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Dan Powers
Welcome to the Empty Netters podcast.
Sean Buffini
Can you believe what this has become?
Alex Ovechkin
There's a full 48 hours where I
Dan Powers
felt like I was like literally Superman. Jumbo loves playing Fortnite.
Sean Buffini
So does he.
Chris Powers
He gets on the sticks.
Dan Powers
Did TR show you the saunacycle or was that already.
Alex Ovechkin
No, I invented that.
Sean Buffini
Almost a year now that I haven't taken a body check. That's kind of nice.
Dan Powers
So we are back. We are horned up and we are going deep.
Chris Powers
Finished tonight with some chicken fingers and a few Guinnesses. Ran into you guys.
Dan Powers
And that's where this pod came to ice. Is ready. And we are back with another episode of the Empty Netters podcast, brought to you by BetMGM. We've got an absolute doozy for you today. I'm your host, Dan Powers. Sean Buffini is on the sticks, matching him in color and in Irish heritage. Chris Powers.
Sean Buffini
Oh, God. I wanted to do an Irish accent there. And then I was like, maybe people are gonna get mad about that.
Chris Powers
No one's gonna get mad about it.
Dan Powers
I think that it's what. That's an accent that no one could possibly get mad at.
Sean Buffini
Yeah. Can I hear it? Sean, say as always in your most Irish voice ever.
Chris Powers
Don't make me do that.
Sean Buffini
Come on.
Chris Powers
That's a big difference.
Sean Buffini
I need to mimic. Let me hear it.
Chris Powers
I mean, I think I sound pretty.
Dan Powers
I was gonna say he's pretty Irish.
Sean Buffini
This is my normal voice.
Chris Powers
What do you mean? Like full leprechaun?
Sean Buffini
Yeah,
Dan Powers
as always. As always.
Sean Buffini
Yeah.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
That's like the. The Lucky Charms is what you're looking for.
Sean Buffini
As always, there are to be Lucky Charms.
Dan Powers
Incredible. Well, we've got huge news. Macklin Celebrini signs his new deal. And the long awaited Alex Vechkin interview is in this epi. Don't you dare worry. You're gonna get all the good stuff. It's a beauty. We've got Fraud Watch and top hits. Phenomenal stuff. Let's jump on into this episode. Let's keep everyone horned up and ready to rock. And let's talk Macklin. I know all those horny Sharks fans are just desperate to hear this. You know, it has been the funniest dynamic I've ever seen. We have the. The Ducks with Leo Carlson. And now we have Macklin celebrating who signs four more than Leo Carlson, which you've got some splaining to do. And Ducks fans were, like, kind of torn, you know, like, we got to keep them. We got to this that the other. A lot of people being like, God, it's such a big number. All of these Sharks fans. These just like horny Sharks fans who don't even. They all they care about and just want to have sex with him. And there's like this w. Amazing win. She's like, all right. Hell yeah, dude. That's how you support your guy.
Sean Buffini
Yeah.
Dan Powers
So Macklin Celebrini signs his extension. 5 years, 18.8 mil per season. 94 sheets for the kid.
Sean Buffini
Wow.
Dan Powers
Unbelievable. It gets locked up. And the big thing, dude, this is how you get your superstar signed.
Sean Buffini
Oh, yeah.
Dan Powers
This is how you don't waste anytime. Just get it done, dude.
Sean Buffini
Correct there.
Dan Powers
Get it done. Mac is signed. Don't let it linger. Do not let it linger. So what do you think? How do you feel?
Sean Buffini
Well, let's start with the top, where as we always say, fuck yeah, Mac.
Dan Powers
Yeah, Mac.
Sean Buffini
Like, I cannot wait to see him
Dan Powers
and be like, bro, dinner's on you.
Sean Buffini
That is actually so awesome. Yeah. American Beauty, round two, dude. Chocolate lava cakes for all the boys on Mac. No problem.
Dan Powers
It's probably the last dinner I ever buy.
Sean Buffini
Mac and dude and deserves every fucking penny. Absolute mega star. Future of the league. Certainly. I don't want to put too much pressure on it, but certainly trending to go down as one of the best to ever do it. And he is the deserved highest paid
Chris Powers
player in the league.
Sean Buffini
And I am so thrilled for him. Uh, I'm thrilled for the league and I'm also thrilled that he is going to be. It couldn't go to a nicer guy and a more responsible guy. Like, this isn't a like. And I hope Mac takes care of his money. Like, Mac is golden now. Like, literally, Mack is golden and so is his future family.
Dan Powers
Yeah, I mean, listen, this is nothing but awesome. Mac is, you know, new. A new 20 year old. And he just got $94 million put into his bank account at the beginning of next year. So dope. And as if we want to get into the. Which we will.
Chris Powers
Yeah.
Dan Powers
The, you know, is what's worth it, what's not, blah, blah, blah. I mean, the kid had 45 girls and 115 points when he was 19 years old. This is exactly who you can see, like when you look around the league and you look at examples throughout the annals of history of the NHL. Who do you pay? This is the player that you pay.
Sean Buffini
Yeah, he is.
Dan Powers
He has immediately everything that anyone wanted him to be his in. In 70 games in his rookie season, he had 63 points, 25 goals. And then he follows it up the next year with 82 fucking games, 45 goals and 115 points, and then goes to the Olympics and is the best player on Team Canada. A team that has Connor McDavid, Nathan McKinnon, Sidney Crosby, Cale McCarr. He was the best player on that team. He then goes to Worlds. Is this as the same thing? Best player in the tournament? He is. He is everything. Macklin Celebrini is a true generational superstar franchise player. You pay him. It is funny that we have this offer sheet which was so much higher for Leo Carlson. So much higher than anyone would have expected. Like, if someone was like, leo Carlson is going to get offer. She did. I would have never in a million fucking years guessed that that is the number Danny Burer would have come with. And then the Ducks match it. And then we have all these questions. Does this reset the market? Well, Bedard comes in, signs for 15 and we were like, dude, that's great. Like, that is a team friendly deal. Now, given the circumstances, which I stand by.
Sean Buffini
Me too.
Dan Powers
And we have Mack with these quotes being like willing to take a discount to help his team. This is not a discount. Let me be clear. I don't give a fuck in terms of I. He deserves every fucking penny of this. He is my friend. I am so happy for him. That's phenomenal. But this is not a discount. And it goes into what we said earlier. CP with the Truba deal and the fucking nurse contract trade where you're like, you guys have all of King Midas Sil. Well, when you start giving Truba and taking on his deal and taking on nurses contract, now you're a little bit like, all right, well, like, you're starting to run out of that silver. And now you've given Mac 18.8. And here's the thing, dude, Willie boy is up for extension too. And when I look at Leo signs the deal that he signed and now you've got Cutter Gautier who's like, all right, well, you know I'm not going to get fleeced here.
Sean Buffini
Yeah.
Dan Powers
And. And we'll see what he signs. You've got Adam Fantilli who's like, needs a contract. And he is like, he sees that Leo deal and he's like, does he have Leo numbers? Does he have Leo's acclaim? No. But he's like, I don't care. I'm a fucking. I am a future star player for this team. Will is the Same way, dude. 69 games, 24 goals, 59 points. Like, will is a great future star player. So he is now like, well, Mac took 18.8. I'm not going to take, you know, seven here. Like, what are we doing? So here we go.
Sean Buffini
Yes, you are spot on. And they do. They're fucking the BC boys. They're fucking. They're fucking this with the cell phones and they're fucking the BC boys who are. I was about to say sidekicks, but that makes them sound not good. And they are fucking also stars, but you know what I'm saying? 1A, 1B. Here are my thoughts, dude. I said that when Leo took 18. I said the next wave of stars that all signed contracts will be under and it will look even more dumb. Bedard was correct. This one is wrong. And then I'm. I'm still. I was counting and you said they don't count because they already have their money. But I was counting Matthews, McDavid. I was like, these guys are going to come in under 18.
Alex Ovechkin
Yeah.
Sean Buffini
Because they know what it means.
Dan Powers
You convinced me too. Like on a hockey talk on Sunday. I was like, I actually think it might be a couple of years before we see someone. I do think. And listen, the PA is a huge issue with when all these things happen. For those who are unaware, when a player even last. Was that last year, even when McDavid signed his. The two year extension at the same number, people were pissed. Like, agents and the PA were pissed because they're like, dude, you set the bar. Like, this is good for future players. The Sid has dealt with that his whole career. And like, there are some guys who just like, I don't fucking care, dude. I just want to win.
Sean Buffini
Which is the correct take, in my opinion.
Dan Powers
I kind of agree. But as at the same time, we always like when people get their money. Yep, it is. It's not as easy as it looks, but I do still think that Matthews and McDavid could do 18 or under because they're like, we've gotten our money, dude. Like, they will now. I want to and need to win Connor McDavid for me where wherever he goes next with how desperate he is to win, whether he stays in Edmonton, which Stauffer thinks is going to happen, or if he's like, no, dude, I got to go try something else. I'm fucking 30 now. And we have failed yet again. If they don't win this year, I am a little bit like, you've got to take less, dude. Like, if you are truly as desperate for. I don't. I can't believe I just said the word if. I know how desperate he is, for that fucking guy, all he wants to win. And he deserves. I mean, I keep just back, like, I hate using the word deserve because people freak out about that. But, like, in my heart, he deserves to win. You've got to not take $18 million.
Sean Buffini
Okay?
Dan Powers
So, like, I'm sorry, right? Like, if you're Connor McDavid and you're picking your next team, let's say it's Dallas, let's say it's Vegas, let's say it's Tampa. I just look at the other guys on those teams, the other contracts on those teams, and I'm like, you cannot take 18. So I don't. I believe firmly if McDavid leaves, frankly, if he stays, he will not take 18, because I think he's got to know that is your death sentence if you do that. Matthews. I feel the same way. I'm kind of just like, if you're going to leave Toronto eventually, you must be like, yeah, dude, just like, send me to fucking Utah or something and give me 15. Yeah, and let's go. Yeah, that's what I assume will happen.
Sean Buffini
So I still will feel if, if Mac is the only. And I think I probably will. Someone will go back and. Oh, dude. Someone in the comments about the Kaner thing said his last contract being eight. Eight is awesome.
Dan Powers
Yes.
Sean Buffini
I was like, that is awesome.
Dan Powers
It's very cool.
Sean Buffini
So shout out to that person. But Dan, I will go back and look at tape. I think I probably said no one will sign will 18 of all the people. And so I'm. I'm already wrong because Mac did. But I will still feel largely right if Mac is the only one. If everyone comes in under, under 18, I'll be like, yeah, that's. That's essentially and hilariously Dan. And I'm not trying to pass any, any buck here or blame game here, but hilariously, our two stances where I went like this. Dan, you are wrong. No one is going to sign an 18. And you said, chris, you are wrong, but the only person who will sign under 18 for sure is Mack. So you don't even get to count that one, Chris. Because Mack is such a team guy and such a good guy and he's so smart. He knows better. Yeah, but everyone else will sign 18, but Mac won't. And I was like, turns out Mac is in fact the only one who did go over 18. And I was like, hey, dude, how are you boys? Serious, Some good takes from CV and dp. So I am, I am. I woke up absolutely stunned by This. I meant everything I said at the top. So did you. He's the fucking man. I couldn't be happier for him. But I will, I will say this, dude. The I know the PA gets pissed. Blah blah blah for. I think we have now a team one with a guy making 10. Right. Finally or no. Is that still.
Dan Powers
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sean Buffini
I don't even know who it is.
Chris Powers
Yeah.
Dan Powers
100. I mean like Bob, it was the pan, but. Oh yeah. Cause Chucky's 9.5.
Sean Buffini
I think it was literally just the Panthers and Bob.
Dan Powers
Yeah. Cause Ikes didn't kick in or no Ike's had been done.
Sean Buffini
I don't think his was 10 when Vegas won.
Dan Powers
Is it not?
Sean Buffini
I don't think so.
Dan Powers
Oh my God.
Sean Buffini
So my point is this. Yeah.
Dan Powers
The cap's going up and blah blah blah.
Sean Buffini
And percentage of the cap.
Dan Powers
And isn't barkov10 on the dot. I'll look it up.
Sean Buffini
Keep talking all this shit about like percentage of cap and people. Sid, when Sid took 8.7, it was just as high a percentage of the cap as 18. Blah blah blah. Here's the facts, dude. $10 million wasn't that high in the cap over the last spark off his
Dan Powers
10 on the dot.
Sean Buffini
So. And it wasn't till the Florida Panthers two years, three years ago that a team won with a guy making 10 million for the first time ever. These are facts. And all that proves is that it's hard if someone is making that high of a percentage. And yep. Winning the cup is luck. Yup. Teams that had 10 million guys were really close and totally could have won a million things going to winning the cup. But the fact of the matter is when one person makes that high of a percentage of the cap, it becomes very hard to win.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Sean Buffini
And it is surprising to me that two teams, the Sharks and the Ducks with super bright futures, we felt certainly last year. But even the couple years before that immediately put themselves in a position where the hit rate is like 1%.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Sean Buffini
If you do this, teams that have done this never win. Ever. And it just happened. And even. And the 10 that has just happened is when it be when it became less of a big deal. Like we finally passed the 10 barrier because 10 wasn't that big of a deal anymore.
Dan Powers
I know it's. I find it interesting because we're. We're seeing this new wave of five year deals which I love.
Sean Buffini
Me too. And it's like we talked more money,
Dan Powers
we talked about it with Leo. I mean like now it's this same Situation with like, good God, this fucking kid is going to make $1 billion. It's unbelievable. But you would think that with the five years being the move that they would take less because it's like, you're not locked in for three more years. You get another number, dude, you get another. I mean, Mac's going to sign three deals. He's going to be 25. When he signs another deal, which he just signed 94 sheets, his next deal is going to be like 140 sheets for another five. And that will get him to 30. And then he will sign another. He'll probably. Then he'll sign a seven year deal for fucking 400 sheets.
Sean Buffini
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dan Powers
Like you would think that when they do the fives, they would be more like, and I will take 3mil less, 4mil less because I'm getting an extra long term contract with this new strategy. But it's going the other way now. What's interesting is that was instigated by an offer sheet. And it's like, it is funny if like Danny Brier's motherfuck you attitude has like changed the NHL forever. That is going to be very interesting,
Sean Buffini
especially if he goes. If Danny Briere somehow torpedoed the Ducks and the Sharks with taking no damage to himself, like there was no punishment if Leo says no or, you know, if the Ducks match. So he just gets to go like this. The Flyers are in great shape still. They have 13 mil in cap space, can add a star. And he has torpedoed the Ducks and the Sharks. And I'm like, wow, good job. Also, it feels insane that surely there were conversations happening with the Sharks in Mac at not 18.8 until the offer sheet, to your point, you know, like, they were like, yeah, great, we're gonna get this done at 16. And then it was like, oh, no. And now I'm like, whoa, dude, let's.
Dan Powers
Let's have this conversation because I'm actually very curious what you think we, when, when this Leo thing happened. Actually, frankly, whenever this happens, we see people who are fans of said team pull out the percentage argument and they go, Leo's. You know, in 2026, Leo's blank percentage is only like 2% higher or, you know, sometimes it's like 1.4% higher than Sid when Sid signed for yada yada. I am a math and science guy. I'm a logic guy. So I respect and understand people who bring that up. People who, you know, when they're like, well, look at the math. However, I always go back to yeah, but it never works. Yeah, right?
Sean Buffini
Yes, dude, that's what I just said. I mean, it's like this literally doesn't work.
Dan Powers
It's. It's just. And again, I believe one day it will happen.
Sean Buffini
Me too.
Dan Powers
One day it will work and that'll be a great moment. But, yeah, every time someone signs and becomes the richest player in the league, that team doesn't win. It's like, Matthew. I mean, Toronto is Toronto, no offense, Toronto.
Alex Ovechkin
It's.
Dan Powers
There's. There's curses, there's. Yeah, yeah, voodoo going on. But Matthews signs that deal, they don't win. Connor signs his deal, they don't win. Leon signs his deal, they don't win. Then Nate signs his big deal, they. They don't win. They haven't been past the fucking second round, second round in forever. And dude, I just get a little bit like, you can't keep coming with that argument when it never works. And frankly, just optically, when sid signed for 8.7 the first time, obviously we didn't have the Internet the way it is now, which is the worst thing
Sean Buffini
in the world, which I hate.
Dan Powers
But it wasn't. 8.7 wasn't like a. Oh, my God. At the moment, it really was not, dude. And, but. But 18. 18.8 is like, that is just a huge number NHL wise. And it's. You can say the percentage things all you want to make yourself feel better, but it is going to take a Macklin Celebrini type player to make it work. Yes, but that's why I'm like, when I'm looking at the Ducks, I love Leo Carlson, but Leo Carlson has not yet done what Macklin has done.
Sean Buffini
Yes.
Dan Powers
That is to make me be like this. Oh, you can still win. But also people forget, dude, when Sid signed, that they also had fucking Evgeny Malkin and they also had Marc Andre Fleury in net and they also had Chris Latang on Daniel. So that is a big factor as well. When I look at the Ducks and the Sharks, do you have a goalie that I think is Mark Andre Fleury esque? No, Neither of you do. And both goalies are very good. Dostahl's great. I do think that. I think Askroff is great too, but, like, they need to elevate.
Sean Buffini
Prove it to me big time.
Dan Powers
Lacombe is unbelievable. But, like, neither of these teams also have an Evgeny Malkin and a Chris Letang and a Marque Andre Fleury. You have to think about that as well.
Sean Buffini
And the Penguins won, so they did with this. I know sid wasn't making 10, but if you want to talk percentages, the Penguins won, but they also lost one and then didn't win again till way later when, when, when everyone on Pittsburgh was taking less. Like, that's when they got. That's when they started winning multiple Cups.
Dan Powers
And also you got to look at the difference. Like when people go, Sid's percent of the cap was fucking whatever, you know, X percent. And you know, Leo and Max is only 1.8%. We'll do that math too.
Chris Powers
Yeah.
Dan Powers
Because the difference in that number is going to be a lot, dude.
Sean Buffini
Especially dude, because. And at this point, this is why I think it's a little fucked at this point, dude, if I'm Cutter, I go, dude, give me 16. Like, literally, fuck off. Give me 18 if I'm Cutter, like, fuck you. But whatever. And if I'm Will, I'm saying the same thing. I'm like, give me 16.
Dan Powers
And.
Sean Buffini
And the only way this could maybe work is if Will and Cutter go, okay, we'll take 10.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Sean Buffini
And I'm like, you don't deserve that. You, you, you should be getting. If that's what the number is, then you should be getting way more. And now you really can't afford anybody.
Dan Powers
I mean, 100% at this age. And with. I mean, the Sharks haven't even made playoffs. And if you're shelling out 18.8 for Macklin, if I'm Will, I am looking at my agent and going literally ask for the highest number possible, the highest number feasible.
Sean Buffini
And I don't blame him at all.
Dan Powers
Me neither. Because it's like, well, this is what we're doing.
Sean Buffini
Yep.
Dan Powers
And that. It is what it is. And yeah, Cutter, I think Cutter is different in that the Ducks are closer. I mean, the Ducks made it to the second round already last year.
Sean Buffini
He had 40 goals as a child.
Dan Powers
That is the big one. Like, Cutter's points are very close to Leos. He's already a 40 goal guy, dude. So, yeah, like, he is. I, I mean, when we heard that report from Yan, that was like Cutter's camp is being like, we're taking 18 too.
Sean Buffini
Yeah.
Dan Powers
I'm like, I get it.
Sean Buffini
Agree. Yep.
Dan Powers
So it is. Yeah, man. Like it. It's. Again, Macklin deserves every cent of this. And he is the guy that you do this for. He is a franchise generational talent and that is the guy that you pay.
Sean Buffini
Yeah. The guy who, if I go, who is the highest paid player in league, I go, Mac, yeah.
Dan Powers
But when You. I don't care what the percentage is when you set the bar that you go, our team's highest paid player is 18.8 million a year. That is the. That is. And also the highest paid player in the NHL. It's just. You're like, okay, we got to get frisky now. Yeah. And I'm like, I'm sorry. At least for the next couple of years you look. Let's look. Take a look at the sharks. They have 7 mil in cap space. And that's going to be. Again, we always got to remember Coots, 8 mil is coming off the books next year. Huge. But that 18.8 mil next year is going to hurt, especially when Will signs what he signs. And you've got nurse at 9.25 on a full no move for the next few years. And you just signed Truba to 8.25.
Sean Buffini
Like, and we've been talking about, man, the Sharks have so many young guys, like, pretty soon that kind of you. And now I'm like, dude, where. What happens to Misa and Stenberg? Like, what. What is going on?
Dan Powers
Stenberg, Misa. I mean, you're fine with Stenberg for a few years for sure, but like, Misa.
Sean Buffini
Misa just had that quote, like, we're building something here.
Dan Powers
Like, yes, Dickinson too.
Sean Buffini
Yeah, Like.
Dan Powers
Like, you got Dickinson, Misa and Will, who are all like, will is about to extend tomorrow, dude visa.
Sean Buffini
Literally yesterday goes, we are building something here. And I go, I guess you are off this team today. He wakes up and I go, you are now officially off the Sharks. Just FYI.
Dan Powers
Yeah. I mean, no hope. What's. What's just. What's going to be interesting is when. When you get a team that gets this insane run of draft picks, you get Will Smith, you get Macklin Celebrini, then you get fucking Misa, you get Dickinson, then you get fucking Stenberg. Immediately, people start having the question of, like, how are they going to keep all those guys? Yeah, that's obviously something a GMS to figure out when you then pay Mac this. Now you're like this, woof.
Sean Buffini
Yep.
Dan Powers
Now it's going to be real tricky to keep all those guys. And you know, that's what happens when you get an embarrassment of riches and draft picks.
Sean Buffini
In fact, you can't keep them. The only way you can keep them is if you're Florida and everyone goes, I'll take this, I'll take this, I'll take this. And no one wants to take that.
Dan Powers
Yeah, it's going to be tough, but at the end of the day, this is an awesome moment.
Sean Buffini
Yep. I can't believe the Ducks and the. I was about to say I can't believe the Ducks and the Sharks have somehow let the Wilds Krill deal off the hook, but they're just also fucked. So you're not off the hook. It just. You look less insane, but you are also insane.
Dan Powers
Yes. It's so true.
Sean Buffini
Yeah.
Dan Powers
Like Krill signed for 3 mil more than Leon.
Sean Buffini
I was like.
Dan Powers
And everyone was like, yo.
Sean Buffini
Yeah.
Dan Powers
And I mean, but like certainly that is played a huge factor in Brier giving the number he gave.
Sean Buffini
So on the Wild, Dan, and then this is the last thing and I only have one question for you here because it says Quinn in the Wild are going to talk contract this week and we're not going to spend time on these airwaves projecting what might happen. We will react when it does happen. But I just wanted to ask you this. The Wild camp, the reports are they want five to eight years. And the seven year thing kicks in September 16th, I now know, okay, so if anyone gets it done before September 16, you can do eight years. The Wild want five to eight for Quinn, obviously three years would line up exactly with Jack being a free agent. My only point of conversation on this topic and then we're done is do you think he signs for three years?
Dan Powers
If I were him, I would, I think 1,000. To me, it's like if the Wild aren't in win now in the next three years, they obviously are. I feel like I give him a three year deal and if I'm the Wild, I'm pretty happy.
Sean Buffini
Yep.
Dan Powers
I'm kind of like, yeah, dude, like
Sean Buffini
he traded a lot for him, got him for four years. Yeah.
Dan Powers
And you also go, if he gives you three years and isn't like, I mean, dude, he, he has every opportunity to be like, I'm going, bro.
Sean Buffini
And maybe after three he stays in. Jack comes there, you know, like, it doesn't mean he's leaving Minnesota. He just wants the opportunity.
Dan Powers
That's what we always say. It's. It's on the team, it's on the GMs to be to convince someone to go stay here. Yeah, but Quinn Hughes is a UFA after this year. If Quinn Hughes signs for three years, everyone in Minnesota should be thrilled about that. Like, he gave you three more years. He has no. There's nothing that makes him be like this. I am. I have to stay here, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But if you give three more years to this team and you Go. Let's do it. Dude. We got three years to win a Stanley cup in Minnesota. And then, frankly, dude, you do win a Stanley Cup. If he then leaves and goes and joins the boys in Jersey. If you're in Minnesota, you go, awesome.
Sean Buffini
Yep.
Dan Powers
We got a cup.
Sean Buffini
Yeah.
Dan Powers
Like, fuck it.
Sean Buffini
If you don't win, then you had every fucking chance, frankly.
Dan Powers
It's like, listen, obviously if you are the wild and you offer him five and he takes it, of course, that's amazing. But if his camp is like this, we want three. I wouldn't even come back with a off. I would go like this. You're gonna give us three?
Sean Buffini
Yeah. Amazing. Amazing. I thought you might leave for free.
Dan Powers
Truly.
Sean Buffini
Yeah.
Dan Powers
Because, like, in that three years, you have three years to go. We have an amazing team. Let's win a Stanley Cup. If you win a cup. I absolutely bet he's like, I'm fucking staying, dude. Because if you win a Stanley cup, we see it. Look at what happened in Florida. You. You want to stay there because you know that you have the tools and the team that has done it. And then you have Quinn being fucking captain recruit and he's looking at Jack as their contracts line up and he's like this. Come here.
Sean Buffini
Yep, we won three years. Book it.
Dan Powers
I think three years would be amazing.
Sean Buffini
All right, dude, this is it.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Sean Buffini
This is the moment.
Dan Powers
This is the moment.
Sean Buffini
I still can't. I still can't even believe this happened.
Dan Powers
I can.
Sean Buffini
I. I can.
Dan Powers
We're a fucking hit show.
Sean Buffini
We're hit. We're a hit show. We're cool dudes. And you keep.
Dan Powers
You keep doing that with jest in your voice, but I know we're cool as hell.
Sean Buffini
Sean's cool.
Dan Powers
Sean is very cool.
Sean Buffini
Sean is cool. And. But this guy. This guy's. This guy might be the coolest guy.
Dan Powers
I mean, are we going to take an ad break right before we go?
Sean Buffini
Yes, you come back from this ad.
Dan Powers
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Sean Buffini
Yes.
Dan Powers
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Sean Buffini
Yeah.
Dan Powers
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Sean Buffini
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Dan Powers
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Sean Buffini
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Dan Powers
I. Yeah, I mean, it's like as
Sean Buffini
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Dan Powers
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Sean Buffini
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Chris Powers
Let him hear.
Dan Powers
Is unreal. Oh, how crazy is fanatics fest. This is unbelievable.
Alex Ovechkin
Yeah, this place is nuts. Obviously I never thought like it's gonna be like that, that lots of great spots. Yeah. But it's busy days. It's great for fans, great for me. Like to see all the people to meet great athletes and yeah, it's. It's a great time.
Sean Buffini
Yeah. Who's your favorite person you've run into here? Besides us, obviously.
Alex Ovechkin
I meet a couple NBA champs.
Sean Buffini
The Knicks, baby.
Alex Ovechkin
Yeah.
Sean Buffini
I'm sure we got some Knicks fans here.
Dan Powers
Yeah, for sure.
Alex Ovechkin
I met number one, A.J.
Dan Powers
yeah. A nice DC connection.
Alex Ovechkin
Yeah, DC connection. So, yeah, lots. Lots of people. I mean, so it's pretty cool.
Dan Powers
That's awesome. It's amazing. Well, man, to quote you, obviously this summer for some Cavs fans was stressful, but we're back. See you in D.C. this is amazing. You're coming back for your 22nd season. It is unbelievable. You're the most tenured D.C. athlete of all time. You and Sid are about to become just the fifth and sixth players in NHL history to play 22 seasons with all one franchise. You're one of the most tenured captains of all time. How does it feel to be coming back?
Alex Ovechkin
Yeah, it feels great. Obviously it was hard summer because like, I don't know what I'm going to sign or what's. What's going to happen happened. But yeah, it's kind of release and yeah, I'm happy. My family happy, fans happy and the organization is happy. So I can't wait when the season starts and can't wait to go back and play hockey?
Dan Powers
Yeah, no doubt. Was. Was missing playoffs kind of a factor in that being like, we gotta have at least one more run before I hang them up. Did that factor into the decision at all?
Alex Ovechkin
Well, it's. Of course when you play 82 games, you want to be in the playoffs because you prepare yourself. You prepare mining your mind, your body for. For a standard cup run. And of course it sucks when you're not making the playoffs and it sucks for everybody, for. For fans, for. For my teammates and yeah. So the additions, what we have, I hope it's gonna help us to be in a playoffs position and we'll see what's gonna happen. Yeah.
Dan Powers
Were you. I mean, I think everyone's curious to know and I definitely am. Were you close to actually hanging them up or were you always sort of like, no, I'M coming back for one more. We got nervous, man. I'm gonna be honest. We all got nervous.
Alex Ovechkin
Honestly. Like, I was thinking about like, okay, let's see what's gonna happen with the team. And I was talking to general manager, I was talking to coaching staff and yeah, like, it was kind of like easy decision for me when I saw what's got. What's happening with the team. And yeah, so how I said I'm pretty happy what's, what's happening with the team and obviously it's tough to see the guys leaving because, like, we have a great relationship, but it's a business and it's life. So. Yeah. But I'm looking forward for that.
Dan Powers
Absolutely.
Sean Buffini
Exciting, right? You know, it's a Cairo talk. These big deals are happening. I'm sure it fires you up.
Alex Ovechkin
Yeah, of course. Obviously myself, I'm very excited and how I said, I can't wait to go back on the ice and meet all those new guys. And I'm, I'm happy for my kids because they were excited to we back in D.C. we gonna play hockey and they're gonna be on the games and it's gonna be. And it's gonna be a great run.
Sean Buffini
Yeah. That's so awesome.
Dan Powers
Absolutely. Do, do you feel like, you know, obviously it's, as Chris just said, it's exciting. The guys coming in got a great chance to make some noise. This season is more one year deals on the table. Like, do you think that's like, listen, if things go well, maybe we keep running this thing back year after year.
Alex Ovechkin
We will see, we will see what's going to happen this year. But you never know. I'm not, I'm, I'm not thinking about it. I'm thinking about good this year and then we'll see what's going to happen.
Dan Powers
Yeah. Well, I will say this. When you decide to retire, it'd be a huge boost for the show if you told us first. Yeah.
Alex Ovechkin
Should I say, okay, I will?
Sean Buffini
Yeah. That's incredible. Okay, so I want to talk about the goal chase a little bit because I've heard, you know, an MLB guy chasing a home run record, the pressure builds up in a big way. So when you were going into that season two years ago, it's, you know, everybody in the world was talking about you were on pace to break Gretzky's record. When you broke your leg, we were like, oh, no, now this year got ruined. But were you like, I am the Terminator. I will be back in a week. Or what was on Going. Going through your head. When that happened, dude, you were skating
Dan Powers
like three weeks later. That was one of the. It was two weeks later. That was one of the craziest things I've ever seen.
Alex Ovechkin
Yeah, it was. It was kind of a hard position for me and a hard position for offense and for my family because
Sean Buffini
I
Alex Ovechkin
was in a pace to score maybe 50 goals. And back then, like I was 100, was concentrated to coming back the fastest I can.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Alex Ovechkin
And my trainers did great job to recover me, do massages, do all exercises. And of course, when you coming back after like month without playing, it's hard. You're out of shape. You're in the shape, but you out of shape. Yeah. And the first game was hardest game I played since, like maybe Olympic breaks or whatever, because basically you. You're skating, but you're not pushing your leg 100%. You kind of like, try to protect your leg from, you know, when you turn right, left or right, you kind of like, you. You still have that fear. But overall it's been very good. Good stretch for me. And when I'm coming back, like, I feel 100% ready. And yeah, that day when I broke the record, it was a relief from my sho. Because every day, every. Every time when I go to the restaurant or I talk to someone, everybody, are you going to break the record this year? Are you going to break the record this year? And my teammates as well, like, everybody. You think he's going to break the record? You think he's going to break it? It's kind of like something fell off from my shoulder.
Dan Powers
Definitely, man.
Sean Buffini
Yeah.
Dan Powers
Must have been like.
Alex Ovechkin
And I feel. And I feel we all feel great about it.
Dan Powers
Yeah. Yeah.
Sean Buffini
I mean, well, first of all, we bet that you would break the record on a power play goal. So thank you very much for that. That was fantastic. We put that in pretty early, but the. The game, you tied it, that was Hawks at home. You've got two.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Sean Buffini
Wayno's in the building and everything. And obviously, like you just said, everyone's been asking you about it. In that moment, you tie it. You know, the game saw its chaos. Right. I'm sure you were so thrilled in that moment. How bad did you want the hat trick that night? And just get it done with.
Alex Ovechkin
Yeah, I have a pretty good chance. I know I missed the net.
Chris Powers
Yeah.
Alex Ovechkin
Then carbs told me, like, do you want empty netter? Like, I said, no, I don't want it.
Sean Buffini
Which was awesome.
Dan Powers
I remember that when you came back off the ice, we were like, this Is awesome. This guy's gonna do it by putting one behind.
Alex Ovechkin
Yeah. Because you know, of course, of course you want to score as many goals as you can in a game. And empty netta goal is still a goal. It's still hard to score.
Sean Buffini
Absolutely.
Alex Ovechkin
But in that moment, like I was like, no, no, no, let's. Let's wait.
Dan Powers
Yeah, you get the next one. Scoring on your buddy Ilyarokin, was that kind of extra sweet that you scored it on him or were you not even thinking about that?
Sean Buffini
Did you know. Did you know he had never given one up? That was. The Internet was talking about it.
Alex Ovechkin
But did you know that before that I never scored against him?
Dan Powers
Yeah, exactly.
Alex Ovechkin
So it was kind of like great moment and it's gonna be history forever, you know, like, yeah, Russian score against Russian and break the record. So it was pretty cool.
Sean Buffini
Yeah. Amazing. Did you plan out that Celly? Did you know I'm gonna seal slide or was it. Was it really spur of the moment?
Alex Ovechkin
No, no.
Sean Buffini
Like I picture you practicing.
Alex Ovechkin
I've felt, I felt. And when I slide, John Carlson like sprinting to me and he's like, get up, get up, get up. Because everybody like, hey, they're gonna pickpile you. Yeah. So he picked me up and it was crazy moment.
Sean Buffini
Oh, it was insane, dude. It was actually became such an iconic visual too. The T shirts and everything.
Dan Powers
So cool.
Sean Buffini
Okay, so.
Dan Powers
Well, real quick though. Were you able to drink in that night? Like when you. When that happened, were you able to really enjoy it and take a moment to really celebrate how insane that was? Because I know in the middle of the season you're still focused, you're still trying to win games.
Alex Ovechkin
Yeah, we have a little bit of celebration obviously in the locker room. Then we fly back to D.C. then we go to the restaurant with all team.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Alex Ovechkin
Teammates.
Dan Powers
That dinner looked awesome.
Alex Ovechkin
Wives. Yeah. And it was, it was great moment. But after that, like we start focusing on the games and totally how I said, we forget about the. The record and we would never heard about like you think you're gonna score them.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Alex Ovechkin
When you're gonna break the record, when you're gonna like it's. It was over.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Alex Ovechkin
And we started focusing on the games and making the playoffs.
Dan Powers
Yeah. Now it's just. When are you gonna get to 1,000?
Sean Buffini
So yeah, here's the thing. So you have a thousand and six everything regular season and playoffs.
Alex Ovechkin
Okay.
Sean Buffini
And Wayno has 1016, so you're 10 away. And I looked up your guys schedule. Okay. Games seven through 11 are home. And I Feel like you owe the home fans breaking this one at home. Okay, so seven through 11 are Canadiens, devils, Kings, Sabers, Flyers. Who do you want
Alex Ovechkin
game by game?
Dan Powers
There you go. Good answer.
Sean Buffini
Yeah, exactly. We'll take it. I think Flyer in division against the Flyers. That would feel good.
Dan Powers
No offense to the Philly fans out here, but that would be pretty sweet.
Sean Buffini
That would feel really good. I love that.
Dan Powers
All right, we want to kick it to some story time because we talked to a bunch of your teammates who are friends of ours, and one that's definitely pressing. I know a lot of people are curious because so are we. We talked to Oshi and there's a lot of misinformation on what's actually in the water bottle on the bench. We've heard that it's Coca Cola right now. Is that true?
Alex Ovechkin
Yes, it's true.
Dan Powers
Okay. Do you mix it up though? Because Osh was saying it might have been Dr. Pepper at one point.
Alex Ovechkin
No. Sometimes I drink Dr. Pepper before a game. Like maybe one or two zips and that's it. But I have Coca Cola in my bottle.
Dan Powers
Yeah. And have you been doing that your whole career?
Alex Ovechkin
Yes, since, I think my first year. Yeah.
Dan Powers
Why? I mean, don't get me wrong, I love it.
Sean Buffini
It's working.
Dan Powers
I love it and it's clearly working.
Alex Ovechkin
Yeah. I think my previous trainer, he was running marathon and he said when you exhausted the marathon, people drink Coca Cola without the gas. And I start drinking it and yeah, I feel pretty good. I think it's working.
Chris Powers
Yay.
Dan Powers
Me too.
Sean Buffini
Has anyone else. Is anyone else trying it on the team or because they're chasing this? Or is that just a you thing?
Alex Ovechkin
Yeah. When the Koozie was on the team.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Alex Ovechkin
Sometimes he asked me, can I drink it? I said, yeah, go ahead.
Dan Powers
There you go.
Sean Buffini
Ov secret sauce.
Dan Powers
So we got Dr. Pepper pre game, Coca Cola during the game. This is the recipe to become the greatest goal scorer of all time. Everyone clearly knows that now and then. I do have to ask this because this is a big one. He has told us also that you apparently have a nice hangover cure. Apparently you have a nice hangover cure. Sushi. A beer and a nap. And we're good.
Sean Buffini
He said sushi, beer, nap. All good, babe.
Chris Powers
Yeah.
Sean Buffini
We gotta try that secret.
Alex Ovechkin
Well, first of all, I love sushi.
Sean Buffini
Yeah.
Alex Ovechkin
And sushi without the beer, it's kind
Dan Powers
of like it goes hand in hand.
Alex Ovechkin
Yeah. Yeah. So one, two beers. It's. It's. It's good. Good for you.
Dan Powers
Yeah, exactly. We're back on Track.
Sean Buffini
Hey, I'm gonna test this out.
Dan Powers
Oh.
Sean Buffini
I promise you tomorrow. That's what I'm doing to figure this out. Okay. All right. And then Brooks, like, says, hi. He was so thrilled that we got to hang with you today. I know you guys love each other. And he said we had to ask. There was a day in practice where you did the entire practice with a toilet plunger taped to your stick. Please explain what was going on that day.
Alex Ovechkin
Yeah, the tail hunter was my coach, and after one game, I think. Think we lost or something like that happened. And he called me a plumber. And he's like, ovi, you plumber. You like? Yeah, you can score goals, but you're a plumber. You have to be a plumber. So I didn't know, like, what's. What does it mean?
Sean Buffini
What does that mean?
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Alex Ovechkin
So next day, I asked my teammates, what is the name of plumber? So. And I said, okay, I'm gonna be a plumber. So I put the plumber.
Sean Buffini
Yeah.
Alex Ovechkin
The plunger, and I tape it up with my stick, and I skate maybe, like, two drills. Yeah. And that's it. I think it was. Funny moment.
Dan Powers
That's incredible. Did he think it was funny, or was he kind of rolling his eyes at all?
Alex Ovechkin
No, it was just. It's all about fun.
Dan Powers
There you go.
Sean Buffini
Okay. And then speaking of sushi, I'm sure some people have heard the. The story, but I want them to hear it from you. Tell everyone about the. The 65 guy sushi rock lunch. When you got. When you got bamboozled into a double captain's dinner.
Alex Ovechkin
Yeah, it was. I think it was a couple of years ago. I think it was a training camp, and I just bring everybody to sushi after practice. I think it was. It was. Was great. Great time for new guys, for rookies to hang out with with us and just to have a sushi and a couple beers as well.
Sean Buffini
Yeah, well, see, I loved it because it's incredible. As we were talking to her, busting your balls like, oh, he was only supposed to take the guys that made the team out. But I was like, no, this is awesome. The 65 guys at training camp all got to have sushi lunch with ovi.
Dan Powers
I mean, it's one of the great things you could ever imagine, and it's some of the best camaraderie you could ever imagine. Ask for. It's fantastic.
Sean Buffini
What's. What's your sushi order?
Alex Ovechkin
I like hand rolls.
Sean Buffini
Okay. Nice.
Alex Ovechkin
I like toro.
Sean Buffini
Yeah.
Alex Ovechkin
I. I love every sushi, all of it. Yeah, Like, I can eat. I can eat sushi every day.
Dan Powers
I completely agree. And there's also nothing I won't eat. Like, whenever someone's like, what do you like? I'm like, just put it all in front of me. We're going to go crazy here.
Sean Buffini
It's going to be great. That's same with me. Okay. And then this one. One, too. This is back to you being the Terminator. There was a story where you got a really bad cut on your thigh. Like 20 stitches or something. Deep cut. The team's like, he's going to be out a month. This is a nightmare. And then the next game at Ottawa, you play and have four tucks.
Alex Ovechkin
Yeah, I have this car right here.
Chris Powers
Oh, my God. Dude.
Alex Ovechkin
Huge.
Dan Powers
It's unbelievable.
Sean Buffini
So what happened?
Alex Ovechkin
We play against Pittsburgh and I hit Le Tank and the Tank, like, fell off and his skate goes up and cut my. Cut my leg. So I missed. I missed that game. It was. I think it was in the third period.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Alex Ovechkin
And then we have to fly to Ottawa.
Sean Buffini
Yeah.
Alex Ovechkin
So I have all my stitches done. And then my trainer asked me, are you ready to play? I said, well, let me try. So he put protection for my skin.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Alex Ovechkin
For my scar. And I went out on the warm up, tried. Feels good. Everything okay. And then four goals happened.
Dan Powers
Four goals.
Sean Buffini
So ridiculous, dude.
Dan Powers
I mean, getting a skate to the thigh, 22 zips. And then four, four goals.
Sean Buffini
The durability is underappreciated. Your durability, because I'm sure that's one of a million stories of lore where you have had this career where you scored this many goals, never missing real time. It's incredible, dude. It's such a testament.
Dan Powers
It's really remarkable.
Sean Buffini
Let's go. Seriously? Seriously. Let him hear it.
Dan Powers
It's truly. We will never see this again. So we also have a conversation with Logan Thompson, your goaltender, and the first thing that came up with him is sewer ball. He was saying that you're the biggest sewer ball fan on the team. And he has told us to give you a message that you're his number one target this season. He's like, I'm coming for O this year every single time. But he also said that you rinse him in rock, paper, scissors. What's up with that? Why are you playing rock paper, scissors so often with lt?
Alex Ovechkin
Yeah, it's just between me and lt. But yeah, it's a fun game and we always have fun together. Like in the restaurant, at the bar, or like, whatever we're together. Like, hey, you want to play.
Dan Powers
And are we gambling on rock, paper, scissors?
Alex Ovechkin
No, no, no, no, no. Just.
Dan Powers
Yeah, this is just a nice gentlemanly match of rock, paper, scissors.
Sean Buffini
And what's. What's the strategy? Do you have a method? Or maybe you can't reveal it because he'll hear this, but do you have a strategy? Yeah, yeah.
Dan Powers
Don't let him know. Don't let him know.
Alex Ovechkin
Yeah, I have a strategy, but I'm not going to tell him.
Dan Powers
Yeah, can't tell. Can't tell.
Chris Powers
I like that.
Dan Powers
I like that. When it comes to sewer, who are the best guys on the team? Are you the best on the team
Alex Ovechkin
on the Super Bowl? Yeah, I'm one of them. Proto Service is good. Sandin's good. LT the worst.
Sean Buffini
Wow. He is going to be pissed.
Dan Powers
I'm sorry.
Alex Ovechkin
LT the worst. Chuck is second the worst. So. Yeah.
Sean Buffini
Okay.
Dan Powers
Not bad. Again, we need LT to stop pucks.
Alex Ovechkin
He have to do his job.
Dan Powers
Yeah, exactly.
Sean Buffini
Worry less about rock, paper, scissors and sewer ball and stop the puck. That's awesome. Ove. I want to go to the Stanley cup at that point. You guys have met such good teams over and over and obviously there's. I know you guys are friends, but there's a rivalry with you and Sid as you guys come into league at the same time and as you guys both said, saved the league in a lot of ways at that point. He's got three, I think by then. And you have lost to them a bunch of times. We talked to Osh a lot about that so season and he tells us how close you guys were in the Mario Kart and all that good stuff. But he said when you got past pit, he was like, we won. We knew we won the Cup 100%. Nothing even phased us. Not even going down three two to Tampa.
Dan Powers
Did you feel that way too in
Sean Buffini
that series or was it all too much?
Alex Ovechkin
I feel that. I feel that way when we beat the Penguins. Well, first of all, we was down in the first round to Columbus.
Dan Powers
That's why. Right?
Alex Ovechkin
Yeah.
Sean Buffini
Yeah. Great call.
Alex Ovechkin
And that kind of momentum when Eller scored, scored that game winning goal and it starts 2, 1.
Sean Buffini
Yeah.
Alex Ovechkin
It kind of changes our mentality and our momentum. And then we kind of like. Like a snowball, you know, it's hard to stop. Maybe we have some, some different situations with suspensions, with injuries, but they're all the guys who was in the team. Like there was, there was so close to each other.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Alex Ovechkin
And everybody knows their roles.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Alex Ovechkin
Like if something happened, like, Alex, Jason can go play with me. And Kuzi or something like that. And he's not going to be like, you know, okay, I'm just going to do like dump the puck and try to go and chase it and make a hit. No, he's tried to make a play. And you can. If you remember when Jason scored the goal against Pittsburgh.
Sean Buffini
Yeah, yeah, that's.
Alex Ovechkin
That's kind of situation when everybody was together on the same page and everybody was like, okay, the team priority is number one. And it doesn't matter who score, it doesn't matter what kind of situation. We still believe in each other and we still gonna. Gonna go on the ice and fight for each other.
Dan Powers
Yeah. My favorite thing about that season, stories that Oshie tells is the coaching staff, everyone talking to top players on the team, leaders on the team like you, Niki Osh, guys like that. And the way you all stepped up, like you just said, knowing your role, you guys started blocking shots, you guys started laying in front of pucks and stuff like that. When you guys were doing that and it was working and you have that momentum. How contagious is that feeling in the locker room of like, we've got something special here?
Alex Ovechkin
Well, I, I think it doesn't matter who's blocking the shots. It's just in the playoffs, like you have to do like certain different things that you may not do in the regular season. Obviously you never know what's going to happen during the game. Maybe going to you down to nothing and then one hit, one block shot can change everything thing and it's kind of. Okay, guys, wake up and let's. Here we go, let's go. Let's try to win the game. And obviously then Tom Wilson gets suspension. Like we all. Yeah, you know, like it's gonna hurt us.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Alex Ovechkin
But we still like we was so much confidence and believe in each other and was focused on the game, not focusing on that suspension. Nick Bastion get hurt like his finger and we kind of. Okay, let's take game by game and see what happened. And that group of guys who was in the locker room in hotels, like we were so close to each other that how I said it's kind of like huge snowball, it's hard to break and yeah, that's what gave us success that year.
Sean Buffini
Yeah, well, dude, when you are so focused because people forget the playoffs are so long, always says that too. The mental toll to stay that focus that long. But then you get to game five, you're up three one and you, you score, take the lead, they score, they go for twice Take it back. And then I think Devo scored. Who had such an epic playoff run. Remember that? Yeah. And then Eller scores. So you go up. There's, like, seven minutes left in game five. How hard was it to stay in the moment and not be like, oh, my God, we just won the Cup.
Alex Ovechkin
Yeah. It was probably the longest seven or five minutes in my life. And I remember the clock was. Something happened with the clock, and they don't show up on the. On the. On the. Like, on the screen. And like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Like, we start. We started, like, calling the ref. Stop the game. Stop the game. And then someone said, let the time go. Oh, yeah, let's keep going.
Dan Powers
Let it rip.
Alex Ovechkin
Yeah. So when everybody, like, be quiet.
Dan Powers
Shut up.
Alex Ovechkin
Like, okay, let's focus. And then.
Sean Buffini
That is awesome.
Alex Ovechkin
Everybody who was on the ice, they're blocking the shot. They sacrificed their body for that kind of half a second bomb finish with Stanley cup champs the best.
Sean Buffini
And what did you think in that moment? Like, what was going through your head right when that buzzer went off?
Alex Ovechkin
Be honest, I still don't remember. Like, yeah, that whole celebration on the.
Sean Buffini
I believe that.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Alex Ovechkin
My emotion was so high. And like, sometimes, like, you know, we watched the highlights. Like, I remember something, but the celebration, after the whistle, after the horn, I don't remember how we hugging, like, what we say to each other. It was kind of, like the best moment in my life.
Sean Buffini
Yeah. Incredible. And then. Yeah. And what's. What's one of your. I know there was a million. But what's one of your favorite memories from the celebration after, like, D.C. man,
Dan Powers
you guys had the best time to talk about that. And I'm not even talking about just the party, but the way all the fans came out in D.C. and just flooded everything. It was so cool.
Alex Ovechkin
But I think the best. The best part was in the locker room. Yep.
Dan Powers
That's what everyone says.
Alex Ovechkin
Are we all Celebration. It was. It was beer, champagne. It was like. Like.
Dan Powers
Like this just neat, ankle deep.
Alex Ovechkin
Like, our families was waiting us in hotel. But we don't want to go. We don't want to leave the locker room because, like, that. That time, what we have, it was kind of, you know, kind of relief. What we been through a whole year, you know, since training camp, since season, because we have ups and down. Right? Like, we. We have, like, bad memories with the previous years.
Sean Buffini
Yes, right.
Dan Powers
Yes, totally.
Alex Ovechkin
Then, like, through all that, like, we started, like, talking about how cool is that we win the stage cup, you know, like, we hugging each other, like, we laughing we dancing, we swimming and. Yeah, it was. It was unbelievable.
Chris Powers
Yeah.
Dan Powers
And you're right. It's like you.
Sean Buffini
You.
Dan Powers
You know, you can win the cup again, but you can never recreate that moment again. So I get wanting to stay in the locker room and just being present at that moment.
Sean Buffini
So cool.
Alex Ovechkin
Yeah, it was. It was the greatest time in my life.
Sean Buffini
Yeah. That's so great. We gotta do it again. We gotta get it this year, dude. Let's go. Come on.
Dan Powers
Come on.
Sean Buffini
Okay. Oh. We play a game with everybody that we call Pass Shoot Score. If you listen to our show, everybody knows we shoot this fun game at the end. It's essentially a ranking system. We'll give you three things in a category, and you just rank them. Pass is your least favorite because passing the puck is whatever. Shooting is your second favorite because we like to shoot. And you of all people can appreciate that. Score is your first favorite. That's the number one answer.
Dan Powers
So it's all going to be things that we know you like, and you're going to have to rank them. One, two, three.
Alex Ovechkin
Passing, number three.
Sean Buffini
Passing three.
Chris Powers
Shoot.
Alex Ovechkin
Number two.
Dan Powers
Score. Number one.
Sean Buffini
And this first one came from Oshi because he said he needed to know the official rankings. And this is going to be set in stone, dude.
Chris Powers
Yeah.
Sean Buffini
So pass. You'd score your favorite beer. Bud Light, Guinness or Stella.
Alex Ovechkin
Stella. Score.
Dan Powers
Wow, wow, wow. Coming out. Hot
Alex Ovechkin
Guinness. Pass.
Sean Buffini
Okay.
Alex Ovechkin
And Bud Light is shooting.
Sean Buffini
Is the Shoot. Okay. And then he did say I should
Dan Powers
ask where Sapporo would rank because, like, we drew in the sushi dinner. That's the beer.
Alex Ovechkin
Sapporo. The Stanley Cup. That's.
Dan Powers
Wow. Oh, my God. Oh, my pastry.
Alex Ovechkin
Just.
Sean Buffini
Score.
Dan Powers
Just got changed forever.
Sean Buffini
That is incredible.
Dan Powers
So Sapporo is number one. Like, that's the top of the top.
Sean Buffini
OSHA's gonna be shocked.
Alex Ovechkin
That's what I'm saying. Sushi and Sapporo.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Alex Ovechkin
Japanese.
Dan Powers
That is the cure. That is the cure.
Sean Buffini
Yeah, that's. That's the actual. Now we know the real recipe. Yeah, now we know the real recipe to the Hangover Cure.
Dan Powers
All right. I'm really excited about this one. Your next one, Pass, Shoot, Score is gonna be movies, so Pass, Shoot, Score. Gladiator, the Dark Knight and the Last Dance.
Sean Buffini
With tv. I guess, though the last one counts.
Alex Ovechkin
Last dance is a score.
Chris Powers
Okay.
Alex Ovechkin
Gladiator is shooting.
Dan Powers
Okay. And we're gonna pass the Dark Knight.
Alex Ovechkin
Yes.
Dan Powers
Okay.
Sean Buffini
Dark Knight.
Dan Powers
I'm happy with that. I mean, Gladiator is my favorite movie of all time. So that being. Shoot, I can live with that.
Sean Buffini
Is that, is that. I know you said that.
Alex Ovechkin
I love Gladiator.
Dan Powers
It's so good, man. That's. I. I watch it 20 times a year.
Sean Buffini
It's a problem. Do you watch it a lot or you just saw it once and you love it?
Alex Ovechkin
Yeah, like me and my wife like watched lots of movies and Gladder is.
Chris Powers
Yeah.
Dan Powers
Top 10 for sure in the rotation. I love it.
Sean Buffini
What, what does movies. Does she like? Do you guys like the same type of movies or is it all.
Alex Ovechkin
Yeah, we like to, you know, like shows. Lots of different shows. Like comedies. Like Detective.
Dan Powers
Yeah, like. Yeah, love that.
Sean Buffini
What have you been watching this summer?
Alex Ovechkin
I don't remember the name. I'll text you the name.
Chris Powers
Okay?
Dan Powers
Yeah, yeah. Deal, Deal. But the last dance is so good, man.
Sean Buffini
It's unbelievable.
Alex Ovechkin
Yeah.
Dan Powers
One of the greatest docs. Unbelievable.
Alex Ovechkin
Yeah, it's phenomenal.
Sean Buffini
So awesome. Okay, now I'm going to take it to Barcelona.
Alex Ovechkin
Your.
Sean Buffini
Your second love. And I'm actually really interested to hear what you say on this because I have a lot of opinions on my young childhood favorites. So I want you to pass. You'd score your love for Barcelona stars. Messi, Ronaldinho, Rivaldo.
Alex Ovechkin
Messi score.
Dan Powers
Good. There we go.
Sean Buffini
Clap right there, Ronaldinho.
Alex Ovechkin
Shoot.
Sean Buffini
Okay.
Alex Ovechkin
And you said Rivaldo.
Sean Buffini
Yeah, yeah.
Alex Ovechkin
Rival pass.
Dan Powers
Did you.
Sean Buffini
But did I get the jersey when you were 12? Did you get the revolver?
Alex Ovechkin
Yes, yes.
Dan Powers
Your knowledge and appreciation for Rivaldo made me very happy because that is a very.
Alex Ovechkin
It's hardcore. Like, it's hard to. Was Ronaldinho and Messi. Because I love both of them.
Sean Buffini
Yeah, I listen, I have some hot takes I'm gonna get. This guy's gonna be mad at me. This guy's gonna be mad at me. But I have some hot takes that Ronaldinho was better. He just got bored. He literally just stopped. He was like, never mind. I don't his lap. Ronaldinho was 26 years old at his last World Cup. Wrap your head around that. Bessie's 39 right now. 26. So. Yeah, I'm with you on that. He was. He was such a joy to watch.
Alex Ovechkin
He was a go. Yeah.
Dan Powers
Yeah. Have you been watching the World Cup?
Alex Ovechkin
Oh, yeah.
Dan Powers
I mean, it's been unbelievable. Who do you have tomorrow?
Alex Ovechkin
It's hard because I'm massive fan.
Dan Powers
Yeah, me too.
Alex Ovechkin
But plus I'm Spanish fan as well.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Alex Ovechkin
So I hope it's going to be fun game to watch and both team deserve to win.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Alex Ovechkin
And I hope it's going to be fun game. Game. It's going. I hope it's going to be lots of goals and the people who's going to be understand. So they going to enjoy the moment.
Dan Powers
Oh yeah, for sure. That's all. I mean, I just want to get.
Sean Buffini
Do you have. Now that you are. Are an aging vet, do you have love when you see someone like Messi or, or Joker who's. Who's around here still? I think Djokovic.
Dan Powers
Oh yeah.
Sean Buffini
These guys like you like Sid, like those guys that are still competing at such a high level at your age, do you, do you have extra love for those athletes because you're like, God, we're doing it together.
Alex Ovechkin
Yeah. Like, like be honest with you, in this World cup, like so many good things happen and so many bad things happen. And one of the things when Portugal lost Ronaldo out of the World Cup. Yeah, like it was a sad moment moment for me because.
Dan Powers
I agree.
Alex Ovechkin
Yeah. Because I think he's a goat. He's a. One of the greatest player who played in this game and we was lucky enough to watch live how he played and it was kind of hard feeling to see like his. He might. He made might retire and we never see him again for playing in the World cup and, or Champions League or whatever.
Dan Powers
For sure. No, I am so with you watching him walk off the pitch, it was like, this is probably the last time on the World cup jersey. Right. It's crazy on that topic. I know you, you know, you get asked questions about this all the time, but it's because it's so special. Is there an element of, you know, you and Sid kind of coming into the league together at the same time, you're both still doing it at such a high level. How cool is that for you being able to look at him an in division rival, one of the other greats of the game still doing it with you. Does it give you motivation? Does it kind of make you realize and. And be able to look at it like this is so cool.
Alex Ovechkin
Yeah. I think beginning of the beginning our career, like we're pushing each other to be better.
Dan Powers
Definitely.
Alex Ovechkin
You know, like in last couple of years, like we became good friends. We graza on the milestones or whatever. We text each other, we call each other, we hang out sometimes together. And yeah, we became a friends and we have a really good relationship together. So it's obviously motivation, obviously pushing you to be better. And I think it's great for hockey that the fans and the history of the game have that kind of rally between Pittsburgh and Capitals.
Dan Powers
I agree. Agree so much. I mean, it's Like, I'm. I'm sure so many people here can see through the last 20 years of the NHL Washington Pit has been one of the greatest rivalries in the history of the league.
Alex Ovechkin
Correct.
Sean Buffini
And none of us are ready for it to be over.
Dan Powers
Yeah, I hear you.
Sean Buffini
I hear you.
Dan Powers
It's unbelievable.
Sean Buffini
Yeah. Okay. I have. We have a couple more that were too hard to come up with for you because we're polled all your boys, and I was like, I got to do a food one. And everybody was like, well, it's Mama Lucia. It's Mama Lucia. He'll never say anything except that the chicken parm there is the greatest dish ever. So I want to know if I'm going there but not getting the chicken parm. What are the other options? What am I working with?
Alex Ovechkin
The chicken parm, is that spaghetti with the sauces? It's only pregame meal. Only at home.
Sean Buffini
Oh, okay.
Alex Ovechkin
Yeah. I've been there only once. Once.
Sean Buffini
That is so funny. Eaten there 1 billion. How many games you have, you've eaten there 1 billion times? Been there once.
Alex Ovechkin
Yeah. And, yeah. So my favorite, it's chicken parm and spaghetti with all the solutions. Mix.
Sean Buffini
Yep. Okay. So really, that's the only option? There's nothing else to get.
Dan Powers
Why would you mix that up? It's. It's the same thing as the Coca Cola.
Sean Buffini
What?
Dan Powers
Works, works. You know, you got to stick with it. It's unreal.
Sean Buffini
Oh, actually, where does. Where does it. Subway and hot cheetos mixed in there. Where does that fall in the ranking?
Alex Ovechkin
It's just a regular routine before. Before we fly to different cities.
Sean Buffini
Yeah.
Dan Powers
And do you go the same sandwich every time, or do you mix?
Sean Buffini
Oh, good question.
Alex Ovechkin
Sometimes I choose different things. Like pickles.
Dan Powers
Yeah, nice.
Alex Ovechkin
Pepper. Whatever. Yeah.
Sean Buffini
Okay. And then the other one that was too hard to narrow down because I think this is so cool. I love how you collect sticks, like the sign sticks from the opponents. So what are. You know, give me three of your favorite ones of those that you have.
Alex Ovechkin
Mario Lemieux, Wayne Gretzky, and Sydney Crosby. Rookie, Rookie.
Sean Buffini
Oh, rookie. Don't let the tops guys hear you about that one. That's incredible.
Dan Powers
Also, what names?
Sean Buffini
Those three are.
Dan Powers
Good Lord almighty. All right, well, we're running out of time here. Before we call this thing quits and let you get out of here, what are some of the things that you're looking forward to this season the most? I know it's like you said, I love the attitude day by day. But coming into season 22 here, what's got you fired up.
Alex Ovechkin
I still have a passion to the game. I still love the game. I still love to hang out with the boys. That atmosphere in locker room, obviously the fence as well to support and yeah, as soon as I'm. I'm not going to be loved in the game, as soon as I'm going to be like, okay, it's like I want to go to practice. Like, I don't want to play game. Like I'm was just going to say, okay, guys, thank you very much. It's pleasure. Yeah, good luck.
Sean Buffini
Yeah, that's when you'll know. But I can tell, dude, it's. It's. Soon as you get back going with camp and everything, you're going to be fired up again. Because once once this game starts and you get the locker room and everyone's buzzing, then you just. You're right. You're 22 again.
Dan Powers
Yeah, absolutely. We got new guys in the locker room too. It's going to be fresh, it's going to be fun, it's going to be amazing. All right. That's unbelievable stuff from you, man. We can't thank you enough for doing this. This has been so amazing. Everyone, let's hear it for the greatest goal scorer in the history of the NHL, Alex Ovechkin. Unbelievable. And huge shout out. Fanatics. Fanatics Fest. This has been the best. So amazing. Huge shout out to Alex Ovechkin, the great eight.
Sean Buffini
What a dude. It was so sick. It was so sick. I wish we could have hung out all day. He was just such a beauty. And dude, what a horse.
Dan Powers
Oh, my God. He is an. He is a true Clyde.
Sean Buffini
We always talk about the, you know, he leads league in goals and hits and I'm like, God, man, he throws the weight around. But I. We'd like dapped him up and I was like, Jesus Christ, he's a true Clyde.
Dan Powers
Yeah, it was actually funny. Marty was texting us after we did all that and he was like, dude, my rookie year, I stepped up to Madam Dead to rights and he fucking obliterated me. I was like, yeah. I mean, I'm looking at him.
Sean Buffini
Yeah.
Dan Powers
I could not imagine trying to hit him. It's unbelievable.
Sean Buffini
Dude, a legend. Legend in every sense of the word.
Dan Powers
I mean, he, I. It's like I just smiling because that is exactly correct. He is truly. He is an actual living legend.
Sean Buffini
Yes.
Dan Powers
I mean, it's. It's like unbelievable to have been able to just like hang with him, sit down with him and just get all those stories.
Sean Buffini
What an honor.
Dan Powers
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Chris Powers
Yes?
Dan Powers
After all the discourse last episode, are you going to see Spider Man?
Chris Powers
I will.
Dan Powers
Are you excited about it?
Chris Powers
I am. Really?
Dan Powers
I mean, come on.
Chris Powers
I'm. I'm. I'm more excited about this than I have been. Any other superhero movie lasts like five years, but even the Batman. Oh, you're right. You see, I don't even.
Dan Powers
You're that I don't even piece. You know what happened? Dude? You started hanging around us and you became a cynic.
Chris Powers
You're right.
Dan Powers
You used to be.
Chris Powers
So I liked the Batman. I didn't like the Joker.
Sean Buffini
When did Spider man, no Way Home come out? That wasn't inside of five years.
Dan Powers
It might not have been. That might have been, like, 2019.
Chris Powers
I feel like it was long ago. Yeah.
Dan Powers
That would be kind of crazy if. No, no. That must have been 2022.
Sean Buffini
2021.
Dan Powers
21. So five years.
Sean Buffini
Yeah. I cannot believe that was that long ago.
Chris Powers
Yeah. Let me see.
Dan Powers
But The Batman was 2022.
Chris Powers
Yeah. I mean, when I said super, I really meant Marvel. Like, I didn't like Black Widow. I didn't even see Shang Chi in the Legend of the Ten Rings. I don't know what eternals are.
Dan Powers
Eternals is really bad. Look at me right now. My eyes. Shang Chi is very fun.
Chris Powers
Okay.
Dan Powers
I think Shang Chi rocks. It's fun.
Sean Buffini
Yep.
Dan Powers
It's objectively fun. I had a laugh. We had a laugh. Objectively fun. I actually thought Black Widow was pretty fun, too.
Chris Powers
Dr. Strange in the multiverse of madness didn't see. And I like Sam Raimi, but I didn't see it.
Dan Powers
Well, who else you should like is the writer of that product, Michael Waldron. He is the best.
Chris Powers
I saw Taika Waititi's Love and Thunder. Yeah. And I.
Dan Powers
He.
Chris Powers
I like that director so much. And there was parts to this movie I really liked, but I didn't. Nice. Didn't love the movie.
Dan Powers
It was a little. It was a little too Taika.
Chris Powers
Yeah. But Wakanda Forever I didn't see. I guess I'm racist. Ant man and the Wasp. I enjoyed that. I enjoyed Ant man and Wasp, but then I forgot everything about it, like, 10 hours later. Yeah.
Dan Powers
Put it this way. Nothing that Marvel has made since no Way Home has blown our cocks off.
Sean Buffini
Yeah.
Dan Powers
But I think this is going to blow our cocks clean off.
Sean Buffini
I hope so. But I. I watched no Way Home again last night in preparation for this, and no Way Home is so good. I can't believe Danny thinks it's not good. That's insane. But I am. I'm. I don't know what the plot of this movie is.
Dan Powers
I do.
Sean Buffini
And I don't know. I don't want to. I haven't seen the trailer.
Dan Powers
Guys, this is. I think, this movie. I think we're gonna get the best version of MJ we've ever seen. I think MJ's gonna be a way
Sean Buffini
more important character at MIT.
Dan Powers
Will you just please.
Sean Buffini
I just. What do you mean you like every time high school characters and. Listen, Dan, in every piece of entertainment when there's a show or movie series about high school kids when they get to college, it immediately sucks. Can you please.
Dan Powers
I need both of you to turn the optimism and the positivity way up. This movie is going to rock.
Chris Powers
I'm trying to disprove you, but I can't think of it.
Sean Buffini
Every time they're like, okay, now they've graduated. I'm like, okay, well, now this sucks.
Dan Powers
Please just listen to me. This movie's going to be awesome. It's going to be so fun. As a comic nerd, I think we're going to get a lot of really cool villain references that are like deep awesome, cool lore villain references. That's gonna be fun. That's not gonna be hard to understand.
Sean Buffini
That'll only be fun for you. No, like, that's not fun for you.
Dan Powers
I just said it's not gonna be hard to understand. We're gonna introduce new villains that you're gonna be like, whoa, that villains really cool. I think we're gonna see this cool rebrand of Spidey he's gonna be wearing. He doesn't have the Tony Stark suit anymore.
Sean Buffini
Why? Because that suit is gas.
Dan Powers
Doesn't have it.
Chris Powers
I liked the Amazing Spider man with Andrew Garfield, the way his suit was like Nike's sewn on to like a diving suit and stuff. Like, he just kinda like made his own thing and he's like a teenager
Dan Powers
with like a little baggier because it's just stitched by Peter and it'll make
Chris Powers
the Halloween costumes far easier to mix. Yes.
Dan Powers
This movie. We're gonna leave this movie and you're both gonna go like this. That was fucking awesome. So just be happy.
Sean Buffini
I think there's a chance too. And again, I just watched no Way Home and it was wonderful. It's so funny and fun and cool. I think there's a chance. It makes literally no sense. I'm pretty sure the ending is complete nonsense of this movie. No of no Way Home in terms of what. What has happened. Of like the memory spell, you know, like, they just go, well, this happened still, but you didn't happen. And this did. But this didn't. And go. We just want the emotional hits. And then they got it. But I was like, and I'm not here to fight that. We're talking multiverse. It's like talking time travel, you know, I'm like, all right, whatever. But I don't think logically, like, who. Who is what happened to Peter Parker in this version of the world?
Dan Powers
In this version of the world, Peter Parker does not exist.
Sean Buffini
Well he is. He does. He's not.
Dan Powers
No, no, no. Like Peter Parker does not exist to everyone else.
Chris Powers
Like he's entered into it as if it's his first day on the planet. Yes.
Dan Powers
Like the Peter Parker that we know does not exist in the memory of people on this version of Earth. So like Aunt May did exist but just did not have a nephew named Peter. She did die, but through different circumstances.
Sean Buffini
Okay.
Chris Powers
How wild would it be if he did enter into the world and there was a previous Peter Parker who had a whole life he has to fulfill. Those shoes now.
Dan Powers
You know, they certainly won't get into with this. But I always wonder with stuff like this is like how does he get an id? Like is he in a government database? I think the way it works logically is Peter has an id. He is a human being in a government database. But his like and maybe he even has the same history.
Sean Buffini
Like he must because he's clearly a spider.
Dan Powers
It's just everyone on earth doesn't know him. Like they're like, I don't know who this kid is.
Sean Buffini
Was Spider man at the Vengeance? Did he defeat Thanos? Because doctor Strange literally there's one way and he was involved and we need you.
Dan Powers
But I think he's gone. I think all of them are like no, we don't remember the him being there.
Sean Buffini
Yeah. So I hope that in this new one they go like this half the population is dead because Thanos snapped us to death. And well, there was no way to stop.
Dan Powers
But no, they've come back because all of that still happened but he just wasn't a part of it. As far as their memory is concerned,
Sean Buffini
they can't win without him.
Dan Powers
But either way it still happened. They just don't remember it.
Chris Powers
Fuck. Fuck boy.
Sean Buffini
Well can't they remember Spider man being there? They just don't know who it is.
Dan Powers
I don't think so, dude.
Sean Buffini
They don't remember that there was a spy Human Spider fighting with them.
Dan Powers
That's the whole point of the magic spell. What's hard, what's hard to understand? What is hard to understand about doctor Strange magic?
Chris Powers
Do people know Spider Man?
Sean Buffini
That's what I'm saying.
Chris Powers
Don't know Peter Parker. Yeah.
Dan Powers
So that's what I think we're going to learn. Spider man is still out there. I mean like we see in the trailer's NEC has like he is trying to figure out who Spider man is. Spider man exists.
Sean Buffini
Yeah.
Dan Powers
They just don't know it's Peter Parker, right?
Sean Buffini
Yeah. That's okay. But then I'm like, so, Peter, you
Dan Powers
know, it's a great way to find all this out.
Sean Buffini
Watch the movie. Yeah, but I'm just saying they. They have. They've dug themselves in and I don't think they have.
Dan Powers
Look, dude, the reviews are unbelievable.
Sean Buffini
Oh, the movie's gonna be sick. I. I already said at the top of this, I don't give a fuck about these logicals. I'm just saying there was crazy asks of us.
Dan Powers
I think it's like, you know, I just did it in my head.
Sean Buffini
We forgot. We forgot. I wanted to ask you guys this because I was like, man, Tom Holland's had a tough go not being Spider Man. You brought up that quote where he's like, I hope I'm not doing Spider man when I'm 30. And I'm like, well, you are. And then I was like, God, I guess he is a little typecast as Spider Man. And then I was like, God, who are the greatest typecast actors ever? And then I was like, I'm not sure if that's a thing, actually. So I wanted to debate this with you guys, because I was pulling people that. I'm like, you know, Hugh Jackman is Wolverine. He played Wolverine for 20 years. But I don't give a. When he's in other things. I'm not like, oh, it's Wolverine.
Chris Powers
Yeah.
Sean Buffini
You know, true. Like, Bale was obviously a movie star, but, like, kind of like Batman was massive for Christian Bale, where it was like, holy. And no one's like, christian Bale can't be on other stuff. That's Batman. It's certainly not going to happen to Robert Pattinson. It's. It's even Chris. Chris Evans, who was like, so Steve Rogers is like, I'll just be in Knives Out. And I'm like, yeah, he's great. I don't care. And I was like, is this even a thing? Like, who. Who is watching Tom Holland and going, I don't like it. He's. That's Spider Man.
Dan Powers
I think a lot of people, dude,
Sean Buffini
but is he the first one in like a decade? That's what I'm saying. Like, no one has said, well, anyone else?
Dan Powers
Well, here's the thing. I think. I think a lot of the Avengers
Sean Buffini
suffer from it, but Downey Jr goes into Oppenheimer and no one goes, well, I think.
Chris Powers
Isn't typecasting what you're describing is like, role casting. It's like, it's not about like, Matthew McConaughey was like the romance guy.
Sean Buffini
Yeah.
Dan Powers
He was a rom com type guy
Chris Powers
and he had the McConaissance.
Sean Buffini
Yep. Like, there are plenty of Typecast guys,
Chris Powers
but it's like, in the world, how many roles prior to Marvel were people like, oh, like Pierce Brosnan was. Was 007. Like, he can't. I can't see him as anything other than 007. Now it's like, I don't think that was ever an argument. I think it was only because Marvel was like, here's your 15 movies that you're gonna have to be in.
Dan Powers
Isn't it weird how Liam Neeson typecast himself after, like 30 years in the business? He just did Taken, which was like an indie movie.
Sean Buffini
Yeah, yeah.
Dan Powers
And then it was like this. Oh, you're strictly an action guy now, dude.
Sean Buffini
When he. And he. He was like 50 when he got Taken.
Dan Powers
That's what I'm saying. He was like 30 years in the business with like an Oscar nomination, and then he was like this. I'm taken. And he was like, kind of old.
Chris Powers
Yeah.
Dan Powers
And people were like, this, Is this gonna be good? And then it was the sickest movie ever. And now he does every random pun about a situation action movie that has ever existed.
Sean Buffini
And I love every single one of them. He's 65. How old is he? Dude, he's. He's 74. Dude. Yeah, he's 70.
Dan Powers
He's 74 and he's still kicking ass. It's awesome.
Chris Powers
Well, it's. It's like when you watch Indiana Jones now and you have Harrison Ford being an old man and all he can do is drive. So the most latest Indiana Jones, he's just driving everywh. Because he can't even, like, swing on a whip or anything. It's like the 80s generated a whole generation of action heroes. Obviously Liam Neeson's not part of that necessarily, but all those action hero actors are still acting as the action heroes. And it's like, except for like, Chris Pratt, no one else has really entered the role. I mean, what's funny is that Tom Holland tried to with the Uncharted movie.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
And it just looked like Spider man being Uncharted.
Dan Powers
You know what? I fucking love that movie.
Sean Buffini
I thought it was very fun.
Dan Powers
I can't believe that that movie does not get more appreciation because it's just like, it's a fucking video game movie and it's Mark Wahlberg and Tom Holland, and it's like, funny. There's Funny moments. And it's a good action movie.
Sean Buffini
Yeah, I'm with you. It's very much like the Rocks Jumanji to me, where I'm like, yeah, that was whatever the fact. And people, I think, had fun with it. But it did get kind of critically crushed. And I was like, why are you. Who cares?
Dan Powers
I think you're right. Hugh avoided it. But Hugh is still huge. Like, he. He said this in interviews. He was like, I got jacked for the Wolverine and I just stayed jacked.
Sean Buffini
Yeah.
Dan Powers
And I do think it's funny sometimes, like, when he's in something in a musical also, man, Like, I look at that. He did not get nominated for Prisoners, and that is insane.
Sean Buffini
That is a tragedy.
Dan Powers
But Hugh is still, like, he'll do a musical and he's amazing and everything. I think Tom Cruise definitely fell into an action type role cast for. I mean, he's been in it for a long time. We'll see what Digger is all about. But, like, Tom hasn't done a. A Few Good Men born on the 4th of July. Yeah, yeah. Rain Man. In decades.
Chris Powers
That's by his own design.
Dan Powers
Yes. And I've said a million times, I think if he did, he would win an Oscar immediately. And I'm like, do that.
Chris Powers
Maybe that's what Digger is.
Dan Powers
I think it's more like comedy. It looks like it's very goofy.
Chris Powers
I've seen the trailer.
Dan Powers
Pretty weird.
Chris Powers
First, the teaser trailer where they just went through the whole Tom Cruise library.
Alex Ovechkin
Yeah.
Chris Powers
That was like. I was like, what am I watching?
Dan Powers
I mean, I think it's like a goofy movie.
Chris Powers
Oh, very much. It seems like they made a whole movie with the same energy as his character from Tropic Tomorrow.
Sean Buffini
Agree.
Dan Powers
Agree completely. Yeah.
Sean Buffini
Which, like.
Dan Powers
Yeah, I'm fine with that. I think Evans and Hemsworth kind of suffer from it. Like, yes, they do these, like, Netflix movies. But, like, yeah, they're. You know, I think people see Thor when they see Hemsworth. Yeah. And like, the fact that Chris Evans is coming back to play a version of Steve Rogers, I'm like, oh, no, no. I'm like, I. I'm thrilled he's back. He's like my favorite character. But, like. Yeah, but, dude, you are. I mean, Tom Holland is doing such a good job. Like, the fact that he just did the Odyssey is huge. But I think a lot of people saw the Odysse in there like this. He's too Spider Man.
Chris Powers
Y. I think the weird choice in the Odyssey was the American accents, because you have a bunch of very talented British actors, some classically trained, who are doing American accents for a Greek story. Tom Holland suffered the most from this because Tom Holland hasn't gotten to show off really, on a large scale, his British accent. All of his movies that I can think of, he's doing an American accent in, and his American accent sounds like a young American kid, so it immediately gives Spider Man, Peter Parker. If he was able to use his own voice, I think people would have a much easier time seeing him differently.
Dan Powers
Could not agree more. The fact that, like, Tom Holland must have been cast in this, and he's like, yes. And then the day Nolan was like this, we are doing American accents, he must have been like, what? Like, truly. That had to have gone through his head.
Chris Powers
But it'd be funnier if he was the only one.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Sean Buffini
Yeah, dude.
Dan Powers
What's also tough with him is like, he. He's. He has a hard time. Looks wise, like, chameleoning him. He was in that movie Cherry with the. The Russo brothers did, where it was like a gritty drama. He's tried to.
Sean Buffini
He's tried to, like, really.
Dan Powers
That Patton. Right. Like, he just. He's so pretty and he's young. Like, he's. He's. He. He's 30 now, but he looks so young still. He's so. He's a beautiful man.
Sean Buffini
Yeah.
Dan Powers
He's like me in that he does not grow facial hair and that. Like, it's hard for him to look different, too.
Chris Powers
Well, I have that struggle with Leonardo DiCaprio.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
Where I've never been able. I enjoy Leonardo DiCaprio. I think he has, like, a lot of on screen charisma in every role that he's done. And I don't think that he's a bad actor at all. But he is not. He is not on board. He's not on the same kind of. Like, when people usually talk about acting and method acting and like, they talk. They talk about method acting. They talk about characters or actors who just completely change into a totally different human entirely. That's not what Leonardo DiCaprio is. At least not for me. Like, I love Wolf of Wall street, but to me, he was just the guy from Titanic as a. As a Wall street dealer. Like, it's the. I've never been unable to see him as Leonardo DiCaprio. I've never been able to suspend my disbelief to see him as another person
Dan Powers
some people suffer from. Matt Damon's voice is so awesome and is so Matt Damon, and he's just been in a lot and he's Also, he's, like, a spokesman for a lot of stuff. So I was kind of understanding when, like, Matt Damon showed up, and he's just, like, being Matt Damon. I got. People were like, it's just Matt Damon. I didn't feel that way because I think he's a great actor. But I get. I get it kind of. Leo, I think you're being harsh because, like, Leo has gone. Like, I look at Leo, I don't feel anything about Leo at all. In, like, Django, I look at Leo in.
Chris Powers
In Django, when he played Calvin Candy. Calvin Candy in Django, you saw him as a totally different person. In the same way, when you see, like, from him to Titanic to Wall street, like, you. You saw all three of those characters as being totally different humans. Like, when I look at the Revenant and I see Leo in the Revenant, I see Leo. Yeah. When I see Tom Hardy in the Revenant, he doesn't even. Every mannerism, every movement is totally different. And it's not that one type of acting is better than the other.
Dan Powers
It's just like, for you, it's better to. It's a better disguise.
Chris Powers
It's a better disguise.
Dan Powers
I think that's a fair point. I think it's a fair point.
Chris Powers
I'm gonna get so much hate in the comments.
Dan Powers
No, I do. I'm telling you. I think. I think there are a lot of people who feel the same way. Again, it's like, I mean, I love Leo. I think he's a generational actor. But I will agree with you as far as, you know, some of my favorite actors. I look at a Christian Bale, and I am. I'm like, I think Christian Bale does make me transport more than Leo does at times, if not all the time.
Chris Powers
Yeah.
Dan Powers
I mean, like, I remember, again, this was a day when the Internet wasn't as prevalent, but, like, when the Fighter came out, I was, you know, I was, like, reading as much as I could in on the Internet. That was the Internet in 2008 as well as, like, the paper. Like, I used to get Variety deliver. I would pay to get Variety delivered to me in fucking. Maybe. Because I loved movies so much, and I was so excited for that movie came when that trailer came out. I legitimately remember watching the trailer being like this. What? Like, where is Christian Bale? That's how different he looked as Dickie Eklund? I was like, oh, my God.
Chris Powers
Like, and I mean, this is more. So maybe makeup, but when you look at Colin Farrell in the Penguin, dude, I'm, like, looking for him.
Dan Powers
When the Batman trailer came out, it took people forever to figure out who he was. That's another great example.
Chris Powers
Yeah. And it's like, that's. I mean, I can't. That can't all be attributed to his acting, of course, because the makeup is amazing.
Dan Powers
Shout out makeup.
Chris Powers
But, like, it's definitely a big part of it is that you can't even see it in the eyes.
Dan Powers
All right, let's get into fraud watch and top hits. Do you want to start us? Sure.
Chris Powers
I.
Sean Buffini
My fraud watch is. I want to figure out how to phrase this. I got jury duty again. And I've actually been lucky because you call. You call at night, and they're like, we don't need you. And I'm like, great. So I'm. I'm three for three on. Don't need me. And I'm pretty sure if you go the whole week, then you're good. But I. My fraud watch is the jury system, the legal system. Because I swear, the, like, a jury of your peers made perfect sense when we were, like, a small colony of people, you know? And it was like, yeah, like, you did a bad thing. Steve did something.
Chris Powers
You know, what's great is that you're gonna be able to use this clip now to get out of jury duty for the rest of your life. Cause you're like, I don't believe in the judicial system, dude.
Sean Buffini
The times I've had jury duty, the judges, like, rant and rave about how, like, this is what the. This country was built on, like, this jury. And I'm like, dude, we. First of all. What's it called? There's a physical word for picking a jury. That's a. That's a term. That's like a lawyer term. That is a. Is a skill, you know, and it's. Which implies it's being manipulated. You know, they're like, we're trying to get the person who has.
Dan Powers
Do you mean, like the. It says jury selection is formally called voir dire.
Sean Buffini
Yeah, voir dire. I almost said that, but I was like, that feels too insane to be correct. But it was just insane to be right. Just insane enough to be right. Voir dire implies that we are manipulating the jury. We're selecting the jury of our peers on purpose to get our result. You know, it's not just, like, a random draw. The fact that we let the lawyers interview the jury. I'm like, what?
Chris Powers
Yeah, well, the alternative is that you just, like, throw out a random net, and you come in, you're like, all right, so we have a construction worker, a homeless man, a drag queen. And you're just kind of like, this is the most random, eclectic group.
Sean Buffini
That's the point of it. They were like, no, it is a random net. And yo, bad net this time. Tough break. And I'm like, yeah, tough break. It's the random collection of your peers. Not a picked one, you idiots. And dude, it's like those people. And the reason you just said that, and I agree with you, is because those people should not be deciding the life of another man to the point that I'm like, being a juror should be a job. Like literally that you get a salary from the government. And. And there shouldn't just be 12, obviously. There should be a shitload of them.
Chris Powers
There should be like 12 judges.
Sean Buffini
You are a jury. Like, you are educated in the law and like, you have, have other cases to pull from in your life where you're like, oh, yeah, this case did that. So this, you know, you are used to evidence.
Chris Powers
It's entirely the entire population. It's like you can just log on at any time onto a website and just vote a yes or no on everything to scroll through, like Tinder, swipe left if you think he's guilty. Yeah.
Sean Buffini
So the preposterous nature of our current legal system is. Is. And I, you know, I'm not, I'm not certainly going to spend the rest of my life fixing the legal system.
Dan Powers
But.
Sean Buffini
But it just feels so flawed to me in a million ways. Starting very much with the jury selection, which everyone fucking hates. It's manipulated. It's bad. The fact that we don't have high paid jobs that are like, hey, you help out deciding court cases is insane.
Dan Powers
Yeah. I listen, as someone who just went through multiple jury duty situations, I completely agree.
Chris Powers
I haven't done jury before.
Dan Powers
Well, shush.
Chris Powers
I'd like to.
Dan Powers
I think you would, right? You would not.
Sean Buffini
Jesus Christ.
Dan Powers
All right.
Chris Powers
I think I'd like the power.
Dan Powers
That's why you won't get selected.
Sean Buffini
Yeah.
Dan Powers
My fraud watch is hoarders. It's getting to that time of year where a lot of people are moving. Yeah. And I'm seeing some of my, my neighbors moving and I'm seeing the U haul trucks and this and that. And I was watching this couple moving out and they were having this conversation. They had all these boxes and they were loading boxes into a U Haul and the guy picked up a box and looked in it and he goes, what is in here? And she was like, well, it's this. And she was saying all this stuff that he just did not want to hear, and he was like, just throw that fucking box away.
Sean Buffini
And
Dan Powers
I just. I think it is a massive issue with human beings. And I know people on this show know that I'm not the biggest nostalgia guy, but we just got to be throwing more shit away, dude. We've got to be giving stuff away, selling stuff, throwing stuff away.
Chris Powers
I think the one people always struggle with is the. The box that your iPhone comes in. It's always so, so well made. It's, like, hard to bring yourself to get rid of it. It's such an expensive device.
Dan Powers
It's. It's any Apple product.
Sean Buffini
God.
Chris Powers
Yeah.
Dan Powers
It's your iPhone. It's your. It's your MacBook. It is your AirPods. Like, people take them out and they're like this. Well, I might need this at some point. And I'm like, why?
Chris Powers
I find that, like, the people I know who are the polar opposite of hoarders and always have their. Their phone box. Yeah.
Sean Buffini
It's the one thing, dude.
Dan Powers
It's just. I mean, it's. It happens with clothes. I still do it. I. I try to. Every six months, I try to do a culling of my wardrobe because I'm like, what have I not worn for the last six months?
Chris Powers
And do you donate your clothes? Yep. Do you burn it in front of the homeless?
Dan Powers
I. I find a homeless person and I go, what didn't. Wouldn't you love to have this sweatshirt? And they go, yes. And then I just light it on fire. It's already been soaked. He goes, it looks pretty cool. It smells like gas. And I go, I' July.
Sean Buffini
Yeah.
Dan Powers
But it's just like, dude, hoarding is crazy because I believe firmly and let's not even get into, like, real.
Sean Buffini
Yeah, yeah.
Dan Powers
Let's talk about the casual hoarder like you.
Sean Buffini
Yeah.
Dan Powers
The. The people who are like this. Well, I want to keep it because, like, maybe I'll reference it someday. I would bet that 99% of the time you do not reference it. That like. Like, go look at it or go use it or do it. I truly. 99% of the time, a trinket it or. Or clothes, anything.
Sean Buffini
Yeah.
Dan Powers
Like, I know that you keep clothes for a number of reasons, and a lot of people are like you. They go, well, I wore this shirt or this thing at this point in my life, so it means something to me. Or you go, but what if something pops up where I need exactly this shirt?
Sean Buffini
Yeah.
Dan Powers
To that I say 99 first of all, you have the memory. You don't need the thing. So get rid of it. Take a picture of it if you want.
Sean Buffini
Yeah.
Dan Powers
And then secondly, the. Well, what if I need. Just buy it, dude. If that thing comes up in your life, buy a new shirt that is like that. Get rid of it. Get more space in your house. Get less clutter in your life.
Sean Buffini
I've done, I've done the second one, or I used to do both. Now I'm now on board with the second one where I'm like, who gives a fuck?
Chris Powers
Yeah.
Sean Buffini
The first one. I still do. And I don't begrudge myself doing, like, I know. You go, get rid of it. Take a picture. I assure you, what I will never do is go scroll back through my camera roll and go, oh, here's that picture of that shirt that has this memory.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Sean Buffini
I will never do that. I do go through my closet and go, oh, this shirt. And I see it and it. And it hits me. It gives me a spark of joy. Yeah. So I'm going to keep doing that one. But you're right about number two.
Chris Powers
Correct, Sean, the species of cats. I don't like cats. I've had enough of them. They do nothing happen.
Sean Buffini
Does this include big cats?
Chris Powers
Did something ever happen to make you think that cats are not.
Dan Powers
No, Listen, I'm not a cat guy.
Chris Powers
Yeah.
Dan Powers
I've seen a couple cute cats in my life and like cats that have made me laugh. But I, I, I won't lie. I do sort of have the. I don't really get them. I don't get the appeal.
Sean Buffini
I have. I used to not like cats at all. I've come around on them in that I have friends that have some cats that I like that I go, that cat's cool. Never mind. But I am definitely not gonna get a cat. I'm not that guy.
Dan Powers
You just, like, can't play with a cat cat or cuddle with a cat, by and large, as much as you can with a dog. So you just, like, have an animal that's in your house that, like, I
Chris Powers
mean, more pragmatic than that. I mean, dogs can sniff out cancer and help police officers solve crimes. A cat's never solved a crime. Good point. Cats don't stop bomb threats at airports.
Sean Buffini
Good point.
Chris Powers
Cats just scratch you and stick their asshole in your face.
Dan Powers
That's all. Those things do happen.
Chris Powers
And like, when people say, you know, there's a certain subsection of our audience that's definitely gonna hate me now after I'm going from Astrology to cats.
Sean Buffini
I.
Chris Powers
A big.
Dan Powers
There's definitely a big intersection on that for sure.
Chris Powers
But I think that, that when someone says that they are a cat person, that means that they're just weird, straight up. And it's not just because, oh, you like cats. You must be weird. It's like, no. By liking cats, you admit that you're not a people person. By liking cats, you admit that you don't understand what the social norms are, that you are acceptable, that this thing that hates you, you're going to attach yourself to it. And every type of abuse that this animal treats you with, you're going to be like, oh, he's so cute. He's scratching the out of me right now. But he's so cute. He sheds everywhere. But it's so great. And it's like, you know, at the end of the day, the cat's useless. I know that dogs also help, like, medical patients when, like, alerting them when they're going to have, like, a seizure and stuff like that.
Dan Powers
I mean, there is like a, you know, like, cat lady is a term. Dog lady's not a term.
Chris Powers
Yeah, dog lady's not a term.
Dan Powers
I will say I'm going to put a little notch in the cats. I love the Egyptian lore with cats. That's kind of cool.
Sean Buffini
Oh, that is cool.
Dan Powers
And then also, I think it's kind of sick how sometimes when people have, like, rat infestations, they just release cats in there and they're like this, Let the cats take care of it.
Chris Powers
Yeah, but have you seen those videos where cats are just, like, looking at the mice and stuff? Which, by the way, mice are objectively, objectively cuter than cats. I think mice are great.
Dan Powers
Wow.
Chris Powers
And I think if you have a mice infestation in your house, you should handle it humanely. Instead of having, like, another animal rip it apart.
Sean Buffini
What about fucking hammering them with hockey sticks till they're all dead?
Chris Powers
Let's not talk about that.
Dan Powers
I was going to say, are you doing this on purpose, bringing this moment up?
Chris Powers
I am. I'm going to guess that you have a story behind what you just told.
Dan Powers
You don't. You haven't heard this.
Chris Powers
I have not heard this.
Dan Powers
Oh, so that you weren't on the pod that day? Yeah, dude, there were mice in my house. And I like, with my father.
Sean Buffini
Yeah.
Dan Powers
Bashed in the skull of, like, eight mice with a hockey stick. And it was like the worst moment of my life. Yeah. I hated every second. Second event.
Sean Buffini
They were screaming.
Chris Powers
Growing up, I had a bunch of pet Hamsters. Well, it was a boy and a girl hamster, and so they made more hamsters and the hamster escaped, and the hamsters were living in my ceiling for a long time. And we caught them all eventually after like, a month. Yeah.
Sean Buffini
And then what would them.
Chris Powers
Just put them back in the cage?
Sean Buffini
Oh, just raise them. Raise them like your own.
Chris Powers
It was like a game.
Sean Buffini
It was great.
Dan Powers
All right, bring it back around. What is your top hit?
Sean Buffini
Okay, my top hit is this. Celebrities Going out in Disguise.
Dan Powers
Whoa.
Sean Buffini
I love it. It's just. It's got real estate in my brain. Ryan Reynolds just did it at Comic Con where he dressed up in an authentic Deadpool and was just walking around and people and was just taking pictures of people, and they were like, oh, look at this fucking guy. He's dressed as Deadpool. And then later he posts like, that was me. You know, and it's awesome. I love that shit. And I love an Uncle Drew situation for the sports fans out there when an athlete gets all costumed up and then is, like, playing street ball. And they're like, this guy's. This old guy's nasty. And I'm like, it's Kyrie. You know, any. Any. Cool. Wow. That was actually a celebrity.
Dan Powers
Does it have to be a. For a spectacle of something like this? Like, what if a celebrity put on a disguise just to, like, go to a movie and be, like, a normal person and go see Spider Man?
Sean Buffini
I think that is also very cool. But that doesn't tickle my heart the way this does. Like, that's cool because I'm like, I'm glad you had a normal moment.
Dan Powers
So you have a reveal at the end to surprise all the fans.
Alex Ovechkin
To.
Sean Buffini
To bring joy when celebrities go out in disguise to bring joy to people. Yeah, that. I really. I'm always like, that. That'll stop me in my tracks on any. On any doom scroll. I'm like, oh, this celebrity was out just making people happy.
Dan Powers
Who would be the funniest? Like, would be cool if someone who's not, like, an actor or an athlete did that? Like, what if. Like.
Sean Buffini
Well, then would anyone care?
Dan Powers
Well, but there are other celebrities. Like, what if it's like a. Like a politician?
Sean Buffini
Oh, well, here's a good. Oh, okay. Well, I don't know if this counts, but there's. Who's that? What's the guy with the British talk show where people drink and he's. Graham Norton.
Dan Powers
Graham.
Sean Buffini
Graham Norton did a thing where he had an Adele lookalike.
Dan Powers
Oh, yeah. It's one of the Great videos of all time.
Sean Buffini
And then Adele's there and she said like, that is another. I'm like, amazing. You know, those women are like, holy fuck.
Dan Powers
That was one of the great videos of all time.
Sean Buffini
Yeah. So musicians I would. I love.
Chris Powers
Yep.
Sean Buffini
Politician, I guess. But I just don't think they're not that cool. I'm like, whatever.
Dan Powers
Yeah, I'm into this.
Sean Buffini
It's just so fun. I'm like, oh, that was great. Yeah. Like, I think if Tom Hanks was dressed as Woody at Disney and was like, walking around the Pixar area and everyone was like, oh, you're getting your pictures with Woody. And then later it was like, Tom Hanks was like, that was me.
Dan Powers
I'd be like, interesting that you chose an animated character.
Sean Buffini
That's why it'd be really funny if he was in the Tom Hanks costume.
Alex Ovechkin
I.
Dan Powers
But I think.
Sean Buffini
Or I mean, in the Woody.
Chris Powers
Yeah. Because you wouldn't. You have no idea.
Sean Buffini
Yeah.
Dan Powers
What do you mean? You don't, like. Is he putting a mask on?
Chris Powers
Yeah. Like Disneyland. Have you.
Dan Powers
I was like, what? He's just, like, dressed like wood. Do people go, that's Tom Hanks? Yeah.
Sean Buffini
No, he's got a whole.
Chris Powers
You're expecting, like, Tom Hanks.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Chris Powers
I have no idea who this person is.
Sean Buffini
Reach for this now.
Dan Powers
That's a good idea.
Sean Buffini
Yeah, that'd be awesome.
Dan Powers
All right. You're going to love this one, Sean. My top hit this week is potatoes. Yeah, they're the best tape potato. Potatoes are my top hit because I feel like we went through this decade long period where big fitness tried to convince us that potatoes were bad for us. Like, there was a real. A truly. This, like, long stretch where I didn't eat potatoes because people were like, oh, potatoes. It's just like sludge in your body. It's just starch. It's terrible for you. Blah, blah, blah. And finally someone did actual research and science with it, and nutritionists and stuff were like, potatoes are incredible for you. You should absolutely eat them all.
Chris Powers
It's hard to believe this thing that tastes so good.
Dan Powers
Yeah.
Sean Buffini
Yeah, dude. I do feel that way about sweet potatoes. Usually everything that's good is bad for you and you can make stuff good, but it's not good. And sweet potatoes is one of the rare things in life where I'm like, this cannot be good.
Dan Powers
I feel like the loaded baked potato became a thing and people were just putting a full stick of butter and sour cream and bacon and cheese on it. And then someone was like, this. Potatoes are bad.
Chris Powers
For you.
Dan Powers
But like, that's good.
Chris Powers
They're good for your soul.
Dan Powers
But that's also not how you have to eat potatoes.
Sean Buffini
You don't have to do that.
Dan Powers
There are so many forms that survived
Sean Buffini
on Mars on potatoes. Yes.
Dan Powers
But yeah, the fitness world and like the nutritionist.
Sean Buffini
Yeah, correct.
Dan Powers
They've kind of been like, potatoes are back. And that fires me up because I love potatoes.
Chris Powers
Yeah. I, I, yeah. I mean, everyone always, you know, Irish potatoes, blah, blah. I'm like. But they are kind of sick. Have you ever had a bad potato?
Sean Buffini
I think not. I think not. I think.
Dan Powers
Do you guys have a favorite form of potato?
Sean Buffini
Tater tots is my favorite form of potato.
Chris Powers
Good one.
Sean Buffini
Yep. That's a good one. But if you want to talk. No, I mean, I know that counts. Dude. Tater tots is my answer.
Dan Powers
Tater tots is your answer.
Chris Powers
Sean. This is a big, big choice.
Dan Powers
This is true Sophie's choice for him.
Chris Powers
I mean, have you ever had croquettes?
Dan Powers
Oh, yeah.
Sean Buffini
Fucking awesome.
Chris Powers
Yeah. I mean, I'll put it down as croquettes.
Sean Buffini
Okay, that's good.
Alex Ovechkin
Good.
Chris Powers
I mean, does that count?
Dan Powers
Yeah, sure.
Chris Powers
Yeah.
Dan Powers
If I'm going fancy. I love a scalloped potato.
Sean Buffini
Bobby Ryan, very happy to hear that.
Dan Powers
Otherwise, I, I think just roast. I love a roast potato.
Sean Buffini
Oh, really? Wow.
Dan Powers
Yeah, like the, the smaller, smaller ones. Cuz they've always got like great, like, like an oil and rosemary vibe on there. If you're doing it right and like doing an actual roast, it's got like the duck fat or like the beef fat from it on it too, but like skewer in a roast potato on it, popping it in fucking.
Sean Buffini
That's awesome.
Dan Powers
That's amazing.
Chris Powers
All right, so I've been debating for years whether when you sit down on a toilet seat after someone else has been sitting on it and it's warm, whether that's nasty or nice.
Dan Powers
Wow.
Chris Powers
And I think I have come to the conclusion that it is, it is nice.
Sean Buffini
Dude, I cannot believe people think it's nasty. I love it. It brings me such great joy. In fact, I, if I have a big dump coming, I wish I could pay someone. Someone to go warm it up for me.
Dan Powers
Yeah, pal. Nice homes have heated seats.
Sean Buffini
Yeah, well, because it is a delicacy. Like, I can't, can't believe that this, this thing people pay for. It is a high end toilet. And then, and then I get delicacy
Dan Powers
as, as opposed to luxury.
Sean Buffini
Luxury.
Dan Powers
So good.
Sean Buffini
Yeah. And then, and I get it for free. And then people go Ew. And I'm like, ew.
Chris Powers
I. First of all, it does. It feels nice. If you didn't know that germs existed, if we were like medieval peasants, yeah, we didn't know about germs. We thought it was just bad spirits, made people sick. Sitting down on the toilet seat after someone else has warmed up for you would be the better experience. You don't get that shock of a cold ceramic seat on your bum. But the thing that makes it gross is thinking about, oh, someone else is sitting here with their dirty ass. It's, like, gross. There's, like, germs. But for it to cool down, if you were to say, I'm going to wait for it to cool down, the germs will have multiplied.
Sean Buffini
Correct.
Dan Powers
So get in quick.
Chris Powers
You know, you have to get in there quick anyway to get the minimal amount of germs. If you have no option to wipe it down.
Sean Buffini
You know, it depends on where the toilet is and who was sitting first. I can understand that. But it's the. The implication that, like, my hamstring is so gross, you know, Like, I'm just. I'm just sitting.
Dan Powers
Well, I mean, listen, there are people out there that I could see come out of a stall before me me, that I'd be like, that's what I said. I don't want your cheeks.
Chris Powers
I don't think people have a problem with your asses. Yeah, I think people have a problem with guys like my ass.
Sean Buffini
No, no, no. That's what I'm saying. You're a clean guy.
Dan Powers
You're cool. He established you're cool. I'm thrilled to squat on a toilet,
Sean Buffini
and I make this commentary about a lot of things, but it's a fact.
Alex Ovechkin
The.
Sean Buffini
My hams. My upper hamstring touching a seat that. That honestly, pick anyone their upper hamstring touched is way less detrimental to my health than my hand touching the doorknob that that same person's hand just touched.
Chris Powers
Including, like, which we've established that you don't wash your hands either, so.
Sean Buffini
Because then I'm going to put that hand in my mouth, you know, like, there's just so much shit's going to happen where my upper hamstring is just like, yeah, we went butt, but.
Chris Powers
Well, I'll hit you with a. With a bonus one as well. You ever try peeing sitting down, dude? Sean, It's a luxury that a lot of guys don't give them.
Sean Buffini
I.
Dan Powers
It's funny that you say this. I recently on this show said that men should be peeing sitting down more. And I was like, I'm going to be called a beta cuck for this. But dude, I, I was going all in on my take of, dude, we are disgusting. Like, I. When you pee in a urinal or in your toilet, pee is just splashing everywhere and your bathroom is just covered in piss residue. But it's like, I, I listen pnc. And sitting down is. It's delightful. You get to rest.
Chris Powers
It's a nice little treat.
Dan Powers
But listen, I, I have. I like this take by you because I'm like, if it's the thought of going in to the bathroom and sitting down on a toilet after like a loved one or like your partner, that would be amazing. I'm like, it's like we're pressing butts, dude.
Sean Buffini
That's what I'm saying, dude.
Dan Powers
So I'm in warm toilet seat and
Sean Buffini
I'm telling you, I'm gonna start going. Cassandra, I have to go to the bathroom in five minutes. Please go sit down.
Dan Powers
I would really. I would really like you to go in there and sit on that. I think that's a great idea.
Chris Powers
You know what? This is another shark tank idea. They should make toilet seat warmers. Not into it. Ones that you place on top of your Sarah. Interesting. So you can buy it for like $10 at Walmart. It just warms electric bill. Yeah, exactly.
Dan Powers
I mean, you've got to have your dumps planned out pretty specifically.
Sean Buffini
No, Sean, I want a, like, not a sex doll, but I want a doll. Well, that I put.
Dan Powers
And then what else are you gonna use that doll for?
Sean Buffini
There's no holes in the doll there. There's no holes in the doll.
Chris Powers
I just.
Dan Powers
You're a pretty crafty guy, buddy. I'm sure you'd figure it out very quickly.
Chris Powers
Have you ever tried sitting on like a soft toilet seat? Yeah, those are nasty. I don't like the feel of a.
Dan Powers
I feel like you always found them in an old person's home in the 90s.
Chris Powers
Well, people love them. Yeah, people notoriously firm butts. So they need to have soft toilet seats.
Dan Powers
Well, I think they just old people, they lose the fat and the muscle on their butts and now it's just bone on.
Chris Powers
Yes, firm was the. Firm implies, like taut. That was the. That was the wrong bony.
Dan Powers
Like a. Bony butts.
Chris Powers
Bony butts.
Dan Powers
You wait till you get old and you squat your bony butt on.
Chris Powers
I'm already caked up. Wow. Gonna have a whole bakery back there. Yeah.
Dan Powers
So many potatoes.
Chris Powers
So many potatoes. I'm going to eat
Sean Buffini
oh, my God.
Dan Powers
All right, all right. We've been talking a lot about Spider Man. Let's wrap things up with a blind ranking. Spider man movies.
Sean Buffini
So any three Toby's, two Garfields, two Spider Verses, three Hollands.
Dan Powers
Oh, me. The Spider Verses are in here too?
Sean Buffini
Yep.
Dan Powers
Holy gas.
Sean Buffini
So that's what you get.
Dan Powers
No Avengers movies, though.
Sean Buffini
No. Because those are not Spider Man.
Dan Powers
Okay. They have to be Spider Man.
Sean Buffini
Yep.
Dan Powers
Something. Okay. All right, I'm ready.
Chris Powers
Spider Man 2002.
Sean Buffini
So is that, Is that Toby's first one? Spider Man.
Chris Powers
That's Toby's first one.
Sean Buffini
I love this movie. I know it's not your favorite Toby, but I fucking love this movie. This is the first time I, I personally saw a superhero movie where I was like, I want to be. I wish I was Spider Man. I literally walked out being like, I need to get bitten by a spider immediately.
Dan Powers
It also did every everything for superhero movies.
Sean Buffini
High scores. Movie of all time for a while
Dan Powers
for what it did. It deserves to be so high. But like, I, I, I think three.
Sean Buffini
Okay. I want to go two, but there's like, there's, there's a version of what he gives me where I live with three. So I'm okay to do it with you, but I think this movie is so good.
Dan Powers
It is. It's incredible. But I just, I have to, I am going to fight here. I have to go three.
Sean Buffini
Okay, three.
Chris Powers
All right. Spider man into the spider verse 2018. Which is the first one?
Sean Buffini
Yep. This movie's awesome. And this is one of the ones I could live with being over. You're supposed to go one. This kid's out of his fucking mind, dude. He's about to go.
Dan Powers
I legitimately, I think, think one.
Sean Buffini
Okay. That movie is so sick.
Dan Powers
Is so fucking good.
Sean Buffini
Yep.
Dan Powers
Oh, man.
Sean Buffini
Okay. Okay.
Dan Powers
Okay. Fuck this.
Sean Buffini
Actually, I'll do it, dude. I'll do it. Because there's one other one that I want more, but I could hear why you won't want it more. But, but it's okay. And I will live with this being. I will live with this being one.
Chris Powers
Yeah.
Dan Powers
I mean, like, it, man. It's like there are others that I hear so funny. But, like, this is in the argument if we had all of them on. So I'm like, I'm going to take it at 1.
Sean Buffini
I'll take it when we got it. Good point, Good point. Take it. What we got bird in hand. One.
Chris Powers
All right. Spider Man Homecoming 2017.
Sean Buffini
That's the first Tom Holland.
Dan Powers
Love this movie. My knees. My knee jerk says Four,
Sean Buffini
actually. Yes. Because I need to save five, so. Yes.
Dan Powers
And like I said, I love. Yeah. I think Toby's first is better than homecoming.
Sean Buffini
Oh, me too. And I also think this is my least favorite Holland, which is crazy because I thought it was great. Yeah.
Dan Powers
Wow. That's.
Sean Buffini
It's a testament to how good all three are.
Dan Powers
Yeah, they're really good. He's making a case for the goat.
Sean Buffini
Yep.
Chris Powers
The Amazing Spider Man 2. 2014.
Dan Powers
The Amazing Spider Man 2.
Sean Buffini
Yes.
Chris Powers
Live.
Sean Buffini
That's Jamie Foxx.
Dan Powers
That's Jamie Foxx.
Sean Buffini
Yeah.
Dan Powers
That has nothing to do with Jamie Foxx. No, no, no.
Sean Buffini
I was just place in the movie. But that's the one that is actually the better of the two, I think.
Dan Powers
Oh, I disagree.
Sean Buffini
Because that's when Gwen dies. That's actually so sad.
Dan Powers
But you're picking one moment.
Sean Buffini
Yeah. It's the best. It's the best part of all Garfields. Not because she's dead. It was just.
Dan Powers
Jesus Christ.
Sean Buffini
She's just very emotional.
Dan Powers
Guy hates Emma.
Sean Buffini
Really good scene. Really good scene.
Dan Powers
Hates Emma Stone.
Sean Buffini
Really good scene. Okay, so if we say five here, we will only have two left.
Dan Powers
Yes. And we are staring down the barrel of a perfect list.
Sean Buffini
We're staring down the barrel of a perfect list. Or a dagger.
Dan Powers
I don't know. I don't know. We'll see.
Sean Buffini
5.
Chris Powers
Spider Man 3, 2007.
Sean Buffini
That was my fear. That was my fear. And listen, I would.
Dan Powers
You know what? Danny would be over here being like this. This is a great list. It's a great list. But we have Spider Man 3 over Spider Man 1, and that is a disaster.
Sean Buffini
That is a disaster. And, dude, there is a little justice for Spider Man 3. It's not that bad. But it is just that one section when he's.
Dan Powers
I disagree. I think Venom was poorly used.
Sean Buffini
Me too. But it's not that bad.
Dan Powers
It's not that bad. No. Spider Man 3 is a good movie.
Sean Buffini
Full gossip.
Dan Powers
Spider Man 3 is a good movie.
Sean Buffini
Why?
Dan Powers
But at the end of the day,
Chris Powers
like Saturday Night Fever. Spider Man. You don't like Emo Parker.
Sean Buffini
What are we doing?
Chris Powers
Bully Parker.
Sean Buffini
Yeah. Yeah. God damn it.
Dan Powers
At the end of the day, I still think that this is a very good list.
Sean Buffini
It's a list. We can.
Dan Powers
We have one misstep.
Sean Buffini
Yeah, we have one misstep.
Dan Powers
Otherwise.
Sean Buffini
But otherwise, I feel good. Not too bad.
Dan Powers
All right, that wraps it up for this episode. Hope you enjoyed the Alexander Ovechkin interview. Unbelievable. Also, if you haven't checked it out, go check out Sci Fi section. Our first episode is out reviewing Red Rising that'll be coming out every week as we go through that unbelievable series. For all of you sci fi and fantasy book lovers, it is the best thing you will watch all year, I guarantee it. Like subscribe. Throw us all those subscribes. Let's get to 100k.
Sean Buffini
Let's get to 100k.
Dan Powers
We're right around the corner. Come on babes, let's do it. Send it around. We love you guys. Have an amazing, safe, happy, fun weekend until we see you next week. Week.
Sean Buffini
Skate hard.
Date: July 30, 2026
Hosts: Dan Powers, Sean Buffini, Chris Powers
Special Guest: Alex Ovechkin
This episode is a celebration of hockey legends—focusing on breaking NHL contract news and an in-depth, wide-ranging interview with Alex Ovechkin. The hosts (former competitive players turned irreverent podcasters) bring their signature blend of deep analysis, insider anecdotes, and playful banter as they break down superstar contracts, market dynamics, and Ovechkin’s place in hockey history. The highlight is a candid, rarely seen side of Ovechkin, spanning his decision to return, his historic career, on-ice rituals, and behind-the-scenes antics, delivered with humor and humility.
(00:27–24:32)
Notable Quote:
"Mac and dude and deserves every fucking penny. Absolute mega star. Future of the league. ... Trending to go down as one of the best to ever do it." — Sean Buffini (03:24)
Memorable Moment:
"When you give Mac $18.8M, ... you've got Adam Fantilli who's like, needs a contract, and he sees that Leo deal, and he's like, I don't care. I am a future star for this team. Will is the same way, dude... I'm not gonna take seven here." — Dan Powers (07:06)
(24:32–27:32)
(31:03–66:41)
(Highlights, tones, and quotes from the segment that defines this episode)
(66:41–67:29)
(68:21–107:57)
(108:10–112:33)
On Celebrini’s contract:
Ovechkin on breaking the Gretzky record:
Ovechkin’s water bottle myth:
On the Capitals’ Cup win:
Pass, Shoot, Score – beer edition:
On rivalry and friendship with Crosby:
The show blends insider humor, deep knowledge, and authenticity. Hosts are brash and playful but pivot seamlessly to moments of genuine admiration (for Ovechkin’s humility, for the gravity of team bonds, for the craziness of NHL contract culture). Ovechkin is open, funny, and deeply grateful—a rare look at a living legend.
This episode is a perfect introduction to Empty Netters: hockey nerdom meets locker room chaos, with legendary access and humility. You’ll get:
Skip the ads, strap on your helmet, and enjoy one of the all-time greats being candid, funny, and uniquely human with podcasters as passionate as the fans.