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Welcome to the Empty Netters podcast.
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Can you believe what this has become?
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There was a full 48 hours where I felt like I was like, literally Superman.
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Jumbo loves playing Fortnite. So does he.
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Gets on the sticks.
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Did TR show you the sauna cycle or was that all you did?
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No, I invented that. Almost a year now that I haven't taken a body check. That's kind of nice.
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So we are back. We are horned up and we are going deep.
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Finished tonight with some chicken fingers and a few Guinnesses. Ran into you guys.
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And that's where this pod came to life. Ice is ready. And we're back with another episode of the MD NERS podcast, brought to you by BetMGM. We are live. We are here. We are remote.
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We had to abandon the studio due to ATEM issues.
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The atem, the atm. But, hey, we're here. We're rocking, we're remote. We're all in our respective places. You both have empty knitters, hats on. I wish I had mine on. I feel like an absolute schmuck. That I don't.
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Yeah, you're a. I know, I know,
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I know, I know. But listen, we've got a lot to get into. We are rocking with one game. Habs, Canes. We're gonna get into it. But before we have to get into it, cp, we've got some exciting news to talk about.
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As always.
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I love that.
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Got it.
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I got it in. I got it in some.
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Sometimes, Evan, I like to just, like, roll and see if CP Remembers. And he, you know, he's pretty sharp. This guy's pretty sharp.
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Big, big, big, big, big news. Big news.
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Come on.
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Chris Powers and Dan Powers, you're looking at them right now on your screens, I hope. I guess you could be in the car, you could be listening to our voices. But if you're looking at us on YouTube, these two mugs, these two buddies, are your new hosts of Stanley Cup Live. Every game for the finals. NHL. Come on, boys in the building. Stanley Cup Live host. We got guests. We got all kinds of action coming at you from the venue. I think like an hour and a half before the game. Maybe 6:30, 8:00'. Clock, puck drop. 6:30. And then we. Then we cook, then we cook, then we cook, then we cook, then we cook. And then we go into the game. Boom. Stanley Cup Live. New hosts. New bang. How are you? How's your mother?
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How's your mother? Stanley Cup Live. Every single game during the final pre game brought to you by the NHL. Stanley Cup Live will be Hosted by yours truly. And that truly, it's going to be incredible. We're going to have tons of guests, so many different people. Jason Demers will be on there. I always love to shout out JD because that is our boy.
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JD's our boy.
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Familiar with the Stanley.
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He was host last year.
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Yes, sir. And we are going to get so many players. Unbelievable. Members of the media, it's going to be such a good time. So make sure you tune in to Stanley cup live. It's going to be on the YouTube, NHL Network, all the shebang. It's going to be so, so, so fun. So good. Make sure you tune into the games early so you can see us ripping it up, teeing up the games, interviewing people, having a blast. This is what.
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Sticking to some stuff. We're gonna, we're gonna put in extra stuff. Like, yeah, we'll be, we'll be live and in, in the arena being like, hey, last game analysis, next game predictions, guess in real time. But then also we're going to be kicking to stuff like remote spots we've done with other players, with other actors, just stuff. Whole thing, the whole finals. It's going to be incredible. I love everybody at the league. I'm so grateful and so thankful they've asked us to do this. It's going to be an absolute blast. And we're really pumped. We're really, really pumped, man. And, and, and listen, if you think pk, if you think PK has a wardrobe, wait till you see what Dan pulls out. Wait till you see what Dan pulls out first.
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Dan's going to look like Bjork out there with a swan dress or something crazy.
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I don't even, I don't even want to say it right now because it's going to make Chris try to respond in his terrible way. But I am working currently with three of our unbelievable partners to fit me every single game. So we have 14 different fits that I already have set up working with these companies. And it's going to be.
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And Ev, here's the good news. I've already spoken to 14 homeless people in Venice and wait till you see. Wait till you see the derelict campaign. Sorry. Sorry you couldn't book it, Dan. Sorry you didn't book it.
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Darren, leak my balls.
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I was about to say, Chris is like, I have already worked with Teemu for 14 different terrible fits, and it's going to be fantastic.
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I'm sorry you didn't book it, Dan. Darryl, leak my balls. You.
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I know. Well, it's going to be the best Time. We are getting closer and closer here. We got a 30 series on one side, a 21 series on the other to get into this game that we all just watched. You're all ready to hear about it. Ripping and Raven CP talk to everybody about BetMGM before we get into this game.
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All right, we've got game three. Habs, canes and CP. This was huge. This was absolutely monumental. The Canes acknowledged the ghosts.
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Dude, I'm glad our Busters Costumes are at the studio where there's a shitty atem and nothing works because I would put it right back on. I'd put it right back on.
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Biggest disaster of us not being in the studio is that my Ghostbusters costume is there. But here's the thing. We want this to go seven. We've set it from jump street. And I believe firmly that the team that can handle adversity more in this series is Montreal. So right off the bat, all Habs go on. Wow. Wow, wow, wow, wow. Right off the bat, for me, all of the Habs fans listening who are frustrated, who are freaking out, don't freak out. This team can handle adversity. They can battle. No question about it. But this was huge. Huge yinzer for you, Ev. Yeah, huge yins for the Carolina Hurricanes. Winning Game 3 was so big because we said yes, Dan, if it's reiterated.
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No, but. Okay, keep going.
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If it's two, two after four, there's no blood, it's fine. But going into game four down, two one for the Canes was a death sentence. It was an absolute death sentence. For the first time and maybe only time in this series for the Canes, they have a little bit of woosa. Okay, like relax. Here we are. They have that right now. Up to one. The Habs, man, there is no pressure ever in this series. A lot of people are going to say, what the you talking about? They're the better team. They can. I love that energy. But going into all this, that wasn't the case. The Habs are playing with fucking house money, folks. House money. And now they get into. They get to go into game four in the Bell center with a chance to tie it up. Two, two. You're fucking laughing. The only team that is fucking drenched with pressure in this series is Carolina. And we've got back to back ot games. Sure, we'll talk about the shots, we'll talk about all that. But at the end of the day, I think the Habs are so fine. But at the other end of the day, two days, the Canes have taken care of business back to back games, and that is huge.
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Dan, what I will say to you is this. The, the.
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You're right.
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Two, two was the. Was the job, was the mission. I feel like we both said the Canes, if they came out of this, two, two, we're completely fine. I'm just. I just want to give you credit though, because you pointed out to me this morning on our live. And if you're not listening to the lives, go check Them out immediately.
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They.
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The Canes just winning Game three was so big because it didn't put them in the pressure of game four, where now we're down three. One. Now we're gonna get gentleman swept again. And for the first time in the playoffs. In the playoffs, the Montreal Canadiens lost two games in a row. For the first time in the Stanley cup playoffs, this Habs team has been playing with fire. We both thought, and I do think the narrative is that we are always making excuses. We're always saying, the other team choked, not the Habs won. And I hate that narrative because I'm like, the Habs are awesome. This is amazing. They're such a good team. I'm not trying to diminish them at all. Unbelievable. But they've been playing with fire in this. Like, we lose, we win. We lose. We lose. We. You know, they just keep. They. They battle and. And it's a credit to them, the fact that they are like, dude, we are ready to go. We will show up after a loss every time. That is amazing. And that's a credit to Marty, and it's a credit to those players. But they have now lost two in a row for the first time. And the Hab, or excuse me, the Canes now finally get to go. Okay, worst case scenario, we leave Montreal split, and we have home ice and it's okay. And Dan, I will add the Carolina Hurricanes crossing streams. Boston Ghosts have a conference finals series lead for the first time since 2006. How crazy. Since they won the cup, they have a series lead. And that means nothing, by the way. That means absolutely nothing. But they have a series lead. Holy.
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I will say it is crazy because the first two series against Ottawa and then Philly, we talked so much about the playing with their food element, the fact that they were like, we're going to let these. These teams play their way, maybe they'll get a lead, maybe they'll tie it up. They'll do this, they'll do that. But this Carolina. Carolina team felt like they were just kind of being like, okay, you know, like, it was like playing with a child.
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Yeah.
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Playing with a child who's, you know, being a little petulant, being a little ridiculous. And you're, like, letting them tie it up to make them feel good, but you're like, yeah, okay. And like, at the end of the day, you're like. And dunked on. You're dead. It's over. This Montreal team is not a team you can do that against. So they're not doing that Here. But what's interesting is the last two games, regardless of the fact that they've gone OT with the fact that Montreal has had 12 shots on net in back to back games. Did they finish with 12 or did they get up a little bit here?
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Let me tell you. No, Dan, I think it was very low.
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I think it was 12 again, dude. And it's like you.
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You've got 13.
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13. Yeah.
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So 38 to 13.
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Unlucky 13.
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Yes. Evan, yes.
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They needed 14. Like the Hobbit.
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Agree, dude.
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Don't ever say sorry for that. I think my favorite thing about this show and the three of us is that like, we are a sports show and we are the biggest dork losers who have ever lived. And I love that about.
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Absolutely.
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And it's. It's interesting because, like, you look at that stat line and you're kind of like, oh, yeah, they're doing the same. If you were just to look at the numbers, you. You'd kind of be like, yeah, like this is what they did ser round one and round two, but not against this team. So it's a very interesting anomaly where it's like, if you look at the tail of the tape, it's not that different. But if you watch the games, it's so impossibly different. But at the end of the day, if you're Carolina, you want to take the ghosts, you want to take all of the stats, all of the. Oh, well, historically, this happened. That happened. Whatever, whatever. Yeah, you can read into that, you can let that play into your game. If you want to look at the tale of the tape, there's a world where Carolina is being like, whatever, man. We have two wins so far through three games in this series. And they're so similar to round one and round two. And I actually think there's a planet where they take that and use it as very legitimate fuel in this series.
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Okay, I actually wanna. I was gonna save this point for later in the app, but I'll just do it now because that was a nice tee up kind of. I. I think I even said I want both of your takes on this. I even said in the live. This.
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Can I just stop real quick?
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Yep.
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I don't know if I've never noticed this before, but the fact that Evan has a mandolin hanging over his Pittsburgh
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Penguins banner, Dude, I think this every day, Dan. Every day I wake up, this is the first thing I think of before I piss. I wake up and then I think Evelyn hangs a mandolin over his Pittsburgh thing. And then I Think I have to call him Evelyn. No, I said hangs, dude. Or maybe I did, but I think you just called.
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I think you accidentally called him.
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Every morning, my first two thoughts are, hey, bad news.
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I'm announcing right here. I'm transitioning into Evelyn.
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Bad news for you, Evan.
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Bad news for you, doctor. You're now Evelyn.
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Like, my first two thoughts every morning are, one, Evan hangs a mandolin over his Pittsburgh banner. And two, I have to pee. Those are the first two things. I think the second I wake up.
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Do you think I gave them bad luck by covering that? Covering it up?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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You cost them the playoffs also.
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Don't.
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Too late now.
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Evan, is this the instrument you play the most or the least?
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The least. But it. I'll tell you what. You guys want to hear an A24 trailer?
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Can you play something?
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Yeah.
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Oh,
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It's an A24 movie, so. Wow. That was actually.
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It's a little out of tune. It's.
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How much do they pay you? What's your residuals on that?
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Dude, they pay shockingly low the amount of money.
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They.
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They're not a very well equipped company, but they make good art.
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Is your best instrument guitar?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Yes, dude.
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But I played bass and keyboard anyway.
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That's so sick. All right.
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You're such a.
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What? I wanted you both to answer.
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Being that good at that.
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At so many things. It's annoying.
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Annoying, Dude. I just like. I. It. I'm. I. It's.
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Boys, boys, enough.
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How was the grill tonight, Ev? How was the grill tonight, Evan?
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If you don't by the end of next week, have a 20 second guitar riff. Empty Netter's trailer.
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Ooh.
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Soundtrack for.
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On.
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On an acoustic guitar.
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Yeah.
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You're fired.
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We're gonna do. We're. We're gonna do. No, we're gonna do the. The Ghosts. We're gonna do an A24. Get trailer for the ghosts for the guests, dude.
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Yes.
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Also, respect the craft and respect our fans and tune that mandolin.
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I'm sorry. Yeah, it is badly out of tune.
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I don't.
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I have not played it since. I did.
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Since the Flyers. Since the Flyers beat the bank.
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Since the Flyer series. Yeah. I was trying to put a curse on the flyers.
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As a massive Mumford and Sons fans, I find this very insulting.
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Oh, really?
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Okay.
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Yeah. I have not had use for it, but no, I was actually thinking I should make an Empty Netters theme song. Because right now our. Our theme is as a generic, like, stock music song. We should just have our own song.
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Bam.
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Did you guys hear did you guys hear the jelly roll? Did you guys hear the jelly roll? NHL playoff theme.
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I no, but I read the comments on the video and I was like,
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you don't like it? And listen, we are not, we are not going to say anything bad about.
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No, we love, we love the league. We love the league and all the decisions.
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But I will say this insane to it to release the playoff theme like now. What is happening in April, dude? Like, can I get a playoff?
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Chris, I interrupted you. I have a terrible habit of that. I'm so sorry. Continue.
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All right. No apology necessary. Because.
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Sorry.
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Apology not accepted because it wasn't necessary in the first place.
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He's frozen.
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No, I think he's frozen. He always does this. What I want your guys take on is this after game two, I said on the live. I kind of felt like the Habs were going, dude, we are. We feel great because we, we won game one. And whatever you want to say about the Canes figured it out after the first period, whatever. But we won game one when the Canes had lost once. All playoffs or no, none. Never. They hadn't lost yet. We beat them for the first time. The ABs had lost once. I confused, I confused that the Canes were double sweep. We beat them for the first time and then we lost game two, but it was overtime on the road. And yeah, we only shot eight times or whatever, but like, we do that sometimes and we are so fine. That was my mentality. If I was the Habs out of, out of game two. I want both your response to this, but my mentality after game three is you actually do have an issue now because you are, you can't shoot like, legitimately. I'm like, oh, dude, what are you, what is going on? And I, and obviously there's no doubt in that room. I'm just telling you deep down in places they don't like to talk about at parties, they are now going, yo, this was not good. Please, please, Opine, both of you.
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I have a thought. But Dan, you go first.
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Okay, if I'm going first, I think it's not a great look that this happened in the Bell Center. I, I, so I do agree with you, Chris. I, I think after game one, obviously they got away with one in game seven against Tampa where they had nine, nine shots.
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Yeah.
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And they win that game. And that felt like an anomaly. It was kind of. Because that wasn't really happening all series long. I mean, this, this Habs team is so special. I'm so impossibly enamored with this group, these fans, that city. And I'm like, I, I just love it. And I felt like that, I was like, that was a weird game, but they're kind of scrappy. They'll figure it out. And game two, we knew that Carolina was going to go. There are so many things, ghosts and all that are going to make us come out so fucking desperate that that's what it is. And, and blocked shots are a part of that. A stifling forecheck, a stifling neutral zone press is going to be a part of that. So the lack of shots in game two, I wasn't totally blown away by the fact that it went to OT with that few shots. I was like, that's a huge sign of positivity for the Habs. But now we're in the Bell center on a, you know, a U.S. holiday. So like everyone in Carolina is hanging around, barbecuing, chilling. They're so ready for this game. This was a big game. Like everyone was psyched to watch this game. The fact that you came out in Montreal and you had 12, 13 shots on net, I was, I was like, are you joking me? So now I'm more pointing it towards a, this is a sign of positivity for Carolina and that you, you have figured out a way to really frustrate them as far as shots on net. But two games in a row now we've gone to OT when this team has managed less than 15 shots in a few game. That is also a problem. So it's almost.
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Are you saying, are you still putting that on Habs positive spin zone because you're like, you're an OT with barely
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shooting or I don't think I'm gonna spins on this. I think I'm looking at this as like a, hey Habs, wake up. And then also, hey, Canes, wake up, Dick. I think this is a double situation.
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Wow. Double. Interesting. Okay, what do you think?
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Okay, the, the optimist in me, if I'm a Montreal Canadian, which you now are. Sure. I mean, I, I would say that I, I, I like them. The positive side of me says, look, the past two games we lost in OT could have won these games and we hung in there without shooting as much as a normal team with any fucking right mind would want to shoot in a playoff game.
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Correct.
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Come on. So yeah, you're still in it and you're only down 2:1. And you have one more game to go in your home barn, which you're going to be pumped up by that crowd the pessimist in me, which, let's be honest, takes over more than the optimist says you might. You might have only had your one shot in this series by winning game. Like, you might have only won game one because you caught the Cane sleeping. Like you won game one in the first period. And I think it's mostly because the Canes had so much rest and you fucking punched them in the mouth when they were half awake. And you lose game two and OT didn't get a lot of shots, and then you come out in game three and you're flat. Like, first you lost. I think you lost this game in the first period because the first period you were flat. You got run over a lot, I think. Did you see that hit where Caulfield just got run over?
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Yes, yes.
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And. And all these like east west passes, like, you know that. I think that's why they're not shooting is like, they, they're young, they like to be fancy, they're fast, and when it works, it's great. But all this east west shit doesn't get you a lot of shots on goal when it gets broken up by the Canes. Great defense. And there, I think there was one play where Suzuki tried like, it was a two on one and Suzuki tried like a. Like a spin around pass that just went nowhere. And I'm like, that's where you shoot. You shoot there. You could have. You could have scored. So as much as Montreal fans like to see a great goal, they just want to see a goal.
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So. Yeah, well said, dude. Extremely well said.
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Yeah. So to me, the pessimist is like, right now this is real important. You gotta. Now, now game four, you have to win because if you lose both of your home games, I, I just don't. I think you give the Canes all the power and they say, we're back. We have no ghosts whatsoever. We have efficiently swept out the ghost completely. And we're gonna fucking take this to the sand like a final.
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Especially, dude, because they go, we only really lost first period of that first game. Right when we were rusty.
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Right?
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Like we were rusty.
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Yeah. They can look back on that and say, that's the only weak point we have.
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Like, they're basically like, we should. If they win game four, if the games win game four, they're basically going, we should have swept you, essentially, because we just lost the first period.
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Well, yeah, I know, I. But trust me, this is the pessimistic view that I'm. That I'm putting on. But you speak your Piece.
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Well, Evan, I fucking love everything you just said and I'm going to respond to all of that. The one thing I will say based on what was just said is, and I'm curious what you both think about this. I think if Carolina were to go up 3:1 in this series, Montreal can come back. If Montreal went up 31 in this series, it's over. I think there's a huge difference with it.
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I think that's the mental. That's the mental, though, not the team skill stuff.
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Yes.
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Which is, which is, of course mat matters.
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Yeah, but that, but that is huge. But. And that. That doesn't mean that if Carolina goes up three one, that, that I'm like, oh, you're in trouble. I'm like, no, great job. I think what's interesting, Ev, you just, to me, you just went on a preach fest. Everything you said was true. What's, what's fascinating to me is that game seven against Tampa, they have nine fucking shots and they win. I think a lot of people went, weird game. Montreal was the better team in that series. I think I'm one of them. I feel that way. And I, I love this Montreal team.
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And you think that against Buffalo too, right? I remember you saying you were like, full scope. I think Montreal was better than Buffalo. Yeah. I think Buffalo should have won game seven once we were there once. Once they were hammering the Habs in the third period. Yes, agreed. Montreal, or at least for me, Montreal was better than Buffalo that full series.
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For me, Buffalo in game seven was the better team. But overall in that series, I think Montreal was the better team. And I'm happy that Montreal is here. However, regardless of ot, I think there's an argument to be made based on everything that Ev just said. You have back to back games now where you have 12 and 13 shots. They went to OT Shore. Carolina wins. And I, and I would say very plainly, Carolina was the better team in overtime in the back to back games here.
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And
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I wonder if Habs fans look at these last two games and they go, yeah, we didn't deserve to win those games. That's how I would feel if I were, if I were a Montreal Canadiens fan, I would be looking at these two games and I'd be going, yeah, listen, they were great games. But if I like gun to my head, should we have won that game? I would say no. Like you, you had 12 shots. You had 13 shots. And in game two especially, we talked about, it's like crazy tip goal, garbage goal sitting in the crease. That gets Stuffed in. It goes to OT and Caroline Carolina fist you for all of ot and then went like. I'm kind of like, ouch.
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Yeah, it's not pleasant.
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Yeah, Like, Carolina won that game. And here you are, you're in the Bell center, and you managed 13 shots in this game. You didn't deserve to win that game. So I wonder. Spin Zone world, per. What Evan was just saying is like, yeah, there. It's a. It's weird to win in OT when. What the fuck was that? 38 to 13 shots. Like, yeah, that does not feel like a game that should have gone to ot, but in the Spin Zone factory. Is Carolina going. I mean, OT or whatever. How many times in the last three years, five years, six years, seven years, when we've lost in the Eastern Conference finals that year where Rod was like, that wasn't a sweep because they had multiple OT losses. Are we now in a situation, the Eastern Conference final where they have two OT wins and they're like, yeah, dude, it's breaking our way. And we beat the fucking wheels off them. I think that's an interesting spin zone.
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Okay, I have a couple things to
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Quickly.
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You know, you just don't want to be sitting there in a wet bathing suit. Listen, it lets you go from crushing cannonballs to dry, cold ones in no time because the trunks dry quickly. And that is literally all that matters. So I'm trying to tell you, get in on these chubbies right now. It's a better fit. There's extra pockets. They have the worn and feel. It's amazing. Okay, so whether you're getting dressed for your workday, a workout, or a summer vacation, Chubby's has you covered for a limited time. Chubby's is giving our viewers 20% off your order with our Code Netters. That's N, E T T E R s@chubby shorts.com. that's Code Netters. Chubby Shorts.com, support our show and tell them we sent you. Don't blend in with the crowd. Stand out with chubbies.
A
Guys, I gotta tell you something really funny. I just actually. I just accidentally ate mushrooms.
B
Oh, hell, yes.
C
Like magic.
B
And then. Leave this in. Leave this in.
A
Yeah, no, you can. I got a little baggie here. Keep it on my desk here at home.
B
It looks like a Swedish pick and mix.
A
Yeah, because you know why, Chris?
B
Because you're. Because it is.
A
It is half of that.
B
Yeah, no, I saw it. I almost ate some the other day. I'm so glad I didn't eat mushrooms.
A
I didn't. It just. At first glance, it just looks like a bunch of Swedish, like, watermelon candies. But there are, in fact, mushrooms in there, and I totally just ate one. And you're dead, dude.
B
It's midnight. Like, you're gonna be up till five.
C
Yeah. Wait, well, he might sleep like a baby. How many did you take? Just one.
A
Just took one. I might be fine.
B
You'll be all right.
C
Yeah.
A
Don't switch.
C
That weird dream you're gonna have. You're gonna be up for jury duty tomorrow.
B
Yeah. You're dead.
A
I got Randy here. We're gonna lie in bed. We're gonna pop on Paddington, too, and we're gonna.
C
Randy still watching Paddington? Paddington 2?
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Yeah, it's like the fifth, Evan. We've been watching it all week.
A
Randy's favorite movie.
B
I've actually seen Paddington two, like, four times at Dan's house this weekend.
A
Literally, it's Randy's favorite movie. You guys are being so.
B
This is what I was gonna say. I have a couple things to say.
C
What?
B
What? Mushroom head.
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Oh, my God, dude. Now we're shaming. Now we're shamed.
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You. You have a drug problem.
C
You hippie.
A
You're a drug addict. I have a quick aside.
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Okay.
C
Yeah.
A
Can I slide to the left?
B
Nope.
A
And shit.
B
You're off camera now. Oh, oh, oh.
C
Do you want to show. You want to show Roku City.
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Oh, yes.
A
Evan, you're familiar with Roku City?
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Yeah.
C
Oh, yeah.
B
This is some. Gonna be some.
A
No, no, no, no, no. Chris, I've been meaning to bring this up on the show for years.
B
Roku City changes, like, every few months, so surely. Surely you have not been trying to bring this up for years because there's a different Roku City than years ago than there is now.
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I have.
B
Well, that's impossible.
A
You're familiar with Roku City?
C
How? I just want to know how the shrooms hit so quickly. You're gonna stare at Roku City for 15 hours?
A
No. Stop. Okay, guys, this has been a issue for me for years.
C
Huh?
A
Roku City is so fun. It's like, if you're ever just, like, chilling and Roku City is on, you don't have to be in mushrooms. It's fine if Roku City's just chilling back here. It's a blast. There are so many fun Easter eggs in Roku City.
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That's the point.
A
One of the Easter eggs is the Ninja Turtles.
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I actually know another Easter egg. I think maybe I know where you're
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headed, but we'll see if you look closely. Only three of the four Ninja Turtles show themselves. I have spent guys days looking at Roku's. I promise you. Only three Ninja Turtles reveal themselves. The fourth is nowhere to be found. It drives me mental, and I need ev. I need you to make this clip because I need the world to. To help me. It is. It's unbelievable. I have. I am. I'm telling you, the hours I have invested into Roku City trying to find the fourth Ninja Turtle. He's not there. And it's meant. I think they're with us. I think.
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Would you like to hear something?
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Don't you tell me that you just Googled it, Dan.
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Yeah.
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All four Ninja Turtles are now included as Easter eggs in Roku City. Screensaver. Viewers historically drove themselves crazy searching because only three turtles initially appeared in the city. The creators later added the elusive fourth brother to the scrolling skyline, which was due to backlash.
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Oh, it doesn't say Raph Raphael. He's always the angry one.
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Two are on the roof of a building peering out. One is peeking out from behind a window or a pink lit area. The fourth turtle can be found further back in the distance, often seen relaxing on a boat or at a shipping dock.
C
Getting a blowjob.
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Getting blown by.
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Chris. Chris. Chris. Chris.
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We.
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The clip that was guaranteed to do 2 million views in one hour, and you just blew it.
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No, Evan will cut it. Dan, he will cut it and then it will. It'll do whatever.
C
Don't you tell me what to call Dan.
B
I actually think me breaking the news that the fourth turtle is there will do 2 million views.
A
We're going to get Demon.
C
We got to find it. Yeah. Dan, it's okay to do the entire episode looking that way if you want.
B
Yeah, don't change a thing.
A
All right, Chris, you were in the middle of a point. Let's get back on track and let's finish up this wrap up of this game.
B
I was in the middle of 10 points. Here's number one. The canes. The Canes. Dan, you had said Rod was like, that's not a sweep. You'll recall in that series they lost a lot of OT games, which is part of the reason he was saying that the canes this year, 50 in overtime. How many times have we said on this very show the NHL playoffs are a coin flip. You got to win a few coin flips, right? These OT games, dude, bro. What happened at the beginning of this game, even with all the Dan of Montreal not playing well, they had a breakaway and then a crossbar in like the first minute.
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That's Nick Suzuki could have end this, ended this game immediately.
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That's how the cookie crumbles sometimes, right? Like the Cane. If the Habs just score on that, we all go, oh, my God. The Habs had 12 shots and they won on the first shot of overtime. Blah, blah, you know what I mean? Like just bang. But the Canes have lost so many coin flips in a row, it's easy to make fun of them. I have done it many times. Yeah, tonight they won a coin flip. Last night or last two nights ago, they won a coin flip because that's what OT is. Don't get it twisted. OT is a coin. Yeah, they won two, especially in a row. Yep. Now they're up 2:1 looking pretty. That is awesome. But don't lose sight of that. Evan, I wanted to say this to you. You were talking about shots because I just wanted to give you this. This pov. The we said then the live this morning. You have to have a good period on the road against the Habs in the Bell Center. You have to the Canes out shoot the Habs 15 to 5 in the first period and have a 21 lead. They went up one nothing, which is important. They ended up giving up a goal. But then Taylor hall beast got a late goal.
C
Yeah.
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2 1:55. Greasy goal, dude. Because he almost missed it. Remember, like he kind of like, couldn't.
C
He was like.
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I was like, dude, holy. The nets.
C
Yeah. He was like a hungry dog on that thing.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. It looked like a hungry hippos. He was like, Jesus Christ. 15 to 5. Shots, 2, 1. Lead. 10, 6. Kane's shots in the second, but they get scored on. Power play. Goal Lane. Hudson jumping up in the rush, doing everything good that lane does. Two, two. And you're like, oh, me? If you're the Canes, but whatever. But 10, six. You still feel you're playing well, dude. And if you're the Habs, you're going, wow. Two, two. Amazing. Let's. Let's go, boys. We're at home. This is it. Third period. Shots, seven to one, Canes. Overtime. Six to one Canes. The Cabs had two shots total in the entire third period in overtime. Right? And I'm like, what, dude? Like, that is just like of all the Habs, like, oh, yeah, we're doing our thing. Whatever that. I almost think you should be like, pretend it's a video game. Just cross the blue line and shoot it. Cross the blue line and shoot it. Because this is not a sustainable way to play hockey. And then think you're gonna survive.
C
Yeah, it just. It feels like when they win these games where they. They're like, oh, well, we're just like blessed with some magic that when we shoot, it goes in, even though we're not getting a high percentage of shots. But it's like, I feel like that's going to catch up to you. And maybe it's like, I mean, what. How many games are they on now? 14, 50, 17? This is the 17th game they've played. Like, are they starting to get a little tired maybe?
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I think it's a great point, Ev. Like, it's. I mean, you know, everyone gets tired in the playoffs, especially when you get to the conference final. This is a team. To your point, though, that hasn't been this deep in years and they're super young. And yeah, you're playing a team that has historically had issues in this round and has failed to get over the hump. But all of these factors are real.
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Can I say something on that point, Dan? Unless you're about to. Our boy Dennis, who. Who the. Our Raleigh buddy. Our resident Canes fan, who I love. And I'm always shouting out on this. He texted me something that I. I was like, wow, what a cool take you. But you two both know I am such an anti rest guy. I'm always like, dude, it's It's a real thing these guys are getting. Dennis had been texting me before the series started that it wouldn't really bother them. I felt like. I personally felt like it did bother them big time in game one. I think most people, anyone.
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Anyone who disagrees with that is a alien.
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Yep. And he didn't say. He didn't. Just like, you know, I was hammering that. He texted me today. It's these OT games where the long layoff is benefiting the Canes. And I was like, oh, good take, actually. Because it's like the, you know, the long games. And you're like, we haven't played that much. The Habs have played two seven gamers, and the Canes have played eight games total. And I was like, oh, good take. And he goes. The third period in overtime, the Canes have looked better, which is a fact. I'm not saying it's because of the. The layoff, but that is a fact. So he's using that data point. And then he hit me with this, which I didn't realize. How long was this overtime, boys? Like 12 minutes, something like that?
C
Yeah, it was almost, maybe longer.
B
15 minutes. 15 minutes.
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Yeah, it's longer. Yeah, it was very close.
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Montreal iced the puck seven times in overtime. And I was like, damn, good pull. Good stat pull, dude. Because I do think, and if you don't want to give it to the rest, so be it. But I will say 100. That is a tired leg stat. Seven icings in overtime. And I'm like, poof. Okay, it is.
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But at the same time, you've got. Listen, I stand by what I said earlier, where if Montreal goes up 3 1, they can't now, but if they had gone up 3 1, the series was over. If the Canes go up 3 1, they feel great, but the series is not over. And that's for a number of reasons. Maybe the biggest one, they have yet to been able to put this team away.
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Very valid, Dan. Very valid.
A
You've got back to back games here. One on home ice, one and away ice where you have held this. You kicked the shit out of them under 15 shots. You were beating the fucking bag off this team. And you're going to OT both games. That. That is not sustainable. You're playing great. And. And this is not me disparaging the Canes. You. You, like anyone in hockey, knows that I'm one of the most pro Canes guys that exists. You just can't keep doing this, dude. You're not going to win four games like this. That is a promise. I promise you, Canes, you will not.
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They could.
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They could. But I promise you, you will not. That.
C
That is.
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And. And I. And I will eat crow. I. I. I've put a clown nose on this show. I will literally eat crow. I will kill a crow. No, I won't. I will kill an animal. I will find. I will find this.
C
I find a dead crow.
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I back.
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I go to. I already said, now you have to eat it.
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I will go to Chinatown, and I will find crow being sold, and I will eat it. My point being, I do not believe that you can beat this team four times like this. So you gotta find a way to put them away. You gotta find a. A way to bury them.
C
Well, I was gonna say on that same measure, like, I would love to see what a game looks like when Montreal outshoots the Canes.
B
Such. So true, dude.
C
Like, what. Like, what would happen Exactly.
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Evan, what does that game look like?
C
What does that look like? What does it look like? Where do bash? Like, doesn't save their ass? Like, it's like, through much of the
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game, this game was 38 shots to 13. What does this game look like if it's 38 to 38? Seven to two, because, Dan, I'll add.
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And again, I hate being like, oh, my God, Freddy's save percentage is bad because the Habs only shoot twice and they score both times. It's like, you know, it's kind of skewing the whole thing. But I will add, we were both sitting there. Dan, I don't know what you thought, but that first Matheson goal, like, he's. It's. It's above the circle wrist shot, and it's a. It's a great shot. It's. It's not bar down, but it's a good nip. But there is literally no one there.
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Cpu, that was a good call by you. Like, we. We watched that goal, and you were like, he wants that back.
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Freddy's, like, standing there. Like, the back view is like, Freddy standing like this, and there's just a dude right in front of him above the circle. He just shoots it. He's like, whoops.
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And, hey, I want to coin this, because I did. I did come.
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Oh, yeah.
A
This was sick on the spot. But, like, you called it, man. Like, you looked at that goal, and you're like, he wants that back. And I was like, dude, that went bar down. And we looked at it, and it does, like, kind of go bar down.
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No, it doesn't. But. But you're not quite.
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Yeah, but I go. I was like, dude, that's a nip. It's not a rip. And I think that that's a.
B
That. I thought you said not a snip. But maybe. Maybe you didn't say.
A
No, no, I said. I said it's a nip, not a rip.
B
Yeah, you're right. It wasn't shot that hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
A
Because, like, listen, if you nip it, that means it's a You. You put it.
B
Yep.
A
You put it in a corner. And that was placed very well. If that wasn't bar down, it's about as close as it gets.
B
But it wasn't a rip.
A
Like, he.
C
Was he getting screened on that too?
A
Dude, no, no, Evan, that was the same screenshot. Not at all. And that's why. That's why I think Freddie might want it back. Because, like, listen, it was nipped. It was placed really well. But he gets that puck at the point. He's walking down Broadway. No screen, not a quick shot. Like, he has it. He holsters it, he lets it go. And Matheson has a good shot. He's got a good wrister. He's got a good snapper on him. But he lets that puck go. It's like kind of wobbling. It's not ripped that hard. Again, not a rip. It was a nip, not a rip. And I think with no screen and a lot of time Agoalie wants that. And that was a good point. Chris, you are like leaning into your computer. You look.
C
Yeah. Chris, could you get a little closer to the lens?
B
Can I help you?
A
Do a favor and get your pores closer to the screen, you idiot.
B
Dude, where do you see this?
C
He's looking. He's looking for something. You're sending a screenshot. Okay, vamp. Let's vamp. You want to play mandolin more?
A
Yeah, do it.
B
I just keep going.
A
Actually, that is the most out of tune thing. And it pisses me off that I can tell that you're so good at playing that as well, you fucking twat. And it's just so.
C
Look at the tan line. Look at the tan lines. It's like when you. So it's like when a bikinis is slightly off. You know, you can see that.
B
God, that's erotic.
C
But I had to pull this back, so it was intonated.
B
I just texted you tuning. I screenshot of this highlight. Look.
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
Look at that. Like, there is no one. Like, it is as if the two of them are in an open skate practice.
C
Like, dude, it's Me, it's stick time with my buddy.
B
Like, that has to be one of the great shots ever to beat you if you are. Yeah.
A
They're like, what the.
B
Okay, so I didn't love that.
A
What are your closing thoughts on this game? And then I have one more thing
B
I really want to talk about. And then one more ridiculous sign off the. I just want to talk about the waved off goal.
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What's offside?
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Dan believes it's offside by him.
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I have absolutely no time.
B
People. Dan, People don't think it's off. People don't think it's.
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I have. Who.
C
Oh, it was. It was offside. It was.
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Thank you, Evan. I have.
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And that's a Habs speaking. That's a Habs fan talking.
C
But it was. Yeah, I mean, it was offside. It's. It's. You know, I. What. What did you. Why would it not be offside?
B
It's all serious. It's off. Yeah.
C
You don't talk about it.
A
No time to spend on this. It's offside. And if. I'm so sorry. Like, it's just like, this is crazy.
C
Here's the sad fact. If Cole. If Cole Coffield was just a little bit taller, it would have.
B
His leg would be longer. You're right.
C
His leg will be longer. Dude, I'm sorry. This is like. Look, I'm. I'm kind of a short guy. Like, I'm not that sure.
B
Hey, Ev.
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Disavow.
C
Dan is disavowing this. I'm cutting all this.
A
Let you speak about my man Cole like this.
C
Yeah, we love Cole also, but can we say great assist to the Lane Hudson goal? I mean, that first shot. First goal was.
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We did say this morning. It's. We. We said this morning, Memorial Day. Our two sweet, sweet Americans on this team would be on the score. Score sheet. Goal. We had two cold assists. Beautiful stuff.
B
Yeah.
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Yeah. All.
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All I'll say about the troops.
C
They did it for the boys.
B
They sure did. All I'll say about that, surely offside goal is at this point in the playoffs, you take any piece of motivation you can get. And I've said to you guys before, I love when I kind of get robbed because I'm like. It makes me more fired up for the next game. I'm not saying they think it was a bad call. They don't. But the Habs are saying. We were right there. Like, we all. Like, if that goes in, they probably win that game.
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And they go.
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There they go.
C
We were.
B
We were 2 inches away. A 2 inch call away from like winning that game.
A
I'll. I'll take right there. But if any fans try to go like, well, we got robbed of one, I actually think that backfires on you because you're grasping it.
B
There are some fans doing that and they are dumb.
A
Yeah.
B
Here's. Here's the last thing I had for you guys and I don't. Dan, we. I don't know how long you watch the game ev. Post it ending like if you, if you watched like the post game. We did not.
C
No, because I'm on tnt, hbo. And as soon as it's over, it's just like, piss off. Goodbye. Like nothing for you.
A
I did immediately goes like this.
B
Bum, bum.
A
The criminal justice system is.
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm watching White Lotus Season 2 or something.
B
I did not see the three stars of the game ceremony, so I cannot confirm this is true or not. But yeah. NHL.com every time you click on the game summary it says here are the three stars of the game. Yeah, can I. Does anyone know who the three stars of this game are? Don't look if you don't know.
C
Oh, okay. I was about to look.
B
I'm about to tell you. Dan, do you know?
C
No, I don't know.
B
Okay, I'm going to give them to you. All right. Ready?
C
Yeah.
B
The number three star, Taylor hall. One goal, zero assists, one point. Great game. Took the lead for the Canes. The number two star, Matheson. One goal, zero assists, one point. Great goal. Tied the game. Kind of crazy because you would have done what?
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I just. I mean, go on.
B
I'm taking guesses for the number one star. Don't overthink it. If you don't have a guess, it's fine. But if you have a bash, knee jerk guess, give it to me. I have one. Dobesh. Evan.
C
I. I would have said Dobesh maybe. No, couldn't be Hudson or Fetch.
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Like, I mean, OT winner.
B
So I would have. I would have said Svetch. And I might have said Dobash. In the loss, the number one star, Sebastian Ajo. Zero goals, zero assist, zero points.
C
What about the intangibles? What were the intangibles?
B
What? Dude, I don't know if it's true. I wasn't watching long enough. That might be. It's like a typo on NHL.com, but I'm just saying.
C
No, it's on ESPN too. It's. It's a ho, right?
A
I've eaten way too many mushrooms in this conversation.
B
Dan, you said before the game. You go a whole better figure it out quickly. Hey, he did. Apparently he did. He did literally nothing and then gets the number one star tonight.
C
No, he.
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I thought he played well.
B
He had a good. I mean, I have an idea. Dude. Spectacoff won the game. Yeah.
C
Okay.
B
That should all zero goals.
C
He was all over the ice.
A
He was all over the ice and he was everywhere. He was. Everybody.
B
Let me check his box. Let me check his plus minus real quick. Hold on, dude. That is the craziest thing ever. Plus one.
A
Okay, where, where to close this out? Where do you guys feel this series goes? Like, are you, are you comfy? If your canes.
B
No, no. You can't score. You are winning in overtime. And the Habs are good. Like literally you have two wins in the series. Both are in overtime. And the Habs have a combined 20 shots. Yeah.
C
No, you don't feel good to me. This is one of those games. It's like it, this is a bridge game to like an important game for. I think.
A
Yeah.
C
Game four is going to reveal a lot more. It's one of those cliches. Right. But I truly feel like it's. I, I. This could literally go anywhere at this point. Just because the Habs are so resilient.
A
Yeah.
C
And the Canes are so dominant. It's like, it's like who's, who's going to meet their true form first is how I feel.
B
Yeah.
C
And I don't know that we're gonna know that until the next game. That's how I feel.
A
I. The beginning of this series, Doc, like, this is a nightmare series for the Canes in that or not a nightmare series, but a battle series for the Canes in that no matter what happens after every game, it's just like next test. This, this was a huge win for the Canes and they should be so thrilled.
B
It was.
A
But everyone knows that if in the Bell center on a Wednesday night, Montreal comes out and pumps you, all the pressure in the world is on Carolina again.
B
But you'll take that, right? You'll take the best of three at home with two at home. You'll take that.
A
Sure, sure. But you're telling me that if you get pounded by this Montreal team, you're like, we'll take that. We're going like, no, like you're.
B
But dude, Dan, honestly, bro, I dead ass think that the, the Canes are. Are the fact that they've even won two games in this series and obviously the favorite. But just I'm telling you, mentally I
A
think they're like, we're good.
B
We're like, now we're in dogs.
C
Yeah, they're. They're past that beginning part.
B
Yeah, exactly. They're like, jesus Christ. At least it's a serious joke.
A
We want to joke as much as we have after that first game, but they're like, we won two in a row. We've made them lose two times in a row for the first time in playoffs. So, yeah, the Canes are like, dude,
B
they're like, we did our job. Yep.
A
But, yeah, I, I, I, I, I think the Canes have, have answered the bell in a big way. But at the end of the day, Montreal still has the house money vibe, and I think they need to use that in the next game.
C
Yeah. And they've got to come out in game four, first period, super pumped in charge because they were just a little hesitant and a little flat.
B
Yes. Totally. Use your crowd. You have the best crowd in the league. You have the best ring. Yeah, they haven't used it.
C
It.
B
They didn't even use it against Buffalo, dude. 100%.
A
All right, folks. Huge, huge game for the Canes. Montreal still right there in it. We've got tonight the possible end of the Colorado Avalanche in game four. Vegas Golden Knights. Colorado Avalanche. Cannot wait to get into it. I am going to melt backwards into Roku City here.
C
I hope you're going to be in. You're going to be in Roku City tonight.
B
He's the fourth turtle, Ev. He's the fourth turtle.
A
I wish so badly that I was adept enough with graphics. I could literally go like this and just lean backwards and all of a sudden I'm in Roku City with a nice band around my eyes. And I am the fourth turtle. But I don't have those abilities. What I do have is the ability to sign off this show. Follow us on everything, folks. Make sure you're tuning in, following in all the action. We will see you again tomorrow. Your boy's gonna be at jury duty tomorrow. Tomorrow.
B
Tough.
A
I'll see you there and I'll see you on another time. Yeah, I will. Dude, I'm going to post. I did it last time. I'm going to post.
C
We're going to stream live. We're going to be streaming from jury duty.
A
No, actually, maybe that'll get me dismissed.
B
O good. Go.
C
We could bring you Riverside. We'll Riverside you in and they'll be
A
like this, sir, you are. You can't in jail next. You know, it's my trial. Beautiful stuff. Great job. Folks. Hope you had an amazing Memorial Day. We will see you next episode. And until then, CP skate hard.
Date: May 26, 2026
Hosts: Chris Powers (CP), Dan Powers, Evan
Main Focus:
Montreal Canadiens lose two consecutive games for the first time in the 2026 playoffs, as the Carolina Hurricanes take a 2-1 series lead in the Eastern Conference Final. Lively, irreverent hockey banter, sharp analysis, and classic Empty Netters chemistry.
Huge news: Chris and Dan take over as hosts of Stanley Cup Live for the finals, bringing their unique banter and guest lineup.
Quote [01:39]:
Chris: “These two mugs, these two buddies, are your new hosts of Stanley Cup Live. Every game for the finals. NHL. Come on, boys in the building!”
Wardrobe competition: Dan is getting bespoke fits from three apparel partners (“I have 14 different fits that I already have set up…” [04:02]); Chris joking that his are sourced from “homeless people in Venice.”
Carolina finally breaks through with a 2-1 series lead against Montreal, who, for the first time in these playoffs, look shaky after consecutive overtime losses and shockingly low shot totals. The crew debates whether the Habs' scrappy, resilient style can survive or if Carolina’s “conference final ghosts” are truly exorcized. Signature bits, musical interludes, and a surprise edible make this an episode only Empty Netters could deliver. Game 4 looms as the true series turning point.