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Dan Powers
Welcome to the Empty Netters podcast.
Chris Powers
Can you believe what this has become? There was a full 48 hours where
Dan Powers
I felt like I was like, literally Superman. Jumbo loves playing Fortnite.
Chris Powers
So does he gets on the sticks.
Dan Powers
Did TR show you the saunacycle or was that all you did?
Chris Powers
No, I invented that. Almost a year now that I haven't taken a body check. That's kind of nice.
Dan Powers
So we are back. We are horned up and we are going deep. Finished tonight with some chicken fingers and a few Guinnesses.
Chris Powers
Ran into you guys.
Dan Powers
And that's where this pod came to life. Ice is ready. And we are back with another episode of the Empty Netters podcast, brought to you by BetMGM. I am your host, Dan Powers, coming at you with a late night sesh.
Chris Powers
Netters After Dark.
Dan Powers
That guy you just heard there interrupting my flow is Chris Powers, as always. I can't tell if that's you interrupting my flow as always or. No, it is you, as always. When do you think you're gonna get a haircut?
Chris Powers
I don't know. I was actually thinking about that and I was like, what was I aiming at? And then I think it was Coachella. I was like, oh, I'll keep it long through Coachella. And then I kind of forgot that's what I was aiming at. So now I'm like, oh, shit.
Dan Powers
Do you think you're a little too old to be growing your hair out specifically for Coachella?
Chris Powers
I don't grow it out for Coachella. I just happen to be like, oh, I'm not gonna get a cut before that.
Dan Powers
But it sounds like you bookmarked Coachella for your.
Chris Powers
I did this year. But it just kind of like, I'll get it. I get it cut, then it starts to grow out. Then when it's that mid length again, I start being like, what if I get this cut? And then I do look at calendars and I go, oh, maybe that. Maybe I'll finish the ski season. Things like that, like, whatever's kind of, like, near me. Well, Halloween, that's a big one, actually,
Dan Powers
because I'll be thinking, can I. Can I be honest with you?
Chris Powers
Oh, I'll change. I'll change.
Dan Powers
My. You are such a cold.
Chris Powers
Literally, my body. Yeah.
Dan Powers
Not your heart. You've got a warm heart. I will give you that. You are such a cold bitch that you wear so much shit on your head and neck during your ski sessions that your long hair that you think looks good doesn't even stick out.
Chris Powers
So what do you care at opera from the grave.
Dan Powers
It then just looks matted and disgusted.
Chris Powers
She sends her best from the grave.
Dan Powers
We become incredibly spiritual. My hair has become incredibly slowy and long.
Chris Powers
Yeah.
Dan Powers
But it just looks matted and terrible.
Chris Powers
No, it's cool.
Dan Powers
Oh, okay. I didn't consider that.
Chris Powers
Yeah, it's cool.
Dan Powers
Do you consider the Bruins winning an ot?
Chris Powers
No, because I. God, I shouldn't even admit things like this. Oh, boy. But on the. On the live this morning, we were saying Boston could win this game. Boston could win this game because Jeremy Swayman would go, hey, you. And all of the guys said the word embarrassing. 50,000.
Dan Powers
I think we g. We both guaranteed a Boston.
Chris Powers
They're going to win. They're going to win. They're going to win. Sway's going to be incredible. And I. I said on the live. The only problem is the Bruins clearly have an infant issue scoring on Alex Lyon. So they. Sway could be incredible, and the Bruins are going to lose two one and whatever. And I'm just sitting there watching this game like, oh, one one and ot.
Dan Powers
And you were like, oh, my God,
Chris Powers
dude, I was incredibly sharp today.
Dan Powers
We guaranteed a Bruins win. And we were like, pasta's got to get going.
Chris Powers
Yep. But I. What? The one thing I shouldn't admit was I texted you and said, just put me out of my fucking misery. You know, I always just want it. I'm like, I don't. I don't. It reaches a point where you don't want to do it anymore. Yeah. But then a little fight, though. Then a little fight.
Dan Powers
It was a little bit of fight. And you know what? If there's ever been a time where I believe the Bees could come all the way back, it's after a win like that, because a win like that feels like something I want. It feels like you're saying something.
Chris Powers
I wanted to ask you that question later in the set, but let's just do it for the B's right now.
Dan Powers
Okay?
Chris Powers
The Sabres, we also said on the live this morning today that they could. The way they've been playing, I felt like they could lose Game 5 at home and then just go in and Game 6 in Boston and not really be stressed. Yeah, that's what I said before the game.
Dan Powers
Sure.
Chris Powers
Now I think I just. Playoffs are reactionary. But now I actually do feel like you kind of go,
Dan Powers
listen, you.
Chris Powers
You.
Dan Powers
You feel that way all the time in playoffs.
Chris Powers
That's playoffs. That's playoffs, baby.
Dan Powers
Everyone, if there's anything. There's actually. There's a point from the Dallas, Minnesota game that we're going to get to and talk about that's going to launch into a larger thought and idea that I have. And it's that I think I have become numb to fandom.
Chris Powers
Okay. What do you mean?
Dan Powers
I've been beaten down by fandom? Yes. Fandom I find to be largely one of the most annoying things that human beings do. The way human beings react to being fans, largely, most of the time, I find incredibly distasteful, which is a bummer. Cause I used to love being a fan, and I just. We have seen in playoffs now so many people devolve into the shittiest version of themselves. In the name of Christ, dude. In the name of their Lord and Savior, their dude.
Chris Powers
Stanley. Stanley. Come.
Dan Powers
Yes. And people just become irrational and rude and angry and delusional. And I've just kind of become numb to it. To the point where I'm like, I know that you're all. The second playoffs start, you're all gonna turn into gremlins. It's after midnight and you've been fed, unfortunately.
Chris Powers
Oh, it's food.
Dan Powers
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chris Powers
What happens with the water?
Dan Powers
I think the water kills them. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It burns them, like, melts them. But if you feed them after midnight, they turn into gremlins. So the playoffs arrive, it is after midnight, and you all turn into gremlins, and you all just see red. And you cannot be reasoned with. And to that I say, boo. No. All the power to you, like, you know, be. Go for it. If this is the type of fan you are, go for it. This is your time to shine. And, yeah, I think when playoffs come, everyone's feeling a little toit, little sphincter puckering, and that's okay. This is how we'll get through it together.
Chris Powers
The. I saw someone on Twitter. I don't know if I can find it. I probably could, but I. It was forever ago, but somebody tweeted something like, the Bruins were holding Tage Thompson all game, no call. And pasta was off, literally offside. But we shouldn't. This is the person talking still. But we shouldn't be bothered by this, because you have to remember this is a business. So they're just like, they. We all know who's offside, but, like, we just. The NHL needs the Bruins to win this game, so we can keep going.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
And this is what you're talking about, where I'm like, do you think that. Do you think those things is that person?
Dan Powers
That person who put that for free on the Internet means that they literally
Chris Powers
think he's going pasta offside.
Dan Powers
That the refs. No, the refs go, this is a business, dude. And we gotta sell. We gotta put butts in seats.
Chris Powers
You know what I always love about the takes?
Dan Powers
That person believes that, dude.
Chris Powers
But here's what I always love about the takes like this. The implication is that, hey, if you get a chance to extend the series for Boston, do it. And that means that in some discussions, they're implying that Pasta will score an overtime game winning goal while being a fraction offside. And then they're just like, in this scenario, just look away. And then they go, wouldn't you know it? That exact scenario happened.
Dan Powers
That person, Chris, then goes, why do you think he was floating all game? Dude, he was floating all game. Because it was in the script. The script said float and get a breakaway goal. And then you would also think that if that were in the script, why would they review it? Why would they even look at it?
Chris Powers
For. For to throw you off the scent. To throw you off the set.
Dan Powers
Because if they didn't look at it, I'd go like this. That was clearly the script. Yeah, that's why.
Chris Powers
No check. No check.
Dan Powers
I like that. I like that.
Chris Powers
Me too.
Dan Powers
Make conspiracies great again in the NHL.
Chris Powers
And we got one. So let's stay on pasta for a second because we're here. He was on side. It was close. He was onside. I do think he was getting behind the D a lot today. We see him do it sometimes, but I do think he was getting behind the D a lot today. Shelly also calls it anticipation, anticipating. Yeah, I'm not mad about it, dude.
Dan Powers
Me neither. They also. He heard us.
Chris Powers
Yep.
Dan Powers
He heard all the people being like this. We got to get pasta. Score. And not, not, not. You're not doing good enough. It was like, we need you, baby.
Chris Powers
We need.
Dan Powers
He's like, I got you.
Chris Powers
And dude, people forget this.
Dan Powers
These.
Chris Powers
You know what is a business? NHL fucking teams. Not the league. The league. Well, the league is also business. But the results of the games are not a business. Yeah, the league is a business. And NHL teams are a business with fucking staff that they pay to do certain jobs. Do you see the guy putting his finger on fucking sticks all shift to make sure someone gets a new stick? That's a job. You know what else is a job on NHL fan bases? Tell me. Film. Film guys. And dude, I assure you, someone saw something in the buffalo tape that said, hey, in these situations, you can get behind. Get behind the D. They turn it over, we will spring you.
Dan Powers
Their D's pinching too hard on transitions
Chris Powers
at fucking midnight on Wednesday. Beer league going. I don't feel like back checking. I'm just going to stay on the far blue.
Dan Powers
I want my cookies tonight.
Chris Powers
We're down three, one, two. But I am not leaving this city without a fucking goal.
Dan Powers
I don't care if we lose facing elimination in Buffalo, but you bet your ass I'm getting a tough.
Chris Powers
And they're going pasta, get back. And he's like, fuck you. No, incorrect, dude. Someone has seen something and said, do this. So he is doing it. Yeah, you're welcome. And it fucking worked. So. Yeah. Okay. So it's all.
Dan Powers
I was really loving the. Just the. The weird vitriol about him floating all game.
Chris Powers
Yeah.
Dan Powers
As if the game was five to four.
Chris Powers
Yeah.
Dan Powers
And his float, it was like it was a tilt one. One game into overtime. Like it was not this, like, crazy. He was being reckless defensively. But hey, whatever narrative you want. Yeah, whatever you need. I like it.
Chris Powers
Great goal. Great goal.
Dan Powers
Yeah, really pretty.
Chris Powers
Really pretty goal. Pretty good play by Lion. Almost got back for that. Like, when he stopped, I was like, oh, torched.
Dan Powers
And then I was like, whoa, he's been unbelievable.
Chris Powers
Unbelievable, Dan. He played so well.
Dan Powers
He's been unbelievable.
Chris Powers
So good goal. Let's talk about the fan chirping.
Dan Powers
I was. I couldn't believe it.
Chris Powers
Dude. What I love too, this is another one of your fandom things. The. I will do this to a friend of mine. Like, for example, somebody. Somebody who I will not name did something during a game, I won't even say, but a team scored who theoretically he wasn't rooting for. And even though it was like kind of a joke and I kind of was rooting for them, he. Even though that was also kind of a joke. And the team I wanted scored. And I went like this in his face and we all had a good laugh. Okay. So there's. There's a time and a place for things like that, but nothing makes me actually laugh harder than. And when an NHL player scores and there's always a slow mo of the goal as he slides into the glass, usually on the road. And immediately someone in the home jersey who has just been scored on stands
Dan Powers
up and goes like, birds them.
Chris Powers
Yeah. Like, dude, why?
Dan Powers
Guaranteed, guaranteed birding, dude.
Chris Powers
Every fucking time.
Dan Powers
It's not even a drive by birding. It is a head on a rear end collision birding.
Chris Powers
So I was watching the possible again and I. I'm sure he did, but I didn't even see an angle where the Dude. He presumably is beaking to death. Yeah, birded him. But if you watch the angle, a different guy also in a goat head is up off his feet so quickly. So I want to know in your mind, is that the first time that that pasta has laid eyes on that. That man?
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
Or have they made eye contact throughout this.
Dan Powers
Oh, I think throughout the game, probably. Okay, I. Here's. I think Buffalo fans are my favorite fans on earth.
Chris Powers
They are incredible.
Dan Powers
They're incredible and I love them. I love them.
Chris Powers
I love the city. They parties there.
Dan Powers
Yeah, I love Buffalo. I know. I want to go there so bad. I love Buffalo so much. I love Buffalo people so much. I love those fans. I think they're so funny. I think they're incredibly self aware.
Chris Powers
Yep.
Dan Powers
They potty so hard.
Chris Powers
So hard.
Dan Powers
And they are also. No one deals with devastation better than Buffalo people.
Chris Powers
Great call.
Dan Powers
They don't burn their city down when they lose. They don't beat their. They don't fucking beat their spouse when they lose. They just drink and they eat wings and I love it.
Chris Powers
You know what I. You know what I've always said I miss the most about sports fandom in Boston. Watching sports in Boston, I really don't like how or it doesn't feel this way. I shouldn't really trip the city this bad. But it doesn't feel like this happens in LA if an LA team loses a significant game. And I don't mean a fucking regular, regular season Dodgers game. I mean if you lose a huge playoff game or something or a football game that really mattered.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
In Boston. And dude, in, in Maine, if you went to the grocery store that Monday, everyone you saw was like, tough one last night.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
You know, and you're like, yeah, it was such a misery as company thing. All we're talking about is how bummed we are about the sporting event last night. Or reverse in the happiness. But it was just. It was. It permeated through everything and every person in la. I don't go to the grocery store and see anyone being like. Even if they are bummed, they just don't. No one talks about it and they don't care. You know, it just doesn't feel that way. Buffalo does that probably even more than Boston. But Buffalo does that so hard. And that's why I feel so connected to them because the whole city goes, fuck, we all really wanted that together. And they go, I know, I'm bummed too. So.
Dan Powers
Because of that, because of how much I love them. I was surprised there was this much vitriol from Pasta.
Chris Powers
I wrote my only note for this was that poor fan, because he just got. I was like, dude, what is going on? Buzz, I need. There are people doing this all the time online. Someone's got to have a good angle of it and be. Do the lip reading thing, because I just want to know. I want. And someone know.
Dan Powers
You want to know what Pasta said?
Chris Powers
Oh, both.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
Because I want to know what that. Like, I said, I didn't see a bird. There probably was a bird. I didn't see it, but it's probably a bird. But. And. And again, maybe. Dan, this is why I asked you that question earlier. Maybe something happened earlier in that game during a dead puck or whatever. Pasta went to the corner and that guy did something. But if that dude was just like, fuck you, because he was just doing the thing.
Dan Powers
Imagine if Pasta scored and then jumped right into the glass. What if it happened just right then and there? If he jumped in the glass and made eye contact with the guy and the guy did or said something. Imposter. I mean, that's possible.
Chris Powers
It is.
Dan Powers
It's like that guy, and he might have just been like this fuck you, pussy. And Pasta might have just the. You know, he's vibing off that goal and he just might have been like, I'm a pussy.
Chris Powers
Yeah.
Dan Powers
I'm gonna fucking eat your lunch tomorrow. Great chirp, Dan.
Chris Powers
Yeah, that was awesome. I hope he said that.
Dan Powers
That's the best I could come up with right now.
Chris Powers
And Dan, Pasta, I just said I'm
Dan Powers
gonna eat your lunch.
Chris Powers
Dude. People. The poor people of Buffalo cannot afford you eat lunch.
Dan Powers
That guy brings his lunch in a fucking steel.
Chris Powers
Yeah. A lunch pail ting like pins open.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
If it's it. And it's Kellogg's cereal. Inside's a Kellogg cereal sloshing around.
Dan Powers
No, no.
Chris Powers
Empty.
Dan Powers
He's bringing the milk in a thermos.
Chris Powers
One of those things.
Dan Powers
And the loose Kellogg's.
Chris Powers
One of those things.
Dan Powers
Dan, does Kellogg's make just plain cereal?
Chris Powers
Wasn't it. Didn't they.
Dan Powers
Cornflakes is corn. Kellogg's Cornflakes.
Chris Powers
Cornflakes. Kellogg. Didn't they just. Wasn't that like the. The chicken. It's. Yeah, it's rooster.
Dan Powers
Rooster, right.
Chris Powers
Yeah.
Dan Powers
Yeah. Kellogg's Cornflakes.
Chris Powers
Yeah. It's a green and red and yellow rooster. That was just cereal.
Dan Powers
Yeah, Kellogg's is Cornflakes. And it is. You bet your ass it's a rooster.
Chris Powers
Boom. Regular cereal. Yeah, I know my junk food eating that.
Dan Powers
They got. Hey, they got strawberry corn flakes. To see.
Chris Powers
That sounds good. Regular cereal is fucking insane.
Dan Powers
Cereal is so good. Was the last time you had a bowl of cereal, Dave?
Chris Powers
I want to say a month ago.
Dan Powers
Really?
Chris Powers
Yeah.
Dan Powers
What? You have Raisin Bran? Dude, you know Raisin Bran is low key, like the sugary cereal.
Chris Powers
Yeah, it's crazy.
Dan Powers
It's Dave's like, you bet your ass.
Chris Powers
I know.
Dan Powers
If I'm gonna. If I'm gonna do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna do it.
Chris Powers
It. Dude.
Dan Powers
It's funny because it's marketed as a healthy cereal.
Chris Powers
Oh, no.
Dan Powers
And it's. It is more sugary than Fruity Pebbles. And, dude, Lucky Charms are before you.
Chris Powers
It's so good. But it's awesome.
Dan Powers
It's so good. I give myself one one day a year, I go to the grocery store and I buy two boxes of cereal.
Chris Powers
He eats both boxes in that one day.
Dan Powers
I do.
Chris Powers
Yep. Yeah, I'll buy the little individual packs. Are you shitting me?
Dan Powers
Oh, yeah. What do you even get those?
Chris Powers
Yeah. Grocery store, right? Really?
Dan Powers
No.
Chris Powers
Yeah, yeah. Ralph's. You're telling me I got an individual
Dan Powers
pack cereals, telling me I can go to Ralph's and get an individual, individual.
Chris Powers
Dude, what are those? Who are those for?
Dan Powers
If you gun to your head, both of you, you're on your death row meal. And you can have one bowl of cereal. What is it?
Chris Powers
CT Crunch.
Dan Powers
You're a liar.
Chris Powers
No, I love cinnamon, dude. Cinnamon.
Dan Powers
Oh, wait, sorry. Sorry.
Chris Powers
The. Did you think I meant Captain Crunch?
Dan Powers
Y.
Chris Powers
You insane? Yeah, CT Crunch. Maybe Reese's puffs. Oh, God, those are incredible. I'd say Froot Loops. Yeah.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
You know what I like, didn't they, like, change.
Dan Powers
Didn't they change the color of Fruit Loops? Or some. Or maybe it was that Apple Jacks are all one color now.
Chris Powers
Oh, yeah. They were two.
Dan Powers
They used to be. It was like, green and orange. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And I'm pretty sure I'm. Oh, if I Google it, they look like they're two different colors.
Chris Powers
Maybe they were one color, now they're two. Oh, it's good that we don't eat cereal enough to know that. Actually, no.
Dan Powers
Yeah. I feel like Froot Loops. Maybe I've just been in England too much recently because Fruit Loops. Fuck you. In England, Fruit Loops are only, like, three colors, and here they're like, fucking 19. It's insane.
Chris Powers
They're. They're only three.
Dan Powers
Yeah, I think so.
Chris Powers
That's sad. The Brits don't know what they're missing, dude.
Dan Powers
Well, they've got all the flavors I know.
Chris Powers
It's just part of the.
Dan Powers
It's the part of the visual die.
Chris Powers
It's part of the process. Okay.
Dan Powers
That chirp was just awesome. And that'll get pasta fired up. And you hear. Do you hear what he said in his postgame?
Chris Powers
No.
Dan Powers
They were like, what do you have to say to the fans back in Boston? He said, just be loud. Be patient. We're going to shoot the puck. Don't worry. Just be loud.
Chris Powers
So, dude, that means there was a lot of shoots in game four, which upsets me. I didn't know that. And I need to talk to some of the boys and say, hey, stop.
Dan Powers
No, no. Note to the Boston fans. You better bring heavy energy to the
Chris Powers
Garden because Buffalo has been shaking that building. Literally, the foundation is shaking.
Dan Powers
Yeah. Yeah.
Chris Powers
And dude, what's a fucking tragedy for the people of Buffalo is, I guess they had an electric game. One win, truly. I mean, like, you know, a friend of ours said it was one of the greatest sporting events ever, but the. Actually, everyone knows he was there. It was Wyatt. He was like. It was incredible.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
But they've now lost two of their three home playoff games. Like, that sucks, you know? And the Sabres are doing fine because they won both in Boston. So you're all good. You're still winning the series. But it does suck for the people of Buffalo who are like, fuck, dude, I'm giving you everything. I wanted a little riot. And they just keep losing these games.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
God damn it. But yes, Boston fans, bring it. None of the person I know is going to bring it is Sway. I thought he was the best player on the team again.
Dan Powers
Yep.
Chris Powers
You knew he was going to, but he really did make some huge ones.
Dan Powers
He made.
Chris Powers
So did lion, so did Lion.
Dan Powers
But oh, yeah, Lion's been. I will say it again, Lion's been unreal. But yeah, Sway is the best player on the Bruins in this series. And it's just yet another game where he just played fucking phenomenal. He stood on his head. So many traffic jams in front of the net in this game.
Chris Powers
He got run by maybe Benson. Not in a bad way. It was just like he got pushed
Dan Powers
in Benson, that Carney, he has been a thorn in the side this series.
Chris Powers
I know. He almost had one with the. With the stick. With the Stick guy.
Dan Powers
Yes.
Chris Powers
I was like, that would have been cool.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
Yep. But Sway was incredible. I thought Tucky might have wanted that one back in OT when it fell to him and I was like, oh, might have. Cuz Sway just couldn't see it.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
And he just didn't elevate. Like, it was a good save, but if that's above that pad, that's in. Yeah. And I was like, oh, my God. Do you want to talk about Tage at all?
Dan Powers
Not really. I mean, Tage, obviously, he had a great game one. Look up his point totals right now. I mean, I do think there's something up with the way they're playing him. He feels like he's playing outside of his game a little bit.
Chris Powers
And there.
Dan Powers
There are just times where, you know,
Chris Powers
he's getting held all game. They're not calling it.
Dan Powers
Yeah. I don't know what. I genuinely don't even know what that person is talking about, but paying attention to him. Yeah, I think. I think Taej just. Tage has got to open up a little bit more. Little. He's a little. He's little Robe Tronic.
Chris Powers
Okay. You know, Page had two goals in an apple in the first game.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
So three points on all three or did they get empty out of that game? I can't remember. But. But they won. And then he had zero points in the 4, 2 loss. He had zero points in the 3, 1 win. And he had one apple in the 6. One win. And then Ton, he had one apple.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
On the Darling goal.
Dan Powers
So he's playing. I was like the one goal. So he's playing, you know, he's point per game. Yep, he's playing well. But I think there is. I think there's a fluidity to his game that we're not really seeing right now since game one. And let's be honest, in game one, it was really only in that third period. But yeah, I think he's just got to run and gun more. Like when Tejas. When Tejas is kind of a downhill player and he's just fucking heavy forechecking. Get, you know, getting those inside out shots. Quick move, quick spray on net. I think that's when he's at his best. And right now he feels like he's in a box a little bit. Get him out of the box.
Chris Powers
Let him rip.
Dan Powers
Someone grab an exacto knife. Get him out.
Chris Powers
Are you worried you're Buffalo? Are you worried? No, you feel fine.
Dan Powers
You win in Buffalo, like we said. I think that that was even in Buffalo. I think that was a game that Boston had to win.
Chris Powers
Five sucks, dude.
Dan Powers
Yeah, five sucks. This Boston team is way too good to lose in five, even to this amazing Buffalo team. But their response after getting the Doors blown off in Game 4, it was a game they had to win. And I don't mean literally because they were going to be eliminated. It just felt like the response with this group, they were going to win this game.
Chris Powers
It also feels like there's exceptions to this, of course, but, uh, that Kings 20:14 run, or I guess 20:12 run, where they get. When they went 16 and 4 or whatever, where you just go, yeah, we're murdering everybody. This happens. But for the most part, your success in the NHL playoffs and probably the NBA and MLB playoffs too, however, those are a little bit more dictated on pitcher in the mlb. But your success in the NHL playoffs is largely determined by how you respond to. To adversity. When you. When you drop a game you shouldn't have, when you're embarrassed at home, when you lose a swing game, if you can bounce back and, and not stack losses, you are going to go on a long run. And I think Boston, to your point, absolutely had to respond to that game for Porter Potty. And Buffalo now gets the chance to go, hey, boys, we had a chance to close out a playoff series for the first time in 15 years and go on to the next round. And we puked at home. We didn't puke, but, you know, we lost at home in front of our fans. Respond. No one wants a game seven. Respond. Yeah, just get it done. And I think they have a very good chance. And dude, this Buffalo team, obviously you're stressing if it goes seven, but this Buffalo team, even if it does go seven, should go.
Dan Powers
We can win.
Chris Powers
We're at home. Win a game against the team we're better than. Yeah, it's fine.
Dan Powers
They're so good.
Chris Powers
You know, it's okay. We have to. Or.
Dan Powers
God, you will. You briefly mentioned it, and I just want to bring it up because I just tweeted a photo.
Chris Powers
We.
Dan Powers
We did not spend any time talking about the offside call or the. The ot. Is it offside? Because. Oh, here we go. Empty net. Bet. Come on, you fuckers.
Chris Powers
Four minutes of an empty net. Here we go.
Dan Powers
Here we go.
Chris Powers
Need a bounce.
Dan Powers
We did not spend any time talking about if Pasta was offside or not because he is so clearly onside. And if you haven't seen this photo. Yeah, yeah, we're done here. There's nothing to discuss. He's. I'm sorry if. But these are the things that Chris, like, you talked about. What game was it where we were talking about the offside call and the hover rule.
Chris Powers
The Canes. It was the Canes OT where I was.
Dan Powers
I don't know if it's because people don't know the hover rule.
Chris Powers
Yeah.
Dan Powers
But if there is a human who can look at that photo, frankly, in my opinion, similar to the Ducks. Overtime goal.
Chris Powers
Yeah, yeah.
Dan Powers
And go. That is offside, then. That's enough Internet for me today.
Chris Powers
Dude. People. Dude, people get so angley online when they go, well, listen, the camera's here, and there's you. The. The puck. There's ice over the paint. That is the line. So it's. It's. You're getting a weird angle at it. And I'm just like.
Dan Powers
I just don't understand what people think that they're seeing.
Chris Powers
And also, Dan, what we have, the tech that we have to see these things, including biological tech, our retinas, what we can see is what it is. Reality is literally what is in front of my brain.
Dan Powers
It's. It's unbelievable.
Chris Powers
So if it looks like that you're on side. That dress was yellow and blue both. Because it was.
Dan Powers
Wasn't that the dress was a golden blue, or. No, it was white and gold and blue and black.
Chris Powers
Yeah. And that's what I meant.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
It's both. Because my brain saw both, so it is both.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
He's on side. End of discussion. What does need to be discussed? What's not over is I want your thoughts on Witt's chunk.
Dan Powers
I'm gonna act as Wit's lawyer here. We.
Chris Powers
He has released his own statements. You don't defend him.
Dan Powers
He owned up to it, and that's because Whit is a man of honor.
Chris Powers
Yep.
Dan Powers
But until I myself chug out of the saber, which everyone says is impossible, I will reserve judgment, critique, or, frankly, any comments on the matter. It was not his finest hour. But that is a man of honor. That is a man of talent. It's a man who I know can drink a beer.
Chris Powers
Yeah.
Dan Powers
So I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. He was given. He was given information to be hesitant with the saber because it's hard to chug out. I just. I'm going to. I will not pass judgment until I try it myself.
Chris Powers
Well, what I love is. It actually makes perfect sense to me because he said, and, dude, if you watch Wyatt's chug at the lake. Yeah. It gets all over him. All over him. It explodes. And when we were asking about it, he said, like, there was no way to keep it off my chest. And then Whit said he chugged one outside and dumped it all over.
Dan Powers
Well, people were like, you can't chug it, dude. It's going to spill everywhere.
Chris Powers
So then the guy coming inside was like. Or one guy said to him like, you should have just worn the spill again, cuz. Whit was like, I already got it all over this chair. I didn't want to do that again. And so it made perfect sense that he was going. He's like, I got to go slow.
Dan Powers
But I was like, dude, it was terrible.
Chris Powers
It just looks.
Dan Powers
No, sorry, I didn't say that.
Chris Powers
It just looked so ridiculous.
Dan Powers
It was terrible that something happened.
Chris Powers
So funny. So shout out. Whit, I appreciate you owning up. And I am also a. And actually, I'm not even going to say what's a terrible chugger because it's hard to chug out the saber. I'm a terrible chugger out of anything. Yeah, I'd be even worse than you, buddy. And we're good, dude.
Dan Powers
So it's. You're always clear in your throat. You gotta, you gotta. You got a tight throat. Yeah.
Chris Powers
What do you want? Gonna get beer down there again. Can you believe the fucking Ducks take a penalty? Which fucks the empty net. This always happens. Like they pull the goalie and then some team takes a penalty.
Dan Powers
That's a nightmare.
Chris Powers
We could still win though.
Dan Powers
Are you. Oh, the bet.
Chris Powers
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Dan Powers
Stars Wild. Zuk back.
Chris Powers
Zuk goal.
Dan Powers
Zuk goal immediately.
Chris Powers
How do you think that feels for the Wild dude? It feels so good because you're telling yourself that. I mean, obviously he's a huge factor, but you're telling yourself that. Oh, my God. Because Rupe, you know, who knows, you're like, just get Zuk back in. Yeah, we're kind of buzzing. And he'll make an impact because all you need is a 1, 2 here, there, and make huge impacts in the playoffs four minutes into the game. I don't even know if he had a shift before that. I bet he had one, but it's like his second shift. Kind of a terrible. I don't even know what the fuck the Stars were doing. It was like. It was as if they were doing a. Like a quick up, but there wasn't a Wild player standing right there. Yeah, Like Moose is halfway up the ice, which I'm sure he was supposed to be, but it's like there's someone in between. Dude, it's like when football, when a quarterback throws one, like a deep cross and there's a linebacker standing right there and he's like a. And I'm like, did you not see that guy? And it's like, maybe. Maybe he literally didn't see him. But whoever shot that puck up the wall literally did not see the Wild standing there. Yeah. And they just snap it back into Krill. Of all fucking people, alone in front of the net. Kind of a good save by Otter. And then. Actually, I thought it was a. An accidental pass by Krill, but on the replay, it actually does look like he slides that over to Zuk after. After the scramble.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
And then, bang. Smash it in. Not like Zuk had to do a ton there. But how sick does that feel when you come back and you're just like, boom, Go.
Dan Powers
I mean, he. He is. Must have been chomping at the bit to get into this series and to come in and score instantly in the first period.
Chris Powers
How much did he play?
Dan Powers
It's also just such.
Chris Powers
Do you remember a.
Dan Powers
Oh, I don't know. Check, though. Check those stats. It's just such a good feeling when you. When the people are talking about it.
Chris Powers
16 minutes. So, yeah, just to get back in and be like, yeah, dude, three apples in that game, too. Like, three apples in game one. Dead.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
And then, bang. Goal. First, second back I mean, God damn, dude.
Dan Powers
Like, he is such a factor for this team. It's fucking incredible.
Chris Powers
Absolutely insane.
Dan Powers
Did you have anything to say about the Miro goal?
Chris Powers
No. Miro tied it up on the power play. Good. But, dude, actually, I will say this. At that moment, I was like, dude, this special team situation is a nightmare because you called it out this morning being like, Minnesota's. Imagine if Minnesota's power play was going and Dallas's power play is humming, and then it was like, bang, Miro on the power play again.
Dan Powers
I was like, I would like to talk about the Boldy disallowed goal.
Chris Powers
Yes. Okay.
Dan Powers
Howard, how did you feel about that?
Chris Powers
Like, most goalie interference calls live. I was like, wait, what? Or actually, that's not even true. Some live, you can tell right away. And that one, I was like, what are we addressing live?
Dan Powers
When. When it was being challenged by Dallas, I thought they were challenging it for kick in.
Chris Powers
Yeah.
Dan Powers
And I was like, you're out of your mind.
Chris Powers
Yeah.
Dan Powers
And then as they were looking at it, I realized I put it on the story, and I didn't have the. I had the volume on the Bruins game. So I was like, I don't know what they're challenging here. And then it became clear it was goalie interference. And I was like, are you fucking my dad?
Chris Powers
Yeah. So then. And, dude, when it went to the slow mo, it was kind of hard to track because there was so much chaos happening.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
So at first I thought, because you know how you can't go if a buck if the. If the puck is, like, pinned under the goalie's pad.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
You can't just push him into the net. Allowable goal. But at first, I thought Boldy was stuffing the puck in, and with the act of stuffing it, like, Otter tried to make a save, and it just got pushed in. And I was about to be like, you are insane. Then I realized that on that stuff, he doesn't have the puck. The puck is still loose. So then I thought Boldies pushed Otter's leg, reached back, and got it, and stuffed it once Otter was moved. And I was thinking to myself, okay, that actually does kind of feel fair. But then what actually happened is he's. He swings, hits Otter's leg and mirror. Or I think it's mira. But somebody swipes at the puck on Dallas, drills it off Boldy's knee or something, and it shoots back in. And then I was kind of like, dude, this might have been. I think I might have called that one a wash and been like, Listen, dude, there was a lot of shit happening. Where did you. What did you think?
Dan Powers
I just. It's one of those ones where, again, the conversation online I find interesting because there are a couple fucking crazies who are going, boldy almost broke his stick pushing Otter in. And I'm like, why do you have to say that?
Chris Powers
Why do you have to go like, I don't know why they're saying that
Dan Powers
because it's not even close to that. And there's a big part of me that just goes, are we. I mean, goalie interference remains the most confusing thing in the world.
Chris Powers
Correct. Here's a good look at it.
Dan Powers
And I just don't know that that is what we should be calling goalie interference.
Chris Powers
Because, I mean, he's pushing him.
Dan Powers
Lindell blows over Boldy into his goalie, which is the age old thing that we're like, what? When do we start calling that or factoring that? I just. Again, I don't. I didn't take a stance on it. I was just like, how is that not a good goal? And there again, were tons of people who are like, are you crazy? Boldy assaulted Jake Ottinger. And I'm like, okay, all right, all right. To me, that is pretty soft.
Chris Powers
It is a soft.
Dan Powers
But I do get the rule. You can't push the goalie. I get it.
Chris Powers
Yep. Yeah.
Dan Powers
I don't want to fucking hear it from you or anyone. I get it. I just wish that people could be more honest about going. Obviously. As a Stars fan, I'm pretty pumped that they called that one back because it's not a goal against us. It. I get. I understand the rule and why it's called. It's pretty soft.
Chris Powers
Yeah.
Dan Powers
Why can't we just do that? The world would be a better place if we could all do that.
Chris Powers
Yeah, I think. I think that's the fair take. I think it is.
Dan Powers
It's so soft.
Chris Powers
I think it's probably goalie interference based on the rules. And all we can do is use the rules, by the way. For example, the Carolina Hurricanes getting a penalty shot after an offside I think is horrible. But all we can do is use the rulebook that we are given, which I think has flaws.
Dan Powers
I'm just so not entirely sure that I am prepared to admit or accept that that was that stick contact, lazy Susan. Jake Ottinger, like, Jake Ottinger couldn't recover from that. Like, give me a.
Chris Powers
The overhead view of this one on the Athletic does look like he's spinning around and like there's not much you can do about it. And it's like, oh, I do is right there too. Okay. I'm all right with it. You are tougher, but okay. But then after some good goalie play by both of these guys. We talked about that this morning. Some good goalie play. A good stretch of goalie play by both these guys. Boldy gets it back on the power play.
Dan Powers
Second game in a row Boldy has had. Goldie.
Chris Powers
Goldie.
Dan Powers
Matt. Goldie. Wow, he's scoring so many goals.
Chris Powers
Yep.
Dan Powers
He has had a goal disallowed and then immediately gets another one.
Chris Powers
I actually think he should start scoring intentionally.
Dan Powers
Illegal goals kick goals in every game
Chris Powers
to Cuz then he will score.
Dan Powers
Yes.
Chris Powers
Then he's like, oh, watch this. Once I get this one. Cuz once you see it go in, it's like making a free throw. You go, I've seen it go in.
Dan Powers
No question about it.
Chris Powers
He should start kicking in goals on purpose. He gets one on the power play. So two things here. One, wild power play. Goal. Huge. Not that their power play was dominant in this game, but just nice to see one go and then two. I thought that one was awful for Moder.
Dan Powers
Yeah. I didn't like that.
Chris Powers
He, like, saucer pass, sifts it on net with literally no screen. And Otter was like, whoops, yeah.
Dan Powers
And it wasn't even really like, a change of direction one or. Or like catching him leaning. It was just kind of weird.
Chris Powers
I forget who was on the call, because I agree. I was going back and forth between announcers and games and all that stuff, but.
Dan Powers
And.
Chris Powers
And I think all the announcers are doing an incredible job, truly. Yeah. So I'm not chirping, but somebody said something like, oh, you know, like the. Because Baldi's like this, right?
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
They said, oh, Boldy is so far. You got to be. You got to be lined up with the puck, not with baldy. As if, like, this isn't how everyone on earth shoots, you know? I was like, yeah, no shit. Like, he's the puck's fucking. This is how I shoot. I've side skull like this, and the puck. My stick actually angles down and then curves. And then that part is flat on the ice and it's over here, and I fucking shoot it. And it goes in like that. Watch that one again, Otter. There's no one in the way. And he goes like this, right? He knows. Like, it goes in and he goes, yeah. Oh, my God.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
He's playing so good before that. But I was like, yo. And then you have the McCarran 15 hole, which also kind of felt like. I was like, bro. And they was not bad. But we were talking in the morning where I said, yeah. You were like, he's always cracks.
Dan Powers
And I was like, I don't think either.
Chris Powers
I was like, oh, dude. What are you doing?
Dan Powers
Otter bent a bit tonight, though.
Chris Powers
Oh, dude. So that's scary. That's scary.
Dan Powers
Bit of a bend.
Chris Powers
Yep.
Dan Powers
But what a fucking dream for Minnie, right? Oh, Dan, you were heading back to Minnesota after all the doubt and all the fears and people saying that you're not different this year, and now you go back to Minnesota. Up 3, 2.
Chris Powers
I want to know, is there anyone? Because Robo. Robo ends up banking that one in, right? Which. Which, by the way, he had a couple grade A chances anyway. He was generating so much. And then, yeah, shoot or shoot. And it went in and congratulations, but after a fucking 96 point season from Jason Robertson, he has a goal in every fucking playoff game. So you're welcome. Is there anyone on the stars that I'm blanking on that is doing absolutely dick that is costing them? Like maybe a maverick? Bork.
Dan Powers
I don't really think so, man.
Chris Powers
But what did he do in the regular season? Yeah, like, Bork, 41 in the regular season, doesn't have any points. Unless he got something tonight because this hasn't updated Jamie Ben. No points coming into tonight. Dash four. And. And like Mikko, maybe you want a little bit more from right coming into tonight. One goal, four assists, and then what did Mikko do tonight? Nothing.
Dan Powers
Ye. Correct. Right.
Chris Powers
I don't know. I'm gonna see if he had an apple. He might have had standby
Dan Powers
Mikko. Yeah, Apple had one apple on the. On the Robo goal.
Chris Powers
So he has one goal, five assists for six points in five games. So he's point per game. But I'm just kind of thinking maybe you want more goals.
Dan Powers
Yeah, I mean, like, look at the way he eviscerated the abs last year. Like, you're kind of waiting for that
Chris Powers
moose to show up and then Wyatt. Wyatt's okay, though. But Wyatt had a couple chances tonight. Dude, he had that one for him backhand coming across the crease that he missed. But yeah, I mean, no one's. No one's hanging you out to dry, really. I think if you're Dallas, maybe you want more from Maverick Bourque. What did Jamie Ben do?
Dan Powers
Well, I mean, I'll tell you this, Chris. You want to hear a crazy stat?
Chris Powers
Rupe Hintz is hanging out to dry. He's not playing the 44 points of 53 games. You don't have him.
Dan Powers
The. Yeah. The Dallas Stars have also gone over 160 minutes since their last 5v5 goal.
Chris Powers
Yeah, I mean that is a problem. That is a massive problem.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
So, dude, I mean, huge win for mini. Someone in the Live this morning said. And if you're not listening to our lives, go to YouTube. We just got them up on Spotify, but go to our YouTubes. They're usually Monday, Wednesday, Friday morning. Sometimes the schedule changes, but go check them out. We're giving you everyday action coverage. Someone in the Live this morning said nearly a must win for Dallas. Obviously they can win in Minnesota, but dude, this is not good. This is not good where you've kind of been beat. I would say tonight was reasonably emphatic. Do you agree? 22 shots for the Stars in a pivotal Game 5 at home. And Wall said made great saves, but just 22 shots for the Stars.
Dan Powers
I don't mean to freeze on you here, but like I'm not prepared to call Dallas frauds and like I'm not going to. But like they're. This is too bad. Or is this two bad games in a row for you?
Chris Powers
No, but it's. It's twice at home. Game one and game five. That in my opinion, because I'm counting tonight that you were emphatically beat at home by Minnesota.
Dan Powers
Yeah, I would call this, I don't think I would call this an emphatic win, but I'd call it a solid win.
Chris Powers
You know, like this one, they were
Dan Powers
just smothering and I'm like, Minnie was all over them. They got a power play goal which, I mean we've talked all about it like that. That needs to get going. This felt like a game where Minnesota was in control of and to start that third period and get the McCarran goal and be like this, you have a two goal lead now. That felt like I was like, oh, fuck. Like since game one, this was at least the first time where I in the middle of a game, I was like this. Oh, game over. Minnesota has won.
Chris Powers
Yeah. Yeah.
Dan Powers
So like that was huge to do that in Dallas too.
Chris Powers
And the chance to go home, if you're the wild who have just been terrorized in the first round to the chance to go home and beat the Stars, who a lot of people, no one on this podcast actually, but who a lot of people picked to win and to make a run here. And. And there was a stretch. Never got that close but there was a stretch in the regular season where it was like, Dallas could catch Colorado.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
You know, they were right there nipping on the heels, and I'm like, you got pumped by the wild of the first round. And you said to me today. Because I was like, dallas, gonna have to. This is gonna be an uncomfortable offseason if you lose this series. Yeah. And you were like, Minnesota's good, which 100% they are. But I stand by. If you lose this, Dallas goes me, bro.
Dan Powers
Yeah, for sure. But it's. Again, it's just one of these ones. It's like Tampa losing to Florida in the first round. I'm not saying I think Minnesota is going to the Cup.
Chris Powers
Yeah.
Dan Powers
But, dude, they're just like. It's. I don't know, man.
Chris Powers
We.
Dan Powers
You know what pisses me off? And I'm not saying you piss me off.
Chris Powers
You.
Dan Powers
We spend all year talking about how much we hate the playoff format because this exact thing happens, and then when Dallas loses, we go, fucking pathetic.
Chris Powers
First round loss, Dallas.
Dan Powers
And I'm like, what? They're playing one of the two best teams in the league. Anyone can win this fucking series. So we. We did talk about it this morning on the live. I think a first round loss hurts Dallas more. But if you're going to sit and huff and puff and be like, this is so bad for Dallas, I think you're a boner.
Chris Powers
I don't. And I know you're not saying.
Dan Powers
Yeah, I'm not saying you.
Chris Powers
I think, though. And I'm about to get chirped by Minnesota fans. But in these first round matchups that are. Dude. And we said this morning, they're a gift. I'm not mad about this. It's awesome. But there are teams, I guess. Like, the thing I keep pausing on is. Is the Rupe injury and Sagan, too. But just like, the Rupe thing is really impactful. But in this scenario this year, I think Dallas should. I think Dallas should beat Minnesota. I think they should go. This first round matchup is a tough bid because of the format, but it is what it is. We got to beat him eventually. And I'm saying Dallas is the one that should go, fuck, we are pissed because we got our season cut short and shouldn't have. Whereas if Minnesota loses to Dallas this year, they go, fuck, that is a shit matchup in the first round. But it is what it is. They're better than us. They were supposed to beat us. That's all I'm saying. I'm thinking, I'm Saying. And I think you're kind of agreeing because you were saying Dallas should be. Dallas would be more mad. But I'm like, dallas should beat this Minnesota team. Minnesota is awesome and fun, and they should give them fucking. A brutal seven games. But Dallas should win. And I picked Minnesota because it's just like, you know, something's happening. But I'm like, Dallas right now is about to go home and go like this. We are fucking idiots. Yes.
Dan Powers
Yes, I am. I am with you. Like, again, I think that this Minnesota team's fantastic, but Dallas will be hurt by a fresher loss.
Chris Powers
But, dude, it'd be sick for the Wild.
Dan Powers
Huge for the Wild.
Chris Powers
Dude, I like. You know what, man? Also, this sucks for Dallas fans, who I have a great affinity for.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
And they've been to three straight Western Conference finals, which is taxing on a team, but on a fan base, too. Very taxing. Long deep runs. Don't get anything out of it. And they. I feel as though they deserve better. They deserve to get one. And they lost in a cup not too long before that. But the Wild fans deserve a crack at this. You had three straight fucking chances to do something and you did not shit. So get off the pot and let the Wild take a dump. You see what happens?
Dan Powers
You see the frustration in Hasken. And after that empty neck. By the way, Kirill Caprize have most playoff goals in franchise history.
Chris Powers
That's cool.
Dan Powers
Isn't that crazy, though?
Chris Powers
Were you about to say Wild?
Dan Powers
No.
Chris Powers
Yeah, you were. I saw you.
Dan Powers
I was gonna say weird.
Chris Powers
Oh, I saw J. I saw the W forming.
Dan Powers
The W was for me. To me, it's like, I feel like the Wild have been around longer.
Chris Powers
Yeah, they have.
Dan Powers
Like, when Kirill is your all time leading playoff goal scorer, I'm like, what?
Chris Powers
Who is second?
Dan Powers
Eric Sinek. Is that true? I don't know. No, it's probably fucking Koivu.
Chris Powers
That's what I was going to say.
Dan Powers
But like, it's Wild.
Chris Powers
Playoff.
Dan Powers
There you go. I said wild there for you that time.
Chris Powers
Thank you. I knew you were going to say it the first time, too. Oh, dude. I know who it is. We should have got this. Who? Sometimes this thing won't load. Which is so fun. But it is Gabbard or.
Dan Powers
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The. So, dude, right off the bat I was surprised at Ingram. I think we both said jari. Yeah, but I. Well, it was funny. I was like, maybe it is Jari. But I kind of said I would have gone to Ingram because he felt like the guy who was doing it for you at the end of the regular season there with dry saddle hurt. And he felt like the guy that went, how did you get Ingram? Because Jari is not the answer. But all of a sudden you got this dude who you pulled off the fucking trash heap and he's gonna win you a Stanley cup. But in game four or three, I did feel like Ingram just wasn't finding the puck. Literally. I mean, throwing fucking hand grenades from the blue line and Ingram's taking fucking cover. Instead of catching the goddamn thing, biting it off and throwing it back. I guess it was already bit by Truba. But. But you know what I mean, Throw it back.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
And he was just letting it explode in the back of the net. So I was kind of surprised. Yeah. That they went.
Dan Powers
Ingram McDavid was also a game time decision.
Chris Powers
Exactly.
Dan Powers
He said To Liam after the game, McHugh was like, how close were you not playing? And Connor was like, never, Never close. A lot of guys are digging in. It was never a question. But I do think that that's comp confirmation that dudes are battling on this team. What? Did you see Kreider fucking plant one right in Leon's back?
Chris Powers
Yeah.
Dan Powers
Didn't like that.
Chris Powers
Did not like that. I like those. I don't like. I did not like that. What. What is the rule there? Because I know in the NFL you can get fined and that people cheat anyway, but you can get fined if you don't accurately list the injuries. You know, you have to say, this person is questionable. This person is doubtful. This person has this injury.
Dan Powers
Why?
Chris Powers
If Conor was truly like. I mean, Conor knows what he's dealing with. Obviously, so does the team. Yeah.
Dan Powers
He didn't skate this morning.
Chris Powers
Right. But if Conor thinks to himself, I know my body and I know the pain I'm in, I definitely don't want to skate this morning to preserve that, but I will be able to go tonight. I know this.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
Then is there some obligation for the Oilers to say game time?
Dan Powers
I don't know.
Chris Powers
Because if there isn't, I'm like, why did you say that, dude? Even if he, like. Even if he was game time, do you have to say that?
Dan Powers
I don't know.
Chris Powers
Just be like, bang, Connor's not playing. Surprise.
Dan Powers
That's a. That's a dash one for us. Because, like, I don't know that. I don't know that rule or that designation and what the need is, but, yeah, it does feel like a weird thing to announce, especially if Connor's like, I'm playing.
Chris Powers
Maybe it's. This says, no, NHL teams are not required by league rules to disclose specific injuries or designate players as game time. As game time decisions. Yeah. Weird that I'm like, why did you say that? I don't know.
Dan Powers
Weird to weird to say it, but
Chris Powers
maybe, maybe, maybe fire. Can I tell you something?
Dan Powers
Yeah, maybe.
Chris Powers
Usually the reason NHL never reveals injuries is because you don't want guys to target it out.
Dan Powers
There you go.
Chris Powers
If I'm dealing with an ankle, you someday you're gonna get hacked all game. Right? Like that.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
That's a huge part of it. Maybe. The Ducks. No playoff experience against this powerhouse. Been there. The Ducks are riding high. They're flying V all over the place. Dude, look at us. Up 31 against the defending Western Conference champs. Everyone saying we couldn't beat the Oilers. Up three one, flying V& Then the Oilers go, mcdavid might not even play tonight. And they go, we did it, boys. We fucking did it. McDavid might not even play. Oh, my God. Get the beers going early. And then he goes, psych. I am literally fine. You. You got over your skis Flying V. More like Duck hunter dead.
Dan Powers
I loved every bit of that.
Chris Powers
Me too.
Dan Powers
Are you a little upset that it got ruined by your phlegmy throat?
Chris Powers
Yes, but I'm sick.
Dan Powers
Me too, dude. Don't think I didn't hear that. Your gargly phlegmy throat that you tried to subtly clear in the middle of your soliloquy about the flying V and
Chris Powers
Connor, we're burning it at both ends.
Dan Powers
I know. I get it.
Chris Powers
I'm up early. I'm up late. I think they announced he was game time when he wasn't, so the Ducks would get overconfident because they were flying van. And then they thought, wow, McDavid's not even playing. We've already won.
Dan Powers
I don't hate it. I'll tell you. This was just a classic Oilers of the last year, three years performance where we think they're dead. And they win a game that they have no business winning. And a lot of people are online. A lot of people are saying that the Ducks shouldn't have won this game. And I. I will say they had one good period.
Chris Powers
The Ducklings?
Dan Powers
No, the Edmonton Oilers. Oh, oh, oh. They kind of had one good period. They came out hot. They scored three goals in the first 10 minutes. Dostahl gets fucking yanked.
Chris Powers
Yanked. And then leaky all series.
Dan Powers
He has been leaky all series, which is so unacceptable. Like, look at the goals that have been scored by. By both teams. And if you are the Ducks who look at dostahl as a blue chip goalie, you're like, really, pal? Really? And like, Connor's not even really scoring, dude.
Chris Powers
And the Ducks, who was on their team that they traded? Gibber. Thank you. Yeah. I'm like, you did this. You went to the guy being like, you're the guy. We're gonna make playoffs.
Dan Powers
And he's good.
Chris Powers
Oh, 100%. But I'm like, we did this so you could make playoffs and not give up a thousand goals a game.
Dan Powers
And he's like this, well, I'm gonna give up four every game.
Chris Powers
How's four sound?
Dan Powers
What do you think about that?
Chris Powers
Tonight would have been a thousand.
Dan Powers
And listen, it's such a tall order for this Ducks team to be like this. So we're going to go down by two Goals or more every game. And we're gonna battle back somehow and win. You can't do that every time.
Chris Powers
So for us, every game.
Dan Powers
Oh, yeah. And to be 10 minutes into this game, down three nothing. I was like, are you fucking dipshit serious? Like, are you actually serious?
Chris Powers
Dude, it was.
Dan Powers
Thank God this game was in Edmonton, because if this, when you're up 3:1, if this was your performance at home, it would have been so unacceptable. But by the looks of things, you're going to go back to Honda and you're going to give up the first goal again.
Chris Powers
Yes, you are.
Dan Powers
And it's going to be like this. Okay, here we go.
Chris Powers
Certainly are.
Dan Powers
So what's frustrating is you give up these three goals, you then yank them and put in Huso. And then you play a 11 game after that. And I'm not saying you missed an opportunity here to fucking score three other goals and tie this four. Four. That would have been too tall of a task, especially with all of the other things that you've done. But I. I do think you're a little frustrated if you're the Ducks, that this was the performance you put out. Because really, you had a bad 10 minutes. You had a bad 10 minutes and then you played it very even for the rest of that game. And you're kind of like, oh, damn,
Chris Powers
dude, we just fell apart for 10
Dan Powers
minutes to start this game. Like, how did you come out that flat?
Chris Powers
Well, let me ask you this, because this is something I wanted to say too. Coach Q definitely said this, but maybe this is the first time this entire series the Ducks playoff inexperience has risen. Has. Has shown its ugly mug. Yeah. Because in this game with the defending two time defending Western Conference champions and two of the five best players alive on the ice.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
At home with their backs and life. Backs against the wall. Life's on the line. Elimination game. Yeah. All you have to do, not all you have to do, but the number one thing you have to do is rip this mic off. Is weather.
Dan Powers
Oh, my God. Did you. Let's go one time. How did you even do that?
Chris Powers
Is weather the first 10 minutes? Yeah. Like literally. And again, I know Q said this, but he went just weather the first 10 minutes. They're going to come out, the rink is going to be exploding. They are going to be flying. Play 10. Don't even try to score. Play the first 10 minutes. 00. And then we play them tight. And then we are in a game and instead you have three goals down your fucking eye socket in Nine minutes on six shots, dude.
Dan Powers
Two minutes in POD goals and scores.
Chris Powers
That line has been incredible.
Dan Powers
Yeah, I love pod.
Chris Powers
Seriously.
Dan Powers
Such a good player.
Chris Powers
That line deserves so many flowers in a situation where McDavid is clearly dinged up.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
And getting a lot of attention out of the top line. I know they've jumbled a little bit, but POD is fucking do it. Doing it. And KK doing it in Leon. I can't even begin to. To say enough good things about Leon. What a stallion. He should be in the next Budweiser commercial as one of those Clydesdales. And they just strapped the beer wagon to him and he just goes down Main street in a gentle snow. That's what he should do. He is a horse, dude. Holy wow.
Dan Powers
Agree completely.
Chris Powers
It's insane.
Dan Powers
Yeah, he's, he's a, he's a monster. But that, that's, yeah. The start of that game, you just get three quick goals and it was over.
Chris Powers
Doe still comes out, plays the ball.
Dan Powers
It was also. I don't know how you felt. It's easy to say this after the game, after they win, they went up three nothing. And I, I, I mentally, I turned the game off because I was like, this one's over.
Chris Powers
Yep.
Dan Powers
I was like, anaheim cannot claw back in this one. And if they had, I would have been utterly shocked. But with their backs against the wall, getting three goals in 10 minutes, I was like, yep, that's that.
Chris Powers
I have something to say. I've said this to you already, but I'm gonna say it on the airwaves. The. It got way better because when I said this to you, it was 4:1, and it was right when the 4:4th one went in and it was no goals again after that. And I mean, the shots finished what, 30 to 20 ducks. So they did, they did. They didn't roll over. I mean, they got pounded.
Dan Powers
But no, and this is what I'm saying, like, they, they outplayed them. That's the crazy thing. There was a lot of great possession, a lot of in zone time.
Chris Powers
And in the third, I thought, yeah,
Dan Powers
I think the second, too. And yeah, just. I'm telling you, you're a little frustrated that you just came out so flat.
Chris Powers
For sure. I'm gonna look at thought. Yeah, because see, look at this, dude. 12, 6 Edmonton shots in the first, 11, 5 Ducks in the second, 13, 3 in the third. But you always are obviously playing a little like, whatever.
Dan Powers
Oh, they were playing to just protect. No doubt.
Chris Powers
So anyway, what I was going, which
Dan Powers
was smart, to be clear, what I
Chris Powers
said to you when it went 4:1. And I still stand by. Anyone that listened to the live. This is what I'm talking about. I had said that I think the Mammoth can rally a little bit internally around the fight they showed after going down to Vegas 3 nothing in a game that everyone kind of was saying, oh, Vegas is going to win. They're not going to let this series run away from them. And then Dan was saying that the Mammoth should actually be pissed because they did go up four three and then puked that up. I will even concede the puke, which I wouldn't concede this morning, but I will even concede that is a puke. If you, if you come all the way back and take the lead. But, dude, I still stand by and you still disagree, which is fine, but I still stand by. I would so much rather lose like the Mammoth did than the Ducks did here, because this makes me go now, here, now, now they're going.
Dan Powers
And.
Chris Powers
And again, when I said that to you, they had just gone 4:1. So I felt like it was going to finish like 5, 6, 1.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
And I was like, you just can't have this. You can't have this moment where you go, now they're. Now they're pissed. Yeah. And now we're dead. Whereas the Mammoth certainly are going, I know we lost this game, but like, I am not scared of Vegas.
Dan Powers
I think I was speaking more situationally to the Mammoth rather than in general. So with this comparison, I agree with you. And especially, dude, because this is a lot of PTSD for teams of the last three years. You just. You cannot give this Oilers team life.
Chris Powers
Yeah.
Dan Powers
You simply cannot.
Chris Powers
This team clawed back from three fucking zero in the final and lost game seven on the road by a fucking
Dan Powers
goal to the back to back Stanley.
Chris Powers
When they had McDavid alone in front of the net, like, that was as tight as it comes. When they were literally statistically dead. Like, this never happens. And they did it. This team is the scariest team in the playoffs. Full stop, dude. Full stop. And a lot of that's. I mean, pretty much all of it's McDavid and Drysdale. But I'm just telling you, this team. Actually, that's not fair. A ton of it is McDavid and Draisaitl, but this team surrounding them, this core has been here. They've done these runs. They know what it takes more than anyone in the playoffs.
Dan Powers
Boosh is getting points all over the place. Nuge is getting points, points, Pod Cap, they're. They. They're scoring. Yep. And you know, here we go. Big win. Big win.
Chris Powers
Yeah. Like you haven't slowed them down once, right?
Dan Powers
Not at all. Fucking not at all, man.
Chris Powers
Score a ton.
Dan Powers
Not at all. Yeah. And the. I. Yeah. I just think that this was a. This was a big win for the Oilers of the right now. I think Connor walked into that locker room and goes, this team sucks.
Chris Powers
Exactly. Exactly.
Dan Powers
This Ducks team fucking sucks. How the fuck are we down three to one? That's what I'm fucking talking about, boys. Let's shove it up their hoop two more times and embarrass the fuck out of them. That is what he's saying in the locker room.
Chris Powers
Yeah.
Dan Powers
And if you're. I think he should be saying that. I'm not saying. That's me saying. I think this Ducks team sucks. But when you are. You're giving up an average of four goals every fucking game, it's like, yeah, dude. They have every right to think that they can easily come back and win three straight. They just won one, and it was
Chris Powers
the biggest win of the series so far. Yeah. And I think. Okay, I got two things. One, I think the Ducks should be happy that they aren't in a Buffalo situation. And what I mean by that is they just lost game five at home. Yeah.
Dan Powers
Now you're heading back.
Chris Powers
And now you're heading back because, like, right now Buffalo has to go. We need to steal this one in Boston.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
Where they've been bet where they've been shitty, so they're gonna be pissed or we're coming back for Game 7. And even though that means a home Game 7, it's just still a lot of. It's a lot of mental shit. At least the Ducks are coming home for game six, because if they just puked this at Honda and then we're going to Rogers for game six, I would already. I would already buy my tickets to game seven because I was like, there's no fucking universe. So they got. They got one shot at this in Honda to close it out.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
But I mean, is anyone. If this goes seven back at Rodgers, is anyone going. I actually think the Ducks can straighten this out.
Dan Powers
No, dude. And I'll also tell you this. Doe Stahl has been the worst goalie of these playoffs. Yeah.
Chris Powers
Is that true? That probably is.
Dan Powers
Statistically, with the new analytics and the goals saved above expected. He has a minus 3.1 goal saved above expected, which is the worst of any goalie in these playoffs.
Chris Powers
Yeah, I mean, dude, he is.
Dan Powers
He has 15 goals against, dude.
Chris Powers
Eight six, four, four, three, two.
Dan Powers
So rude to laugh like that. It's rude.
Chris Powers
That is insane. I'm only laughing because he's not that bad. Like, that is insane.
Dan Powers
It's so bad, man. And what. Here's what's crazy. If you lose this game at home, I would guess you are losing by giving up four goals or more.
Chris Powers
Yep.
Dan Powers
And at that point, I'm dead ass. I would start who. So in game seven.
Chris Powers
Really?
Dan Powers
Yes.
Chris Powers
Yep.
Dan Powers
Yes.
Chris Powers
He played great. He played great.
Dan Powers
I would be like, buddy, you are a fucking liability. Like, it's so bad.
Chris Powers
I hate it because I love the
Dan Powers
guy and I think he's a great goaltender, but I would be like. It would truly be one of the craziest conversations you've ever had. You would look at him and you'd go, do you think you should start?
Chris Powers
4, 3, 2.
Dan Powers
Do you think that you should be starting this game? We were just up three, one, and then you gave up four goals a game.
Chris Powers
Oh, my God.
Dan Powers
I honest to God don't think you can start him. If you lose game six and he gives up, honestly, three or more goals, I think you have to look at him and go, ron, I have to fire you.
Chris Powers
Yeah, dude. Connor Ingram is 8, 7. 8, 3, 7, 7. After tonight, after, like, a 19 save.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
In 20 shots and. And one goal. Like, those two were probably the two worst goalies.
Dan Powers
They. They are literally the two worst goalies each other. This is why we keep calling it a beer league series.
Chris Powers
Holy.
Dan Powers
It's because these two guys are just not playing.
Chris Powers
That is so insane. Dude. Here's another one. If that. Yeah. I'm terrified. If I'm a Ducks fan. Killer scored again on the power play, which is insane.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
And I don't know how I haven't clocked this, because I've been watching all these games because they're so fun. The Ducks are 7 for 14 on the power play. If that dries up at all. Like, which is. Which is unsustainable. Like, they are on a solar nuclear path. Yeah. On the power play. If that returns to the norm. Like, dude, I don't want to find this, doc. Remember, I did their power. Like, I think they had a horrible power play this year. If they return to horrible power play status, they might never score again.
Dan Powers
I know.
Chris Powers
So they're dead.
Dan Powers
All I know is this. We have not had our Chris Kreider game yet.
Chris Powers
Yeah. You promised me I'd get one.
Dan Powers
And I'll tell you what, dude. Do you know when they play next?
Chris Powers
What day is it? I bet they play Thursday.
Dan Powers
Guess whose birthday it is on Thursday.
Chris Powers
Cried.
Dan Powers
Yes.
Chris Powers
That is gas.
Dan Powers
I don't know for sure if they play Thursday.
Chris Powers
I'll tell you they do. They do.
Dan Powers
Would be a good day to have
Chris Powers
a day, not a bad day to have a day.
Dan Powers
It'd be a good day to show up as a great playoff performer, which he is.
Chris Powers
I just think it could go seven, dude. I think the. I think have so much grit.
Dan Powers
Oh, I feel so certain and confident that it is going seven.
Chris Powers
Game seven will be numbered, which is
Dan Powers
why I hammered that bet today at +325.
Chris Powers
Oh, yeah, yeah, that was gas.
Dan Powers
And if it goes seven, you bet your sweet britches that the Oilers are winning, dude.
Chris Powers
I think you, the betting public will be on them in a big way. Yeah.
Dan Powers
All right, this episode is out this morning, Wednesday. So tonight we got Habs, Bolts, we got Flyers, Penguins, big game six. And we've got big game five, Mammoth Golden Knights. Can't wait for it. Unbelievable. Two electric game fives.
Chris Powers
Do you think Flyers pick go seven?
Dan Powers
Yes.
Chris Powers
Do you think Oilers, Ducks go seven? Yes. Do you think Sabers, Bruins go seven?
Dan Powers
Yes.
Chris Powers
Seven's wild, dude. Three game sevens. It's my favorite number seven, seven, seven. Jackpot. Dude, that's gonna be insane.
Dan Powers
Can't wait. That's it for us guys during these playoffs. Please do us a favor. Leave some five star reviews. Spotify, Apple, where you get your podcasts. Subscribe to the YouTube, send the YouTube around to YouTube. We've got some great merch on the store right now for a bunch of teams. More shirts coming, support in all those ways. We love you guys so much. Can't do any of this without you. You are the best. Playoffs are the most fun time in the world. Giving you daily content. Keep tuning in. You are all the best. And while you tune in, gotta take care of yourself.
Chris Powers
And you gotta do one other thing.
Dan Powers
Skate hard.
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Host: Almost Friday Media
Date: April 29, 2026
Duration covered: [00:00–69:45] (content before ads and wrap-up)
This late-night episode of Empty Netters features hockey brothers Dan and Chris Powers unpacking the latest NHL playoff action, with a primary focus on the Bruins’ dramatic OT win over the Sabres, the wild energy around Swayman and David Pastrnak (“Pasta”), the passionate (sometimes delusional) nature of playoff fandom, and significant coverage of the Dallas Stars–Minnesota Wild and Oilers–Ducks series. The Powers brothers blend sharp analysis, genuine fan perspective, and their trademark snappy banter, exploring everything from the impact of playoff nerves to conspiracy theories about league officiating and wild in-game moments.
“Sway is the best player on the Bruins in this series. Yet another game where he played fucking phenomenal.” – Dan Powers ([20:12])
“If there’s ever been a time where I believe the Bees could come all the way back, it’s after a win like that.” – Dan Powers ([03:26])
“He was getting behind the D a lot today. Shelly calls it anticipation. I’m not mad about it, dude.” – Chris Powers ([08:26])
“The implication is … the league needs the Bruins to win this game, so just look the other way if Pasta’s offside.” – Chris Powers ([07:28]); Dan and Chris mock this idea with playful sarcasm.
“Great goal. Great goal. Really pretty goal … Pretty good play by Lion. Almost got back for that.” – Chris ([10:38])
“Buffalo fans are my favorite fans on Earth. They’re so funny, incredibly self-aware, they potty so hard.” – Dan Powers ([12:30])
“We didn’t spend any time talking about if Pasta was offside because he’s so clearly onside … If you can look at that photo and go, ‘that is offside’, that’s enough internet for me today.” – Dan ([25:22])
“We’ve seen in playoffs now so many people devolve into the shittiest versions of themselves ... in the name of Christ, dude. In the name of their Lord and Savior—their dude.” – Dan ([04:39])
“He is must have been chomping at the bit to get into this series and to come in and score instantly in the first period.” – Dan ([31:21])
“Goalie interference remains the most confusing thing in the world … That is pretty soft.” – Dan ([34:53–35:39])
“Since game one, this was the first time I was like, oh, game over—Minnesota has won.” – Dan ([43:22])
“The Dallas Stars have gone over 160 minutes since their last 5v5 goal.” – Dan ([41:16])
“When Kirill is your all-time leading playoff goal scorer, I’m like, what?” – Dan ([47:10])
“All you have to do … is weather the first 10 minutes … and instead you have three goals down your eye socket in nine minutes on six shots.” – Chris ([58:22–59:07])
“Leon … should be in the next Budweiser commercial as one of those Clydesdales … What a stallion.” – Chris ([59:18])
“He has a minus 3.1 goals saved above expected, which is the worst of any goalie in these playoffs.” – Dan ([65:32])
“This team is the scariest team in the playoffs. Full stop, dude. Full stop. … This core has been here. They’ve done these runs. They know what it takes.” – Chris ([63:52])
“Seven’s wild, dude. Three game sevens. … Seven, seven, seven. Jackpot.” – Chris ([69:37])
This episode of Empty Netters offers a deeply entertaining tapestry of playoff analysis and fan perspective. The brothers weave between analytical breakdowns (goalie metrics, offside rule confusion), culture-clash stories (Boston vs. Buffalo), and the emotional see-saw of watching teams fight to stave off elimination. Listeners get insight into the psychology of playoff teams, the anatomy of OT drama, and the oddball rituals and complaints of diehard fans. The show’s conversational, irreverent style lets listeners feel part of the hockey family—bemoaning heartbreaks, savoring victories, and arguing over whether the league is “scripted.” At its heart, it’s a love letter to playoff hockey’s chaos and community.