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Welcome to the Empty Nutters live. Apologies for all those fucking craziness moments, but we're back. CP how are you doing?
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I couldn't be better. This is the best day of my life.
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I love to hear that. I'd love you to not be buried in your computer the whole episode though.
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Well, you know, it was awesome when we had a desk. Oh, no.
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For those of you who didn't hear us, in the beginning of the. The first edition, I said all I've ever wanted was a couch to sit on. And here we are and CP Is actually telling me that all I actually ever wanted was a desk.
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Which is true.
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Which is true.
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You. You. Dan was like, don't get hostile. Don't get hostile. We need a desk. And I said, thank God, because then we can use our computers. And then where did we go? We did. Oh, we were in Milan. We went to the YouTube studio in Milan and they had a desk or a couch. And then it ruined everything. Yeah, you got incepted and infected and then you came back and you said, let's. Let's never use our desk again.
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That's not true. I keep saying if you listen, if you get the fat out of your ears, I want a couc for the live also, dude, because it's early morning. What's that?
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Oh, no.
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Oh, no. Oh, no. This is good. Well, this is good for me, not for you. I guess that's kind of good for you.
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What do you think about that?
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I don't.
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What do you think about that?
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I don't like it. Put it down.
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We gotta switch seats because I'm. Then let me sit there and you can sit here.
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No, put it down.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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I'm begging you to put it down. I don't like this.
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I love it. So where does that net out?
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We're gonna get you. You know those things that people have when they eat dinner?
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Yeah.
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Yeah. We're gonna get you a TV dinner table. But this is just. This is terrible. This is hiding me. No one can see my great shirt.
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Wants to see you. Okay.
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That's a really cool table.
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Those are your options. Desk or me like this?
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I mean. Okay, this guy. He. Who are you? Your. You're Andrew Klein. You need your notes.
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Yes.
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You can't perform without notes.
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That's. God. If you remember everything that happened across three hockey games that we saw, I give you a ton of credit. I certainly don't have that mental capability. I do.
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All right, folks, we are going to jump into these Games we're going to start with Boston. Buffalo. Huge performance from the Sabres, in my opinion.
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Yeah. And I thought they had an incredible. Obviously they've been down in. In the first two games.
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Yeah.
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But I don't think the literal start of the game was a problem. They got down eventually, but it wasn't like, oh, man, the Bruins are all over them for the first 10.
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Had a scoreless first.
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But I thought Buffalo had an incredible road start in this game. Like, obviously they didn't want to go down again on the road, which they eventually do. But it was like the first few minutes I was like, oh, shit.
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Yeah, they were up on shots. They were flying all over the place. It was definitely a very strong performance from them. And again. Well, I mean, we'll get into it, but lion starting was a big thing in this one.
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I was shocked.
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I wasn't at all.
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Yeah.
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I mean, what's crazy is like game one was Boston had two goals. You know, like, it's not like he was. UPL was getting shelled.
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Yeah.
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Game two was. Obviously felt like they ran away with it. They went up for nothing. But UPL hasn't sniffed.900 save percentage in either of those two games.
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Yeah. And I know it was a 4 on 20 or something last game.
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And it's also one of those situations where UPL is a great goaltender. Lions a great goaltender. Neither one of them was the guy this season. I feel like they rotated like three guys. Talking to Sabres fans, they weren't like, we have one clear number one. I think UPL is, you know, from the pedigree standpoint, the age standpoint is probably the number one. But it was very much a group effort this season. So coming into the playoffs was like, all right, probably UPL gonna start. And in that situation, it's, for me, kind of like a. If you get off to a slower, rocky start, you're gonna get yanked.
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Yeah.
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Got yanked in game two. Made sense to me that Lyon started game three. And I thought Lyon was fantastic. Oh, my God, he won. He was, you know, the team's player of the game and deserved every bit of it.
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When. Yeah, I want to get into his whole performance, but it's funny, dude.
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The.
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The like, take this Swayman play in the Olympics. In that situation, I'm like, you have three world class goalies on Team USA and anyone could play. Obviously Heli ended up being like the Lord and savior, but in my mind, I'm like, anyone could play. Sway has that crazy one go in from center ice and they kind of go, all right, we're just going to play the other guys then. I'm not saying Sway's bad. I'm just saying, like, this was an easy thing to point to.
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Yeah.
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In this case, they're kind of treating it. The Buffalo clearly is treating it the same way. Where we go, they go, we don't care what goalie plays. So UPL has that weird one from Geeky and they go, okay, we're just going to go Lion.
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Yeah.
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And in my mind, like, let's say that exact play happened to Swayman. They wouldn't go. We're gonna go, well, of course. Right. That's what I'm saying. And I'm like, I was kind of surprised that they. When they chose upl. I was kind of surprised that they were like, oh, a freak bounce means you're out now. Because even though he had a low save percentage, the three shots that went in were. Were. Rv Snipe job. Unbelievable Goal. Nobody's fault.
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Z play.
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Goal. Unbelievable goal. Nobody's fault. RV backhand with someone draped over. I'm like, those are. No. 1. Those aren't like, oh, wow, UPL's giving up bad goals except for a complete flip fluke.
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Yeah.
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And normally I don't penalize goalies for complete flukes. I penalize them for like, oh, you're letting.
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I wonder if it's more. He's not like the clear. No doubt about it. Starter also has bad save percentage also. That's happening.
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Yeah.
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It also does feel tough when you were tied 11 in the series to get the Yank.
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That's. That's. And that.
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So. So this. So my answer to you is this is clearly a. The goalie coach sees something.
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The.
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The. The. You know, the head Lindy sees something that I. There's no way that. That's like a. Jesus, you're. You're in shambles. Like, it's like a. Clearly they are seeing things that we aren't just as the fans watching. So they make a change and it works out immediately because lion was fantastic. There's no doubt about it.
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Made two awesome. Made multiple awesome saves in the first one spots to pick it up. Two. Specifically on Zaka. Yeah, that. I was like, God damn it.
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I thought three because I thought that second one on Zaka, he had like, double chance.
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So true.
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Like, Zaka had three chances, big time chances in that first period that he couldn't bury. There were a lot of Bruins fans being like, this game should be 2 nothing already after the first period. I think any Fan base can say that when you have a reasonable amount of chances, but I do think Boston had some significant high danger chances. Do you feel like the Bruins big Dogs are threatening?
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Um, well, threatening. I maybe will give them. I thought you would say quiet and I was going to go, yes, yes.
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I don't, I don't think they're quiet though because like geeky is on the score sheet. Pasta is on the score sheet. And also. So I bring that up to transition to Pasta. Pasta is a top 10 player in the NHL. I think anyone who does not accept that.
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Yeah.
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Does not watch hockey. Or is it is a dumb.
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Dumb.
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He is the best player on the Boston Bruins. He. I think there are very few players in the league who are this talented who can without question be a 50 goal scorer if they want to. Or like he has done this year. Go. It behooves me and the rest of the team to be more of a setup guy and get everyone else going like Zaka going, like geeky going and get us into the playoffs. So I'm not going to score 50. I'm going to be a pass first guy. And I think he's very much been a pass first guy this year. And there were a few plays last night where it felt to me like Pasta could have gone hero ball and instead kept that pass first mentality. And that must be super difficult as a player of that caliber when you are relied upon to do so much to figure out which version of yourself you need to be. Because there were a couple times where I was like, dude, shoot the ball. Or shoot the ball. Yeah, shoot the ball too. Hey, dude, it's basketball.
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Put it up. That's an interesting question. That's an interesting thought exercise because Pasta, in five less games, because he missed five games this year, in five less games, had his lowest amount of points in the last four years. Okay. He's on a four year hundred point streak, which is fucking incredible. 113, 110, 106, 100 on the nose this year. And I know, I like to say a point is a point. I know some people are like, well, dude, it doesn't matter. Secondary assists, like blah, blah, blah. And for me, goal scoring in the NHL, scoring goals in the National Hockey League is the hardest thing to do.
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Yeah.
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Period. You can be a great goalie, you can be a great defenseman. All this scoring a goal in the National Hockey League is the hardest thing to do. And when we had. Who we talking to? Well, I mean this is a common take. Auston Matthews has No assists. He's a center with no assists. But I'm like, but he had 65. He had 69 goals. Yeah, I don't care, like, if you. Because. Because no one can do that. No one has that ability. Auston Matthews, every time the puck. Puck touches his stick, he should shoot it. Same with Alex Govechkin, and for me, same with David Posternak. There's a reason OVI has never had this season. Maybe he's not capable of it. Maybe Poster is like, oh, I'm just a better pass than you. Maybe. I don't know.
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I think he is.
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But there's a reason OVI is like, yeah, I shoot it. I don't need to be passing 71. Yeah. And 100 points is 100 points. I am a point guy where I'm like, I'm. I respect all points equally. I'm one of those people. So I'm not.
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If you get a point, it means a goal score.
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Exactly.
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Think about it.
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But I. But I guess how people go, dude. Yeah. But the defenseman who moved it out of the break zone to McDavid, who went up and passed it to Hyman, blah, blah. So I'm not point shaming. I'm really not. So 100 points. Pasta, thank you for your service. But I am like, man, you are at your best all these three previous seasons when you had more points and minimum 43 goals.
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Yeah, I don't know. It's tough for me. I'm so big on. You gotta. I love an assist. I love an assist. I think when you get everyone else going, that's great. But I'm also so big on in the playoffs. I know you need everyone if you want to win a cup, you need everyone. But when you look at a team in the playoffs who's going on a deep run and you look at their. I mean, I look at Vegas very particularly the year they won the cup, and it's like, who is their top point scorer?
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Jackson.
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And I'm like, yep, that's exactly what you need. And it's. We're through three games, so I'm not saying anyone's not performing, but it's like, I. I stand by it. It's tough for. For a guy like Pasternak because it's like, you have to do everything.
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Yeah.
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That is fucking brutal.
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Yeah.
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But going into this game, we get Bruins on the sheet first. Tanner. You know, I thought that was a great shot.
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Me too.
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Little sneaky wrister, short side, kind of through a screen, right through the wickets. And Bruins get up. But for me, the Bruins game was yet again all about Sway. I think that first period, he's all over the place. I also want to give a ton of credit to guys like Charlie McAvoy, Hampus Lindholm. Like, there are so many plays in this game and games one and two where there's crazy scrums in front of the net, no one knows where the puck is. Sway's falling all over the place. The boys are falling all over the place. Blocking shots, getting in lanes. There's great team defense being played by Boston. But it's another period where. Or first period where you can't crack Swayman. They scored on him in the second period for the first time before the third period all series.
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Yeah, true.
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So that's great for Buffalo, but it's so good for Boston. You come home to Boston, you lose this first game, you're down 2:1 in the series. Sure, okay, fine. But it is unbelievable that three. Three games. And please God, some of these but hurt Bruins fans miss me with the people being like, well, Sway got a little leaky in that first game. If you watch that game and you think that's on Sway, I do not know what to say to you. You have three games here where Jeremy Swayman has been fan fucking tastic.
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So. And that was. That was how you were going to win.
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You feel great about that?
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Dude, I was dying because when, you know, scored, I went like this. Even though it's way been playing great, I was like, oh, man, Bruins are going to roll. Because this is just going to be one of those nights for Buffalo where we have Tanner Jeanneau scoring and the fucking Gardens going crazy. And I was like, yeah, here it comes. And then right after that, Pasta had a great chance with a ton of poise. It was almost like rant and where he's like, pump, pump, pump. Kept going. And dude, lion almost fell down like pasta pumped. And lion was like doing this thing like when you're falling off a cliff. And I was like, oh, my God, this is where to score. And credit to him because he recovered incredibly, pushed all the way across and saved him. And I was like, fuck me, that would have been epic. And then that. Actually, you know what? The Sabres did get turned it on in that stretch right there. Tons of shots. That was when Sway was really shining. But then you get the Samuelson stick break, which goes right into the. Into the RV penalty shot.
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Can we talk about the fact that there's been four penalty shots in the first round of the Playoffs, so far
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through no series has passed. Three games.
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Like when. When Q got penalty shot, I think it was game two. I was like, holy shit, we got a penalty shot. And then there's been three others. The fuck is going on?
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I have. And I have a hot take, dude. And penalty shots are electric, so I don't know why I'm complaining, but the Q1 is textbook black and white. This is what a penalty shot is. Guy has clear breakaway from defensive.
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You didn't like this one?
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This one and the Martinuk one. I'm surprised people are calling penalty shots when they only get clear at the hash marks.
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The Martinuk one was wild.
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I'm like, dude, he is. That's like, Dan, it's essentially like this. If I was coming down, this would never happen because you're too good. But if I was coming down on you on a one on one, and I. You step up to me at like the top of the high circles. Yeah, yeah. And I went like this and put it through your legs. And I'm now clearly past you, and you turn around and hook me. Then they go like this. Penalty shot. That's literally what these calls are. It's from the hash marks in.
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And I think that's correct.
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I don't know why I'm complaining again, because they're cool. But I'm like, dude, that is, you know, you don't think definition of a fucking penalty shot.
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They're in alone.
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Yeah, but you're in alone, like in the. I'm just going to. I'm just past you. That's a hook. That's a penalty.
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I hear you.
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It was crazy. Like, I couldn't believe Sam or Darlene. Right. Darling came in and slashed the out of arv. And I was like, good play.
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Also, that play was so wild. And I give Samuelson so much credit because that stick breaks. And he was like, oh. And the puck was very in. It was a weird spot between his legs and his ability to kick it.
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Yeah.
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I was like, well done. But then Arvi's read of that was remarkable.
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Like, he was just like this.
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I'm gonna put my stick right here. He was like, boom. Right on.
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I bet he kicks it lefty. Truly. And then he did.
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He got it. I mean, that's. That's checking the game notes like you read about. The guy knows which leg he shoots with. It's unbelievable. But came down. Great save by Lion. A lot of people thought he missed the net.
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Agree.
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That glance, the blocker. Great save. We have four penalty shots. And not a goal.
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Yeah. And listen, people are like, Harvey's been hot too.
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That's. That's probably other than pasta, the guy you want taken.
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Absolutely. It's. People don't score on penalty shots in the shootout very often. Like, I think people forget that, like Zegris is the Goat and is like 69. Yeah.
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Oh, no, he's not that high, is he?
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Dude? I think he is. It's actually insane. Keep talk about. Talk about how people are good at that.
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But Zach, look up what Trevor Zegras's career shootout percentage is for me, please.
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Sir, you're going to be. You're going to be blown away.
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Just get it already.
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No, no, I wanted Zach to be part of the process. Come on, Zach.
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I know it's high. I didn't. I didn't realize it was that.
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It's fucking nuts.
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But yeah, I mean, like 20, like 30% is good.
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Like, I'll tell you this, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I'll blow. Actually, I'll blow your mind right now
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to keep the train moving here. Second period. 58% Z.
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You.
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He's freak dirty boy.
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40% you. Like, everyone's like, you should score. And I'm like, well, that's the nastiest dude to ever do it. And you score less than Zus until Zeus Zeger is actually the Goat.
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Unbelievable.
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Uh, so tough one, but man, that would have been for me. Obviously you miss penalty shot. It's a big moment in the game. But for me, that would have been such a moment because the Sabres were on a several minute stretch. Yeah. Of carrying the play. They're going. We're going to break through Sway any second. And then not only were they. But did they. Could they have given up a goal, but also it was such bad luck. Like, it wasn't a turnover. Samson didn't throw a pizza. He fucking breaks his stick. I just think if you're the Sabers there on the road and you go, you gotta be fucking kidding me. Broken stick into penalty shot into gold. Now we're down two.
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So it was.
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It just felt like an extra big swing.
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Yeah.
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When he, when he got that save. Great save. And then to make it worse, if you're a Boston fan, not a minute later, Bo Byron. Bang.
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Yeah.
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And you're like, fuck. Great.
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Great play by the Sabres moving that puck around. I forget who. Who got the. The who who tossed that puck up to Byram, Dude?
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Austin, I think.
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No, it was Austin.
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It was incredible. It was Austin.
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It was a great play. Power. Got it to Austin, he threw the puck up. That one, I think deflected off Higgins.
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Yeah.
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Which is a bummer because we were talking about the kid line for Boston, and, hey, I thought Higgins had a great game. Yeah. And, like, you always hate when that happens.
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Stick in lane, dude.
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You're like, yeah, and. And I. I think Hagen's, Minton and. And Kuzier are gonna break through here. And, you know, you hope that doesn't frustrate them because, like, you're playing great. Bowen Byram is a great, great player.
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Yes, he is.
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Him getting hot here is, like. That's a great thing for Buffalo, too. But that's another one for Boston fans and for Sway. Deflection, weird goal. Like, that's the one that sneaks through. You feel pretty good about it going into the third, tied 1 1. I thought this game, Curious to your thoughts, was tilting for Buffalo.
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Oh, yeah, Right. Oh, yeah. Yep.
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They were definitely everywhere. Oh, my God.
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He was, like, hammering people. He was in the rush. Like, Jesus Christ. Dude, What a game.
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You get the tuck goal. What a cheese job.
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That also hit someone, I believe.
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Yeah. And it was just a home, I think. Seeing eye shots through traffic that, like, glance off someone are so cheeky. I love them. It's like, it's tough.
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Get it on.
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And that was another one. I'm not just glazing Sway. I. Obviously, everyone knows. Anyone who watches the show knows that I love Jeremy Swayman. But that was another one. Like, you can't. That's such a hard shot to save. It's through traffic. He can't see shit. I. I do think Boston needs to get that puck out.
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Dude, I've been screaming this literally every episode where I'm like, get the puck.
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That was a very sloppy play. They had a few chances to clear that puck out. Just like, on the stick, trying one extra pass in your D zone that doesn't work out or weak clearances. Buffalo keeps it in, and you make them pay. That in hockey in general. But in playoff hockey, when you get those. And you can feel those moments when a team can't get the puck out, you feel it on your stick. Like, you got the hands twitching a little bit. You're like, we have to score here. That wins games. That wins cups. And it's. It's that. That was. That felt like a dagger, especially when it was like. Wasn't a clear, clean shot. That's like, ah, Sway missed that one. It's like it gets through somehow sneaks in. You feel like when that goal goes in, when you're the. The five on the ice for Boston.
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There you're.
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You're doing this, and you're like, oh, my God.
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Damn it. And this is what's tough. I stand by this. I might be wrong. I'm sure coaches might be like, you're wrong.
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Yeah.
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But a turnover at the top of your zone is way worse than icing it, in my opinion. And I know people go, well, now we're ice. Now we can't change. They can get the match if they want. If they win that draw, we're hemmed in again. I'm like, well, then win the draw then. Yeah. Or you have another chance to get it out. You know, like, I'm just like, it has to get out no matter what.
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Get out.
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Literally ice it. And what blows is NHL players are so good that they trust their. I want to go. If you make a pass in the zone, it better work.
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Yeah.
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And I want to say that to them, but they're so good that they're like, that should have worked, you know, But I'm. But I'm like, it didn't, though, so it has to come out. And it. I don't know if it's a regular season to playoff mind shift, but it's like, ice the fucking puck, dude.
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Yeah.
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Icings are not actually hurting us. They. We just saw it hurt Montreal. I just did that whole thing where Coop did the line change in overtime. Whatever, whatever. I'm sure I'll be on here later in an episode screaming about a bad icing that led to a goal, but I'm like, get the puck out. We've seen enough bad turnovers in zone that have led to fucking seven goals over the last three years. Get the puck out.
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So Buffalo gets the empty net.
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Ping.
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Hit the empty net bet. If you guys aren't jumping on the empty net bet. I don't know what you're doing. Join us. We went two for three last night.
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Yeah, we did. That's.
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That's how you make money.
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Both of them broke my heart.
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We're betting 100, but you don't have to bet 100. We're betting 100 bucks on an empty net goal in every single game. It's fantastic. I want to talk about this series.
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Okay.
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Of all the series, where is Boston Buffalo ranking for you? Because I. I have some thoughts on this series and these two teams.
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I'm trying to pretend if it was in part if I was, you know. Oh, just. It was just a regular. I don't care about any team. I would Go. Let me do them all. Let me do them all.
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Dan, you're gonna rank them right now?
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Yep.
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Holy shit.
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Dallas.
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I love when you do this. I didn't even ask for this.
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Dallas. And now you're feeding Minnesota, I think, but it's low. Second Tampa, Montreal. Incredible.
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Yeah. Fireworks.
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Two overtime games through two.
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I'm horny for that. Holy.
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Then, then Edmonton, Anaheim.
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Just because it's like a absolute shootout, literally Mexican sand. It's insane.
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Jesus Christ. Then it's a beer league game. There are two beer league games. It's amazing.
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Edmonton, Anaheim is a beer league series. It's amazing.
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Sneaky four. For me, this is going to surprise people. Carolina, Ottawa. It's about to be a fucking sweep, it feels like. But every game has been extremely high skill, in my opinion, and extremely close. So I'll go that four
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and then
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I think I would have Boston, Buffalo, Boston, Buffalo, Vegas, Mammoth are kind of interchangeable here for me at 5, 6 AVs, king 7. Because tough games, honestly, but kind of boring games. And then Flyers, pit, which has been a tragedy.
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Yes. This, for me, this series is a crazy. The fact that this is the one in the Atlantic against a wild card team. Yeah, this does not feel that way.
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Wouldn't you have expected that, though, coming in like we picked or. I can't remember you said, but I was like, I think Boston's going to win this series. Like, this felt like one of those. This is a weird matchup, but this is actually very close.
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Yes, I picked Buffalo, but I definitely thought it was close. But I think I thought it was close mostly because we were talking to Marty, Alec, Martinez last night, and we. We talked a lot about how there are regular season teams and there are playoff teams. And what's interesting about that, this is going to be a fucking brutal ricochet shot at Toronto. But over the last eight or so years, we've seen Toronto at the top of the Atlantic many times. And then they lose in the first round, they lose in the second round. That is the definition of a regular season team. When you're playing back to backs, you're. You're rotating goaltenders, guys are getting hurt. When you have quick, small, shifty guys, you can be a regular season team and rack up points. And then you get into playoffs, the game gets way more physical. It gets way tighter. Certain players disappear. All of a sudden you lose a series that people are like, how did we lose? And it's like you're a regular season team. It's a real thing. Talk to any player in the league. There was a fear for some Buffalo fans and for some people in hockey media being like, I wonder what we're going to see from Buffalo here.
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Yeah.
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I am so incredibly impressed with this Sabers team.
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Me too.
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For coming into. How many guys on this team have never sniffed playoff hockey?
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Yeah, dude.
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The majority of them.
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I'd like to get that math.
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But, yeah. And it is awesome how well they're playing. And I think this Boston team has a ton of playoff experience. I think this Boston team is maybe a little heavier, too.
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Yes.
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And Buffalo is just going toe to toe. I think this series has been a blast. Like, this is really. They got pretty physical in game two, and it is a physical series, but it's not a fucking rope. A dope like Toronto or, excuse me, Tampa, Montreal is. It doesn't look like people are trying to kill each other all game. This is just like great hockey. And it's great to see the goalie battle going on here, especially in the last game. And I think if you're Buffalo, you win that game where I think you, you, you won the game. Like, if I'm looking at the tail of the tape, this is a boxing match. They win that game, they deserve to win that game. You know, they deserve to win that game. And if you're Boston, you also still feel great. You go into game four and you're like, we can, you know, yeah, we should have won game one is how they feel. You emphatically won game two, regardless of the little flurry and then tight one last night. I think this series is going to be great.
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It's going deep as hell.
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Just like both teams are playing great. I think you got unbelievable shit going on from the fans in Buffalo. Great stuff. I know you lost, but great stuff from the Boston fans last night. This is a. If you are a just an objective hockey fan looking for games to watch, this series is fantastic. Great, fantastic.
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The Bruins. I actually just want to shout out Noah Oslin because he had that great pass that you said on the Byram goal. Yes. He had the empty net goal, which was actually kind of an epic empty net goal.
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Yeah.
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And I don't want to throw any shade, but I just wanted to call it out because you asked about the big guns. Yeah. I would say when I was doing my tale of the tape, I was like, pasta is kind of the one that couldn't get that out with Tuck.
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Yeah.
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Pastas was the one chasing down Austin here and the Bruins. Not that this is on pasta, but it unfortunately kind of is. The Bruins had two power plays down a goal with the. With eight minutes left. Two. Yeah. And just didn't score, you know? And I'm like, man, those are the moments where you're like, us, dude. Like, we. How did we not send that to over.
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I'm looking at the chat, so I gotta mention it. What do we think about the. The tuck elbow to Mason Lori before the goal? I will never complain about refs. I don't do that. But that was a nice elbow.
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Yeah, the freeze frame is. Is tough.
A
Like, that is an elbow to the head. And I know a lot of Boston fans were butthurt about that.
B
Yeah, those are. There's a. No, there's a high hit I want to talk about later. That was. That was probably worse. I don't know. Happens sometimes, like. Yeah, go. That's not why the Bruins lost the game. Put it that way.
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My last thing on this series. Do you start denying power plays if you're both of these.
B
Yes. Yeah, dude. It's a joke. And it's such a vibe killer. Like, you get the power play and you're like, come on. Finally this time, boys. And it's like, you suck still. And then I'm like, never mind.
A
This is crazy. How so? Brutal power play. Both of these power plays are limp dick like you read about.
B
Yeah.
A
It's insanity.
B
It's crazy. Absolutely crazy.
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All right, let's bounce it to the next series. What do we got?
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Sends Canes another one where we switch back to the low seed. We go to Ottawa. And I guess in the reverse, because Buffalo was the one that came out. And this one, I loved the start from the sense they came out hidden.
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Actually, I'm gonna pause real quick. I just want to give a quick double wrister to Jack Quinn. Thought he was fantastic in that he was all over the place.
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Yeah. Hit a pipe. There was a lot of.
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A lot of iron in that game.
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Yep.
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Okay. Sorry. We're on to Kane's sense the gay
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that I loved the energy in that building. The. And you knew we're going back to Canada. Everybody's fired up. You knew the Brady's. Brady was gonna have the crowd, the boys going. Tons of energy for the Sens, which was fantastic. But then the stank man opens the scoring, and I gotta say something about stank. I was talking to our boy Dennis from Raleigh, and he goes. Because, you know, he's dialed on the Canes and he has his finger on the pulse of. Of the fan base. And what they're thinking you and I Love Stank, man. And we said, probably the hottest player
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on the team right now.
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We said, dude, that during that whole rant and saga what a piece that was to get back from all that shit, right? Like I was, I always loved him in Dallas. I was like, holy shit, they got Stank back. And we said, we told them on the pod. Years from now, when we look back on this, I swear people will go, that was a great trade because look what you got. It just felt at the time I'm just getting this prospect, whatever. So this year he only had 44 points, which was a career high by the way. But you know, so he's improving. But he only had 44 points. And I think Kane's fans were a bit frustrated at times throughout the year, per Dennis.
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I think we look at stank as like a 65, 70 point guy.
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Definitely.
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Yeah.
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And I'm, I'm thinking higher and I projections. And I'll tell you what, my analysts say it could go a heck of a lot higher than that.
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What do you think? 75, 80.
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A heck of a lot higher than that.
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75 80.
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75, 80. I think he's an 80 point guy.
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Damn. Hell yes.
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Thanks. He's always been a goal scorer his whole career he had 21.
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He's done nothing but perform his entire life.
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He's going to score if he's going to be. Scale of 40.
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He's also a brain.
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He. He's my new. He might be my new Cole Coffee. Yeah. Thank will get 40.
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If Kane's fans haven't seen our episode with Stank, it's a great one to check out. He's the kid just loves hockey.
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He's the new Cole Coffield because he's never. He's got 21 once and I'm like, yes, he's a 40 goal guy, which he is. So strap in everybody. But he had 44 points. People were a little frustrated. They want more. Then you look now on an 11. Go back into the regular season on an 11 game point streak. 15 points through those games. Goals in three straight, which let me just check my memory, are all three playoff games.
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That's every game, folks.
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That's every game.
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Each game.
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So how do you like me now?
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The. The Canes roster, we're going to get a lot into the. The sense here in this game too. So Senators fans, we blasted out a tweet last night being like sens fans, talk to us. How are you feeling? A lot of frustration, a lot of sadness.
B
Yes, for me too.
A
And I've got. I'm telling you, I'm going to put some lead in your pencil today. I'm going to give a nice pep talk to Sens fans at the end of this segment here. But talking about the Canes right now. I've been so high on the Canes all year long. So high on the Canes going into this series. This, I'm telling you, this roster is different. So Canes. This Canes roster is so different. And you. I look at some of their additions. Ehlers has been incredible. Keandre Miller was so good in this game that that pass on that second goal was out of this world. Great goal by Blake too. But Taylor hall, man. We need to have a discussion about the playoff performer that Taylor hall is. When Taylor hall was on the Boston Bruins his last year, he was the
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best player on the only one doing anything.
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Only one doing anything. He was all over the ice in this game and he. He made that Sankovin goal. I mean the way almost himself first dude, unbelievable zone entry, great shot, gets his own rebound, wheels around the net. Fine Stank. And he was doing that all game.
B
Yep.
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And you know you've got vets on this team like Martinook also play a performer. Obviously the All Father Slavin gonna be incredible. But when you get a guy like Taylor hall who's. We talked a lot last live about Matt Duchene on Dallas. We talked a lot about Mojo on Minnesota. These are these like vets who maybe aren't going to be pouring in so many points during the regular season, but then in the playoffs they just know how to play. They know where to be. Taylor hall is fucking doing that. And he must be arousing Kane's fans like nothing you have ever seen. I mean talking late night Cinemax. Taylor Hall.
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Yeah, yeah, dude, that shit.
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Let's do the scram, Mr. Skinemax. Taylor hall is just all over the place.
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He is a dog. And I think it's easy to go. I mean he has a heart trophy, but it's easy to go.
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People forget that he is a NHL mvp.
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Yeah, it's easy to go. Taylor hall isn't quite the, you know, a one that you would. Would have hoped. You look at some other ones and I'm like oh, whatever. And it's probably true. Like he probably isn't on the level of some of these guys. Like a Macklin Celebrini who you draft and changes your franchise forever. Dylan's been on 10 teams. It feels like, you know, but this you cannot take for granted. Having being able to bring in a guy like this and do this in the playoffs so fucking consistently is awesome. That being said. And I'm pretty sure he passed the Keandre before the Blake goal. Right? Like, he had an app on that one.
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He sure did. And it was another. It was a great play by him. And then. But God, that key pass was.
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But I got it. We got to bring up because it's worth it. He drilled Jake Sanderson in the head and he left the game.
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Yes. And that is. I mean, so that is your best defense.
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This is the one I was talking about when you were like, what about the tucky elbow? This. This hit sucks because. And dude, we have ranted and raved about trying to get the high hits out of hockey. Because it does. Because it does suck. Sucks. This is one.
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Protect our craniums.
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Protects our brains, dude. Where hall is on the forecheck, Sanderson is wheeling around the net, or not around the net, like kind of in front of the net, but he's turning. He feels hall coming. So he slows like. And just chips like this and Hall's time. Keep in mind, they're going so fast. Hall's timing up the. He's not going to slow down. So he's like. And I'm going to drill him in the shoulder. And the second Sanderson goes like this.
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Yeah.
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Now it's head contact and it's hard to pull out of that. He got. He got a penalty for me. And I fucking love Jake Sanderson. For me, I am okay with the result. Even though normally when someone gets hurt and like probably is gonna miss time.
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Yeah.
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I'm like, die. You should miss time too.
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Yeah.
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It just felt like he should have got a penalty for that. He did. And it's a shit play.
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Yeah.
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I don't know how you feel though, because I have no issue. I'll check the chat. I have no issue with any sense fan going. That is horseshit. That should have been a major. And we're fucked now because Jake Sanderson's out.
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Yeah, it's. It's a great point, dude. There are. There are high hits that feel like the wires cross and you're seeking missile and you're. You're up like this the whole time. That one did feel like a bang bang play. Sanderson kind of changed his level. Definitely affected it. So I'm with you. It's like, I'm glad a penalty was called. But I'm also with you in that it's not one where I'm calling for Taylor hall to miss time because I'm like, that was just unlucky.
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Bang bang playing the play.
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But it's just. It is always such a dagger when one of your best players goes down like that, dude.
B
Okay, hold on. That. We'll come back to it because I have. I have a question for. At the end of the series. So you. You called this out, but. Or actually I just want to shout out the Sen's goal. That was actually a crazy play. For people that are. Everyone in this live is probably dialed in hockey. But new hockey fans, the. If the defensive team, if the puck does get out, this is the one. The Canes actually did get out, but then they knocked it back in the zone themselves. That is actually not offside. Yes. And it was kind of a crazy play, but the Sens took advantage. Cousins over the bath, man. Great goal.
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It was such a nice goal.
B
Yep.
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The pass from Cousins, that was a great example of Cousins, like, not really a top six guy, but is the type of Swiss army knife guy where when you're juggling lines, you'll bump them up.
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They threw him up there. That was perfectly.
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That pass was gross. Just such a perfect sauce to the bath, man. And then that's how you elevate. Yeah, that is how you elevate. You have to bath with just a great finish. And this is a great time to talk about Freddie Anderson.
B
Okay, Great.
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Freddy Anderson has been incredible. And the way we have been riding bussy all year long, like bussy. Former Boston Bruin went down to Florida, gets scooped up by the canes, and holy shit, has bussy been incredible. Incredible. The bus has been what. What a. What a shot of adrenaline for this cane team. Another element of this cane scene. Why I'm like, they are so different this year, but they go with Freddie. They go with their guy. They're, you know, on paper their starting goaltender and he has been fucking electric. Arguably the best goalie in the playoffs, I think.
B
Correct. I thought both were great last night. After Omar pretty shaky season. So credit to him because honestly, sometimes it's the reverse with him.
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Yeah.
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Great season. And then, oh, here comes playoff.
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Omar again.
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Great. I thought both goes were great last night. Freddie Anderson, fucking amazing question for you. Because I saw. I saw a couple of this in the chat and I saw some of this online. Do you play bussy game four? Because you go, Freddie, we know that you can't sustain this. We have. We have decades and decades of data that. That by the time we roll to the Eastern conference finals you cannot sustain this level of this much playing time.
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We got Sam in the chat saying Bussy has a lucky run and is being overrated. Oh, my God, Sam. How fucking dare you.
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Is that our boy, Sam, or is it different? No, that is our boy.
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That's our boy, Sam.
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Bussy is gross, dude.
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Shame on you, Sam. What?
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He's seen Bussy look like Swiss cheese.
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What's brutal is I hate saying Freddie can't sustain this because it's acting like his skill level can't sustain it. But it's just. It's the body. It's the wear and tear.
B
It's his body, it's not his mind. I almost said it's his body in his mind. It's not his mind, it's his body.
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I don't think you can. And while I have all the faith in the world in Bussy, me too.
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And I know that this team has
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all the faith in the world in Bussy. The fear is if you put Bussy in and you lose, you just play
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Freddy at home in game five.
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Yeah, but then what if he loses and it's like, dude, you. You interrupted the flow. He. He's in flow state. Why would you interrupt the flow?
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Because you know you're going to lose if you don't.
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But you got to take it a series at a time. Dude, get out of this series. Here's an idea. Play Freddy in game four and finish the sweep and then give him. Let him rest.
B
Okay. I don't hate that because you are going to get some rest.
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Here's the thing. Freddy is obviously starting game four.
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I would think so, but I don't think it's as obvious as you think.
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I think it is. I think that there is literally not a single thought in Rod's head that is like, I play him.
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I think they're. We'll never know this, so whatever.
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But I think, well, that's what you think. Rod, why don't you come on in here?
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He goes like this. It's Bussy
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punches me in the face.
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I think. I think there's a conversation has been had in the coach's room of what do you think? And I think probably they go, Freddy, but I think they go. I think someone has said that out loud in the coach's. Yeah.
A
I don't know. It's crazy. Getting into the sens. There has been. Oh, well, we already mentioned the Blake goal. Yep. Bathurst scores. Blake scores a minute and a half.
B
Incredible pass from Keandre. Just so nasty.
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This has been for me in this series has been a theme where it feels as though the Canes are like they're not unloading the clip. And I don't want to say they're playing with their food because that disrespects Ottawa, but it does feel like the Canes are playing chess in this series.
B
Well, interesting, because my read so far, and we really only got to watch that one Cane Sands game together.
A
Yeah.
B
But my read so far has been it's all Ottawa. Like, I actually don't think. I think the Canes are playing incredibly. I don't think they're playing with their food at all. I think this is like them nearly full throttle. Ottawa is that good. And that's why every game is 2:1.
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So. But that. This is exactly my point. The score line. And it's like, it's. It feels like every time Ottawa creeps in, the Canes are just like this and get game.
B
Yeah.
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And for me, it's like, obviously there was an OT game. So, like, that's. That would be so arrogant to be like this. Oh, yeah. They let it go to. I'm not saying that. I don't think that they are going full tilt yet.
B
Yeah.
A
I really don't.
B
I think that would pump me up.
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I think this Canes team is so good that they're just. They're playing chess and they're just like, managing every game and. And this one kind of felt like that. And we'll, you know, we'll see. But I think there's another level to this Cane scene, which is scary.
B
Yep.
A
And for Ottawa, there. There was a lot of chatter online last night about fans being frustrated with Brady, Chuck being frustrated with Tim Stutzler, Shane Pinto, and I. This is where I said, like, where I want to give some faith to Sense fans. It's. It's still so early in. In all this. I think there's a lot of Sens fans who understandably compare themselves with Montreal. They're. They were on a similar trajectory in their rebuild. They. They as. They should want to be at that level and they want to be competing for a cup. But this team's young as fuck, and I think they've got so many talented players and. And some of the fans giving up on Brady and giving up on Stutzla being like you. Someone pointed out. I think it was last night. It might have been last night. Pointed out Stutzler kind of being a little lazy, not picking up Blake on the back door. And I'm like, dude, this. He's amazing. He's an amazing player. These guys are young that you've got everyone locked up. The future is very bright in Ottawa and you are playing the best team in the East. Literally. You can't be so down on getting being down 30 when you're playing the best. You're a wild card team. Yep. You're the second wild card. Playing the number one team in the East. A sweep is not ridiculous. And the sweep hasn't even happened yet. Look at last year, Ottawa battled back. We thought it was like, holy shit, dude, they might come back and take down Toronto here. Anything can happen. So don't, don't quit. And even if you do get swept, this is a remarkably good Canes team. And I think something amazing to hang your hat on is in addition to all of these young studs that you have who aren't going anywhere, Omar is playing exactly like the goalie who signed that big contract.
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Thank God.
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Omark is playing phenomenally. He made some say that game could have been out of control. All three games could have been out of control if not for Omar's great play. This while down 30 is a goalie battle. I mean like Omark is keeping you in every single game. So with the injuries, Sanderson, you know, Zoob's banged up, you've got a 30 down deficit and things look bleak. I get it. But I don't think this is one to be like, fuck. What? Like, where do we go from here?
B
Yeah, okay.
A
That's what I'm trying to say.
B
I think I was going to make a joke. Like Ottawa got these reps in last year on purpose.
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Yeah.
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Because all they did was win the home game. When your backs against the wall, easy, then you go, then you go steal a Game 5. They should have comfortably won Game 6 at home against Toronto and then forced Game 7. And the Leafs are shitting themselves. So they got that rep in and now this year they're going to go win game four, steal a game five, win the game six at home, and then Carolina's themselves. Yeah, but with Sanders. If Sanderson doesn't play, they're dead, in my opinion. And I think there's a good chance they're dead anyway.
A
Yeah, if Sanderson is. Yeah, I, if, if I'm a gambling man, I'm. I think they complete the sweep and if Sanderson is out, I'm like, oh yeah?
B
Yep. And dude, I don't want that. By the way, I love Brady and the boys to get a fucking win because they deserve it. The city deserves it. The Fans deserve it. Good question by you of where do we go from here if you get swept? Because I hear you on the. Well, we ran up against a good team, but. But I am a little like, where do we go from here? Because I'm going, why are you a wild card Two again. Why. Why are you a team that was out of the playoffs for most of the year again and then sneak in just to get ragdoll?
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I think it's because. Sorry to cut you off. I think it's because the Atlantic just remains so good.
B
Agree. I mean, you got to do something. Event Buffalo won the division.
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But Buffalo is, was the surprise.
B
I'm like, that should be you.
A
Yeah, Buffalo was the surprise. The Boston retool, which has been so expertly done, so much credit to Don Sweeney, and I have been a massive critic of Don Sweeney. The retool and the excitement of Boston is through the roof. So you, yeah, you just got to keep up. You, you have to keep up.
B
And they're not, in my opinion, they're in playoffs, which a lot of teams would kill for. The Blue Jackets are like, please. You know, but like Detroit even better. One in the Atlantic, please. But I'm like, I think if you're Ottawa, there is a little. What. What are we doing?
A
It's definitely not like a stay the course. We're fine. Yeah, but you're, you're in playoffs. You're in playoffs. You're a young, good team.
B
What do you think? What do you, how does Brady feel, do you think?
A
Because he goes insanely frustrated. I think we saw a lot of frustration from him. I mean, this is a guy who is a, he's a great performer. Just won a gold medal and was a massive part of that gold medal. And now you're in this series and you don't have a goal.
B
Yeah.
A
And you're a guy they rely on. I mean, Brady is a point per game guy that he has to be.
B
Yep.
A
And he's not doing that right now. And we know how much of a competitor Brady is. We know how much of a leader Brady is. He wants to be at that level. So he's fucking pissed right now. Yeah, I, I, you know, I think he wants to succeed for this team. I think he wants to win with this team. How could you feel anything but frustration?
B
Yeah. If they made a deep run this year, I think there's argument to go. I'm staying. I'm not leaving. But if they get swept, I don't know. Yeah.
A
You think a trade.
B
Yeah, that's kind of. I was thinking like, if he gets swept, I think he's like, Christ, yeah. Oh, yeah. I was just going to say, I was like, I had one more thing. After the first game. I remember saying, I think I got to. I wish I could go back and find it. I remember saying, I think this is going to be like Canes in four or five, but each game is going to be a like a slug fast type game. And I was like, that's pretty much exactly what's happening. This is a nightmare. Yeah.
A
And you know, to give you a little future hook to hang your hat on, this is one. Let's say they sweep.
B
Yep.
A
Okay. And in game four, it's a one goal game as well. And then Carolina goes on to win the cup. If you're Ottawa, you're like, oh, yeah, it's the.
B
It's the.
A
How about this? Take. Take a little page out of Rod Brindamore's book.
B
That wasn't a sweep.
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You get swept in this series, every game is a one goal game, including an overtime game, maybe two overtime games. You go like this. In my mind, that wasn't a sweet.
B
You got to say that, dude. You got to say that 100%.
A
Yep, 100%. So there's stuff to believe in Ottawa, but for Canes and Canes fans, I mean, you must be bricked up all day long.
B
Dan. Who's. Who's the bully that is looming? You know, you kept being like, oh, here comes Florida. And frankly, even though that Rangers team was whatever, that was a little bit of a steamroll. Your team that they ran into, when you look at this, I go, who are you scared of if you're Carolina?
A
Oh, I think you got to be tense and afraid of everyone in the east right now. The east is also, I think there's such a significant gap in the west between certain teams. The east is like every single one of these teams I could have seen in the Cup. Yep. Now, what's so interesting, I love three games through series. Some are only two. Yeah. Because right now, like, but we're talking Buffalo, Boston. There is nothing that is preventing Buffalo from winning in five. I certainly don't think that's happening. I think that series is going seven. But we can't sit here and say that that's not going to happen. Montreal, Tampa, tied one one. They're playing tonight. I think that series is going seven. I also said last episode, those two teams are going to murder each other. And that is going to be a tough round two for either of Those teams, whoever comes out of it. But let's say Carolina sweeps, and let's say. I mean, Tampa, Montreal is going to play the winner of Boston Buffalo. So they don't have to worry about that. But you're not looking at a Tampa Montreal. Whoever wins, let's say it does go seven. And going like this. Oh, they're beat up. That's going to be easy for us. You go, Jesus Christ. Those teams are nasty. If you watch that series, those teams are nasty. So I think you're afraid of everybody.
B
You're afraid of everybody.
A
You're not afraid, but you are.
B
Yes. Sorry.
A
You're. You're like, you respect everybody. You respect everybody. You respect.
B
But if I'm the Canes, I'm going, we are the best team.
A
I agree.
B
Whereas last year they were going, we are.
A
You have to have that mentality. Yeah, absolutely.
B
Dude. What happens? I think I know the answer, but if this. Dude, when does. When does everyone play next? Carolina plays next probably Saturday, I would guess. Let's see. They do and so do the Flyers. If that's Sweep. Sweep. Did they have to wait? Yes. Till the Buffalo and Boston and Tampa and Montreal go seven. Seven.
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Oh, yeah, brother. They're gonna have to wait like a week to play hockey.
B
Yeah. Like, that's not ideal.
A
Yeah. If you get two sweeps. Well, it's great for Carolina because just you put Freddy. You. You literally freeze Freddie Anderson in liquid carbonite like Han Solo and just go. Powers just rest.
B
You just sit there.
A
You put him.
B
But what if someone steals?
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He's going to be like Rom in interstellar and you're going to go like this. Why didn't you sleep? And he's go. I did a couple of stretches. You put him to bed.
B
Why? What if someone steals his mojo while he's.
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That would be a disaster.
B
Like Austin Powers. Thank God we have Bussy.
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Yeah. Who would take it? Vladar.
B
Yes. And speaking of.
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He's a villain dude.
B
Speaking.
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We're crossing movies.
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I was gonna save this for later, but top just updated top story@NHL.com Vladar injured game time decision for game four. Penguins in seven are so back, dude.
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Nate and Dr. Penguins in seven currently in a support group. They don't even know this.
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Holy shit. He injured his right arm during a scramble in game three special. They saying they're going to have to amputate, but they're talk. It's considering going one armed. Vladar. Oh, I love it. Can you believe that?
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Actually quite funny because people who know Anakin Skywalker lost An arm.
B
Yeah. That's a deep cut. That's a deep cut. Okay, let's go to King's Abs. Dan. Let's go to King's abs.
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All right. Kicking it to California Kings abs last night. Avalanche win three or four. Two with an empty netter and eight. Empty net.
B
Bet
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the abs. We got to start with abs.
B
Yes, we do.
A
Got to start with abs.
B
Talk.
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I am so proud of the Colorado Avalanche and impressed with the Colorado Avalanche. And I really, man, I think there are some people who have complained about the power play. Some people complained, complained about, like, I mean, this Kings team is, you know, has been struggling all year long. How. How do these games feel like, such a battle? I got into it with an Apps fan last night who was being like, dude, who fucking cares how these goals? And I was like, yes, that is the right attitude. Yep. Like, I think this. This Kings team, if you want to talk about their offense and their struggles, go for it. But as we've said all year, they've been very stingy to score against all year long. They've been at the top of the league in goals against all year long. They're a hard team to play, and the AVs have taken that in stride. And they're up 3 0. And it's. It's. I think it is so impressive with all the bullshit that they've dealt with with injuries in the past, the shit that they've dealt with with first round exits the last couple years, and they come into this one, you know, you're the President's trophy winner. You got the President's trophy curse. You don't know between the woods who you're gonna start. There's all the talk about, like, it, all right, we're going with Wedgwood. Is he gonna perform? Fucking A, man. This as team, I don't care if they aren't scoring that much. I mean, they got four last night, and they look so strong and hard to play against. And I'm starting with Wedgwood. I mean, this guy, talk about your first three playoff games in your career. He's been perfect.
B
Perfect, dude. He's been light perfect.
A
The goals that he's given up are all legit goals. I mean, power play goals have been multiple of them. I mean, he. He looks so locked in. He's just seeing the puck. The defense in front of him has been so good. I mentioned watching the Stars wild game, just looking at Faber and. And Quinn Hughes on the ice together, I'm like, good God, is that the best pairing in the league and so many house fans were like, did Kale and Taves die? And I love that comment.
B
Yeah.
A
But then also a bunch of people being like, taves overrated, dude.
B
Yo off.
A
Yeah, learn about that, man. He is so good defensively in Kale. Kale with a great goal last night. But also Cale's defense is just. Will continue to be so underrated. I mean, the way he just uses his feet and his skating to be as effective as he doesn't need size and strength. He is just. We've said it before. McDavid is McDavid. But like Cale might be the best fucking player in the league. It's.
B
He's the only guy of this new wave of defensive studs who are. Who pump in points that plays a level of defense that he plays now. I think Miro plays great D. I think Dahlien plays great D. I know. And Dahlie's maybe like a half step behind in that point race. He could get back in there, but it's like, it feels like the Quinn Warrensky also plays for me.
A
Cale and Warrenski are the two. Are the only two defensemen in the national who are top five in offense and defense.
B
I'll give you that. Because it feels like. I mean, I didn't watch. I was on a live to watch Bobby Orr. So I actually don't know if he was also this like shut down defenseman or if he was just so fucking good and so much better than literally everyone else that his D was like, I'll just take the puck and no one will ever touch it again. So I don't have to play D because I have the puck the entire time I'm on the ice. Yeah, but Kale feels like that level where I am really doing both things at such an extreme rate. It's fucking insane. The Kings in this game. Dan, when you're the Kings and you're playing the Aves, you just the to have a goal to have landy just shoot one off the end wall and then ricochet off your goalie and go in. It is hard to recover from that stuff when you're the Kings and they're the AVs. If you're any other series, I go, yeah, just bad break, just do it. But like when that goes in, you're
A
like, chris, that you. You could not think of a worse start for the Kings.
B
Correct.
A
When you're struggling to score goals. But Anton Forsberg, by the way, stick taps to him like he's been.
B
Dude, what a decision. I know you play the hot Goalie. But I was like, dude, Kemper played for this AVS team. He's a Vezna finalist. Whatever.
A
Yeah.
B
No regerts.
A
No regrets.
B
He's been fucking.
A
He's been fantastic. He's also seeing the puck like crazy. But to play him and for him to perform this well has been amazing for the Kings. It's why every game has been a battle or a big part of why every game has been a battle. But I. You can't really think of a worse start that it's like you give up the lead early and it's a goal like that.
B
Yep.
A
That just fucking blows.
B
Oh, dude.
A
And you're now chasing not a team you want to be chasing against at fucking all.
B
It was a nightmare, dude.
A
It was a nightmare.
B
So then, dude, when the. The Kings get one back, this was actually hilarious. Cube gets one out front. It ricochets off Morsey's body.
A
Yeah.
B
Goes in. But right before that, he gets drilled in the face. I don't even know if he knew it went in at first because he was like.
A
He's like, dude, chip tooth hole in the lip. If you have a delayed penalty and then the team scores, the penalty's washed. But in this case, we had a double minor.
B
Yeah.
A
Because high stick Trevor Moore's leaking. One of the Miners in said double miner washed. But Kings go on the power play after that goal because the second minor still stands.
B
So crazy.
A
Very fun.
B
Never seen that very fun. Bang, bang play was nuts. And man, if the Kings could have scored on that power play, which has been atrocious all year and not great in the past, if they could have scored on that power play, to have that swing there, that would have been fucking numbies.
A
It would have been unbelievable. And what's really frustrating is they at times looked good, but that power play was just like nothing going. It was. It was almost like there was too much confusion. And it was like, oh, man, you guys gotta take advantage here. Couldn't take advantage. Tough going.
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A
We. Then in. In that same second period, we get the Kale McCarr goal. And it was just. Again, it's just a beautiful play by the ABS and a beautiful shot by Kale. And it felt a little bit like, oh, dude, can't let the AVs get rolling here.
B
Especially because it was like, well, it's 1:1. Even though we didn't score on that. Power plays. 1:1. Like, just, you know. Yeah, Keep pushing, keep pushing, keep pushing.
A
So game tightens up a little bit. We get into third period. It is two on apps.
B
Yep.
A
A lot of credit to a lot of guys. I thought Drew Doughty had an unbelievable.
B
He did.
A
I thought Drew Doughty was playing phenomenally. I thought Trevor Moore was playing phenomenally. We already talked about Forsberg. I thought Mikey Anderson was fantastic. He was up in the offense a ton. I thought LAF was really buzzing around Panarin. Obviously looked great all game. Q was getting in the mixer.
B
Yeah, he did. He has been all.
A
We saw a lot of Chip going on with Kadri. Something's going on there. Kadri's. We saw the beginning of the third period, Brandt Clark and Kadri kind of chirping at each other. Then saw Doughty give Kadri a little slash to the hand. Like, I think Chadri's.
B
He's a shit, sir.
A
He's a.
B
There was actually a cool moment, dude, where I was watching Clarky and I actually should ask him because maybe I'm. Maybe I'm reading into this too much. But Clarky goes. There's a scrum in front of the King's net and like, Clarky kind of grabs a person and the guy grabs him and like, the guy kind of gives Clarky not a punch at all, but just like a shove. And Clarky goes like this to shove back and it was Landy and he just goes and just lets him go and walks away. And I was like, I think that was just an all time respect where he was like, you're good. I don't need to punch Landy in the face. I know.
A
So true.
B
I was like, that's awesome.
A
Kings almost eight minutes into the or. About seven minutes into the period. Get a power play.
B
Yep.
A
And this was huge.
B
This.
A
It was a, you know, good, good penalty. Go on the power play. And it was like, all right. If there is ever a time for the Kings power play to get going, it's here.
B
It's right here.
A
And then just like tough play by Juice on the power play. Comes down two on one pass, goes in off Adrian Kempe, skates and into the net.
B
Dude, it's just such an awful moment.
A
Yeah. Twice in this game. Just absolute shit bounce at. Leads to an ABS goal. You're now down 3 1. Felt like a dagger. We'll get into later. Kings get a really pretty power play.
B
Goal.
A
And then ABS empty neck goal. Win for two. This is where I will transition into the LA Kings. This was always going to be a tough series. This team is stacked. The Colorado Avalanche roster is better than the LA Kings roster. But after Game 1, it was a great fight. And you were like, the Kings could steal some here, like they could make this a fucking battle. And I will say, this is not us being in LA Kings bias here. This does not feel like a 3,0
B
series, not a sweep. This is also not a sweep, Also not a sweep.
A
It really does not feel like a 30 series. And I will say, the boys on the Kings, it's like you're going to be so pissed. You're going to feel so frustrated when you're in this situation and you're down 30 and you're like, I don't fucking feel like it should be this way. That game in particular, I actually think the Kings played great. I think you could make the argument that the Kings outplayed the ABs in that game and a couple of shit bounces put them in bad spots. But the end of the day, your offense isn't going. And if your offense isn't going, you're just. You can't win games.
B
And your office wasn't going all year.
A
Yeah, office wasn't going all year. And now here you are playing one of the. All people sleep on this. One of the best defensive teams in the league.
B
Yes, Colorado Avalanche.
A
And you can't do anything. So it is frustrating that you can't figure it out. You can't figure out the offense. You have a great game like that where you do play really well at home and you're like, this is. This was one to steal. And some of the goals go in like that and you're just like, jesus Christ, I can't catch a fucking break. It's very frustrating. And going into game four at home on Sunday, you feel nothing but frustration right now. That's fucking brutal.
B
That sucks.
A
And I do want to say, I mentioned this last night. The say what you will about their offensive struggles, it does not take away. Like I just mentioned, the abs are so good defensively. Man, this is a cup team. Yeah, said it all year. It was my pick at the beginning of the playoffs there. I think they're going straight to the Cup. They are so good, top to bottom. Their depth is unbelievable. Marty Naches is all over the place. Brock Nelson remains one of great pickups. Like, he is just so good and he's so good defensively. They are suffocating in the neutral zone. You can't even start to get a rush going against this team. The Kings would get clear possession in the D zone. Crisp, good breakout passes. And the way they all collectively step and close their gap and Just do not let that second pass get off. And boom. Puck is turned over in the neutral zone. And it's not even a transit. Like, now they have it. It's just like they break the play down.
B
Yeah. Yeah.
A
And when you try to do a hard rim and get in the zone, they're on it so quick. Kale Taves like these got burnsy. Like, they just get the fucking puck so quick. And it is impossibly frustrating, especially for a team who has struggled to generate offense, when you can't even get the breakout going because of how much they smother you. That is. I can't even begin to think about how frustrating that is to play against.
B
Oh, yeah, they are a wag. The crab wagon. Dude, they did it.
A
The. The Chinese food in Colorado is remarkable. And the star dish is the crab wagon. That is the Avalanche team. It's fucking crazy.
B
I will say this. Pains me to say it very much. This Colorado Avalanche team, barring injury, is incapable of losing four games in a row into this LA Kings team. To anyone, probably, but certainly this LA Kings team. So this series is. No.
A
To anyone.
B
Yeah, to anyone. This series is over. And I have a couple things to say about that. One, I admit, and I might be wrong, but I admit I am currently feeling extreme anger at the Kings for losing to the Canucks and Flames to end the year. Now that I've seen the Oilers in the playoffs a little bit.
A
Ah, man.
B
And I know you don't want to lose to the. For the fifth year in a row. And, you know, you couldn't predict that. Maybe McDavid's a little knocked up here, but I'm just like, dude, you had a chance to play the Oilers, who were. Who are going toe to toe with the Ducks.
A
Yeah.
B
Who lost a home game at Rodgers to the Ducks instead of running into this as bus stop. And you're playing great against the Ashes. You're playing probably as best as you
A
can beat the Oilers down the stretch
B
against the avs, but you just can't beat them. They're better than you. And the Oilers might be better than you, too. But I'm just saying, like, oh, dude. And to think that it was a loss to the Canucks and fl.
A
I know that that does sting. And it's like you hate to be, you know, retroactively look back at those. But it's frustrating. No doubt about it.
B
That really is bumming me out. And, dude, again, I said. Just said this. Losing to us for the fifth time would also blow. But I'm just Like, wouldn't you have rather that shot?
A
Definitely.
B
And you was in your hands. That really bums me out. I also want to say this. We were in the building last night. It was awesome. Shout out to everyone in the Kings that brought us there. We trying to go Sunday, too. I do need more from the entire crowd.
A
Totally agree.
B
And I'm not totally throwing shade, but
A
I'm like, no, because we.
B
We.
A
We've come to the defensive Kings fans over and over and over again. But that was a sleepy barn, dude.
B
Sandra came to the game last night. It was her birthday. Happy birthday, Sandra.
A
Happy birthday, Sandra.
B
She was at the game last night and she goes. We get in there and we get to our seats and there's. She goes, what time's the game? And I was like, Seven. She's like, Not 7:30. I was like, no, seven. We show up. 650. And she goes, there's no way this game starts at seven. And I was like, oh, it does. And you know, people are filling in. Whatever. It's la. It's bad traffic. And then even when it got there halfway through the purse first, she's not a big hockey fan. Halfway through the first, she goes, is this a playoff game? And I was like, yes. And I'm like, what is going. And granted, Tampa, Montreal 2. Game 2 was for the record books, but still think about that rink we were in. And I was like, what the is going on? So Sunday day game, baby.
A
Yeah, let's go. There's no work excuse here, folks. And like, you know, listen, I don't think it's going to be. But there's a chance it's Kopi's last game. LA fans, if you're going to that game, you better. Come on, you better get there. An hour, a little fight. Little fight. And that is the thing. I. I am. I agree with you. I do not believe that this Colorado Avalanche team can lose four games in a row. So I believe this series is over, but it's. It's. It shouldn't be over Sunday.
B
Yes.
A
Little fight from the boys. They know they can win a game. They know they can fucking steal one. And they know they can make this a bit of a battle. And that's what you got to do. But I will say, Colorado, man with the whole landy story. Nate and Kale being so awesome. Fucking Brock Nelson being the fucking man. Our boy Ross, Colton and Wedgwood coming out of nowhere this season.
B
Yeah. So sick.
A
If there is a wagon to hit yourself to. Colorado. And it sounds so lame. Because they're the president's trophy.
B
Yeah, but they're so.
A
But they're so likable. Their fans are so likable. The city of Denver is so likable. It's like, you think about in the first round, you look at all the teams, and you're like, who would be awesome to see when a Stanley cup again. For them again or for the first time, whatever. And I'm not saying there aren't other ones. I. There's plenty. You know, you all know me. I'm the biggest fucking bitch in the world.
B
I love everybody.
A
I love everybody, and I want everyone to be happy. Sorry I'm a pussy, but Colorado is that, like, I. It's. I have such a blast watching that team and interacting with their fans. And it's like, when you see them after the. They've been through with the landy injuries, the Vals issues and all this, and now the team's here. The team's on the. Yeah, my team is on the floor.
B
Team's on the floor.
A
And they're this good. And they're. They look like such a unit. It's fun watching hockey. That good. And a. Are they good?
B
Dude, it's awesome. I was saying to Nate after the game that the. It's funny that the teams that I have the most affinity for just from a personal standpoint, would be the Bruins and the Kings, because those are the two places I've lived in my life.
A
Yeah.
B
And the. They're playing against teams that I want to root for so badly. And I'm almost like, once the Kings and Bruins are eliminated, I'll just be at peace because I'll be like, nice now. I love the abs and the savers. Let's go. Fucking right. I want to leave you with this. On this series. Power rank for me.
A
Yeah. The.
B
Which game? Let's live in a world where the Kings are getting eliminated. Okay. They could win, but let's live in a world where the Kings are getting eliminated. Power rank for me. If you're Kopi, which game you would like to be your last game? Like, I would like to just get swept because we. I lose at Crypto. I would like to get to game five. I'd like to make it to game seven. Just so we fought, but then I lose that one. So give me your most favorite to least favorite.
A
Most favorite is. Seven. Lose.
B
Really?
A
Because you actually won me over with this last night. Number one is seven.
B
Yep.
A
Because you win your last game on Crypto ice and you take the fucking president's trophy winning ABs to seven games in your.
B
Even though it'd be back, coming back from 03 and then you just still lose.
A
Yes, that would suck. Number two is six. Yeah. Because you little fight, you battle, you take it, you get two wins and then you lose. Your. Your final game is in the barn that birthed you.
B
Yeah.
A
And you are, you're there. Number three is, I think four for that same like final game is at crypto. And then I think the last one is five. But I actually think. I disagree. I think winning on home ice is better.
B
Me too. That's what I say.
A
So I think, I think it's seven. Six, five, four. I think you're right down the line
B
because I think you have to win. I want him to win his last game at cricket because he can still say bye. Actually 6. You actually maybe have a good point with 7 because if you win your last game, if you win game six, you can kind of say goodbye because you hope to win game seven, but you're like, yeah, we can't be back here this series. I might as well do a whole thing.
A
Exactly.
B
So you maybe it is seven. Yeah, I'm going seven. Five. Okay.
A
Six.
B
Four. Six, four.
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah. Okay.
A
I like it. All right, that is gonna do it for the live show today, folks. We will be back on Monday. But you know, on all the socials we're gonna be buzzing all weekend long as we watch these games. The schedule is going to start to normalize itself. So folks, we're trying to be live on Monday, Wednesday and Friday at 9:00am Pacific Time. Every single Monday, Wednesday, Friday, the pods will come out as normal Tuesday and Thursday. And if anything changes because we got travel and stuff going on, we'll always let you know. Don't worry. Have an amazing Friday, an amazing weekend.
B
Couple sick game threes tonight.
A
Great game threes tonight.
B
Skate hard.
Date: April 28, 2026
Host: Almost Friday Media
In this episode, the hosts dive deep into the current NHL playoff landscape, focusing on the Colorado Avalanche and Carolina Hurricanes, both on the brink of hard-fought sweeps. The conversation covers game analysis, standout player performances, goaltending controversies, physical playoff atmospheres, and what these playoff battles reveal about teams like Buffalo, Boston, Ottawa, and Los Angeles. The hosts deliver their trademark banter, in-depth hockey IQ, and plenty of locker room energy.
Timestamps: 02:06–27:40
Buffalo’s Goalie Shuffle:
Boston’s Defensive Core & Swayman’s Heroics:
Pastrnak’s Role & Production:
Special Teams & Power Play Frustrations:
Physicality & Officiating:
Buffalo’s Rising Stock:
Timestamps: 28:09–48:02
Hurricanes’ Depth and Key Additions:
Stankoven’s Surge:
Physical Toll & Controversy:
Sens’ Playoff Youth Movement:
Goalie Rotation Debate—Anderson vs. Bussi:
Outlook for Ottawa:
Timestamps: 51:23–70:36
Abs’ Death March & Wedgwood’s Ascendance:
Kings’ Offensive Woes:
Avalanche’s Depth & NHL Wagons:
Kings Future & Kopitar Legacy:
On Goalies & Playoff Decision-Making:
Penalty Shot Debate:
On the Difficulty of Playoff Goals:
Sabres’ Rise:
Canes’ Playoff Swagger:
Kings Fans Called Out:
On Loving the Avs:
(Segment at 21:32, 68:33)
This episode is quintessential "Empty Netters"—a hilarious, sharp, and informed breakdown of why the Avs and Canes look poised for gritty sweeps, the rise of new playoff contenders, and the drama inherent to the NHL’s wildest time of year. Whether you’re a die-hard fan or a casual listener, it’s everything great about the sport and the podcast.