The Habs Hit Another Level And The Avs Finally Bleed

Summary

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Empty Netters Podcast – "The Habs Hit Another Level And The Avs Finally Bleed"

Host: Almost Friday Media
Date: May 11, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this packed episode, the Empty Netters brothers break down a wild second round in the Stanley Cup playoffs, focusing on the surging Montreal Canadiens, the goaltending carousel in Buffalo and Colorado, the feisty Vegas-Anaheim matchup, and a thorough stroke-session for the double-sweeping Carolina Hurricanes. Sprinkled throughout are their usual stories from the weekend and an extended, heartfelt interview with the Goudreau family ahead of their 5K charity event.

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Hockey Banter & Life Updates

From Beer League to Beast Games

• The episode opens with hosts Dan and Chris recapping their wild, sleep-deprived weekend, including missed Taco Bell orders and a binge of “Beast Games Season 2” with friends.

  • Memorable Moment:

    “Locks goes, ‘You will not fucking believe this...’ and then goes like this, bro, see you later. And just sleeps till the Taco Bell gets here. And I'm now dialed into Beast Games.” — Chris (03:07)

• The hosts joke about their perpetual exhaustion and their partners, before pivoting to the hockey talk.

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Montreal Canadiens vs. Buffalo Sabres: Habs Hit Another Level

Dominance at the Bell Centre

• Main Story: Montreal demolishes Buffalo, winning home games with massive offensive surges.
• Montreal, red hot, hasn’t lost back-to-back games all playoffs and always responds.
• “Habs are way ahead of schedule… The fact that Zuke had 100 points this year, Cole scored 50 goals… it’s all so unbelievable.” — Dan (31:46)
• The Bell Centre crowd is described as “nuclear” and a key factor; Habs fans back online in full force, with tongue-in-cheek arrogance:

  • “The amount of… ‘Lane Hudson is better than Kael Makar’ tweets I saw last night were incredible.” — Dan (30:13)

Key Players

• Lane Hudson: Receiving outsized praise for dynamic play and highlight assists.
• Dobes (Jakub Dobeš): Nasty in net, stonewalling Buffalo with .966 and .929 SV% in Games 2 & 3 (26:09).
• Kirby Dach & Newhook: Both have had multi-goal games and are making key contributions.

Buffalo’s Goaltending Dilemma & Playoff Mind Games

• Big question: Who starts next game, UPL (Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen) or Lyon?

• Extended debate on the age-old playoff theory: If you start swapping goalies multiple times, can you really win a Cup?

  • “If you swap goalies, you cannot win a Stanley Cup.” — Dan (11:46)
  • “You're not losing the Cup because you're goalie switching. You’re losing because neither of these goalies can win a Cup.” — Chris (19:10)

• Playoff emotional swings:

  • “Game four is must win for Buffalo.” — Dan (26:06)

• Off-ice, much love for Montreal’s fan base, especially for their humor and bravado:

  • “They’re so arrogant, but it’s always done with jest.” — Dan (29:56)

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Colorado Avalanche vs. Minnesota Wild: The Avs Finally Bleed

Changing of the Guard in Net

• Avalanche up 2-1 after the Wild, led by Jesper Wallstedt, bounce back for a Game 3 win.

• “That was such an awesome game from the Wild. And it starts with Wallstedt for me. He played so well.” — Dan (38:49)

• The Avs’ goalie rotation between Wedgwood and Blackwood becomes a central debate:

  • “If you start Blackwood and the Wild beat the shit out of you... and then you go, well, fuck, what do I do?” — Dan (37:34)
  • “We have literally never seen [goalie rest rotation] in the history of the Stanley Cup Playoffs.” — Dan (22:10)

Notable, Hilarious Moment: “Nate Dogg’s Flippies”

• Video of Nathan MacKinnon swimming in a hotel pool with goggles and flippers causes fan controversy.
  • “Swimming in flippies... is a blast, dude.” — Dan (43:04)
  • “If the whole [Minnesota] crowd doesn't have goggles on tonight, then they have fucked up so badly.” — Chris (49:15)
• The hosts defend MacKinnon: Relaxation and fun are key between games.
• Hoped-for fan response: Wild fans showing up in goggles to chirp MacKinnon.

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Vegas Golden Knights vs. Anaheim Ducks: Slept-On Slugfest

Down to the Wire: Ducks Find Grit

• Ducks bounce back at home, tying the series; atmosphere in the Honda Center praised as “standing room only, loud fucking arena.” (66:41)
  • “That was a great playoff environment… It is a totally different vibe.” — Dan (66:41)
• Recent Ducks wins are not “house money” upsets—they’re legit, with impressive depth and fight.
• Beckett, age 20, stands out for fighting back against Vegas’ Dowd: “Even with taking the penalty. I loved that because it was a young player going, ‘bring it on, buddy.’” — Dan (61:46)

Power Play and Empty Nets Matter

• Anaheim’s power play comes back to life (after an 0-15 stretch).
• Emphasis on importance of empty net goals—nearly a disaster as Vegas scored late after a missed Ducks empty netter:
  • “It is unbelievable how often the pulled goalie works.” — Dan (63:51)
• Tomas Hertl scoring late bodes well for Knights, but Mark Stone’s recurring injuries are a major concern:
  • “Is Mark Stone quite literally the most injury prone player to ever live?” — Chris (69:43)

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Carolina Hurricanes: Double Sweep, Double Glaze

History Made: 8–0 Start

• Hurricanes finish back-to-back sweeps (vs. Flyers and earlier opponent). First since 1985 Oilers; “and we know what they did—they won the f***ing Cup.” — Chris (71:31)
• “All they've done these playoffs is show that they were the best team in the East all year.” — Dan (82:00)
• The hosts issue a warning to online haters:
  • “Put some respect on the Cane’s name... If you are a professional hater... and the Canes win anyway… you have to sit down, put on a bib, and take your medicine.” — Dan (85:44)

Team and Player Praise

• Stank, Jackson Blake, and Taylor Hall line dominating (“out of control,” 79:55).
• Freddie Andersen: Described as “a sicko who is personally offended by goals going in.” (80:21)
• The Hurricanes’ social media (and Stormy mascot) gets shoutouts for their “biblical” trash talk and beatdowns on opposing fanbases.

Debate: Does Extra Rest Hurt the Canes?

• Canes could have up to 12 days off before the next round; the hosts disagree on whether it’s a concern.
  • “I love it. Get all the treatment. Freddie, Slavin—rest up.” — Dan (86:11)
  • Chris cautious about goalies losing sharpness: “Seeing game-action pucks… you literally cannot simulate it.” (88:59)

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Supporting the Goudreau Family: Emotional Interview

Honoring John & Maddie Goudreau

• The second half features a heartfelt interview with Guy and Jane Goudreau ahead of the annual Goudreau 5K & Family Day.

• They discuss the overwhelming support of the hockey community, the purpose and growth of the event, and working through their profound loss.

  • Quote:

    "It just makes us feel good that we're doing something to keep John and Maddie’s legacy alive… It just makes us feel, you know, at a really, really difficult time and really hard time… They were there to kind of rally around us and help us." — Jane Goudreau (99:05)

• The 5K raises funds for inclusive playgrounds, sled hockey, and youth hockey in their memory.

• Event highlights include: Diaper Dash for babies, cornhole, face painting, appearances by Gritty and the Philly Phanatic, and joy despite heartache.

• Call to Action:

  “You don’t even have to walk—just click that link [in the chat]. Donate, sign up. We’re going to pump these numbers and take pictures.” — Dan (91:24)

• The hosts praise the Goudreau family’s strength, stating, “You’re both so otherworldly inspiring doing all of these things…” (108:53)

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Notable Quotes and Moments (w/ Timestamps)

• “If you swap goalies, you cannot win a Stanley Cup.” — Dan (11:46)
• “They got pistol-whipped.” — Chris (10:04), on Buffalo’s home loss
• “Lane Hudson was fucking flying. Everything he wanted to do he was doing.” — Dan (28:51)
• “If you're a defenseman… and you have a goalie who just got yanked… you’re thinking about that. No question.” — Dan (18:09)
• “The Ducks are showing us they’re like, ‘wrong.’ We’re going to try to go to the cup here.” — Dan (56:33)
• “Swimming's the best exercise... Toss some rocks in the pool and have the time of your life.” — Chris (44:17)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• [05:48] – Podcast pivots to hockey talk: Habs’ demolition of Buffalo
• [11:15] – Goalie swapping debate for Buffalo and context for Colorado
• [28:48] – Lane Hudson and Habs’ best game so far; fans’ energy online
• [35:11] – Avs goalies: Blackwood/Wedgwood situation, debate deepens
• [42:32] – The Nathan MacKinnon pool video saga (“Nate Dogg’s Flippies”)
• [52:18] – Vegas-Anaheim: Ducks’ fight, arena vibes, empty net drama
• [71:31] – Carolina’s double sweep: historical context, Cane’s respect
• [93:32] – Interview with Guy & Jane Goudreau begins

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Final Thoughts & Call to Action

The hosts blend in-depth, energetic playoff analysis with their signature banter and plenty of laughs. They strike a serious, emotional tone honoring the Goudreau family, urging listeners to donate and participate in the Goudreau 5K for a truly worthy cause.

Show closes:
“Game tonight, only one—Wild/Avalanche, 5pm Pacific. We’ll see you tomorrow morning... And if you missed it, listen to the full Goudreau family interview.” (93:10)

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Link to the Goudreau 5K event, more info, and merch is posted in the show description and chat.

Transcript

[A]

Back with another episode of the MT 900 podcast live, brought to you by BetMGM. We are here Monday morning after a great weekend of action, and CP Is not hungover, but he is tired as always. So last night, folks, the amazing Anaheim Ducks sent us a great invitation to drive down to Anaheim, come to the game, get to see the Ducks and the Vegas Golden Knights play in a wonderful game, great time. On the drive down, CP Is telling me how tired he is.

[B]

Exhaust.

[A]

He's like, I'm so wiped. I'm absolutely exhausted. And I walk in here this morning. I ran in here this morning. If you can see me, I'm a little sweaty. Sorry about that. And no offense, but I take one look at C.P. he looks. He looks wiped. And then he tells me that. Are you just standing right in front of my camera? Then he tells me. Then he tells me that he went to sleep at 2 in the morning last night. And let me tell you, we got back, I drove to my house where Chris's car was. I get out, actually. You Ubered.

[B]

I did. I did. I wasn't.

[A]

It's like 10:45, and I'm like, all right, going to bed, sleepy boy. Dan. Chris is like, I'm headed home, gonna go to sleep as well. I'm wiped. What?

[C]

What happened?

[B]

Two things happened. Two things happened simultaneously. One, my fiance had been out of town for a week.

[A]

Why don't you brag about it, dude?

[B]

Let him know.

[A]

Dude, why don't you brag about.

[D]

Let him know, hey, I put a

[B]

fucking ring on it, if you care, fellas, if you fucking like her, you put a ring on it. She had been gone for a week, and, you know, we saw her for lunch very briefly.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

You know, you just. It's like, hey, how was it? How was everything?

[A]

Tell me all about your travels.

[B]

Yep. So there was a lot of chatting to do. And then two. And this. This me, dude. This just me. So on Saturday, dude, Saturday, I was like, I'm also gonna chill.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then, you know, I run into these guys, and I go to here, and then I go to there, and then I go to there, and then I go to there, and then locks goes, I want Taco Bell at yours before I leave. So I go, okay, we put on where we order Taco Bell. It's gonna take 80 hours to get here. And locks goes, have you seen Beast Games season two?

[D]

That is the ultimate locks. Like, I could see that in a heartbeat.

[B]

I don't.

[D]

Danny is also a big Minecraft. Let's play guy. I've watched Minecraft. Let's play with Danny at 6:00am before.

[A]

Dude, what the fuck is wrong with you guys?

[B]

So Locks goes like this, bro. Locks goes, dude, put on Beast Games. And he, he jumps me to like an episode in the middle and he goes, you will not fucking believe this. I go, have you seen this already? And he goes, yeah. So he puts it on and I'm like, catch me up, I don't know anything. And he's like, it doesn't matter at all. So he puts it on and then goes like this, bro, see you later. And just sleeps till the Taco Bell gets here. And I'm now dialed into Beast Games. So then we watch till like 3 EPS left from the finale and then I live my life. Sunday I get back and Sandra's like, I'm like, how was your week? And she tells me all these amazing things that she did in back in her hometown. And then she goes, how was your weekend? And I go, listen to this. And I tell her the plot of Beast Games Season 2 up until where I got that's my only update from the weekend. And she goes, holy shit, should we put it on?

[A]

And I go, no.

[B]

Oh yeah.

[A]

You are fucking kidding me.

[B]

Watch the end of beast game season 2 till 2am and now here I am.

[D]

She loves you. There is no doubt in my mind that she loves you because that is a lot.

[A]

Chris and Sandra are two of the dumbest people I've ever met in my entire life. It's unbelievable how you are both so tired all the time.

[B]

Oh yeah.

[A]

And every day when I see you and you both look like corpses. It looks like I'm turning on the mummy for the resurrection of CP and Sandra.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I go, what happened? You guys could have been in bed at 9. And Sandra goes, oh, Chris decided to tell me the entire plot of a book he just read. And we went to bed at 4am Yep. And I'm like, why don't you just go to bed?

[B]

I texted Locks earlier in the night last night and I said, tell me how Beast Game Season 2 ends right now because you've ruined my life and I can't. I don't have time for this.

[A]

And he didn't tell you.

[B]

He just sent back a ton of those cry laughing faces. So then I had to watch, then I had to watch myself. And it's his fault, dude.

[A]

No, you, you, you relying on a brain dead buffoon, a chimpanzee to tell you the end of a story. And then being, being shocked that he Didn't. That man has the worst attention span of anyone, you know? You think he was going to type out the ending of an entire series to you? Remember?

[E]

No.

[B]

He falls asleep. He doesn't even remember.

[A]

So this is completely your fault. This is a hockey show. Let's start talking about hockey. Yeah. The Montreal Canadiens put a beat down on the Sabers.

[B]

I mean, it's a massive weekend for the Habs. A massive weekend for the habs in game one. That was the 5. 1 game, right? Game one, they hammered the Sabers and. Or game one of the weekend.

[A]

I was like.

[B]

And they. It was just an all time bad game.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

For Tage. For the Sabers. I mean, like, we. And that's not even that bad of a thing. We saw that happen to Jackson McComb in whatever game that was.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Like, hey, I. I tighten it up. I fell down.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That was crazy, though. That was crazy, that one. I was like, dude, what is going on?

[A]

Are you all right?

[B]

It's actually funny because we'll get to this later, but when Quinn Hughes scores that goal in game three and he's doing the Mohawk and he just. He looks like he's like figure skating. It looks like he's ballet.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Ballet. Out on the ice, I'm like, how is he moving like that? And then it's like, bang, Goal.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it was like. It was like Tage was going into one of those maneuvers and then was like, I am too big for this.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And my legs do not work. And then fell down. And then it's one of those where you go, as long as they don't

[A]

score here, we're going to be okay.

[B]

Everything is fine. And then I guess, Ping. You're dead. Yeah. So, yeah, not good. But I wasn't that.

[A]

Oh, Zach, Ron. Buffalo, Montreal.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, at the bottom.

[A]

Update me on the bottom here, baby.

[B]

I was like, it says Habs. The. I wasn't that phased. Like, I even texted you and a couple guys. But this, I like this loss for Buffalo. Buffalo needed this loss. You win game one, everyone's fucking flying high. Everyone's buzzing. Sometimes you got to go, hey, it's playoffs, dude. This is not going to be easy. Because it isn't going to be easy. So I didn't actually mind the loss that badly. But then you go to Game 3 in Montreal and Lindy Ruff said, this, dude, you get the exact start. He goes, how do you take the crowd out of it? How do you take the raucous Bell center crowd out? You Score. Get one in the back of their net immediately.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Not only did they score 50 seconds in, but also it's Tage, which is amazing. Literal dream start. So I was like, oh, wow, this is fantastic. But then they get absolutely pop daddy again.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, listen, I think that is Lindy's right. Scoring early and first is a good way to rattle the crowd. But as we've seen in Edmonton, as we've seen in Montreal, you're not going to take the crowd out with one goal. And it's great that you got the goal. It was kind of a weird bounce. Like, weird, you know, whatever. It doesn't matter. Tage gets a goal, gets on the score sheet and you're up one nothing. But one goal ain't going to cut it, correct? Certainly not. And then Montreal comes back, new hook, who is red fucking hot.

[B]

What is he doing?

[A]

He is red hot, dude. He had two goals last night. He had a goal the game before.

[E]

Two.

[B]

Two.

[A]

He has back to back two goal games. Yeah. And dude, I'm. I am officially worried if I'm Buffalo.

[B]

Oh, yeah, same.

[A]

I'm officially worried because you did keep saying you were like, I'm fine with this loss for Buffalo. I was not fine with that loss for Buffalo because I. I don't want to say I knew, I had a feeling that Montreal would win in the first game in the Bell.

[B]

It's just.

[A]

You got to give them credit. Got to give those Habs fans credit. They go fucking nuclear and so do Buffalo fans. But we got a second round here in Montreal for the first time in a little bit. Knew they were going to be wild. You also have the stat that Montreal has not lost back to back games. Like they always respond with a win so far in these playoffs. So it was, it was a big time. All right. You, you know, you got to be prepared to get slapped in the mouth here. They just won in game two. You should steal this one if you can, Buffalo. But it was always going to be a tough mountain to climb. And they got shellacked.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

They got pistol whipped.

[B]

They did. Because I'm with you. I had game three as a. As a loss anyway. And I mean, because, dude, this is. I. It's so hard being a fan in playoffs. I get it, Trust me. But this is kind of how it goes where you go the Habs, it's hard to. To get two at home to start a series right. Unless you're really superior. It's hard.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So you kind of expect a split and then you expect or at least for my POV as a fan, I go, I expect to lose game three when it's like this. Which means now you have a super high pressure Game four.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But if you just win that, you are more than fine. Because now you go, we're going to win this. We just won the series. Because now it's best of three. I have two at home. Like, we. Yes. Game four is so tense. But, like, if you win that game, you are in the driver's seat and will likely win the series.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So it's, you know, everything is going exactly how I assumed it was going to go. I assume Buffalo will win game four, and then now we're in a dog fight. Sounds good. So they should. They still the. The literal win and loss. Isn't that weird to me? I'm like, yep, this is pretty much how I tracked it, too. It's the way you measure of their two losses.

[A]

Yeah. Five goals on Friday, six goals yesterday. So it brings us to the big question. Does upl start next game?

[B]

And we had said this. I guess they hadn't even lost yet. But I had asked you, like, you know, what would even happen? And I was like, you know what? You were proven right. Because I was like. I said, what would happen if they got pounded in Game 2? They did. And I was like, would you do anything? And you were like, absolutely not. I wouldn't. And they didn't. But then you got pounded again.

[A]

Man, this is my TED Talk. I've been saying since the very beginning of this show. And I. I always say it, if you swap goalies, you cannot win a Stanley Cup.

[B]

Dude, you. I've proven this wrong, though. Like, we looked this up.

[A]

Did we, though? Because I don't think you're right. Tell me the team.

[B]

Oh, dude, it's like the two teams ever before. Tim Thomas.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Tim Thomas never left the net. Yeah. And then only two cup winners since him had that goalie never leave the net.

[A]

No, no, that's not. That's not my thesis.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

My thesis is if you start different goalies more than once, getting yanked in games, that is not the same thing.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Like, that's fine. Like, you can get yanked because it's like, oh, this game's out of hand.

[B]

Exactly. I need the.

[A]

But starting a different goalie multiple times. And I mean multiple. I mean, like, so right now, if Buffalo starts up again, that means you have had three swaps. Like, if you. And the one outlier. Again, I'm not saying I'm right. This is my TED talk and my hair brain schemes and thoughts. But Vegas is the big one. That was all injury based.

[B]

Yeah. I mean the Panthers started lying and lost the Cup. Lost the Cup? Yeah.

[A]

Edmonton, they, they went back and forth every both years, back to back years, then they lose the cup. You can get there, but you lose the cup.

[B]

Frankie, for like that whole Western Conference

[A]

finals when they won.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But then they, they, but, but they didn't go back and forth. Right. Like they had Kemper, Kemper, Frankie and then Kemper finished. And that wasn't an injury.

[B]

It might have been.

[A]

I feel like that was an injury. Someone in the chat, ABS fans let me know, was that an injury? Because that'll be a big punch in the, in the teeth for me. But I do think it is. And even if there are examples where it has happened, it is way less than the other way.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I'm saying when you're doing this, I immediately have doubt sewed into my mind about your team. So like if you.

[B]

Buffalo's already dead because they started this.

[A]

Unless they stick with line. Unless they go, it doesn't fucking matter. We're starting line. And then like then if they come back in Game 4, Lyon pitches a shutout or, or you know, a great game and they win. I'm like, wow, fucking well done, Lindy. Being like, I'm sticking with the guy and well done lion for bouncing back here. But if you start upl in this game and you lose, you're dead. And yes. It's just like it's always complicated. It's like, I think we'll get to it. But Wallstead going back in the net for Minnesota and having maybe the best performance of his playoffs so far was so drastically important for Minnesota.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

So this.

[B]

Does that mean they're dead?

[A]

Because they know because they've only done it once. I mean. Or they did go back. That's actually fair. So. Yeah, they're dead. Minnesota's dead.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Based on this thesis.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Now, I'm not saying that's going to come true.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But if they lose, that's why. Yes.

[B]

And I actually didn't think that you should extend it to once. Like I don't.

[A]

Well, no, because like sometimes it's like if you.

[B]

No, dude. If you're the go. If you're are my goalie.

[A]

But sometimes you don't know. Sometimes there's a situation where it's like, we've got two goalies, we don't really know who's the guy and you make one switch. And then that second guy is like this. I am dope. I. I do believe, because if, again, I'm not saying that's going to get you a win, but it can get you a win. Because if that goalie then goes in and they continue winning, that is a goalie showing his defense, showing his team and himself that, I'm the guy. I can win.

[B]

It should have been you.

[A]

It should. But if you suck, then you get yanked, too. Then I'm like, yes, you guys are dead now because both of you, both goalies have now been yanked because they suck.

[B]

Yep. Okay. And. And Zach, how's my audio in your mic? Because.

[A]

Oh, God, here we go.

[B]

I know. It's so funny because your mic is.

[D]

His mic is up all the way, Chris.

[B]

You can't hear you. And I'm like, we audio test these.

[A]

And it is always so loud.

[B]

Like, in our ear headphones, it is so loud. So I don't know why it's either

[A]

I am talking so loud, or you are a tired and you've lost voice and you talk so quietly.

[B]

It's blowing him out. This exact voice is blowing out the

[D]

headphones that we have his mic as high as it can go. Like, it is all.

[A]

It was an injury. Thank you, Chat. Darcy got pulled because of an injury, and then he went back in the net. So that doesn't count.

[B]

Yeah, okay.

[A]

Shout out, Chat.

[B]

Come on. So, yeah, if you are losing so many games that you've. You're swapping goalies like trading cards, then, yes, you're not going to win the cup because, no, you already blow. And you put in three different goalies.

[A]

You. You're talking to me like, a little, as if you're, like, mad about this thesis, and you're being like, well, no, Dan, you're an idiot.

[B]

Well, I don't think you're an idiot, but I do think if any team, it makes sense.

[A]

Okay, but my point is, teams like fans, like Oilers fans, the last couple of years, this is going on, and they're being like this, we're still going to win. And I'm like, no, you're not.

[B]

Yeah, you don't.

[A]

Because you don't have the goalie to get it done. Yep, that is my point. Like, I think more people need to be aware of this if this is happening. It is. And again, everything on this show is said with just for the most part. So we're. We're being hyperbolic and having some fun here on a Monday morning. But if I'm a Sabers fan, Chris, My point being, I am very nervous now.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because if I'm a Sabres fan with this knowledge of the past.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You've got to look at this and be. Because this is, this is not said with jest. It is super important to players who the goalie is behind you, especially defense. It is so important to know who's behind you, how, how they play, what their mental state is, how confident they are. And it's, it changes the way you play as a defenseman. There are great example is a two on one. If you've got a goalie who's fucking locked in and I'm the defenseman coming back on a two on one, I will so heavily cheat to take away the pass and give my goalie the shot, knowing that he's dialed and locked in.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

If you're a defenseman in that situation and you have a goalie who just got yanked and you've got a cold goalie in net, now you're thinking about that. No question about it. 100. So it's like, it is, it's huge to know who's, who's in the cage behind you.

[B]

Dude. Or gone.

[A]

No, that's, that's, that's all it is.

[B]

I actually wonder if this will. If this will change soon or not change. But like, there might be examples to, to combat this thesis. Because one thing you have also said a lot is people go like, here's my larger point, Dan. The sabers of the world are going, we aren't going to win the cup. Or we might not win the cup because, God, we've been question like, who do I start upl Lion. And I'm, I'm going, you're not. And you're not saying this either, but you're not losing the cup because you're goalie switching. You're losing the cup because neither of these goalies can win a cup. So you can switch all you want. Or, or they could have played one the whole time and they are not going to.

[A]

Yeah. It's not the switch that's the issue.

[B]

You don't have the goalie play to win a cup. And you always say everyone's like, well, that's kind of changing. And you're like, what's the example? Kemper in Colorado. He's a Vesna finalist.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Like, what the fuck are you talking about?

[A]

Correct.

[B]

It is literally go down the line. I'll even throw in St. Louis because of what Binner does in big games.

[A]

Correct.

[B]

I'm like, you, you know, you only win the cup if you have a good goalie. There is no example of we don't have a good goalie. So the teams flopping are losing. Not because of the flop, but because you're debating between Jean Luc Picard and Stu Skinner. You were dead no matter what. You could have started one the whole time. There's a chance this does change with teams like, I'll put this Minnesota Wild team in right now, that this team can win a cup by starting these goalies back and forth. This Colorado Avalanche team, like Bednar said he might start Blackwood in Game 4. If he does and then they go back to Wedgwood, they can still win a cup.

[A]

I frankly agree. I. And I would be fucking shocked and appalled if they start Blackwood after that game. I would be shocked and appalled if they start Blackwood.

[B]

We'll get to that. So will I. But. But point being that 2023 Bruins team could have won a cup with Swayman and all Mark trading games. You know, like, I think this might change moving forward because there are teams that can do it, and the teams that haven't done it couldn't have won anyway.

[A]

You know what this is, man? This is. This is like a chicken or the egg thing.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Because. Right. What you just said. You were like, that Bruins team could have won. Going back and forth with Sway and Olmark. And I'm sitting here going, no, they couldn't have.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And we'll never know.

[B]

Well, we. I hope Blackwood starts so badly. Yes. Now I'm like, that we'll find out.

[A]

But. But you know what's frustrating to me is, like, if Blackwood starts and what do you think? Like. Because my point is we'll never find out because it is the height of insanity to keep switching goalies if you're winning.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So the only way we could ever find out if this works is if, let's say Colorado goes, we're starting Blackwood, and then Colorado wins the next two games. Then they get to the Western Conference final against whomever.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And they lose the first two games and they go, we're starting Wedgwood now. And then they win three, and then they lose one. And then they go, we're starting Blackwood now. And then they win. And then they go to the. You know, like.

[B]

Yeah, it's.

[A]

The amount of switching would just be so insane. And it would be so, in my opinion, lucky to still win while you're doing that. So I'm like, I just don't think it would ever happen. And the other Side of it is they put in Blackwood and they win two games, you then keep playing Blackwood.

[B]

Unless you just go, dude, I need to give this guy some rest. But Wedgwood needs a little break.

[A]

Yes. And my point is, we have literally never seen that in the history of the Stanley cup playoffs. Yes. That's why I think it is such a dangerous game for a coach to go, you know what? I'm going to do something no one's

[B]

ever done before, but something we have done all year.

[A]

But dude, every fucking team does that now and again. You're right.

[B]

I'm not.

[A]

I'm not arguing with you on if that happens in the regular season, but it never happens in the playoffs. It has never been successful in the playoffs. Part of it is because no one's done it. But my thing is, I've not played in the NHL. I've not played in Stanley cup playoffs. I would have to fucking imagine when you are a team in the Stanley cup playoffs and you're rolling, that goalie is going, I'm fine. And we're winning. Keep playing. Like, imagine how much of a fucking bitch you would have to be to be in the Stanley cup playoffs and go, I'm Todd Boss. Get me out.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's insane.

[B]

You would never. But it's up to the coach to go. You are tired and you are sitting down.

[A]

But yes. But again, every Stanley cup playoff, Stanley cup winning team before that, not doing that is a tough thing for a Coley coach to be like this. You know what we should do?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Is fucking throw off all the vibes every two games and hold the goalie. And like you've always said, if anyone's going to do that, you have to do it round one. You have to do it round one to establish it and get your players ready for it. And no one has done it.

[B]

Yep. There's someone in the chat, says, hold on, I lost it. Oh, yeah, here we go. Being Jennifer says, according to the Internet, the last team to win a cup with a goalie tandem, not due to injury, was the 1972 Bruins. Jerry Cheevers and Eddie Johnson split time that.

[A]

What is that person's name?

[B]

Being Jennifer.

[A]

Being Jennifer, you're the fucking best. That is such an unbelievable find. I don't know how you found back and forth, but you're fucking incredible. And that's nuts.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

72.

[B]

It's crazy. But Dan, here's a great point though. Like, if I don't think or maybe you. You would only count it this way. I Don't think they need to go keep going back and forth. I think it is just a rest thing. For example, the Wild. If the Wild come back and beat Colorado. Yeah, they. They. They are. They are the best team left. If they. If that happens, Carolina fans actually have something to say about.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But point being, the Wild could easily win the Stanley cup if they come back and beat Colorado.

[A]

Oh, yes.

[B]

And they will have done this. They'll have gone, oh, do. We just played Gus.

[A]

That's true.

[B]

And then we went.

[A]

That's true. I'm like, that's true.

[B]

Or the favorite. This is.

[A]

It's one. Well, are you saying that they. They will have technically done this if Wallstead stays in?

[B]

Yeah, because they. Because they.

[A]

They went Wallstead. One game of Gus. Back to Wallstead. Wallstead forever.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

That would technically be this. No, not technically. I'm not going to do that. That would absolutely be an example of this.

[B]

And this is more what I mean, I don't think. Or we. We probably will never see a. You for four now. You for four. Yeah, I more mean like, we have a guy, but he needs a break. So you are playing one game.

[A]

You know what's funny, though? I always hate that because I thought the Gus start was crazy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I thought it was crazy. And I thought it was disrespectful because both goalies got plugged.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And you were like, we're gonna set ours. And then you lost pretty badly again. And that's why I think. Let's save that talk for the next series where I know there's tons of Buffalo and Montreal fans being like, what the.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So let's save that talk. All right. Buffalo, Montreal. Let's stay on it.

[B]

We'll stay on goalies for a second then. Because I want to say this, I think coming into game one of this Buffalo Montreal series, I said, we both said, if Dobish looks incredible again, oh, my God. The Habs are gonna. That we. We both picked Habs in seven. This could be over in five if he looks incredible again. And then game one happened, and I went, whoa. It's. Maybe it was lying the whole time. Yeah. Holy. And now after these last two dovish performances, I'm like, nope, we are actually in big trouble. Dobish is nasty.

[A]

100%. And again, I always preface this because I know people are going to go, no shit, Sherlock. Game four is must win for Buffalo, right?

[B]

Yeah, because you just.

[A]

Game four is must win for Buffalo, dude.

[B]

Actually, no, I don't think. And I only. I'M only caveating because, for example, we have said many times, if you lose, if you go down 3, 0 to Colorado, you have lost because they literally will not lose four games in a row. Yeah. And I mean that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't. Buffalo could win three games in a row. So I'm saying I'm not going to stamp it. Must win in the same way I had Minnesota. Game 3. Must win Minnesota. Game 3 was literally must win because this is over. This game isn't must win, but you are. You are up against it. You are bent over the barrel, my friend. If you lose game four, I think

[A]

it's must win because of how these two games have gone. That first game was so huge for Buffalo. Montreal responds as they've done all playoffs, and they don't lose two in a row. They tie it up. Then they go to the Bell center and they beat the wheels off you. And they beat the wheels off you. And the reason I think game four is an absolute must win for Buffalo is because Doves, who was the difference maker in round one, had a.966 save percentage in game two and a nine to nine in game three.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

That the two monumental performances. Frankly, the Rasmus Darlene goal last night was huge.

[B]

Yes, it was.

[A]

It was huge for the. You just got to see some go in.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

You have to see some go in. And in that game, dude, me doesh was all over them.

[B]

And a peeper too, which was nice.

[A]

All over them. And Montreal scored four unanswered goals against you, and it was just like, dude, this is Bera brutal. He gets that goal at the end of the second on a power play. Also good. It was just good to be like, okay, like, we can score on this guy.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

But again, I know one was an empty net, but Montreal coming out, and Doc kind of stays going here.

[B]

Kirby Dock is the man.

[A]

Dude gets a second of the game. Two goals in a row in two games. An empty netter.

[B]

It was just incredible. Hey, I think maybe that's. Or there was one last year we should have got, but that was to get paid on a. Awarded like, you know, because they just

[A]

like, if you get hooked.

[B]

If you get hooked with an empty net, they just give you the goal.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I was like, yes, dude, that was awesome.

[A]

Yeah. It's just I. If I'm Buffalo, I am absolutely back is up against it. I'm feeling a little stressed because this is also. And listen, we've seen it. We just saw Anaheim do it last night, which we'll get to but that game by Montreal for me, for my money. And I'm curious what Habs fans in the chat think. I personally thought that was the best game the Montreal Canadiens have played these playoffs.

[B]

This. This one.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

That just happened.

[A]

I thought last night was a master class by Lane Hudson. Lane Hudson was fucking flying. Everything he wanted to do.

[B]

He was doing the shot fake on the Cole goal. Oh, my God, that is so gross, dude. That is so gross. And dude. And to get it over to Cole, too, you know, you. You want to get him going in a big way to see. Have him see one go in off just that disgusting play was so awesome.

[A]

I also. I'm going to say here. Habs fans are officially back online.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

I mean, I. It's. We. We've seen in this show a lot. A lot of different Canadian team fan bases can be a little crazy during playoffs. I don't know what it. I love the Canadiens fans. They're so funny and insane and pretentious, but it's like, not an. I don't know why it doesn't annoy me.

[B]

I love that dude.

[A]

I think they're so funny. They're so arrogant. But it's always done with Jet. Like, they know they're being arrogant. And I. I just think it's.

[B]

They're French, too.

[A]

I love Canadiens fans online. They're nuts. And we're getting a lot. These are the ones that I believe are ingest. The amount of. It's not a debate. Lane Hudson is better than Kale McCarr. Tweets I saw last night were incredible. And again, they were meant to be. Shit stirring.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

So I was like, this is hilarious. It's awesome, dude. The.

[B]

I give Habs. Well, the Habs team certainly, but haves fans a lot of credit because when we launched the bracket challenge, so many people had the Habs going all the way. And. And it's all haps fans. Yeah.

[A]

Like, shout out last. Last has the habs in the final.

[B]

That's great pick. And so many people texting me, tweeting at me, showing me these pictures. And they were like, keep doubting us. Like, you think Tampa's gonna beat us? And I'm like, the whole world thinks Tampa's gonna be. And now I'm like, oh, my God, you are actually going to the final. And that is crazy. But I give them credit because they were on it so early. And of course you are. You're a fan. But usually as a fan, you kind of go, well, maybe we'll learn around or Two, Maybe we upset Tampa and then lose. But they saw the vision. They saw the vision the whole way. And, and again, I said this on this very program. Once Marty St. Louis started doing Wolf of Wall street in the locker room. I, I, dude, get. Stamp a ch on my forehead.

[A]

Dude.

[B]

Holy hell. That was incredible.

[A]

It's incredible. This team is incredible and so fun. And I'm, I'm going to be honest, going into this season, I think we both had them pretty high in the Atlantic.

[B]

I think I had them.

[A]

You had a wild card maybe?

[B]

No. Yeah. I had them having like one of those comeback to earth seasons. They.

[A]

That the Canadiens, dude, are way ahead of schedule.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Way ahead of schedule. This, the rebuild, retool, whatever the come up of the Habs team. The fact that Zuke had 100 points this year, Cole scored 50 goals this year. That's so, it's all so unbelievable. You, you go, go and get Dobson, who I thought has been a great addition. Lane Hudson has taken yet another jump. He's one of the best defensemen in the league. The big one for me is who's going to be your goalie with Montembo last year.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it was like Doves was there, but it was like, who's going to be the guy? And I'm the biggest foul I know in the world. And then you got this kid. You listening to Dobesh's post game last night, talking about the crowd, talking about the vibe in Bell center and also just the vibes on this team. You now have two. Because I think, I think Fowler is a certified blue chip goalie.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You now have him and Dobesh.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And I'm like, this is an embarrassment of riches with this team.

[B]

It's crazy.

[A]

It's crazy how ahead of schedule they are and 1 billion percent and Buffalo.

[B]

We're gonna.

[A]

Don't worry. We're not counting you out. But every single Habs fan on earth right now should have the confidence of not only can we go to the cup, we can, we can play with anyone in the Cup. We can play with Colorado, Minnesota, Vegas, Anaheim, doesn't matter. I can't believe how much fun every Habs fan must be having right now because like, this team is so ahead of schedule and they are fucking firing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's amazing.

[B]

No, it's.

[D]

This is the moment.

[A]

This is the moment.

[B]

Look at Marty. Look at Marty.

[A]

Marty doing a full Leo DiCaprio. Wolf of Wall Street. Look at how much fun he's having, dude.

[B]

They and the boys are loving it. The boys are absolutely loving it. God damn, dude. Yeah, they're doing something right now. They're doing something very, very legit. Game 4 must win for Dan. Not must win for me, but it's a serious, serious situation. First back to back losses for the Sabers. First road loss for the Sabers.

[A]

First road loss for the Sabers, which is wild. Such a tough look for Boston. Jesus Christ. But for the Sabers. Yeah. I mean, listen, what. I think the Sabers have been fantastic. They are fantastic. I think game four is 100. Must win for that. That team. And I know Tage scored in that game, but like Tage, you have to have a huge game in Game four.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

You have to have a huge game in Game four. I'd love to see Tuck kind of come alive here in Game four, too. But big, big, big question for Lindy Ruff and the Buffalo Sabres. Are you starting upl? Are you starting Lyon? And how do you steal a game in Montreal in the raucous Bell Center? Because you know as well that Montreal Canadiens team and their fans know in their heads, if they win Game four and they go undefeated. Not undefeated, but you know, if they win both of their games at home, they are like, you are dead now. We have killed you. Yep. So you have a team who's showing up for a hopeful funeral.

[B]

Yeah. Right.

[A]

And you are. Are just trying to survive. So they should dress in black. Yeah.

[B]

Incredible.

[A]

They should. That would be sick.

[B]

Okay, well, let's go to. Are you good there?

[A]

I'm good there. Let's move on.

[B]

Colorado, Minnesota. And Boldy Glazer just said. Okay. He says, not official yet, but the ABS beat writer just tweeted out that Blackwood's. Blackwood's between the pipes tonight.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So now, Dan, the winner of that series. To get back to our conversation, the winner of that series is now who will be the favorite to go to the cup against Vegas or Anaheim will now have done this with their goalies, assuming they ever go back to Wedgwood, which I presume they would.

[A]

Yeah, but. But isn't that crazy? Like, why would you presume that if they keep winning?

[B]

Yeah, just because I think literally, Bednar says he's tired. Like, he said out loud. He's like, he just needs a break.

[A]

He did say that.

[B]

I'm 90. Sure. I saw him go. He.

[A]

He could use someone in the chat if. Let us know if Bednar has been straight up in, like, Wedgwood's tired. He's just like, he's tired. We just got to Swap him out here. Because honestly, if I'm Wedgwood and Bednar said that, I'd be pissed.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'd be like, dude, don't say that. I'm not tired. Or even if I am, you're making me look like a baby.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I wouldn't want my coach saying that about me. It's round two. You got to sweep in round one.

[B]

Right? Right.

[A]

You've only played seven games. If my coach is being like this, he's tired. I'd be like, dude, I look like a pussy. And I would use that as bulletin board material if I were the Wild.

[B]

Yeah, I guess. I guess he's like. He didn't say it as directly as I thought. He's just going. They do the. He goes. He said they. They're better coming in after a break. So I think he's like, yeah, just give him a break, dude. It'll come back in. Can I. What? Oh, the quote. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not a great one, but I'll send it to you. Hold on. But they have full confidence in. In both.

[A]

Of course they do. Of course they do. And the abs should. This is one of those situations, though. We always talk about the regular season versus the postseason. It's a big thing. It came up in the. In the Habs Buffalo series with Cole Caufield. It's like, this guy scored 50 goals. He's having a hard time scoring in the playoffs. And I'm like, he's. He's gonna be fine. We saw him score last night. But it's a different game. You got to adjust to the game. I. I know the tandem has worked, but you're. You're playing regular season hockey. Teams are playing very differently. So this is one of those things that I think is Spooksville, USA Population Bednar. If you start Blackwood and the Wild beat the shit out of you, which they. They did in game three.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

So. And we'll see.

[B]

Yeah. And then you. And then you go, well, fuck, what do I do? I mean, I guess in that case, it's basically exactly what happened to the Wild, though, because they went, we're gonna start gus. And the ABs beat the. Out of them. And they went. Sorry, never mind.

[A]

Back to Walstead. Yeah.

[B]

So then that's what you would do. You go, my bad. Back to Wedgwood.

[A]

It's fine. Yeah, but. Yeah, no, it's. It's. It's absolutely correct.

[B]

But, Dan, you know what's interesting that I hadn't really considered because. Because the apps were 2 0. But you. The only questions that have ever been called into. Into question about the abs by you this playoffs was, man, I'll be interested to see Wedgwood in playoffs.

[A]

Both of them, like, whoever they started, they started Wedgwood. So I was like, I'm curious.

[B]

And then they played presumably great, great against the Kings. But then, even though they're up to one of the series, two games, Wedgwood has given up six goals and six goals, a ton of goals. So you're. I am kind of like, oh, true.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

That's interesting because if the wheels came off there, right?

[A]

Like, if six goals and five goals,

[B]

if the wheels came off there, then you are all of a sudden as Colorado, you're going, oh, my God.

[A]

Yeah, this I want to stroke off the Wild for a second.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

That was such an awesome game from the Wild. And it starts with Wallstead for me. Yep, you're down to nothing and you've. You lost pretty badly in both games. I know the first game was a shootout, but let's call it what it is. You gave up eight goals.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's crazy. So you get beat badly in game two after Walstead gets yanked. Now you're down two zero and Walston gets put back in the net. You're at home. That's great. But when that happens, you're basically looking at Walston and going, get us back in this, dude.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Obviously the boys got to play, which they did, but that is it. There's a lot of pressure there on Walstead, and he played so well. He played so well and the boys were firing. That was such a great response for them.

[B]

And none more important. Nothing more important than the fact that they went 2 for 3 on the power play, like so bad, quite literally

[A]

might have saved the series. I thought the power play looked good.

[B]

It always does, though. Yeah. If that Quinn. Fuck that.

[A]

Good point.

[B]

If that Quinn crab walk through the slot, just hits the post and goes out, then I'm like, this same old wild power play.

[A]

It's also obviously, listen, it's an empty net, which I'm about to get to, but as we say all the time, they all count the same.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

You also love in a game like this, and I'm telling you guys, literally, just optically, this is super important on the score sheet in that game. Kril Caprizov, Quinn Hughes, Brock Faber, Matt Baldy. Yeah, that feels phenomenal.

[B]

Baldi with one of the great empty netters.

[A]

It was the greatest empty net. I, I, I allow I posted on the story. I Was laughing out loud. Dude, it was an onslaught. And then you just trebuchet the puck the length of the ice into the net.

[B]

Dude, remember though. Remember the Vegas one last year at the buzzer? Remember you and I were watching the replay and it's literally like 0.1 to 0 as the puck's going. That was also a. An onslaught that just got iced. That just went in, which was insane. But this looked like that. It was one of the great. One of the great empty netters I've seen all playoffs. And Dan, people in the chat making a good point. Wedgie gave up six and then really just three because then he got pulled. Black would give up one and then the empty netter. So he. But it was three quick ones, so it wasn't like he was playing great. But he hasn't given up 11 goals. You know, he only gave up three in game.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, that's true.

[B]

But. But again, did not look good, which is why he was taken out.

[A]

Yeah. When I. What I. I texted to you when I said that.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah, sure.

[A]

When I said that, I was mostly being like the team. Yeah, yeah. You know, like it's. It was not a good performance.

[B]

So great call about the score sheet. The power play finally. So, so good. That was really big for me. This one, I. This one again, just like Montreal. I was like, this is like a scheduled win for Minnesota. I don't think they're going to get swept by Colorado. They're home. They got to get this game. They came out firing. They. The AVs certainly know, man, we could step on throats here, but it's just hard to match that intensity. Do you think Nate swimming in flippers in the pool helps the aves.

[A]

Let's talk about that.

[B]

Or hurts the ass.

[A]

Let's get. Get that. Get that video to Zach. Cuz we got to get that up. I have a very, very hot take on this. A video surfaced, Zach, of Nathan McKinnon, arguably best player on the Colorado Avalanche, swimming in the hotel pool with. With goggles and flippers.

[D]

I saw this video and yet. We'll show here in a second. I it.

[B]

What do you think?

[A]

A lot of chatter online. Lot of chatter online of people being like, this is such a bad look for the abs. They're dead because this.

[D]

Just send me a link

[A]

to that. I say this. Anyone thinking this is a bad look, you are dead wrong. Or you have not swam with goggles

[B]

and flippers on swimming flippies.

[A]

Swimming the ocean in a pool in your fucking bathtub with goggles and flippies on is a blast, dude.

[B]

Flippies absolutely. Rip, rip. It's crazy. You cook, you think you go. You're like, I'll go a little faster. Probably incorrect. You have hit the nos, my friend. You have rocket fuel pumping through your veins. It's absolutely insane. And, dude, I wouldn't be surprised Dan, if he was doing down and back one breath challenges. I bet he was going, let me see how many times I can get down and back one breath. I bet he was having some of the boys toss rocks in the pool and was saying, let me see how many rocks I can come up with in one breath. You guys, I'll close my eyes, you guys toss some rocks, and then I'll dive in and get them with my goggles. And if you aren't, you got to stay loose. You got to stay light on your feet. In playoffs, swimming's best exercise, and if you want to relax, if you want to ease the tension, then you toss some rocks in the pool, and then you go down and back all one breath. And then you having the time of your life. The time of your life.

[A]

Time of your life. I, I, I, I, I, I. I'm passionate about this. Anyone saying anything negative about this is just. You're being a hater. You're trying to sound funny or you've just not done it recently. Goggles and flippers cook their gas.

[B]

I think if I'm Nate, if I'm Nate, I go right back in before game four. Completely going right back in.

[A]

Oh, God. Do we have it up here? Here he is.

[B]

Look at.

[A]

Look at Nate dog. Look at how happy he is.

[B]

Toss a rock, boys. Toss a rock in the pool.

[A]

I love that he's going arms back, too.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

He's having the time of his life, as he should be. Dude, goggles underwater are fucking awesome.

[B]

Look at the flippies, dude. I can't.

[A]

He's just swimming like a torpedo.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Arms tight to the side.

[B]

He is a torpedo. Yeah. That might be his new nickname, dude, the torpedo. I Do you think. Who's that guy on the shape on the lounge chair? Wait till it refreshes. Dan.

[A]

I don't. Who are the boys watching?

[B]

Who's that guy?

[A]

I think that is Bednar.

[B]

Well, dude, see, this is what I'm trying to say. Is this. Did they walk down and close the pool to the public, or is this just the pool?

[A]

I think it's just the pool, man.

[B]

If it is.

[A]

Also, I'm a little surprised that it's warm enough in Minnesota that I had

[B]

that Thought to see if you can see that.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Because it's like, this is definitely the boys.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And. Or staff or something. But that guy in the back, There's a chance that's just a guy.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

If anyone in the chat knows who that is, I want to know.

[B]

And, dude, I would have been over the moon. If I was in Minnesota, staying at that hotel and Nate was swimming. I would have. Dude, I would have canceled any obligation

[A]

I had and gone.

[D]

I think you guys could not be more wrong. I think I just am. I think as if I. And look, I'm just going to say it like, if I saw my. Like. And now I'm going to put this in football terms. But if I saw my quarterback, like, out there in some flippies looking like that, Dude, I don't think I could look at it in the same way.

[B]

If that was Mahomes before a playoff game, I would be rattled.

[D]

I would be like, dude, I mean, but. But the same thing. Then I could see your point, because I. When I first saw this video, my thought was, well, look, on the other hand, if you have the confidence, like, it's like wearing, like, a terrible, ugly shirt, like, just the ugliest shirt you can buy, and you wear it out, and people are like, yeah, we're okay with this.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

If you can pull it off, you can pull it off because you're the guy. But that was a lot for me.

[A]

You know what? Listen, again, I get it. But I'm daring you to think bigger because this is another one of those things. You put a group of guys in a room.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And you implement or introduce a ball to that room. You know, everyone starts going like this. Let me get that.

[B]

Yeah, let me hit that.

[A]

If you were at a pool and you're in the pool and you're swimming.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And there is a pair of goggles. You are high off your ass. If you're telling me you're not gonna go like this. Let me get those goggles.

[B]

Yep. If they're just sitting there.

[A]

Dude, seeing underwater.

[B]

That's unbelievable.

[D]

It is.

[A]

Who is not taking the opportunity to do that? Is.

[B]

It is now, if Nate packed his

[A]

goggles, then maybe we can have a different conversation. But I still stand by what I said. It's fun as hell. I'm not gonna get on him about it.

[B]

I think he did pack his own. Also, Dan, somebody said that's empty because it's like. You're right. It's 50 degrees outside. Yeah. And Nate.

[A]

What?

[B]

Or I mean, Zach, what do you think about this, though. If it's. If it's freezing out, does that make him tougher? Like, now I'm actually like, wait, Nate's a dog.

[D]

I mean, it's like a cold plunge, but still. The flippies. It's just the flippies.

[B]

Some guys have to go in the cold punch for 90 seconds and just sit there. Nate gets in the cold punch and flippies.

[A]

He flippies up and down a cold tub torpedo. Nate should terrify wild fans.

[B]

I mean, I guess they lost immediately. That's true. But. But I'm just saying.

[D]

I mean, look lost immediately. He was probably looking at the tweets. He was probably like, KD just, like, looking back at it.

[A]

He scored. I think, okay, this is what it is. I think everyone else on the team needs to get in that pool with goggles and flippies.

[B]

That might be right.

[A]

Then they'll score.

[B]

But. And somebody says, what if they. What if he flippies again and the ABs lose again?

[A]

Then we can never flippy again.

[B]

And also, Dan, I just want to say this. If I am a Minnesota Wild fan tonight, tonight. If I'm a Minnesota Wild fan tonight, they're playing tonight, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I am showing up to that game in goggles. If I'm sitting on the glass, I'm showing up in goggles like this.

[A]

Go swim.

[B]

Go put your flippies on. If the whole crowd doesn't have goggles on tonight, then they are. They have. Listen to me.

[A]

After everything I just said.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

It feels insane for me to say this. Wild fans, if you do not show up to the game tonight in. In goggles, you're out of your mind.

[B]

If they don't show up in goggles tonight, they have fucked up so badly.

[A]

That is like, holy hell.

[B]

It says, oh, somebody says Minnie was chirping Nate, asking if he forgot his floaties. Yeah, like, you need to get your goggles out there at the arena tonight. That is necessary. Necessary work. And, dude, that'll affect Nate. Nate. Nate is a. Nate is a psycho. Don't get me wrong, but I'm telling you, he's that kind of psycho because he sees everything. He hears everything. You got to be. If you're sitting on the glass, you need goggles.

[A]

It's such a good call by. All right, Minnesota, great performance. Great bounce back for the. For Colorado. This is the last thing I. I'll say about this series. For Minnesota. That's insane. I just said for Colorado, and then I went for Minnesota. For Colorado. I don't think you feel faced.

[B]

You don't at all that is the

[A]

worst game that you've played since, like January.

[B]

And you outshot them 36 to 26. You were ramming it down their throat for the last two periods of the game.

[A]

Wallstead, great bounce back. Getting back in net with a little bit of rest. Like, I don't think you let it phase you. And I also think if you lose game four, you're, you're still not phased for. Hold on. For one other than for one reason. If you lose game four, you go like this. It's tied up. Dude, we won two at home. They want to at home. We, we have home ice advantage. Let's go back home, let's reset. Let's take care of business. It would depend on how Blackwood plays. If you lose game four and Blackwood gets punished.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Then you go, okay, we got to go back to Wedgie. And now Blackwood's not really an option. Yes. Which is a scary feeling. If you get shellacked with Blackwood and net tonight, you go back to Wedgwood and you go, let's reset. Which you feel fine about because Wedgwood has been great all year. Should it could have, should have been a Vezna finalist, whatever. But you go back to him kind of knowing that he's the guy. Like, we just, we can't go to Blackwood again.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm sorry. So that is a factor. Depending on if you lose, depending on how Blackwood plays will be a factor. Minnesota, here's a crazy one for you. If they lose this game, I, I don't think it's night night for them.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

I, I, I think that, you know, they put in six in game one. They put in five in game three. I think that they can go. If they lose this game, I think that they can go, listen, going to be tough, but we can still fight the.

[B]

I'll say. What exactly what I said about Buffalo. It's not must win because I think the Aves could.

[A]

Buffalo is must win.

[B]

Could lose three in a row. Very unlikely. But they could. They literally cannot lose four. They could lose three. So I think they're playing the only

[A]

team left in these playoffs who could beat Colorado three games in a row.

[B]

Yes, I agree.

[A]

Montreal, Carolina, Buffalo. This is the only team that could beat them three games in a row.

[B]

Completely agree.

[A]

Yeah. Okay, let's move on. Vegas, Anaheim. Last night, Anaheim storms back, ties up the series. We were in the building. Chats, chats. Cracking CPI dude.

[E]

Leo.

[B]

Leo Carlson. Glazer says we got a. We got a Leo Carlson Glazer and a Boldy Glazer.

[A]

I need to Leo Carlson Glazer tell us right now. Did you make your account Leo Carlson Glazer because of how much we reference Matt Boldy Glazer, or was that a completely separate thought that you did? Be honest.

[B]

There's no way he says, I would have the woods race in the hotel pool with goggles and flippies and the winner gets the start.

[A]

The rest of the way, Leo Carlson Glazer gets it.

[B]

Yes, that's correct. That's the absolute correct take. That is the absolute correct take of who gets the start. Especially if Blackwood starts and loses and they go, okay, well, everybody get your flippies on and we'll see what happens. Okay, Ducks Vegas. Someone said this earlier. This series is the most slept on series of the second round because it's awesome and no one's talking about it and no one's paying attention. And also because it's on late, so no one's. It's literally being slept on. People asleep. People asleep during it. This is a great series. Just like. Just like Vegas, Utah was actually. But this is a great series. Game three, we saw Friday return to the Ponda and we had the Mitch Marner game.

[A]

Holy Mitch Marner game.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

The. The way Mitch Marner is shoving it up people's hoop with the whole Mitch Marner is not good in playoffs, which I. We talked about last week.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Even before his, like last three or four games, Mitch Marner's playoff performances have been great.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

He's like just under a point per game in his time in Toronto and people are like, he's terrible here. And I'm like, what are you talking about? And I loved how Torts got asked about that and he was like, it's a bunch of.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

The way Torch will just swear in press conferences makes me so happy. He doesn't care about any. Anything.

[B]

It's crazy, dude. And I. I love. I love him on the bench. And I want to know more about his psyche.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And someday I'm gonna ask him because it. Because I think you were right where he was like, this is whatever. This is temp. And then he started to be like, wait, this is serious.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I'm like, stay temp. Yeah, stay temp. But yes, Mitch Marner, dude, he leads the playoff in points, leads the playoffs. He's playing incredibly Toronto people in shambles.

[A]

Yeah. It's unbelievable. I. I feel as though that that game in game three, because when was that?

[B]

Friday? I think so.

[A]

Yeah. Game three was the best game Vegas has played all playoffs.

[B]

Best. Remember after game two, we said we haven't seen game six, Utah Vegas at all that. That they hear now.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah. That game was unbelievable. Marner was unbelievable. So going into this game, I. I picked Ducks to win.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

I was like, I just think Ducks are great. I think Doe Stahl will have a good bounce back. And I think that they. They understand, like, hey, you know, like, come on. Don't. Don't let that game affect you. They came out hot. They got the first goal. That was huge. We went peeper peeper. That. That was also great. But the Duck showed me something, dude. To respond to Vegas's best game with a needed win and a first goal performance. You then let it get tied up on also paper. Fucking Jack Eichel on that power play.

[B]

Holy hell.

[A]

And then you get a nice. Another quick goal. It's just like the Ducks, man. This isn't a. This isn't a house money situation. Like, yeah. With Philly. Right. Philly beat Pitt. And we were kind of like, no matter what happens, Philly's just kind of laughing. There was a world where it was like, the Ducks beat Edmonton. That was sick.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Maybe they come in against Vegas and it's like, oh, we kind of emptied the clip there. But the Ducks are showing us that they're like, wrong. We are. We were top three. Say we will about the Pacific, but we were top three team in the division all year long. We are good. We're going to try to go to the cup here.

[B]

And they were. They were winning the division for most of the year. They went through two insane bad skits. We lost eight games in a row situations. Yeah. This one was awesome for me because Doe still. Dude was not good against the Oilers.

[A]

No, he was.

[B]

They won objectively.

[A]

No, he was not.

[B]

They won that series because the Oilers goalies also suck. And the Ducks power play went 50%.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's how they won. So then. And I thought, doll's been great through two games in this series. And then he gets pinballed and then gets yanked.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I'm like, oh, because if you fall back into that, you're going to lose to Vegas.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Period. Because Carter Hart's been really good in this series. So then he has a great game. That's massive. Ducks power play was over 15 or something. It might have not been that high, but I think it maybe was. But they were on an. On a horrific power play run against this team. Bang. Two goals in kind of felt like A must win for them. I'm not sure I would stand.

[A]

I know.

[B]

Because they could have done it, but just in just a massive game to get those pickups and in a game where Vegas fought. Because sometimes you get these games where you go, we have to. Like Minnesota, you go. We have to win. And then. Then you roll. Colorado. I'm not saying Colorado didn't play well. They did. They outshot him. 36, 26. But, yeah, that. That game never got close. Minnesota comfortably won in a game have.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The Ducks came into this game going. We had to have this. They took two leads. Three leads. Two. I think three leads. Because it went up four, two. Like one, nothing. Two, one, and then three, two, four, two.

[A]

That's a different lead in your mind. Yeah, I got tied twice. Oh, yeah. No, sorry. I thought you were. I thought you were saying, 3, 2, 4, 2 is a different lead.

[B]

And I'm like, that's the same three leads.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

So in a game you have to have. When the other team is not letting you have it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Where?

[A]

And it's.

[B]

And it's Howden again. And it's another ricochet. You know all this. You go. They won't go away.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That is a gutsy playoff win.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

Saw it, dude. The killer power play goal. He, like, we. That was like, right in front of us.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And he was like. I was like, great. But that's how. You know where he's like, dude, don't stop. Boys. Like, you have to stay on the gas here. They're gonna keep coming. They're going to keep coming. We have to get this. That was sick. And I just want to say for Vegas fans, because we, I and a lot of Ducks fans did a lot of bitching about the refs in the icing call on whatever game that was. Game one, I guess that power play, someone who had it at the point Beckett. Beckett passed it down the wall to Cutter and it just jumped over a stick and would have been either a clear or at the very least, like, mucked up behind the net and it just hit the ref skate and kicked right to killer. And then he walked right in front. So, yeah, I gotta say, I just gotta give Vegas fans a little credit here. Let's call it even.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Blown icing call in game one.

[A]

Great call.

[B]

Very crazy ricochet in game two. Because I don't think a lot of people. I haven't seen a lot of people on the Internet talking about that yet, but that 100% kicked off the ref skate.

[A]

And.

[B]

And literally that Goal does not happen if that doesn't hit.

[A]

It wasn't the one. You said it live. And then I was looking up at the Jumbotron at the replay. It's not like it's a crazy ricochet that then he stuffs in. It was like it bounced and gave him the opportunity to get the puck where he then had to make a play. So it wasn't that egregious, but it without question gave him an opportunity to get possession back.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And you know, that's a thing. So. Yeah, we even. Yeah, we even. I like that. You're so right. It was a great response game by the Ducks. There were a few things with, you know, you have the lead, ties up, you get the lead back. Ties up, you get the lead back, you get an insurance goal. That's huge. Love to see those moments. I also love to see some fight from Beckett. That was a big game.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Beckett is 19.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Probably hold on their end of the second period. Beckett has a great game. He obviously scores that first goal. He was all over the ice. And Dowd was all over Beckett that game 20. There was a bunch. He's 20 years old. There was. He's only 14 years old.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There were a bunch of plays in that game where Beckett was getting held behind the play, face washed behind the play. He was hacking, slashing, he was getting in the mixer. But there are times where that can go, oh, you're frustrated and you know, like you're. It's. It's throwing you off your game. But again, he already had a goal. He was playing really well. He had a couple nasty fucking plays throughout that game. But at the end of the second, Dowd comes up to him and gives him one after the whistle. And Beckett stands up. And this was a bit of frustration, but I thought it was good frustration. Beckett cross checked the fuck out of Dowd like right on top of his and crumpled him down onto the ground. And Dowd is a nasty. That's a tough customer.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And 20 year old Beckett was like you. I don't give a. Yeah. And took a penalty which the Ducks then killed me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I loved it. I love. Even with taking the penalty. I loved that because it was a young player going get. Bring it on, buddy. Like you're a fourth line grinder plug.

[B]

That's what he.

[A]

That's. I'm not saying that's what doubt is. I'm saying that's what you say as Beckett when you're mad in that situation and you go, I am a fucking Rookie of the year candidate, future superstar. I don't give a shit that I'm only 20. I don't give a shit that you're a vet. I don't give a shit that you're tough as nails. I'm gonna fight back. Yeah, I, I thought that was a metaphor for the fight back in this game by the Ducks.

[B]

Dude, it was. I, we said it on the video and we shot a great video. We'll get it out maybe tomorrow or maybe, maybe Wednesday. I'm not sure. But that was the biggest takeaway throughout the game was Beckett was in the mixer and he has got a sick goal cell. He got the first one. I was fired up. But then he was pirouetting in the zone, slashing people, throwing the body. Remember, it was like in, then that one shift in the neutral zone, Dan, where I felt like he stayed between the blue lines the whole time. He was just banging everybody that he saw. It was ridiculous. I, I, I've said a million times, I look up and down this roster, I can't believe how many good people are on the Ducks, how many good young players on this team. You said, even the second power play unit comes out and you're like, this is the first power play unit on many teams. And it is so great to see these guys getting this experience even if they fucking lose this series.

[A]

Yeah, it is.

[B]

This. These are the things that you, that you learn from and make you great moving forward as a team, because they are going to be in the mixer.

[A]

I thought it was a great game from the Ducks, obviously. Great job to tie that up. You head back to Vegas now. Really, really nice for Vegas to see Tomash Hurdle score that goal at the end.

[B]

I was about to say, you know what's funny, man?

[A]

We, we make all these empty net videos.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And people laugh when we're losing our minds. When, like, guys get close and they don't score. I, I sometimes think because of how much of a joke we make at the show is called empty netters, you know, I sometimes think fans don't understand how important empty net goals are.

[B]

They're massive.

[A]

It, dude, it is unbelievable how often the pulled goalie works.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And we saw it last night. Yes. Thank God you're up two, but you're up two. And Cutter Gotier is flying down the right side of the boards, puck on his backhand, and he's trying to shield off the defender. And he doesn't get a shot on net. He doesn't get the puck in the net. And then what do you know? Vegas comes down. Beautiful play. Tomas Shle, who has not scored in like three months, scores a goal, sees one, goes in, and now with a minute left, it's a one goal game.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And every butthole.

[B]

Oh, dude, that got tense.

[A]

Tightens up and you were like, oh my God. Then there was a part for me, the sleepy boy Dan, who was like, please let me drive home and go to bed. I was like, is this about to go into overtime? And instantly they got like a breakaway off the face.

[B]

Still made an insane save at the end. Yeah, it was ridiculous.

[A]

So empty nets are drastically important, folks. Drastically important. And I'm telling you that you. You cling to everything you can in the playoffs. Any bit of momentum, any sign of good. And for Vegas being down 2, you pull the goalie, you get a goal, and one of your best players who has not scored in a while scores. You go, that's great, dude. Very good for us.

[B]

So, yes, this is what I was going to say. And dude. Oh yeah. I. So just to more stroke the Ducks, I want to say the atmosphere there was awesome. I was. We were coming in and a lot of, you know, we're in the LA area, a lot of people there are from LA been to Kings games. People had said to us, fans were coming up to us being like, you will not believe how much rowdier it is in here than at crypto. And I found that to be very true. I will say I chirped the Kings atmosphere after game three of the AV Series. I thought that they were way, way, way better. Way better for game four. Kobe's last game added to it. But this, this Ducks vibe was fantastic.

[A]

It was fantastic. I'm gonna stick up for the Kings and for Kings fans, obviously, after you have won a playoff series beating the former Western Conference champs and you are now in the second round, your vibes are going to be better than when you're get playing the President's trophy winning wagon Avalanche and down to. It's tough. The big, the bigger thing is the Honda center is. I think there's a lot of people. Chris, who went to the Honda Center 15 years ago.

[B]

Yeah, okay, I like this.

[A]

I think when you had a diaper full of poop and you went to Disneyland ages ago, you also went to a Ducks game and you think that that gives you ground to talk about the Honda Center. Every Ducks fan, every season ticket holder will tell you how different the Honda center is even from five years ago. Yeah, it is a totally different vibe. And we always stand up For Southern hockey.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Because it is just. It is a hockey purist lame take, in my opinion, to blindly shit on different arenas just because they're in the South. Yeah. That was a great playoff environment. That was a standing room only sellout. That was a loud fucking arena with a brass band dude doing laps. That was sick.

[B]

That was so sick. And man, there's not a bad seat in the house.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, I was talking to people sitting all over the place. The views are perfect. The in game entertainment is awesome.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

The outside. We went by the violent gentleman. Violent gentleman had a whole booth up and I hate to do this. To wit.

[A]

Yeah, sorry, Wit, but they have a shirt.

[B]

Can you read it?

[A]

Yeah. It says, might as well not even watch.

[B]

This is what Whit said before the

[A]

Ducks Oilers putting a photo of wit getting bundle.

[B]

Not even watch.

[A]

I. I love wit. I'm gonna stand up for.

[B]

Saber's killing him. Hammer, that's rude Savers killing him.

[A]

It's a violation.

[B]

Duck's killing them.

[E]

They.

[B]

And they had the other one with that you got. That was like. The puck was fully.

[A]

I love that one. That's so good.

[B]

But there's a. The Valent gentleman's got the tent outside. They had the puck drop patio with the music, amazing food and the snacks.

[A]

Great food too.

[B]

It smelled unbelievable. Obviously we were down in the Impact club too, which is just. If you get. If anybody who has a chance to do that.

[A]

Yeah. I think my take is if you haven't been to a Ducks game this year, you don't have grounds to talk about the vibe in the arena.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I'm just like, let's show a little love here, man. Like so many of these. This is how hockey grows. All these awesome fan bases making it a great time at games. It makes people who are visiting places want to go to a game.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

It's like, you know, we're. We're so. Whenever these amazing teams are like, hey, you want to come to. I'm like, yeah, dude.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Like, I'm desperate to have a business trip that takes me to Winnipeg so I can have an excuse to go to a Jets game. Because I hear and know that it's a great environment. I want that to be the case at every arena.

[B]

Yes, dude. Just getting to experience the. The culture. Your. Your team's culture, your fan base's culture is so sick. So massive. Massive. Thank you to everyone of the Ducks because that was an all timer last night.

[A]

Sure was.

[B]

But to talk about Vegas, like you said, hurdle huge. Carter Hart has Been good. I would say you were kind of critical on his. On the fourth one. It just looked like you couldn't see it.

[A]

Yeah, it was a screen. Yeah, it was a screen.

[B]

The killer one, he probably wants back a little bit, but then again, killer's in alone, like jam, and you just kind of push through.

[A]

When those ones like kind of bounce in weird, I'm like, well, dude, he's right on top of him. Those are always going to kind of bounce in weird. Yeah. So I think that was just so

[B]

I think if you're Vegas, you go hurdle scored and then Marner had an assistant insist on that. He still looks great. And then Carter Hart's still pretty good. The big question is Mark Stone and the one spin zone is, well, we nearly won that game or we nearly forced that game to overtime without Mark Stone. That feels good. The downside, the negative spin zone is what is wrong and how long is he out? And my question to you, Dan, is, is Mark Stone quite literally the most injury prone player to ever live?

[A]

Yes. I mean, like, literally. Yes. I don't. I don't know. Other than players who have ended their career because they're like, I'm just too injured. I have to stop playing. For someone who continuously comes back and plays and plays as much hockey as they do. Mark Stone is the most injury prone player I know.

[B]

Everyone wants to ltir joke. They're all real. They're not. AR is not faking injuries.

[A]

He had a lacerated spleen last year. Yeah. The.

[B]

It's ridiculous that what happens to him. But my God, dude, it is. It must be painful being a Vegas Golden Knights coach, gm, teammate or fan. And you're like, I need you, dude. Like, you are Mark Stone. You are nasty.

[A]

Yeah, please, please. He is literally the most injury prone prone player to ever live. It's unbelievable. Unbelievable.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And yeah, I mean, it sucks. Like if. If he doesn't come back in Game 5 and they lose and maybe he doesn't come back in the series. But like, it's just. It's yet another. We talk about it with the abs all the time. The ABS being as good as they are with Landy back and Val healthy and back.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

You feel if you're an ABS fan, you feel like you could have. Should have won three cups in the last.

[B]

Oh, I know. Yeah.

[A]

And you're like, we got so robbed by injury. Vegas has ground to stand on with with that. With Mark Stone too.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like every time Mark Stone goes out and they lose, I would be like. Because it's another one, dude. Ask anyone in the league who has played with Mark Stone. You will hear how valuable he is and how good he is. There's a reason he's on Team Canada every year and no one cares about his injury because he's that good.

[B]

Yep.

[D]

It.

[A]

It's. It's bad when he's out. So, I mean, if they could have stolen that game, it would have been huge. So now there's a big question for game five. Does he play? And if he doesn't, what does it mean for this team?

[B]

Yeah. God damn.

[A]

All right, let's kick it finally to the sweep. Carolina is about to have two weeks off.

[B]

Okay, so first of all. And we put this up. Last step. But first of all, just huge shout out to the Canes because a double sweep is no joke that it was the first time since 1985 the Edmonton Oilers double sweep in the first two rounds. And just checking my notes, what did the 85 Oilers do? Oh, yeah. They won the fucking cup. So unbelievable stuff from the Carolina Hurricanes.

[A]

I. I want to jump in and say, because I know there's a lot of Canes fans in the chat. This is about to be a stroke off session because I think I have emerged as the biggest Cane's supporter on the Internet.

[B]

Well, I would say that we have always. Yes, we have always shown love to the Canes. And dude, I went to school there. Like, I've been to so many Canes. Carolina boy, I cannot wait if they.

[A]

You're a big Petey Pablo guy.

[B]

I hope we can go in the Eastern Conference finals.

[A]

You're a big cookout guy.

[B]

Cookout.

[A]

You're a big shooters guy.

[B]

Shoots scoots.

[A]

You're a big Durham Bulls guy.

[B]

Yep. God, dude, you just got me.

[A]

Are you the most Carolina guy I know?

[B]

Yes, I am.

[A]

I'm over here being like, I'm the, like the Canes.

[B]

I'm like, I. I am the Canes, pal. I am the fucking Canes.

[A]

But I picked sweep and then I picked five.

[B]

Yeah, that's really good. I picked five and six. So I'm always just. I know it's double sweep. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. So it's unbelievable. They. I have a lot to say about them. So before we do all of that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you kind of do this already, but just a hell of a season from Philly.

[A]

Hey, can we do it go like this real quick for Philly? Hey, Philly, you had both your teams get swept out of the playoffs in the same day.

[B]

Oh, dude.

[A]

Or same day. Or Same weekend.

[B]

Same weekend. Same weekend I actually wanted to do. There was. There was so many as funny.

[A]

I.

[B]

If.

[A]

Hey, Locks, if you're watching this, get. You get your bitch ass in here and answer for Joel Embiid's legacy performance.

[B]

Dude. There was so much. When the Bruins and Celtics lost. There was so much like, tough, tough weekend to be a Boston fan. Like, the whole world rejoices. And I was like, the fuck.

[A]

CEO Jack was like, I've been waiting my entire life for this Boston downfall. The Boston downfall lasted two seconds because I then got to see the Philly all insane. But that said, we saw Boston sucks.

[B]

We suck.

[A]

We're loser town.

[B]

So the Flyers had an incredible season. There was the. The Canes looked better the whole time.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

But there was fight still. Right? Like, we got two games over time. JP said to me, in a parallel universe, it's 2.

[C]

2.

[B]

Which is true, right? Like OT Hockey, anything can happen. And in a parallel universe, the series is two. Two, and you're going holy. Who knows? True. The Canes got the bounces and. And. And they earned the bounces. It wasn't luck.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, they earned the bounces, but the Flyers. JP himself said, if the Flyers get hummed in four, I don't care. This has been incredible. It has been. And I'm. I'm actually really excited for that team. The only things I want to say about them before the Cane stroke is, I think Vladar is great. Yeah.

[A]

I think he. I think he showed that they don't have goalie questions. Now, I would go and get him help. I would get him a good tandem, and it might. It might be arson. Like, I. But if you don't feel comfortable at that, I would. I would consider finding him help. Because through the regular season, the tandem is the move.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I think Ladar is like, I'm fucking starting goalie in the NHL and

[B]

that's fucking hairs, dude.

[A]

Like, when he does.

[B]

I know he. It wasn't even that bad of a goal, but he just like.

[A]

But he was pissed, and I love that. I agree.

[B]

And then my question to Philly fans, and we don't need to answer this now, but my fear, my wonder is Mitch cough looked so good last year. This year was not bad. He had over 20 goals at 50 points. I think something like that. But.

[A]

And.

[B]

And I anticipate a sophomore slump. I always anticipate a sophomore slump, but I worry a little bit about Mitch cough and talk, because talk doesn't seem to be the coach that is like, just do Your thing, bro. Like I. And which is kind of interesting because Zegris. That was like the big Zegras problem.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Like Zegras wants to Michigan and whatever. How is he going to work with Talk. And he had a great year. But I, I am just slightly scared that mit. That Talk won't let Mitchkoff fly. And Mitch Goff is a player you need to let fly because he.

[A]

Right.

[B]

He could be a hell of a guy.

[A]

I've got a hell of a guy. Hell of a guy. I've got a couple things on that. And then I have a. Another big topic. Mitch Cough. He's definitely that type of guy. We actually ricochet shot at Boston. We were talking with our pal Mason last night at the game.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And we were talking about Seneca. And it's amazing. It's 20 year old Seneca. The way Quenville lets Seneca roll. That's. That's. You need that.

[B]

Dude.

[A]

I, I know the Ducks are a young team. I know there's not competition in the lineup.

[B]

That's wrong.

[A]

Look at how many. Frank Vetrano is health bombed on this team. You bet your ass there's competition. The way Quenville lets these young guys run. It's. It's. You have to do it. When you pick a guy that high. You have to do it. And the ricochet shot at Boston is. I, I, I liked the kid line. Minton. Who's Nadinoff and. And Higgins. Higgins is your seventh overall pick. He is like the future offensive star of this team.

[B]

You.

[A]

You. And maybe it's next year. Whatever. You've got to play him. Top two lines.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

You cannot. Tyler Sagan, this kid. You cannot. Jake DeBrusk this kid.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You can't pick these kids this high and then go. You're a third line grinder. That's how you're going to get your way into the NHL. Man.

[B]

Be responsible.

[A]

You got to learn some lessons here. Wrong. You've let them play their game. So you're absolutely right about that. Oh. The one thing I will say that I don't know if Mitch Cough is showing up out of shape.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If he's not working on that shit.

[B]

What was that clip though?

[A]

Mitch Cough's camp.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Fuck. Cut that shit out too.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Dude. Drink some light. You should be drinking light.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Have some light beers.

[B]

Try it.

[A]

Maybe take the bun off the burger. I don't care what it. And I'm not. I'm not suggesting. Because I don't know. But if we've heard a lot of the Reports if you are showing up out of shape, if you aren't taking practice seriously. You also got to fix that because this is a fun Philly team. It's an exciting group, and you are an exciting player. Be a part of it. Don't be an issue. Now my other thing on talk it. I don't know if you saw this video surfaced of talk at Philly barstool after the game, after the loss.

[B]

Yeah, I haven't seen it.

[A]

He's just drinking. He's at the bar having some beers after the game. There were some fans who were mad about that. No, no, no, no, no.

[B]

Grow up, dude. They just lost.

[A]

It's. It's. And this isn't even. I'm not gonna talk to. To those fans, please.

[B]

Yeah, hell yeah, you can.

[A]

Come on, Zach. Look at that transition

[B]

dude

[C]

who.

[D]

This was locks right after the game. This is what a sad Philly fan looks like.

[A]

Wait a minute.

[B]

Look at this dude. And. And nothing makes me happy.

[A]

Look at that custom cloth Giroux captain jersey. That's incredible.

[B]

Nothing makes me happier than that dude. That just. You know what, dude? I'll watch beast games till 5am because of this.

[A]

Another year. Same always next year. Look at how many signs he has. The tissues are unbelievable. Zach, that's fantastic.

[B]

Thank you so much.

[A]

I'm so glad you captured that. Yeah. So this is not me talking to any fans who were. Who were complaining about that. It's more of a. The season is so long, guys. When you lose, you gotta have pops with the boys.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I don't care.

[B]

And I mean immediately.

[A]

I don't care if you get swept. I don't care if you lose in overtime of Game 7 of the Stanley cup final.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

You gotta have pops with the boys. In fact, if anything, Philly fans, I think you should be thrilled. That talk. It's in the mixer like that.

[B]

Yeah, true.

[A]

Because that's like. That's a guy that you go to war with. That's like. The players are like, I want talk here. Having some pops while we're commiserating. That's fantastic.

[B]

In it together.

[A]

Also, let's stop filming people.

[B]

Agree.

[A]

You know, agree. Like, let people live. Stop filming people and putting it on.

[B]

Chill out.

[A]

Like, what are you doing? Carolina.

[B]

Carolina. And. And I mean, my God, the Hall. Jackson, Blake, Stank line is out of control. Stank cannot stop scoring. Jackson, Blake cannot stop scoring. Freddie Anderson cannot stop being a sick who will never. Who. Who is personally offended by goals going in the net. I bet he doesn't even like it when his team scores because it doesn't

[A]

even like seeing it.

[B]

I mean, can we.

[A]

Can we talk about this? Chris, this game. Forester gets a goal. Great.

[B]

Yep. Good job. Yeah. Hell yeah. Philly.

[A]

Little fight. Fight. Little fight. Jackson Blake. Assisted by Taylor hall and Keandre Miller.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Jackson Blake, Taylor hall, then Stankeven. Red hot. Yeah. Assisted by Taylor hall and Jackson Blake. Bump scores. Ties it up.

[B]

And I real quick on that. Bump is who didn't follow his check to let stank him and get loose and take the lead there for him. Just come back and score like a minute later was awesome.

[A]

Then in ot, Jackson Blake, goal. Assisted by Jacob Slavin and Taylor Hall. Taylor hall and Jackson Blake had themselves a fucking night.

[B]

They've had themselves a playoff. They've had themselves a series. It is insane, dude. It is insanely insane what they're doing.

[A]

It is insane. You mentioned first time a team has won their first eight games of the playoffs. Back to back sweep since 1985. Edmonton Oilers. You can guess who was on that team. I will not hear any more. The Canes have played no one. Okay?

[B]

Why?

[A]

Because I don't give a shit who you're playing.

[B]

Me neither.

[A]

Sweeping a team in playoffs is hard. Multiple overtime games, multiple overtime wins. Sweeping two teams is hard, yes. Their competition has not been as tough as other teams. No question. But dude, back to back sweeps. Can we please put some respect on the Cane's name? You don't need to glaze them like we're doing.

[B]

Right.

[A]

You don't need to do that. But put some respect on their names. They have not lost a game in these playoffs. They have not lost and played and

[B]

played every type of way. They've come back. They've won overtime games. They've won blowouts. They're doing it all.

[A]

I kept going on and on about how they play with their food. They let these teams look like they're in it and then they still find a way to win. They've done that time and time again. Next round is going to be a way bigger test. Way bigger test, no matter what. But if you want to talk about the Canes and if you want to go, well, look what happens every year in the third round. Go for it, sure. But I am not going to sit here and be another boobird when all they've done these playoffs is show that they were the best team in the east all year. Yeah, they were the best team in the east regular season. All year. They've been the best team in the east these playoffs because they have not fucking lost a game. So I am going to continue to believe in them and I'm going to continue to pick them. And if they lose in the third round, let that shit talk. Come bring it at me. Yeah, I'll take that. Fine. But I am so sick of just the, you know. Oh, yeah. I'm not impressed.

[C]

Why?

[B]

Yeah, I guess it's got to be both because someone just said. Right. It's. Yeah. Oh, David. He goes. So they. If you went by one through eight, which we don't do. If you went by one through eight, they played. They've played seven and eight.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

So that's a fact.

[A]

And yeah.

[B]

And you know what another fact is? We handled our shit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Which I think you also have to respect without question. Because I go, what do you want them to do? What would be better? Would it be cooler for the Canes to go, oh, man, they've played to six gamers.

[A]

And like, here's the thing. And I know they played tougher competition, guys, but Dallas was number two in the West. Yeah, they're out.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

They were out in six by. So it's like, here's a team who's been number one. They've earned number one all season long. And I know we don't do one through eight, but the fact that they played seven and eight, I'm like, they fucking earned that by being the best team.

[B]

Yeah, correct.

[A]

Certainly eight. They earned playing eight because they were the best team and they swept the shit out of them.

[B]

And then sometimes teams upset other teams and then. Then you play them. And by the way, also, they would have swept Pittsburgh. Yeah. By the way, there's no. We don't know anything yet about the next round because I think. And I. I mean, not to buzz kill again, but I said yes. The Cane season is obviously going to be defined by what happens in the Eastern Conference finals. Right. Like, no one, no one is saying, yeah, dude, if we lose in these conference finals, doesn't matter anymore because we had a double sweep. No one's saying that. No one in Raleigh is saying that. They're going, no shit. We need to have a better performance in this next round. But if. What happens if they. What happens if they go up 30 against Buffalo or Montreal?

[A]

Oh, dude. Yeah. It doesn't matter how they play. It is going to be that. That the way the fucking Beatdown. The Cane's admin put on Philly fans. And the beat down Stormy put on gritty.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Was it. Was. It was assault.

[B]

It's Assault, brother.

[A]

And if you don't think the cane's admin is going to have a field day with whoever they play next round, if the canes are up and winning, it is going to be biblical.

[B]

Yeah. So all the cane shit talkers. I'm just saying be careful, be careful. Because if the canes are different, and I know it's like how many times you're going to get called the horse before you get fitted for a saddle, but if the canes are different this year, then you better be careful with all the shit you talked about. Wake me up in the third round.

[A]

You've got, you've got nothing to say. Yeah, I talked about round one. I was like, if you get swept, you got to take your medicine. If you are a, if you are a professional hater, shit talking the canes online and the canes win anyway.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

In the Eastern Conference final, you have to sit down, put on a bib and take your medicine and not speak. You have nothing to say. But again, I will take the shit if they lose as well. Yep. So that's that. I only thing left.

[B]

I mean, listen, I have something, another sweet something left.

[A]

All right, then go.

[B]

And I know you don't even want to hear this, but this one is significant. This break is going to be crazy.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yep.

[B]

I know how you can love it.

[A]

I, Dude, I'll tell you exactly how I love this break. I, I, you've, you've all heard me say this. I think the break, fear, I think it's dumb. I don't, I don't get it. They're going to have an extra week here, which is nuts.

[B]

If Buffalo, Montreal goes seven, they have 12 days off.

[A]

Yeah. Crazy. They are going to have a lot of time and I hope that series goes seven for if there's any team I need this for, it is them. Because two people key. Freddie Anderson, Jacob Slavin.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Just take, get, get all the treatment.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Get all the treatment. Stay healthy, stay buzzing. Got some inside sources inside that locker room. They are fired up. They are at the time.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They are so in it. They are so locked in. They're so focused. They're buzzing. They are a wagon. I think this time off will do nothing. And frankly, Chris, if it goes seven, as we've seen, this is going to be a. Buffalo and Montreal are beating the shit out of each other. And just like we saw with Knick Sixers, just like we saw with Buffalo taking care of Montreal in game one after that crazy Tampa series, I think These teams are going to be the fucking knight in Monty Python. Holy Grail. With a flesh wound, hobbling on one leg and no arm coming in. Game one against the Canes going, we're ready.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And the Canes are going to win 10 nothing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They're gonna go. We are fucking fresh as lettuce. Yep. I love it. I don't think it's gonna affect them at all.

[B]

I was obviously.

[A]

Look at that. Dude. There's storm. That's not Stormy at all. But Stormy called in a toilet paper tornado.

[B]

But I like that guy. I like that guy.

[A]

And kill Gritty. That look on Gritty's face is terrifying.

[B]

That's awesome.

[A]

How are you cooking these up so fast?

[B]

Dude, I was obviously wrong about the ABs break. Meaning I guarantee the ABs would lose game one after the break. But. And they did not. But I will say they certainly did not. Look, that was not a normal hockey game. You know, I. I'm a little rattled if this does go that long. And honestly, good point about slaving for me. It's just the goalies. Freddy's been so awesome, and I know he loves. He needs his health and his rest, but it's just seeing game action pucks. You literally cannot simulate it. We've heard from Sway. We've heard from a million guys about this practice, no matter what. Even if your NHL team is scrimmaging.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's just not the same picking up the puck. And. And so I'm. That's my concern. I'm not saying he can't do it. My concern is Freddie Anderson has been a gem.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And in the playoffs. And if he comes out and he's like, oh, I kind of threw me off having eight months off.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

It's 2028.

[A]

It is possibly going to be 12 days, which would be insane. But I think they're going to be fine. I. I think they've. They've just shown everyone everything they possibly can. And I love to see it.

[C]

It.

[A]

I. I think this team is so fun and awesome and. Yeah. I mean, listen, all the talkers. Be careful. Kane talkers too, though. Be careful.

[B]

Oh, oh, oh. Kane's fans.

[A]

Kane's fans.

[B]

Actually, Good point, because the. The Cane's chat is very. Is very confident right now.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. The chat is very confident. X has been very confident. And again, I'm a Kane's glazer. I'm a Cane supporter, but I'm not talking.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm just boost. I'm talking. I'M like, the Canes are, are, are playing phenomenal. They're real this year. I do think that they are different. But the biggest test awaits.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So it's honestly bigger than the cup.

[B]

I know, dude.

[A]

It's like, like you, you, you simply have to win this next series. Otherwise the talk will never, never stop, dude.

[B]

Because it's indeed God forbid they get run. Like if they lose a back and forth.

[A]

I, I am telling you right now, that will literally never happen.

[B]

I think that's probably correct. I'm willing to stamp that.

[A]

And I, I, I reserve the right to take that back depending on who wins because I don't want to get clipped here. But God, I do not think that they will get swept.

[B]

God forbid they get run in the ecf.

[A]

Oh, my God. I don't know what would happen.

[B]

Like, dude, you got to be kidding me.

[A]

All right, that's going to wrap up this live. Nice long one.

[B]

Wait. An important thing to say because we got 416 people in the YouTube right now.

[A]

You.

[B]

Everybody, please. I'm going to. Let me put it in the chat. Everybody, please. If you haven't this weekend, is the virtual. Was the, is the Goodreau 5K in honor of John and Maddie if you're in Jersey.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Or if you're, you might do something in New York, right? Yeah.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

But it's happening this Saturday. But they're doing a virtual 5K which means you just literally, you donate, you give 35 bucks, you join the Empty Netters. You can join whatever team you want. Start, start your own team with your friends. But we created Empty Nutters Team. I'm going to put it in the slack right now. They're trying to get over it.

[A]

Put it in the slack. You mean the chat?

[B]

I'll take it from Slack and put it in the chat.

[A]

All right. If you're in the YouTube chat, CP is putting in the chat right now the link to join the Empty Netters team. And here's the, here's the deal, folks. You don't need to walk.

[B]

You don't have to do anything.

[A]

It is a virtual walk. You can walk in your mind.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

You click on this link if you can. Means the world to us. Means the world to the Goudreau family. Donate 35 bucks, sign up on our team. Sign up however you want. Doesn't matter. But click that link. $35 donation goes to an amazing cause. We're honoring the memory and legacy of John and Matty Goudreau, helping support that family Helping support the hockey community. And if you want to walk, amazing, genuinely so amazing. And do us a favor, send the pictures to us. Take pictures of the walk. Whoever you're with, your dog, your friends, your family, send them to us in the DMs. We're going to send them to the Goudreau family and to the foundation so they can get all those photos up. And I am going to do another big post about this. But if you are in New York City, I am going to be doing a walk in the city. We're starting in Washington Square Park. We're going to do a nice 5k walk. We're going to end up at a bar, restaurant, have some food, hang out. It's going to be fantastic. It's going to be a beautiful day. Please join me. Bring your dogs, bring anyone. It'll be a blast. But again, you don't even have to walk. Just click that link. Donate sign up. We're going to pump these numbers and take pictures.

[B]

Tag them the Goudreau family, 5K. They'll repost everything. Listen, there's 348 people in here. We were trying to get them over a thousand. We're only 100 away. If all of you who, who can hop on and pop in there right now, we'll get them over the mark. It's going to be a great event.

[A]

It's going to be fantastic. Can't wait. Also, if you missed this episode of the Live, we're going to be posting this and in addition to it will be the interview with Jane and Gigadrow, John and Maddie's parents. They're unbelievable. Could not love them more. It's a great chat. You hear more about all this stuff. So do us a favor. After this episode gets loaded up, go check that out and listen to that awesome interview. And two amazing people.

[B]

It's incredible. You're gonna love it.

[A]

Game tonight, only one wild avalanche, 5pm Pacific. We will be recording tonight. Episode coming out tomorrow. Alec Martinez joining the show. As we've said, we're going to see a lot more of him. So we'll see you tomorrow morning on the normal episode. Again, click that link. Donate if you can. We love you guys so, so, so much. We'll see you tomorrow.

[B]

Okay? We are joined today by two very special guests, Guy and Jan Godot Goudreau. From the second annual Goudreau 5K Family and Fun Day coming up this weekend. Because I think this is going to drop Monday.

[A]

Yep, yep.

[B]

So coming up this weekend, we're so pumped to have you, too. Thanks so much for joining us.

[C]

Thanks for having us.

[A]

Absolutely. So we've had the pleasure of talking with Gillian all about this, and obviously we've talked to so many of the guys who have participated and donated jerseys and all of this amazing stuff. How. How fun is. Has this been for you, seeing how great it went last year and then getting amped up for this year and seeing all the virtual walks that go on as well. Is this just. Just a special time for you both leading up to this and, you know, seeing more people participate and how. How much it's grown already in just two years?

[C]

Yes, I think it's for. For Ghee and I especially, it's. It means so much to us to see how many people really loved John and Maddie and our family and that how they want to support the boys and just be there for all of us and to just. Just a testament to what wonderful people they were like. We always knew that they were great guys, but it's nice to see that the rest of the hockey community and even outside the hockey community also recognizes how supportive they were and how helpful. And it just says for parents, I mean, it's great. You know, we. We always loved all the sports. We love that they were athletes. It was so much fun watching, watching them. But seeing them grow up as good people, that's what every parent really wants. That's, you know, they. You want to raise your children to be good people and people to respect. And I feel like, you know, that's, you know, John, Maddie, Kristen and Katie are two daughters. You know, they're all like that, and we're very fortunate for that. So this 5k has just been a way to. For people to come around and show us how much the boys meant to them. Like, they'll come and they'll tell us stories. People will write letters. It was just so, so nice to just hear other people say so many nice things about them.

[B]

Yeah, absolutely. And I heard you say last year, right after the event, I heard you say that one thing that's so special about it is honoring these boys or doing things to honor your boys is a way that can make them proud in your eyes, and it made you so happy. So I'm curious now we're on the second one, but how did the idea for the first one even come about? How. How did you get the ideas going to start this last year?

[E]

Really? We have a lot of. We've made a lot of friends through hockey that are, you know, and our. Our. Them. Their Kids and our. And our two boys are all good friends and they're going through the same. Probably not as big a grieving process we're going through, but they felt that they really wanted to do something to honor the boys. So they came with an idea of a 5K and then to get. Build this special needs playground for kids that. Where my wife works and my daughter works. But the first year was pretty much them doing everything. We really weren't much help. Not that we're a lot of help this year either. But

[C]

they're so good like they are.

[E]

They're really amazing. Yeah. Really into this. And again we. We still have a lot of. A long ways to go to be somewhat normal anymore. So. Yeah, it's nice though. When last year we went to the 5k, we pulled in, it was like around 6:30 and I'm looking at all these people, I'm like, I really didn't think I could face all those people, you know, so. But it was kind of. It was nice. They were all very genuine and just there to support us and make us feel good about a bad situation that.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

And. And a lot of goods come from it and all because, you know, John and Matt were tremendous young men and they were well loved by a lot of people. And his. Jane and I are, you know, we have a lot of really, really good friends that took upon themselves to do this for the boys. And so. And this year we're a little more involved, but we still have a long ways to go. Jane and I and our daughters and our. And so. But it, yeah, it is really, really special because we have a lot of people like you guys are helping us promote it, which is really special and probably it'll be bigger this year than it was last year and hopefully it'll grow every year.

[A]

Yeah, absolutely. And Guy, you. You talk about the hockey community and it's such a real thing and it's why, you know, a big reason why we leapt at the opportunity to talk to you and help spread the word about this because we, we love it so much. We believe in it so much and have so many of those mutual connections because we always joke that the hockey community is so big but so small at the same time. And there's just so much love there. But it's also so cool to see how this has come about and working with the, The Damiano school that obviously Jane, you work at, Kristen's, worked at, the boys, always volunteered at. How special has it been for the two of you in this time when you're trying to heal and trying to grow. Having so many different communities that you're so close with and have been a part of for such a long time rally together and try to lift you up and try to grow this thing and spread the word and just really inject a lot of love and strength into this moment. That must feel pretty amazing to see.

[C]

It does. I've said from the very beginning that I felt like the hockey community and others outside of that, but especially the hockey community, whether it was from Calgary to Philly to Columbus, where the boys played their USHL and Omaha and Dubuque, Boston College, where they went to college, so many people just reached out to us, and I felt like it was like a one big hug. I felt like they were kind of just taking our whole entire family and just, you know, giving us that warmth and hug and that, you know, just made us feel, you know, at a really, really difficult time and really hard time. It just. They were there to kind of rally around us and help us. And throughout, you know, the months, we've gotten so many people that through either messages or on social media or even in the mail that have reached out to us and thanked us for helping them, which I couldn't understand at all for a while. But they were. They were saying to see you be so strong and to take your grief and try to make it something positive so that your boys will be proud of you. It just gave so many other people that were experiencing this hope where g. And I did not say that because at home we think we are not doing well because, you know, it's just. It's just such a hard, terrible thing to go through, and you're so sad, and I feel like. But when we're doing things for the boys and we're thinking about them and trying to, you know, grow the game of hockey and donate to special special needs or the. You know, we've done a lot with. We're going to do a lot with USA Hockey, and they're, you know, six disciplines and just. It just makes us feel good that we're doing something to keep John and Meg, John and, excuse me, John and Maddie's legacy alive and keep them going. And I feel like that is also helping us. Never did I think that we would be in turn helping other people who are also grieving, think that, you know, well, maybe we, you know, maybe we can get through it, too, because if you were to see us at home, sometimes it doesn't. It definitely doesn't look like that. I'm sure. To our daughters who have her, who see us through this every day and, you know, have been such a tremendous support because, you know, I don't think there's enough ever said for sibling loss. I think, you know, you hear so much about, you know, parents or spouses, but there's not enough that for a sibling because I see what our girls are going through and you know, other people, you know, like, have lost Guy and I lost two people that were meant the world to us, but our daughters really have lost four because they lost their two brothers and then they also lost the parents that they had. Because we will never be the same again, even though we try. It was Katie's wedding and we went, we had, you know, and we did have a nice time. Katie incorporated so much about the boys into her entire wedding. It was amazing. And we just felt like they were there, but it still wasn't like it would have been, you know, if it had happened, you know, a year ago when we had all been together. So I think, and to answer to your question, it's just so many people coming together and really helping us and you know, in turn we want to give back and help other people.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh my God, absolutely. And one thing you said, Guy, a while ago, just not even expecting to be able to think you could face that many people. Was so eye opening to me hearing that. And it's so cool because like you said last year, 2,500 total participants, 55,550k raised and now getting even bigger. But it is so nice that it's getting bigger because you survive on community, right? You survive on people being there for each other and meeting each other and sharing stories, sharing memories. I think that is so awesome. And, and one thing that we got excited about looking up the event was it's not just the 5k, right? People can come, volunteer, participate, watch all that stuff. But there's other cool events, like you can walk and then you've got some kids stuff. And I really want to hear about the diaper dash because that sounds so exciting to me. Can you tell us a little bit about all the other stuff you have going for the kids and families that come?

[C]

Sure. Last year it was mainly the. We had two 5Ks run. Is that correct? Well, we had, yeah, competitive and a

[E]

non competitive, non competitive one is mostly walkers. So this year we did instead of two 5Ks with the 5K competitive 5K. And then we did the 2 mile walk and strollers and, you know, wheelchairs. Wheelchairs and whatever. And then we, we Have a. A company has come in. It's called the Dreams.

[C]

Dream come true.

[E]

Yeah, it's all like

[C]

face painting, all

[E]

kinds of things for the kids.

[C]

She's bringing Bluey, which, you know, if you nice gonna definitely be a highlight.

[E]

And then. Then we have the diaper dash. Then we have Kish Dash. We also have a cornhole tournament, which John and Matt love doing. So we have a lot of people participating in that. You know, we have competitive dancers from my daughter's dance studio are going to be dancing. We have Lauren Hart, who sings the national anthem for the Flyers. She does an national anthem. We have Gritty. Yeah, we got Gritty. Who else do we have?

[C]

Gritty and the Billy Fanatic.

[E]

Philly Fanatic.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[C]

This is unbeliever. Their mascots coming. Of course, the. The kids high school. Their mascot, which is the Ram. He's coming. It's just a lot of it. And our. Our chairperson of our 5K, which is one of our good friends and it also happens to be John and Maddie's one of their best friends, mom and dad, they're the ones that. The mother, she's the one that kind of, you know, she's the chairperson. She does everything. She's also the chairperson of our foundation. I mean, she just does everything. And then we are so fortunate to have other people help. But she said we were trying to. Everything we did, we wanted to do based on what we thought the boys would like or if they were here, what they would do. And so many of, you know, their friends, along with, you know, both of my boys and my oldest daughter. And then my. My daughter is the youngest one, is expecting but not ready for the diaper dash yet. But she's not. She shouldn't be here till July or. Hey, we're not sure. They keeping it a surprise. They didn't want to find out. But Debbie, our chairperson, said, let's do a diaper dash because so many of the boys friends have babies now. So let's try to diaper dash. So that's going to be new. We're not sure how that's going to go. You know, you never know with, you know, toddlers hoping that someone crosses the finish line, you know. But it's nice, the diaper dash. Everyone's a winner. So everyone gets.

[B]

Yeah. Yes.

[C]

Like a little. A little baby gift. Like who can pick one? You know, we'll just be happy if one of them cross. You know, I mean, I can see, you know, like them all just sitting around in the same area, but Whatever. It'll just bring, I feel like, so much joy and love to, you know, what could have been. You know, the basis is such a sad time. But, you know, we're just trying to uplift everyone and just, yeah. Do the best we can to get on with, you know, making the boys as proud of us as we possibly can.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Jane, I love. I love those, you know, the Diaper Dash videos, when a baby gets, like, one inch away from the diapers.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

And then they turn around.

[B]

Turn around and they go backwards.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We're going to need to get some side action going on in the Diaper Dash for sure. But, I mean, Jane, I love what you said about the emphasis on building things around this event and all of these different things going on around what the boys loved and, you know, the way that they showed love to other people and their community. And it is just so uplifting seeing everything that the both of you are doing and the both of you are participating in. And, you know, it resonates so intensely how, you know, you're both just trying to take it a day at a time and trust us, we get that. And I need you both to know, from our perspective and from everyone in this community, you are both so otherworldly, inspiring doing all of these things, being out in the community, Seeing you two in Milan was remarkable for us. And it's just. I know it feels impossible some days, but I love to hear that there are people coming up to the two of you saying how much you're inspiring them, how much strength that you're giving them, because you are really doing that for the two of us. Every time we see you guys out doing things like this and making sure that the spirit of your two boys, who are two of the greatest people ever, live on, and we all get to learn more about them through things like this, it's unbelievable. And I just. I can't tell you how much we love to see it and why we were so excited to be a part of this in any small way that we can, because it is the actions of the two of you that are just giving us all so much strength and positivity and love and joy. And I hope that you both see that in the way everyone is reacting to this, because it is. It's so important to. To, you know, keep the two of them alive and their love continuing to shine and. And the way that you're both stepping up every day, it's unbelievable. And, you know, I really hope that you can see that.

[C]

Well, thank you.

[E]

Thank you very much.

[A]

Yeah, absolutely. The.

[B]

And last year it was because I think the playground went up in October, if I remember correctly.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it must have been so cool to see a tangible thing come from the, from the proceeds and everything. That's so awesome. And this year, can you talk about where the proceeds will go this year? I know you're the presenting Spartans, the Hollydale Ice arena, and, and there's a youth hockey movement. Can you talk a little bit about what's happening with, with all the fundraising this year?

[E]

Yeah, we, we, we kind of like geared ourselves towards when the kids were little, what they liked and they loved. They, they loved hockey. So with the grassroots of hockey, we're going to be involved and learn to skate, learn to play. And then we really got getting involved with the Atlantic District, which is our district for USA Hockey, with their sled hockey, special needs blind hockey. We're going to donate a large amount of the portions to them. So.

[C]

Sorry.

[E]

Sorry. So a lot of a big part of proceeds will go to special needs hockey. We've been communicating with them and they put a budget together and we, we, hopefully we can give them a large amount of money so they can try to get kids that do need, that want to play hockey, that can't play hockey because they can't afford a sled or can't afford ice time, can't afford USA Hockey insurance. So as you will well know, if you, you played hockey and your parents obviously dedicated their lives to. If you're a hockey player, you really don't have a life if you're a parent. Right. You're. You're from.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Every penny you have goes, goes towards hockey sticks and whatever. Same thing goes for special needs. You know, they can't afford sled or can't afford ice time, can't even afford the USA Hockey insurance. So that's where we're going to put a lot of our money, but we're still going to get involved in trying to help kids that need help to get into hockey. And then, you know, so we're going to be involved in trying to get more kids into hockey in South Jersey.

[A]

Yeah, that's the best. It's.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Go ahead. Well, I was, Guy, I was, I was gonna say, I mean, I, I first of all, as every hockey player can say, thank you both so much for being some of the best hockey parents in the world, because we do know how much you sacrifice for everything. But I love that you've stayed so involved. And I mean, Guy, you are so such a hockey Guy, I believe. Correct me if I'm wrong, but were you on the ice last night or the night before, playing in a pickup game?

[E]

Yeah, yeah, last night. Yeah, last night. Yeah, I still skate. Well, I, I, if you call it skating, I call it moving really slow on skates, but, you know, like, these last two years are 20 months. My brain hasn't worked very well. So I'm, I did do last winter. I worked with the. One of the rinks of their AAA teams and his skills clinic on Monday nights. It went fairly well, but, you know, I'm trying to get my brain back into it because before this all happened, that boys mad found out he's having a little boy. And they both cornered me and said, well, dad, you. You're going to have to come out and retire. You have to coach our kids, right? You have to teach them how to play hockey. And you taught it just the way you taught us. And I'm like, all right, I'll do it for you guys. But so then we went through what we went through. We're still going through. And, you know, I know I made a promise to him. The kids are getting a little older now, so John's oldest one, Noah, and Johnny, are close enough to the age where they can be on the ice. And then Matthew's little boy, Tripp, and John's younger one, Carter, they're only about four or five months away from being on the ice. So I got to get these guys going. So, yeah, again, I, I'm sure I'm not going to be the same coach I was before, but I'll try, do the best I can.

[C]

I think he'll be a little nicer to his children than he was.

[A]

Yeah, we've heard the stories about how you did, you know, kind of a dictator out there with, with John and Maddie.

[E]

But, yeah, it wasn't just, it wasn't just them. I was pretty hard on them.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Most kids that I worked with, I

[B]

expected a lot of opportunity.

[E]

Yeah, it was equal child abuse.

[A]

Honestly, my favorite coaches.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

That's how you learn.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

I mean, it fires us up.

[C]

It was so funny. The summer of 2024, it was right before, you know, it was going to be the Four nations and the Olympics and, And John was really, you know, he's getting a little bit older, so now he's realizing, wow, like, it's not as easy just to, you know, pop out of bed and just play, like, your best. So he decided that prior to this summer, Ski would say, I'm going to Train you this summer to John and Maddie when they were playing. And they were like, yeah, no, no, thank you. You know, I'm done that, you know. You're crazy, dad. So it was funny. The summer of 2024, John decided that he really wanted to make. You know, he's always wanted to play in the Olympics. And he said, I want to win a Stanley Cup. I want to help my team. So he went to Guy and he said, dad, I really need you to train me this summer. Like, we're going to work together, and I want to be in the best shape I possibly can. And he was like, right on that. He was like, okay, that's. That's great. And I was at work. I'm at my desk and I get a cut, and it's John, a call. And I forget what he was calling me for. I think it was something like what time we were going to do something for dinner or I'm not sure. And I said, I said, where are you? You're in your car. And he said, he was talking on the Bluetooth. And I said. He goes, yeah. And I said, are you by yourself? He said, yeah. I said, why are you by yourself? And he goes, oh, I'm on my way to the rink to skate. I said, oh, really? I said, dad didn't say that when I left for work. I said, does he know? Is he supposed to meet you? And he goes, shh, mom, don't tell him. Whatever you do, don't tell him. I have to go to the rink several times before that crazy man gets me on the ice and says that I'm out of shape. I can't. I'm not very fast. I can't do this. He said, I have to precondition to go to dad to get conditioned, you know, and it was just like, so funny. And I was just like, that's exactly what, you know, what G would have said, you know, like, what have you been doing? You took off two weeks, you know, And John would be like, I just got done playing dad. Like, you know, people get vacation. And he goes, but I, you know, took about three weeks. And he goes. And I. I knew that I. I'm going to go on the ice like three or four times before I even tell dad, so don't tell him. And I never told him. It was just, I think just recently when someone had asked something about the Olympics and how important it was and that I told the story that he had heard because, you know, he didn't. He didn't know that, you Know that John was preconditioning before became his coach again. But the boys have both said that. They said he's probably the hardest coach we've ever had. Ever.

[D]

Oh yeah.

[B]

You know, the training before the training is even harder.

[A]

I was going to say smart guy. The preconditioning, that's how you sort survive. It's genius.

[C]

Exactly.

[B]

That's, that's so great. And then, and, and bringing up the Olympics. What. Because you know, we were there too. Like Dan was just saying. And what an incredible experience that was and journey for those boys. And what was it like? Because I don't. Because we larks. Dylan Larkin came on right after and was talking about a lot of it and from everything he said, it was totally spontaneous. But what a moment bringing the kids out on the ice. What was that like for you, you guys to just watch that happen as the boys are winning a gold medal?

[E]

Yeah, it was pretty cool. Like we're just sitting in the stands and all. Once I, I made eye contact with Dylan, he was looking for us and obviously. And then Matt Kacha called up Meredith and said, hey, we're going to bring the kids on the ice. So they, they came out and grabbed the kids, put them on the ice. What a great experience for the two, the two kids, you know, and that's something they'll know or see. I don't know if they'll remember, but they'll see pictures of it the rest of their life. Right. So.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

But you know, I know most of those guys and maybe you guys know most of them too. But they, they are great, great young men. I'm so proud of them to win the gold medal. They, they worked hard, they, they played as a team and there was a, you know, it was really quite an honor to see him win the stand the gold medal, you know. But you know, on the flip side, there's part of me that was like, you know, hurting really bad because.

[A]

Yeah, of course, of course I could

[E]

imagine my son being out there winning a gold medal for his country, which is what he really wanted to do and that was taken away from him. So. Yeah. But yeah, I, I was really proud of the boys doing for what they did. It was really quite an honor.

[C]

It just shows what special guys or men that they were to at that point in time. They just won the Olympics in, you know, that.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

You know, the men's team had not done that in, you know, years and years and years and where it should have been a time for them thinking of like, you know, what you know, what it was all about them that they took the time to think about, you know, one of their good friends, you know. You know, and throughout the. The whole Olympics with John and Maddie and having their numbers in the. The locker room, it just means so much to our family that they would do that. And then, you know, on top of everything, you know, you're talking spontaneous, like, you know, you win, you know, goes into overtime. It's not like you were winning, you know, by three, four goals. It was, you know, it's down to the. You know, the. The wire and when they won, to just do that and think about, you know, taking John's jersey and for the guys to be looking up in the stands for us, it was just. It's just a. It just tells you what kind of people hockey players really are. They're just, you know, I feel like they're just so, you know, so down to earth. Down to earth and just. Just great people to do something like that, you know, for us, like, we, of course, didn't expect that. And then to see our grandchildren on the ice and. And then have the picture with them on the ice, it was just. It was really, you know, amazing.

[A]

It was. It was remarkable. And it's also. It's a testament to the two amazing boys that you raised. And it's a testament to you, too, and how incredible of parents you are, of mentors you are coaches, you are. You know, you don't get John and Maddie without two amazing people like yourselves and that. That shone through, through them, to the team, to all the fans, to all of the friends. And. Yeah, it's an amazing. It's an amazing thing, the family bond that. That you two created through your boys,

[B]

how much they want to carry them forward.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

Olympic boys. Cole Caufield, you know, so many. So many people making gestures, you know, it's really awesome.

[A]

Yeah. And it's. It's just so special. It's special to be even the smallest part of it and just to see it all. And it takes us back to why we're. We're so thrilled and so impressed with the two of you to be, you know, helping create this amazing moment, this amazing event that we've got coming up that we can continue to try to extend to so many people. So it's. It's just so wonderful. And, you know, to see it keep growing is going to be very fun.

[B]

And the 5K. So for everyone listening, the 5K is just one piece of the Goudreau family Foundation. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So. So Anything you can tell us about the foundation in general? More, more of what you've got going on there Besides just the 5K.

[C]

Well, right now with the 5K, the in person at the park is closed. So now we're at the virtual, where virtual is. As much as I love the park and everything, the virtual is just equally as important to us because there's people running from all over the country and we always ask them, wherever you're running, just please send us a picture, show us what you're doing. We, we would love to see it. We, you know, we, we just want to be involved because obviously we can't be everywhere, but it just makes us so happy. And, you know, we were hoping to get the virtual over a thousand. I think it's up, you know, I'm not sure exactly where it's at now. I know it was, excuse me, 800, 800, I think. But it was just, you know, it just means so much for people that are running in Canada and, you know, of course the U.S. but, you know, in other countries. And as for the foundation, last year, because I work at a school for special needs, we already had a 501C, so we were able to use theirs. And, and we just raised all the money and just gave them all the money. We didn't have to have anything. And so many people came up to the, at the 5K and said, I can't wait for next year. What are you going to do next year? And we were like, oh, wow. We didn't, we didn't really think about that. Like, you know, but, you know, so many people said, you know, it was great, we would love to come back. And we thought, well, you know, this is, you know, it's kind of twofold. It's helping G and I, because when we get out and we're talking to different people at hockey, it's kind of like a little bit of a grief therapy for us because we're hearing all these wonderful stories and we get to talk about, you know, and I think, you know, for grieving parents, the most important thing you want to do is talk about, you know, the people that you've lost and just have everyone realize how special they are, which we really didn't have to do because people were telling us. But so with the foundation, we realized that. Excuse me, with the 5K, we realized that we wouldn't be able to do it this year. We had to do something else. So we had to go into a foundation and the wives had a foundation and we certainly didn't want to, you know, infringe on them or compete with them at all. So we went and had a little bit of counsel, you know, talked to, you know, a couple attorneys, and, you know, like, they said, there's so much good that can be done in the world that you could have a half a dozen foundations and still not cover everything that, you know, John and Maddie probably would have wanted to do. So they encouraged us to do the A foundation. But we went back and we talked to our two daughters, and we went back and thought about, you know, if the wives are doing, you know, what was important to the, you know, their lives and to their husbands. We should go back to when our children were young. So we asked our daughters what. What was the most important thing? What do you remember about, you know, being little with our family and John and Maddie? And they said, well, hockey and dance, of all. Of all things, of course, has to be the two that are. But hockey and dance. And then the boys loved children. They've always loved children. When my oldest daughter had her children, they couldn't wait to come. The first was born. They couldn't wait to come home from hockey. They were like, we want to get to playoffs, but as soon as playoffs are done, we're.

[A]

We're.

[C]

We're home. So they've always had that very strong family connection where all four of my children are best friends. They did everything together. We went on vacation together. Then when they all got married, their husbands and wives, they became, you know, we just. It was just one big happy family, which was great. But we went back to our daughters and they said, you know, hockey, dance, children and pets, animals. The boys both loved animals. They both had golden doodles. So it was just, you know, just them going back to the very, very beginning, what was important to them as children. And that's kind of how we base the foundation on. We did take off the dance because we thought, you know, like, you know, I mean, the boys. The boys were not dancers. Trust me. So we went. We just. We went with hockey, children and pets or animals. So that's kind of, you know, that's what we're going to base this all around.

[A]

I love it. It's so good. It's so perfect.

[B]

Well, listen, we're gonna make. We're gonna put a clip up. Everything's going to be on the episode in our description, the link to sign up for the virtual. But we're going to make a clip. We're going to get it on socials, and we're going to get over a thousand by the end of this weekend. Yeah.

[A]

100 set up and get.

[B]

Everybody's got to be running. Everybody's gonna be running. Great.

[C]

Thank. Yes. That's what. That's what our goal is. Over a thousand for the virtual.

[A]

Trust us, we're gonna make it happen. We're gonna get over 100. We've been talking to Jillian about getting an LA. A virtual walk here. You know, tons of people here excited to do it, but yeah, we're gonna get all the links, everything set up, all these clips going.

[B]

There's ways to donate. And the merch store.

[A]

Dude, the merch store is incredible, by the way.

[B]

Oh, my God. I was cruising through that today. Today I'm gonna buy 10 things off that site. It's. It's amazing. But we're.

[A]

We're gonna push this as it. As it deserves to be.

[B]

Yeah, the logo is incredible. I was fired. I was fired up. Yeah.

[A]

But, I mean, Jane Ghee, we can't thank you enough for popping on and chatting with us. It's. It's truly such a pleasure for us. And, you know, we're gonna let you go. I know you got plenty to do before we cut you loose. Anything about the 5k. Anything going on that you, you know, want to shout out or talk about or make sure people know about?

[C]

We just want to thank everyone for everything they've done for us. Not only the 5K, the 5K K is, of course, a small part of it. It. But just for helping us to keep John and Maddie's legacy going and just to, you know, helping our family feel better. And also any pictures, anyone, if they can send us, tag us in there. Like, we just. Jillian is amazing with keeping everything up to date. And it's just like, at night, that's what I do. Sometimes I'm up for, like, hours just looking at, like, the different pictures and. And the things that, you know, people have done. So, you know, anyone that, you know, does the virtual, please make sure they just send it.

[A]

Perfect.

[B]

Yeah, we are on it. We're going to blow it up.

[A]

This. We'll be snap. We'll get that up on our page as well. So the. The photos are going to be flooding in, and we're going to have a day of it. It's going to be, you know, it's all right. Well, to the both of you, we. Again, we can't thank you enough. We're sending you all of our love and strength, and we're looking forward to this. It's going to be fantastic.

[C]

Thanks, guys.

[B]

Thank you very much, guys.

[E]

We really appreciate it.