No Seriously This Year Is The Cane's Year And They Might Never Lose Again

Summary

Empty Netters Podcast
Episode: "No Seriously, This Year Is The Cane's Year And They Might Never Lose Again"
Date: May 5, 2026

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Episode Overview

On this episode, the Empty Netters crew dives into a wild night of NHL playoff analysis, a Toronto Maple Leafs hiring bombshell, and memorable moments on and off the ice. The hosts bring their irreverent, brotherly energy to the games between the Canes and Flyers, Ducks and Golden Knights, and dissect the most shocking NHL management hire in years. The banter is fast, passionate, and heavy on hockey fandom, with plenty of laughs and deep-dive analysis.

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Main Discussion & Key Insights

1. Opening Banter & Bracket Challenge

• The hosts revisit the latest Empty Netters Bracket Challenge, lamenting busted brackets and pumping up the "second chance" league.
• [02:29] B: "My bracket is humiliating. I missed everybody in the east, basically. I missed half the West… So get in there, fill out your bracket again in your second chance, and get it cracking."
• Competitive spirit and humor set the energy for the episode.

2. Toronto Maple Leafs' Shocking Hire – John Chayka as GM

• The podcast dives into the news that John Chayka is the Leafs’ new GM, which the hosts call “the craziest hire of all time.”
• Immediate discussion on how bizarre, risky, and divisive this move is. The hosts compare Chayka to Ben Wyatt from "Parks and Rec" and reference his lack of NHL success and controversy in Arizona.
• [07:27] A: "He’s literally Ben Wyatt in Partridge… being named mayor at 18 years old, he tried to make Ice Town in Arizona. Then he becomes an Ice Clown."
• Pointed commentary on Chayka’s history of lying, being banned for illegal scouting, and now owning an array of Wendy's and Tim Hortons.
• Speculation about the Leafs' motives and messy press conference, including the mysterious involvement of club legend Mats Sundin.
• [10:39] A: "He hasn't worked in hockey since he got kicked out of the fucking league. And now he gets this job."
• Steve Simmons’ press-conference question quoted at length -- relaying that 19 out of 20 NHL execs called Chayka a “con artist, liar, salesman” (11:15).
• [11:34] B: "He asked that in front of the man. It’d be one thing to ask the CEO… but Chayka is sitting right there. It is so insanely, so insanely awkward."
• The hosts riff on whether this is a deliberate “Producers”-style tank job, a "Major League"/"Ted Lasso"-esque locker room uniter, or just ownership gone off the rails.

3. Carolina Hurricanes vs. Philadelphia Flyers – Game Analysis

• Immediate playoff breakdowns after ad break.
• Flyers went up 2-0 quickly, but the Canes remain undefeated.
• Hosts discuss Flyers’ inability to score in the first period before this game, and the Canes never having trailed in the playoffs.
• [19:51] B: On pre-game energy: "I was ready to run through a brick wall."
• Praise for Jackson Blake ("that kid is such a honey badger," [20:28] A), Nikolaj Ehlers’ impact, and the Canes finally getting a top-end star to push them over the edge.
• Extended riff on the Flyers’ captain, Couturier, as a veteran warrior who “knows where the bodies are buried,” drawing parallels to NBA players like Marcus Smart ([22:29] B).
• Flyers dominated stretches in overtime, but ultimately Taylor Hall seals it for Carolina.
  • [25:53] A: "Great play. Great dish to Jarvey. Great shot and goal. And you could see it in Jarvi's celly…like, he wanted it."
• The group debates whether this is a gutting loss for Philly or something they can bounce back from.
• Discussion of power plays: Both teams had poor conversion rates, leading to frustration.
• [31:52] B: "Philly got, got kind of dog walked in game one… but in this game went, we’re ready now."
• Penalty controversies and a hilarious break analyzing the goalie paddling a player with his stick, complete with BDSM jokes.
  • [32:12] C: "He’s like BDSM paddling him on the bum."

4. Beer Skates and Hockey Gimmicks

• Side discussion about the Carolina “beer skate” cup--a massive hit at the rink that immediately sold out.
• [35:17] B: "So anyway, the beer skates, dude, go on sale, and they literally sell out. Immediately they are gone."
• Jokes about NHL gimmicks and possible custom drinkware for every team.
  • [39:32] C: "We’re talking a bunch of beer shot up my dad."
  • [39:45] A: "I love it. Canes are sitting pretty. Flyers. Great fight. And now we come back. Now you go back to Philly."

5. Vegas Golden Knights vs. Anaheim Ducks – Game Analysis

• Focus on the importance of Mitch Marner for Vegas—“the investment paying off,” as he finally looks like the star they traded for.
  • [45:38] A:] "Now the way Mitch is playing, they're going, and this is exactly why we did it."
• Howden gets major kudos for producing around the net, compared to Zach Hyman.
• Ducks’ first period praised for how they handled the road game ("Ducks were flying").
• Goaltending duel: Dostal (ANA) and Hart (VGK) each delivered, with Hart especially showing flashes of Conn Smythe potential.
  • [49:04] B: "…early Utah I thought, holy shit, maybe he is. And then that tapered…"
• Highlight reel play by Leo Carlsson, but Lambeau failed to finish—hosts rave about the set-up but admit Ducks left some on the table.
• Extended breakdown of the game's controversial icing non-call that led to the Vegas winning goal.
• Both agree, ultimately, blaming refs is “bitch made behavior” and the onus is on teams to respond on the ice.
  • [57:37] B: "I am not sitting here going, that is why they won. It’s bullshit. …Complaining about the refs is the most bitch made behavior in the world."
• Ducks should use the perceived injustice as fire for the next game.

6. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [02:08] A (after harsh social media critique): "I want that rat prick loser whoever made that comment to slide into our DMs and apologize. You fucking pig."
• [10:20] A (on Leafs hire): "God knows why he's been brought in as the fucking Luigi to this dickhead's Mario."
• [32:20] C (about Vladar paddling Stankeven): "He's like BDSM paddling him on the bum."
• [35:38] B (on beer skates): "No one can fucking drink out of this because you can't put it down."
• [45:08] B (on Marner): "If Mitch Marner isn’t special, isn’t giving you a special platform, then Vegas is just the Vegas that has existed and that won a cup in… 2023."
• [58:49] B (on using adversity): “…When you lose a playoff game, I actually love when you can get pissed about something where you feel like you got jobbed a little bit.”
• [61:07] B (on icing controversy): “They say, and again, I love Dave, but Dave. And presumably the refs are saying Jack would beat him. He literally doesn't. …We don't have to have a hypothetical here. They didn't call it icing. So who beat who got to the puck first?"

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Important Timestamps

| Time | Segment/Topic | |-----------|-------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:00 | Opening banter, post-game energy, bracket challenge | | 04:34 | Breaking the John Chayka to Toronto news | | 11:15 | Steve Simmons' press conference question about Chayka | | 17:44 | Begin Canes-Flyers playoff breakdown | | 25:53 | Jarvis goal & analysis | | 31:52 | Flyers' powerplay woes, penalties, and game summary | | 32:12 | Vladar spanking Stankeven (“BDSM paddling”) | | 35:07 | Beer skate cup at the Canes rink | | 44:24 | Ducks-Golden Knights game starts, Marner analysis | | 49:04 | Carter Hart’s performance shines | | 53:24 | Icing controversy in Ducks-Vegas game | | 58:49 | Using adversity/loss to fire up Ducks |

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Tone & Style

• Casual, unfiltered, and (very) explicit—a blend of diehard knowledge, beer league banter, and meme-heavy commentary.
• Hosts riff with recurring inside jokes, references to movies ("Major League," "Producers," "Ted Lasso"), and hockey lore.
• Combination of serious analysis and wild, entertaining tangents.

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Takeaway

This episode’s wild ride covers the wild state of the NHL playoffs—uplifting breakdowns of the Canes’ and Flyers’ shifts, an existential look at the Leafs' front office, the oddball nature of hockey culture (from custom beer skates to press conference roasts), and honest opinions about officiating.
Fans will come away with better insights into why the Canes are rolling, why Ducks fans are fired up (even when they lose), and how a management hire can be as dramatic as a playoff Game 7.

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Until next time: Skate hard.

Transcript

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Welcome to the Empty Netters podcast.

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Can you believe what this has become? There's a full 48 hours where I felt like I was like literally Superman.

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Jumbo loves playing Fortnite. So does he.

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Gets on the sticks.

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Did TR show you the sauna cycle or was that already.

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No, I invented that. Almost a year now that I haven't taken a body check. That's kind of nice.

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So we are back. We are horned up and we are going deep.

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Finished tonight with some chicken fingers and a few Guinnesses. Ran into you guys.

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And that's where this pod came to life. Ice is ready. And we're back with another episode of the Empty Netters podcast, brought to you by BetMGM. I'm your host, Dan Powers. Dr. Watkins is on the sticks and CP still has a broken hand,

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as always.

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We got some great action tonight.

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Netters After Dark.

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We had a beautiful overtime game that almost went to double overtime. Yep, we almost had another overtime game.

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I thought we were going to.

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But then. But then, interesting stuff. And the empty net bet paid out.

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He's home.

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We've got Kane's Flyers, game two. And we've got Duck's Golden Knights, game one. And we've got the most shocking hire in recent memory of the NHL. And that's where we're going to start.

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Well, first. Dude, also, this is a. This is even first before first, the somebody on the Cam York video when he threw his stick, somebody was like in the comments was like, do. Because I guess this. The crowd gave it to this old guy and it was really cool.

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Oh, yeah, it was a whole cool thing. And those. Those guys were in the comment section on our clip. Okay. They were like, it was me. I got the stick.

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Well, one of the. Someone in the comments was like, these fucking guys. Do two seconds of research before you run your mouths about what will happen to a stick. And then somebody was like, pretty sure they record at like midnight. Like the game had just ended. No one knew. And I was like, yeah, but I've.

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Yeah, the game had literally ended about 30 minutes before.

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I'm sorry that you were in the studio till 1am trying to give you content. As soon as you wake up and you're mad. I already know who has the fucking stick.

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I want that rat prick loser whoever made that comment to slide into our DMs and apologize. You fucking pig.

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Unbelievable.

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What a fucking. That is just a classic.

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I haven't slept in weeks.

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Classic Instagram fingers. Some fucking dumb bitch sitting at home home being like, do some research while he's stuffing his face with Twinkies. Fuck you, pussy. Jesus Christ.

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Anyway, more importantly, actually, first, you're listening to this on Tuesday, which means today, yes, is the last day that you can get in to the bracket challenge. Empty Netters League, second chances. Because, listen, I posted a video for you yesterday. My bracket is destroyed. We. We have the. It's our Netters league, but we each made a bracket. My bracket is humiliating. I missed everybody in the east, basically. I missed half the West. I had the Bruins winning it. They're dead. Minnesota, I had going from the west, so at least they're still in it. But they could get rinsed by the AVs in two seconds. Point being, I am the perfect example. My bracket is boosted. So get in on that second chance. How's yours doing?

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Pretty good.

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Okay, so you're fine.

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I'm being honest. I'm being fine. But I'm fine. But I lost a few. And here's the thing. I want a perfect bracket.

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Yeah.

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So now's the time to get back in there. It's unbelievable, dude. We've got the Canes. We got the Sabres. We got the Habs. We got the Flyers.

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Yep.

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No.

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The Flyers. No. Let's go.

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The Canes haven't lost a game. We got Vegas out here buzzing, winning their first game here. We got Colorado, undefeated, Insane. We got the Wild looking to get scrappy. And we got the Duckies looking to make some noise. It is time to get back in there and fill out your bracket again. Because if it busted, you got another chance to fix it. So get in there, fill out your bracket again in your second chance, and get it cracking.

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You get some sick prizes. Don't you want prizes? Do the second chances. Come on. Give yourself a break. Everyone deserves a second chance. Give yourself a break.

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Everyone deserves a second chance. So go get that bracket filled out again.

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Put it up when we post it. Put the. Hey, the links right here. And it means it's in the description, too.

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Do it again.

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The link. The link is right.

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Link's right here.

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Link's right here.

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Come on.

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You want the link?

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It's right here.

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Just click it in the description. Fill out your second chances. Empty Netters League, baby.

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And don't wait. It's free. Yeah, get in there. Get it done today. Hit pause right now in the episode, fill out your bracket and then come on back.

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And then let's finish.

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Yeah, go get it done.

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Okay, perfect. Now, first.

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Now let's talk about the craziest hire of all time.

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Dude, normally we get Right into the games. There's not. No news other than playoffs. All you guys want is playoffs, whatever. But something happened today that was just what felt newsworthy enough to bring up.

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Yes.

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The Leaves. The Toronto Maple Leaves.

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Why do you always have to do this?

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Because that's what I always call it.

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Leaves.

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The leaves.

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Yeah.

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Like, make, like a tree and leave.

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Yes. Yeah, exactly.

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It drives me nuts.

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The Toronto Maple Leaves.

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Leafs.

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It's the Leafs.

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There's an F in there.

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The Toronto Maple Leaves.

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This is classic spin zone. Chris is trying to make it seem less basic what the Leafs have done here by just doing a little distraction. Yeah, but I'm not going to let them.

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They unveil or they didn't unveil. It was already announced. Right. But the. They had the press conference for the two people who are. It was weird because they wouldn't even really say titles. Like, did you watch the whole thing? I actually saw the whole thing.

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Yeah.

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It was like, what do you. What do these two do? And they were like, well, you know,

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Kelly didn't even explain.

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I know. He was like, they just. They, they. They're going to work together.

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Yeah. I was like, they're going to work in tandem.

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Who is making decisions?

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I never like it when that happens.

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Oh, it's so bad when it's like the op.

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The GM of operations or whatever.

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Fuck it.

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Come on.

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And it's crazy, too. And one of them is Matt Sandine, who's a fucking leg, like, franchise legend. So I'm like, is he. Are you just not saying he's in charge? Because if this goes bad, you don't want to chop the head off your franchise legend. Yeah, maybe.

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Yeah.

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I can still sell jerseys with his name on it.

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The higher. Do you want to talk about the higher itself first, or do you want to talk about the question first?

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I want to talk about the higher itself.

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Okay. The.

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The news is the Toronto Maple Leafs have named John chaika their new GM. They apparently interviewed 27 people.

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Yep.

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And came down to this decision. For those who are unaware, John Chaika, I believe, at 26 years old, was hired as the Coyotes GM to zero success.

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It's. It's Ice Town. Dan. He's. He's literally Ben Wyatt.

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Literally Ben Wyatt in. In Partridge, Minnesota, being named mayor. At 18 years old, he tried to

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make Ice Town in Arizona. And they were like, I think. Then he got to quit.

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He becomes an Ice Clown.

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John Chaika, Ice Clown of Ice Town.

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John Chaika and Ben Wyatt are the same person, dude. Finkel is Einhorn Chaika is Wyatt. It is so insane that that happened in general, but no success in Arizona. You know, they didn't maybe have the best roster or the best resources, whatever. Whatever. But in his time there, he was caught lying to his owner and scheming there. He then got booted by the NHL with years left on his contract because he held an illegal scouting practice for prospects or something like that and was banned from the NHL. Has since been reinstated.

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But then he became a businessman.

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Yeah, the guy owns like fucking 50 Wendy's and a bunch. Bunch of Tim Hortons. And he's just like a grifter. He's just like walking around with a bandit mask around.

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We don't know that he.

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I don't know that.

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We don't know. Allegedly in his businesses.

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Allegedly.

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No, Dan. He was certainly grifting as a GM of the Coyotes, but his. He might just be an upstanding Wendy's owner. Legitimately. I don't know.

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Brother. Have you been to a Wendy's lately?

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Hey, Fresh never frozen up in there, I bet. I bet every square patty's frozen at John's. At John Chaika's wedding.

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If you think that John Chaika isn't freezing his patties, I bet every single square patty. You're out of your mind.

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And that's a tragedy.

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The frosty machine is never working.

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Dude, the burgers are up in there. That's where the burgers are, dude. He reaches into the fucking frosty machine, takes the burgers. Yeah, spunked up.

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It's true. So he has now been hired.

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So the Leafs go. We'll take it.

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Leafs go. You know what sounds like a perfect second chance for this guy? The GM job in Toronto.

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No pressure here.

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That's what they thought. And what I think is so fascinating about this, so fascinating. I need to know what member of this ownership group went. This surely won't have a terrible reaction.

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Nathan Fielder. I have a feeling Nathan Fielder's behind this.

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Who in that world, in that organization went.

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You know what?

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I think this is gonna go over pretty well. Who thought?

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No one. But. But. But clearly somebody. But I just can't fathom how. My only thought, Dan, is maybe it's so not insane. Cause that make. Well, it is insane. But that's not even what I mean. Maybe it's so off the wall that that's their. The thinking is that's the only thing that can work in Toronto. We can't hire just another GM that's been kicking around the league like we always bitch about by the way when we go, oh, this guy didn't do it at this team, so let's bring him here. Which I guess he has a horrible track record in Arizona, but maybe he was just too inexperienced. Now he's learned from his mistakes. Yeah. And he's the man crazy enough to pull this off.

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I mean, here we are, man. It's just seeing the way that everyone in the hockey world has responded has been alarming and eye opening. Yep. And, I mean, Yan's was like, this might go down as the worst hire in the history of the NHL. That's not great to hear. The Leafs fans are losing their shit. And it's crazy because you bring back a club legend like Sundin and no one cares. That's how bad. That's how poorly this has been received, that no one is being like this. Well, Sundin's here. In fact, people are being like this. And Sundin has. Has come in here along with this. God knows why. God knows why he's been brought in as the fucking Luigi to this dickhead's Mario.

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Dude.

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They have to see if this can work. And it's not even being received in a positive light. It's not. It's. No one's mad about Sundine, but they're not relishing in the return. They're just being like, what is happening?

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That's.

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That is terrible.

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They have someone. Someone has pictures of Sundin fucking a goat, which is why he's been forced to take this job.

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Truly. What. How else could you explain it? And I mean, Listen, this guy's 36 years old. He hasn't worked in hockey since he got kicked out of the fucking league. And now he gets this job. And then the press conference happens.

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At the press conference. At the press conference, Steve Simmons asks a question. Dude, it's like question four in a packed room. Everyone's all hunky dory.

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Steve, by the way, who is a notorious shitster. Yep. Like, people dislike Steve. And he came in here and threw a fucking haymaker, dude.

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He goes, question for Pelli. I have spoken to 20 big names in the NHL executive circle. And he goes on to be like people that we know. Everyone whose names we know, and only one of them was supportive of this hire. The other 19 thought it was a sham. To be perfectly honest. Words were used like con artist, liar, salesman.

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Dude.

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He asked that in front of the man. It'd be one thing to ask the CEO that about the guy, but Chaika is sitting right there. It is so insane, so insanely awkward. I barely.

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No trust.

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Yeah, liar.

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Like, he's just like, dude, that's me.

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I barely blame Pelly for the quick response and dismiss because people were like, what do you say? That's it. But I'm like, what do you want him to say with this guy sitting right there?

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This has so much stink of. Did you say, what the fuck ass fuck of a bum fuck, shithole town is this? Did you say that? Like, that is being what is being said about this guy. And Cindin is sitting there like this.

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Oh, dude, you're right. Like, imagine him. And Petal's answer was, we've talked. He's like, I did deep due diligence. You must have talked to people. I didn't. I must have talked to different people than you. Thorough process. We're really happy where we landed. But even if you did, Dan, let's just live in a world for one second where peli talked to 20 people of his own, and every single one of them said, he's a legend. He's the best hire you could ever get. Wouldn't it be alarming to you that if we're gonna take Steve at his word that 19 other people, granted, you didn't talk to them, but 19 other people are like, he is a literal snake oil salesman liar.

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That's what I'm saying, man. It's like, you know, there are people out there who do things to reveal themselves as rat, scumbag, loser. And we all know who they are. Yeah. And you then talk to anyone you care about or trust in the world and they go, oh, yeah, everyone hates those guys. Or everyone hates this person because they're fucking rats and losers. And when you ask tons of people and they're like this, oh, yeah, I mean, you obviously don't hire that person. Now, again, I don't know, John.

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Check.

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Yeah, I, I. So this is. I'm speaking strictly from hearsay of what is being reported by everyone. So I am like, yeah, I don't know, like, maybe go. And again, they met with him as well as 26 other people. And they were like, we're hiring this guy, so he must have blown their dicks off in this meeting, maybe literally,

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because otherwise, how did he get hired?

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So as someone who does not know this person, I would hope that in said individual meeting, it was the most miraculous meeting you've ever had in your life. Otherwise, I am shocked by this.

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Well, have you guys ever seen the that movie, the Producers?

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Yes.

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So, you know, the idea is, like, you could get more money with A complete bomb of a show than a hit. Maybe the people that own the Maple Leafs were like, we need to really tank.

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Yeah.

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Like GM level tank.

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Do you think we're seeing a major league slash Ted Lasso playing out in real life?

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Okay.

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Sabotage. Sabotage.

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Yeah. This is something interesting. And it's going to bring the team together in a way that it never has before. That's how all those movies and shows go. The team comes together.

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Kelly watched Major League about a month ago.

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Yeah, this movie's incredible.

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And he went, wow, this movie's great. And then he was talking to someone about it, and someone was like, did you watch Ted Lasso? Because the beginning of Ted Lasso is very similar. And he was like, really? And then he binged Ted Lasso and he went, oh, my God.

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Wow.

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Maybe the one thing that could really rally the troops together is this. So he went out and he hired John.

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Yep.

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And he believes that now Berube, who apparently they're keeping because he has $6 million left on his deal. And the team are all gonna rally together.

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Yeah.

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And they're gonna fight. They're gonna fight despite John. In.

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In my opinion, this is.

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The Toronto Maple Leafs are pulling a major league. Major league in Ted Lasso. Yeah.

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In my opinion. Officially producers.

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If you're a theater kid.

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Yeah. Literally only two scenarios. Scenario one is this. It's a. It's a producers major league situation. Lasso situation. Option two is in the meeting, he went like. He basically just had magic beans and went, I'm keeping Matthews and I'm getting McDavid, and I'm bringing in Brady. Like, you know, he just. He sold them this bill of goods, and they were like, that sounds incredible.

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Can you do that?

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And he was like, of course I can. And then they went, how? And everyone else, when they asked in the interview, they said, can we keep Matthews and get McDavid? Everyone else interviewed went, no. And then they were, surely not. You're fired. You're fired. You're fired. This guy can get us everybody. Yeah.

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He promised him everything.

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Yep. And then now we'll see. We'll see what he can deliver on. Yeah.

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Again, it is. This is the only thing that makes sense to me. So. Pretty cool.

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Pretty cool. Pretty cool.

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Quick ad break.

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Two quick goals in a row for the Flyers, but the Canes are still undefeated.

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And that was fun because the Flyers. The Flyers haven't scored. I saw it and I knew this. I think I just forgot. And maybe. I don't even know if you guys did either, Ev. But the Flyers hadn't scored in the first period all playoffs, which is so funny.

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I did notice that.

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Yeah.

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And it gave me hope.

[B]

I feel like every game was fucking 00 pretty much.

[C]

But like, there might have been one or two.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So the Flyers hadn't scored in the first period all playoffs. Amazing. Kanes hadn't trailed playoffs, which is amazing. So this was really exciting. But you know why? I was fired up. And you know, you know why. But before they. Even before the game, the puck even dropped. And I actually love playoff coverage because they send you to the rink a little early regular season. It's kind of like, boom, go. But playoffs, they let you watch the anthem and they let you watch the antics and whatever celebrities or friends and friends of the program they got there. And what do you know, it did. Doing the fucking Parmesan cheese grater. Storm surge. Boom. The good old Canadian boys up in the building losing their fucking shit. And I actually loved it because with, you know, we dealt with this when we. When we took flight, Dan, when we were flying. Van True. There's only one. There's only one take flight, bud. And with two of us, we were able to hit it together. But we did have to plan. We had to make a strategy.

[A]

We sure did.

[B]

It's not easy. You could jam a finger. You could jam a finger trying to take flight with a two teamer. The good old Canadian boys, they got five, five. Six of them. Six of them, right? So you can't. Six man a fucking cheese grater.

[A]

No, that is too difficult.

[B]

And it's too. The thing. You know how it goes. It warms up, it gets louder. It's like an assault bike. Like, it gets louder as it goes. So you couldn't have passed it. You couldn't have been like, you take a spin. You take a spin. All set. That's enough cheese. So they just, you know, someone took the reins and then the other was on the other boys to just be going apeshit. And they went apeshit. And that's exactly how you get a playoff crowd going. Jarvey's boys. I mean, I was ready to run through a brick wall.

[A]

Tried and true. Every time I see the boys, I get fired up because I'm like, yes, look at the fellas. I thought it was super important, by the way, how many breakaways were there in this game?

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

I thought it was super important that the Canes got that one goal in the first.

[B]

Yes, it was.

[A]

It was a sick goal, too.

[B]

Which one was it again? Ehlers. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[A]

And we were told by a friend to make sure to talk about one Jackson Blake in this game. And like, that pass by Jackson Blake

[B]

was putrid, was excellent. And I.

[A]

And he's just. That kid is such a honey badger.

[B]

Yes, it's. I. I said. I talk about Dennis all the time. We're talking about Canes because he's my Canes guy. But I said to Dennis last year, because he, remember, he loved Jack Drury. And I'm sure he still does love Jack. Oh, yeah, he loved Jack Durie on the Canes. And I said to him, I go, who. Who is filling the Jack Drury sized hole in your heart these days? And tell me why. It's Jackson Blake. And he was like, no, I love. I love Jackson Blake, but. And I forget who else. He said there was someone else he really liked. But I'm telling you, dude, it's It's. It's. It's Jackson Blake. It's always been Jackson Blake. It always will be Jackson Blake. He does everything.

[A]

Two goals, six assists, eight points, plus six in six games in these playoffs so far. And he's. He does everything.

[B]

I mean, that line is fucking numb.

[A]

He's all over the place. The kid's a fucking weapon.

[B]

I didn't like. Well, actually, I'll slow it down. Ehlers goal. Great, because I wrote down in my notes, Dare I say.

[A]

Dare I go out on a limb

[B]

maybe and say that Ehlers, literally Nikolai Ehlers, is the difference maker between past Kane's failures and Kane's success.

[A]

You may dare, because people gonna allow it.

[B]

They don't have a superstar. And listen, Nick, I love you. I'm not sitting here going, ehlers is a super superstar in this league. And he's the guy that splashes across your headlines and you go, oh, my God, the Canes are winning the cup now. But I think he might be enough of a star that this was a piece that they didn't have. And now they have him. And now they have him, Dan. And now they did their elite campaign. He booked it. And then now here we go.

[A]

Dare I again? I just said I'll allow it.

[B]

Allow it. So that was huge after the second Philly goal. Yeah, and shout out to Couturier too. Cause he's having a hell of a fucking playoff.

[A]

Talking about being everywhere. He's having a hell of a playoff and just doing everything, which is sick.

[B]

Good for him, dude.

[A]

That's why you're the captain.

[B]

Cause he's fucking seen some shit, Dan. You know, when there's somebody. I actually. I always felt horrific for Marcus Smart

[A]

because he went through hell.

[B]

He went through hell. And then he got booted. And the Celtics won the title even though they're frauds and they should never have even won that title. But anyway, I digress. Couturier has seen some shit. He knows where the bodies are. He knows where the bodies are buried in the Flyers organization. And for him to just still be here putting in playoff goals gets me going. Gets me going in a big way. After that goal through, I would say the halfway point of the game, not, you know, just like 10 minutes left in the second period. The shots were already up to 218 Carolina. And I thought to myself, damn, this is not good. Flyers got a hot start, great bounce, power play, goal. But then it was. It just felt like, Carolina, Carolina, Carolina. Here we go again. They are a wagon. Yep. Game One, I thought the Flyers were better in the third. Now maybe you go that Carolina wasn't trying that hard, whatever. But I just thought the Philadelphia Flyers made Carolina play more their game in the third period of game one. Maybe irrelevant, but whatever. As this game went too, I thought the Flyers did the same thing. Never more so than in overtime. They were shit kicking Carolina in overtime. Legitimately.

[A]

That is the only time in this game when they were playing. I include when they scored two goals in the first period. Carolina beat the shit out of them in the first period. They beat the shit out of them in the second period. They beat the shit out of them in the third period. The only time the Flyers were controlling play in this game was periods of overtime. And they had strong periods where they had flurries of shots, which is why they hammered them in shot total. Yeah, and Freddy came up big. But again, didn't think there was a ton. Actually, there was a. There was one clear breakaway. Maybe tk.

[B]

Dude, TK had a penalty shot.

[A]

I think there was two clear breakaways then. But other than that, I felt that there weren't very many, like, scoring, scoring chances. But the Flyers completely controlled play in overtime in flurries.

[B]

And I will slightly disagree only in that I think there were. There was a. Like, Mitchkoff had one that broke Keandra Miller's stick. Someone else had one.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

That I was like, these go in like, go score. Holy fuck. And credit to Key and to Freddie and to everybody. But there were legitimate chances. Even some of these, Dan, which maybe is. You don't call a chance, which I accept why. But there were a few, like, more. Porter had one. He's on the left side because he's a right shot that he snapped back door that just kind of went between two Flyers. But if either of them had got their stick on it and it's a wide open net, so it probably doesn't even register as a scoring chance in the. In whoever's keeping that book because it's just a missed pass. But to me, those are scoring chances because, oh, my God, if that puck just lands on a stick, it's in the net. And the Flyers had two of those, probably two in overtime. So they are going to be. They are pissed. They are feeling shitty right now with not being able to pull that one out.

[A]

Yeah, 100% agree. I think I want to talk about Jarvey.

[B]

Goal. Yep. Me too.

[A]

Because I got. It feels so good to be right. Got asked about Jarvey. I think I mentioned it this morning. Got asked about Jarvey on the hockey talk. And I was like, this is not the guy you have to worry about. He's a little banged up, but Jarvey will get going.

[B]

Boom.

[A]

Great play. Great dish to Jarvey. Great shot and goal. And you could see it in Jarvi Selley, obviously, great cutting up to the boys, but, like, he wanted it. He was like, there we go, finally. But then also, it's like it didn't feel like. I don't want to say a monkey off the back moment, but it was like he was just like that. Yeah. I knew it was coming. And that's why I say that's not a guy you worry about.

[B]

Yeah. So, you know, that was awesome. And sick to do it when his boys are there.

[C]

Sorry.

[B]

That's all right. Sick to do it when his boy always.

[A]

Always sick to do it.

[B]

And also jumping ahead, but sick because we've experienced this in Utah and nearly in Tampa. It sucks so much when you're the. You're the guest of honor. And then the team loses. You know, the good old Canadian boys are here.

[A]

Let's go.

[B]

We haven't lost in the playoffs yet. Now the Canadian boys are doing the cheese grater. And it's like this. Boom, boom, Flyers, two, nothing. You're going to get rinsed by five, and you're like. And Seth didn't score. And you're like, fuck. So to have them pull that out and Seth score, it's like we're invited back. Boys.

[A]

I feel like we stroked off Halsey so much this morning. Yep. So I don't know how much more we need to do it. I don't need to repeat all the stuff that we said. Love a grimy goal like that.

[B]

From his knees.

[A]

From his knees. Just digging it in, making sure it goes. I more so want to talk about. Do you think. Is that gutting for Philly?

[B]

Okay, so first on the goal itself.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Watch the slow mo. And Ray Ferrawa said this. If you're watching the broadcast, you heard it. But on the slow mo replay, it's actually amazing because Halsey rips that shot, falls to his knees and is sliding across the crease. And Vladar, who legitimately, I wanted to win today just for the Star wars thing. I just thought that would be so fun. It would have been great. I know Vladar is going to cover it. And a Carolina stick gets one eighth of an inch of the puck and just knocks it out of the mousetrap. I know. And it's Jackson Blake, which is why the friend who brought it up Said not only does he have stick mitts, but he has that jam. That's the play where he's just, just fucking caused chaos, dude. So that was unreal. Watch the slow mo of that goal again if you haven't seen it. Amazing. For me, Dan, maybe I am too much of a fucking sucker. I'm realizing this through these playoffs. I'm a sucker. But the I can find a win in anything, dude. I'm gonna steal Bugsy's quote. Everybody's fine till you're fucking out, dude. Everyone's gonna be okay till you're literally on the golf course. So if I'm Philly, we're not out. Which by Bugsy's definition means we're fine.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I, and obviously there's the like no. 1 playoff series hasn't even started till the home team loses. Right. Which I kind of adhere to. But my point is Philly got, got kind of dog walked in game one right. Where he was only three nothing. But you were like, man, they were, they were a bit all over us. Damn, Carolina's good. Halsey even said it in one of his those like mid game interviews they do now. But he was like, they're way quicker today. They're quicker on battles, whatever. I think Philly in game one went, holy shit, Carolina's fast. Which they are.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then in this game went, we're ready now.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And they are.

[A]

It's kind of what I said to, to locks today, right? It's like, I don't think Philly is going to win this by griming it up. I think they're gonna show their skill and match speed. And they definitely did do that today, especially in like you said, look at ot. Like they weren't like, we're gonna beat you physically in ot. We're gonna try to skate with you. And they did. And that was great.

[B]

So you're gutted because you go, how in fuck did we lose that game? Considering we're the only team that touched the puck all of overtime.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then Taylor hall puts one in his fucking. Yeah, that sucks. Because if we leave Carolina one one, we are fucking yucking it up on the plane on the way home.

[A]

Yeah, they definitely are. But I think Carolina would be too. I think I, I, I maintain. Listen, do I think Philly is as good as Montreal or Buffalo? No, I do not. Philly is not a bad team at all though. But this is even with the, I mean, look, Carolina beat Ottawa and ot.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I just don't think Carolina is phased and When Rod said, we haven't played our best hockey yet, and you're like, that's such to say. He's still saying that.

[B]

Yeah. And he's right.

[A]

Yeah. And this game was definitely not their best. And they find a way to win too quick. You could call, like, I don't want to say weird goals. It certainly wasn't like Tampa's goal or, excuse me, Montreal's goals.

[B]

Yeah, no, those are. Those are.

[A]

I like, those are goals, you know, But I like, they were weird plays from Carolina. Kind of sleepy on it. And especially when you give up a goal within a minute, you're. You're asleep. And then they just locked down. Freddy locked down. And then they up their play.

[B]

The.

[A]

The Ehlers goal came on a power play, but it. It was a goal that felt like it was coming. Yeah, they got scored on twice, and then they just started pouring it on. Then they are all over them in the second, all over them in the third. And the Jarvey goal was like, yep, there. Like, I was like, this.

[B]

This was coming. Yeah, I. I did think Philly need. And I was. I was eventually proven wrong by this, by how well they played in overtime, but in the moment, I did think Philly needed to hold on to one or they'd be dead. So when Jarvis squared, I was like, see ya. And then they were fucking shot out of a cannon in overtime. So I take that back, but I hear you, but I don't. I think Philly goes, dude, we're okay. Just go home and let's get. Let's win game three. I mean, that is obviously the only focus, but I think there's a lot of belief in that room, and there should be that they can win game three. One thing I thought was insane in this game was the penalties. Flyers 1 for 7. Sorry, getting it. 1 for 7 on the power play. Carolina 1 for 6. Both teams pissed about that. Right? I was actually texting Mason because he was up watching the game, and I go. I said. I was like, I think Philly deserved to win after that overtime. And he goes, does any team deserve to win if you're 1 for 7 on the power play? And I. And he's not a hockey guy, but I was like, good point, Mason. Very well said. So. And you could see, dude, the.

[A]

The.

[B]

Both coaches, they were talking about intermission. Both coaches were pissed how sloppy that game was. You're getting no. 5 on 5 play when there are 13 fucking penalties called. That's ridiculous. Nobody wants that.

[C]

Can I. You guys haven't talked about my favorite

[B]

moment of the game, which was it's

[C]

when Vladar paddled Stank event on the ass.

[B]

Oh, my God. Can you see this?

[C]

Wait, dude, that is it. Is it on screen right now?

[B]

Yep.

[C]

Look at that.

[B]

Look at this spank.

[C]

He's like BDSM paddling him on the bum.

[B]

That is so funny.

[C]

So funny to me, dude.

[B]

You don't like that call?

[C]

A proper spank on the ass.

[A]

I don't like either call. I don't like the call on Stankeven, and I certainly don't like the call on Vladar.

[B]

Let me see.

[C]

You don't think you should call it goalie for paddling someone the ass?

[B]

The call on Stank is consistent, though, in my opinion. I hate. I hate where we're at with goal interference, but the call on Stank is consistent.

[C]

It's to me, just. Just a funny visual to use your goalie paddle, literally to paddle someone on the ass.

[B]

Oh, dude.

[C]

Like, they're like, he's in fucking, like, the frat house.

[B]

I'm actually kind of surprised they called him because, yeah, that's kind of swinging your stick a lot, which, you know, like any other player doing that would get called and. But usually they just give the goalie a break, especially because he's just been steamrolled. Yeah, it just looks so fun.

[C]

It's so funny.

[B]

It's dank. He's like, Stank's not really. I guess he does kind of linger, but in my mind, at first, he's kind of stuck on Vlad's leg. So he's like, dude, where do you want me to go?

[C]

He's literally, like, arching his back like a stripper, like, waiting for it.

[B]

God, it's.

[A]

That's great, dude.

[B]

I also. Osh at intermission, shout out, Osh. He's doing such a good job. Osha. Intermission goes. They were talking about the penalties and they were like, there's been. I forget what Steve Levy said, but it was X amount of delay of game calls, and it's essentially the same number of playoff games that have happened in the NHL. So essentially every game there's a delay game call. And Osh was like, I think that's so lacy. Know where the puck is going. Be responsible. Put it off the glass. And then him and Subhan were talking about going off the glass and stuff. But I couldn't agree more. And I've always said that, but I feel like everyone else goes, no, dude, you don't understand. You know, these pucks rolling edge. The NHL guys They're just trying to get it. They know they have to get it high and out. So it's whatever. In my mind, that is a fucking penalty, dude. Under no circumstances am I shooting the puck over the glass. There are insane ones. One, this earlier this year, hit cutter stick in midair. You know, he's swinging his stick to get it out and hits in midair and goes out. Okay, but when you have the puck, well, who did it? You're off. Like, if you have the puck.

[A]

Yeah, I think so.

[B]

I'm like, what the fuck are you doing, dude? It doesn't have to be that high. You know, everyone's glassing out. I'm like, dude, the boards are right here.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The glass is way up there, dude. Shoot it at the rim. Little rim job never hurt anybody. No, dude, People love fucking crazy. So that was nuts. Last thing I gotta say about this, I don't know if you guys saw this, but the Carolina Hurricanes put for sale at the rink. What is that rink called? Lenovo.

[A]

The Cane's Rink. Yeah.

[C]

Do you want me to look it up?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah. Lenovo Center. Yeah. Formerly pnc.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, that's. I was like, was it put. It's Lenovo now.

[B]

Lenovo put on sale beer skates. Did you guys see these?

[C]

Yeah, I did see that.

[A]

People are freaking out about that.

[B]

Oh, you don't like them?

[A]

No, no, I didn't.

[B]

I love them.

[A]

I think they're cool. But people. I felt as though some of the reactions were like, this is the greatest invention in the history of hockey. And I was like, oh, I didn't think they were that cool.

[C]

They haven't seen the Beer Saber yet.

[B]

Well, dude, unfortunately, I think they have. And they went, no one can fucking

[C]

drink out of this because you can't put it down.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

And it's like, guys, you're in Buffalo. Who's putting down their drink?

[B]

Dude, a bunch of. I got some buddies.

[C]

One. One sip.

[B]

I got some buddies from up there. Yeah. Go. If they're ever at an event where the drinks are served in a stemmed glass. Yeah, right. They snap the base off the stemmed glass. So now you can't put it down. It's just the stem. And they go, yeah, now you finish it now, pal.

[C]

Jesus. What a waste of stemware.

[B]

Incredible. So anyway, the beer skates, dude, go on sale, and they literally sell out. Immediately, they are gone. And now someone, the president of the Canes, has essentially said, we're not getting anymore. And people are like, what do you mean? Everybody wants them. So Badly. And he said that they can't. They just wildly underestimated that people would like them. And now the people that they worked with to make them can't turn them around fast enough to get any more back for playoffs. Damn. And. And dude, I. One of our great buddies walked into a fucking jeweler and then walked out with a wet with an engagement ring to propose that morning. And they said, sir, this is a month long process. And he said, not today it isn't, pal. Give me the fucking ring. Things can get done. I just don't understand. I refuse to believe somebody step up, some manufacturer can make the beer skate. This is mind blowing to me that they're just gonna let this opportunity die. I want one.

[A]

You, dude, you are a greedy piece of shit.

[B]

Dude. If you.

[A]

Have you ever seen the movie BlackBerry?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

You are the person who goes make the phones with the shitty parts from China that buzz and suck and you lose quality. That's what you want to have happen. No, dude, you're literally saying, figure it out no matter what. Damn. Damn the quality, dude.

[B]

I don't care if it's dripping all over you. I don't care if that thing ain't sharp. No, Dan, I've actually learned in life that all the lead time to get anything done to make this T shirt, to make this product, to get this shipped is literally all bullshit. It's just people don't want to do it. They don't want to work hard. But if you're like, hey, dude, I need it right now and I will pay, then anything can happen.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So get the beer skates. This isn't a hard equation. Get them. And somebody else should make them. If, if someone else is listening to this and can make a beer skate. A good quality one. Yeah, then make them, dude. Because you'll make.

[C]

As long as you don't. As long as you don't mind drinking little particles of glass, you're going to be fine.

[B]

Yeah, that's fine.

[C]

Yeah, no big deal.

[B]

They are cool as hell. I have a question. Can someone. Can every team make those now? Now that every team.

[C]

Well, are we, Are we getting to that? Like, you know how in movie theaters now one of the big draws is like fucking custom popcorn buckets and custom drink. Are we getting to that level now with NHL games?

[B]

You have to, dude.

[A]

Gimmicks are everything.

[B]

Gimmicks are everything.

[A]

Gimmicks are everything.

[B]

Do you think I want to drink out of the cup, dude?

[A]

I mean, dude, if you, if you don't look at how much of a talking point the. The beer saber has been?

[B]

Yeah, you every.

[A]

You need gimmicks.

[C]

Well, until I can the beer skate. Like, I could fuck the. The dune popcorn bucket butthole.

[A]

I think this is a huge failure

[B]

because you could the saber. I'll tell you that.

[A]

Get. Get your drinking items jokes out.

[C]

Sorry.

[A]

No. Do we have any more?

[C]

No, that's it.

[B]

Hold on.

[A]

Wait. How about. Will you a duck?

[B]

Okay, let's get a rubber duck dancing. Let's go.

[A]

How about that?

[C]

Yeah, I like that.

[A]

I think you have a massive missed opportunity here to. You know those like, hurricane simulators?

[B]

Yeah. You step in, the wind blows everywhere, and then you grab the money, put

[A]

people in that and just pump beer into it. See how much you can drink. Yeah.

[B]

Oh, that.

[A]

Now, that is something.

[B]

That's an idea.

[C]

We're talking a bunch of beer shot up my dad.

[B]

That's an idea.

[A]

Now we're talking.

[B]

Yeah, that is really good. All right. And I now I'm gonna drink up. I'm gonna now think up a drinking vessel for every team. I love it. And I'm. I'm going to. Someone owes me money.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I love it. Canes are sitting pretty. Flyers. Great fight. And now we come back. Now you go back to Philly. Yes.

[B]

Just win a win Game three.

[A]

Dan, let's go back to Philly.

[B]

Win game three.

[A]

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[A]

Vegas takes game one and boy, oh boy, is Mitch Marner hot.

[B]

Dude, the Mitch Marner situation is so scary. You said this after game six, but Vegas just can't. They couldn't reach their full. I guess we said this this morning on the live, but you can't. They can't reach their full potential if Mitch Marner isn't Not like carrying them because you have Jack and you have guys. But if Mitch Marner isn't special, isn't giving you a special platform, then Vegas is just the Vegas that has existed and that won a cup in whatever, 2019 or. No, no, yeah. No, 2023.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

That won a cup not that long ago, but just in the last few years. I go, I need. This is why we got you, dude. I need you to be a guy. And if you are now all of a sudden, those preseason predictions don't look that crazy. But if you're not. If you're this Mitch Marner, who's a point per game in playoffs, but he's like, I have one goal and I have a lot of assists, then I just don't think they can do anything. I don't think they can make a run. I don't think they can get past the Ducks. I don't think they can hang with a Colorado or a Minnesota. But if he's this guy, if this is Mitch, they're pretty scary.

[A]

I mean, this is the investment you made, Right? When you make an investment in a player like that, cue Jack Eichel. And then they go to the cup, and Jack performs the way he performs, you're like, and that was exactly why we did it.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

And now the way Mitch is playing, they're going, and this is exactly why we did it. So Mitch coming alive big time these last three games is absolutely huge. And that pass was disgusting.

[B]

Oh, my God, Dan.

[A]

It was the extra push. He kind of had a lane. He had a shooting lane. And then he just takes that extra step to change his angle and sees the thread and just snaps it. Yep. And it was just easy work.

[B]

And Howden, Speaking of hot Howden. And dude, it's. A lot of his goals are right around the blue paint, but so were Zach Hyman's. You know what I mean? If you have a guy who can get on the end of your Superstars plays, do you have any fucking idea how valuable that is in playoffs? You just need guys. You need guys putting pucks in nets.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

If I can get. If I can get 8 from Howden. If I get 10 from Howden in this playoff run. You're laughing. That's insane. I want to talk about the Ducks real quick at the beginning of this game, frankly, the whole game. But the Ducks. I have been banging the drum all playoffs about the road team, managing the beginning of games better.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Not coming out and getting the doors blown off you. And I guess I should have said this, too, about Philly. Credit to Philly for. For stepping on Carolina throats in the first few minutes of that game. But first game of the series, you're in the big, bad fortress, the Stanley cup champ, Vegas Golden Knights. You're the little Ducks. Vegas won the Pacific and the first. I mean, it was a scoreless first, but the Ducks were flying in the first period. I mean, that is how you play a first period road game. Dude.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I don't even know how they're doing this, dude. They don't know where they are.

[A]

They. Dude, they're just flying. Flying V. You know, they're just doing their thing. I thought this was a great game for both Dostall and Heart.

[B]

Me too. An important game in. A more important game for Dose doll than heart. Yes. But an important game for both.

[A]

Very, very important for Dose doll. Like, it was. It was a. How are you. How are you feeling? Yeah, how would you say you feel on a scale from 1 to 10? And he's like, pretty good. And. But yeah, I mean, Duckies were all over him. I think they won the shots battle in every period.

[B]

I think so. And early. It was. It was.

[A]

I mean, shots were 34, 22.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're all over.

[A]

You're. You're frustrated you didn't do better on the score sheet. But for a team that scored goals all series against Edmonton, who has a poor defense, sure, you feel like today was a blip. And then obviously, Leo Carlson makes one of the most highlight reel plays you will ever see and then just puts it so cleanly on lacombe's stick. I legitimately think it's one of those plays where it happened. It was so beautiful that lacombe was like, jesus Christ, dude. And just went to pass it across. He's a pass first guy. You gotta fucking rip that. He knows it. Everyone on the Ducks bench was so great about it. They were just like, shake it off. Whatever.

[B]

Reminds me of that Crosby mawking clip, you know?

[A]

Yeah, absolutely.

[B]

He knows, dude, tell him who's gonna get the next one.

[A]

They all handled that well. But I think the Ducks look at that play and they're like, dude, that's a goal. You know, it's. The goals were there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And, you know, Hart feels great, though.

[B]

Heart.

[A]

Heart feels great about that game because they. They did get peppered with great chances, especially down the stretch there.

[B]

Dude, this looks like Hart more in those early games of the Utah series, when I went, yo, dude, what the fuck? How in the hell? Because, dude, it was a surprise when they even got him. And we were. We said many times when that happened. Can you imagine if Carter Hart just pulls off a Khan Smythe performance in Vegas, wins the cup because they got Carter Hart after everything. And then in his run of the regular season, he just didn't look like. I'm not saying he's a bad goalie. I'm not saying he'll be out of the league. I'm not saying he won't get better. I'm just saying he didn't look like this absolute playoff game changer. Early Utah. I thought, holy shit, maybe he is. And then that tapered super early Ducks one game. But that was a hell of a, that's a hell of a playoff game that he just gave you because he made some big staves. The Ducks, Ducks were getting chances like they were firing pucks at him, and that was awesome. I also think the Ducks must think we've been talking a lot about, oh, the avs weren't playing a goal scoring team and now they are. We've been talking about it in that direction a lot. The Ducks must think, this is fucking incredible to not have to play the Oilers in terms of goal scoring against, you know, like the Oilers. Every mistake you make is bang in the back of your net and you're gonna have to score five to win. They must have been like, hold up, do they only score two? And I'm like, yeah, buddy. Yeah, it's okay. Yeah, we got a whole new way to play, dude. You don't have to freak out anymore. McDavid's gone. Draisaitl's gone. You don't have to score seven fucking goals a night. So, yeah, they wanted more than one. But look at it in the other direction. They must be like, oh, sick. We're fine.

[A]

Yeah, I think both teams, I mean, Vegas, that's a fucking great win. I, I, I feel like the Ducks feel fine, like you just said. But that's not to say they're like, dude, we're not, we're not fussed with Vegas. I think they're like, this is a great team.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

But we're in it and that's great. And if you lose game one away, that, that's a great feeling to have.

[B]

Yes. So that's good. I love starting on the road, dude. I love starting on the road. I think, I don't know if you guys saw this, but in that mid game interview that they've been doing, Hannifin got brought in and he said they kind of let him there. So I don't want to take too much credit, but I don't know if you guys heard, but he literally goes, yeah, we actually feel good with about this series because we basically just played this team like Utah was the young team with no playoff experience. That's exciting. And I was like, that's exactly what I said in the live this morning. I said, credit to me. Absolute snipe job. The Vegas Golden Knights. Go sick. We just played this exact team where, you know, the AVs are pivoting and other teams are like, oh, shit, it's a new vibe. And I'm like, do. Do what you just did. Which could. Could be scary because it felt like Vegas found the game by Game 6 against Utah. And now you're just going right into the Ducks, where you go, we got this. Yeah, but man, the Ducks gave them everything tonight. The dudes, the Ducks. The Ducks, I was watching, deserve to win. That feels harsh. But. But they absolutely could have, probably should have won that game.

[A]

Are you going to John Cooper it?

[B]

No, I will never.

[A]

They won the game. They played scoreboard.

[B]

We won the game, not the score. We should get that on a welcome mat. Yeah, I won the game, not the score. Here's my issue. Well, this is my deep seated issue. Dude, I took. I was texting Max and I said I was gonna sprinkle some first goal score. I've been loving that, okay. And I go, I feel like it's Leo or Granny. And I didn't know which one he took or if he even took him. But then when it was 00, Leo rang 1. I was like, oh, my God. Because I had Granny. And I was like, think you imagine if I had Leo, how Matt I'd be right now? And then obviously Vegas scores, but then Granny scores. And I was like, dude, I got a Leo post and a Granny second goal. Like, you gotta be fucking kidding me. But that was big. And then Vegas comes right back and Dan, I mean, this is honestly, other than the dose, still the play of Dostol and Hart. This is probably the biggest takeaway from this game for me. I think. I think that is icing. And Quenville on the bench went crazy. They showed a bunch of replays after where Jackson and Jack's a beast, but Jack is making an effort and he does have a bit of a position.

[A]

I would say at best they get even. But the interesting thing is lacombe is there first.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's not debatable.

[B]

I'm sorry.

[A]

And I'm about to read the rule.

[B]

Okay, thank you. I was just about to bring this up. I don't know what it is, but read this. Here's the thing.

[A]

Lacombe is there first. Lacombe slows up and boxes out Jack. Which part of me is like, why

[B]

did you do that?

[A]

Just go get the puck. But then you also got to remember this is a fast fucking game. He doesn't know that's going to get blown. And you also don't want to go firing in there and then get fucking ass rammed By Jack.

[B]

And I think he was afraid of catching the puck a little bit. I need this to be icing.

[A]

So listen what Dave Jackson said. And I love Dave.

[B]

You love Dave.

[A]

Dave, because it's his job, tends to agree with the refs. It is his job to do that. To try to make fans lose their mind less. But. But also it's his job to just explain the rules. He said. What people don't realize is that it's not a race to the dot. It's not the first player to get to the dot. The linesman must make a decision at the dot as to who he thinks can get to the puck first, said ESPN rules analyst Dave Jackson. At that angle, the Vegas player seems to have a step on the Anaheim player. Disagree passionately. His judgment right there is that the Anaheim player stops skating, puts his arm out and the Vegas player would win the race to the puck. That's why he waves it off, in my opinion. Well said by Dave. I disagree. I think Jackson was there first and then at the end of the play, Jackson is certainly in position and there first. His stick is outstretched. It is what it is. I. I do not give a fuck about this play. I am not. I am not sitting here going, that is why they won. It's bullshit. I am. I have been all playoffs. I think complaining about the refs is the most bitch made behavior in the world. Every single game has plays like this. Some of them result in goals, some do not. Bitching about it is soft as shit. We do sometimes have to talk about it. We're talking about it right now. I think that was icing. I think that was icing. It's whatever. It doesn't matter. And I'm not sitting here being like the Ducks got robbed because they fucking lost. Whatever. You didn't have to give up a goal right after that, but you did so fucking suck it up.

[B]

Sick pass.

[A]

Sick pass by Dorothea. So you gave up a goal. Frankly, Trubo was asleep at the wheel on the COVID there.

[B]

It was icing.

[A]

It's whatever. I thought it was icing. It doesn't fucking matter if it was icing or not. But that's. That dems the breaks, folks.

[B]

I actually. What I thought you were gonna say about the rule. Cause this is true. Is it's not like a race to the flat line. Like if a puck is in the corner and I'm the defenseman going this way. If you don't get to just skate like straight to the goal and try to like lacrosse beat me, that's like, I'm going to get the puck. What I didn't. What I've never heard is it's a decision@the dot to see who would then win. And I'm sure that is literally what the rule says, but I don't even think it gets called that way. It doesn't, Chris. Because that is why if the defenseman beats him, they go boom.

[A]

Yeah. That is why I think it's bullshit. Because we have seen all year, icing is called. I think they call icing sometimes in a way to like protect players too.

[B]

Yeah, agree.

[A]

It is so often that the four checking team, in my opinion, is their first or gonna get there first. And they're like, icing.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Because they're just like, whatever. And players are always like, are you fucking kidding me, dude? I was getting that. This was one where I was like, the defensive player has position. And you call it that favorably every time.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then this one, they don't. And it results in a goal. So I was like, that feels insane that you're. This is the. The reasoning that they give when it feels like it has gone the other way every single time. And what's annoying about that is blind Vegas fans will go, well, doesn't matter because that's the fucking rule.

[B]

And I'm like this.

[A]

Yeah, but even with the rule, I think it's wrong.

[B]

I think lacombe was there first. Yeah.

[A]

So fucking you're dumb. And this rule is dumb. And then we're all dumb. I'm dumb. Fucking A. Yeah. So that's why I'm saying it's. It doesn't matter because here's the thing. I think it was icing. What the fuck do I know? The Vegas fans are all going to say it was an icing because you're a biased dipshit. And Ducks fans are going to say it was because they're biased dipshits. It. These things don't matter.

[B]

Like the pasta ot go.

[A]

Yeah, these things do not fucking. Well, that one is crazy because if you think that that was offside, you are actually blind. This one is, you know, I think this way, you think that way. Who fucking cares? The play went on. Everyone on the ice knew the play was going on. And Vegas made a better play than Anaheim. So they fucking scored and they won the game. That's that. There's no point in complaining about.

[B]

I think this could be just what they needed. And I'm dead ass. I like that because, dude, sometimes in playoffs you're always dude, unless you're Rolling. The playoffs are a grind. Even. Even a 5 gamer can feel like an absolute. I mean, look at Kings, Kings, Rangers, cup. A 5 gamer can feel like a grind. Game of inches. Don't even get me started on 6, 7. But the. When you lose a playoff game, I actually love when you can get pissed about something where you feel like you got jobbed a little bit. I know some people react poorly to that, and it maybe messes their future game up, but for me, it was always easier to go. Instead of going, man, they just fucking waxed us. It's so easier for me to go. Those fuckers. Like, that should have been fucking icing. We'd be in overtime.

[A]

We would have won that game. They're fucking jokes.

[C]

Yeah, we would have won if it wasn't for the bullshit scenario.

[B]

It somehow fires me up more because I'm like, we will beat them now. Like, they stink. They owe us one. You. You know, so I think the Ducks go into that being like, that's horseshit. That was a clear icing. And we should be in overtime where we've. We've won games already in overtime this season, and, you know, in this playoff, and we would have been fine. So that's. That's my mentality in that locker room. Speaking of mentality in the locker room, he's too good a player to let this matter, but I feel for Jackson McComb right now because it was essentially him on the open net, him on the icing, him letting it go over his stick at the blue. 30 seconds left. And I'm like, I'm sure he's. No one's more mad at himself than him, but that sucks.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, he's definitely, like, didn't have one tonight, but then again, at the same time, he's like, top three in points in the playoffs. And he is, for the first time in what feels like his career, the entire hockey world is going, wait a minute. Is this guy one of the best players in the league? And the answer is yes. So he's going to be fine. Yep.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, he's golden. And like you said, after the empty net miss, as has his whole team told him, you know, they're like, we're good. We're good. So. Yeah, man, that was a great game. I was. I didn't think the Ducks were going to blow out Vegas. That wasn't a scenario in my mind. Coming into this game. I was worried Vegas would be. Blow out the Ducks. Yeah. And I'm. I couldn't be happier that we got Such a great one. And with the ducks throwing haymakers, truly, the ducks were. Were not afraid at all of the moment of the team, of anything. And in many scenarios, they win that exact game.

[A]

Yeah. Will you just look at this clip of the icing and tell me it doesn't look like the most blatant icing of all time?

[B]

Dan, you know what's even crazier about it? Just.

[A]

Just watch. Just watch the clip in real time.

[B]

He's miles ahead of him. His stick. His stick is miles.

[A]

It is. I don't. I don't get it. And all the freeze frames that people are trying to use in defense of Vegas, I don't get either.

[B]

Well, Dan, here's my favorite part. They say, and again, I love Dave, but Dave. And presumably the refs are saying Jack would beat him. He literally doesn't.

[A]

I know.

[B]

It's not even a this. We don't have to have a hypothetical here. They didn't call it icing. So who beat who got to the puck first? It's very strange. They go. Lacombe did. And I'm like, okay, so that.

[A]

That is very, very strange. But again, in addition to the like, oh, man, this is so brutal. It's like lacombe turns the puck. And I think the argument would be when lacombe touches it, you can see he's. He doesn't really put anything on. I think he's just like. And that's icing.

[B]

And that's icing.

[A]

And it's not. But instead, he just passes it straight to a Vegas player.

[B]

And I think he's then like, what are you doing? And even the Truba asleep. I think a lot of that is him going like this. Anyway, that's icing.

[A]

Oh, no, no, no. But by then, they're fully playing, like, Truba, even in this clip right here. He pivots positions in front of the net, and he's. He's scanning.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Sorry, troops. I tried to help you out there, Dan.

[A]

I don't know why.

[B]

I just. Sewer Dan. Fucking.

[A]

You're right.

[B]

No, he was. He thought it was over. Jesus Christ.

[A]

All right, well, huge game from Vegas. Love to see it. Love to see a win on home ice.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

What do we got tonight?

[B]

Okay, so this will be Tuesday. Yep. Tuesday night. When you're listening to this, I feel

[A]

like I always catch you off guard with this. Instead, I'll just go, I will take you one game. We have one game, and it's the

[B]

drunkest game of all time.

[A]

Wild Avalanche in Colorado best series, we

[B]

hope, in my opinion, coming.

[A]

Keep them coming. Best series of round two. So we'll be dialed into that and then we'll be live Wednesday morning talking about the madness. Unbelievable stuff. All right, folks, that's going to do it for us. We love you. Make sure to subscribe to the YouTube follow on all the socials if you can. Please, please, Please toss us 5 star reviews on Spotify and Apple. Just stay dialed in with us. We love you. We'll see you Wednesday morning. And until then, skate hard.