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Welcome to the Empty Netters podcast.
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Can you believe what this has become? There's a full 48 hours where I
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felt like I was like literally Superman. Jumbo loves playing Fortnite, so he gets on the stick. Did TR show you the sauna cycle or was that all you did?
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No, I invented that. Almost a year now that I haven't taken a body check. That's kind of nice.
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So we are back. We are horned up and we are going deep. Finished tonight with some chicken fingers and a few Guinnesses.
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Ran into you guys.
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And that's where this pod came to life. Ice is right ready. And we're back with another episode of the Empty Nerds podcast, brought to you by BetMGM. I know you're used to the lives on Monday, but we're recording because everyone's traveling. CP's in Ecuador. He has not been kidnapped yet. But don't worry, folks, there's still time. He might have it happen on the way to the airport. Fingers crossed for whichever outcome you want the most. I'm your host, Dan Powers. The guy who's potentially about to be a drug mule is Chris Powers right there.
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As always, and hopeful.
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I actually organized an unbelievable walk in New York City on Saturday for the Goodreau family. 5K. We hit our goal, which was fantastic. So all these amazing people joined us for a nice 5k walk around New York City. I had no idea where I was going. Everyone put up with me so. Well, there were a bunch of locals or people have lived in NYC forever. So they took charge of the directions. Alice took charge of the directions. It was great.
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You are terrible with directions.
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Oh, my God. So bad. We. We had one amazing friend who was there. Who. She was like, you guys need to put as always on a shirt. And I was like, of course we do. I was like, Isaac, CP's gonna be so pumped to hear that. I don't know how we haven't thought about that. But I was like. I looked at her and I was like, you're a genius. She was like, give me some royalties. And I was like, nope.
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No,
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but it was. It was a great time. Shout out. Blue Haven on Houston. We always rock some at Blue Haven and they always take care of us. It was incredible. But a great, great time, dude. And. And, like, how awesome was that? We smashed our goal.
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That was. That was so sick, dude. The walk looked incredible. How long did you guys stay at the bar?
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A good little while, dude. We were. We were in there. I put in some parlays with my man Met a great dude there. We smashed a bunch of awesome parlays. It was sick. We didn't hit any of them, which was also sick.
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But that's. That's the game, baby.
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That's the game, baby. Just a good crew. We smashed some Guinness, had some Cruisers, and it was just a great time.
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That's incredible.
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Great time. Yeah. Awesome.
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Looked really good. Looked really good. And especially that was game day. Yeah. Yeah, right. The game was that day six. So you finished. Oh, yeah.
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To watch the game, dude. It was special. Special stuff. I have got a. I've got one New York topic that I'd like to get into. And then we will get into Game 6. Buffalo, Montreal. Only game to talk about. Only two teams left that have yet to adm advance to the conference final. All this is going to be is breaking down that game and then what we can expect from tomorrow night tonight by the time you're listening to it for game seven. Yep. Is there any. Any. You always have some wedding shenanigans or some to talk about. Is there anything you want to dish real quick?
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There was some shenanigans, but, you know, not all for the pod, I would say. But it was. It was sick, dude. For those that don't know, there's a military curfew here, which made it. Which made the wedding have to move up. Um, so the. So the ceremony started at 11am 11am so it was like bus leaves at 10 from the hotel, like get up and go. And it actually. I've never done a wedding like that. It was actually so sick because it was just a darty, you know, like you were. By 10 o' clock it was over. Versus normally you're like, you're up all night. So that was cool. The two. My two super cool highlights were. This was an Ecuador thing. I didn't know this, but. Yeah, you don't have like. I was like, kyle, how many people are coming to the wedding? And he was like, no idea. We just say we're having a wedding and then anyone that wants shows up. And so we were in the church, Dan.
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And that's crazy, by the way, dude.
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And this church is gorgeous. Probably built 300 years ago, you know, this really, really pretty Catholic church building. And in there was a courtyard, cement courtyard outside, where kids were just playing soccer. And, you know, it was so apparent why we are not good at soccer as a country because other places have stuff like that. But once the wedding started, the ceremony started. Strangers just started pouring into the church and sitting down and being there because they were like, oh, there's a wedding. So then there's just a ton of people. And then we walked outside when they finally finished and we all walk out. It's like, there's a band. There's like. And dude, none. None employed by the bride and groom. There was just music and people dancing in the streets and everyone throwing flower petals. And I was just like, dude, this is unreal. So hundreds of people there just bopping because it was a wedding. Yeah, that was sick. Another thing was sick was the band because dude, there's a 11 o' clock curfew or you go into jail. So the band goes, hey, we have to stop at 9. We were supposed to stop at 10 because everyone needs to be able to get home by 11. And the band goes, hey, I'm really sorry. We need to stop at 9, not 10, because we need the hour to pack up and then, then get home. Yeah, and. But we were at a hotel, like that's where the, the reception was. And Kyle just goes like this, don't worry, turns his phone around. Just booked the whole band rooms at this hotel. You party till, till curfew. And they go, wow. And then they. And then they stayed at the hotel, which was fucking muddy.
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That is a baller move.
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Dude, it was so sick. It did. You'll appreciate this last thing I'll say. We said on this very program that Emma Clark, sister of the current groom, was the went harder than any bride we'd ever seen. Remember that? We were like, man, Emma was tearing up.
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Oh, dude, she was. She was the biggest rock star I've ever seen in my life.
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You something in the jeans. Dan, you will not believe I have never seen a performance in my life from the father of the groom at any wedding than Jeff Clark. Yeah, Jeff, absolutely going nuclear on the dance floor. Dad, he said at the pool today. He was like, I can barely lift my arms. I was, I was ining so hard. It was incredible. Dude, if he, if he took a break from the dance floor once. And Dan, keep in mind this is a 13 hour wedding. If he took a break from the dance floor one time. I did not see it. I did not see it.
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Yeah, Jeff goes hard, dude. He knows how to pick his battles. And he. I've seen two battles very recently and they were both spectacular. So there you go.
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It was special. Special times.
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How was your speech?
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Oh, it was great. But dude, you would have died because it started. We were in. I don't know what to just call it, but it almost felt like a Greenhouse, there's this beautiful thing, but you know, it's in like this huge glass room or whatever. And yeah, during my. I was only going to go for three minutes. So during my three to four, probably was four, four minute speech. The. The heavens opened up and the gods rained down a firestorm of torrential rain to. And in that building. It was like. So I was just like.
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And he is, I've known him my whole life.
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Just like screaming into the bike. And then the second I finished, the rain stops. And like everyone else, everyone else's speeches is like perfect and lovely. And I was like dope. Did everyone hear that?
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Well, dude, you're too good. That's the problem is like the world knows that you are too fucking elite that they were like, we can't. We have to give everyone else a level playing field. So rain and ungodly firestorm upon him.
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That is so.
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That's how it goes, dude.
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I almost stopped, but I was like, you got to just keep going now. And it was. It was a nightmare. But.
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But it was good.
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It was good.
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Yeah. I mean we like to joke around here. We like to make fun of ourselves. But at the end of the day, you deliver speech better than any man who walks on this planet. So I understand. I. I understand why someone had to try to even things out, dude. And it was the big man himself.
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He said enough, enough.
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Literally, dude, God went like this. Sorry, pal. Like we're gonna have to settle this, dude.
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But it was great.
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That's great, dude. I love to hear it. I. Again, we're gonna jump into these games but the one thing I wanted to discuss. I feel like every time I'm in New York there's got to be some
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new always with thing. Yep.
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I got. Hey, we've been doing a lot of. What do they call it in aa. Making amends, dude. Make an amends.
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Yeah. Oh, here we go. I knew this day was coming. I've been calling this for years.
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Remember how in the last episode we made amends with babies on planes?
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Babies on planes. Yeah.
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The long standing rivalry between me and the parents of babies on planes has been put to bed. Last episode, the gripe that I had with a certain members club in this city, which was warranted.
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Yeah.
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We went to brunch today and they had. We. It was a buffet spread. No menu, no a la carte. They just went sign up. You're paying for for the brunch for the buffet spread.
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Flat, flat price per head.
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It was 10 out of 10. A plus 5 stars. Across the board, unbelievable food and spread. I have never seen a more eclectic spread in my entire life. Name something. Eggs, omelets, A full omelette station.
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Waffles.
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Waffles. Keep going.
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Pancakes, Flapjacks.
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Yep, keep going.
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Fresh, crazy fresh. Fresh fruit. Croissants.
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Yeah. Oh, more fresh, more fresh fruit than you've ever seen in your life. Fresh baked croissants. Yes, keep going and get crazy, dude.
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It granola, yogurt.
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You're not. You're not even getting crazy, dude. This is. This is to be found at a crepe. Crepe station. Keep going. You're focused too much on breakfast.
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Oh, yeah, it was brunch. Good point. Deli meats.
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Yes. There were trade. There was a full sandwich station. There were trays of roll, there was mortadel, there was prosciutt, there was salon, there was Genoa, there was all of that. Keep going.
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Salads.
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Salads, yes. Multiple different ones now. Hey, let me jump in just in case you couldn't think of some of this stuff. Would. Could I interest you potentially in unbelievable Greek spread of kefteres, of stuffed grape leaves, of chicken shawarma, of souvlaki, of baba ganoush, tzatziki and hummus? Yes, I could interest in you in that. Could I also interest you in a fresh seafood platter of shrimp cocktail of fresh oysters with mignonette and with cocktail sauce? Would that be something that you might be interested in? Hey, Chris, would you be interested in a fresh baked ham? Because there was that as well.
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Dude, there is a place. I pray this is still open, but if you go on, what do you want to say?
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I have one more thing to say and it's that the first thing when you entered and saw was an entire table of desserts. And I'm talking like there were tarts, there were full cakes, There was a gelato and sorbet stand I have never seen. It felt like we were dining in Hogwarts and the elves were materializing. Whatever food thought came into your head that food was there. It was fucking unbelievable. I had the most ridiculous plate you've ever seen and I went back for seconds and thirds of the oysters.
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You better fucking you, dude. If you didn't, you didn't get your money's worth. I promise you that. That's awesome.
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Correct. I finished my palate with a tray. I finished my palate. I cleansed my palate, if you will, with a tray of oysters and watermelon feta salad.
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What are you doing?
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It Was fantastic.
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There was a place on the way to Key Biscayne called the Rusty Pelican. And they had an A brunch like this on the weekends. I don't know if I ever took you there, but with Chatskin, I would go every now and then. And it was. It was like this because it was also South Florida dance. It was like. Like crab legs. Like, there was the most insane breakfast and lunch spread. And then also like lobster crab. I was like, what the insane is the greatest brunch of all time?
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Also, if. If anyone listening to this just heard Rusty Pelican and did not immediately think of a weird sex. No liars.
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And also, maybe it's not even called that. And I just called that because that's all. It's. Maybe the name is close to that. And only thing that triggers my brain is Rusty Pelican, so I can't confirm.
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Jesus Christ. Well, it was fantastic. Here's my one New York gripe. Okay.
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Yep. Oh, I thought. I thought we were. I thought that was it.
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That wasn't the gripe, dude. That was a celebration.
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Yeah.
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My gripe is. And we can be quick about this. I only wanted to talk about this because part of me thinks it'd be a great clip to make so we can then get the world to discuss.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Right. This is a topic everyone has heard. Heard about. By the way, there is a glare off the window of the building outside of my window.
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That is. You look like Harvey Two Face right now.
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I look like a Two Face?
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Yeah. You look to me. To me. Yeah.
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It's. It's crazy. Why in the world do people in the tri state area say online instead of in line?
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Oh, it's so insane. Dude, are you on your computer?
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I. That is. That is one thing that is in our arsenal in the debate of why it's obviously not online. But thinking about it, just logistically, you are not on that thing. You're in it.
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But in life, they're saying there's a line on the ground and they are standing on it.
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And they're standing on it. But the line. I believe the line is what you create.
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Yes. Oh, dude, we are right. I'm not def. I'm just trying to put some sense into their brain. But we are right. Like, they. Online is the craziest thing.
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We are definitely right. Like, this is not one of those ones that's like they even have. I understand. Maybe some fucking whack job in the tri state area said it one day and then that's what you do, and that's okay. I like origin stories even if they don't make sense. But I need everyone in the tri state area to. To understand that online makes no sense. There is not a line painted on the ground that you're standing on. The line is what you create when there are bod standing in a queue waiting to get somewhere and you are in it when you become a part of it.
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And it reminds me of Vince Vaughn in the internship when he's like. He's trying to invent Instagram and he's like. And I put them. I put the photos on. On the line. I put them on the line and they're like, online. That is. That is New York people being like. And then I'm. And then I get online and I'm like, in line. You are.
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It's crazy.
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Say online one more time.
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It is absolute crazy behavior. I'm glad we can agree and we can finally put this issue to bed.
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And the comments are going to be incredible on this clip. I promise that.
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Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's mental. Almost as mental as the Buffalo Sabres.
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Wait, let's get into this before that.
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Oh, boy.
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Almost as mental as Vegas losing a second round pick. I have to discuss this.
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I can't even talk about it. Did we not talk about that on the pod?
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No, no, because it's just. It's just happened. This is our first chance.
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Wow.
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I need five minutes.
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That is wild. That, that punishment. And I just. To catch.
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I pull up a little bit though, like just. Yeah, tell the story here or I can.
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To catch people up. Yeah, yeah, go. Or no. Go, go, go, go.
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Basically, the Vegas Golden Knights were extremely mad about the McNabb suspension for the interference hit he delivered to Paling. Now, we discussed that in our live. Dan. I haven't circled back to the rule book, but everyone in the live was saying that the literal rule is if someone commits a major interference penalty and that person is hurt, you get ejected. And I guess that's fine. I guess Vegas people aren't bad about that. They're mad about the suspension that followed, which I think you and I. Or no, you said you. That he was going to get one. You were like, he's going to get one. Because if you get tossed, you basically get one. But I was like, who knows? And I felt like he shouldn't be suspended. I can't remember what you said, but the Vegas crew team is so pissed that he was suspended that they were like, okay, we're basically not going to make the R locker room available to media after after the game six win. And they were, according to Elliot Friedman, they were furious over the nav suspension which led to all the post game antics. And then the after the NHL said, listen you. They claim that there were previous warnings on media regulations to this Vegas team and because they as a penal for not letting them in after game six. That and for Torrella skipping the media availability that Torts himself is fined $100,000 and Vegas forfeits a 2026 second round pick because the press couldn't talk to the team after game six.
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Yeah, a couple things I'll say is they not allegedly Vegas has done this before and we are big time Vegas supporters because I think there's too much unnecessary Vegas hate around random fans in the league. But there is no doubt that Vegas does a lot of, you know, they're, they're wind up merchants and they, they wind people up a lot. And that's great. Sometimes it'll get you people whacked. And I think that they deserve PP wax occasionally. I said, I understand in the CBA there's media stuff that you have to do. I. I loved dude. I put this on the story and I tweeted. I was like, this is insane. And there was like two people that were like, you literally have a podcast. And I was like, dude, catch me in the locker room after games. You cannot. I am not fucking. I'm not a journo, dude. And also, there's a difference between journos and journalists. If you don't understand that, do some research and journos can take a hike. Journos suck. You all know who you are. Journalists are cool people who the players and coaches appreciate. But I think a PP whack is necessary sometimes. Which is why I was cool with the fine, fine torts. That's great. A second round pick for a team that I don't believe has a first round pick is crazy work. Like, I was like, holy shit. Now a lot of people who hate Vegas who are like, fuck them, they deserve this. They either. I thought there were some great points made where people were like, dude, if you don't have actual penalties, nothing changes to that. I say, yeah, yeah, like the guy in Titanic. Because that is true. And I've said to you multiple times, things like steroids in the mlb. I'm like, if you want to actually ban steroids, make it a lifetime ban. The first time someone gets popped, it's going to be dramatic. It's going to be crazy news when you're like, so and so is Aaron Judge is banned from the mlb. Allegedly.
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Allegedly.
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That would be crazy. But it will make. Then people go, oh, fuck me, I should probably stop doing steroids if that. If they're real about this, they're actually going to do it. So I think that that's a good point for me, though. This is a. Just stick with the fine and get fucking crazy with the fines, baby. I really don't appreciate. Has Torts made a penny or two in his career? No doubt, dude. Rich people don't like losing money.
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Correct.
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It's. There's one thing. There's. There's a difference between spending money and losing money. Rich people will spend money for sure. And you might be out here saying 100k means nothing to John Tortorella. I, I assure you, 100k means a lot to anyone if it's being taken from you. And you're not going to make the habit of continuously losing 100k. And that's where I'm like, get crazy, dude. I. I fully support league and Gary. You know, I've said a million times, Gary's the best commissioner in the world. And he, he has my stamp of approval to go like this. Next time Torch does this dude, find him 500K. See what happens.
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Find him a million dollars.
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Find him a million bucks, dude. You want to make it 2? Let's go up to 2 million.
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Bang. Keep.
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Keep at it, pal. You want to go up to 5? I'll give it to you. I am into that to, to me one day. And I know a lot of people are going, it wasn't just one day they've done this. But the thing that bothered me, Chris, was they shut the locker room door. They had one player outside of the locker room doing media. They had two players go to the podium. And then Torch didn't speak. And I'm kind of like, dude, is that not enough? That's not taking food off people's plates. Everyone who's going, these journalists have a job to do. They can still write. Torch Marner.
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And you quote the guys that were talking. Yes.
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Did Torts take their fucking laptops away also, you know, it's a story fucking rip into Torts about not doing media. People are going to read that article too. And I get it. You can't do it every day. And if you let teams get away with this, then every team might do it, and then that's a problem, I guess. Like, I, I got into it with one guy on Twitter where he was like, this is what Fans pay for. And I was like, you think bands pay for fucking post game interviews? I. It was making my. Dude, if I never saw a post game interview again, you think I would stop watching hockey? I didn't really not take.
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But.
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But it's. That's, you know, all fair. Like, if that's how he feels, I'm like, okay, you. You love that stuff. I just don't think this thing is going to stop or. Or make. If there's no punishment, every team in the world is going to do this. I understand it's in the cba. So I do think that there should be a penalty. I just think a second round pick was a little rich. That's all I'm saying.
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Dan. I. To. My two cents is this. I'm with you on the fines. And. And frankly, it's the head coach's call. Right. And I think that Torch would say that. He was like, that was my decision. That's what I wanted to do. So, yes. Find the head coaches out the ass. If you're really that mad about this. I can't believe people are that mad about this. But if it's in the CBA and blah, blah, blah, fine, find. Find the coaches out of the ass. But to the person that said to you, if there aren't real penalties, then these things persist. Dude, draft picks, they're right. But it should be the penalties should fit the crime. If a team is tampering with free agents, if a team is manipulated, like cheating on, lying about the salary cap or whatever. Lying about injury reports. Yes, fine. Draft picks. I agree. Murder people for stuff that's actually bad for business.
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Yeah.
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Stealing a draft pick because second round, only two people. Only three people spoke to media.
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A second round?
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What? Like, are you insane?
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Dude?
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I'm trying to build a franchise. This is random bites. Sound bites after a playoff game. That's a second. I'm actually, like, appalled by that. And maybe it's in the. Maybe it's in the agreement where this is the penalty. But, like, that is. That is nuts behavior.
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No, I thought. I thought it was hefty. I thought it was hefty. But hey, it's great drama. I love. Sure is great drama. The only other thing on this I want to talk about. And we talked about it last year when Paul Maurice didn't go through the handshake. Yep. I. My take on that is. I think it's weird. And also, I personally, I have not talked to Torts. I don't know. And Torts is obviously not to my Knowledge made a statement about this. When Torch doesn't go through the handshake line, he's doing what Maurice did last year. From what I understand where he's going, the coaches shouldn't be a part of that. That's a moment for the players to show respect to each other. I'm not making about me. There are a lot of people who hate that. I think there's a lot of people who misconstrue that as disrespectful, when in fact I believe whether it right or wrong, guys like Torts and Pomo are going, I'm trying to show the utmost respect to those guys.
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Yep.
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So, so I, I think I reject the fans who are going, it's disrespectful just because I think they are going, no, I'm trying to be respectful. I personally disagree with it because I, I, I love it if I'm, if I'm on the losing team. I really like talking to the opposing coach. I like that handshake moment and I think a lot of players do too. So I don't understand the thought process that those coaches do, but I don't think that there's any mal intent behind it.
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Oh, dude, I'm still with you. And, and like I said, you're, you're speculating. So am I. But that's my, that's my takeaway too. But you best believe it'll be going through. He'll be open the doors to media and going through handshake lines now. Jesus Christ.
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Yeah, but dude, again, I'll just reiterate league. Yak those, Yak those national money finds up. Dude, I think that. Cuz that would be great drama. And I'll tell you what, dude, you want to teach someone a lesson, Take more money out, they pour. And, and I think that that is the, A punishment that fits the crime.
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We're not going to spend too much time on this game, but obviously we got to dive on into it. And the first thing I'll say, Chris, is reports of the Sabres death were drastically exaggerated. I declared them dead. I think I have to rescind the declaration. And I want to be very clear. I did say I think they can and will win game six. But now any Momo that Montreal had is gone. I think it doesn't.
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That.
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That doesn't mean Montreal doesn't have Momo. But the Momo that we thought they had, I do think is gone. Gone.
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But how could you think that they could go home up 3, 2 and lose to Buffalo in any fashion and still be like, we're good. We have all the Momo. Like, what Law center would have been
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good for them because they have not lost two games in a row still. Or wait, was that just two in a row?
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No, they won game five.
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Yeah. They won game five.
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Yeah.
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They've still not lost two games in a row. They've been good in Buffalo. In my mind, I was like, buffalo fights, which I think they're gonna. And they. They steal a game in Montreal. I was like, I think Montreal has the juice to come get a win in Buff Low. But they got rinsed after being all over them, dude.
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I mean, I'll tell you what, buddy. The. How many times have we seen Buffalo score in. In a minute, right? And I always say, you start a road game hot. Lindy Ruff's going. Hey, guys. The only way to take the Bell center crowd out of it is to get an early goal. Buffalo scores in the first minute every game. And then they don't care. Then Montreal goes, you guys stink. And we don't give a. And Darlene, nasty goal. And also slap. I'm so my. My poor man. And you know what? It's all fair because Lane absolutely walked someone earlier this series in a similar spot. But that. That slap. I. God bless him for going down to try to block the shot, but just gets absolutely dog walked by Darlene forehand back in under the bar. 20 seconds in. Quick change. A hey slap. Quick change. That's one of those. Sorry.
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It's unbelievable.
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So Darling scores, and then Dan, Montreal pumps in three at home in the Bell Center. This felt like the most typical. Oh, Buffalo, you are so dead, Buffalo. In fact, Dan, you declared them dead after game five. They weren't. They were alive and thriving compared to how they were down 30 in the first or, sorry, 31 in the first period. When that shorty went in, I was like, I cannot believe the Sabres are going to finish this game. I give them credit for having enough integrity to not just take the fucking plane home in the locker room, take the bus home, I know you don't deserve a plane. I was like, this is a fucking bloodbath. What a joke. So, yeah, man, like, that's a Macros take, but I just cannot fathom that. The Montreal Canadiens were up 32 in a series returning home to the Bell center and went up 31 in the first period and then got absolutely murdered.
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The three one was crazy work. And when Zucker made it three two, I was like, fuck. And we knew a new hook goal was coming. It actually didn't. Which means we doubled down on the anytime goal score in game seven, win or lose. But Zucker scores and makes it three two. And I was like, one of the
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most necessary goals ever. Yeah.
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Oh, my God. And I was like, we'll fight Buffalo. Here you go. But, like, what do we. Is it enough? How we doing here? How we feeling? And then that second period starts and the fucking doors are blown off the hinges and, dude, like, Benson score. What did Benson score a minute into the second?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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So it's like you get a Benson goal, and then Quinn scores on the peeper. And was it his first or second? Was that. Was that up in the attic roof job delivered from Antarctica on Santa's sleigh? That was insane.
B
But second one was foolish. Quit.
A
Quinn scores a peeper. Now you got the lead. And it was like, dude, the life was sucked out of that building. And that. That's what I mean by the momentum. I'm watching that game, and for me, personally, I'm not there. I'm watching like a little Lord Fauntleroy on my couch with a pizza balancing on my belly and a glass of wine in my hand. I don't know what the vibes are there, but from the tv, I was thinking. I was. I was looking at it, seeing the body language of the players, seeing the body language of the benchmark, I was like, oh, they're. Whatever juice they had seems to have spilled because Buffalo is vibing. And I would like to look no further than one. El Capitan Rasmus Dahleen, who I declared today will retire as one of the greatest Swedes in the history of the NHL.
B
Ooh, good take.
A
About that.
B
Good take, good take.
A
Five goal, a goal and five points in an elimination game. First elimination game of his playoff career. That is how as the captain of this team, you step the fuck up and answer the bell.
B
Yeah, man. In. In a nation that has produced some incredible NHL defensemen, that is high praise. But he's certainly on that path.
A
Right.
B
You know, he's got to win some hardware for sure to start getting in those conversations, actually. But he's. But he's on the path. I will give you that. Absolutely.
A
I mean, it's like, I, I, I, I, I love this guy. I, I've said it my whole fucking life, but we want to talk about this kid. Dude, let's run down his career so far. 82 from rookie year. 82 games, 44 points, 59 games, 40 points, 56 games, 23 points, 80 games, 53 points, 78 games, 73 points, 81 games, 59 points, 73 games, 68 points this year. 77 games, 74 points, 19 goals this year. He scored 20 in. In the past in his career. He's wearing the sea for Buffalo. He's the most fucking mentally and emotionally tough fucking guy in the world who's been through so much. He always fucking says the right things. And through all the bullshit, through all the fucking dinkus, dingleberry buffoons talking shit online, ourselves included, occasionally, they fucking battle. And he has rallied these troops. And now they're in game seven in round two against a gritty fucking Montreal won an elimination game in the Bell center, where he scored the first goal and had five points. That guy is a certified dog.
B
Absolutely, man. And we're gonna. I have some goalie talk I want to get into you later, but I could not believe, dude, because I think you were. Well, we didn't get a chance to talk before the game, but I would say lion was pretty much the only, Only call to start this game. So you're Buffalo. You go, y. Got to go Lion. And then bang. Three goals on four shots. And buddy the fucking wi fi clapper with a little bit of a knuckle puck. But that is like, literally no one in front of you. Just, like, got a to the ball. Like, that's got a smalls in the outfield, pal. Close your eyes. It's going right in. And then please catch it. Please catch it. The demidoff1d was fucking unstoppable and a snip job. And actually, that's scary that he's finally scoring now. But then the Evan shorthander, Dan, is that thing that you keep saying, like, right here, you know, like, that. I know people are shooting there, but I'm like, you have to save this dude. So I could not. But I completely supported the Yank there. I don't know what you thought, but I'm thinking now upl's coming in. Like, you are beyond.
A
And then it was funny, right? Because. Yeah, it was funny because you have Dobesh who lets in three or four, and they keep them in and win.
B
Yeah.
A
There's a part of me that was like, dude, keep them in.
B
You got them right where you want them.
A
Yeah. And, well, you know what's tough is. I mean, listen, the Yank worked so well. The question now is like, okay, I guess it's UPL's net in game seven. Like, what a nightmare for Buffalo.
B
That's what I wanted to ask you. Like, it has to be right. You have to go upl. But I'm like, this is a tragedy.
A
It's weird. We talked to some Buffalo fans, and they've said they felt more comfortable with lion in that all season, and interesting, you know, like, he obviously. You know, he changed the tides a little bit in the Boston Series, and he was good to start here. But I think overall, you'd have to say he's been unreliable in this series, and I'm not entirely sure UPL has been reliable. So I genuinely think it's, like, a significant question, and I don't know that one or the other is correct, which is kind of rattling to me. I think you would. I would borderline go analytics here. I would look at the two of them and be like, who has been better at home? Who has been better after a loss? You know, it's like, this is. Yeah, yeah. And you know what? This is also one of those situations where you have an internal conversation, you ask the goalie coach, you maybe even like, if I'm Lindy, dude, I would not be above snagging Darlene and being.
B
I was just about to say that. Yep.
A
You know. You know, coach to player, captain, you know, who. Are you guys feeling more confident in standing in Front of, like, I wouldn't, I wouldn't scoff at doing that. Like, sometimes you got to talk to the room, but it's definitely a big question for them. But going back to my momentum thing, it is. Listen, dude, an 83 win in the Bell center in an elimination game, if there is a pendulum swing, it's back towards Buffalo. And now you're playing in Buffalo. And you, if you're Buffalo, you definitely want to go. We've, we're, we have a losing record in this series at home. We can't have that. Like, well, let's even shit up and let's fucking win and let's go play the fucking Canes.
B
Yeah. Oh, my God, dude. Totally correct. And then. Well, actually, before we get into the madness of the turnaround, let's take an ad break and we'll be right back.
A
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A
all right, we are back. We are getting back into this game and all of the vibes going on in Buffalo and in Montreal. Do you have much more to talk about this game? Because I'd like to spend the rest of this episode just talking about game seven, if that's okay.
B
Cool. I have a few talking points that are kind of. It's almost like it lives both. So I'll just take you through what I wanted to say. Yeah, the at three three. Because you. You mentioned Benson ties it immediately, which is such a big goal to start the second. And it's like, oh, this is so good at 3:3. And then also I believe at 5:3, I think Alex Tuck is in alone twice. And the 5:3 was when he came out of the penalty box and they sprung him and he had a breakaway. But the other one is at three three and dovish stones, both of them. And man, we've talked about a lot how tough of a series he's having and. And we. We both know firsthand how much he cares and. And would love this Buffalo.
A
And I was, dude, can I be real, real quick? Do you think this is hurting his. Do you think this is hurting his offseason number 1,000%.
B
Hugh. Shout out. Hugh. Hugh texted us that he was like, alex Tuck has lost so much money from this playoff season. I agree.
A
Especially if they lose, bro. Like, he's like, I think he's a dash one in that game. Like, they scored eight goals and he was a dash one still.
B
Like, dude, does he, did he get on the score sheet at least? I think he had no points going into, like, no points, dude, not even saying goals. I'm like, bro, what are you doing? And he's. And that's what I mean, where I'm just like, holy, two breakaways. Let me see, let me see. Yeah, none here, dude. Two breakaways and you just, as a guy is gifted at scoring a sim, you just have to see one of those go in. Even, even the 5, 3, 1, which didn't even matter. It's just like, you just, you have to score, dude.
A
We also know Tucky, you. I guarantee he is battling something insane. Yeah, I, I'm telling you that when that injury report comes out, whenever they lose, whether it be or win, or win the cup, whether it be after the Cup, I guarantee he's got like three broken ribs and a fractured foot or something. I, I just knowing Tuck in, the way he plays and how hard he plays and how much he cares, he's got to be dealing with something crazy.
B
This must be. Be killing him. And, and his counterpart, Dan Tage, has had such an interesting playoffs because all his goals are like, I'm so glad
A
you brought that up. Does he have like three goals in three straight games? And they're all like, they're ricochets or empty nets and they're like, oh, dude.
B
Like, Tage is third in the playoffs in points. And I'm like, he is pool shotting goals in, dude. Like, this is insane. And I guess, who cares? But I'm kind of like, he must be going, I'm not playing well, you know, or I'm not playing well.
A
Yeah, but you know, it's like, it is one of those things we always talk about. It's like sometimes you just got to see them go in and like, empty net goals are super valuable in that regard. In sometimes you see one go in, you see your name on the score sheet. It's like if Tage hits a clap bomb in game seven, that goes in, there's no doubt that part of that is going to come from the vibes of being like, dude, I've got, I'm on a streak. Like, you know, it's like, if you gotta doesn't, you know, we always say it doesn't matter how they go in. You got a scoring touch, you got a scoring touch, but it is a Funny run that he's on for sure.
B
Oh, it's insane. The next thing I have for you, and this is hilarious, but the. Okay, so if you remember this play, a Habs defenseman like fell down or stumbled with the puck. I can't remember. They're carrying it out of the zone and they literally slip and lose the puck. Zach Benson jumps past them for a. For a clear breakaway. He gets slashed immediately and they go penalty. And on this power play is when Quinn put that one under the bar, which was nasty, dude. Disgusting. This playoffs has been so funny to me because all of. After having not cared about it for every second of my entire existence distance, I am now the penalty shot police. And it is all I care about. In fact, every game, all I'm doing is watching for these things. And dude, I have an interesting rule question for you because I want your take on this.
A
Okay.
B
The way we interpret you and I interpret a penalty shot is if a forward is behind the defense on a clear breakaway in alone, apparently from under the dock with a scoring opportunity and they get a penalty committed against them. It is a penalty shot. So in the NBA, Dan, if I am. Yeah. And you're not past me, but I just. But the ball is past me or whatever and I just hit you. They go essentially the NBA's version of penalty shot. Because they go, dude, I know you were behind him, but like, whatever. Clear path foul. What happened to Benson on that play is directly a clear path foul. Like the Habs go like this. Oh, he has a. The puck is just sitting on the blue line. He has a clear button. So they just go slash. And the NHL goes two minutes for slashing. And I'm like, that's a penalty shot, dude. He is on a clear breakaway like you are. You are going this way. He's going this way alone. And you just go whack. And I'm like, we need a rule change. That is a clear path foul. You get a penalty shot.
A
I. I agree. That's one I'd love to bring to Gary. Like, I think it's because, you know the argument. Like, sometimes people would be like this. Well, you know, he was going to get caught. And I'm like, you don't know that. At the end of the day, he had a clear path. He was behind the defense as with the puck. Penalty shot. I'm with you.
B
Yeah, I love that, dude.
A
I love that.
B
More penalty shots, dude. I'm so, I'm so passionate about this now. This is. I'm going to take this this will be my summer project. Define read.
A
I love it.
B
Penalty shot. I'm glad you're in on that. Okay. And then my last thing, this will transition us right into Game 7. Do best, dude. The Quinn's first goal is no screen at all. And I think that was to make it 4:3. So it's already 3:3. And Dobus is literally sitting there and
A
just misses Quinn's first peeper. Got the lead. That's right.
B
Yeah. And I'm like. And even. Even Ray on the broadcast was like, I literally have no idea how Dovish doesn't catch this puck. Like he. It's like he just missed it. And one thing, hilariously, Fowler also gave up a goal in the one minute he was in. But my question to you is, obviously they can't do a Swayman thing that we talked about a while ago. Or actually, that wasn't on the pod. That was after recording. But you remember when the Bruins just put in sway for Game 7 that one time, they're like, here you go.
A
Yes.
B
Our life's on the line. It's insane. It's like, obviously the Habs can't do that with Fowler. But my one worry if you're the halves is Dovish has been seeing a lot of pucks. I was kind of saying, oh, you should have yanked them after he was up three one or after you give up three quick wins in game five, which I know they won, but I was like, I would have yanked him there and then. Now he gets lit up in this game and you finally yank him. And I'm like, jesus, dude. Like, maybe you. You wrote him too hard and now you're in trouble. Game seven. That's my only fear. If I'm the Habs.
A
I hear you, dude. It's. I mean, listen, this is what I was talking about. The Mojo and the vibes. It's like all the momentum, it's kind of washed now. And on the one point, you could say this almost any time in a Game 7, unless there's crazy extenuating circumstances like 2010 Bruins, Philly, when it's like, Krechi gets hurt and. Yeah, who was it? Gagne came back and it's.
B
Yeah. Yeah.
A
Yes. This is very different.
B
Two players.
A
This is one. Yeah, it's a two player swing. This is one where it's like, I think both teams go, it's okay. It's one game. It, like, forget everything else. Montreal definitely go again. Barring extenuating circumstances, like an injury or something else going on. You're starting Doves for sure. You just go in with your teams and you go. It's one fucking game, guys. Forget everything. Forget where we're playing. Here we go. You have to feel that way, but if you are the opposing team, you have to use everything that you can. So if you're Buffalo, you've got to be in that locker room being like, we're getting to it. Him. We are getting to Doash. Dude, just throw everything at the net. Like, remember the goals that went in. Test him in every single way. That is what you got to do. And if I'm either of these teams, I am winning the shot battle in this game, dude. I think that is so important in this game. 7. And there's also something I'll say. Saw a stat here. I think it's in. It's Caulfield, Slafkovsky and Demidov in 39 combined playoff games. These four, because all three of them. All three of their games together. In 39 games, they have 25 points. Four of those combines combined.
B
Yeah. Wow.
A
Four of those points are even strength. Oh, if you are Buffalo. And I want to shout this person out. Fuck. Kneeler at kneeler on. On Twitter EA Sports Design Council guy. Fucking rights, Neil.
B
Hell, yeah.
A
Great, great stat. Poll.
B
And he.
A
He mentioned this, and I completely agree. If you are Buffalo, you've got to play disciplined in this game. Do not give this team power plays. Because when you look at that, three of their most important forwards probably. I mean, three of their top four forwards, obviously, right? You put Zuke in there, too.
B
Dude.
A
Do not give them a chance like that is. You look at those three guys, how important they are. They're only scoring on the power play. Take that away. Take that away. And that is a massive, massive advantage for you in this game. Play disciplined. If you're Buffalo, you've got. You've got to fucking believe in that. And if you're Montreal, dude, the goalie situation is your holy grail. Like, get the first goal in this game, no doubt about it, and step on the gas the second after you do it. Who did we just see blow that lead and blow the game? It's like it was Buffalo. Like, you know, do do that and then don't do what they did and sit back, fucking dump the bucket right after that. If you can get the first goals, Montreal. That is huge, Dan.
B
I actually got to push back here a little bit because I think you. You got. It is the holy grail, but you got to get the first goal, but then not push the gas because if you do dump the bucket, he will get yanked and then the other guy will go in and fuck you. So you have to score. You once. You score fast, you go. You go. We got a upl stinker. Everybody calm down. Wait, wait. We got a upl stinker. We will score whenever we want. Just wait till it's too late.
A
Score at a reasonable pace. Yes. Like reasonable decisions, dude.
B
100. If Montreal scores early. Dude, I'm telling you, I'm like, calm down. Dump it in. No one shoot again till the second period because then we can rain holy hell onto them and it will be fine and it will be too late to pull it him. But if they score early in the first, he's getting yanked and then they will get by lion. I'm pausing. Are you.
A
Are you hammering the over in this game?
B
Yes. This might be 20 to 19. Both of these goalies, all three of these goalies are dead men. Walking dead. It's ridiculous. They will not stop another puck.
A
I like. It's just. There's no way this is going to be a goalie shootout. Like it just. This is it. You have to hammer over this game. I was talking to a buddy and he was like. Or it was Carlson. He was like, dude, my fucking aeth over the first period. Insane.
B
Dude. Max was on the over here too on Saturday.
A
Really?
B
He was like, oh my God, dude, it's. It's done. And I. He also said to me too, because. And I want. I want your thoughts on this, Dan. Buffalo 5 and 1 on the road this year, playing at two tough barns. Montreal tougher than Boston. But I would say two tough barns, five and one on the road and two and four at home, which I would argue should be one and five after game one against Boston.
A
I know you gotta. You gotta figure like what. What do the Buffalo fans need to do here?
B
Let's say he goes, imagine being a poor person from Buffalo. Not. Not literally poor like the poor people of Buffalo who are going, man, I am spending my hard earned money that to go to a Buffalo Savers home playoff game which we haven't had in two decades. And we cannot catch a win to save our fucking lives. So yes, dude, what do they need to do to turn this around?
A
I think they don't go, dude, leave key bank empty. Only let. Only let Habs fans in. Let the Habs fans fill it so it feels like it's a bell center game.
B
Dan, would this be the sickest move of all time? This would be the. On the level of Nathan Horton pouring Boston Garden ice onto the Canucks rink. What if the Buffalo Sabers gave out at the door free tabs tabs shirts to be like, yeah, wear these.
A
And it's a road where wear red shirts. Guys, wear your Buffalo sabers gear, but wear red shirts over them. So your. Your sabers. Your sabers gear is against your heart, dude. But wear a red shirt over it. Drown the key bank in red and. And make the boys on the ice be like, dude, this is great. We're just playing in belt. We're playing on the road, dude.
B
This would be instead. This would be inspired. If the Sabers fan.
A
I agree.
B
And all red make the field, boys. Hey boys, don't worry you're on the road road. Don't worry about us. You're. It's a road game and then they get the job. Holy.
A
I. I hope the boys are staying in a hotel tonight. I hope they're staying in Buffalo's finest. Hope they're staying in Buffalo's finest Marriott. I also think, dude, that's. That's it, dude. Road mentality. So if you're Sabers fans, I need this. I need crazy shows outside the rink because they've got their watch party situation. Pack that place. And I think you bring some pooter. I think you eat some poutine out there and you feel like you're in Montreal. Get you guys get in. Road mentality. It's road mentality is going to win this game for Buffalo. I think.
B
I love it, dude. I couldn't be more on board. And to go back to your penalty thing, dude, the Sabers 4 for 6 on the power play in Game 6. Ridiculous. Montreal's got to be saying the same thing. Stay out of the box. This is one of those ones. Dan. I'm with you. Give me Boston, Tampa, Game 7, 2011. No power, no penalties. Just let them go, boss. Buffalo, Montreal, game seven. For all the marbles. Just let them play.
A
Yeah, but not one nothing. Five, four.
B
Yeah. Five. Five, four. Five, four. Minimum penalties. But five on five the whole time.
A
Let them play five on five the whole time. Five, four. Game. Dude, it's gonna be great.
B
I love it.
A
I love it too. I think that's it, dude. Great coming. Great game tonight. Let's all lock in on a Monday night and enjoy some goddamn hockey. It's gonna be fantastic. That's gonna do it for us. You all know where to find us. You know how to subscribe, follow, make sure you do it. Spread it around again. So much love to everyone who signed up for the Goodreau family. 5K. It seriously means the world to us. It means the world to the Goudreau family. We hit our number. That was so fun. And everyone who came out supported and walked with me. I love you. Everyone who did it virtually. We love you just as much. C.P. you're a legend. You're the man. You're a beast. Almost as much as me. You love you all. We'll see you next episode. Cp Tell them what to do to get through their Monday skate hard.
Empty Netters Podcast
Episode: The Sabres Shock The Bell Center And Force A Game 7
Date: May 18, 2026
Host: Almost Friday Media
This episode of the Empty Netters Podcast centers on an electric playoff series between the Buffalo Sabres and the Montreal Canadiens. The Sabres force a decisive Game 7 in dramatic fashion, stunning the Habs at home in Montreal’s Bell Center. The hosts—brothers with beer league bona fides—deliver their signature banter and sharp analysis, breaking down Game 6, dissecting the ongoing drama around the Vegas Golden Knights’ penalty, and offering irreverent takes on life, brunch spreads, and penalty shot rules. The episode is packed with humor, inside hockey insight, memorable rants, and predictions for Game 7.
The hosts blend diehard fandom, former-player insight, and shoot-the-shit humor. Their tone is irreverent, sarcastic, family-style; they're just as likely to deliver a wild brunch review or roast each other as break down defensive pairings.
Last Word:
“Great game tonight. Let’s all lock in and enjoy some goddamn hockey.” (53:06, Dan)
Summary: This episode captures the absurdity and excitement of the NHL playoffs through the Empty Netters’ unique blend of brotherly banter and hockey nerd analysis. From brunch to bizarre local lingo, from massive league penalties to Game 7 mentalities, it’s a must-listen for fans who crave both sharp hockey talk and the best locker room stories. The recommendation for Game 7: expect chaos, lots of goals, and savor playoff hockey at its wildest.