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A
Oh, God. Holy ice is ready. Welcome back to another Empty netters live. I don't even know where Dan is. I'm here and I am not hurting. I'm just kidding. I feel incredible. How about that? What a switcheroo. We are back. Holy hell. And also, I cannot believe. I cannot believe I'm sitting here today talking about two eliminations because I feel robbed, I feel absolutely robbed of two game sevens. I was literally thinking to myself, we might get like six game sevens in the first round. And that was too much to ask, but it's still okay because, my God, a couple hockey games happened last night. Those were playoffs. Those were playoff games. Those were playoff fucking games last night. Also, somebody killed me in this chat. Oh, actually, I'm not good at the intros. We got everybody on the sticks today. Who can they see? Everyone.
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B
Yeah, switch, we're here. Hello, Zach.
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A
We got Dr. Watkins, we got Nate, we got Liz and listen, I don't know if you can see them. Yeah, you can. All the people that wonder. Oh, my God, how are those thumbnails? So sick. The two people in the back. Stand up for the people in the back. That's incredible. Boom, there they are. That's how you get all that madness. Dan is. Dan is in, I think South Carolina already. And. And we're going to try to get him in here via the phone. He's probably. He's probably got 10. Lucy's in on the fucking golf course. He's out of control. And somebody said this in the chat, which killed me, that Chris is. Chris is a phone on 1%. And that is. That is correct. That is absolutely, absolutely correct. Okay. Do they have audio? I've got a couple mics not on. Hold on. Let me know if you guys can hear me. But we can we. Oh, oh, you know what? Somebody said this. I'm gonna get in the chat here if, if people can hear me.
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B
Yeah, use. Yeah, use that other mic. Use the one you normally use.
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A
Hold on.
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B
Try that. See if you can reach it. Wretch it over to you.
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A
What about this one? Can people hear this one? Oh, my God, we are back. I knew it. I knew it, I knew it, I knew it. Okay, so listen.
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C
What.
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A
Okay, everyone's back.
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C
We're good.
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A
We have a couple insane games. I have a really fun guest that's going to come on and join and talk about the Minnesota series. The Minnesota win. Holy hell. How about that, wild fans? It's been, what, fucking 10 years? Jesus Christ. First round. I wrote this down. First eight in a Row of first round losses for the Wild when they've made playoffs. Holy shit. Dan. Dan is in South Carolina, I think on a golf course somewhere. We're going to try to get him on the phone. All kinds of action last night. All right. I think the volume's good. It says echoey, but we might have to just deal with echoey. That's okay. Unless this is happening.
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B
Just bring. We can bring down some of the other mics.
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A
Yeah, yeah.
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B
How about that? We'll bring them down.
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A
We're going to keep tweaking the audio as we go. This is going to be incredible. We are fucking live and two people are golf. And two. Well, Dan's golf and do. But two teams are golfing. I can't believe it. Okay, I want to hear from the chat. All episode audios in synced. I think we're good. I think we're good. I keep talking in the chat if there's any issues, but I think you let us know.
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B
Chat.
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A
Let us know. Let us know. So get it together, Chris. We're not working on.
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B
Listen, he's not. He's not hungover. We're hungover.
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A
Fucking shitter. Beer and calm down. It's Friday morning. Enjoy yourself. It's going to be a great weekend of hockey. We're going to have some great games tonight. I am so fucking fired.
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B
I can't believe the Ducks. I'm, like, shocked.
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A
I'm in. I am in absolute.
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B
But should we not be that shocked, though?
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A
We shouldn't be. But. But we should be. But here's the thing. We shouldn't be, but we should be. And it's because playoffs are different. Like, the Ducks were better than the Oilers all year, but it's insane that the Oilers did not have any playoff juice. We're going to get to it. We're going to get to it. Let me text my first special guest.
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B
We have special guests.
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A
And this. We think this feels good, right? We can go. Yeah. Yeah.
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B
Okay. Hold on. We just had. The mics were not linked up.
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A
Correct. Oh, let me put my headphones on. Let me put the headphones on.
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B
We got some guests coming.
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A
So I can hear. So I can hear. Special guests.
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B
It's gonna be. Which one? Eva.
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A
Yeah. And can I actually, I can hear myself just fine. I'm loud enough. Are you kidding me? I'm always loud enough. Here we go. All right. Bang. She's gonna join as soon as she does. All right, so, people, we're starting with Dallas, Minnesota. I saw someone in the chat just say their cup pick got bounced. I don't blame you.
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D
I.
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A
And listen, I. Because. Oh, actually, I don't know if I've said this in my bracket. In the Empty Netters challenge, I had Minnesota Boston in the final. Well, I said. I just said. I just said, you can click. So I'm sure she'll be. She'll be in any second. I picked a Minnesota Boston final because I was like, it felt like a Herb Brooks 1980 year. Yes. God. Okay, you, Eva talk. Let me see if I can hear you in these headphones.
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D
Okay.
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A
Oh, yeah. Bing. There it is. God. Okay.
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C
Holy hell.
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A
Eva Erickson. Welcome to the Empty Netters live. And it is a good day to be a Wild fan.
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D
Oh, absolutely. I'm so excited.
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A
Holy smokes. Okay, where were you watching? What were you like? Because obviously it's game six, home game. Did you. Were you there or were you getting dialed at home?
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B
What was the plan?
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D
I was at home here in Providence. I was at game five, five in Dallas. So I, like, that was my trip. I went to the away game, which was electric to see a wild win, but of course, seeing it in the opposing rank isn't as fun, you know, So I got to go to one in St. Paul, but I was just home and I was going crazy. Like, my roommates were like going to bed and I'm like screaming in my living room, dude.
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A
Well, first of all, I think you were the difference in a pivotal game five, which, which. Which gave you the chance to win it at home. And I need everybody to know I texted Eva yesterday because we went to Kings Wild January 3rd or something, right? Because we were at Winter Classic. And then we come back and outside we're walking into the rink and a fan base recognizes Eva, obviously. And they're like, oh my God, we love Geo and Survivor. Can we get a pic? And it was actually a taste of my own medicine because it's usually the people I'm with at games have to take pictures of me and fans and they're coming up to me like, will you take our pick? And I'm like, uh huh. For sure. And they, they handed us a ton of these homemade Minnesota Wild stickers. And they were awesome, right? And I had a million. I attached them to some stuff at my house, but I had so many loose in my pocket. And I swear to God, before the game, I get in my car, I'm leaving this event, and I find. I don't know if the camera can see this, but I find this one. Kirill Kaprizoff. Wild sticker. And I text Eva before game six, and I was like, look what I just found in my car. This is a sign this series is over. And she was like, I need it. And. And holy hell, did they deliver. That was insane.
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D
Oh, my gosh. It was electric. It definitely. The stickers were helping out. I was doing everything. Like, I legitimately had so much as my, like, heart was set on this. I was like, we can't go to game seven. Like, we need to finish it here and now at home. And I. Oh, my gosh. Just. You could hear how electric that rink was just through the broadcast. Oh, my God.
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A
Okay, so I always say playoff elimination game for the road team if they're the team up against it. I said, this, the other series, whichever, whoever just got bounced. But I was like, you have to manage that. 10 minutes, the first 10 minutes, and the. To have Quinn Hughes, little towy dangle snipe job seven minutes in. Were you. Were you. Were you overeager in that moment where you were like, we did it.
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D
I was losing my mind. I was like, we gotta keep this rolling. Cause I get so, like, paranoid that it's. You get kind of into a lull when you're like, oh, we're up. We're good. And I was like, no, we gotta keep this energy. And I believe that. We just gotta. Gotta keep forcing it. And once again, it just shows how, like, key Quinn is to our team. That that's what, like, set it off and get it going. Is that, like, having him on our roster right now is the difference maker. Because now we're like, we're the full package.
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A
Oh, my God. And it was a pretty tight first after that. But I thought Dallas, I think they finished with four shots, but literally with two minutes left, they had two shots in the period. And I was like, man, you are in massive trouble. Like, going into that break, I was like, dallas is dead. Which you never want to feel because you get overconfident. But I was like, man, there's. You want that flurry where you go, we're going to break through. But leaving that period with 2, 4. I guess before shots in the period, they must have been in shambles and intermission.
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D
Oh, I bet. But I mean, they did come out and then got one in after the intermission there. So the funny story about that one is on that goal, I had just gotten off FaceTime, meeting one of my new kids. Who. The kid's name is Wyatt. And I was like, oh, my gosh, I'm meeting baby Wyatt for the first time. And I was, like, so excited. And then I, like, look up, and all of a sudden, Wyatt Johnson is scoring a goal on the Wild. And I was like, it's your child's fault. I'm so mad. I'm going to hate this kid for life if we lose this game because of your child being named Wyatt causing this goal. And luckily, that didn't happen. So, like, I'm chill with baby Wyatt
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A
right now, but you live to see another day. Oh, my God, that was so funny. Literally, Eva's texting me, like, yeah, just, yeah, we won't say who because I don't want their baby getting stuck.
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D
But it hasn't been revealed yet who.
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A
But, yeah, it was like, hey, I'm FaceTiming my friend and just met baby Wyatt. And then immediately, Wyatt Johnson on the power play again, by the way. Like, chill, dude. And I literally. He was like, I am. This is literally this entire baby's fault. And I was like, man, this baby Wyatt Johnson gets another one. This baby needs to go into witness protection. Like, this is.
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D
Yeah, exactly. And it's a girl named Wyatt. Like, the baby is a girl named Wyatt. And I was like, if you were going to name a girl a boy name, couldn't you pick Quinn? Like, Quinn works for both. Like, let's get Quinn Hughesborn.
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A
That is hilarious. I'm legitimately. This is more big picture, but your power plays will need to get going if you want to beat the fs. It's hard to survive playoff series when there's a special teams discrepancy. Like, you guys had, so. And what's crazy, though, is you had such good possession. Sometimes when a power play sucks, it's like, we can't even break out. We can't even get it in the zone. You guys snap it around for two minutes and just nobody can fucking score. It's insane.
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D
Yep. No, it's ridiculous. And I think in addition to that, we really have to lock it down on our PK because we had, what, 10 power play goals scored against us during these six games? That's ridiculous. And now the bright spot here is that the avs, they only scored two power play goals in their four games, and so their power play is pretty weak, which is crazy considering how much talent is on that team. You'd think they'd have a good power play, but they're one of the worst power plays in the league, and so that maybe that will help us in this next round here where, like, yeah, like, we're not great at killing, apparently. But also they're not great at scoring on the power play, so maybe that'll balance out. But, yeah, we need to start, like, tucking more in on our power play. For sure.
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A
Yeah. That would be such a massive help. And then the. What was killer for me watching is you get the power play goal by the stars, and you're like, all right, whatever. This is what they do. We just gonna manage to stay out of the box as best we can. But the stars hadn't scored five on five in a billion years. I forget what the stat was. But then they get one Maverick Bork Bangs went in to go up to one. And these are the moments where, as a fan, you know, for me, in neutral, I'm like, I announced this game over after intermission, after the first intermission, and now it's two one stars, they've got a five on five goal. Were you in hell in this moment?
- [11:42]
D
Oh, my God. I was just like. I was kicking myself being like, how can this. How can we be in this position here? I just. I'm so used to Minnesota sports disappointing me. Just like it always. I get my hopes up. I feel like I'm like, oh, my gosh, I can actually be good. And then just like, torn apart, ripped to shreds. And I was really worried that was going to, like, spiral into one of those games where all of a sudden, Dallas takes off with it and we look dead out there. And so seeing us, like, maintain composure and then get after it was, like, really good. But, yeah, it's always spooky when all of a sudden it's like, oh, okay, they're coming back.
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A
I know. And it was like, I so eva. I think to myself all the time, because I know. I know Walstead got a piece of that, but essentially it caroms off the end boards and like, sneaks back out in front. There are so many goals in playoffs that bounce off the end boards that I'm like, I'm of two minds. Either in playoffs, goalies have to just stay in their net. Like, everybody calm down.
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D
Or.
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A
Or in the regular season, we aren't firing enough pucks off the end board. Like, it's one of two things. Is true. And I don't know what it is.
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D
Yeah, no, that is a weird difference that I do feel like the boards are, like, zippier and stuff in the playoffs. And I'm like, do they, like, change the advertising behind the net or something? Like, redo the boards? And then it's all sudden, like. Like bouncy, like, Crazy. But no, yeah, I've noticed that, too. That is weird. But, like, bounces. Can we talk about the fact that Quinn purposefully did a bank shot? Like, I've never seen that. Why was that?
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A
Oh, my God. And you know what's crazy? So. So Quinn and I. I want to talk about the Vlad goal, too, but Quinn has an assist on that one. He scores the. Which was the game winner, right? Cause they finished with two. Yeah. Scores the game winner. Krill is. Is back door. Like, you can see Krill, but Quinn can see everything. Quinn can see fucking three streets over. You think you're. Dude, don't do anything embarrassing in your bedroom while the wild game is on, because Quinn can fucking see it five blocks away. It's insane. So I know he sees everything, but he banks one in. And in that moment, legitimately, I. And I'm. Or I guess this was against the AVS last year. This wasn't against you. It's okay. But the. It. The Aves being up 20 in Game 7 against the Stars, looking like it's over. And then Mikko rant and goes Hattie and just kills them. And he's their new chip, their new trade piece. This. This was that Quinn Hughes moment for me, where I was like, holy shit. I know it's game six, not seven, but, like, you don't you want this game in Minnesota so bad to have Quinn Hughes have two goals and an assist in essentially a 32 win where he has the fucking game winner. What a moment for the new kid. It was incredible.
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D
Wild and just. It once again, like, shows how he is just, like, seeing the game at a plane above everyone else. Because as he's getting that fed across to him there, I'm seeing, like, goalie still shifted over. It's wide open. And I was like, he's got to whip that super quick. And he took a second and I was like. In my head, I was. I was just like, what is he doing? I was screaming. I was like, you have to shoot that. Like, I hate the people.
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A
Yeah, you're the shoot fan.
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D
But, like, now I'm the person being like, shoot it. Like, you've got to get that off quick. Like, it needed to be like, one touch, one tee. Because, like, we know Otter is a phenomenal goalie. He's going to get over if it's more than a second. But Quinn took that extra second and he read the play, and instead of making that shot there, he shot it into traffic to purposely bounce it off the players and go in on the opposite side after Otter had moved over. And that is just such a high hockey IQ that like can't even. You can't teach that. Yeah, you can't. Like the. He's drawn up plays that like no one's even thought of. And like the. The way that this man just constantly looks so dead and like he hates being there and that he's haunted by ghosts. And then it's just brainstorming the craziest moves. Like I don't know what goes on in his brain, but it should be studied because he is amazing on every level.
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A
Ava. Sandra always asked me what you know because she, like the other non hockey fan Internet has become so obsessed with Quinn Hughes and just roots for him no matter what. And she was so fired up last night, but she asked me what was. What is he actually doing on the bench when he's just staring like that? And I don't know, literally, because I don't ask him, but I'm positive it's. He's thinking about plays that have happened in the game where he's like, oh, yeah, this went down. I wonder if I could have done that differently. He's always assessing options and he's like, that's why he thinks of things like this, where he goes, man, next time I get that one coming down the strong side, I'm just going to fire it into traffic and see what happens. It's like bad and that wins the game.
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D
It's amazing. And like, like, as a player too, and being a defenseman, I am constantly, every time I get off the ice, I'm like replaying a shift in my head and I do it on the side where I'm more defensive. So I'm always thinking that it's like, oh, how could I have stopped this play better? I know full well that, like doing things like that keeps you in the game and keeps you going. I hope I don't look like I'm seeing ghosts when I do that. But like he certainly that like mentally walking through it, I'm sure that he's doing is really translating to some phenomenal plays on the ice. And we're just guessing because he could just be sitting there totally dazed out, like thinking about what he had for dinner. We have no idea. But whatever he's doing, it's working it.
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A
Eva. It also could be ghosts. Like, I love that Quinn Hughes has a supernatural ability that no one knew about. And now all of a sudden the whole Internet is on to him and he's like, oh, fuck, how do I How do I convince the whole world I'm not talking to ghosts when really?
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D
Yeah, it's like, like the amount of like montage clips I get of him like falling and like, like looking unathletic, not being able to get over the boards. That's when the ghosts are mad at him. Like they just occasionally got to like yank his feet out from under him to keep him in check because he's getting too powerful. It's like the balance here, like, you know, he has to take a few hits from the ghost to like be able to make a play later. But like, hey, he's. He's working it as best he can.
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A
Absolutely, absolutely correct. Also, I love that. I mean, you know full well, but anybody that's been watching this series, Quinn has made a massive impact, right? He's so dangerous all the time. You watch, you watch the Olympics there. The studs on Team USA are deferring to Quinn Hughes, which is crazy, right? Like, that's how good this kid is. But it was so awesome in Milan to have him get that OT goal against Sweden because as much as you're doing as a one man breakout, as playing incredible D, as being a power play quarterback, all that stuff that you're doing, it's still nice to have fucking impact on the score sheet in a huge moment. So it was so sick to have him have this like actual tangible bang two goal impact. The Wild fans must have just been going apeshit to see him get this, this moment.
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D
Oh, for sure. And he's an amazing player in both. He's like phenomenal defenseman and that creative offensive defenseman like contribution he has to whatever team he's playing on. And there's so many times that it doesn't convert into a goal that he makes some amazing, insane play and you're like, oh my God. But it doesn't end up on the score sheet. And so people who, who maybe aren't as in tune with what's going on on the Wild specifically aren't seeing how amazing, incredible he is. Because it's not always converted, but when he does convert, there it is amazing. Just like you said. But with that game in Milan and everything and seeing it in this game, he has just an insane brain on him and I'm glad to see that it's converting and making such an impact out there.
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A
Yeah, it's nuts. And then obviously, Boldy, did he get both or did he just get the first one?
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D
He got both. Yeah, he got both empty netters.
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A
So sick. What a series from him. He. I don't know when people. And maybe. Maybe I'm too close to it, but I still feel like people aren't aware of that. Matt Boldy is a massive superstar. And I mean, superstar people go, matt Boldi's great. And I'm like, no, no. He is literally in the top echelon of players in the league. I mean, you must be fired up about him, too.
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D
This might be a hot take, but I think that Boldy is more of an impact player on our team right now than Kirill is.
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A
I think you're right. And Krill hasn't been bad. I feel like people are killing him. He hasn't been bad. But Matt Boldy, I mean, he carried a lot of the weight in the series for sure, right?
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D
Absolutely. He's the. I know. Like, the last few years, Krill had really been that player where people would look at him, and when he got the puck, the other team scared. They're like, oh, God, what is he gonna make happen? What kind of play is gonna come out of this? Because he was that player that everyone feared that he's, like, the next big thing here. And I felt that. Not that he's, like, dropped off and isn't really being an impact anymore. That's not true. He is still such an impact player, but I think the player that it shifted to being worried about has become bully because he is making some crazy plays out there, and I think he's converting more and kind of having, like, stepping into a role here that people expected Capris off to fill. And now I think Boldy is really taking that on. But I think both of them together are what is making the Wild so successful because they are both amazing players and are contributing in different ways. And so, yeah, I'm really happy to see that Boldy has stepped up, and he is such a good deal for us. Like, we're paying. My God, for paying nothing for Boldy. Like, this, man. We, like, bought him at prices that you could, like, go to Walmart and pick up some. Literally, we're spending Gucci money on Krill. We're spending Walmart money on Bold. And both products are amazing.
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A
You know. You know when you. You know when you go to, like, you want new ski gear, but it's summer. It's the middle of summer. So they're like, here you go. Like, you can have it for nothing because it's July. Yeah. Like, you guys bought Baldi in July and. And got an insane deal. But I actually love this take because you're right, they Just average out into what you should be paying both of them. Like, the two of them together are a fair deal total, but Krill getting all the money. I hope Krill takes boldly to a lot of fudgeing dinners because they should be splitting those contracts, but it's actually works out perfectly. It's insane.
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D
Absolutely. It's like that. That joke about, like, oh, it's like, oh, you, like, bought in low. When you're, like, started dating your girl who, like, didn't get hot yet, and all of a sudden she had a glow up, and now she's like an absolute bombshell. Like, that's what we're looking at.
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A
With Boli boldly took his. He took his glasses off and took his ponytail down, and everyone's like, holy hell, this guy's hot.
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D
He got his braces off, and all of a sudden we're like, damn, you know what, too?
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A
Last year, I remember. I know you guys lost, but in that Vegas series, it felt like Krill scored every. Every time he got it. Every time, it was power play. Anytime they found Krill, it was in the back of the net. And that's been Boldy this series, which is amazing because you needed it. But the luxury is you in a playoff run, you talk to any team that's gone on a long playoff run. It's never one guy the whole time. You need everybody. And it's like, now Krill can just get going in the next series, and then. And then you're laughing, Right? It's like the luxury of having boldy do what he just did. And having Krill not even firing yet is amazing.
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D
Yeah, everyone's talking about, like, that. That big three that we have, where we have Capriz off boldy and Hughes. But also, I think I want to propose a fourth person that's been a huge impact is Faber. Yeah, Faber is phenomenal. And I think in a few games, especially early in the season or early in the series, he was playing better than Hughes and having more impact out there. I mean, what was that? Like, Game three where the Wild looked just like dead, Like Favor was the only one doing anything. And, like, I think that he has really stepped up. And seeing that pairing of Faber with Hughes, that is just a phenomenal duo. And I think that. That they are probably, in my opinion, the best D pairing in the league right now.
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A
Eva, we said that the other day. We said, maybe it was on Twitter or something, but we were like, they're the best pairing. And we got so many comments like, oh, did Makar And Taze die. And I didn't hear about it. And I'm like, okay, I hear you, but. And listen, actually, Quinn in favor play fine D2. But I get that Taze is probably maybe the best defenseman, defensive defenseman in that group. And I know he can contribute offensively, but he does that job so well. He lets Kale be Kale. But, my God, is it fun. If you are a hockey fan and you're sitting and sit here and tell me it's not fun to watch Quinn, Hughes and Faber play on the same blue line, you are out of your mind.
- [22:47]
D
Yeah, no, it's amazing. And knowing that they. They carry that to the Olympics, too, that it's like they. They bend together. They know how they're playing together, and they, like, are just a great duo. And I. We're gonna get that opportunity to see which pair is better because we are facing off against the ABs next year. And so I think it really. Both of these teams start by having that, like, great D core to start that. They have the top D pairings that are phenomenal and both have, like, decent goaltending here, which is great. Like, that. That's not, like, a big weak point to worry about. And so I think it's going to be a really, like, interesting matchup and is definitely. The Wild has the hardest path.
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A
Oh, my God. It's undisputed.
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D
Hardest path to get there. But if we can get through the abs, then I think that it's smooth sailing. Like, this is the hardest. This is Stanley cup round that we're about to have.
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A
This should be the sailing legitimately. But there is a. There's a very real chance. There's a card game I play with my friends all the time where I constantly scream, there's a very real chance. And I actually believe there's a very real chance that this is the Stanley Cup Final. And if you think about it, the. The Oilers had been so scary always because of the Oilers. And we're going to talk about this later in the live, but the Oilers felt like they would come out of that pacific bracket. And now you've got a rolling Connor McDavid, Leon Draisaitl. And that was going to be the central path. Like, okay, you got to beat Dallas, then you got to beat the avs, then you got to beat the Oilers, then you got to beat, you know, Tampa or Montreal or some incredible east team. But I kind of hear you now with the Oilers being out and the way the other side shaking out and. And the way the east has looked a little bit. If you get through the avs, you feel incredible. That would be so nuts. So, yeah, the. Oh, oh. I want to say this too about Vlad. Like I said, you need that depth. I was looking at Vlad is such a funny player because he's. We see this a lot in the league where it's like, you know, mega all star towards the end of his career, gets signed by a team like he was on Florida a couple years ago, and you go, oh, I hope he. I hope he turns back the clock and is incredible. And he's not quite that, but he gives you what you need. I think I looked it up. I think he had five and four in that. In that Florida run. Like, you know, ends up having five goals in 24 games.
- [24:49]
D
Perfect.
- [24:50]
A
And to see him get on the board here, I thought was so huge because it was a great goal. Huge moment in the game. And also this is what you need from a Tarasenko. Like, if you can get four or five goals in a playoff run from Tarasenko, that's how you win the cup. So that was sick too.
- [25:04]
D
Oh, hell yeah. And that Celly was elect, like, oh, my God, that was bad.
- [25:09]
A
And it's like the. Cause he knows his job. You know what I mean? Like, he's just having fun out there. He pops one in. He's like, let's fucking go, boys. That I just. I can't believe. I'm so jealous of everyone that was there. That must have been such an incredible atmosphere. But I give you guys so much credit because, you know, Dallas, three straight Western Conference finals, so many expectations go up 2:1 in the series where it feels like, oh, you know, they did their. They get tanked in game one, but here they come. Minnesota is back to another first round exit over 15 years or whatever it is since you guys made the second round. I give you guys so much credit because you fought back the whole way win in Game 5 in Dallas, which was massive, but means nothing if you lose this game and the stars go up two, one and God, there is no quit in this team at all against a lot of adversity. It was. It was awesome.
- [26:01]
D
Yeah, no, it was just amazing to see that. And like, with saying that like Terasenko that it's like, yeah, like he's like near the end of his career or whatever. I heard a stat like on the broadcast that it was like, the Wild is one of the oldest teams that are in playoffs right now.
- [26:13]
A
Is that true?
- [26:13]
D
Yeah, yeah, Yeah. I mean, think comparing to like look like the Canadiens where like everyone on their top lines is like my age.
- [26:20]
A
Yeah, yeah. The crazy. The ducks are all 12.
- [26:22]
D
Like, yeah, the Wild has like these older players who are like trying to have that last push there and are just like really contributing in great ways. And like, think about like, we brought in like Nick Foligno and everything too and stuff. It's like true, they're like these depth players that it's like they're not like our, our top guys, but that's not what they're expected to do and they're filling that role really like importantly here and that's what's making a difference. And so it's great to see. The one thing that I like wish that we had brought in near the end here was getting a better center. I think that our biggest like issue is going to be like centers, but so far has been so good. But it's, it's interesting because, like, I think that's, that's definitely a weak point that we have.
- [27:00]
A
Yeah. And it's tough too because the ABS are so deep down the middle, you know. Yeah, that's a fucking tough match. But I will say, I mean, it's tough to say that. You never know till a series starts. But I will say that the Aves were forced, or maybe by choice, but whatever, were kind of forced to play a different style against the Kings. The Kings were really trying to muck it up, play these low scoring games, beat them two one type thing. And you have been in these intense, high flying, high octane games, which is certainly how you're going to play against the avs. I think it, it benefits you guys to be able to roll right into the series and have been in a series against Dallas versus the Apps, who are coming off a little rest and coming off a 4 gamer that they were challenged but weren't playing at all the style that they're about to play. So I got to think you feel pretty good coming in.
- [27:44]
D
Yeah, I mean that's, I think there's just so much excitement surrounding that that it's like, hey, we made it out of the first round. Like there had been jokes the last few years about us being the new Toronto. I know I made them and we've broken out of that and so that's already like an extra push that it's like, hey, like this is our time and knowing, yeah, we just came off of playing Dallas, who after the ABS is like another one of the top teams in the league and that we took them out and now we're going on to play who is what I consider probably the best team in the league right now. And that just knowing that it's like coming in with that underdog mentality, it really gives you that extra push. And I think that we are a gritty team that's going to come in flying because, yeah, we just came off of that. We're ready to roll and we have a lot to prove here against a team that has shown that they are one of the best in the league.
- [28:30]
A
I know. And I also think too, and maybe you. You won't agree, but I think for a wild fan, being in the second round now and getting through who you got through, not just in the second round because you beat a low seed. Getting through Dallas coming up against the Aves. A bit. I know you never want to lose, but a bit. You got to feel like this is house money for you guys. Where you go, you come in. No pressure. Where the AVs are the President's trophy wagon. So much pressure. If they get bounced in the second round after getting bounced in the first round last year, it's a disaster. You guys get to come in and just play. And I think that. I think that'll feel great for everyone in that locker room.
- [29:04]
D
Yeah. Oh, for sure. And like we brought up the President's trophy. That's something that we can hold on to that. It's like, hey, like, that thing's cursed.
- [29:11]
A
Yes.
- [29:11]
D
That thing is first. And so like we can be the ones to like make that curse happen here and take the abs out. Because everyone knows that you win that you're going nowhere. And so it's. That's. That's another hope that it is you kind of. Yeah. Having that weight off your back that it's like we. We made it through the first and now we proved that we belong. And now like, we're just proving to ourselves that we can do more. But it's not like a. If we lose, which we're not going to. I believe we're going to win and make it out of this. It's. Didn't have those same kind of expectations that the Aves did. And so it's not as much of a. An upset, but I think that we can. Can power through them. They are quite the wagon, like you said.
- [29:48]
A
Oh, my God, it's going to be insane series. Also, how about Wallstead? Can you believe the performance from this kid? I even. Did you want Gus in that to start or did you want them to go Wallstead?
- [30:00]
D
I. I thought they were going to,
- [30:01]
A
like, at the beginning of the series. I mean.
- [30:02]
D
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I like the beginning of the series. I thought they were going to go Gus, because I think that Wall said had a bit like, when he's on, he's on. But then there was some times during the season where it was like, okay, like, he's. He's off, and we should be Gus, but they're both phenomenal contenders. I wasn't like, like, upset, you know, I was like, he'll be fine. But then he really, like, showed his stuff and took off here where he had just every game, even the ones that we didn't win. Like, he was really making the saves that need to be made and was keeping this team together. Like, it starts from goaltending. And so having two solid goaltenders is phenomenal. And obviously, it's like, we miss Fleury. He was great, like, a great, like guy to have on the team for so many reasons. But I think that having these two phenomenal goaltenders together in, like, a duo that feels very, like, solid in net is great.
- [30:47]
A
Yeah. Well, actually, I can't believe you just said Florida. That's such a good call. I will be. I mean, he's not lacking for Cups, obviously, but it will be so sad if you guys win the cup this year and he's gone. I'm like, no, damn it. But, yeah, I'm so with you, because beginning of the year, I was like, oh, my God, Walstead's going to win the Vesna, and, you know, he's the future of the league. But then you guys really went to that tandem because Gus is so good. And down the stretch, I was with you, I was like, gus is going to start just because it's a lot. It's a lot for a rookie who's faced, who's just played the most games he's played at this level. And now he's getting thrust into the playoffs against fucking Dallas. You know, it was. It was a big. Ask the spine on this kid to step up and he's going to get so rich. He is going to be so, so rich. This is insane. But what a performance. The luxury of being able to go to Gus if he stumbles is so awesome. But I can't believe there was never even. It feels like there was never even a conversation to tandem in the playoffs. Like, remember, remember the Bruins when it was Swayman and Olmark that year? Yeah, they. They were going back and forth a little bit in the playoffs there. This was like. This is wallstead's net, which was fascinating to me, but holy shit, he stepped up.
- [31:51]
D
Yeah, I honestly like, like that because I feel like the. I think that when you give the goalie, like, the confidence there, that it's like, we trust you, Annette. Then they oftentimes will run away with that. You know, it's like sometimes having that, like, back and forth, oh, who's going to play? Like, which one is it? When they're. They are both great choices can be a little, like, hard on the mental, you know? And so I think that that does help someone lock in as being like, this is mine. I got this. And that everyone, like, is kind of rallying behind that. That it's like, yeah, we know that. Going to hold it down. And he absolutely did.
- [32:19]
A
Yeah. For sure. Okay, what do you think about Dallas? Like, what do you think the attitude is at Dallas? So my. My buddy Dennis, who works in Raleigh, was texting me, and he goes, what I think is ridiculous is the Canes have come up short. They haven't won, but they come up short. They make the Eastern Conference finals, and. And they always lose. And all everybody does is dog the Canes every year, right? The playoffs start and they're like, oh, what are you going to pick Carolina? Like, all they do is lose. And he. He goes, how does Dallas not get this same treatment? Like, they have lost in the Western Conference final three years in a row. They just got bounced in the first round. And when he said that, I was like, you know what? You're right. Dallas doesn't get enough heat. What do you think about that?
- [32:55]
D
That's a super good point. You know, like, I hadn't even thought of that because, yeah, it is like, Carolina is kind of a joke with that there. But I think that Dallas gets away with it maybe because just the fan base isn't as. As like, focused on it as Carolina. You know, like, when fans grasp onto something, then all of a sudden, like, that's all that it is. And it's a running thing, so maybe people just haven't picked up on it yet. But here, now having this, it's kind of like, hey, like, maybe open your eyes and see that, like, stars are not a great playoff. They're not going to go further. But I think that it is. It is definitely compare them to Carolina because I think that is almost like a similar situation. They're interesting.
- [33:33]
A
Yeah. What I think is going to be. Be crazy for Dallas moving forward is when you don't win, when you're this good, because I. I've Said many times, the Dallas roster construction is amazing. You look at that lineup, it's incredible. But if you don't win for this long, shit starts happening. Bad shit. Like, you look at the Leafs, Mitch Marner is gone because. Because they're like, hey, we got. We got to do something. Because people criticize you if you just bring the same team back and forth. And Dallas, with this loss, is hitting a point where I'm like, is Jason Robertson gone now? And I think that's insane because he's so good. But do you have to start mixing it up? At what point do you go, clearly, this isn't working? Which sucks, because you want to go, but this has to work. Look how good we are. Like, Rupe was hurt, blah, blah, blah. But I'm like, I don't know. And it just. Owners get panicky, GMs get panicky, coaches get panicky. It's a weird thing. And so it's a scary thought, if you're a Dallas fan right now, to go out this early, because it could mean. Could. Could mean changes in the summer, which would be crazy.
- [34:29]
D
Yeah, it could really shake up, that's for sure. It would be interesting to see. See, like, a different Dallas team there, because I feel like you've gotten so used to it being like, oh, like, they got Otter, we got Robertson. You know, like, it's these great players. And it is always interesting when things switch around there. Just like you were mentioning with Toronto. And another point with Toronto is I. I think that in the off season, the Wild is going to go after Matthews.
- [34:53]
A
Oh, my God, that would be.
- [34:55]
D
I really think, you know, like, I think that that's the center that we're wanting. And I thought we were going to actually go after Trojek.
- [35:02]
C
Yeah.
- [35:02]
A
Oh, yeah. That would have been sick. We talked about that.
- [35:04]
D
Yeah. And especially, like, knowing that, like, Billy G really, like, definitely loves him and everything, but I think that they might have shifted from that. And I could totally see Matthews joining the Wild for next season, which would be really interesting change up. I don't think that he's going to be staying with the Leafs for much longer, and I would love to see him added to our roster.
- [35:23]
A
God, can you imagine? Let's turn to Minnesota Wild into Team usa. I'm here for that. That would be incredible. I'm so down. Okay.
- [35:31]
D
I have two things, but with our Russians. With our Russians, we can't.
- [35:33]
A
Yes, right, of course. I can't even believe I just said that when I've been announcing that it's now Called Mini Oscow St. Petersburg. We've dubbed Minnesota Russia. So, yes, it is Team USA and the Soviets. And peace. We found peace, actually. This is incredible.
- [35:49]
D
Yes.
- [35:49]
A
We make world peace on the Minnesota Wild. Two things before I let you go. EVA one, give me your series prediction. Wild abs, what do you got?
- [35:58]
D
Oh, I think this one is going to seven. I think that this is definitely going to seven games. I could totally see some overtimes as well. Like, I think this is going to be a really hard thought. Like, this is the Stanley cup, in my opinion. And I, I, I believe that the Wild can come out on top of this, but we're going to have to come in with that same energy that we just finished this series off with. And so I think that it's, it's going to go to seven and the Wild are going to come out. Moving on to the next round.
- [36:24]
A
I love it. I've already declared wild winning Game 1 because Colorado's been resting and they're not ready. They're not ready for the smoke that you guys are coming with. So, okay, Wild in seven. And then real quick, quick Survivor talk. You're watching. Are you enjoying it? How, how's season 50 going for you?
- [36:41]
D
Oh, well. So, okay, I'm not caught up on the recent episode because I was in Dallas and I had flight luck on my way back. So I don't know if people knew this. They had. I saw, like, graphics post about it during the game, but there was a, like, softball size hail warning during game five, and my sister and I had walked from our hotel that we were staying at in Dallas to the game like, a mile. And we're sitting there. I saw this on my phone and I was like, are we going to be getting pelted on our walk back? Like, when we first got to the game, it was, the sky was, like, super eerie and stuff. And honestly, it, like, wasn't as full at the rink as I was expecting at the start. And I was like, oh, is it like, because the weather's going to be bad? Like, there was a tornado watch.
- [37:17]
A
Yeah.
- [37:17]
D
So there was a lot of weird weather going on in Dallas. Ultimately, it did fill up, but the rink was still quieter than usual.
- [37:23]
A
Let's go.
- [37:24]
D
So, but then the next day, there was still, like, all this aftermath of weird weather and everything. And so I had just a hell of a time getting back to Providence. Here I was sitting on a tarmac in a plane for three hours without taking off and, like, I missed the episode on Wednesday. I was like, I'm A bad Survivor fan. I'm behind. Planning to try to watch it this weekend, but. Yeah, so don't spoil.
- [37:50]
A
No spoils. Yep.
- [37:51]
D
But, yeah, so far it's been a crazy season for sure. I mean, I was absolutely so upset about that Blood Moon a few weeks ago, sending Camilla home, and now I'm just rooting for Joe out here. Of course, that's my guy. But. Yeah, well, we'll see where it goes from here. I'm really pumped for that live finale. I will be at that in. In la.
- [38:13]
A
So sick. I was going to ask. Yeah, that will be awesome. I can'. Wait. Yeah, well, because of you, I've always been a Joe guy. So rooting for Joe. So big. He's had a couple scares, but he's. He's hanging, he's doing. He's playing the game. And I actually think it's been so fun as a, as a new to Survivor with your season and on and new to Survivor fan. It's been cool how the fans have been involved in this and all like the insane boomerang idols and all the shit that's going on that, that I've. I'm glad they made 50 a real spectacle. It's been sick.
- [38:42]
D
Absolutely. Well, and so here's interesting. I know the. The last episode I watched was where they had the bucket challenge where. Oh, yeah, right. And now Jeff talked about it on the show there being like that. It was like, oh, we thought of this with Jimmy Fallon and whatever. Like, that was a lie, Jeff. Because we were the ones on my season. Well, actually, well, they were setting up the bucket challenge because we draw for spots and then they have to put your weight. Like they. It's like a percentage of your weight that's in the bucket. So it takes them a while to set that up. And so we were sitting there, we're chatting with Jeff, just all of us, like hanging out, about to go, like, do a terrible challenge. And we told him that he should do this. We were like, you should get up there and you should do a challenge. And we were brainstorming with him how that would look and we're like, oh, it could be for something that. It's like you lose your vote if you don't last longer than Jeff or like, sick. Yeah, like something like that. And so we're giving him ideas and he's workshopping it back and forth with us, like, honestly interested in it. And so then when he actually ended up doing it on the show, I was like, yes, we gave him the idea.
- [39:39]
C
No way.
- [39:40]
D
Yeah. Yeah. I was so cool. And I do gotta say that he really let me down. And how short his time was holding up that bucket. I was like, come on, man, you can do better than that. And that whole challenge, it's crazy, like, watching other people do it, because when I did it, I held onto that bucket for, I think it was like, like 30 minutes or so. And then Kyle and I dropped out. And then Joe and David went for an hour.
- [40:05]
A
Oh, my.
- [40:05]
D
They got there an hour. And now watching, hearing them at. At like, 12 minutes that half of the people had dropped, I was like, come on.
- [40:13]
A
What?
- [40:14]
D
There was. There was no women left after, like, 20 minutes. I was like, we need some stronger people out here. What's going on?
- [40:20]
A
That is so epic. What an insane backstory. I can't believe that. And also, Coretti, I actually like that Jeff fell early because it's a credit to you how all. How good you guys are. Like, the people that play Survivor are such. Are battling so hard that to see Jeff, who's. Who's been there through everything, who's seen every challenge ever, and he's like, actually, this is very hard. I can't do this. It's like, oh, my God.
- [40:40]
D
And the montage of him giving players shit.
- [40:42]
A
Yeah.
- [40:43]
D
And then while he was there and now they're giving him shit. I was like, yes. Chirp the hell out of this, man. Like, he's been chirping us all this time.
- [40:51]
A
I love that so much. My God, Eva, you are a legend. Thank you so much for joining. We've got wild, and first of all, congratulations. What a series win. Amazing. We got wild in seven. Do you think you'll be able to get to a game at all this series, or are we going to wait? We're going to wait till the Cup.
- [41:06]
D
I really hope so. I've been talking with the Wild. They. They've been looking for people to do the let's play Hockey, and they reached out to me.
- [41:12]
A
Oh, my God.
- [41:14]
D
I am really hoping. I'm still waiting for them to, like, connect me with actual details on this, but I'm really hoping to get to do that. That would be so insane. But if not, I'm trying to make one out to Colorado because the. The abs are a partner with Culture City, and so I might be hitting another away game, but, you know, I got to bring that luck to the away rank. Like, it worked for Dallas, so maybe that's what I got to do. But I'm going to be hoping to get out there.
- [41:40]
A
I'll bring The. I'll bring the krill sticker and we'll take on. We'll take on the apps together. Let me know if you do that. That would be awesome. I'll come with you because I would love to get to Denver and see a game there. That's incredible atmosphere.
- [41:51]
D
Absolutely. We'll talk off offline about that.
- [41:53]
A
Fantastic. Okay, go catch up on Survivor and then get pumped for wild AVS game one. Eva, thank you so much. Incredible to see you. This was a blast.
- [42:00]
D
Hell yeah. Talk to you soon, Chris. Bye.
- [42:02]
A
See ya. I think, I'm thinking I'm back. Is that John Wick? I'm thinking I'm back.
- [42:11]
B
I'm thinking, don't kill my. The dog was the stream and the stream got killed.
- [42:17]
A
Yeah, you're right. We killed the puppy with a parched rp Beautiful puppy. And it had to be killed for me to be back. And that's how hero journeys work. So, you know, deal with it. Okay, so we're going Oilers Ducks. And this is another one, dude. That I cannot believe. Well, I'll save that. The Oilers to start announce before the game they're going McDavid dry seidle, same line. Because they're like. And Knobloch says, I get. I want to go out swinging. You know, if we're going to go out, I want to go out with my best punch. The one thing that I thought was weird about that was if you're down 3 0, that sentence makes perfect sense to me. You go, we're getting killed. We gotta fix something.
- [42:56]
B
Right?
- [42:56]
A
But they were playing. They're in every game. Like, it almost feels like they should have won some of these games. And they just rolled in game five. And then to be like, we gotta change something up.
- [43:07]
B
Yeah. Well, didn't they score the first goal in every game except for game six, which normally is an indicator that, like, you're playing, you're going to win a lot of these games.
- [43:15]
A
And the second line with. With Pod and KK and draisaitl has been your best line by a mile.
- [43:22]
B
Right.
- [43:22]
A
So I'm like, what do you mean you're changing the lines? Like, aren't you killing the second line? And what's the sneaky thing is I feel like the undertone there is we're putting dry. Settle up there to get Conor going.
- [43:33]
B
Right.
- [43:34]
A
Which is weird because I'm like, why does Conor need to get going? He's Conor fucking McDavid and he's probably because he's injured. Yeah. But I think he's dead. I think he, I think his ankle is hanging off his body.
- [43:45]
B
Is that. What is it an ankle injury for sure. Is that a guess?
- [43:48]
A
I thought he was cut at first, but I now think his ankle is just destroyed.
- [43:51]
B
Cut like his Achilles?
- [43:53]
A
No, I thought he literally got sliced by. Who was that? Ekholm he got tied up with? I thought he had, like, a horrible cut on his leg, but I think now his ankle is just so rolled, and it's one of those. If this was a running sport, he would be out. But since you can just get in that boot and tie it up and,
- [44:09]
B
and, yeah, put a lot of athletic take.
- [44:10]
A
Yeah, they're like, just play. But I think he's just got nothing on the ankle.
- [44:14]
B
It just, you know, I, you know, I, I, I feel like they came in unconfident.
- [44:20]
A
Yep.
- [44:21]
B
Tired.
- [44:22]
A
Oh, my God.
- [44:23]
B
Because here's the thing. Even when you don't win the cup and you go to two cup runs, you're. You've still played just as many games, just as tired as the Panthers, and, And you. And you expect it from a team that won the cup. You're like, yeah, there's going to be a decline. They won the cup. But these, these, these also went there. Played as many games, and they've still got cut blue balls.
- [44:40]
A
Yeah, exactly. Oh, nice.
- [44:43]
B
But. Oh, here we go. We got Dan.
- [44:44]
C
Or do I sound okay? C.P.
- [44:46]
A
you sound perfect, dude. Hello? Yeah, we're gold Dan. We're live. Don't say anything crazy.
- [44:50]
C
I won't say anything crazy.
- [44:52]
A
I'm with.
- [44:53]
C
I'm with the bachelor right now. We just had a nice par. You're literally dropped broke in our match, so we're.
- [44:59]
A
We're golden. What hole we on?
- [45:02]
C
We just finished eight. It's starting to rain here. We got treacherous weather in South Carolina, Heavy boys on about three hours of sleep from the red eye, but we're firing.
- [45:11]
A
Have we put in an order for hot dogs at the turn yet?
- [45:14]
C
We have not. And actually, Chris, Babs are a cart girl.
- [45:18]
A
It's slacking, if we're being honest. She's slack, dude. That is a true tragedy, Dan, because if it's drizzling rain, I better be
- [45:26]
C
like, you can see it. I got rain coming in my face. We got to put up the shield here.
- [45:30]
B
Careful, Dan.
- [45:31]
C
Yeah, but in a perfect world, we see the cart girl two times on each nine, correct?
- [45:40]
A
Yes. Oh, easily. And if she's doing her job, 3. Because if I'm doing my job, I've had four water hazards by then, and she knows I Got to get back to him. CP's running dry by the eighth fairway. Well, by the eighth rough, I should say. I'm never in the fairway.
- [45:53]
C
That's absolutely true. What are we talking? We talking Oilers Ducks here?
- [45:57]
B
Yeah, we've moved to the Oilers.
- [45:58]
A
We're on to Oilers Ducks. Dan and I want you to take this opportunity. And to be very clear, I have had some of the most fun days and nights of my life in Edmonton, Alberta, and I have become dear friends with many people there. But, Dan, I want you to take this opportunity to express your relief about the travel situation.
- [46:23]
C
Folks, here's the deal. It's not Edmonton.
- [46:26]
A
I love Edmonton.
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C
I have a blast in Edmonton. We love our friends at the pint. We love everyone we meet there. In Edmonton, the travel is just a bag. And I would be lying, and I always want to be honest with you all, I would be lying if I said I wasn't drastically relieved that I don't need to fly to and from Edmonton over the course of two weeks. Again, I feel terrible for McDavid. I feel terrible for Leon. Everyone knows how much I love Leon, but I feel great for me. This is a big day for me. Sitting on that plane last night, watching the waning seconds of the oiler season tick down, I felt sad, but then I felt relieved with how much I've traveled this year already, knowing that I didn't have that travel coming up was a very good feeling, I won't lie.
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A
Yeah, that's incredible. Are you about to put or tee off?
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C
I'm about to tee off, but we got a good, good, good few minutes here so I can get my reps in.
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A
Okay.
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C
So I'm gonna.
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A
Do you wanna.
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C
Do you wanna just hit me with stuff or do you want to let me roll?
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A
Oh, well, I was gonna just hit you with the things I cared about, but you can roll if you're rolling. I love that.
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C
Let me just roll real quick. I want to talk mostly about the Duckies.
- [47:34]
A
Yep.
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C
Because here's the thing with Edmonton, we said it all year. McDavid said it perfectly in the locker room. They were mediocre all year. They never got into a groove. And when you're mediocre all year, you're never going to get into a rhythm and you're never going to go deep in the playoffs. McDavid's a hockey mind. He gets it. I want to talk about the Ducks because we said this team, this Oilers team, wasn't as good as last year or the year before. So am I a little surprised they lost to the Ducks in round one. Yes. But I didn't see them going past round two, so a little bit earlier of an exit than I thought. But this wasn't the Oilers year. What it is, potentially is the Duckies year, because that performance was incredible. We kept saying with Marty on our. Our playoff preview, young, dumb, and full of come. This team is chock a bok, dude. They are. They've got a deep blue shoe on the ball bag right now with how much they're firing. You see the way Leo's playing. You see the way Beckett's playing in that first round? And can you give me a couple of stick taps? Dude, a couple of days ago, I said it on the live Crider's birthday Thursday. He hasn't been hot yet. And then bada bing, bada boom, three point night. And that fucking one T goal was.
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A
Was disgusting. What was hilarious is I text. Well, we were texting him before the game, and I go, Dan was like, I'm feeling it, dude. I knew you're gonna have a big day on your birthday. And I said to him, I actually think you're gonna get two on your birthday. He gets that first snipe. And then at the end of the game, Leo and him are coming down on an empty net, two on one. And I'm like, it's his birthday. Give him the fucking buck. And I always couldn't wait to be like, holy shit, he got two. And then Leo stuffed it, which, like, was the right play, obviously. But I was so pissed, I was like, Leo, you fucked me. You fucked me. It was insane.
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C
Couple great things. Great game for dose doll to get hot. I know the Oilers didn't test him that much, but that, hey, you always say it. Sometimes you need your goalie to have a shutdown game. He had a shutdown game going into round two. Having that performance from him, you feel great about. You feel great about how everyone's firing and playing right now. And the vibes in Honda, man, people want to shit on Southern California hockey. The vibes in Honda were incredible. The whole Ducks gang is incredible. I'm excited for this team. That was a big dick performance, man. I'm fucking fired up about it. And I'll tell you this, too. This team is. I don't want to say to, like, young enough or immature enough, but they're. They're silly enough, dude. Yeah, we're used to geese being silly, but these might be the silly ducks.
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A
Wow.
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C
They're silly enough that they could cause some Cause some damage.
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A
Dude, they're stealing silly goose from geese everywhere. Like, silly goose is now dead. It's now silly duck.
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C
Exactly, man. So I listen, I think the ducks just did it, right the way they were like Leo Sellies after the goals, after Kreider's goal. Leo jumping into Kreider. They're feeling it. Like, this wasn't it like, hey, you know, we were talking about the flyers. They get past the pens, and they're kind of like, easy money.
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A
Yeah.
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C
I think the ducks are. The gears are turning. Like, they're like, let's fucking go on a little run here.
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A
Do you have to believe that you can beat Utah or Vegas, you know, if it gets to whoever that you get in the Central, that'll be a tougher one on paper. But I am so with you, dude, that you are going. Like, I just said this to Eva about house money. You are going, oh, amazing. It's house money. We're in the second round. Fuck that, dude. Go beat the Mammoth. Or go beat a, like, struggling Vegas team, and then you're in the Western Conference fucking finals against the Central team that's been through two wars, you know, which is what the Oilers have done the last couple years. So I am so with you. There's. You could start dreaming. Hey, dude, it's the land of Disneyland. Dream big, you know? Dream big, buddy, because it's the happiest place on earth the ducklings could go. The ducklings could literally find themselves in the Stanley Cup.
- [51:14]
C
Completely agree. Listen, boys, I gotta go tee off, but thanks for letting me pop on all. All I'm gonna finish with is shout out my boy Jackson lacombe buzzing for the Ducks. And listen, I'm thrilled about it. I'm thrilled about it. We're going to be in Honda for round two. Cannot wait to get there.
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A
Dan, can you just say, we don't negotiate with terrorists. Now watch this drive.
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C
We do not negotiate with terrorists.
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A
Now watch this drive. See you later, boys. Okay, thank you, Dan. That was incredible. And I just got a text from him that said his drive was right down the.
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D
The cock.
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A
And I knew it would be. I knew it would be.
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B
He. He did it.
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A
Yeah. He did it. He did it right down the dick. It's amazing. Is that.
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B
Is it. Is that a technical phrase?
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A
Right down the cock, dude, if you listen to the 99 Masters, that's the first time they used it. I remember it was Tiger on 18, you know, and that's a tight tee shot. And they said this. A lot of pressure here. And I remember they said. I think it was Johnny Miller. He said. He said, it's right down the cocktail.
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B
Cool.
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D
Yeah.
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A
So, dude. Yeah. You brought this up before. Dan came on with. The Oilers have scored first in every game. And I was expecting them to score first again and to come out absolutely fucking flying because they are a playoff experience team. They know you have to have a first good 10 minutes. They are on the road, so they need to do this. And they've. They've done the super line.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And. And then I actually thought it was a super tense first period from them, which I was like, what do you doing?
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B
Right.
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A
That was insane. And then the Duck score first, like. Holy.
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B
I mean, I. Do you think if the Ducks don't score first completely changes the complexion of this game?
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A
Yep.
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B
Right.
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A
Because the crowd, dude, that's a nervous crowd.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And it was crazy, too. It went. The goal. It like hit Paling in the ass, you know, like, it literally just hit him in the ass and went in.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And I thought to myself in the moment, man, that that could be a backbreaker for a lesser team than the Oilers Road playoff game. You're. You could be eliminated. And they just shot a puck. Hit point shot, hit someone else. Hit Paley in the ass, goes in.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You're like, we're dead. But the Oilers, not only are they so good, but also they're the Oilers. Like, they've been to the two straight cuffs. I was like, the adversity they've experienced, that means that's not going to phase them at all.
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B
Yeah.
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A
But then the birthday boy right after that. And like, what a breakout. Holy. That's like, those are. Those clips are the coach's fucking wet dreams. When it's like you're in your own zone and then it's like, oh, steal the puck in the corner, bang. Center bang wing, back to center, bang. Weak side wing, one tee under the bar. And I'm like, dude, it was behind our goal line six seconds ago. And it's like, douche in there.
- [53:52]
B
Dad. That's Quinnville. Right. He likes to move the puck very fast. And also. I'm forgetting that I'm blanking on the name, but the former Oilers coach who is now the power play coach for the Ducks.
- [54:04]
A
Yes.
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B
Probably knows.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Yeah. Woodcroft probably knows a lot about how to like, like what the game plan is.
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A
Totally. God, dude, great call. I was so pumped for cry Dan. I were just talking about it, but what a snipe. And. But, you know, two goal leads, especially for the Ducks. But two goal leads have meant fucking dick in this series.
- [54:23]
B
It's the highest scoring series.
- [54:25]
A
Sounds like. Whatever. That doesn't matter. And then the Oilers fourth line, dude, again, like, every time this team has needed a goal, the bottom six, the depth scores. Oiler's fourth line gets a goal. This one scared me, for the Duck's sake, because, I mean, Dan and I were laughing the other episode with you about how actually bad Dostal's been when we think he's a great goalie, but you look at his numbers and you're like, dude, this is. This is. You're the.
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B
It's a horse race.
- [54:50]
A
You're literally the statistical worst goalie in playoffs. And like, that is. We can't have that. And this Gore is. Is a bad rebound. To be harsh. Like, that is a. That is a fluttering shot right here that you just bang. But then once it's loose, all hell breaks loose. So the actual goal isn't on him because it's like, what are you going to do there? Chaos in front of the net. But you just. You have to have that rebound. Even if you're not trapping it. It's just got to be gone. So just to spill that right in front. And in that moment, I'm like, okay, well, the Oilers are scoring five goals today, so here we go. And then. But. But then the first period, dude, it kind of ramped because then Cutter gets the power play goal, which that's such a goal scorers goal because it's like, he didn't get all that, but it just finds a way to get in. And. God, I'm going to talk about this more later, but the Ducks power play, dude, it's insane. 8 for 16 in the series is bonkers. Like, it is literally why they won. Like, that is fucking bonkers. So I just chirped Dostahl, but I got to give him credit because there was. I think it was the end of the first, Ross Levitt kind of got in alone and it hit the crossbar. And then the early second, Hyman got a breakaway and he stopped both of those. And those are. Those are huge saves. Like, as much as I want to be Kim about previous goals and rebounds, those are massive, massive saves in that moment. And then I also think this. This is. Yeah, I'm such a protect our goalies guy. I wonder what you think of if someone comes down on a breakaway and goes over the bar or goes over my shoulder as the goalie, but it hits the crossbar.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And I go, wow. Big, big from Doe still, everyone goes, what are you talking about? He fucking hit the crossbar. But I'm like, yeah, but he was in the position that required someone to try to shoot around him that hit the crossbar. Like, I'm not saying it's. It is a save, but I am saying sometimes when a player hits the post, the goalie did something. Does that make sense?
- [56:39]
B
Yeah, but I'll. I'll tell you what, though. The. I'll only give him credit if he doesn't do this.
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A
Yeah.
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C
Because every.
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A
That happens big time.
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B
It's always like, yeah, like, they're like, oh, fuck.
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A
Like that.
- [56:49]
B
They don't know where the puck went. But yeah, I mean, of course, like, yeah, they're in position, they're playing. They're getting big in net, right?
- [56:54]
A
Yeah.
- [56:55]
B
How big is. How big is that goalie? How is he?
- [56:57]
A
Great. Let me see. He is.
- [57:02]
B
Sometimes I feel like that's a disadvantage too, because if you have to crouch a lot.
- [57:05]
A
I know. Like, lidar is huge, right?
- [57:08]
B
Yeah.
- [57:08]
A
He's listed as 6:2, so probably pretty tall. Yeah. I bet he's Maybe isn't quite 6:2, but I bet he's. He's over 6ft. He's over 6ft.
- [57:14]
B
Are you saying that they lie on their.
- [57:16]
A
They do.
- [57:16]
B
They lie just like every other man.
- [57:18]
A
Dude, I heard the sickest stat that the population. The male population in the United States. I'm going to screw this up, but this is a. This is a true stat.
- [57:29]
B
Yeah.
- [57:29]
A
And I encourage everybody to look it up. The male population in the United States only that is over 6ft tall is something like 11% or 12%. And the male user population on dating apps that is over 6ft tall is like 78%.
- [57:46]
B
Of course.
- [57:46]
A
And I'm like, you scumbags.
- [57:49]
B
Chad. Or not Chad, but just anybody who's listening, I can confirm that Dan and Chris are over 6ft and I am firmly 5 10.
- [57:57]
A
Dude, it's actually funny.
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B
I'm not lying. I'm not over 6 foot.
- [58:00]
A
That's one of the most common things we get said to us when we see people meet us in real life. They're like, oh, you guys are huge, because you only ever see me sitting down. Yeah. You know, and they're like, oh, wow, I did not know you guys were tall. Okay. So then I thought, dude, the second period was pretty weird because when they, you know, Jaime gets the breakaway and I'm like, here come the Oilers. Here come the Oilers. But it just. Nothing. It was a. It was a fun hockey period, but nothing really Happened. No huge chances. And I guess credit to the Ducks for not going immediately into that prevent shell. You're not playing your game anymore, and you get rammed down your throat.
- [58:33]
B
They waited for the third period.
- [58:34]
A
Yeah. Yeah.
- [58:35]
B
They were, like, to close to clog the neutral zone.
- [58:37]
A
Yeah. So I thought it was a fun, good period, but. But not much happening, and that was surprising to me. And then, dude, you get the Hyman kick goal, which was.
- [58:48]
B
Got disallowed.
- [58:49]
A
Hilarious.
- [58:49]
B
Yeah, I. That. That, to me, was the backbreaker, too. I feel like they're like, well, we give up. Because then they got scored on right after that, right?
- [58:57]
A
Yes, immediately. And, bro, that was so funny at
- [58:59]
B
the end of the second, like.
- [59:00]
A
Yeah, yeah. Like, 30 seconds.
- [59:02]
B
When you get scored within, like, the last minute of a period, that's such a backbreaker.
- [59:05]
A
And you think you just scored with a minute left to make it 3, 2 to go into third. But, dude, that was so funny. I've actually had people ask me, why would you ever kick it when that's not allowed? And the answer to that is, shit can happen. Like, you're. Sometimes you're trying to kick it to your stick, and you just don't get your stick there in time.
- [59:21]
B
Yeah.
- [59:22]
A
But sometimes if you kick it. I'm pretty sure this is a lot. If you kick it and the goalie saves it, and then it bounces back out and you shoot it. And I'm, like, 99% sure they count that. I know if you kick it and it, like, hits the goalie and goes in, they don't go, oh, that's a goal. Because it ricochets.
- [59:36]
B
Yeah. I mean, there's a chance that the goalie totally fumbles it.
- [59:39]
A
Yeah.
- [59:39]
B
And then it's his goal. Kind of.
- [59:40]
A
Yes. But I think they still go no goal.
- [59:42]
B
Oh, really?
- [59:43]
A
I think so. I'm pretty sure the rule is, like, if I kick it and it hits the goalie and pulls up on him, and then I'm like. And I drop it in. They're like, no, but. But if you kick it and he. And it hits, like, his paddle and comes right back to you, and then you've hammered in the goal, that's a goal. So that's why you kick it. But this one just looks so funny because Hyman literally just. I mean, that is the cleanest World cup goal you will ever see in your fucking life. And Quenville was killing me on the bench because I don't know how the refs missed that. And I'm not. We are not. This is not A chirp the refs podcast. It is not.
- [60:12]
B
No.
- [60:12]
A
But the refs calling that a goal was high comedy. Quinville on the bench is like, what are you insane, dude? It's the most clear kick of all time. I actually give McDavid credit too because he's behind Hyman and he scores and McDavid goes. Cause I'm like, you know that he kicked that. But you gotta.
- [60:27]
B
Everybody half hearted fucking celebration. So good, man.
- [60:31]
A
But then you're right, dude. Right. 30 seconds later, a minute later, whatever it was. Yep.
- [60:35]
B
Troy Terry, I think that's when the game ended, dude.
- [60:38]
A
So I have a couple things to say about that. One, we questioned them going to Ingram in game five after jar and I don't think Jar is that good either. But just I was like, I don't know why you going back to Ingram. And then he. I thought he played a good game five and they. And they won comfortably. Yeah, I thought Ingram played. I'm trying to think of all the goals like Criders was. I guess cutters. He probably wanted back. Paling's obviously not his fault. But cutters, you're kind of go fuck. You should have had that one. Even though it's a one, it's a weak side one T power play like from a 40 goal scorer.
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B
Yeah.
- [61:07]
A
But like, yeah, you want that one back. This Troy Terry one. I don't even know what he was doing. You have the clip up. Like, watch this clip.
- [61:13]
B
Watching it right now.
- [61:14]
A
Watch this clip of what? I don't know what attempt of a save this is. Like, this is not that good of a shot from Terry. And it goes five hole. Like, I don't even think he's sliding over.
- [61:24]
B
I think. I think Terry shot sooner than he thought he was gonna shoot.
- [61:29]
A
Okay. Yeah.
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B
He probably thought he was gonna hold onto it a little bit longer and he was gonna like cut off that.
- [61:32]
A
Yeah, maybe.
- [61:33]
B
But then he just. Yeah, it was five hole, right?
- [61:35]
A
Yeah. Yeah. Watch this view of it. Like, can you see this? Yeah.
- [61:38]
B
Yeah. Okay.
- [61:39]
A
Watch this view of it right here. Like, look at that.
- [61:41]
B
His leg is up.
- [61:42]
A
Yeah, exactly his left. Yeah. Panger on the call was like, I don't. Because, you know, Panger was a goal. He's like, I don't know what that was. And I was like, ah, me neither. And that's a huge. To your point. That is a huge moment.
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B
No, that was. That was the end. That was the end.
- [61:57]
A
And dude in that. But I will say dude. But we had been like two goal Leads are a nightmare in this series, when this one went in, I did think we were flying V. I was like, okay, get. Get it, dude. Here we go.
- [62:07]
B
And you were waiting for the.
- [62:08]
A
The boys are flying V. And it was happening. The Oilers then. Because they're the Oilers, score immediately in the third.
- [62:17]
C
Yep.
- [62:17]
A
And. And then my thought. Then I went Duck Hunter again. I was, okay, we're back to Duck Hunter. And here comes. And this one Ev. This one is going to hurt. Being up four one in game six at home, knowing that you're going to go. You're going to have to go lose at Rogers in game seven, I was like, this. This five, four loss is going to fucking devastate people. Right End franchises, fold arenas. Like, this is over. And I should have remembered that Timo was in the building and he wouldn't have let that happen.
- [62:47]
B
He'd get down there on the ice.
- [62:48]
A
He would have suited like. Like the Ducks. Like, you know, when Russ Tyler is the knuckle puck guy, is dressed as the goalie.
- [62:54]
B
Yeah.
- [62:55]
A
I think they would have done a back pass to. To do still. And he goes like this. And it's teemu. And they're like, oh, my God. He fires one in from center ice, goes glove off, shoots the gun. Sully, I know he did that for the jets, but still, he can do it for the Ducks. He.
- [63:09]
B
He has the copyright on that.
- [63:10]
A
He has the copyright on that. That's his. But, dude, I gotta say, man, after the early third period goal, an awful leg. The surge just never came. The surge never came.
- [63:22]
B
They're tired.
- [63:23]
A
They're tired. I think you're right. You know. Hey, you know, in Euro Trip. You seen that movie?
- [63:29]
B
No, dude, I have not seen Euro.
- [63:30]
A
You've never seen Euro Trip? I think.
- [63:32]
B
When did that come out?
- [63:33]
A
Oh, 2002. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [63:36]
B
I missed that one, bro.
- [63:37]
A
You need to. Your homework this weekend is to watch Euro Trip.
- [63:39]
B
Great. My homework is watch your.
- [63:41]
A
It's incredible. I mean, it's, like, ridiculous.
- [63:42]
B
Is that Tom Green's in it, right? Is he like, bit in the hand by a snake, I think.
- [63:46]
A
Oh, dude, no, that's.
- [63:49]
B
That's your trip.
- [63:50]
A
No, dude, that is Road Trip. Oh, and he is get bit by a snake. And he also confuses Austin and Boston in that movie. And it's in. That is the crux of the drama of the conflict.
- [64:03]
B
Okay, okay. That was Road Trip. This is Euro Trip. Too many trips.
- [64:07]
A
Euro Trip is tremendous.
- [64:08]
B
Freddy Got Fingered is one of my favorite companies of all time. I will say that.
- [64:13]
A
What car is that? The LeBaron yeah, the red Lebaron.
- [64:18]
B
Anyway, dude, we digress.
- [64:21]
A
You need to watch Eurotrip. But there is a scene in Eurotrip where they go to a nude beach because they're like, this will be awesome.
- [64:27]
B
Yeah, they're in Europe and they go
- [64:28]
A
to a nude beach and it is all dudes. Actually, no, wait, that does happen in this movie. But that's not even the joke I'm looking for. The joke I'm looking for is he watches the main character really high at an Amsterdam cafe. No spoilers, because you'll get this later. But he. That people are like admitting stuff. And he says he watches a gay porn. He watched gay porn once. And they're like, you did? And he goes, I thought it was a regular porn. And there were two guys. I was like, oh, it's two guys on a girl. And then the girls never came. And he's like, I did. You know, I was like watching and watching. And then the girls never came.
- [65:04]
B
The girls never. So that's how you feel about the Surge never came.
- [65:07]
A
I was watching this. Like this. I got my popcorn, dude. I was so ready. Here comes a McDavid two goal job, including one end to end highlight reel that we'll talk about forever. We get overtime, I get pissed about no Empty Netter. And then Dry Saddle scores in overtime and we're going to game seven.
- [65:21]
B
Yeah.
- [65:21]
A
And then the Surge never came. I was so ready, dude. And the Surge never had his fucking Celsius stay up all night. And then the game just ended.
- [65:28]
B
But like gay porn. Somebody got fucked.
- [65:30]
A
Somebody was fucked.
- [65:31]
B
And it was the Oilers.
- [65:32]
A
And it was the Oilers dude. Leo, I talked about this with Dan while you were gone. But Leo, Empty Netter. I wanted it to be crier, but it's okay. The Ducks dude can win the next series.
- [65:44]
B
Yeah. Because it's going to be Utah. Utah or Vegas. Absolutely. We could very easily see ducks versus, let's say AVs or Minnesota. But I, you know, I mean, hell, they could be in the conference finals.
- [65:58]
A
Ducks power play 8 for 16. We were talking about this one for two last night. The Oilers were 4 for 14 in the series. 28.6%. Which their. Their regular season they were 30.1. Led the league, right. 28.6. When I was thinking about when I looked this stat up, I was like, I bet their power play has been awful. Because that's what it felt like, right? 28.6 is actually fine. Would have nearly led the NHL. But I guess we've just seen in the past the Oilers power Play the Oiler special teams be such a difference in the playoffs. Literally. They're usually 50%. Their penalty kills. Incredible. To have their PK go, go 50, which is a nightmare. And then their power play be good, but just not as good as the Ducks. I mean, they did not. They did. Certainly didn't see that coming. And that was a massive difference.
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B
Nobody saw this coming.
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A
Nobody saw that.
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I mean, I can't say nobody because we did kind of see them sputter. Right?
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Yeah.
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This year. But you still kind of think at least they're going to get past the first round.
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I know.
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Ducks were younger and it faster too.
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They outrushed them. Yes. Dude, Dan said this, a version of this quote, but it said in one of the articles it said Connor McDavid felt the Edmonton Oilers did not have the team to live up to the lofty expectations. We've been searching for consistency all year and obviously we didn't find it here in the playoffs. It's tough. We were an average team all year. An average team with high expectations. You're going to be disappointed. We just never found it. Everything he just said is correct. What's weird to me is, in my opinion, they have been an average team for three years in a row. Like, I look at this roster and there's no. You don't go, oh my God, I see what happened this year. You lost Jason Robertson and blah, blah, blah. Like you are. You have exactly the same good players. And Evan Bouchard had an all time year and missed me with any goalie issues. Because you've had goalie issues for three years.
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Right.
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So it's kind of weird. They're hurt 100%. Like, obviously he is. I cannot wait to hear the facts about what's happened to him, what's happened to Leon. Like, all three of their centers are hurt. They are very hurt, but. And they're very tired. To your point. But I'm like, you have the same team. Like the same team. Yeah.
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B
I mean, look this. We don't have to get into this in depth, but what do you think about McDavid's future?
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Dude? Well, I did want to talk about it because I've waffled on this. There was a stretch where I was like, he will never leave. He would rather die than leave. And then there was a stretch before this contract negotiation that I was like, oh my God, he could leave. And I kind of don't blame him because he's not getting the support he wants. Then he wrote that Players Tribune article for the Olympics or Maybe it was four nations, but I think the Olympics.
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No, it was for the Olympics. It was this year, right? Yeah, yeah, it was right before the Olympics.
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And I was like, oh, my God, McDavid would rather die than leave the Oilers.
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B
Right.
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But I do believe we'll never find this out. I mean, maybe his friends and wife know. But I do believe that the reason he signed this two year, the deal he did is. And not committing was to not commit long term, because he was like, I'm going to entertain leaving. Otherwise, just sign an eight year and be on your marriage. Make it easy on them, you know? So I refuse to believe that he won't consider it because of the contract he signed. And I'm sure there were conversations that were like, we need to get better. And he's out here going like this, direct quote. We don't have the team to live up to our expectations. So I'm like. And then you go, how is this your goalie room? But on the other hand, you go, it's not like you can just get teams, good goalies, they want them. You know what I mean?
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I think goaltending across the league is kind of down, right? It feels like they're all a little
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average scoring's up and save percentages down. Like, it's actually been a crazy thing. Yeah, but dude, you have to go. So it's very hard to go to the Oilers, hey, make a move. Go trade for. Go get Gustafson from the Wild. And that's actually a good example because maybe they're like, we have Walstead, we don't care. But it's just. My point is, it's not easy for this Oilers brass to just go give Conor his A plus goalie. Right? Like, that's a hard thing. So this year they get a pass, I think, where he's like, I don't know. We made a trade. Like, we got Skinner out. We got Jari. Didn't work.
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Work.
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We got Ingram. It didn't work. But, like, we made a trade. Thank you for trying. Yeah, I. He. I. Dude, I've been getting a lot of texts from people who do this. You know, we have fun. These people do this. And I'm getting texts from people, like, being like, he could go. I'm not saying he's going.
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You mean this. This summer? This summer, yeah.
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Like, see you later.
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B
Where. Where is he going? Detroit.
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I got a lot of things. Detroit's actually a popular one. LA is a popular one, which would be fucking epic.
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Do you think he wants to stay in Canada, though. Do you think that matters? Because I'm assuming he has. He gets to say where he gets to go.
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Oh, dude, 1,000. Yeah, 1,000%. And, dude, he. I think he won't stay in Canada because I think that would be harder for him, honestly. But also for the fan base as well. Like, if he goes to just another Canadian team, they're kind of like, damn,
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dude, can you imagine if he went to the Leafs, bro?
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Like, it would be insane.
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One nightmare for another.
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Yeah. But if he goes, and I'm sure he would like a little bit less, he's never gonna get zero scrutiny. He's Connor McDavid. But I'm sure he would like a little bit less scrutiny.
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Sure.
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And Toronto is a.
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That's more. Somehow.
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That's more disaster.
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Yeah.
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But he comes to the Kings, and he's, like, sick. Whatever. I'm having a blast. Boom. King's Ransom, Part 2. Gretzky to the LA. McDavid to LA.
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Dude, anybody from LA would never be allowed to go to Edmonton ever again.
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Yeah.
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Correct.
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Insane. So twice, I think he could. I think the Oilers probably. And again, I'm getting texted about this summer.
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Yeah.
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I'm thinking the Oilers probably get a pass this summer because of. We tried. Whatever. But I will tell you, because I think his two years are about to kick, and he won't walk for free. I don't think. I don't believe he would ever do that to this team. So next year, if they suck next year.
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Yeah, next year's the year. Really?
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Biden, the 100%. The one you come back to is like, could he do that to Leon? Which would suck, like, 100. Leon will be like, bro. But it's. It's this man's career, dude. Like, it's like, they're not friends anymore. Leon will understand, obviously. Maybe Leon leaves in a couple years.
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Right.
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Who knows? Certainly, I have a lot of people telling me there's no way Connor will leave. He'd rather die and never win a cup with Leon. And I'm like, incorrect.
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I know you obviously want to win a cup, and look, I think that it's. I think hockey players, especially are more loyal than any other athlete when it comes to, like, wanting to stay with the team. Typically, I look at, like, Sid, the last superstar before McDavid, and he wants to be a career penguin, but that works because he won three championships.
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Yes.
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And so then you're allowed to play out your career, and realistically, everybody gives you a pat on the back because they're like, well, you might not be winning now, but, like, hey, man, you did so much for this franchise that of course you can retire here. And you probably don't want to move on because that legacy means more to you. But if you haven't won it many cups, then you gotta, like, wash your hands of it at a certain point and go, like, I need to move on. I'm the best player in the league, and I don't even know how many more years that's going to be true, dude.
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Like, and we all take him for granted, bro. Like, he's been around so long, and we're like, David.
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So we keep thinking he's a rookie, but he isn't.
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He's 29, dude. Like, and I. That's not old, obviously.
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No, it's not old, but it's.
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He's been in the league was like, 12 years in a row where he hasn't won. And I'm like. And it's hard. It's hard to win. The COP OVI went however many years, right? Like this. It's not. It's not easy. But eventually I'm like, dude, what is happening? Like, we are not in the mixer here. And we feel like we're going this way, which is scary.
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It's a bummer.
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So I will leave it at this. I cannot fathom that the Western Conference final of the last two years, Dallas Edmonton. Dallas Edmonton, two years in a row are Both golfing on May 1st. That is crazy. Years change. But. But they got beat by better teams. They got beat by better teams in this series. I'm not saying in the big stretch, but they got beat. The better team won in both of those series. And I think Dallas and Edmonton both have some serious splaining to do and some serious questions to answer this summer. Caps going up. A lot of cap space. The Oilers, they have a lot of cap space, but they're only 19th in the league. But they do have, like, maybe 16, maybe more million. I think Boosh is up maybe. So you gotta, like, figure that out or. No, he just signed. They gotta figure out some shit. But they're definitely gonna try to build. This is the moment. Right? Like, if Conor doesn't go this summer, which. I don't think so. I'm getting text, but I don't think so. But this is the summer where you need to build a team that keeps Connor McDavid. Yes. So heavy pressure on who you sign, any trade you make. Because it's like, okay, this is the
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roster that Stan Bowman, you're on Watch right now.
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Yeah. This is the roster that will either piss him off or not. And I also want to say, I know Dan said on his thing, our long travel nightmare is over because it is a bag to go to Edmonton. To Edmonton. We can never. There's like, no good flights, no direct flight. It's just such a grind. But as I said on the interview with Dan, I have so much love for that place. I have so much love for the people there.
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B
That was a hockey crazed city, dude.
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And I was getting a bunch of texts from my friends there last night, and, dude, I don't need to. Vancouver burned the city down once, and people will never let them forget it. So I don't mean to pile on for that reason.
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Sure.
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But there was no burning the city down in a bad way. They were burning it down in a good way. Every text I get was packed bars, everyone. What did I say about Buffalo and Boston last episode? I love when communities go, let's be miserable together. Like, our team lost and let's.
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So they all got together and got drunk.
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Everyone was out at the bars, boozing, being sad. But all the video messages I was getting was like, next year, baby. Next year's our year. And I was like, that is why I fucking love them. That is why I love the Oilers because they have that and they will fight. They will fight until the fucking very end. And if they lose, they will get back up and fight again next year.
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B
Hey, man. It's apparently the best ice in the league, I've heard.
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Yeah. Them in Montreal. Montreal, they'll say, as far as, like,
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the quality of the ice, obviously it's incredibly cold up there, so it's probably easier. But yeah, I. I'm. I really like McDavid, and I hope that he gets his championship and I really hope that it happens in Edmonton for. Just for the story of it. But, yeah, they pretty much have a year, right? That's. It's go time.
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Biggest, big dude. No joke, because I guess you didn't really know the Gretzky thing was about to happen. Like, that snuck up on everybody.
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B
Yeah.
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I'm willing to say that this is the most important season in the history of the Edmonton Oilers franchise. This upcoming season. Legitimately, you don't have to win, but you need to. You need to get very close and you need to go, wow, we got upset because. And we had the perfect roster. You know, you cannot feel inferior next year.
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B
No, you get. Yeah, you got to be super confident coming in.
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Yep.
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And hopefully the. The injuries will subside.
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And yeah, yeah, yeah. God. You gotta get a little luck.
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B
Yeah.
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Holy shit. So Ev, we got. We got some action tonight. Let's just say who we. Who we got some of the games we have.
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Let me pull it up.
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Oh my God. Three all time game sixes. Tampa Canadiens in Montreal. Very similar to the Minnesota series here for me because this is. This is habs who have looked better and it's surprising to me that they've looked better. And now they won a massive game five on the road and now they're home for game six in front of a rocking crowd. Who really wants it? I would love to a game seven there. Feels like Montreal to me the way the series has gone.
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B
Do you think. Do you think they're going to win tonight? Montreal?
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Yeah. Because it felt like Minnesota to me too. In the same. For the same reason I was like, you've been better.
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I don't know though. Remember we were talking about how Tampa Bay kind of ebbs and flows where they. They have these moments where you think they're down and out and then they come back. I know it happened all season. So maybe they have a little more. I mean, I never count out John Cooper.
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I know.
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Can he rally these boys?
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Yep. Tampa needs more from their depth. Actually they need more from their. From their star sticks. We were talking about that. But they need, they need some. The bottom six to not be getting scored on a million times by Montreal's bottom six.
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And a big bounce back game from Vassy too.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Got need to shutter Bruin Sabres.
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I. I know who you want to win.
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I know you know who I want to win. And I actually believe will win. I actually think they can though because Sway's been incredible. They're at home, but it's. They lost both home games already in this series. Like to lose all three games in Boston would be a fucking tragedy. It just feels like you can get this one. And I will be picking Buffalo in game seven probably. Unless Sway posts another Unless post. Sway post a shutout and it's just unconscious. I think Buffalo can win this series still, but I think Boston can maybe steal this one at home. But it will be close. This will not be the Bruins. The bloodbath the Bruins gave the Sabres in game two is not coming again. The Sabres are too dialed right now. So this one is going to be tight. Maybe OT again again, Ev. Maybe OT again here and then mammoth Vegas. God, I'm just drunk on game sevens. But I just think the Mammoth can win this game. They've been so good. And it's like, man, they're home. The Delta Center. I think they win this game and go back to Vegas and maybe they lose that one. But I think they can. I think they can push this to seven.
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B
I really do too. I think that they're going to play for those fans who are so hungry and excited. And I've. Like I've said before, I'm very of the resilience of the, of the Mammoth.
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A
Same.
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B
But again, it's like this is a roster. I forget, but I don't know the exact number. But I think there are a fair number of Stanley cup winners on that roster.
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On, on. On the Mammoth.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I don't know if that's right.
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B
Is that, is that not true? Maybe I'm thinking another team.
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Vegas got some. Obviously. I mean they were the yotes and they hadn't won shit.
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B
Mammoth roster, Stanley cup winners. I want to, I want to look that up because.
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A
Yeah. See if anyone's won a Cup on the Mammoth. Oh, Nate Schmidt, Panthers. Sergachev.
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B
Oh, not that many. Well, okay, what do we got? Well, you know, it's not. This is not definitive.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. We get this when we go to the botch Vanichek. Oh yeah. Okay, so. But more than I thought though.
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B
No. Yeah. Okay. So it was. Wasn't as many as I thought. But I'm just saying. Well, anytime you have Brandon Tan ev
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on your team, dude, good things happen. He's the one who has that crazy good things happen.
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B
Yeah, man. I'm. I'm excited for this game too. I do think probably if I had to pick Vegas in seven at this point, I would switch my pick to Vegas in seven.
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Yeah, I feel good about that because
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B
the experience in torts, but I do feel like Mammoth are going to put up a good fight.
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I think, I think we've. I think we deserve a seven there. I think we deserve seven in that series. That's been so fun.
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B
We. We need to get a game seven at least.
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I mean, actually, actually, ev. Fantastic point. Hold on. Because it would be. I said we were going to get fucking six of them and then I didn't get the Pit one. I didn't get the Edmonton one. I didn't get the Dallas one. So then there's only these three left and if we get none, because there's a chance these just all end. If we get none of these, that would be awful.
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B
That'd be tragic.
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A
We actually. Dude, I'm glad you just brought that up. We fucking need one of these.
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B
We need one of them has to
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go one of these. Give me two. But I'd take three.
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B
I would. I mean, I. I'm more. I'm more of an Eastern Conference guy because I grew up on the Eastern Conference, so I would love to see a Montreal, Tampa or a Buffalo Boston game.
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So that would be fucking awesome.
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B
Just. Yeah, so gamers.
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A
Okay. That's all I got, dude.
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B
Yeah, that's it. We got. Well, we got big games tonight. We gotta. We gotta get some rest. And then we gotta watch them.
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A
Then we gotta watch.
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B
So everybody rest up, tune in, have
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A
a fucking great weekend and feed us some game sevens. And until then, skate hard.
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