wouldn't be on tv. And then it just kind of like organically happened that. So when I was out with. When I got sliced in the face, which is a whole nother podcast.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, we say we're saving that for sure.

[C]

I actually, Darren Millard, the host in Vegas, and he's been with sportsnet. Like, this guy's the best, awesome, awesome dude. And I spent a lot of time with him that year because I was skating a lot by myself, trying to figure out my own problems. And he would always come out with guys to have a goalie to shoot on. So I got to know him and we kind of developed a friendship. And then my last year in Vegas, you know, he's like, well, if this, this is in fact the. Your last year, you know, I think that you'd be good at this. And you know, and I was like, yeah, I pushed back on it a little bit. I'm like, eh, maybe. And. And part of that was just like, I don't think I'm ready to wrap my head around like, what I'm gonna do when I'm done because I'm still like, like a player in my mindset.

[B]

Totally.

[C]

And. And then I also. I'm like tv. Like, nah, I don't. I don't want to be like one of those guys in the media scrum, like asking questions because I like quite frank. Well, I liked a lot of them, but some of them I didn't, you know, And I'll just leave it at that. But sure. And I'm like, I don't want to be that guy. And. But then like, he kind of convinced me. And then I was like, yeah. You know, and in my retirement, I just, I'm like, I'm going to take, take the first couple years. I want to be a dad and I want to get my health back and, and things are going.

[A]

Give them a second.

[C]

The dad part's going great. The health part is a work in progress. Yeah. Yeah, that's still in the queue, but

[A]

I've got to go into the night a few more times.

[C]

Check in with me like in five years from now, see if I got it. But, but yeah, so I'm like, I just want to try stuff. And so I'm trying to, not to say no to anything within reason. Like I'm not gonna, not gonna head down to Spearmint Rhino or become a Chippendale, but like, but like I.

[A]

That have been an awkward run in for us.

[C]

Yeah. That way. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, fancy seeing you here. Yeah.

[A]

Marty.

[C]

Weird.

[A]

Weird. I'm just picking up. They have great wings here.

[C]

Yeah, it's great wings. Yeah, the T bone steak. Yeah. 9.99. No, but. And so like it was easy because I already had like a friendship with Darren and so he's like, yeah, I think you'd be good at this. And so were we were chatting in the summer and then I did a few games with them and then Chicago called and asked and I don't know, it's a lot of fun, like for me, like if I would have like quit hockey cold turkey, and I think we talked about this at, when we played in the charity game together. Like if I would have quit a cold turkey, like that would have been pretty tough to just all of a sudden give up, like the biggest thing in my life, my entire life, you know? Yes.

[A]

I was.

[C]

Yeah. 2. And so this is like gets me out of the house for a few days. I get to see my buddies because I'm buddies with the guys on Chicago, of course. Yeah. In Vegas. And so I'll see him like for dinner or something on an off day. My sister and brother in law, my new nephew live there. So I get to see them.

[B]

Oh.

[C]

In Vegas and, and then I get to talk hockey and, and get paid a little money and I get out of the house for three or four days. So my wife doesn't want to kill me, you know, more so than she does.

[A]

Pretty good deal. Yeah.

[C]

Great gig, you know, and so like. And, and they've been like really appreciative of both organizations allowing me. But like when I initially talked to Vegas, I was like, hey, like I just want to always Reserve the right to say no, like, because I want to be a dad, and I want to get my health back. Like, those are my big. And they're like, yeah, no problem, you know? And so they've been really good to me. And then I've actually done. I've ended up doing more than what we had originally planned. And I like it. Like, it keeps me. It keeps me somewhat involved. Like, I. I follow my buddies, but I've, Like, I follow the teams now, too, and it kind of forces me to. It, like, scratches the itch, definitely, man. And I don't know, it's. It's fun. Like, am I going to do it forever? I don't know. Like, do they want me to do it forever? I don't know. But, I mean, I think I would do it for another year, and it's kind of, like, grown into other things, and I have different opportunities, so I'm trying to, like, stay patient in it all, you know, and it's hard sometimes. And then doing, like, the breakdowns on. On Twitter or on my YouTube channel now, but. Which is weird to say. Like, I feel like a loser. Hey, pal.

[B]

Hey. Welcome to the club.

[C]

Like, all right. Yeah, you know, please tune in. Yeah, yeah. Like, and subscribe. I'm like, I refuse to say that. Like, and subscribe. No way. But. No, but the. I don't know. I'm just. I'm. I'm trying. Stuff like that is an experiment.

[A]

The.

[C]

The TV stuff is, you know, an experiment, but also, you know, fun to do, so I'll see where it goes. But I'm not, like, in a hurry. Yeah, really. Like, I just didn't want to want, like, especially with my two young kids, like, how lucky am I to be able to hang them up? And I just don't want to jump at the first thing and it be the wrong thing. And then all of a sudden, I'm like, oh, you know.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So, like, I can be a dad. I can be around. I don't have to travel as much, even though I kind of travel a little bit for the tv. But it's been. It's been good. Yeah, it's been fun. Hell, yeah, man.

[A]

It's awesome. Like we said, it's good to. Good to have you in this world.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

We need more people like you.

[C]

Well, hey, I'm. I'm just down the road, so whenever you guys want me on there we go. Yeah.

[A]

Y. Yeah.

[B]

Okay. So we're going to play. We play a game with everybody that comes on. It's Called pass, shoot, score. We're going to play with you right now. Basically, we give you categories of things, and then I will give you three things in that category that I know you like.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

You have to rank them. Pass, shoot, score.

[C]

Is this like Mary?

[B]

It's exactly like that.

[A]

Exactly.

[C]

There we go.

[B]

So pass is your least favorite, cuz. Pass. Passing the pucks. Fine, whatever.

[C]

Shooting.

[B]

Your next favorite. Scoring.

[C]

All right.

[B]

Okay, your first category.

[C]

I'm a college grad.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's literally an accounting degree.

[B]

So he knows how.

[C]

He knows exciting stuff. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Okay. Your first category is Rochester Hills Treats.

[C]

Treats.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Okay. So pass, shoot, score.

[C]

Can I guess the three things that you're going to say?

[B]

Yes. No.

[C]

No, no, no.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Well, I mean, actually write him down because I want to see if he's gonna snipe all three.

[C]

Okay. I probably won't, but I bet you.

[B]

I bet you.

[A]

I bet he gets a couple.

[B]

I bet he gets two of the three, because, you know, it's. It's tricky. Like, I know I find some that I'm like, he definitely loves this. But then some I'm like, who knows?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I think this is a part of his life.

[A]

We can't let our research be encrypted too much.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly, exactly.

[C]

Can I put more than three?

[B]

Yes, yes, yes, yes. Absolutely.

[A]

Sure can.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Okay, your first one. And the first one I think is the one might. He might not have.

[A]

I agree.

[C]

I'm.

[A]

I think this is going to be the pass.

[B]

Me, too. But I just think it was from his childhood.

[A]

It's iconic.

[B]

It's from his childhood. Okay, so pass you score. Hitting Dairy Queen for ice cream after a hockey game. Hitting, and I'm not sure how you pronounce it, La Pumas. La Pumas. Coney. Coney island for a dog. Or hitting Yates Cider Mill for an apple cider.

[C]

All right. I thought we were going like treats, like sweets.

[B]

Oh, oh, oh.

[C]

Okay, So I have hometown bakery, Naps Donuts. And then I put.

[A]

We had Naps Donuts.

[C]

Yeah. Okay. Those are good. I grew up on dq. Yep. So it was DQ and La Pumas.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

All right. I'm scoring La Pumas every day of the week. That's my go to spot.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Coney Dog. It's the best.

[A]

You have no idea how much this fires us up, because it's gonna open a whole new door of conversation in one second.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So finish your pastures.

[C]

Lupuma. Tony is like the man. Like, people I went to high school with still work There. Really? It's awesome. And it's like. Like, that's when I go home. Like, I don't make it. We live in. In the summer up in near Traverse City. Yeah. But I don't make it down.

[B]

I went there for a wedding.

[C]

Yeah. But it's always like. It's where my buddies and I, we always meet.

[B]

Really?

[C]

And it's like, you think, like, I should go back and, like, meet at the bar, but it's like, nah, dog. Like, we're going.

[B]

No pun intended.

[C]

Yeah, we're going to Lapuma. Like, we're sitting out by the river, like, the little creek there. It's awesome. And, like, two Coneys and a Greek salad. Dude. And fries. Perfect to share on the table.

[B]

Share fries, because you got to keep

[C]

it tight, you know, Always.

[A]

Always.

[C]

But scoring that for sure. Okay, I. I think I got a. This kills me. This is hard. I think I got a pass on Yates.

[D]

Fuck.

[A]

Wow. Okay. Does Yates do the cider donuts and all that, too?

[C]

They do cider thing, which is unreal. But there's a reason why I gotta go shoot with dq. So that DQ downtown, that was actually. I'm like, all right, so I'm not one to have any street cred, but I'm blowing it now. But, like, my wife and I started dating when we were, like. I was like, 31, 32. So we were beyond all the bullshit, right? Sure. All that stuff.

[A]

No games and.

[C]

Yeah, no games. And it was easy. We both knew, like, it was. Was easy. And so I went back for my buddy's wedding, and I. I brought her in in August. And so that was at, like, the Henry Ford Museum downtown. We were staying elsewhere, but I'm like, I got to take you to my hometown. Yeah. And so I take her to Rocher or Rochester Mills Brewery, and we have dinner. We have Rochester Red. Like, that's the go to thing. Went to Hometown Bakery and then went to Knaps Donuts. Got a donut for, like, a post, I guess, dessert.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. That counts.

[C]

It's kind of. They call it a bang bang. Like, you go. You go to dinner one place, and then you just go to another dinner. That's a quickie, Jackie. Quick thing. Yeah, yeah. Bang bang. Yeah, yeah. But we went two desserts, and so then we went to dq, because I'm like, I can't come home and not go to dq. Well, so we were sitting outside, and my now wife was like, you. You, like, haven't asked me to be your girlfriend yet. Yeah. And I was like, what? Like, yeah, you're in my hometown at Dairy Queen and I brought you back. Yeah. And we've been dating for, like, I don't know, five, four or five months. I'm like, is that a thing? Like, do you need me to go on Facebook too and make it Facebook official? Like, are we? Are we? Yeah. Do I need to do. Like, is this. Are we in high school all over again? Like. And she's like, well, it would be night. And I was like, well, I kind of thought it was implied, but like, yeah. I'm like, would you be my girlfriend? And we both have like a cone or. It's so corny and cheesy.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[C]

Like, that's what I mean. You're literally. We might have to cut this out.

[A]

You're 13 years old.

[C]

Yeah, exactly. And I'm like, I.

[A]

Do you want to lick a mine?

[C]

Yeah. We might have to cut this. Yeah. What's yours is mine. What's mine is our. We wrapped and like, you know. No, but I was like, I can't believe I'm doing this. But yeah. So then we always laugh when we drive by and it's like, well, I guess that's where we made it. Like, dude, that's your. So that's why I got a pass on Yates. But I also, when I was out with my face, they. Long story, but they flew me to Ann Arbor to see a neurologist for like a week. So I went to my hometown and it was fall peak cider and donut season, so we went to Yates.

[B]

And it's dynamite.

[C]

Dynamite.

[B]

Dude, I love a cider too.

[C]

Yeah, it's so good. And that's the nice thing about, like being up north in Michigan now it's like we're really close to an orchard and that's like everyone that comes to town. It's like the hot donuts and the cider and it's like the best. So I feel bad.

[A]

Shout out.

[C]

Y don't mean to pass on. No.

[A]

We got love for all of us.

[C]

I got a legit.

[B]

You shot your shot at dq. You had to shoot. Exactly.

[A]

Let's be quick on this one because I do want to move to the dog conversation.

[C]

Okay. Yeah.

[A]

What do you get at dq? Cuz there was like, at dq. Yeah, like, there was a. There was one DQ by us in like Kittery Main. But like, we didn't go that off often. But when I was younger, every time people would have the like, no, no,

[C]

dude, for me, they don't flip it upside down. That's true.

[A]

I. I used to get horny seeing that, like chocolate or like cherry coated twisty cone. That shit was insane to me. Like, it looks unbelievable.

[C]

Okay, that's my go to.

[B]

Is it?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And what flavor?

[C]

Vanilla cone dipped in cherry.

[A]

In cherry.

[C]

Every time.

[A]

I mean, it looks.

[C]

Every time.

[A]

It's the most appealing looking thing I've ever. Specifically the cherry.

[C]

Yeah, it's unbelievable. And it's probably just full of red 40.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I'm just like, give it to me.

[C]

Buzzing out. Yeah. Just like inject it straight into my veins. Yeah, put it right in.

[B]

All right.

[C]

But. Yeah, but not all dairy. Like, not all dairy queens around the country are the same. So, like, a lot of them don't have the cherry dip. Yeah, but it must be like a Midwest thing. Like.

[A]

No, we had it. We had it in Maine.

[C]

Like, it's all like, Dairy Queen is more for food. And I'm like, wait, they actually serve food at Dairy Queen?

[A]

You got the burger?

[B]

Yeah. What are you talking about?

[C]

Like, I've never once eaten at Dairy Queen, like, ever.

[A]

I did not realize there were hot options here. What are you talking about?

[C]

But I will say, like on National Blizzard Day or whatever, like, you gotta go blizzard.

[B]

You gotta. You gotta do it. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Change it up.

[B]

But.

[C]

But I would say more often than not, I'm. Cherry dip.

[A]

Yeah. Okay, good. All right. So at La Pumas and you get the Coney, what is your go to?

[C]

Two Coneys and a Greek salad. And. And then fries.

[B]

They have some epic ones. I saw. I looked at the men menu.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

The New York dog looks pretty gas. I mean, like, you get the crowd. Mustard, onion. Texas is barbecue. Coleslaw.

[C]

Like, come on, you guys did your research. Yeah, brother, I love that.

[A]

We also don't around when it comes to hot dogs.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

So this is what. Here's the thing.

[C]

The more you do, we need to fly to Rochester.

[A]

Okay. You know what we're gonna do? Seriously?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

If it's the last thing we do, we will go to Rochester and go to this place. And then we have to go to Maine because there's a dog shop in our hometown called Flo's Head to head comparison.

[B]

Yes. Because it's also famous.

[C]

Blind taste test. Yes. How though?

[A]

They're so different. Which fires me up because, like, lot of bells and whistles going on here at La Pumas, which I love. Flo's is like, it's a small dog. It's a steamed bun and steamed dog. And they make this thing called Flo's relish. That is, like, the craziest, delicious, like, sweet and sour type relish you've ever had. And it's just like, they're going to be so different. It's going to be incredible.

[C]

Yeah, well, it's like, I'm. I'm fine with the head to head comparison, but we need to figure out logistics because. Yeah, because Coney's do not travel well.

[A]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's why we got to go, like, we got to, like, sit there and eat. Then we got to get on the bird and go to Maine and sit there.

[C]

Are we doing bang bang? I'll tell you one thing, I feel bad for the rest of the people on that flight back from Maine.

[A]

Dude, we're just like this. We've just been flying around the country eating hot dogs. People are like this. You guys sit in a row together, please.

[B]

A lot. Like, Traverse City summer. Like, it's the same vibe, you know,

[A]

it's just so pretty, so nice. It's amazing.

[C]

Yeah, it's the best. But yeah, with. With the Coney, though, it's just the. The chili or whatever, you know, coney and then mustard and onion, like, that. You're not going crazy. Like, you're not throwing. It's not like, Chicago style, which is very good, by the way.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

But, yeah, no, it's great.

[A]

All right, we're gonna stay on food. Your next one is road trip dinners.

[B]

Like, NHL road trip.

[A]

Pastured score Bottle in. In Hermosa.

[B]

Ooh.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Sorrentino's in Edmonton.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Good bread there. And then Italian kitchen in Vancouver getting truffle spaghetti and meatballs.

[C]

Yeah, truffle spaghetti and meatballs. And this is hard because, like, part of me wants to go score with the truffle spaghetti meatballs. That was like, me and Dustin Brown's spot. Like, it didn't. I mean, we could have had a team dinner. It's like, sorry, boys. No, it would never do that. But, like, that was our spot.

[B]

Have fun, guys.

[A]

That's when you do a bang bang.

[B]

You go to Italian kitchen first.

[C]

Yeah. See you later. Yeah. Yeah. But I can't. Like, I live right next to bottle land, and that's, like, my go to spot that.

[A]

Can I be honest? I. I almost hesitate saying it because I don't want people to know about bottle.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, it's like, I feel like it's one of those things that I'm like, I don't need people hearing about bottle.

[C]

I love that spot. I mean, my Wife and I, we're always like, Martha's across the street in Bottleland, like all the time. Green store for a sandwich, but. And we only live like a couple blocks from there. But I guess I gotta go with my hometown and score with Bottle.

[B]

Hell yeah.

[C]

I'm a. I'm gonna shoot with Italian Kitchen. And then what was the third one we're gonna pass?

[A]

Sorrentino.

[C]

Oh, Sorrentino's. It's like. Yeah. I mean, that's obviously iconic spot. Yeah, we actually. Yeah, we had. We had the. We've had quite a few team dinners there actually. Yeah. The night before the Edmonton series in Vegas.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Nice.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They pulled out all the stops, so tip of the cap to them.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Especially for the. And they didn't poison our food.

[B]

Yeah, right.

[C]

At least not that I know of. We either have iron stomachs or they just didn't pour poison or food.

[B]

That's so good. That's so good. Okay, your next category is books.

[C]

Ooh.

[B]

Non fiction books.

[C]

All right, good. Because if it were fiction.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You wouldn't know about reading. You don't even watch tv, bro.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It's crazy. Okay. In the Garden of Beasts.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Fearless. A history of the world in six glasses.

[C]

O. All right, I gotta go. Fearless. That's one of the best stories I have ever, ever read in my entire.

[B]

Dude. Holy.

[C]

I would undoubtedly recommend that to anyone.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

It's incredible. Adam Brown. That is undoubtedly.

[B]

Score.

[C]

In the Garden of Beasts. I'm like, I like history and stuff, so I gotta. I gotta shoot on that one and then pass on the. The six glasses. I mean, it looked cool, actually.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

Like the six glasses is cool, but like, I'm on blood thinners right now, so, like, I can't drink, so I'm gonna have to.

[B]

To.

[C]

For right now, we just need to

[A]

get that out of mind. Outside, out of mind for now. That's true.

[C]

That's true. That's true. I suppose that people listening. That has zero context, but we'll just leave it at that. Just temporary.

[B]

It's just temporary. Just temporary.

[A]

Three bucks.

[B]

Three bucks. Three months. Okay.

[C]

I love it.

[B]

All right. Fearless. I got to check it out.

[A]

I agree. I mean, also, if you're into history books, I got a whole.

[B]

I like your non fiction book. I got a couple ones.

[C]

You'll do. It's like I. Fiction. Save fiction for the movie.

[B]

Exactly.

[C]

Yeah. Like I. I don't know. Like if I want fiction, like if I'm gonna sit down and actually read, like I want to Kind of learn something that actually.

[A]

Yeah, that's fair. It's a very fair.

[C]

If I want to turn my brain off, like, how am I going to do that reading? Yeah, you know, like, I. I don't know. I saw someone, maybe someone much smarter that works for them, but like me. Nah. Like. Yeah, I'll save that for.

[B]

What would you say for movies? I only found two, so I didn't include it. I was going to do Forrest Gump and Dumb and Dumber.

[C]

Forrest Gump is how, hands down, my number one.

[B]

Yeah, I couldn't find it.

[A]

It's one of three movies you've seen.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, I haven't. I literally haven't seen anything else. Yeah, Dumb and Dumber. I really like Charlie Wilson's War. I think that's like undercover funny. Not funny. Like, like not a funny event. Yeah. Or like. Yeah, yeah, but like, like, that movie is fun. Is like hilarious in it. Yeah. But yeah, Forrest Gump is like. It's. It's incredible.

[A]

Perfect movie.

[C]

Like, it's the. Perfect. It's the best movie ever. Yeah. Because it's like, it's hilarious in so many ways. Like, it's like a good drama in so many ways. Like, yeah, it's the best. And then Dumb and Dumber is just like. That's how I knew I was getting old in a locker room where I would. I would throw out Dumb and Dumber quotes and guys would be like, what? Yeah, you know, it's a bad feeling.

[B]

We interviewed some of the young kids and I. I will reference these movies and they're like, like, what I've never seen.

[A]

We mentioned N64 to Schaefer the other day and he was like, what's that?

[B]

He literally asked me what Nintendo 64 is. Christ.

[C]

I was like, it's a bad goal.

[B]

Nye. Yeah.

[C]

Come on, man.

[A]

Marty, I shit you not. Last week I was like working, doing research on something and I was on Twitter and just scrolling. I scrolled past. It was like a for you post and it was like nostalgic video games. And it was a 13 minute video of just a level from GoldenEye. I watched. You watched all 13 minutes, baby. And I was like, oh, if There was an N64 in this office, I would fire it up right now.

[C]

I'll never forget it. You start out in the ventilation shaft and facility.

[B]

Correct.

[C]

And you have to snipe that dude that's in on the.

[B]

Correct.

[C]

Yeah. Every time. Yeah, that. And then you like, etched into my.

[A]

You do like the freebase jump through that big Fucking vent.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

It's unbelievable. We gotta play some goldeneye. All right, let's round things out. We're gonna do best lions of your lifetime time. O passute score. Megatron and Dama Kungu and Frat Stafford.

[C]

Oh,

[A]

I feel like Barry was a little too early.

[C]

Yeah, Barry was a little early. Yeah. I mean, I guess I got to go. Megatron, that guy was like for. For score. Like, he was incredible. Like, I remember that. Like, what did they do? Like that sports science thing? Remember that?

[A]

That was cool.

[C]

And it was like, if you put this like 14 foot dome around him, he could technically come down with the ball. Like, that's insane. Like, what? He was so fun to watch.

[A]

It's so crazy. I think looking back, that he like retired when he was 30. It's insane. Oh, my God.

[C]

I know. That's like the depressing thing about the Lions. It's like the two guys that are arguably the best to ever do it, like, quit before they.

[B]

Yeah. They don't get enough of this.

[C]

Yeah. That ain't. It's a tough look. Yeah. But don't say.

[A]

Don't say it out loud.

[C]

Hey, cut me open, I bleed hot on Lulu Blue.

[A]

Yes. Correct, baby. Hell yeah.

[C]

All through and through. Like. Yeah, it's. And it's pretty well known fact. But yeah. And so then I. Obviously I'll go Stafford. Yeah. Shoot. And then were you brought joy when

[B]

he won in LA or were you just sad?

[C]

No, I was happy because my whole thing with him is that like, that guy. Hear me out. But I think he was one of the big reasons why they were like, so below average for so long, but not at the bottom of the barrel because he was so good that, like, he made up for so many inefficiencies that they never got that, like, top pick to help him.

[A]

Like, they didn't realize how bad they were.

[C]

And I mean that in like the most positive way possible, for sure. And. And then he, like, he never bitched.

[B]

Yes. Ever. God, ever. I mean, dude, that should be one of my favorite clips ever.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

When he dislocates the shoulder, he goes

[C]

back in, throws the dirt, which is unreal. And he was like, he's. He's a warrior. Like, he. The. What he battled through. And so, yeah, I was pulling for him for sure.

[A]

Like, sue won in Tampa too, right? Was he on that Brady team?

[B]

Ooh, I think so, actually.

[A]

I think he was.

[C]

I think he was too.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Which is sick.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

We got to get Megatron back.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Come to come back. It'd be fine.

[C]

Yeah, sure. Seriously. But, yeah, no, it's. It's been fun.

[B]

Dan Campbell, dude.

[C]

I'm feeling good, dude. I. I don't. I don't even know the guy, but I go through a brick.

[A]

Like, say I. I listen to one speech from him, and I'm like, this. Am I a football guy? Like, a Lions fan?

[C]

I am so. Like, I was.

[A]

So I'm running routes in the backyard.

[C]

That's what I actually said that my job, dream job in retirement was I was just gonna be, like, a Walmart greeter. But, like, at Ford Field.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, that's what everyone said. Like, I'm just gonna go there. Like, I need to learn the stadium inside and out and be like, yeah, you take the stairs up there, the elevator up to the third floor, you know? Yeah. Like, that was. That's my dream job, probably with the Lions. Like, I don't know what I would do other than that.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

I mean, I don't know enough about football.

[A]

That's pretty good. They would take that Detroit, Marty, getting

[B]

into football so big, you know, playing so much hockey, growing up, you know,

[C]

it was always just, like, an outlet for me. Thanks for being like. I mean, I just. Like, I remember I would have, like, when I rented here, my. My landlords would be like, do you want the NHL package and this and that? I'm like, absolutely not. Yeah.

[A]

NFL Network, baby.

[C]

Yeah. No. No chance. They're like, really? You don't want to watch hockey? I'm like, all right. Do you think a plumber wants to come home and fix his own. His own toilet? Like, no. Like, I. I get enough hockey at the rink. Like, I'm good. Like, I don't want. Like, I used to have that conversation with my dad, like, in the summertime, and he want to talk hockey about, like, what's going on in the league, and I'm just like. I'm like, I can't. Like, I don't want to. I need a break.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. So football was always, like, it's probably my favorite sport other than hockey, and there's some days where I liked it more than hockey.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But, yeah, it was always just, like, my outlet. I always love watching. I mean, I don't even care who's playing, but, like, watching it on Sundays, I was. And we. We would get a fair amount of Sundays off, so that was, like, just decompressing.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And hanging.

[B]

It's perfect.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But amazing.

[A]

Amazing. All right, well, Marty, this has been a fucking blast. I think we can all Agree that this is the first of many.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

When you'll be popping on here, before we cut you loose, do you want to tell everyone to, like. And subscribe to your YouTube channel or.

[C]

Yeah. No. But, yes.

[B]

Tell them where to find you.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I started this YouTube channel. Can I go into my little mini scale? Some people have referred to it as my manifesto. Like, I didn't tweet for 10 years, and then all of a sudden, it's like, wham. Yeah. You know, and then. And then people. I had, like, a lot of people reach out to me, and they're like, hey, did your account get hot? You know, I'm like, no, that's actually me.

[A]

Like, this is all here.

[C]

But I started, like, I started brewing on this idea because I was doing it sort of in the broadcast. Yeah. And my thing is that there's so much talent in the NHL that doesn't end up on a score sheet and. Or. Or doesn't end up shown through traditional avenues of skill. So, like, skating, shooting, pass, shoot, score, skating, shooting, stick handling, for sure. You know, blah, blah, blah. So. And it's like, I go through, and it's like, say there's three superstars in every team. There's 700 guys in the league. Yeah, three superstars. So call that 100. Well, there's 600 guys in the league that are there for a reason. And, well, what are they doing? Because they must be doing something. And so I'm like, if I can showcase some of that talent. And it's like, all right, well, this is a highlight reel goal, and deservedly so. Like, it's awesome. Like, well, what happened before that to allow that space to be there and all that. And so if I can showcase the talent. Talent in the league, but then also educate, like, the average fan so they can appreciate the game a little bit more. Well, then that's awesome. Like, that's a win. Win. So. So it's. It's still very primitive, as you can probably tell. I'm figuring it out. It's very much an experiment. I'm playing with lengths. I'm playing with how I talk on it. I'm playing with what I do. Like, goal breakdowns versus. I've done a couple player profiles. I'm sitting on a couple.

[B]

Couple more. Nice.

[C]

Just waiting for the right time to do it. I've got a few other ideas, but, yeah, it's on YouTube. It's called the AM Rewind. The truth of the. Well, I don't know if I should say this. But I'll tell you guys after about there. But the AM rewind meeting like the morning after.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

But also my initials.

[B]

It's like, hey, we got degrees, bro.

[C]

Yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah. We don't have to.

[A]

I'm gonna be honest with you. Phenomenal name. It's a phenomenal name.

[C]

But I toyed with a lot of different things and I'll tell you the genesis story of it once we're done and I'll probably just have to tell it later. But yeah, the AM Rewind on YouTube and actually Tifoli's wife Kat, I've been on her podcast and she was the one that encouraged me. She was like, you gotta get this on YouTube. And I'm like, I started on the Twitter thing and then like I. Someone was like, you got to get on TikTok. And just like a piece of me just died on the inside when I signed up for it. But I'm on it.

[B]

Yes, yes.

[C]

So. And then, and then like the YouTube, I just. It's like, it's longer form. Right. Like if you want highlights, like there's a million places you can go.

[A]

Yeah, for sure.

[C]

You know, like go to NHL.com. but if you want to learn a little bit and watch a little bit, like longer form, like what we're doing right now, it's not that long. Thank God. God. But no one wants to listen to me break down a goal for an hour, you know, and neither do I. I don't want to do that for an hour. But yeah, so it's just, it's been a cool experiment. So. Yeah, tune in YouTube channel, the AM Rewind.

[A]

Hell yeah.

[B]

Incredible.

[C]

Damn.

[B]

God.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

The, the, the shared personal disgust we all have with ourselves for getting on tick tock and YouTube is really special.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

That being said, we should co post some because then it will help everybody.

[A]

There we go.

[C]

Yeah. The Internet can be a horrible, horrible place.

[A]

It sure can.

[C]

But it can be the best place ever too. Yeah.

[A]

And hopefully you all felt that way about this.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Nice D. Amazing dude.

[C]

What a sign off.

[B]

Great job.

[A]

That was awesome. Huge, Huge thank you to Alec Martinez. Such a fucking good homie. So good on the show and confirmed going to be back way more often.

[B]

Dude. Playoffs. We'll get him dialed in for playoffs. Hopefully he's not coming out of his 20th surgery.

[D]

Marty, seriously, we gotta get the bang bang going too. It's not the first time I've heard of that. I have a friend who lives in Rochester and he told me about that years ago and I'm like, wow, okay. It's a regional thing.

[A]

Double dinner. Double dinner is a huge thing.

[B]

We should do that. We should do some playoff recording and then double. Actually, we should. Since the playoff games are so late, we should bang bang while watching playoff games with him and then come record.

[A]

It is my dream to have one of our buddies who is an NHL guy back in LA and jumping on the show. And here he is making my dreams come true. Can't believe it. It's awesome.

[B]

What a dude. Thank you so much.

[A]

Let's take a quick ad break and then jump on back. Everyone knows that Bauer is the best in the game when it comes to hockey gear. I wear it head to toe. But now I get to cross my loves of hockey and fashion and talk about Bauer's new spring apparel collection. Yes, we know that all of these athletic brands make a lot of these cool, more casual spring collections, but they never quite get it right. Well, let me tell you what Bauer has. You know me, if you watch the show, I'm a fancy boy. I wear tweed pants. I love designer clothing and sometimes I just want to be comfy and I want to be able to combine that athletic lifestyle that I have with comfortable clothes that also look great. That is what Bauer has done. They're combining their roots in Kitchener, Ontario into a lot of their designs. They're embracing some of these cool, more heavyweight baggy fits. And when it comes to the gym stuff in the spring collection, it's unbelievable. You've seen me always rocking the Bauer athletic wear in the gym. They're short their tops, it's all amazing. But when it comes to hoodies, T shirts, crew necks, whatever you want, where you can take that athletic lifestyle from the gym or the rink and then pop on some Bauer gear that fits you perfectly because of your athletic style and also feels amazing and looks amazing, Bauer is absolutely crushing it. So you are going to level up your off ice game and check out the Bauer spring apparel collection, available [e-mail] from the rink to the street, Bauer has you covered. Shop the new spring apparel [e-mail] we are back at the university. We were on a nice little sabbatical, Nice little vacation. Went to Utah.

[B]

Yes. Went to the States.

[A]

I was sitting in a nice robe.

[B]

You were.

[A]

I was. And it's time for Professor Puckline to be back for us to go through our picks for the weekend of how you should make some money on BetMGM. And we are dabbling again in a situation where the Friday Fade continues to be the Hottest thing since mother's biscuits. Absolutely brilliant.

[B]

Fresh out the oven. Fresh out the oven. But first, the mega parlay recap. Sens, no. Isles. Yes. I hate when you lose the first game.

[A]

Will you just keep reading, you fucking twat?

[B]

Ducks. Ducklings. No. Wild. No. Stars. Yes. Canes. Yes. Jackets. No. Sabers. Yes.

[C]

Always.

[B]

Yes. Blues. Yes. Preds.

[A]

No.

[B]

Aves. No. Wings.

[A]

No.

[B]

Jesus. Wings. Mammoth. Yes.

[A]

Flames.

[B]

Yes. Caps. Yes. Nice finish, gentlemen. Eight and seven.

[A]

Just above 500. Just how we like it.

[B]

Just how we like it.

[A]

We're not terrible, we're not great. But we're better than bad.

[B]

That's fine. Everything's fine.

[A]

That's fantastic.

[B]

What is not fantastic in we are not striving for 500 is the life on the line parlay, which is supposed to win. The life on the line parlay is supposed to win. To win. And it has not won. And it was. Aisles. Yes. Caps. Yes.

[A]

Preds.

[B]

No. Jackets.

[A]

No. I think I went 0 and 2.

[B]

You, Daniel. You did.

[A]

First time in my life.

[B]

Yes. And I didn't want to bring it up, but you.

[A]

You have to hold me accountable.

[B]

We do better.

[A]

You have gone, Owen To.

[B]

Several times.

[A]

Several times.

[B]

Several times. Welcome. Welcome.

[A]

I. It feels terrible down there. I feel like.

[B]

Welcome, Daniel.

[A]

Radio Watford now. What is not terrible is the Friday Fade. As I said, we gave you the rags over the Hawks and the Rags won six.

[B]

One last place team does not win unless you Friday fade them. And then they do win.

[A]

Truly brilliant.

[B]

Incredible. This week another 2 gamer on Friday makes our job both more difficult and easy.

[C]

It's very true.

[B]

Flyers at Islanders. Blues at Ducks.

[A]

Because the Flyers have surged so significantly and are back in a wildcard race. I don't think how there's any world where we don't say that the Blues over the first place in the Pacific Ducks is not our Friday fade. Therefore, we shall take the Friday Fade to Anaheim, right after a trip to Disneyland. And take the St. Louis Blues on

[B]

a West coast swing. The Blues on a West coast swing. No universe. Do they win this game?

[A]

Possibly win.

[B]

No universe.

[A]

Couldn't possibly do.

[B]

The Blues win this game. So we will select them with the Friday Fade Saturday. Selly. We gave you, sir Tage Thompson. The Sabres won 32 in a shootout on Saturday. Tades had the shootout winner. That does not count, unfortunately.

[A]

Which is.

[B]

Which is bullshit.

[A]

Frankly, I think that's fucking rubbish. That's rubbish. Taj Thompson used his stick and put a puck in the back of the

[B]

net and then celebrated.

[A]

He never seen the win.

[B]

He then celebrated the goal, which is the entire point of the Saturday sale.

[A]

Absolute rubbish. Who do we have? What are our options for this Saturday?

[B]

Some people to keep an eye on this Saturday goal. Caulfield at the Devils because he is on Rocket watch. Officially. Wow. Dylan Gunther at the Canucks. The lowly Canucks. Juice versus the Leafs at home. I just feel like the Kings need to win. And Juice must score for the Kings to beat the Leafs, who are terrible. McDavid versus Vegas. He always. He loves Vegas and he's a home game and he's been on fire. And then Cutter. Cutter is nearing 40. Is he very close to 40. Which he will get. Cutter versus the flames.

[A]

If I may, please. Choosing Cole Caulfield for the SAT. He is Mr. Saturday.

[B]

Yes. And he paid us this on it's not two weeks.

[A]

Saturday games. 26 goals. He has that bet. Bears fruit nearly every time. It feels like playing with fire. We've started calling him Mr. Saturday and now we're going to do it again. I love the Peck, though.

[B]

Yes, of course. It was worthy of discussion.

[A]

Worthy of discussion. I love it. I do love the vibes. Cheering on our mate Adrian Kempe versus the Leafs. And a must win match. Stanley Hill score. I do also love friend of the program, cutter Gaultier chasing 40. Those would be my picks between Juice and Cutter. Cole. Juice.

[B]

Oh, Cole is playing Saturday.

[A]

Does it feel like we're testing fate? Yes. Or does it feel like you fucking.

[B]

Or you're listening to us.

[A]

You absolutely listen to us. It's yelling. He scores every Saturday. He's chasing 50 pick Cole Caulfield.

[B]

Yes. Because chasing 40 is cool, but you know, it's cooler chasing 50.

[A]

A billion of billion dollars. Billion dollars.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

I feel.

[B]

Oh, fucking hell.

[A]

I fucking. Let's let. Let's just let it fucking ride. The Saturday Sally will be Mr. Saturday himself, Cole Caufield to score and potentially get his 50 against the New Jersey Devils. We will take Cole Caulfield as our Saturday Sally. Mr. Saturday himself.

[B]

Incredible.

[A]

But we're rooting for our mate, Adrian Campbe. Goal against and must win game. We must win.

[B]

Must win. Must win. Must win the Sunday hat trick parlay. We gave you the Keynes money line. We gave you under 6.5. And we gave you a Seth Jarvis point because we needed to burn and learn. Remember? We needed to burn and learn. It was under 6.5. Jarvey had an assist and the habs. We were only burned. We were double burned. It was a second degree burn, Daniel.

[A]

We need to fucking get back on track with this second degree. This is awesome.

[B]

This Sunday, Wild at Wings, Panthers at Pen's. Bruins at Flyers. Canes at Sens. Devils at habs. Caps at rags. Blues at Aves. It seemed to me that these scorching caps would vanquish the rubbish rags.

[A]

I feel the same way.

[B]

Way. Caps money line.

[A]

However. No, I feel the same.

[B]

Caps money line. Under 6.5. Strong point.

[A]

Do we. I like it.

[B]

We could go over.

[A]

I like scoring. Strobe point. If OVI scores, it'll be on the strobe point.

[B]

It's a great point.

[A]

So I love it. But we are taking the under.

[B]

It's up to you.

[A]

I think we take the under.

[B]

Me too.

[A]

Lt. Lt. Shesty Caps Moneyline under. Dylan Strom point. Take it to the bank. Put it in your pipe. Smoke it by a fire. Now for this week's mega parlay, live on a beach. 15 games. Let us begin.

[B]

Come home one time. Dr. Watkins.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

Are you ready?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Wings at rags.

[A]

Oh, Wings.

[B]

Yes. Daniel. Wild at sens.

[A]

Give me the wild.

[B]

Ooh. Little bounce back.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Christopher. Avs at stars. What a game. What a game. Stars been terrible at home. Feels like almost the game. They get right on. Give me the stars. Give me the stars in that one. Dr. Watkins. Bruins Bolts.

[D]

Bolts.

[B]

Daniel. Cats at Pens.

[A]

I think the Pens stay red hot.

[B]

Yes. Yes, sir. Yes. Yes. Yes. Pens. Yes.

[A]

Pens.

[B]

Christopher Habs at Devils. Surely the Habs cannot lose this game. I will take the haps, Dr. Watkins. Sabers at caps.

[D]

Ooh.

[C]

Mm.

[D]

Sabers.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Chocolate crepe. Chocolate. Then it's a bounce back win for the Caps. Yes.

[B]

And then they burn. They burn.

[A]

I like where your head's at. It's brilliant, Daniel. Brilliant.

[B]

Isles at cades. Ah.

[A]

I believe this is a must win game for the Isles. I think they can do it. I'm taking the Isles.

[B]

And maybe they burn and learn. Maybe they burn and learn. Surely the Christopher jets at Jackets. Oh, give me the Jackets. It just feels like they need one. They need one so badly. Get in. Watkins Mammoth at Canuck.

[D]

Mammoth.

[B]

Mammoth. Daniel Leafs at Kings.

[A]

We already know Kings. Not even thinking about it. They need it. They're getting it.

[B]

Christopher Knights at Oilers. I just. The Knights need it. But they're not gonna have it. They will not have it. Give me the Oilers.

[A]

Not even with torts.

[B]

Wow. Give me the Oilers. Watkins Flames at Ducks.

[D]

The Flames. The Dew.

[B]

Yes. Yes. Fucking hell.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Daniel. Preds at Sharks. Sharks.

[A]

I declared them dead. They got and they are not.

[B]

They control their destiny. And this is the team they must control it against Christopher Hawks at spunk. Give me the spunk. Need it as well.

[A]

I feel like every time the spunk play in your picking, it's hard not to do it.

[B]

Same with him.

[A]

Roughly 95. Professor Feeny.

[B]

Professor Feeny is a big spunker.

[A]

Big spunk.

[B]

He spunks every time he spunks every time.

[D]

He's a pervert.

[B]

Yeah, he's a pervert. As am I. Feeny.

[A]

I are pervert.

[B]

You two are an educated gentleman of Oxford. We are perverts. Live on a beach. Wings. Wild. Stars. Bolts.

[A]

Pens.

[B]

Habs. Sabers. Aisles. Jackets. Mammoth. Kings. Oilers. Flames. Sharks. Spunk.

[A]

Surely life on the line.

[B]

Get your act together.

[A]

Four games, four money lines.

[B]

Get your act together. Do you want to go first?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

There's penance.

[A]

There's penance for the losses. As though it needs to happen. My first. Their goalie is fighting. Perhaps it's good lighting, but the Rangers now don't look so shit. Laffey's got 50 points. He's the star of this joint. Unfortunate the rest of the team has quit. But it's no longer March. A playoff thirst could be parched. Detroit needs to pick it up just a smidge. But if the driver gets to year 10 and the wings miss again, these fans will jump off a fucking bridge. Red Wings.

[B]

Moneyline.

[C]

Come on, Detroit.

[B]

Come on.

[A]

Please get in.

[B]

Come on, Whigs. Come on.

[A]

Christ.

[B]

Christ. Next leg. Next leg. Wearing only one sweater and delivering playoff hype. You only think of Mr. Cross. He's simply not to wear multiple sweaters. Type. That would be Mr. Cosby. Penguins money line. Penguins money line. Like number two.

[C]

Oh, God.

[A]

Oh, no.

[D]

No.

[C]

Smee. Dear me.

[A]

Our third money line job's on the line. But don't worry, everything's fine. The Kings need to win every game. Good news. It's the Leafs. Isn't that a relief for this team is an absolute shame. Mana is gone soon, Poppy. Before long, the fan base must truly be torn. They're so good at being bad. Perhaps a new profession could be had. Time to dabble in humiliation porn.

[C]

Kings.

[A]

Money line.

[B]

Come on, Kings.

[A]

Just think about it.

[B]

Come on, Wings.

[A]

Come on, Kings. A leaf. So you could do something different. You're used to the humiliation.

[B]

Final leg. Final leg. The Mammoth say playoffs are basically in full swing. While championship teams say, you must be Joe. But Utah knows how to simulate the real thing. This is the land that invented soaky.

[A]

Saw it from a mile away. Just a mile away. Well, surely that is your four leg parlay winner. Life on the Line. Brilliant.

[B]

Mammoth Pens, Kings, wings.

[A]

Take it to the bench.

[B]

Take it. Step. Step your game up. Step your game up. We're supposed to win. Win.

[A]

Class dismissed. And let's get back to the regular program and.

[B]

Wow. Thank you to the professors. Professors, as always. Those are. Take those right to the bank. I love those guys.

[A]

They always were.

[B]

I love those guys.

[A]

All right.

[B]

Not ice. The.

[A]

Let's get into some. Not ice.

[B]

Let's get into some. Not ice. I think we said on one of the pods recently that we saw Hail Mary. Have you seen Hail Mary?

[D]

Yeah, I saw Thursday that I did like the old school, like. Like the night before it releases. Remember when that used to be a thing? It was like midnight.

[A]

Oh, dude. Midnight. Now it's like.

[D]

Now it's like. They're just like, oh, yeah, four o'.

[B]

Clock. That's. I saw Tuesday at four.

[A]

I saw every single Lord of the Rings at midnight.

[D]

Did you?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Wow.

[A]

It was sick.

[D]

I'm getting too hey. For it, honestly.

[A]

I am. I'm pretty sick. Yeah. I was getting with all the chicks, dude.

[D]

I bet. Yeah.

[A]

I'd walk into school and be like this. Saw Lord of the Rings last night. Midnight. It was up till 3:30 in the morning.

[D]

I call my. You're like. I call my penis sting. And they're like, that doesn't sound.

[A]

No, sounds horrible. And I'm like this. No, no. It glows when dangers are out. And they're like, okay, I'm back.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. That's actually a weapon, dude.

[D]

Who's radioactive now?

[A]

The.

[B]

I went to Return of the King at midnight with Dan, presumably. I can't remember if you were with us. And at school the next morning, I fell asleep in like first or second block and. Cause we were reading. It was an English class. And they were like, just read a little bit. And I was like. So I fell asleep and then someone tried to wake me up and shout out Mrs. Rosenberg. She was like. She knew I had seen Lord of the Rings at midnight. And she was like, let him sleep.

[D]

Nice.

[B]

Huge.

[A]

Did she do that?

[D]

Cinema fan.

[A]

The Rosenbergs rock shout out.

[B]

Okay, so we've seen you. If you haven't seen Hail Mary by now. Are you listening to this on fucking Thursday?

[A]

Yeah, I think I said it right.

[D]

Spoilers incoming. Right?

[B]

No, no, no, no, no.

[A]

We're not even talking Hail Mary. No.

[D]

Oh, fuck.

[A]

I mean, I think I said it. I. I was really sharp on my assessment of that movie. I was like, I think it's getting a little bit overhyped as far as the reaction, because people are desperate for a fucking blockbuster that knocked our tits off. And here we are titlis. Because it did exactly that. Is it the greatest movie of all time? No, but it didn't have to be because it's a fucking blast and it's worth every second.

[B]

Dude, I so did a stat EV that was like, this is the second movie along with Oppenheimer, or it said only two movies, Hail Mary and Oppenheimer have grossed whatever 80 million domestically opening weekend in the last decade that aren't sequel, reboot, spin off, whatever. Like only two original ideas that in the last decade. I was like, what? Devastating.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Anyway, the movie. I love the book, but the movie is made perfectly funny by the writer, the directors, but one Ryan Gosling, who is perfect.

[C]

What a dream.

[B]

Perfect for this one role. And Dan had said to me recently that Gosling kind of found his lane here in his old. In his. In his later path of his career, you know, and he was joking. Like, God, his Gosling's agent earlier must have just been like, you are fucking killing me, dude.

[A]

Well, man, it's like this. If. If we're going to go through, we're going to pull a Bill Simmons here. Shout out. Bill Simmons. He recently made one of his great acting comp videos where he compared Russell Crowe to Shaq, where he was like,

[D]

truly in the early Russell Crowe and Kazaam or whatever.

[B]

Oh, that would be hilarious.

[A]

Yeah, that would have been unbelievable.

[D]

Or Shazam.

[B]

Yeah, Shazam.

[A]

That would have been unbelievable. There was a. In the early 2000s, absolute height of their game, truly dominant run, best in the game. Shaq was undeniable, could not be beat. Russell Crowe had Gladiator, A Beautiful Mind, Master Commander. Like, he was LA Confidential. Yeah, LA Confidential. It was unstoppable. Then they kind of stopped training a little bit, maybe packed on a few pounds, let the game slip a little bit. But then he was like. But then. And like, I forget what it was with Russell Crowe. It was like the nice guys comes out. It's like Shaq's Miami Heat days, where he's like, couldn't really move as well, but he was fucking putting on an unbelievable shift. Shift got a fucking championship, you know. And I was like, wow, this is unbelievable. I need to come up with like the hockey player comp for Gosling of Gosling because. Because in my opinion, it's Gosling. Early days, we had. Remember the Titans and we had Half Nelson, Lars and the Real Girl. Couple of my favorite movies. Half Nelson's a little intense. In what I'm saying, let's go to the Notebook where he shows heart, he shows compassion and the emotions, but he's always so funny and charming. He is the comedic relief in there. We had Blue Valentine. I'm gonna put Half Nelson is a tough movie. And we had Murder by Numbers. If you've seen that with Sandra Bullock, unbelievable film. These were the movies that were like, is Gosling fracture throw in there, too? Great movie. Anthony Hopkins, Rosamund Pike. These are the movies where his agent and I'm sure Ryan were like, are you like, Leo? Are you a drama guy? Like, what are we doing here? And that's where I always reference when his agent must have been like, will this motherfucker do a blockbuster film for the love of fucking God and get us paid? Because he was just ripping indies, like, getting Oscar noms, but he was ripping indies for a decade. And it was like, what the fuck are we doing here? Then Crazy Stupid Love came out, made him an international star. And that, to me, was international star making because it was his wheelhouse. And like I said, remember the titans, the Notebook, Lars and the Real Girl? His wheelhouse heart with comedy. Crazy Stupid Love was heart with comedy. That made him a star. But then they not made the mistake because he can do it all. But they were like, all right, you are a superstar, a list movie star. We're gonna put you in these serious, gritty, dramatic roles. We got drive. We got Blade Runner 2049, one of my favorite movies. We got first, man, but it was like, is this where you shine? And then he blew our tits off again with the nice guys, with Barbie, with Fall Guy, and now with this.

[B]

This is Gosling.

[A]

Is Gosling's fucking fastball.

[B]

It is, dude.

[D]

I will say, though, that Fall Guy, it did not do as well at the box office, and. But I saw the movie. I liked the movie. I think that people were a little overexposed to him at that point. Barbie, he should have taken a break.

[A]

You know what I think? I don't. I think that's a great and astute take. I think it is a shame because that movie not doing better at the box office is one of the great tragedies of the last 10 years in film. Fall Guy is fucking incredible.

[D]

It's great. It's so incredible.

[A]

And the chemistry he and Emily Blunt have is some of the best I've seen in forever. And also, I have watched that movie. I'm not kidding. Planes are included in this. I have watched Fall guy at least 10 times.

[D]

Holy shit.

[A]

That movie is so fucking funny and it is so worthy of the watch. It's a blast.

[D]

But you know, that is a reboot of an old series too, weirdly. But it's original enough because I feel like nobody really.

[B]

No one knew that.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

His ip. His physical comedy in that. That might be his best physical. I mean, this one's pretty close. But the physical comedy he delivers in the fall guy is out of this world.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay, so the three of us are.

[A]

I'm gonna come up with the perfect NHL player comp to what happened here.

[B]

The three of us are right now gonna decide on, in order. Gosling's top 10 roles. And we have to agree. We don't have to do them in order, but we're gonna get. We're gonna get one through 10 and we have to agree. And it's like a blind ranking, except we. It's not blind.

[A]

Okay. Amazing.

[D]

Got it.

[B]

Okay. What do you. I'm not gonna list all these, but you guys can see them. What do you think is.

[A]

And these aren't all of his movies, like, we know. These are just Place beyond the Pines. Yeah, a couple things.

[D]

I mean, I haven't seen every single

[C]

one of these films.

[B]

That's. Okay. Me neither.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So which ones do you think are for sure in his best roles?

[D]

I gotta. I gotta put. I gotta. I gotta ride for drive.

[B]

Okay. We've got a Drive.

[A]

Doesn't even speak and drive.

[B]

We've got a Drive. Benjamin.

[A]

He's mute.

[D]

Movies are about visual.

[A]

Visual. We're talking about Ryan Gosling performances.

[B]

Okay, well, we just have a vote for Drive Dan.

[A]

No. Okay. Project Hail Mary.

[B]

Project Hail Mary. Okay, we've got a vote for Hail Mary. We've got. I'm gonna put the notebook in there.

[A]

Okay, interesting. We also didn't mention La La Land. La La Land. It's. I'm looking at the list that you've typed up. How is La La Land not on this list?

[D]

It is list.

[A]

Oh, I just. I skipped over it. Sorry.

[C]

It's on.

[A]

La La Land was. La La Land was in that. In my rant. There was in the same category as where I put the nice guys and the. Yeah, okay.

[B]

The big short. You love that performance.

[A]

I'm putting in the big short.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

100%.

[B]

What about crazy Stupid Love?

[D]

I'm not too much of an ensemble for me.

[A]

I'm also not going to put that in. I am going to put in Blade Runner 24.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Even though it's. Even though it's not his fastball.

[B]

His his.

[A]

Where I believe is his best wheelhouse. I am going to put that performance.

[B]

All right. I'm putting in Fall.

[D]

I mean, he took a punch to the face from Harrison Ford on that film. Like, for real.

[A]

Yeah, he sure did.

[D]

So, like, he gets it for me.

[A]

I'm going to put in the Nice guys.

[B]

Okay, Great movie. Great movie.

[D]

And everybody's pissed. They have not made a sequel yet.

[B]

I would love.

[A]

They're like.

[D]

It would be a slam dunk.

[B]

God damn. Okay, what about Barbie? What about La La Land?

[A]

Dude, I am going to say. I am going to say Barbie. Both of those. I also some. Some of the. I'm going to go back to the early days. Lars and the Real Girl for me.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

We didn't even mention the Ides of March.

[D]

Oh, yeah, the Cooney one.

[A]

Yep. He is fantastic. In the Ides of March.

[B]

Okay. Are we putting that in? Like, I like that more than a fracture. And I love fractures. Yep.

[A]

And I. Dude, Half Nelson and Blue Valentine's so good. But I. I need to stick to my guns. Where his best performances are his wheelhouse. And those movies are not the ones.

[B]

Okay, so what. So we. Do you wanna put. We've named 10. Do you wanna put in La La Land and Crazy Stupid Love.

[A]

They have to be in here.

[B]

Okay. All right.

[A]

So actually not Crazy Stupid Love. For me. I adore Crazy Stupid Love, but I

[B]

don't think it's one of the members of the Titans. He's not in it enough. Right. Even though it's isolated.

[D]

The thing I remember about Crazy Stupid Love was he takes his shirt off. Yeah, I bet. Didn't they like digitally enhance that?

[B]

I think a little bit. But Emma Stone. Don't tell me that that's what I was like. No, he worked really hard on that. But I think they just like did the. Probably just.

[A]

Good lighting, guys.

[D]

Good lighting. This is. I don't want to talk out of school and I won't mention who the actress is, but I was drinking at a bar, Shout Out, Rest in Peace, the Den. And there was a buddy of mine who was a digital effects artist and his entire job for like two months was digitally removing the acne scars from a certain famous actress's face.

[B]

That's awesome.

[D]

And I was like, wow. Really is like, yeah, that's what I do. And I'm like, that kind of shit happens all over the business.

[B]

And then we're like, she's perfect.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I will go on record to say I don't feel that it's necessary. I like when I see human people on camera. I think it's nervous executives, but definitely.

[B]

Okay. Eliminate one of these performances. Ides of March, Hail Mary, Blade Runner, Lars and the Real Girl, Fall Guy, Drive, the Nice Guys, Barbie, the Notebook, the Big Short, La La Land,

[A]

the Notebook. Oh, no,

[D]

Wait, wait, wait. Can I say that if we're gonna.

[A]

What's going on with this fucking harebrained list? What are the ones that are indented? The ones that are in

[B]

these are possible top tens. That's why I flagged those.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And we have 11. We flagged 11.

[A]

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11. Got it. I mean, man, for me, it's probably the Notebook. Like, he's so good in the Notebook. He's great in all of these. But is the Notebook. Is the Notebook a movie that we all absolutely adore and we're boosting his performance, or is it one of his best performances? I think it's the former.

[D]

My only case again against Big Short is that similar to Crazy Stupid Love, it's a little too much of an ensemble cast for me.

[A]

I hear that. I also will say we just watched that recently. He is the star of that movie, and I always forget about it. Yeah, like, you really he.

[D]

Christian Bale in that film?

[A]

Yeah. No, but, dude, like, he narrates the entire movie. Like, you kind of forget that he

[B]

is the main character. I know, but Bale's performance. Bale's performance is probably March. I love that.

[A]

I'm down. Let's lose Ides of March. I'm glad it got mentioned. Let's remove it.

[D]

That's fine.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

This is gonna take way too long.

[B]

Well, no, watch this. Number 10. You want the Notebook?

[A]

Because my pick would be the Notebook of the. Okay, so for, again, those listening in here, we've got La La Land, the Big Short, the Notebook, Barbie, the Nice Guys, Drive Fall Guy, Lars and the Real Girl, and Blade Runner 2049, Project, Hail Mary, and that's it.

[D]

My. Again, My. My problem with Big Short, and it's a great movie, is that it's. It's. It's almost like a. Like, it was so topical when it came out. It feels like. It's almost like a dot. You know when, like, movies, they talk about something historical that just happened, and then it feels like it's, like, dusted.

[A]

Can I give you some homework?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

When's the last time you watched that movie?

[D]

When it came out.

[A]

Dude, I'm begging you. Watch it again. And you're good. You're Going to text me immediately and go, it's great. Holy shit. I forgot how fucking. You know what?

[D]

I'm actually kind of upset because. Because I went to this movie. I used to work at the arclight. Rest in peace.

[A]

Hell yeah. Which one? Like the Dome.

[D]

Well, so I worked at the Dome. Then I transferred to the one in Pasadena because I lived closer. Then I ghosted and quit the job cause I got another job. But I kept my badge. So I would go to the ArcLight in Hollywood, show my badge and get into free movies. And like for four years I did this.

[A]

You killed the Dome?

[C]

Single handedly.

[B]

Why did you stop? What happened?

[D]

What do you mean? Well, I'll explain. I went to see the Big Short, I left the theater and I left my fucking badge there somewhere.

[A]

Are you fucking.

[D]

So that idiot dude. Yeah, that movie destroyed my free movie.

[A]

God damn it.

[D]

So maybe that's why I don't like the Big Short.

[B]

Dude, that is unacceptable. Unacceptable.

[A]

Sorry. ArcLight Decurium Corporation. I'm gonna stand by my pick as the Notebook. Are you guys saying that the Big Short is next or do you think La La Land?

[B]

Maybe La La Land.

[A]

Maybe Drive.

[B]

Maybe La La Land only cause of the not.

[A]

I mean, I'm with you. I love Drive.

[B]

Do you think drive's like one though? Do you have Drive like?

[D]

No, I don't think drive is one, but I would put Drive top three.

[B]

Okay, okay.

[A]

His performances, this movie. Let me tell you, I think you love the movie.

[D]

I do love the movie. But I will tell you this. Before Drive, I always kind of side eyed Gosling and I was. Cause I wasn't that aware, but I was a young man and I was also, you know, he was a Disney kid and I was always kind of like, he's a little bitch. You know, kind of like this guy might be a little bitch. But then I saw Drive and I'm like, mike, he's not a little bitch. He's awesome.

[A]

I think he might be my favorite guy.

[B]

Okay, so we're going Notebook 10 in general.

[A]

I'm not talking actor.

[B]

I think Big Short 9.

[A]

I think he might be my favorite guy.

[B]

And then la la land 8. Or maybe la la land 9.

[D]

I'd put la La. I'm fine with La la land is 8.

[B]

Big short 9. La la land 8. And then maybe Lars.

[A]

Do we all have to agree?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

How are we ever gonna agree when driver says three?

[B]

Well. Cause we're gonna meet in the middle somewhere.

[D]

Somewhere.

[B]

Let's put drive at 5.

[D]

I'm gonna give You a handshake and slit your wrist with a straight razor.

[A]

That's fair.

[B]

Drive is five.

[A]

Boom. Okay. Drive five.

[D]

I'll live with drive five.

[A]

So we need seven and six.

[B]

Yep. I would say maybe Lars. Lars. Maybe Blade Runner too. I actually don't think his performance is like. I think the other ones are more gosling.

[D]

I'd put six on. I'd put seven. Blade Runner.

[B]

Me too.

[A]

Me too. Seven. Blade Runner six. Lars.

[B]

And the Real Girl five drives. And now we have Barbie. The nice guys. Hail Mary and fall guy.

[A]

I'm gonna go fall guy next.

[B]

Ev.

[A]

Actually, I would probably. Personally, I would go Barbie next.

[D]

Oh, no, no. I'm sorry. Barbie is one or two guys.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So let's go.

[D]

He revolutionized fall guy 4.

[A]

It's tough to be the white guy. When you say that Ken was the best part of Barbie.

[D]

He is.

[A]

He wasn't the best, but he's close. It's pretty close.

[D]

Look, I completely agree with what you just said, but it is undeniable how good he was in that.

[A]

Oh, dude. He is literally showstopping. It's unbelievable.

[D]

This is a common thing with movies. Usually the lead character is not always the most enjoyable person. It's the side characters that get the most fun. So that just happened to be the way it broke down.

[A]

Okay, so we have top three.

[B]

Is Barbie. Nice guys, Hail Mary. What order do you want?

[A]

Is nice guys or fall guy better?

[B]

Ooh, I like. Ah, man. Tough one. Both.

[A]

He's.

[C]

So

[A]

I'm gonna say I like where we're at. Fall Guy 4. This is what I would do. I would personally go fall guy 4. I would go Barbie 3. The nice guys 2. Hail Mary 1.

[B]

But. But we can only go 2. We gotta meet at 2 in the middle on Barbie.

[A]

And I'm happy to go Barbie 2.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. So let's go. The nice guys 3 is Hail Mary 1. Unbelievable showing by the nice guys.

[B]

Agree. I thought we were gonna go nice guys one.

[A]

Really good.

[B]

I could go nice guys one.

[A]

No, I genuinely and can't smell 100% recency bias. And I just went on this whole diatribe about how I think people are over. I think that this is objectively Ryan Gosling's best role.

[B]

Can you live with Hail Mary 1?

[D]

I will say with the caveat that this is very much happening today after the. Like you said. I think time will tell whether this be Hail Mary becomes like, a seminal part of his uvoir. I do think that it is a great return to form because as I Said I think Fall Guy didn't do well because we were a little bit like, we've had enough. Like, Ken was great. We need a break.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Okay. And so, yeah, I. I'm with you actually agree with that. So we go The Ryan Gosling's 10 best roles of all time, according to us and what we agree on. The Notebook 10. The Big Short 9. La La Land 8. Blade Runner 2049 7. Lars and the Real Girl 6. Drive 5. Fall Guy 4. The Nice Guys 3. Barbie 2. Hail Mary 1. Bang.

[A]

All this to say, I know there's gonna be a lot of people who love movies like Half Nelson and Blue Valentine and so do I. This is all in the context of us saying this type of role is his wheelhouse.

[B]

Yes. Which I can't believe.

[A]

Crazy. And credit to credit to Drive and Blade Runner for sneaking in the top 10 for battling so good.

[C]

Well.

[D]

And I'll say make an appeal. Ryan, if you're watching, we'd love to have you on the show.

[A]

He's a Canadian.

[D]

We know you're Canadian. You probably like hockey.

[A]

He just went on fucking the New Heights, which I love. Love those boys. Love that. Love your show.

[C]

Love.

[A]

Love you guys. Love your show. But we're the hockey show. Yep. We're the hockey show in Hollywood.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

We have mutual interests.

[D]

Absolutely.

[A]

Ryan, get your ass on here. It'll be great.

[B]

Why not?

[A]

Okay. Let's close this shit out with a nice game of connective Tissue. I have the game. For those who don't know, this is a game where we connect two players names we once did. Brandon Carlogin Couture. You can see how their names connect. I'm going to give the bio of two players and see if Chris can get it. Christopher, are you ready?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Here is our. I literally forget who I have, but hopefully I'll get it with the. I didn't write it down, but I think I'm going to know it. No, I know it. Ready?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Our connective tissue, a Massachusetts. Let me try that again. A Massachusetts native who stayed local and became an all Hockey east player with the BCE Eagles and then rolled to success into his professional career winning a gold medal. He would then.

[B]

Yeah, thank you.

[A]

He would then go on to be traded from the Flames to the Toronto Maple Leafs where he would be named the 18th captain in team history just before marrying a lovely Hollywood actress.

[B]

Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay.

[A]

So again, while Chris thinks. Here's our connective tissue. A Massachusetts. Having trouble with Massachusetts.

[B]

Yeah, you are.

[A]

You are a Massachusetts native who stayed Local and became all Hockey east with the BC Eagles and then rolled his success into his professional career, winning a gold medal. He then would go on to be traded from the Flames to the Toronto Maple Leafs, where he would be named the 18th captain in team history, just before marrying a lovely Hollywood actress.

[B]

Okay, I'm trying to think who played on B.C. that won a gold medal. And. Did you say Olympic gold medal or. That's up for me to decide.

[A]

It is an Olympic gold medal.

[B]

Okay, so who went to BC on that team? Okay, I'm just trying to think of the lines.

[A]

This is a. This was a really easy one, but a really fun one.

[B]

Oh, I think I got it. Well, I think. I think the second one is Dion Phaneuf.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And who was the B.C. kid on that team?

[A]

This is embarrassing for you.

[B]

I think it would all the BU boys. That's what's rattling. Oh, boy.

[A]

Well, he's not the only one. But.

[B]

But that. But that's right, Right. Matt Bull. Dion Phaneuf.

[A]

Yeah. Good job, Matt Thol. Dion Phaneuf.

[B]

That's great. That's a great one, Dan.

[A]

That is good stuff. Well done. One of your quickest ones.

[B]

Yeah, well, only because I got Dion and then you gave me good hits. Yeah. You know, because I was like. Once I was shrunk to the USA team pool, I was like, okay, Beautiful stuff.

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