The Penguins Smell Blood In The Water

Summary

Empty Netters Podcast – "The Penguins Smell Blood In The Water"

Date: April 28, 2026
Hosts: Dan & Chris (Almost Friday Media)

Overview

In this lively playoff episode of the Empty Netters Podcast, brothers Dan and Chris blend humor, sharp analysis, and true “player-to-beer-leaguer” authenticity to break down the NHL playoff landscape as it stands. From a heated Penguins-Flyers series to the chaos in the West, the boys react to the latest games, highlight key storylines, and dissect the mental edge (or lack thereof) impacting teams in the hunt for the Stanley Cup. They bounce between games recaps, player performances, memorable moments, and big-picture playoff narratives, all with the effortless banter that has become their trademark.

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Penguins vs Flyers: Series Momentum & Shithousery

Theme: Pittsburgh seems to have wrestled momentum away from Philly, turning what looked like a controlled Flyers series into a tense, contested affair.

Discussion Points & Analysis

• Comeback Vibes:
  The hosts dig into how playoff hockey reenergizes even the most hungover or physically miserable ("Stanley Cup playoff hockey, dude. It's crazy the juice it provides," – Chris, 00:31).

• Mental Swings & “O-Meter”:
  Both note the shift – Pitt was written off after Game 4 but has charged back, leading to real concern for Flyers fans, especially given Pittsburgh's playoff pedigree.
  “Right away, Pittsburgh, I was like, oh, they actually might be back a little bit.” (Chris, 04:21)

• Flyers Resiliency... Or Pitt’s Unwavering Edge?
  The Flyers continue to answer Pitt leads, but the ability of the Penguins to reassert control each time may be more impressive.
  “Pitt goes up 2-0, Philly ties it, Pitt gets the lead back. So now I’m like, maybe it’s just a great Pitt thing.” (Dan, 05:28)

• Flyers Lineup Drama:
  The hosts react to Matvei Michkov’s healthy scratch – questioning if he’s genuinely underperforming or if something deeper is at play.
  “He’s been brutal... That is a full stop. That’s a very talented guy on your team who produces. So him not in the lineup is only a bad thing.” (Chris, 07:40)

• Goalie Mistakes – Playoff Kryptonite:
  Both are frustrated with ongoing “bad bounce” goals, particularly those involving goaltender puck mishandling.
  “Now here comes theory number three. Now it’s a problem because I can’t be having goals just bouncing in off you from behind the net every game.” (Chris, 09:25)
  “Stay in the fucking net. I’d rather as a defenseman retrieve my own rim jobs...” (Chris, 09:45)

• Crosby’s Calm and Locker Room “Shithousery”:
  Crosby’s reaction to fan taunts and the viral photo of Erik Karlsson in a “50 Years No Cups” Flyers-baiting shirt are seen as key to rallying the team.
  “That is proper shithousery. Like, look at that. That is so funny.” (Dan on Karlsson shirt, 13:30)
  They debate whether shithousery can backfire and wake up the opponent.

• Pressure is Building:
  The Flyers’ lack of playoff experience contrasts with Pittsburgh legends’ coolness under fire. The emotional weight is real:
  “If we lose this game, we are so fucking fucked... Not guaranteed that. Just saying, there’s a lot of pressure.” (Chris, 18:26)

• Goalie switching as a playoff tactic:
  The switch to Shelob (Sheilov) in net, rather than Skinner, seen as a pivotal move for Pitt, mirroring past successful goaltending switches (see: Oilers).

Notable Quotes

• On the mental aspect of playoff leads:
  “The 3-0 lead only leads to weird conversations like this. As soon as you go up 3-0, everybody starts going, ‘Oh, you better close it out. The pressure.’ And I’m like, chill, dude. We’re better. Who cares?” (Chris, 21:23)

• On pressure and team personality:
  “It’s more about the personality of the team to me.” (Zach, 19:20)

• On the impact of switching goalies:
  “The switch to Shelob not only buys you a big game dog goalie... but it also allows you to go back to Skinner and activate multiple shutouts. The fear if you’re Pitt is you waited one game too long.” (Chris, 24:20)

Timestamp Highlights

• Penguins seize momentum: 04:20–05:47
• Michkov scratch + Flyers drama: 07:16–08:25
• Crosby/Karlsson “shithousery” segment: 12:30–14:55

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Vegas vs Utah: Chaos & Comebacks

Theme: Wild swings and dual meltdowns define this back-and-forth series; both teams alternately “puke” away leads.

Key Segments

• Vegas’ “Back From the Dead” Game:
  The hosts track Vegas jumping out to a 3-0 lead, only for Utah to storm back with four straight goals to briefly take the lead ("I could not believe that comeback... I am so fine with this loss." – Chris, 30:51).

• Debate: Good Loss or Gutting Collapse?
  Big argument over whether Utah, after such a comeback and then an OT defeat, should feel okay ("dual puke" scenario). Dan is adamant,
  “You have a lead... and then you give it up and lose in OT on home ice, that is a fumbling of that game.” (Dan, 32:26)

• Parity in the Series:
  Despite wild swings, the hosts declare it an "even series" and highlight the parity of the Pacific.
  “These are two very even teams.” (Dan, 38:17)

• Eichel’s Performance and Mentality:
  He is praised for his possession game but called out for not shooting enough.
  “I've got something to say about Jack. I need you to score.” (Dan, 39:25)

• Goaltending Rotation—Another Theme:
  Carter Hart gets unwavering support from Torts, bucking the trend of other playoff teams “changing horses.”
  “Vegas should have qualified as a team that is coin flip goalie in my... but they're the only team that goes this could have been either one that has refused to do that.” (Chris, 45:24)

Notable Quotes

• On the wild swings:
  “There was mutual puking. Double barrel puking.” (Chris and Dan, 35:05)

• Eichel & Marner:
  “I need one of these guys to just take over... I need you to shoot the puck.” (Dan, 39:25)

Timestamp Highlights

• Vegas-Utah chaos, comeback, and OT loss: 30:51–38:10
• Jack Eichel critical analysis: 38:10–41:31

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Boston vs Buffalo: Surprises, Expectations & Goaltending

Theme: Buffalo’s surprising dominance, Boston’s struggle with the “wild card” label, and the Swayman factor.

Key Points

• Buffalo’s Legitimacy:
  “They won the Atlantic. They were the best team in hockey the second half of the season.” (Dan, 48:54)
  The Sabres are getting respect for their resilience and offensive depth.

• Boston’s Identity Crisis:
  “People are forgetting they have been a wild card team all season long... They just made the playoffs, which is fucking awesome.” (Dan, 49:08)
  Many Boston fans were unrealistically expecting last year’s juggernaut to reappear.

• Goaltending Heroics & Reality Checks:
  Swayman has been the best Bruin but needs more help ("He got hung out to dry... but it's this funny narrative of like fucking Bruins should be winning this series. What are you talking about?” – Dan, 50:45).

• Pasta’s Role:
  He’s a point-per-game playoff performer but needs to find another gear ("You are David Pastrnak. You have to score. We're gonna lose." – Chris, 54:38).

• Buffalo Playing with House Money... but Can’t Blow the Series:
  “I think Buffalo is just riding on vibes right now.” (Dan, 58:23)
  But up 3-1, losing would be a disaster.

Timestamp Highlights

• Boston’s identity and fan reaction: 48:54–51:56
• Pastrnak discussion: 54:12–55:38

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Dallas vs Minnesota: The Playoff Series Gift

Theme: The most balanced and dramatic series—both teams swing from dominance to disaster, and both believe they can win.

Key Segments

• Goaltending Duel:
  Wallstedt’s emergence as a blue-chip starter vs. Otter.
  “This currently to me feels like a ‘which goalie cracks first loses.’” (Chris, 71:04)

• Power Play Misery:
  Minnesota’s power play has struggled mightily but their even-strength play and overall team grit keep them alive.
  “One for 15, and you’re two-two... That is so bad.” (Dan, 65:18)

• Narratives & Stakes:
  Dallas’ repeated postseason heartbreak raises the stakes:
  “If you lose again in round one, you are the Minnesota Leafs.” (Dan, 72:58)

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Edmonton Oilers vs Anaheim Ducks: Drunk Hockey & The Audacity of Youth

Theme: The series is shockingly tilted in Anaheim’s favor, but the Oilers are the only team that can claw back from a 3-1 deficit.

Discussion Points

• Beer League Chaos:
  Oilers games feel like “shinny hockey,” with both teams scoring at will and goaltending optional.
  “We're just watching shinny hockey. It's crazy.” (Dan, 77:08)

• Mentality and Mojo:
  The young Ducks are oblivious to the pressure.
  "Case of audacity of youth. They don't know they're supposed to be worried..." (Jennifer via chat, endorsed by Dan, 79:03)
  "I don't think they know they’re playing the Oilers." (Chris, 79:11)

• Oilers as Comeback Specialists:
  If any team can pull off the reverse sweep, it's Edmonton, thanks to McDavid and offensive firepower.
  "If there is a team in these playoffs that can win three straight games after being down 3:1, it is this Oilers team." (Dan, 75:28)

• Bets and Series Odds:
  Discussion about live betting odds, with Chris and Dan planning to hammer Oilers series comeback bets.

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

• Dan on playoff “theories”:
  “Too many theories. Next thing you know, it’s the theory of everything.” (Dan, 05:59)

• On shithousery effect:
  “Sometimes it does wake up the team... I think there’s a version where the Flyers shithousery has now awoken these guys... now the Penguins stars are scoring and the Flyers are losing.” (Chris, 15:09)

• On the pressure of leads:
  “As soon as you go up 3-0, everybody starts going, ‘Oh, you better close it out. The pressure.’” (Chris, 21:23)

• On goalie room politics:
  “Aiden Hill... believes he should be Team Canada’s goalie, and he’s not even playing on his own fucking team.” (Chris, 46:08)

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Important Timestamps

| Segment | Time | |----------------------------------|--------------| | Pitt seizes series momentum | 04:20–05:47 | | Flyers lineup drama (Michkov) | 07:16–08:25 | | Crosby/Karlsson “No Cups” Shirt | 12:30–14:55 | | Vegas-Utah chaos/comebacks | 30:51–38:10 | | Jack Eichel critique | 38:10–41:31 | | Bruins-Sabres identity crisis | 48:54–51:56 | | Pastrnak playoff scrutiny | 54:12–55:38 | | Goalie mistakes rant | 09:25–11:32 | | Oilers comeback betting | 76:44–78:20 |

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Final Thoughts & Vibes

• Playoff Mentality:
  The episode shines in capturing the anxiety, spin, and emotional roller coaster of playoff hockey, both on the ice and in the minds of fans.
• “Must Watch” Stamp:
  Both Utah-Vegas and Dallas-Minnesota are declared must-watch, unpredictable series.
• Respect for Youthful Teams:
  The hosts marvel at the fearlessness of teams who “don’t know what they don’t know” – whether it’s the Ducks, Flyers, or the new-look Sabres.

“We are so fucking back, dude.” (Chris, 60:41)

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Next Up

• Friday’s livestream
• Anticipated guest appearance
• Daily playoff action with potential eliminations ahead

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Summary prepared for those who want every hilarious, passionate, and insight-laden twist from the Empty Netters playoff table without the fluff.

Transcript

[Dan]

Ice is ready. And we're back with another episode live version of the Empty Nerds podcast, brought to you by BetMGM. CP is alive. Not hungover at all.

[Chris]

I could fucking run a mile today, Dan.

[Dan]

One.

[Chris]

One mile. Can you imagine, dude?

[Dan]

Yeah, I mean, I can imagine running a mile. Like, if you'd set a marathon or something, maybe I would have been a little bit, like. I'm not sure if I could handle that, but a mile. One I could do.

[Chris]

I couldn't have run one yesterday. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is an improvement. This is a win.

[Dan]

Yesterday was tough stuff. Yesterday was tough stuff. But what brought us back to life was Stanley cup layoff hockey, dude.

[Chris]

It's crazy that the juice it provides. I literally intended to never speak to anyone again post live yesterday. Till right now. I thought these people were going to be the first people I saw since I left. But then the call of hockey, all

[Dan]

of a sudden you're back.

[Chris]

It brought me back. Me back.

[Dan]

You know what's really tough for me is I had two separate dentist appointments yesterday that I just missed. Fuck.

[Chris]

I have to. I have one Thursday I have to cancel.

[Dan]

I just, like, slept right through, dude.

[Chris]

Don't let me forget that when we're driving later. I actually literally have to cancel my dentist on Thursday.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Chris]

Forgot about that.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Chris]

Otherwise I'm gonna get charged.

[Dan]

You're. I actually. I called one of the guys. He was a guy dentist that I went to for the first time I was tested out.

[Chris]

Dentists. Dentists, yeah. You went to wall.

[Dan]

He was a lovely man. Lovely, lovely guy, but just not for me. And I called him and I was like, hey, I'm so sorry I missed that appointment. And he goes like, oh, it's okay. I'm gonna have to charge you $50 for a missed appointment fee. And I go, if you can fucking find me, pal. What are you gonna do? Send me a letter? Send me a $50 invoice? Dude, in your bra. I'm paying. Yeah.

[Chris]

Wait, what will happen?

[Dan]

Wong will never see me again. I think he thinks I'm gonna reschedule and come in and he's gonna tack on $50.

[Chris]

So hold on. You have had an appointment appointment with him?

[Dan]

Yeah, he gave me a cleaning and it was.

[Chris]

I'd give it a B.

[Dan]

A B.

[Chris]

Did you use your credit card? Is it on file?

[Dan]

I don't think it's on file. I use Apple Pay.

[Chris]

Interesting. He can't charge me shit, dude, because I actually. This was ridiculous. I've bitched to you about this already. But when I got my hand X rays, they go, hey, you need to see a hand orthopedic to make sure you don't need surgery or a hard cast. I go, no problem. What do I do? And they go, go to your insurance, look up hand orthopedics, call them, set an appointment to just look at your X ray. I go, okay. And then they go, dude, this was, you know, weeks ago, right? They go, yeah, no problem. We can see you in May. And I'm like, well, it would already be destroyed by then. Yeah. If I was healing this incorrectly. So anyway, I had one that I had scheduled for this morning and I forgot because it was so far out. I was like, whatever. And then I got a text that was like, yo, are you coming? Yeah. So I was, I've been calling. I called and I called and I called, I called yesterday, I called today, and they would, no one would answer. And I was like, fuck, dude, they're going to get pissed at me. But then I was like, they don't even know who I am. They've never seen me. They have nothing on file. I literally made the appointment over the phone. You know, sounds like, I think I just a no show. I did call them one more time on the way in. They did pick up and I did cancel, but I'm just saying.

[Dan]

Good man.

[Chris]

I could have vanished.

[Dan]

I, I, I feel bad about no show appointments. I felt bad for my dentist.

[Chris]

Yeah, it sucks.

[Dan]

I was like, I'm sorry, but if you could only see me and how miserable I am, you would understand how

[Chris]

bad my life is.

[Dan]

But it was right after that that these games came on pit. Philly come on first. And it was truly, it was, I, I, I just kind of sat up on the couch and I was like, I, I kind of feel like a human again.

[Chris]

Okay.

[Dan]

And wouldn't you know it, it was right in time for punishment drop.

[Chris]

It's incredible.

[Dan]

It was unbelievable.

[Chris]

I give PIT credit because last episode I was saying stuff like, what other series was it that I must have been talking about? Sabers, maybe even. But I had been, I'd been Talking about the 3.1lead as the home seed and just, you know, like, the breakdown of where, where the pressure shifts in games. And I was saying, oh, oh, maybe it was, maybe it was ducks, whatever. But I was saying, like, the way pressure shifts. And dude, honestly, we didn't, I didn't even bring it up for pit just because I, the way game four went, even with the win, I was like, you don't feel like you. You don't feel like the Flyers are in trouble.

[Dan]

No.

[Chris]

Even going to pit. And after the game, maybe I should have. But right away, right away, Pittsburgh, I was like, oh, they actually might be back in a little bit of ways. I actually feel like, Dan, the Flyers were not that great till Olympics and then had a great push.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Their big push came after Olympics.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

And the Penguins kind of did this a couple times. I was like, oh, Penguins. And I was like, ah, Penguins.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

And I was like, oh, Penguins. And then they were kind of doing that to start the playoffs. They were in all Penguins, and the Flyers were in post Olympics. Flyers. And now I'm worried. I'm not saying it's for sure. I'm just saying I'm worried that we might be. Oh, Penguins and Flyers might be pre Olympics, and then that would be a problem.

[Dan]

Listen, there's a couple of things. In game four, I mentioned how many times Philly kind of battled back after Pitt would take a lead.

[Chris]

Yep.

[Dan]

And I was like that. I love that sign from Philly because it's. While the Penguins are getting hot, they're not totally cooling down. That's going to be a good sign for Philly.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Well. Well, that happened again in this game. Pitt goes up to nothing.

[Chris]

Good point.

[Dan]

Philly ties it to two, and then Pitt gets the lead back. So now I'm starting to flip to the other side again, and I'm being like, well, Pitt, even with Philly battling back, they don't care because they just keep holding on. So now I'm like, well, well, well. Yeah, maybe it actually isn't a great Flyers thing. Maybe it's a great pit thing.

[Chris]

Here's a question.

[Dan]

Did you ever think about that?

[Chris]

No, I haven't even thought about that. That's actually. Even though I have recovered, that is too much for me to think about.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

You know, I can only really think about one theory at a time.

[Dan]

Sure.

[Chris]

I get it. You're throwing a lot of theories at me. Yeah. I'm not sure.

[Dan]

Too many theories. Next thing you know, it's the theory of everything.

[Chris]

Oh, and now we've solved the meaning of the universe.

[Dan]

Yes, we were first.

[Chris]

We were in a blender, but also. First we were in a blender, dude. Now we're. Now we're. What does he say?

[Dan]

Now we're curing cancer, but unfortunately, you also have Lou Gehrig's disease. Now, in this scenario.

[Chris]

Damn. That was Lou Gehrig's disease. Yeah. Why isn't it called Stephen Hawkins?

[Dan]

Because Lou got it first.

[Chris]

Maybe he should take it, though. I'm more important.

[Dan]

Stephen Hawking's disease or Lou Gehrig's disease. I think Lou Gehrig's disease sounds better.

[Chris]

It does, unfortunately. It does, it does. Here's a. Here's a concern I had too also, by the way, shout out Bump. Getting in the lineup, getting a playoff goal, dude, fifth round pick, little, little,

[Dan]

little key bump for the playoffs is always going to get you because, dude, Mitchoff.

[Chris]

So scratch. I was actually. Sometimes I don't know why I care about this, but when I put on ESPN for 30 minutes before the game, I want it to be the, like the pre game shit. Like, I want it to be we're at the rink and we're cutting to people on ice level and all this shit. And ESPN was just running SportsCenter, at least on the West coast was just running SportsCenter up right up until 4. So it was like, anyway, this is Sports Center. And it was like, boom, the game. And I was like, lube me up a little bit, please.

[Dan]

Yeah, I know, I know, I know.

[Chris]

But anyway, they finally cut to the thing and they're like, Mitch cough scratched. And I was like, whoa. And I think Flyers. I think I just saw somebody say, oh, Majest Mishkov. Healthy scratch. I don't know if they're Flyer Flyers fans in the chat that, that wanted that or liked that. I guess I haven't been watching Mitch cough closely enough to have an opinion on if I think he should have been scratched. He's been brutal, but it's just like, dude, that's a. You don't want that because that is a full stop. That is a very talented guy on your team who produces. So him not in the lineup is only a bad thing because can the

[Dan]

chat want that chat? Help us out here. Like, what is. What is happening there? Is Mitch cough just like a fat fuck or is he terrible? What is happening to him? I think because watching the games, he is. He has not been playing well. I can see that with my two eyes. I think playoffs scare him, but I'm not dialed into the inner workings of Philadelphia Flyer hockey. So what are they saying at practice? What are they saying in the local. The local rags? Like, what is his deal?

[Chris]

Like 20 tuck, 51 points, 20 talks. He had the sophomore slump, which pretty much everybody has, so don't even freak about that.

[Dan]

51 points, though.

[Chris]

But 51 points and 20 tucks. Like that's.

[Dan]

I mean, you need that guy. I'm not the Guy you need.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I'm not kicking you out of the line.

[Chris]

I'm like, bro, dude, you got to get in there score a fucking goal. Especially. I know he gets power play time and like the power play has been fucking brutes Magooots. So I don't know where he's at, but that would be. That would be great. Second thing, Dan, the when. When Gabe Landiscog shoots one off the end boards and it hits Forzy and goes in, I go, damn, that sucks. Which it does.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Especially. We said especially when you're the Kings and they're the Aves. But just point. Larger point kind of being happens in playoffs. Dude, we always say this. Pucks just get thrown on net in playoffs. Sure they do. Not in the regular season. Sure happens. We have seen pucks bounce in off pretty much every goalie so far. Two games in a row. When Vladar kind of mishandles one behind and then Tanger shoots one over the head and hits him. I just. Now, now here comes theory number three. Now it's a problem because I can't be having goals just fucking bouncing in off you from behind the net every game.

[Dan]

It's. It's happening to this team a lot.

[Chris]

Yeah. So I'm going to need that. You got to clean it up cleaned up in a big way to clean it up to the point. Dude, that I'm almost going. Dude, stay in the fucking net. I'd rather as a defenseman retrieve my own rim jobs than. Than you trying to get out and stop everything and whatever. Just fucking stop the puck, please.

[Dan]

Okay, here's my take on this. God, I wish we had Wyatt for this discussion. As a defenseman.

[Chris]

Yep.

[Dan]

I fucking hate it when my goalie touches the buck. I would. I would scream at them if. Unless it is such a clean dump that they can get back behind the net to stop it and then get out of my way before I even get there. It's. If there is a world where we are. We are close to each other, I would hate it. I would always be like, just leave it, dude. Fucking stop touching it.

[Chris]

Does that include when we were playing at a higher level? Because in beer league I agree with you.

[Dan]

I'm like, oh no. I mean the higher level. I. I would all. And like, my goalies knew that about me. I was like, if. I was like, if I'm on the ice, don't fucking touch the puck.

[Chris]

Oh. I was like, go get that baby. I mean I was never back there.

[Dan]

But I hated it because there's always the, like again, if they go back and just stop it and then they come out and they're like, it's there. That's great. But it's when they would touch it and then like look up and try to pass me, I'd be like, just fucking leave it alone. Because the best case scenario is you snap one tape to tape to me in a five foot box. And we don't need that. No one needs that. We're not saving time, dude.

[Chris]

When I was there was one game where we had a power play and I'm at the very top. Yeah, Puck, like, probably my fault. Like, puck bounces over my stick, whatever. And now it's trickling towards our goal and I'm like, oh, fuck, someone's going to get a shorthanded breakaway. So I take off after it and I think I'm going to get there, but my goalie decides to come out and get it too, because he's like, well, I can win that race. So I peel off to the sides, I'm like, just clear that shit, dude. Like, people are coming and he fires them. And goalies can fire him pretty good.

[Dan]

Oh, yeah.

[Chris]

And he fires one directly off my shin pads and back into our own net. And that game was getting streamed on tv and I remember being like, this sucks.

[Dan]

What have you done?

[Chris]

And I need you to. Yeah, what have you done? You've just humiliated me. This wasn't my fucking fault. Goalie, stay in the fucking net. Vidar, stay in the fucking net. Figure it out. However, Dan, is there anything to this? The Pen's third goal, even though it was the Vladar chaos.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Was a little lucky. And I'm wondering, I mean, the Solder Bloom goal is great, actually. So is the bartender doers. So is that Crosby. Great fucking play. You know what? I take it back. I was going to say, I'm just worried that if I'm Pittsburgh and if I rolled on Philly in this game, like, it looked like it might go, yeah, I go, we are so fine. I go into. I go into Philly, beat them again where I've already beaten, and then we go home, Game seven is ours. And I. I do think Pittsburgh at least thinks that if we can get this to game seven, we're going to win. But I think if I'm Philly, I go, dude, we're so fine. Like, they went up to nothing again. We tied the game. And then they bounced one off the end wall and went in like, we're going home. We're going to win. It's all good.

[Dan]

Yeah. I. I don't think you're panicked, but I think that this is now a series. Zach, can you pull up that pic that I sent you? I want. I want everyone to see this picture if they haven't seen it yet, but we had the Crosby embellishment play, right?

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And then the reaction he had to the fan in the. Was awesome. Was awesome. Because it was very much like he is like, yeah, whatever.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So I actually thought that was a fun sign of him being like, whatever, dude. I'm not fazed by that. We also got all the guys in Pitt going, Crosby's on the score sheet. Tangers on the score sheet. With the game winning goal tonight, Carlson's on the score sheet.

[Chris]

You.

[Dan]

You've got some vibes now here in Pitt, and I think that they are. They're playing. So this shirt that Carlson is wearing says 50 years, no cups, with, like a Flyers logo on it and that shit. To wear that in the game, like, in the locker room like this, like, that's shithousery, man.

[Chris]

Yes, it is.

[Dan]

You're down. Three, two. But that is proper shithousery. Like, look at that. That is so funny.

[Chris]

And. Yeah, go on.

[Dan]

And this is the type of shithousery that I think rallies a team. That's the type of shithousery that gets the people going.

[Chris]

So I. I love this. I love this shirt. I love that it exists. It's so fucking funny that he would wear it. This feels like one of those shirts that frankly, like, a company like us would make. And then once they won the series, or maybe even once they won the final, they would have it on. Like when the Panthers boys have all those teasers on at the parade and all that shit. To wear it right now down, three, two. Is fucking epic. Here's a question, though, is.

[Dan]

Here's the big question. Is the photo real? Do we even care?

[Chris]

Is the photo real? I don't know.

[Dan]

Where did you get it? So here's the tease for everybody. The hat is why it's definitely not real.

[Chris]

What does the hat say?

[Dan]

Zach, if you can pull the photo down. This is why I love. This is why I wanted to put the photo.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Because I see that. I'm like, oh, my God, look at the hat.

[Chris]

Liquor.

[Dan]

Yeah. If she'll let me correct.

[Chris]

It's not real.

[Dan]

Or at least it certainly can't be real. But, dude, I wanted to throw that up because I want it. I want that juice. I want people to feel the juice.

[Chris]

How do we make that shirt? We need to make that shirt immediately.

[Dan]

How do we make that hat?

[Chris]

Dude, I already have that. Yeah, you got that hat from me, dude.

[Dan]

So sorry. Sorry for the. Sorry for the dupe, folks, but I just. I need. I needed to insert the juice into Penguins fans because that is the energy

[Chris]

that we do need. That shirt being sold outside the rink. Here's a question, though, Daniel, about shithousery. Is there a. And this is a fine line, because players, great players do this all the time. Marshy Matthew Kachak, to a degree. I mean, frankly, that whole Panthers team last year, you want to be that instigator. You want to be getting under people's skin, but sometimes it does wake up the team. Like, you're kind of trying to be like, I'm a pest. Whatever, whatever. And I think. Think there's a version where the Flyers shithousery has now awoken these guys. You just were naming all the guys that are getting on the score sheet. Yeah. Before, I was kind of like, dude, let them. Let them be like, you're winning. You're doing everything right. Like, they don't need. And I know the argument is, well, we're getting them off their game. That's why they're not scoring. But I'm like, oh, dude, they're just not. Sc. Just leave it, leave it, leave it, leave it, leave it. Because there's so much happening that I'm almost like, man, the Flyers are too concerned with bothering the Penguin Stars than they are with winning. And now the Penguin stars are scoring, and now the Flyers are losing.

[Dan]

Yeah, that concerns me. Is there a chance that Dan Muse just needed a little bit to adjust? First three. First three games, it was like, it's playoff hockey. He was like, I don't know what I'm doing. I did feel that way, but now he's kind of like, okay, I got a feel for this. And we're. They're back to playing their game and.

[Chris]

And making some plays, five on five that I didn't think we've been seeing, especially in the neutral zone, because it was like, the Flyers are on this one. Three, one.

[Dan]

And the Penguins are dead because Biz Biz pointed out. And I really like this call. In the first three games, this Penguins team surprised the world, in my opinion. I mean, the fact that they were second in the Met was amazing. They surprised the world, but they played. You had Crosby, who was point per game again. Then you had guys like Mantha, who had such an insane season, and they played a very clean version of hockey. It was like a Very.

[Chris]

They were pumping.

[Dan]

Not really blowing your dick off, but they were pumping in goals in a very clean, crisp version of hockey. And then they got into the series and they tried to play fucking rope a dope with Philly.

[Chris]

Yep.

[Dan]

They got in the mud and this is a clean team. Penguins don't like mud. They like snow.

[Chris]

Yeah, they love snow.

[Dan]

And they are all of a sudden slipping and sliding around in the mud and they were like, this isn't working. And I feel like the last two games have been more penguins hockey. And what do you know, they've got

[Chris]

a couple dub, dub, dub. I think I agree with that. And I just though there's. If you're Philly, the pressure I think is your only enemy. Because I actually think even in these two losses, they've been right in the mixer. If it wasn't game four also tied, like they went down and then tied it. No, maybe Philly went up or excuse me, maybe Pitt went up 3:1 and

[Dan]

yeah, connect me scored, I think and made it a one goal game. But then.

[Chris]

Yeah, so they didn't actually. But in this one they tied it up. I just. If I'm talk, I'm going like this, dude. Yes, this is a series, but what did we think we were going to sweep? The Penguins, like, you're fine, just win at home and we're good. However, that is easier said from a guy like talk who's got a thousand pims and a thousand points.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Has been in these situations versus some guys.

[Dan]

Spin zone. Right.

[Chris]

Some guys who have never been in the playoffs literally ever. It's a very young team. No playoff experience against the Legends on that other side.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

So it is going to be hard, I think for them to go into game six at home going, if we lose this game, we are so fucking fucked. Because now we're about to get reverse swept back in pit. Blah, blah, blah. Not guaranteed that. Let's just saying there's a lot of pressure.

[Dan]

Let's have a question about that pressure. Zach, if you're a fan and your team's up 3 0. If the other team wins 2. Are you sweating already or are you like. No, no, no, I don't sweat until it's 3 3. I mean, it depends on the team if like it depends on the year. Depends on the team. But if it's a team that bounces back. Kind of like the Timberwolves on the NBA side. Yeah. If I just feel they got that like grit and they got that just like, I want to be down, but

[Chris]

I'm going to fight back, then I'm chilling. Okay.

[Dan]

But if they're, like, little high and mighty, a little crazy, and you can tell that they panic when they're up, then I'm.

[Chris]

I'm freaking out.

[Dan]

So it's more about the personality of the team to me. Okay, See, I like that take. I think it is. I don't think it's a standard if you lose. If you're. If you have the sweep on the table and now the reverse sweep is possibly coming. I don't think it is a standard. Well, if they win 10, two, you start freaking out. I do think it depends on the team, and I'm glad Zach said that, because I think a Sidney Crosby team is chilling. No, not as chilling, but is like, I'm scared.

[Chris]

Oh, if you're playing.

[Dan]

If I'm Philly, I'm like, I hate that this is Crosby. Well, dude, we say also, you make the switch to she Loves dude, and all of a sudden you start winning. This is exactly what happened to the fucking Kings last year. Picard goes in for the Oilers, and they never lose a fucking again. And you're like, oh, my God, dude.

[Chris]

And here's what's crazy. Okay? So I have a couple things to say about this. I got to make sure I don't forget them, the goalies. Okay. On the. On the series score thing, we had said with Bugsy that it was like, The Flyers are 160 when they go up 2, nothing.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

In franchise history, this was going into game three, and we had all been like, I bet Pitt wins game three in Philly, and we're going to leave 2, 2 with road wins. And then the Flyers won game three. And I was like, oh, wow, never mind. Yeah, but Bugsy was saying, man, doesn't Sid feel like the guy who would end that? Like, the flyers are 16 and, oh, all time, and it's like, but now you're playing Crosby.

[Dan]

Yes.

[Chris]

I almost feel it even harder now that I'm like, of course Sid is the guy that reverse sweeps the floor. Yeah. Like, they go, we did it. And I'm like. And then Sid rips your soul out of your body. That would be a nightmare. Also. I think this is a ridiculous take, but I believe this. Yeah. I would rather. If I feel like I'm the better team, I would rather lose a game on the way in the series. Like, I want to lose one early. I want to go up two zero and then lose or even lose game two and just be like, I'm better, dude. We will win. Because the 3.0only leads to weird conversations like this. As soon as you go up three zero, everybody starts going, oh, you better close it out. The pressure. And I'm like, chill, dude. We're better. Who cares? I don't know. I. I just.

[Dan]

I refuse the mental games, dude. Just. They're real.

[Chris]

But they're real. They're real.

[Dan]

Just win hockey games.

[Chris]

They're real, dude. I agree with that.

[Dan]

Like, look at the canes. Look at the apps. Like, just win. It doesn't matter.

[Chris]

Yeah, but, dude, if you.

[Dan]

The mental stuff only happens if you let it, dude. And you are the biggest mental fuck stick I've ever.

[Chris]

Yep. But I bet more people are like me than like you. You're also mental, dude. Fuck you.

[Dan]

Yeah, I'm definitely mental. I'm definitely mental. But I'm talking about with sports. You could be. Chris could be a fan of A team that's up 30 in the series. And then in game four, they go up 4 nothing, and the other team scores one goal. And Chris goes like this.

[Chris]

That's it. That's it.

[Dan]

That's the beginning of the end.

[Chris]

That's game.

[Dan]

That is what you would do.

[Chris]

I know, because I am right. I know it's game.

[Dan]

No, dude, that is the thing you. Well, you always go, I'm right. And that is why I do this. You've been right maybe 7% in your life. High. That feels high, but it's just like. It does feel high, doesn't it? Dip. It's probably more like 2% feels right, but you just parade around going like this. Yeah, but that 2% that I was right. I shoved.

[Chris]

Yeah. And it was worth it for my mental health. My mental health. Okay, goalie thing. The. Here's my fear. If you're a Penguins fan. Yeah. Here should be your fear.

[Dan]

You.

[Chris]

I did. I don't know how I didn't see it earlier, but you are spot on. The switch to Shelob the Spider, who has won. They've said it a million times in the broadcast, but has won the AHL playoff mvp. Has won a world championship gold or whatever it was. World junior goal, you know, but he's. He shined in international competitions, shined in playoffs in the ahl. The switch to Shelobs was diabolically smart, and it's going to be what Jean Luc Picard did, and it's going to be what she Lob has done in

[Dan]

the past, I was gonna say, in Vancouver.

[Chris]

Yep.

[Dan]

When he showed up in Vancouver, out of nowhere, he was great in that playoff Series, and people were like, what the. Who is this guy?

[Chris]

And, dude, this is what I forgot. And I'm. I'm not even joking, and this is going to sound hyperbolic, but I. This is what I legitimately forgot. We kept saying. Everybody kept saying about the Skinner deal. Well, don't forget Stu's gotten pretty hot in playoffs. If Stu gets hot, I mean, who knows what could happen? The Penguins going around. Stu has multiple playoff shutouts in his career. Correct. Dude, Stu has only gotten hot in

[Dan]

playoffs after he's been yanked.

[Chris]

After he's been yanked.

[Dan]

This is what you need.

[Chris]

I can't believe I forgot about this. So the switch to Shelob not only buys you a big game dog goalie who could steal a few, but it also allows you to go back to Skinner and activate multiple shutouts. The fear if you're pit is you waited one game too long to do it, though, because you left no room for error. I swear, if you pulled Skinner after game two, she love would have won you game three, game four, game five, whatever. Maybe you lose game six, whatever. And then you get to go back to Stu and you get shutty, shutty, shutty. And now we're rolling. But you really do need she love to give you four straight here because you waited one game long.

[Dan]

Interesting.

[Chris]

So I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen, but the switch was fucking genius, dude.

[Dan]

So my last thing on this series is, I will say after the game, I loved. Loved the fight from Porter Martone with Latang. Okay, that's a guy twice.

[Chris]

Porter is the man.

[Dan]

He is the man. It's crazy. That is a guy twice your age, and they're just feeding each other, and I was like, okay, dude, twice your age.

[Chris]

First ballot, hall of Famer.

[Dan]

Correct.

[Chris]

And you're. You're like, dude, eat a knuckle. Fucking.

[Dan]

Yeah. You're just going. And I love that. I love that. Okay, if Pitt wins game six, are you calling it for Pitt?

[Chris]

I'm not calling it because you're a pussy. There's no. No, it's out of respect for Philly, but I think if you. Or I guess define call it for me, that's automatic. It's over. Philly might as well not show up. That's why I'm saying I don't believe it's that. Because Philly, out of respect. But if you're asking me to say, you know who wins, I'm taking pit.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

If it goes seven, Yeah.

[Dan]

I think this is a battle. No Matter what.

[Chris]

I think Philly can win game six, though.

[Dan]

I, I.

[Chris]

People are tweaking, but I'm like, they should just know.

[Dan]

I think Philly can win game six, too.

[Chris]

Yep.

[Dan]

I feel good about that. Okay, moving on.

[Chris]

No, I got one thing on that series, and it's important. Okay. Malkin firing the puck into the Philly bench. I. Did you see it? It was early. I did watch it. Yeah. The. So online.

[Dan]

I had, like, just come alive at that.

[Chris]

Okay, yeah, online. See if you can find that ev. Or, I mean, Zach, see if you can find the clip of Malkin shooting the puck onto the Philly bench. We'll put it up on this, on this, on the stream. Malkin shoots the puck, and he's just trying to get it in, and it hits either the ref or it must have hit the bench, whatever. Like, just organically. We get a whistle. I kind of look away. I look back up. Everybody's screaming. Ray Ferraro's going, like, what the fuck is going on? I rewind the YouTube stream. He literally was. He was like, what the hell happened? What the hell's going on around here?

[Dan]

What the fuck?

[Chris]

And Sean, our boy Sean goes, do you think that was intentional? And then finally, they get some good replays. I was seeing a bunch of people online go, and I think Colby was on the stream, too. Army was on the string, too. Some people were saying he's trying to flip it to the linesman, but I don't think so because he's a. Not even looking at the linesman. Which players have done that? Like a no, look, flip. But, dude, he's not even looking at him. And it's way too hard. Yeah, it's hard. Way too hard.

[Dan]

Felt like a shot.

[Chris]

And then army goes. I think he was trying to fire it off Porter Martone, because he's kind of right there just trying to, like, flick it at him, which is also douchey, but, like, whatever. He's just flicking it off your shin pads. That's. That's just being a shit stirrer.

[Dan]

Yeah, this is about.

[Chris]

Then he misses, and it does, like, nearly drill the assistant coach. And that's what you see talks saying, you go, you almost hit him in the fucking head, douche. Yeah, I, I, I want, I want your take on it. Because intention doesn't matter, right? They always say that about tripping. I don't care what you were trying to do. The guy stepped on your stick and tripped. And even if he was like, dude, I was just trying to flick it off Martone. I'M like, yeah, but you did fire it at their bench and nearly hit the assistant to the point that I could have seen a penalty there and not been that upset. Of course, it's like one minute into the game, and I would have been like. I could see myself also being like, that's a little soft. But I'm like, moss, you gotta calm down, dude. That was ridiculous.

[Dan]

I think it's a penalty for sure. But I also love it.

[Chris]

Do you love it if he was trying to shoot it at the bed?

[Dan]

Yes.

[Chris]

Okay. I can't go that far because that actually was dangerous. Like, if that had hit, no one's looking. If that hit the assistant coach in the face and he loses two teeth,

[Dan]

I'm like, oh, yeah, it's terrible. Yeah, but I love it.

[Chris]

I can't. I can't co sign that. I can't stamp that. If you mean either to do the bench.

[Dan]

No, me neither. I'm not co signing the behavior.

[Chris]

But I love you saying I love it. I'm saying I can't co sign a love. I will not love an intentional bench. I will love an intentional shot at Porter. That's fine. But an intentional bench rep.

[Dan]

But I think that's what he was doing. I think he was shooting at that Porter.

[Chris]

Yeah. No, but I'm saying if he was. If we sat him down, he went, no, I was trying to fire that at their bench. You said I would still love that.

[Dan]

And yeah, I think I still do. I think he was shooting it at Porter. But even if it's at the bench, dude, series like this, you need shithousery.

[Chris]

What if it was forehand? Does that change it for you? Backhand is like a little. What if he literally just took the puck on his forehead and fires a snapshot?

[Dan]

I think it's insane.

[Chris]

But he's like, holy shit.

[Dan]

I think it's insane, but I still love it.

[Chris]

Someone had to put one across the Pittsburgh bow.

[Dan]

After that, the shithouse.

[Chris]

I can't believe. I can't believe Zegras didn't fucking Michigan spin around and fire one. That Dan Muse and him go like this.

[Dan]

What?

[Chris]

I was just flipping it to the fucking ref and they go, you just. Michigan. Dan muses. Fucking glasses off.

[Dan]

Listen, I. It's. It's. I. I think it was intentional. I think it was mental to do so. But fucking. It's playoff hockey, baby.

[Chris]

Sure is.

[Dan]

Let's make it crazy.

[Chris]

Insane.

[Dan]

Insane.

[Chris]

Okay, now we can go to Vegas, Utah.

[Dan]

This game is drunk. What a game.

[Chris]

And it was hilarious because I was Talking to Marty, Alec. Yeah, Marty. And you were flying Monday, I think as of right now, or excuse me, Friday. Yeah. So we've been talking about the live stream and how just someone. I should have come on for a little bit. So I go, marty, any chance you're free Friday morning to do that live show? Yeah. And he goes in, but I'm supposed to do Vegas game six, so if that's happening, I'm out, but I'll let you know. And I said, all good. Vegas goes up 3 nothing. I text him, so catch you next week. Yeah, I was like, there's obviously a game six now. And then it was like four, three Utah. And he was like, well, maybe, maybe I'm in. I was like, Holy shit. Dr. Watkins texted us soaking works. Which I thought was funny because I could not believe that comeback. And this is another one similar to three Philly Pit Game four, where I was sitting there going, yep, here comes the Vegas fucking steamroll. Here comes the. Oh, I hope you've had fun in playoffs, Utah. Good day. I'm going to win this game, go home, win game five, and then probably rinse you in game six. But even if not, I win in seven and then I don't even care that Vegas won. The fact that Utah has a 43 lead in this game makes me feel so much more confident that they are completely fine. And obviously this is a tilt, but it, it started to feel like, oh shit, we're dead. And when we caught them by surprise. No longer. I am so fine with this loss. So fine with this loss.

[Dan]

If I'm the Mammoth, I think I am too. But anytime you're giving up four or five goals, I don't think you can feel great.

[Chris]

Yep.

[Dan]

And I mean, listen, this game starts and Vegas was absolutely pistol whipping them and I thought to myself, well, you're dead. We declared Vegas dead yesterday.

[Chris]

I know.

[Dan]

I was like, they're, they're finished. And they go up three nothing. And I was like, well, they're alive. Holy hell. And they let them. Not only do the Mammoth come back and tie it, the Mammoth come back and take a lead. And then you fucking let them score and then lose again. I didn't. I thought it was like a, it was a good battle back, but I'm certainly not like, fine. Once you get the lead in that game, you have to be at home because, dude, you have to be like, and we have ripped your soul out of your body and you're now down 3 1.

[Chris]

Yeah, it's over.

[Dan]

But you give that lead Back up and lose. So, no, I do not think at all. The Mammoth are like, I feel great about that, dude. Or rather, I'm not fazed by that at all. I think coming, ripping that lead back and then fumbling, it fucking blows.

[Chris]

So you're saying. And I don't think I agree with this, but it's an interesting convo. You're saying you would have rather. If you're Utah, if you have to lose, obviously you want to win, but

[Dan]

if you have to hate your dumbass hypotheticals, dude.

[Chris]

Well, this is, this is a great one. If you're Utah, would you rather have just lost, you know, 4, 5, 1, because you go whatever, or would you rather have come all the way back, taken the lead and then lost it in overtime?

[Dan]

I would have rather won the game. How about that?

[Chris]

Fuck.

[Dan]

Shit.

[Chris]

Choice C wasn't on the sheet.

[Dan]

Well, I'm creating it. I wrote it in. I put choice C put a poll

[Chris]

up in the chat so somebody can. Somebody can answer. I just.

[Dan]

If you're. Seriously, if you're gonna be a douche about it with that question, like, I don't give a fuck how you lose. It doesn't fucking matter. The puck goes in. How the puck goes in. If they lost, they lost. I'm saying if you're gonna try to act like, oh, dude, the fact that they came back, it makes that loss way less bad. I disagree. I think you don't, you don't want to lose it all. But I think to come back and take the lead in the third period and then give it up again and lose in overtime, I do not think Utah has this like, oh, dude, I'm not like, fuck that game. Whatever. I think you fucking fumbled that game. I don't even think that's debatable. You have a lead. You score four straight goals and take the lead in the third period of that game, and then you give it up and lose an OT on home ice, that is a fumbling of that game. Is Utah freaking out? No, it's a. We're an even series now. We're playing a best of three now. But fucking get absolutely fucked with. The attitude of that means nothing. Like, they're there. They feel great about that loss.

[Chris]

I do. No one's ever felt great about a loss. Which is not at all what I said.

[Dan]

No, I'm not, I'm not saying you did, but I'm saying this fucking bitch ass attitude of like, oh, I'm not phased at all because we came back in that game and then puked on ourselves. I'm like, what are you talking about? They puked on themselves.

[Chris]

Dude, puking on yourself. Yourself is what Vegas did. Like, puking on yourself is what Boston did in game one. Losing a one goal lead to a higher seed team, to the, to the division winning team, when you're a wild card team is not puking on yourself. You go, oh, my God, a really good team scored one goal against us. That is. That's hockey.

[Dan]

But. But again, you're ignoring the fact that they scored four straight to rip the dude. If you mental case dicks. If you were on the ice.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And you gave up four goals, you would literally leave the ice, dude. You would have gone to the locker room and gotten changed because you would have gone just forfeit.

[Chris]

It's over. Like, I was Vegas. Yes.

[Dan]

If you want to talk about the fucking mental state of the game, going up three nothing in their barn. You were like this fucking eat me, Utah. Like, you think that you had an upper hand on us. It's three nothing and then you give up four goals. You were like, oh, my God. So you're absolutely right. Utah or Vegas goes up three nothing. And then they puked on themselves.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Dan]

But then when Utah gets those four goals and has all the momentum and gives up a goal and then loses an ot, you've also puked on yourself.

[Chris]

Dual puke.

[Dan]

There was. There was mutual puking.

[Chris]

Double barrel puking.

[Dan]

There's no doubt that there was multiple pukes.

[Chris]

Yep.

[Dan]

But I'm just saying, to go all the way back to your initial point. No, I do not think anyone is unfazed by that loss. Like, if I'm Utah and I get in that locker room, I am like, fuck me. I'm not. I'm not. Like, we're dead. Because like we said, it's a three game series.

[Chris]

Now.

[Dan]

It's fine. It's two, two. It's all evened up. But no question about it, they are

[Chris]

like, motherfucker had a chance.

[Dan]

We had a chance and we had a chance to eviscerate them. Two wins at home. You're now down three one. Vegas, suck me. You have a great chance and you blew it. So, like, yeah, they. I think that they are absolutely pissed. They're. They're not in that locker room clapping it up, being like, boys, great fucking battle back. They don't know what's coming. You had two overtimes to win and you couldn't. So you are mad if you were Utah.

[Chris]

Now, unfortunately, you've lost half the games at Delta Center. So you don't even have that home ice advantage anymore.

[Dan]

They were 100%, Chris. Now it's like they were a hundred percent.

[Chris]

Fucking coin flip. And now they're 50%, which is so bad. Yeah. Like, everything. I think you just said this in the pit series. Everything is a spin zone. Absolutely. I initially would be going, oh, my God. We literally had a chance, a golden chance to go up 3, 1. And now we have fucked that. Yeah. But with some time and again, spin zone. But with some time, I am 100% going down that locker and dapping everybody up going like this. That was their fucking best punch. And we went like this.

[Dan]

Like this.

[Chris]

Fucked. Watch how quickly I came back. There is no lead that they could ever get that is safe against us. They. They think they're better than us. They thought they were going to roll on us. That doesn't even exist. They could never roll on us. We are in every fucking game. And tonight proved it. That's my spin zone for the boys and I. And I feel that way. And that's why me personally would rather lose that way than going, we got wrenched six one.

[Dan]

And I go, yeah, and listen, I think that that is a good spin zone, but I don't think it's a real spin zone. I think in your. Like, you can say it to pump yourselves up, but I don't think it's definite. I think you're like, yep, that is true. Like, we did fight back, and that's good, I guess.

[Chris]

I think it actually hinges on that fourth goal. If it got three. Three. I think my spin is completely.

[Dan]

I. I totally agree.

[Chris]

The 4:3.

[Dan]

Like, but the fact that you took the lead in the third, I'm like, you gotta win now.

[Chris]

Yep. And. And that. And the 3 one is so tough. But, dude, this is another one. Like, just like Philly. I know there's a lot of pressure, and now it's like, oh, there's more home games in Vegas. But I'm like, dude, do you feel if you are. If you are a Mammoth fan, do you feel like you can't beat Vegas anywhere? Like, you are going, oh, no, we're going to play two. And they. I'm like, who gives a. Just beat them wherever you are.

[Dan]

It doesn't matter 100%.

[Chris]

By the way, who didn't. Did they finish with more points than Vegas? Like, probably, right?

[Dan]

Oh, yeah, they might have.

[Chris]

You know, I'm like, dude, Vegas stinks. The entire Pacific stinks.

[Dan]

The Pacific is so gnarly. It's crazy. But, yeah, I mean zero regulation losses in Delta Center. Still, this Vegas team, as we said in the beginning of the series, I think, or excuse me, this Utah team has every single ability to take care of this Vegas team.

[Chris]

Mammoth 92, Vegas 95. Okay. So Mammoth 43 wins though. Vegas 39. So you know what I mean? It's a dog fight.

[Dan]

That's a dog fight. These are two very even teams.

[Chris]

I think Eichel is great.

[Dan]

Are we just playing the game here? This is great.

[Chris]

Yes. Dude, that's gas.

[Dan]

Look at that bang. Great stuff, Scorpio.

[Chris]

I thought Aika was great. We had said.

[Dan]

I. I just know.

[Chris]

Go on.

[Dan]

I've got something to say about Jack.

[Chris]

I, we. We had said last episode that he's one of the best players alive and. But sometimes I'm like, dude, I just need you to like do everything. Sometimes where I'm like, what is happening? And it's never totally his game that he's going to go full like McDavid end to end rush. I mean that's nobody's game. But McDavid. But you know what I'm saying.

[Dan]

It's just.

[Chris]

It's not exactly in his bag. He just impacts the game in so many ways that hockey fans notice. And I do think he had that game today. Including two, three assists. Including the overtime winning assists.

[Dan]

Like his ozone possession is insane. He has that Quinn Hughes element to him where it's like when Even if it's 5v5, when he has the puck, players just back off. Yeah. And it feels like they're on a power play. It's really impressive. But the thing I will say about Jack, and I'll say this right to Jack. I'm looking at you, buddy. I need you to score.

[Chris]

Yep.

[Dan]

I need you to shoot the puck. Marner too. It's like the fact that we're through four games and these guys don't have a bunch of goals going. I'm like, you two fuckers are so good. If I'm a Vegas fan, I'm losing my mind at the two of them with sometimes when they're not shooting, someone needs to shoot on this team. And this is two episodes in a row that I'm saying this. And it's like I need one of these guys to just take over and be like this. I'm going to score goals. But it's isn't.

[Chris]

Don't you feel like how many? I'm just trying to see how many he had this year. 27. See 31 two years ago, then 28, then 27. 31 and 63, though. That was nice. Yeah, he. You're right. But it's also. It feels impossible to change now. I'm like, you've had all year to be like somebody, shoot. And no one's going to. You think so to be like, hey, shoot it.

[Dan]

I feel like those two are so, so good that I'm like this, go out and shoot today.

[Chris]

Yeah. Fuck.

[Dan]

I mean, that's ridiculous, Chris. It's ridiculous to say that an NHL player of their abilities just can't go out and be like this, shoot. I'm getting fucking 10 shots on net today.

[Chris]

Yep.

[Dan]

Just do it.

[Chris]

See what happens.

[Dan]

How many times did you see Eichel with the puck down, like on the. On the below the dot, slinking up and has. It's not the best angle shot, but he could throw one on net, dude.

[Chris]

Especially, man, because. And I just said this in the last series. Look at, look at the Sanheim goal where he just has it in the corner, fires it, grazes Carlson's stick, changes the angle on chilob, goes in off the post. Yeah, just fire these pucks.

[Dan]

Look at the cold goal.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Shot from the point, fucking howitzer off the bar and in like. It's just like, throw pucks at the

[Chris]

net, pucks on net, they hit bodies, they create rebounds. I think Jack and Marner, in a way get obsessed with making these a perfect play because they have that ability. Few people on earth have the ability to make the perfect play like they do. And they go, Jack especially goes. The longer I have the puck on my stick, the more chances, the more time there is for somebody to get open and then me to do something special and then we will score. And the more I have the puck, the better of the Vegas Golden Knights are. But I am kind of like, just rip it. Yeah, just rip it, dude. And it would behoove them, but I mean, they scored. They scored five scored. Foreign regulation. Like they're.

[Dan]

No, listen, great game for me. I mean, you. You. A little bit of puke, a little bit of spittle on the shirt. You pulled it and you won for sure. And that. That is a. I mean, dude, I. We. We prematurely called them dead yesterday.

[Chris]

Yep.

[Dan]

And if they had gone up 3 nothing in this game and coughed that lead up and lost, oh, then I like that this series was over in five. No, no question.

[Chris]

The practice they had torts had Carter Hart out for taking the number one reps. Somebody, I think it was actually maybe even Steve Levy or maybe it was a different reporter, but somebody said Oh, I know. Have you made a decision? We. I thought we saw. We thought we saw Hart taking those reps, and Torts cut him off and was like, it's 100 Carter heart. This isn't even a conversation. And then Steve Levy went up to him and was like, man, Torts. Another. A few other coaches, I'm not saying would have done a goalie change, but it certainly would have been a conversation. The way you're talking, it's not. Didn't even cross your mind?

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

And Torts kind of cut him off, too, and was like, did not even cross my mind. He's playing incredible. I've seen him. The way he's playing in practice is incredible. We're all good. Yeah. And he also said, I know this kid and he will. He steps up in moments like this. And when it was three nothing, I was like, damn, Torts, good call. Like, here comes a Carter heart shutout and Vegas is going to roll. And then Utah gets four. Four late. And I was like, oh, man. And clearly, the way Torch is talking, it's Carter Hart's net. But I am now all of a sudden being like, ooh, the goalie issue might be the death of Vegas, because the way he played under Torts's eight games or whatever, the way he played to start the series, I was like, man, dude, Vegas scary. Vegas scary. If they have a goalie who's going to give them this.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

I'm like, can you outscore the Mammoth with Carter Hart playing the way he is? I'm not sure.

[Dan]

Yeah, it's. Listen, that that was going to be my next point to bring up, and I've said a bunch of times, I just don't know about Vegas's gold. Yeah, it's. It's so funny to look back. When they won the cup, they won with playing 3, 4 goalies throughout the entire LT. I. I don't know. I can't remember. I think it was lt and then it was lb, then it was lb, then it was Hill. Quickie was playing during the season. He didn't even get ing mental. So it's like, even when they won the cup, they did not have a goalie that was their goalie from start to finish. They do right now if they're going to go the distance. And the question I keep having is, is he good enough? I'm not sure. Yeah, that game started to look pretty good, then started to look pretty bad. So we have three games now I actually love. We've been stroking off Dallas, Minnesota, and this Series is incredible as well.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And kind of under the radar incredible. And now I. We have a very interesting situation in that we have three games here where I don't think anyone can tell me what to expect from this.

[Chris]

I know.

[Dan]

I don't think anyone can tell me. Oh, Veggie's gonna have an unbelievable game in game five. Hill Heart's gonna have an unbelievable game in game five. There's so many question marks about this series, so I'm. I think I'm giving it a stamp of must watch.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Because it's like, I don't know what the fuck is gonna happen. So here we go.

[Chris]

It's. It's interesting to me that there. Every team that has a guy. And actually, you know, I'll circle back to that. Every team that has a guy. Sway, Vassi, whatever. There's no real goalie change conversation. Do you know what I'm saying? No one's going, oh, my God, I wonder if Korpi gets game five. I wonder if I don't even know the Lightning's backup is. You know, that's. That's the situation on those teams. On the teams that do have goalie coin flips. Most of them we've seen do it. Buffalo has made a goalie change. Pittsburgh has made a goalie change. Edmonton has made a goalie change. Right. And I would say that Vegas should have. Should have qualified as a team.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

That is coin flip goalie in my. When you look at them, you go, I don't know. So, yeah, they're kind of the only team that goes this could have been either one that has refused to do that. Where every other team that goes this could have been either one has already been like, yo, we're gonna try something else. And I guess that's a torts thing and that's fine. But I'm kind of surprised there hasn't been any Hill movement. And I bet if they had lost this game, 5, 4. There. There might have been.

[Dan]

Are you furious? If you're Aiden Hill, yes.

[Chris]

Because, dude, keep in mind, Aiden Hill and every goalie's like this. Every pitcher is like this. You know, you want the ball, you want the ball. Aiden Hill is a guy who passionately believes he should be Team Canada's goalie.

[Dan]

Yes.

[Chris]

Right. Like, he's like, I. I can't believe I wasn't starting at four Nations. And I can't believe I'm not there.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

At the Olympics. And granted he was hurt and whatever, but this is a guy who believes he should be Team Canada's goalie, and he's not even playing on his own fucking team. Yeah.

[Dan]

He's healthy right now and is like, I should be starting.

[Chris]

Yep.

[Dan]

This would be a sweep if I were starting. Yeah.

[Chris]

And he's like, now we might lose.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

So.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

But. But I have no issue with that. I want that. He's also a guy who loves his goalie room. Like, he has done nothing but support every goalie he's been with, including on those Canada teams. When he's like, okay, yeah, like, I'm. I got this. I'm behind you. He's not making waves, but he's. He's correctly and competitively wanting that net.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

But, yeah, he. He wants a bid right now. Badly.

[Dan]

Yeah, badly. All right, well, two. Two in that series. Gonna be an insane Game five because we have no idea what's gonna happen. Let's get into the games tonight. First up, we've got Boston, Buffalo, 4:30pm Pacific Time, 7:30 Eastern Time. Boston is up against it.

[Chris]

They are. They sure are. I am. I'm delusional in this series.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

And I've already said so. I don't say it again. I love this Buffalo team so much. Once they put the Bruins out to pasture, I will. I will be so happy for the Sabres. And I want them to go on a long run because they deserve it. The city deserves it. That'd be incredible. And I don't think I need to apologize, but I definitely think they answered the bell in terms of any playoff. Oh, can they handle playoffs? Absolutely. Everything they were doing in the regular season has already translated, and that is fucking awesome. I stand by. And this is probably where I'm delusional. I stand by. This Bruins team is constructed in a way that can. That could beat this Buffalo team in a playoff series. I think the Buffalo Sabres, we're going to finish better than them in the regular season, but in a playoff series, this Bruins team can win. And I just still think that after Sway ripping their heads off in game four, the boys go, yo, we need to be better and they can steal this win. That's what I think.

[Dan]

I. If I'm a betting man, and I am. I'm betting on the Bruins tonight.

[Chris]

Oh, really? I thought you were going the other way. Okay.

[Dan]

I think. Well, there's a couple things. We are from the Boston area. We have a lot of Boston friends back home, and we're on a lot of group chats. And during game four, the group chats were going crazy.

[Chris]

Yep. I.

[Dan]

I don't know what grain alcohol Boston Bruins fans were drinking heading into these playoffs. But. But, dude, this Buffalo team is very good.

[Chris]

Yep.

[Dan]

They won the Atlantic. They were the best team in hockey the second half of the season.

[Chris]

More than that since December 9th. Yeah.

[Dan]

The Bruins are so far ahead of

[Chris]

schedule in this retool.

[Dan]

What Sweeney did, bringing in some of these new guys, some of the young guys stepping up, it's amazing. It's been so fun to watch. And we kind of predicted the Bruins to be a bubble playoff team all year long. And I predict them to maybe just miss the playoffs. They just made the playoffs, which is fucking hell.

[Chris]

Awesome. Yeah.

[Dan]

So fun. But I feel like people are forgetting that they have been a wild card team all season long. Like, the Bruins are one of the more unique teams this season in that. Whereas Carolina was top of the Met all year long and just stayed top of the league all year long.

[Chris]

Yep.

[Dan]

The Bruins were. Were right where they were. Like, this is the Bruins team. So the only thing going into this series was is it going to be a goalie battle? Because UPL and Lyon aren't necessarily blue chip goalies and neither one of them has shown that they are the guy yet. And is Buffalo going to be stunned by playoff hockey because they've not been there for a long time. Yeah, the battle back in game one to me silenced the latter question. Okay, are they going to be able to handle playoffs? In game one, they showed that even when down to nothing late in the third, yes, they can handle playoff hockey. So that's gone. The next is the goalie question. Sway has been the best player in this series in my opinion, and he got fucking hung out to dry in game four by his team. He let him hear it. But it's this. It's this funny narrative of like fucking the Bruins. They should be winning this series. And I'm like, what are you talking about?

[Chris]

Well, yeah, I mean, the. The Bruins assuredly should have won both in Buffalo. And so it should be two, two, and we should be going, wow. I said the double road switch. Like, that's crazy.

[Dan]

I still disagree with that.

[Chris]

Like they should have won that. If you think the Mammoth should have won the game last night. The Bruins should have won game.

[Dan]

But. But my point is, dude, everyone is going. Everyone is acting like that game was fucking night night over. They were up two nothing. And after their two goals, they didn't do shit. They weren't threatening. They were hanging on. They were hanging on. And then one of the best offenses in the east scored two goals. And it's like, yeah, but what I'm saying is like, they tied it. And it's like, okay, what do we do now? You give up another goal.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So it's like, yes. Was that a collapse? For sure. And after game two, when it felt like you emphatically, you got another big lead to start, but then you give up two goals again, you're like, oh, man, we should have won game one. And then we definitely won game two. Then you get beat. S like not handily as like in game four, but in game three. Buffalo won that game from top to bottom. They were the better team the whole game.

[Chris]

Correct.

[Dan]

And then they beat the piss out of you in game four. So the people being like, we should be winning this series. The only thing I'll hear is maybe you could be tied if you didn't fall apart in the end of the first game. But when you really look at it, dude, Buffalo for has been the better team for way longer in this series. And that include game one. There were so many stretches in game one where Buffalo was better and it was just a zero. Zero.

[Chris]

Yeah, I'll hear that. I think I'm slightly less, but I

[Dan]

hear, dude, it is not even debatable who has been the better team for more minutes in this series.

[Chris]

Yeah, it's the Sabers. It is easily the Sabers.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

I think you just go, we beat the Sabers three out of four games in the regular season. We have the better goalie. Yes. And we can hang in playoffs by scoring. We got pasta, we can score. We got geeky. We can score some power play goals. That's the whole attitude. I think any Bruins fans that were being like, we're going to roll on the Sabers. We're drinking grain alcohol for sure. Because I said B's in seven. I wasn't like, oh, my God. And now I'm Sabers in six. Like, I do think the Beast can win tonight. Yeah. But then I just. I'm like, ah, the Savers. The Sabres aren't scared of going to Boston. Like, this doesn't matter.

[Dan]

They'll just. Yeah, they'll take.

[Chris]

So.

[Dan]

So let's go into that. I said, if I were a betting man, I would say that Boston wins tonight. I think Sway is so pissed about that last game that he is going to lock the in. And I do think you have great players and great leaders on this team, starting with Charlie McAvoy who heard that beak job from Sway. And I mean, he answered the bell in the locker room. He was like, if we're not embarrassed by that, I don't know what the fuck to.

[Chris]

Exactly. Yeah.

[Dan]

I think he is going to lead the charge on this team. Being like, if we don't fucking lock down and lay down in front of pucks tonight and get a win for Sway and get back on track. Everyone in here is getting lashes. Yeah. So let's go.

[Chris]

And not to mention, dude, it's gonna be lying again. And no offense, but I'm like, dude, score on the backup to a backup goalie. Like, what is going on?

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

And that's the way I'm like, the Bruins could lose this game. Two, one with another master class Sway performance. Yeah. Like, Sway could lock the give up two on 40 shots and still lose.

[Dan]

Yes.

[Chris]

Because the Bruins, like, yeah, we got one on Alex Lyon.

[Dan]

Do you think Pasta needs to get it going a little bit more here?

[Chris]

Yes. Like the. I said this the other episode.

[Dan]

Hurley, how many points does Pasta have right now in playoffs? David Post,

[Chris]

how many playoff points? I can tell you he, he had a great season.

[Dan]

100 points.

[Chris]

But 100 points again, fourth year in a row.

[Dan]

Unbelievable.

[Chris]

But I'm just like, you are. It's like when Auston Matthews isn't scoring and they're like, well, he's doing. He's winning draws. He's. And I'm like, I don't give a.

[Dan]

Don't care.

[Chris]

You have to score goals. You are David Posternak. You have to score. We're going to lose. And that's a lot of pressure, but that's them, the breaks, dude. So he, he has to do a little more. He has to do a little more. And that's it.

[Dan]

No, you can interrupt whenever. Oh, I did not.

[Chris]

And what, you want playoffs?

[Dan]

Yeah. Just playoff points? No, no. Right now. This, like, this series. Like, does he have one goal and three assists? Does he have, you know, like, what does he have?

[Chris]

I can try to find that. He has Dan.

[Dan]

Oh, CP's on it. CP's on it.

[Chris]

He has five points. And in game one, he had a goal and two assists for three in the, in the four three loss. In game two, he had two apples in the four, two win.

[Dan]

So that's it.

[Chris]

And then Goose. Goose.

[Dan]

I need more from Pasta at home.

[Chris]

Goose. Goose at home.

[Dan]

I need more from Pasta.

[Chris]

Same. I mean, five points in four games, though.

[Dan]

Five points in four games.

[Chris]

But it's weird, though. You know what I mean?

[Dan]

Like, isn't that one of those things, though, where, like, I, I, it's. It's another one. What did he have 29 goals this

[Chris]

year or did he 21? I think.

[Dan]

No, there's no way. He had 79 assists.

[Chris]

Yeah. 71 assist this year. It's like 29. Yeah.

[Dan]

Yeah. So he had like 29 goals this year. Like, that's a 50 goal guy, brother. I. You only scored 29 this year. I know. Geeky was, was buzzing.

[Chris]

Here's a question.

[Dan]

Here we are in the playoffs. I actually think Pasta has been given shit many times by Bruins fans about his playoff performances, and I think that's bullshit. I think he's a great playoff performer, isn't he? Point per game in his playoff career. He is.

[Chris]

Or just under 92 points in 94 games.

[Dan]

Yeah. Like, that is a playoff performer, man. That's fucking crazy.

[Chris]

Yeah. And he's had some good ones, but

[Dan]

I do need him to score. Like, he needs to get goals if Boston is going to win.

[Chris]

Yeah, I'm completely, I'm completely and totally with you. And he's his 50 gold number. Dan is like the Cole Caulfield. Formerly The Cole Caulfield 40. Because pasta has only ever scored in the 40s. Except for one time he scored 61, which was epic.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

But I'm like, Pasta is a 50 goal guy. And he's like, I've literally never done that. Yeah.

[Dan]

Like, okay, shifting it to Buffalo.

[Chris]

Yep.

[Dan]

Where. Where are you at right now? Are you laughing? If you're Buffalo.

[Chris]

Oh, yeah, dude, you're golden. You're. You're. Dude, you go, we're dope. And I hope I handle this tonight. Even though I, I, we just debated this. I like the play every night. I don't want the rest. But ignore that for a second. Yeah, you go handle this tonight. Let Montreal and Tampa kick the out of each other. We are golden. And by the way, we're gonna beat them. Like, we don't give a fuck.

[Dan]

I agree. Like, I think they feel great, but we got that Byram highlights right now. Byram. I mean, that is my guy, dude.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Dan]

He's been my guy since Colorado.

[Chris]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dan]

And he is red hot for this team. I think you want Tage going a little bit more. Me too.

[Chris]

I think. But he's doing shit. He's scoring goals. Scored two goals in the first game. He's awake.

[Dan]

Yes, he is. I think Tucky is doing exactly what you need. I think Tage since game one, maybe. And like, if Tage comes out and scores tonight, I think you're like, oh, boy. We are like, we're winning this game. If you're Buffalo, I think this whole, weirdly enough, top of the Atlantic because you've made the playoffs. Like, I think this whole series is house money. I. I think at this point, if you lose the series. Bad V bad.

[Chris]

Yeah, you're up 3:1.

[Dan]

You can't.

[Chris]

I'm sorry.

[Dan]

If you're up 3:1, you can't lose the series. But if you lose tonight, I don't think you care. I agree with that because Boston has shown fight. They're a good team. And especially after what happened last night, you expect Boston to come out with a lot of piss and vinegar. So if you lose tonight, even on home ice, you're not freaking out, which I think is just a great feeling. Like, I think Buffalo is just fucking riding on vibes right now.

[Chris]

They are. And. And now they're drunk on. On a second round appearance.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Like they've been in the playoffs in 30 fucking years. And now they're like, as we're going around two.

[Dan]

It's unbelievable.

[Chris]

Yeah, I think you are.

[Dan]

Yeah, I think you are.

[Chris]

That's fucking dope.

[Dan]

So huge. Huge shit for Buffalo. I mean, this is just a game that they're. They're happy to. To be like, listen, Boston's going to come out strong tonight. If we lose, we lose. We'll go back to Boston and see if we can take care of business there.

[Chris]

Dallas, Minnesota. Pivotal. Pivotal game five.

[Dan]

Pivotal game five. It's. It's the best series in the playoffs, and it's not close for me. 5:00pm Pacific time.

[Chris]

Oh, did we get. Did we get Pee pee whacked?

[Dan]

8:00pm what do you mean?

[Chris]

Oh, I think we got Peepee whacked. That's okay.

[Dan]

Oh, we got suspended. We got suspended because we were playing highlights.

[Chris]

Can they still hear us or.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Chris]

Okay. Sick.

[Dan]

All right.

[Chris]

I don't know.

[Dan]

It looks like we're still live on Twitter.

[Chris]

Okay. Hell yeah. Yes. Well, I think we keep.

[Dan]

We got. We got pee pee whack, Devin. Yeah,

[Chris]

we got it. We got horny. We got a little horny. I think we're. I think we're still up, though, on something or. No, we're up on Twitter.

[Dan]

Up on Twitter. All right, we're gonna say going on Twitter here, so let's. I mean, looks like the chat's still buzzing.

[Chris]

Yeah, I think so. Okay, everyone type in the.

[Dan]

Guys, if you want a video, go. Go check us out on Twitter. We're up. We're up with video on Twitter and

[Chris]

still audio, I think here.

[Dan]

Yeah, you can still hear, I think.

[Chris]

Okay, so Dallas, Minnesota Best series in the playoffs. Pivotal game five. This is a funny one. What do you think would have to happen, Dan? I guess it's actually too late at this point, Jacob.

[Dan]

In the chat goes the dentist Wong found you.

[Chris]

And that's true, dude.

[Dan]

Michael Wong.

[Chris]

That is awesome.

[Dan]

Report us to YouTube.

[Chris]

That is awesome.

[Dan]

It's the dentist, dude. It's Wong.

[Chris]

Come on. How to fight.

[Dan]

Hey, little fight, folks just like bit. God. We're back. We're back. We are so back. Holy shit.

[Chris]

Incredible.

[Dan]

Baldy Glazer in the chat. We are so fucking back, dude.

[Chris]

That's how you go. That's how you go. Yeah, I would. Dude, that was such an opportunity to come back and be in different outfits. Like I needed that to come back and me being something completely different and have them be like, what the. Dude? Yeah, like that. God, that's such a mess. Next time we get slapped for highlights, I'm changing my shirt. All right.

[Dan]

Dallas. Dallas.

[Chris]

Minnesota.

[Dan]

Little fight. That was huge, guys.

[Chris]

I was gonna say what would have to happen for them to ever go to Gus and net, but I honestly think that ship has sailed in this series. I think it's too late to be like, what?

[Dan]

What the fuck are people talking about? Like, Wallstead made fucking 49 saves the other.

[Chris]

He's been incredible.

[Dan]

Why would you ever go? Why would you even bring that?

[Chris]

Because I told you I was going to circle back to. Of the teams that had a coin flip goalie. Every team has made a shift, except for who we just talking about. Except for Vegas. And I was going to go and Minnesota. And I was like, you know what? I'll just come back to this.

[Dan]

Which is tough because that's a coin flip goalie where I believe both goalies are blue chip goal. Yes.

[Chris]

Which is funny.

[Dan]

So I'm like. I'm like, you're talking about all these other guys, like their backups. Those two are fucking blue chip goals. Right.

[Chris]

And the way they used Gus down the stretch, I'm actually shocked it wasn't.

[Dan]

Do you have any idea, Chris, how much validation I feel during the deadline? I kept saying, if. If I'm garon, I'm trading Gustafson or something. And fucking Elliot. And Elliot, I love you. This is not shaded Elliott. This is Elliot reporting what he was hearing. He was being like, if they trade any goaltender, it's Wallstead.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Cut to Olympics And Walstead is like playing for Sweden.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And I know Gustafson played as well.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Dan]

But now cut to playoffs and Wallstead is your starter. And I'm like what?

[Chris]

Yeah, he ain't going nowhere.

[Dan]

What were all of you talking about? Like, Walstead is the guy.

[Chris]

Yep. So that's been incredible. This one. I guess I don't want you to get into this because we said this last time, but the emotional swings in this series of who I think is the better team and more deserving is chaotic.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Neither team is out. We've seen both teams come back. These. You stamped Utah, Vegas, Must watch. This is the most must watch series. And as much as it pains me to say this, dude, because I really do dislike the playoff format. I got no issue with the purpose of it.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

I just would prefer. Personally, I'd prefer a 1 8, but I mean, you know me, I prefer a 116 legitimately, but it does. This series is a gift and it sucks. 100. It sucks that someone has to hang their hat on. We lost in the first round.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Both of these cities fan bases deserved at least second round playoff runs because playoff runs are fun, dude. As a fan, you're like, oh, it's knocked out.

[Dan]

You're like, shit.

[Chris]

Every other night I had something to do at night with the. My friends, we go get beers. Like, whatever. When your team gets knocked out, it fucking sucks. These cities, these fan bases deserved a longer playoff run, both of them. And one of them isn't going to get it. But the series is still a gift that we get to watch this tilt in the first round. Holy shit.

[Dan]

After. After that game for OT win, Matt Boldy, I tweeted out, Lord, thank you for the Dallas Stars and the Minnesota Wild. What's interesting is, like, there is. There is some bad blood between these two teams. It's not as visceral as pit filly y and it's. But we're getting, you know, we're getting great action. Like, we. We've got fucking nasty hits from Jamie Ben. We've got good chirping going on. But more than anything, there's just such good hockey.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Dan]

It is remarkable watching both of these teams. We've talked about how Minnesota's power play has not been that good.

[Chris]

But even.

[Dan]

Even when they're not scoring, it is delightful to watch them on the power play.

[Chris]

Like, they.

[Dan]

They went 0 for 4 in game four again and somehow won that game.

[Chris]

But it's.

[Dan]

I'll tell you, dude, if I'm Dallas, if Minnesota's power play gets going, I'm fucking. Yeah.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I'm scared. Think about it. They what? Like, Jesus Christ, man. In. In these series, they're. They're let Me.

[Chris]

Look at this.

[Dan]

They were 0 for 4 in game four. And then let me find.

[Chris]

I think it's a one.

[Dan]

I think they were a lot.

[Chris]

One for.

[Dan]

No, I think in game three they were 1 for 7.

[Chris]

Yeah. Snipe job. Nice job.

[Dan]

One for seven. Good job, Chris. And in game two, I think, was it over four again? Yes, by me.

[Chris]

Yep.

[Dan]

So they are. Do that quick math.

[Chris]

What was it? Four, seven, four.

[Dan]

Yep.

[Chris]

15.

[Dan]

Good job. And one one.

[Chris]

One for 50.

[Dan]

One for 15. And you're. You're two.

[Chris]

Two. Yeah.

[Dan]

And that doesn't even count game one. I don't even. I think they might have been an over in game one as well.

[Chris]

God, that would be crazy. Because they won 6 1. I might as well find it.

[Dan]

I'm doing all the research. Why not go and fucking find game one?

[Chris]

Dan, here is the. I guess my question to you.

[Dan]

They were two for four.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Dan]

In that six one you love. So they're three for 19. That is so bad.

[Chris]

Yep. Yeah, it is.

[Dan]

If who is.

[Chris]

Who is upset more if you lose this series, in your opinion, it has to be Dallas. I agree.

[Dan]

It has to be Dallas. Not because Dallas is so much better. Dallas was better all year long. They finished the year better. It has to be Dallas because for the last three years, Dallas has lost before.

[Chris]

They felt that they should have.

[Dan]

Like, they're like, how are we not getting close? And they just get to the conference finals and they lose and they're disappointed like last year. Forgive me, but like the train of the Oilers, that Dallas team was better than that Oilers team.

[Chris]

That was an unthinkable.

[Dan]

It was pathetic.

[Chris]

And they got murdered.

[Dan]

And remember that first game, it was just like, it looked like you were going to be pathetic idiots. And then you battled back and won. And it was like, oh, maybe they learned their lesson. And then they were pathetic idiots. You just can't be pathetic idiots again. And this year truly has felt all year long, even with how good Colorado is. But when it looked like you were going to get Minnesota in round one and at least make it to round two, if you can beat them and then face Colorado, it was like, all right, guys. Like, you cannot fucking lose this year. Yeah. And if you lose in the first round and don't even get a shot at Colorado, you feel like assholes who.

[Chris]

What happened in the Central last year because Minnesota was a wild card team, which is why they got Vegas in the first round. Dallas and Colorado played in the first round.

[Dan]

Yeah, Wasn't it? Wasn't it? Colorado was a wild Card because, like, something happened. Like, people were hurt and they were, like, weird all year.

[Chris]

Is that true?

[Dan]

I think that's what happened because Minnesota didn't win the Central. They were a wild card team.

[Chris]

Yeah. Because they played Vegas.

[Dan]

Yes.

[Chris]

And what? Dallas won the Central?

[Dan]

I think Dallas won the Central and caught Colorado.

[Chris]

Wild card?

[Dan]

Yes.

[Chris]

Okay, that's fucking crazy. But Chat.

[Dan]

Is that what happened? I think that's what happened.

[Chris]

Because my point was going to be Dallas should have lost last year in

[Dan]

the first round to Colorado.

[Chris]

Yeah. Down to nothing. And then they get. I'm just saying in that game. Oh, they. That game was over. And then Moose scored a hat trick with five minutes left, like you had lost. And then you get to go on this nice run. But you were this close to just being out in the first round. Like I thought they. They should have been. So, yes, they will be fuming mad if it does. Doesn't break their way this year.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Do you give them any of a pass with no hints, which is so massive.

[Dan]

Absolutely. And no Sagan.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I mean, what am I looking at? Just speak. You can speak whatever you want. All right. I was gonna speak. I was trying to let Dano know that they weren't a wild card team last year. They weren't. They weren't. Okay, so there was two, three. But it was close. It was a game seven. They played the Stars. It was that whole intense thing. Yeah. Yeah. How did the fucking division finish, though? Just find that out. Chris.

[Chris]

I'm going to look right now.

[Dan]

Are we forgetting someone in the Central, like idiots that won the cent? Like, who won the Central last year?

[Chris]

Boom, boom, boom, boom. Oh, yeah. That's hilarious. Oh, the one that.

[Dan]

Yeah. What are we talking about? I didn't even need to see it.

[Chris]

Winnipeg.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Yes. A Dallas Colorado. Two, three. Yeah, that's what it was.

[Dan]

Two, three, Dallas, Colorado. Because Winnipeg was a wagon last year.

[Chris]

They're in the same situation and it's like another two, three, tilt. And this could break the wrong way for you, but I think no, because no Zuccarello on the other side. I don't mean to say the. Minnesota's firing on all cylinders, but no, no hints is a little bit worse than no Zuccarello.

[Dan]

Yeah. Agree. You see, Zuk is skating, though.

[Chris]

Yeah. And hints feels like not close.

[Dan]

Yeah. So that is huge. If Zuccarello finds his way back into this lineup, that's going to be. And for. We're talking about the power play dude.

[Chris]

Yep.

[Dan]

That. That. That might change things. The Minnesota in Six.

[Chris]

It does feel like, dude, it's possible somebody said in the chat I won't be able to find it if I scroll back. But somebody said thank you everyone in the chat.

[Dan]

By the way, James Baldi, everyone being like Winnipeg. Yes, yes, yes. Sorry it was Jets.

[Chris]

I can't find it. But somebody said must win for Dallas. And obviously any team can win any game in the series. But I hear their point where you go, you certainly don't want to lose this game and then go to Minnesota. Down three two with them.

[Dan]

Yeah, I agree. I don't think so either. And I talked a lot about on the story after that game four. I thought that was such an important game for, for Minnesota. Winning that game, dude. Yeah, 100% winning that game on your home ice. But also it showed the fight little fight. It showed everyone talking about is this Minnesota team different because they.

[Chris]

They were down.

[Dan]

And I think that showed they are different. I was like that was them being like this. Yes we are, dude. We can answer the bell.

[Chris]

So not a must win for Dallas but I think this is an absolute tilt. And Dan, I actually think and this is a lot of pressure for these guys but this currently to me feels like a. Which goalie cracks first loses. Right now both goalies have really held serve with these incredible games. Boom, boom, boom. And maybe, maybe, maybe they both do it for three more games and we're gonna get three more ots and it's awesome. But if one of them doesn't hold serve, if one of them has a dud, they are going to lose and your team is going to lose.

[Dan]

I was trying not to interrupt you because I was about to say I don't think either cracks. I hope not. I think that these are. I mean you could make the argument that Otter cracked in game one.

[Chris]

Sure.

[Dan]

But I, I don't think either of these goalies are going to crack are going to be the reason that either team loses. I think these are just going to be great games for three more games. I think this is going seven. It's going to be incredible. I think it's worse for Dallas if they lose.

[Chris]

Yep.

[Dan]

But Minnesota.

[Chris]

What's.

[Dan]

What's happening in the chat, dude?

[Chris]

Nothing. Oh well, someone says is there. Is there a new empty netters producer? This is number 13 and we're going for 20 by the end of playoffs. Dr. Watkins is. Is tied up in the back room and we keep all the other ones.

[Dan]

Yeah dude, this is just the.

[Chris]

And he's being pimp bottle fed water

[Dan]

out of the people are Unaware at the company. Company that we've got a squad now, dude.

[Chris]

Actually hurls.

[Dan]

Yeah. Come on, slide into camera.

[Chris]

Here's what people. Here's what people really don't understand. Hurls. For all the fans that have watched us for a long time, every time we were in Boston in that sick studio, it was with her, it was hurls. And people don't even realize that. And then we dragged him all the way across the country, and he works here.

[Dan]

We literally moved his ass to California

[Chris]

following your answer since day one.

[Dan]

That's what I'm saying, dude. That's why we have a dream.

[Chris]

What was that place above the studio that we would have beers at after, like, we'd record and then we'd go up Guy Fieri's. Yeah. Tequila cochina. Did you hear that? Is gas.

[Dan]

Did you hear that? Pro pronunciation on Fieri, by the way. Awesome. That was good.

[Chris]

That's all time, dude. We gotta go back there.

[Dan]

So, anyway, I was saying, I do. I do think it's worse for Dallas if they lose, but if Minnesota loses, they are fully the Minnesota Leafs.

[Chris]

Yes, they are.

[Dan]

Like, we've been talking about this for years now, but, like, it sucks that you have to play this good of a team in round one. But if you lose again in round one, you are the Minnesota Leafs. Yeah, Correct.

[Chris]

So, Ducks, Oilers. Last one tonight.

[Dan]

Unbelievable.

[Chris]

What do you think?

[Dan]

I like, my.

[Chris]

My instincts tell me that the Oilers win this game by a billion goals because they're like, you got to be fucking kidding me. But the Ducks, man, have just not seemed to care that they're the Oilers.

[Dan]

I.

[Chris]

Maybe they don't know. Maybe they don't know they're playing the Oilers. Is that possible? I.

[Dan]

I don't know, dude. Like, this, it's. Listen, it's beer league hockey. And I would say that, Chris, but in game four, down two, one, the Oilers go up to nothing. And in watching that. Was that in the first period, too. It was. I was watching that and I was like, oh, here we go again. Yeah.

[Chris]

Seven. Seven.

[Dan]

And I don't. Don't mean that in a bad way. I just meant for, like, for the Ducks. You're just like this. Oh, yeah. Like just the Oilers. This is what they do. But this. This Ducks team is just drunk, I think, because they. They just don't know what's happening.

[Chris]

There's beers on the bench.

[Dan]

Yeah, Pre beers. They just tie it.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And then the Oilers go up and they tie it again. And I'm. I'm starting to Think, Chris, that this Duckies team is drunk enough that they could just keep doing this. Yeah, they're just gonna keep scoring.

[Chris]

That's what I've learned.

[Dan]

And ultimately, even though it's like, I think Doe Stahl is such a good goaltender, and he's just like, not.

[Chris]

He's been leaky. Dude.

[Dan]

Dude. He gives up three or four goals a game.

[Chris]

And it's the Oilers.

[Dan]

So, like. And they've won three.

[Chris]

Yep.

[Dan]

I'm like, I think they're all just going to keep scoring. And I just think the Duckies are. They could just do it.

[Chris]

Do you go Jari, or do you go Ingram?

[Dan]

I don't think it matters.

[Chris]

It probably doesn't, but what would you do?

[Dan]

Probably Jari.

[Chris]

Really?

[Dan]

Okay, I think I was like, I

[Chris]

might go Ingram, but. Because Jar wasn't bad, but I guess, like, kind of neither was Ingram. Ingram wasn't really seeing him, though, in game three. Maybe that's my argument where I'm like, dude, some of those floaters from the blue line, we just got to locate more. And Jar was maybe locating. So, yeah, maybe you go Jarry. But tough, tough situation. Tough choice. Cannot believe, frankly, Dan. Cannot believe those are the choices.

[Dan]

Cannot believe those.

[Chris]

Where's Jean Luc?

[Dan]

What's. What is nuts, Chris, is the fact that this is three one is crazy.

[Chris]

Is insane.

[Dan]

And you are officially at the point where Ducks. Are you about to lose three straight games? If there is a team. If there is a team in these playoffs that can win three straight games after being down 3:1 and win the series, it is this Oilers team. There is no question about that.

[Chris]

If you look at. Is it only one or. I guess I'll go back in time a little bit. Philly up 31 over Pitt. Anaheim up 31 over Edmonton. Buffalo up 31 over Boston. If you had said, who can come back, it is the Oilers by a mile.

[Dan]

By a mile.

[Chris]

By a mile. I'm like, oh, the Oilers could win and Pittsburgh is in trouble. Boston is in trouble.

[Dan]

And Chris, I'll go even further as to say, take any series and any combination of the winning team versus the losing team. I think the only other one is maybe if Colorado had somehow found themselves down 3:1 to the kings. Yeah, they are that good. That I'm like, but that wouldn't have happened.

[Chris]

Yep.

[Dan]

So truly any. If Dallas was down 3:1, I'm like, no, you can't, because Minnesota's too good. Same with the vice versa situation. This is the only one that I'm like, yeah, the Oilers can Absolutely.

[Chris]

I wonder what the odds are. Like the Oilers to win the series. I wonder how not bad they are.

[Dan]

I'm actually about to hammer that right now. Put 100 bucks right now. Yeah, I bet it's like minus 150, but I'm about to hammer right now. Edmonton winning this year. Yeah.

[Chris]

Like, what are you talking about?

[Dan]

I again, I love this Ducks team. I've loved watching them all season long and I've loved every game this series. It is. I think Dallas, Minnesota is the best series, but this damn near might be the most entertaining. Yeah. Because it is just.

[Chris]

It is.

[Dan]

So we're just watching shinny hockey. It's crazy.

[Chris]

Somebody at the Kings game that we were at on Sunday and listen, I love people finding hockey. I'm all for new hockey fans, sure. But this wasn't quite an airpoc situation. But the people behind me I heard talking about hockey and they were like one of them asked how many periods? And the other person goes, it's three periods. And then if it's tied here, they do. We'll go to a shootout. And I wanted to be like, that's not what's going to happen. But why didn't you know? Because I was just like, you know, I didn't want to bother them.

[Dan]

You didn't want to Oscar from the office them and go, well, actually, yeah.

[Chris]

So no, I did not. But I actually think the Ducks Oilers games should go to a shootout because it is beer. Like, I think they should just go just. We're not even going to do the ice. Just three of you shoot. And then let's be on our very way, man.

[Dan]

I. I mean this, this is. It's minus 160 for the Oilers to win the series. That is what a poll by me saying minus 150. That is unbelievable. Oh my God, dude, that is so funny.

[Chris]

It's fucking crazy, dude. I mean, they're dangerous. They're dangerous. Maverick.

[Dan]

I can't believe that.

[Chris]

So, Dan, who do you got tonight?

[Dan]

The Oilers. They have to win.

[Chris]

They have to win tonight.

[Dan]

They have to win at home.

[Chris]

Because, I mean, dude, we can get into this in later episodes, but the Connor

[Dan]

that.

[Chris]

That is a real situation and it. It only gets hurt by them losing in five. Like if they lose in five to the Ducks.

[Dan]

Oh, I disagree. I think, I think any loss here.

[Chris]

Me too. But it's certainly worth. If you go, we lost in five.

[Dan]

Yeah, it's worse optically, but like, I think. I think that lasts a day or two and then ultimately it's just like, did we lose in the first round to the Ducks?

[Chris]

It's whatever.

[Dan]

Yes. We.

[Chris]

Sure. Okay.

[Dan]

Jennifer just made a great comment. Said a case of audacity of youth. They don't know. They don't know they're supposed to be worried. And they're just playing hockey. And I completely agree.

[Chris]

That's why I said I don't think they know they're playing the Oilers. I don't. They're like, this is an inner squad scrimmage. I've never seen these guys. Who are these guys?

[Dan]

I think a lot of it is Coach Q, too.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I think they've just got a lot of juice here. But I'll tell you what. If. If I am the Ducks, I want to win tonight badly.

[Chris]

I mean, it's the Philly thing, right? Because you lose here, now you go home and you go, gotta have. Gotta have this one.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Because it's weird. We gotta win.

[Dan]

I'm not even gonna get into the men game because I don't even want to. We don't talk road to me. If I'm the Ducks. I want to win tonight badly. Because we have so much mojo.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And it's just like, get out there, score that first goal in Rogers, and suck the air out of that building.

[Chris]

But, dude, there is no such thing because that building is pumped full of new air. And then, dude, they come back. You cannot. You cannot.

[Dan]

You don't think.

[Chris]

You cannot run the Oilers out of the building.

[Dan]

You just can't. I mean, we saw them down three. Oh. Against Florida, and, yeah, they. They showed up every single night, no matter what.

[Chris]

David with his back against the wall, like, holy, dude.

[Dan]

I know. I don't know, man. I just think if the Ducks come out and score first tonight. No dude, there. It'll be a hard. It'll be hard for them to not be like this. Jesus Christ, dude.

[Chris]

They're too much. The oldest McDavid won't let it happen. Not tonight. I agree. He won't let it happen tonight.

[Dan]

Put your mortgage frankly on the Ducks or the Oilers winning tonight. Oh. Sam says Edmonton is plus 325 to win the series. That must have been. That must have been pre.

[Chris]

Pre series.

[Dan]

Oh. Oh, okay. Plus 325 to win the series. That's great action. Get on bet MGM right now and hammer that.

[Chris]

That is actually slightly worse odds than I thought it was going to be. They. They're respecting the Ducks more. They are probably as much as they. But I thought they were going to be like. I thought they're gonna be like Oilers, like.

[Dan]

Plus, I am telling you right now, the second we get off of this, I am putting a hundred dollars on the Oilers to win this series.

[Chris]

Oh, my God. That's great action. Okay, should be a good one. Gonna be a great night.

[Dan]

Should be a great one. Okay, we've got a great slate of games tonight. Couple of possible eliminations tonight, too.

[Chris]

Yep.

[Dan]

So we've got Boston, Buffalo, 4:30pm Pacific Time. Minnesota, Dallas, 5pm Pacific Time. Edmonton, Anaheim, 7pm Pacific Time.

[Chris]

Yeah. Bruins could be golfing. Oilers could be golfing. And here's the scary one, the Bruins, you know, The Sabres are -170 at home to close it out. Oilers -175 at home to keep it going. So all eyes on Boston early.

[Dan]

Unbelievable. All right, that's going to do it. For this live edition of the MC Niners podcast. We'll see you tomorrow. Dial in. Enjoy the game. What am I looking at?

[Chris]

Zachary? Thank you.

[Dan]

Next stream is going to be Friday.

[Chris]

We are recording super late tonight, so there'll be an episode out in the morning. We're recording super late Wednesday night, so there'll be an episode out first thing Thursday morning. So you'll get coverage of all these games. And then Friday livestream. I'm trying to dial up a special guest for you guys. We'll see if I can pull it off.

[Dan]

Come on.

[Chris]

But we'll see you. You'll hear us the next two mornings and you'll see us right back here on Friday.

[Dan]

I'm going to call in.

[Chris]

That'd be gas from my phone from the cockpit. Dan's flying.

[Dan]

It's gonna be great.

[Chris]

Hell, yeah.