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Live this afternoon, you've got MT Netters live playoff edition brought to you by BetMGM. I'm your host, Dan Powers, along with this broken handed dipshit, Chris Powers. We are back in studio, back from Tampa, back on the sticks, rockin rock hard, ready to go. And Pittsburgh is dead. As always. I hate to say it. Dr. Watkins is not here behind the sticks because he is in mourning.
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Yep.
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Morning.
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Is your camera on, David? Bang. There he is.
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Let's go say hi to David, everybody. This is, this is Dr. Watkins, surrogate.
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Yes. Okay. I like that.
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Whenever he's in significant trouble, this is what, this is what happens. David comes in and saves the day. But as you know folks, this is, this is what we go, this is what we got when it's playoff time, you got your live shows. We're coming to you every single day with content every single day. Breaking down the games, breaking down. What's going on? We're going to start with pit Philly and Holy man. It's like I, I, we said, Philly gets two games on the road, but this is Sydney Crosby we're talking about. This is this hot, red hot Penguins team all season that we're talking about. They could come in on the road, they could come in and. Bad baby, Bad baby. Those Philly fans. And they started to do it well,
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dude, I gotta say. And also everyone in the chat appreciate you guys rocking with us with the schedule changing and all. You know, I know we're gonna try to get more consistent. We've been on the road, it's epic. Everything's been awesome. Playoffs. I forgot how little we sleep during playoffs because we get this, we watch every game and then we get this. We're recording till 1am Waking up early for the lives we land yesterday. And we were, I was kind of grinding on that flight and then at the end of the flight, you saw me, I just hit a wall. Yeah, I was so tired. So we get back and I'm literally racing back to try to get to the Penguins to watch the Penguins game. And I'm like, man, I have 20 minutes before puck drop. I'm just gonna try to hit a little random, you know those like Navy SEAL power naps where like they put their feet up.
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Yeah.
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So I was like, I'm just gonna get, I'm gonna do that and, and then, then I'll be ready to go. Can barely fall asleep, even though I'm so tired. Kind of fall asleep for one second, wake up to my alarm for the game and I just I'm full zombie trying to start that game. I'm like, I'm gonna fall asleep during this.
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Sure.
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And then the Penguins were like,
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all over.
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And literally in the first five minutes, I was like, I didn't. I had got a Celsius. Didn't even fucking need it. Didn't even need it. That's the best.
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Why would you.
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That's the best they've looked. I guess they did look good in the third period. Eric Carlson said they'd been outplayed for six periods coming into that game. I actually thought they outplayed the Flyers in period three of game two. But that first five minutes, I was like, oh, my God, this is Phillies nightmare, literally. Penguins had nine shots in five minutes and a Malkin power play goal on a tic Tac toe from Sid and whoever the fuck else. And I was like, buddy, you're dead.
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The fact that it was a Malin peeper goal was particularly special. I was like, okay, they're going, they're firing shots. They're coming out hot on the road. And then they get the peeper going. They get a 1 nothing lead in the first period. It felt all to script. I was like. And here we go. It's going to be the reverse. Two, two. Philly gets two on the road. Now Pitt gets two on the road. That's what it felt like was happening.
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Exactly. And then pretty quickly, at least for me, after the first 10 minutes, probably, yeah. The Flyers, they eventually will dominate this game. They weren't dominating yet, but they completely reset in a way that there was no. I was. I was actually terrified if I was a Penguins fan. After the first 10 minutes you had, where everything you said was true, reassert your dominance in the series. The Flyers righted that ship so quickly by the end of the first that it was trouble in paradise immediately.
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Yeah. I mean, going into the second, were you thinking to yourself, okay, this is going to be all pit all day, or were you like, this is a reset. Talk's going to get them restructured and this is going to be a totally different ball game?
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No. I was like, we're fucked.
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Who's we?
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The Penguins.
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Okay.
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I was literally like. After the first. The beginning, I went. The first 10 minutes, I went, yep, pick. Pitt's gonna win this game. You know, four or five. One.
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Yeah.
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And then game four will be tough, but I bet they can steal it. And then it's, you know, it's an awesome Best of 3 Series. We'll see what happens for sure. By the end of the first, I was like, if pit wins this game, it's going to be a like 2, 1, 3, 2, tooth and nail with your fingernails. And then. So. It was brutal. It was absolutely brutal.
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I think what's great for content is in every. You're on one team and I'm on the other.
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Yeah.
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We'll go head to head. So I'm gonna do something very daring right now, and I'm gonna ride with the Flyers. It's gonna be a tough battle for me.
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Well, no, dude, it is.
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No, no, it's. I mean, listen, it's like the. The series is basically even. So this is risky by me.
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This is bold. But.
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So I'm in on Philly and yeah, I think we've got the edge on you right now.
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And dude, it's crazy because I think I've said this on the show before, but the guy that lives above me, Irv, is a legend and is a Flyers believer. Has always been. And he's going crazy above the house. Right? Like every time we get a sick Flyers goal, I can hear him going nuts. I. He went to Flyers Kings this year. He's been on this train. He said they're going to make playoffs. They did. So it's actually sharp for me. It's actually hard for me to even. I. I actually got to mourn the Penguins earlier than I would have normally because I just went, you know what? They don't. They don't have it.
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You don't have it.
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Yeah. And I'm happy for Irv. I'm happy for Irv. So now I really want to get to
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the.
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The moment of the game, in my opinion, the Penguins.
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I do have to say real quick on that earth thing, when we. A lot of people have said this. When the Flyers are good and when the Flyers are in playoffs, it's good for hockey.
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I agree.
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Did you see Dave? I don't know if you saw, but it's like they're showing the new ratings for these first round matchups, the most watched first round matchups in NHL history. And Flyers Pens is number one.
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Really?
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And I promise you that's a huge Philly thing we got. Dr. Lock styled it, correct?
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Yeah.
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He's sending me pictures last night. He's watching the fucking games.
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He's. He's caulking the walk around town.
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The fact that my guy locks never
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seen a hockey game in his life,
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the fact that Loxy is watching means we've got fucking special shit going on here. So I know what you want to get to big stuff going on here.
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So, my boy, this game. Evan said at the start of this series, the Penguins are better, and they need to not get caught in the mud. Phillies gonna want to take this to the mud. Don't do it.
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Yeah.
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And I actually think. And maybe I'm blacking out one of the games before, but the. It wasn't. It hasn't been as chippy as some of these other series we've seen. I. I think until. Until last game, when there's a million people in the penalty box, I might be forgetting something. Anyway, I'm watching the game. I forget what the score was already. Do you know? I think it certainly won one.
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Right. Well, I. Let's. Let's check. I can check when that penalty happened.
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So I am watching the game, and the camera is, like, somewhere else, and it cuts back, and I can hear the crowd, and Sid is on the ice. And I. In my notes, I literally put, oh, my God.
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It was first period. So it was one nothing.
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It was one nothing. Okay. Yeah. So I go, oh, my God. What happened to Sid? Because it would. Or at least by the time I saw. I don't know if they showed it the first time, but at least by the time I saw it said just on the ice, and he's kind of, like, holding his head, looking around. I was like, holy shit. I thought there was a sniper in the crowd, dude. I thought someone took him out. I thought OVI was in the crowd and said, enough of this.
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Yeah.
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Then they show the replay, and I texted you guys immediately. And I was like, literally, arrest Garney right now. Call the police. Eject him. Call the police. Send him to jail. Which. To which Nate and Evan immediately chime in. Agree. Would you. I know shit that you chime in. I can't believe Chris found two Sid Truthers to join.
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It's like a worst thing that could have possibly happened to me.
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So he goes down. Now, the facts of the matter are they call Hathaway for a high stick, then they also call Sid for embellishment. Just on the facts of the situation, do you have. What is your response to the. To the outcome?
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I've got tons of thoughts. It was. The outcome was just.
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I just want that first.
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The outcome was fair.
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Okay. I agree. Unfortunately, I agree. And I was ready to be like, this is. But I think the point of that rule. The point of that rule is you're just not supposed to make look ridiculous.
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Yeah.
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And I think Sid could have easily gone like this, like, and really pulled his head back. And grabbed his head and got the Hathaway call.
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And I, I. I disagree. I think I've said it just been like, oh, shit. I think, Yeah. I think if he had just gone like this. And I'm. I'm speaking with Garnet as a close person.
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I know, I know.
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I know that those in the live who are not aware, high school teammates, buddies. I know Garnet. Well. Garnet.
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Oh, dude.
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Garnet can mix it up.
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Yep.
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He is. I mean, this is a guy who's fucking 34 years old and has been in the league for over a decade because he redefined himself. I mean, like, we're talking about a star stud player in high school and college who then was like, I can be a fourth line grinder, and I can get under your skin. He knows how to get under your skin. Y. I think that was an accident.
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Me, too.
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And I think if Sid had been like, oh. Garnet would have been like, oh, sorry. And Sid would have been like, whatever, it's fine. I. And I think they would have gone like this. So they were lining up for the face off.
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I know. And it was definitely or not definitely. But I think. I also agree with you. I think it was an accident. I just wonder. So what do you think is better? What do you think would have been the better outcome for the Penguins? Sid to go like this. Oh, and then go, yo. And Garney goes, sorry. And then Sid goes all good. And we just play that. That's better than the matching high stick and embellishment.
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Yes. Because I think it gets the Pens guys fired up because they're like this. Did you just fucking accidentally high stick Sid in the face? And then they want blood. But then Sid flops, gets an unsportsmanlike, and everyone's like. And then now you've got them in the box, and. And Garney's beaking Sidney Crosby.
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Yes. Which is awesome. That's why I thought, could you imagine.
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Could you imagine getting in the league? Everyone loves Sid. Everyone admires Garney. Admires.
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Yeah.
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I mean, that's a guy that you look up to that you want to be like. And Garnet Hathaway gets to go like this. I am so such an established NHL player that in the playoffs, when we're up 20 on them, soon to be 3 0, I get to call Sidney Crosby a. Do you have any idea how few people on Earth get to call Cindy Crosby A?
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I. That's why I thought it actually was a nightmare scenario, because, A, you're now trading. No offense, Garney. He would say this, but you're now trading half for Sid in the box.
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Yeah.
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Like, the Flyers take that every time all day. And I think the Flyers get extra juice from that because they go, you.
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Yes.
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You flopped. And now it's just eat. We didn't even get a power plate. You know, like, all the juice from that outcome went to Philly as.
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As was evidence of what happened in the second period.
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So I want to say, though, I will say this, I slightly disagree with you in that I think he could have gotten a call without going down. I think there's a version. I think there's a needle thread where he gets the call and doesn't take an embellishment. I think if he went like this. Oh, the dude. And then the ref was like, whoa, what happened? And then one ref came in and went, he. He got him.
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Yeah.
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I think he gets the call. And then. And then Garnet still goes, you. Because he's so mad, because he goes, that was clearly an accident. Which I will. I'm willing to believe. And I actually think this is probably my Sid homer. No. I don't know. I actually think that can be a call. You hit him in the face with your stick. And he's like, I didn't mean to. And I'm like, I don't give a. You hit him in the face.
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It just wasn't that hard.
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I know, but you hit him in the face.
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Listen, it doesn't feel good. You don't believe accidents can happen.
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No, I do, but I think you have to be. Accidents happen in the game, and that gets called. These are.
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Yeah, but that's. That's through in the rate of play. The fact that it was on the face off is why I'm like. I feel like that could have just been washed.
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Yeah.
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There was a part of me that even after the flop, after everything, I almost wanted the refs to just wipe everything and be like this. Garnet, control your fucking stick. Sid, enough.
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That actually would have been awesome. It would have been awesome. Somebody said, let me see if I can find this comment from up here. Somebody said, Cole. Cole says 21 years without an embellishment call and gets one when he gets a twig to the nose. That I actually kind of agree with. I'm not saying he didn't embellish. He did. But they never call Sid for embellishment. And I'm like, this is the tie. This is the moment in Sid's entire career in a playoff game that they're beating Philly, trying to climb out of a hole and he actually got hit in the face. This is the time you slap Sid on the wrist.
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This is clear ageism at its finest. They're officially going, don't. We don't care. We do not care about Sid anymore.
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Yep.
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You're an old man. You can't be fly. He fell down cuz he's old. That's what they're saying.
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Someone saying. Did you guys see this interaction with Sid in the Philly fan in the penalty box? I actually didn't see that.
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I actually didn't either.
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I hope some. If anyone on this chat can find that on Twitter or something, send it to us and we'll watch it right now. Oh, I forgot that outside. Well, I'll get it later.
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What do you got outside?
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You'll see. You'll see, pal. You'll fucking.
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Will I. Are you gonna leave the live to go get something outside?
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Filibuster. Filibuster.
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Oh, I can filibuster.
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I'm a great filibuster. So right after that, Zegras fucking Hammers home a one timer on a power play, which was awesome. And then in my opinion, there was a terrible wrist aligning goal from Stu Skinner.
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Yeah, not one you want to see. Let's focus on the Zegras goal for a second, okay?
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Yep.
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I like the Zegras goal so much for so many reasons. Number one, it's about five minutes into that second period when, yeah, it did feel like the Momo had shifted for Philly. They go out, they get a peeper. Just a great quick pass and it wasn't even. Didn't even get Stu off his line that much. And Z just hammered it. Like that is when you know you're feeling it. He's like, I, you know, I can see in the corner of my eye, Stu is in that. Stu is locked in and ready to go. I'm fucking letting this rip. And he just tucked it near side. Beautiful goal. Porter Martone on the assist continuing to be just so fucking high.
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Dude, can I tell you a sick Porter Marton moment, please. I saw this happen and it's a nothing thing, but I was like, wow, that is so dope. How good he is and just how ready he is.
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He.
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It was. He's on this wall. Zegras is on that wall for the one tees right? He. And the puck goes to. Who is it? Maybe Drysdale's up top. It goes to. I believe so he kicks to Zegras and dude, Zegras obviously we just said he Had a sick one T there. Zegras is usually the facilitator on that power play. So he knows what he's doing. He's Trevor Zegras, right? It goes over to Zegras and he's kind of stick handing looking. And I'm watching Porter Martone who's like in the seam and it's kind of taken. And Porter Martone takes a stick and points at Drysdale and goes to be like, pass it back up there. And I was like, porter Barton is directing Trevor Zegras around a power play. Conducting, you know, I was like, holy shit, this kid is fucking NHL ready, dude.
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The way Porter has come in and just been like, I don't give a fuck.
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That was fucking fun.
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And that's what you get when you're buzzing in college. You're, you know, tournament ends earlier than you would have wanted, but you're flying. You come in and you go, I got, I've got all the Juice. Yeah, I'm gonna give you the Juice, dude. Going to give you the juice.
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You need the juice sponsorship. It's insane.
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Fantastic goal by Z. And then, yes, you get the Risto goal. First playoff goal for Wristeline. Yeah, been in the league for a minute and Ristalain and getting his first taste of playoff hockey, comes in and gets that goal. That's got to feel good.
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And dude, at this point the shots were like, I think I maybe wrote this wrong, but the shots were like completely even after starting 93 Penguins for those first five minutes. And I was like, or maybe I didn't even write it wrong. I wrote 2113 flyers. Which is possible, but that might have been a typo. But either way, it was just like, oh, no, this game is over. Like, here it comes, here comes the onset.
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I'm not going to lie. You know, you, Nate and Evan were. We're all in your feelings at that moment. But yeah, I'm not going to lie, buddy. Two, one. I went night night. Yeah, truly did. It was.
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That's what. And that never feels like that in playoffs. Normally a one goal game, but this really.
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I agree. But with this series and just, I mean, again, we have seen so many unbelievable energy moments from the Barnes across this, this league in this first round. And just the way the crowd pop at that second goal. I mean, the Zegras goal. Yes, but the second goal, it was like, nice power play goal, guys. Congratulations. We're fucking back. And I was like, oh, oh boy. Like, Philly is not fucking around, bro.
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And then you get another Fourth line goal, Nick Sealer. Yep. And. And that's another one where I'm like, how that.
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That Garni, by the way, was a huge factor.
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Yes. Because he just. And I. Because he had just changed. And then when it went in, he's on the bench, like, just like hammering the wall. And I was like, garnie's having the time of his.
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Oh, yeah, this is awesome.
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That's another one where I go, stu Skinner just has to see that shot. Yeah, it's a. It's a wrist shot to the point. And it's. Dude, there are screens. It's. It's for sure people in front of net, but you just. You're a professional goal. You have to see that shot. And unfortunately, we were all making comments like, oh, man, Stu could get hot. Stu could go nuclear. The Penguins could make a run. But this is the other stew that we have seen before. This is the stew that the Oilers fans hated. And I felt like that was the stew you were getting a little bit last night where I was like, buddy, we gotta have these saves.
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No doubt about it. No doubt about it. And this is. You love seeing there are teams, right, that. That get carried through series, certain series by their top guys.
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Yep.
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There are teams who absolutely need to rely on secondary scoring. We saw the Oilers in the first game, you had two goals from Dickinson, two goals from Kapanen, and you're like, yep, that's what you need. The Flyers are. They. They have got a ton of talent. And I think that's a. That's a fallacy with this team. They. There was a person on Twitter yesterday who was like, beacon. The Flyers being. Because I was like, flyers are a fucking contender. Just like, trying to get people juiced up. And then you. You always get that these people, like, well, technically, their second line is only blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, dude, if you're going to like. They're like, you have Owen Tippett and Tyson Forrester on your first line, and you think that's a contender. And I'm like, well, they're shit pumping pit right now, so I don't know what to tell you. And at the end of the day, it's like, if you don't think that line. And then TK Dvorak and Martone in the second line isn't. And you have Mitch Cops. You know, like, that's. This is a good team. They're constructed well. And this is the type of group that is going to get a lot of juice. A lot of juice. From your bottom line.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And this was a game where you get a little bit of action from Pitt and then the, the dogs come in and just slap pit in the mouth and it's like, fuck, you might be dead.
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So they get the Carlson power play goal, which was nice because it was another power play goal which had been so quiet, but again, but also a weird double edged sword where you're like, you're still doing nothing five on five against this Philly team. But three, two. And I admit, even I was like, maybe, maybe you claw this back and steal this game. You know, whatever.
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Yeah.
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And then this is going to be a theme of this live. But then another delay of game, man, the backhand into the crowd. And dude, it's so crazy because I understand that I am going to talk out of both sides of my mouth in that I, I preach, I beg players. When you have the puck in your zone on your tape with time in the playoffs, you literally have to get it out. If you turn that over, it's a goal. But also you can't flip it into the crowd. So I know I'm like, I'm on each side of this thing, but I'm like, how fucking hard is it to just get it out without launching it into the fucking crowd? Hard. So bang, another delay again.
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Because, you know, it's also one of those funny things where you're like, there is no worse feeling anyone who plays hockey. I mean, there's a lot of fucking dipshit podcasters and journals who have never played hockey and they're like, oh, do this. And I'm like, shut the fuck up, nerd. Yeah, there is no worse feeling than when you were like, gotta get this puck out. And you just flub it and it just is on the ice. Or like this high on the ice. That is worse than putting it over the glass. Straight up. I'd almost rather take a penalty and be like this. I fucking got it up, dude.
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At least I can get it up.
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You know, it is so shit when you get the puck on your stick and you're like, get this puck out. And you just try to put too much into it. It's just on the ice and you're like, I'm a fucking.
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Just pass along to the midd.
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I am so bad at hockey. It's unbelievable.
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Insane.
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So it happens because you were like, get this puck in the air and then you put it through the fucking ceiling. And you're like, well, sorry everybody.
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So, Flyers, back to the power play. Skinner, some flowers he actually made a great save on the Cates breakaway, which was. Yes, he sure did. To start it. But then I just thought the Penguins gave Cates way too much space down on that goal line there. He had all the time in the world to catch that pass, turn around. And Skinner didn't get a stick out. No one got a stick on him. He pulled it all the way around and roofed that shit.
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Yeah.
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Bang. Goal. Tip an empty neck. Goal. How's your mother? It's like everyone always says. Bugsy said it to us two days ago. The fourth wins the hardest. You don't understand that team changes their mentality.
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Yes.
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To me, Dan,
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you're bringing the broom out.
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It just. I just don't know. I don't know what's going on.
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This, for me, was a great example of when a team sees the fight, they see the desperation in the other team's eyes. Pitt had desperation. They come out, they get that first power play goal. They get the power play going.
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Yeah.
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And Philly answers the bell. Every time we get to the third period, you get Carlson going. Carlson's halfway through. Carlson cuts the lead to one, gets a power play goal. Philly sees that fight, they draw a penalty. Two and a half minutes later, they get a power play goal of their own. That is when the game ended.
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Yep.
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The game ended on the Cates goal.
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Yes. Yes.
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Agreed.
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Yep.
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It's just like when you see a team, as I always say, seeing a feral animal in a cage fighting for their lives. And you continue to respond. I agree. It's, you're dead. And when you're pit. Bugsy's right. Game four. Or when you are facing elimination, things do change.
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Yes.
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But Philly has all the juice.
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They get the juice, Dan. Orange juice.
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Their jug is full to the brim. We have surface tension on the lid of their jug.
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Yeah.
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And Pit is out here hiking a hot, sunny trail in desert heat, going like this, dude, is there anything left in here?
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And there's nothing left. It's even better, Dan.
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Someone's gonna clip that.
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I'll paint it for you. Do that again, I'll paint it for you even more clearly, Dan. You look at the Flyers jerseys, they look like a cup of orange juice. And I go, great. You look at the Penguins jerseys, they look like a cup of piss.
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And they've looked like piss.
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All the whole Flyers are drinking orange juice. The Penguins are drinking piss.
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Flyers are drinking OJ Penguin.
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It's hot out there. And the Penguins are going like this. I guess I'll just Drink my own piss.
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They're drinking, they're, they have, they have been forced to drink their own piss.
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The Flyers are drinking OJ and that's all I'm last thought here. I think he should be absolutely in the mixer for coach of the year. But I think Dan Muse is having a hard time adjusting. Like there have been. Not enough is changing when you feel like you are a more talented team.
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I agree. When you get a guy, you get a guy like talk it. Going up against a guy like Dan Muse, there's obviously an advantage and we are seeing the advantage on full display here. And that's not a knock on Dan Hughes. You need. You got to get your reps in sometimes. You got to get swept and you got to get pee pee whacked in the playoffs, then come back years later stronger.
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Correct.
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That's what I think can happen here. But absolutely, Philly has the edge in a huge way. Let's move on to Stars Wild.
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What a fucking series. What a fucking game. Now, I want to say at the top, I really wish everyone was healthy in this series. I just hate that it's like you get this matchup and we have some major players out, but we have some role players out who matter in a big way every game. I'm like holding my breath, checking the lineups to see who's going to even be in. Yeah. So right away I'm like, whatever. But here we go, dude. Witt had said this. I put this note later, but I just wanted to bring it up right now. I heard Wit say the Wild haven't been up, haven't had a 20 series lead like ever or something or in a really long time. It's like some crazy stat.
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Yeah.
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And I'm pretty sure they won game one against Vegas last year, I think. Doesn't that sound right where I was like, oh, and I remember that stat coming up again.
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Chat, tell us, did they win game one last year?
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Did the Wild go up one nothing against Vegas last year? So either way, they have this Dallas game. Game two, where they have a chance to do it. Dallas. Dallas gets them and then Dallas gets them in Minnesota. And it's just like, God, the Wild, they always feel like they are. They are this close. You know, what's the Heath Ledgers thing? You know, where he's like, here we. It just needs a little push. I feel like the Wild are always the tiniest push away from a juggernaut. And it's like someone grabs their back of their shirt and saves them and like Pulls them back into losing in the first round. And they're like, just let me fall, dude. I was fine. I wanted to, like, no, no, no. You will come back and you lose in the first round. It's like, fuck me. So right away, dude, bang. Moose goal. And great play. Robo, pass that over. I think he did. I'll check the box score. Yeah, Robo, pass it over. And that's one where I was like, okay, we get a power play goal. We get Moose on the score sheet. We get an immediate deficit. And I was like, fuck, yeah. Minnesota is in that moment. I was like, minnesota's dead. We have. We're watching them die.
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Vegas did not win game one, but they did go up to one after game three. David, thank you.
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Thank you.
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Also, David, in the chat let us know that potato salad is common on Greek salads in Tampa, but I think it's just outside of Tampa.
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Dude. A lot of comments on that video were like, what the fuck? I've never heard, like, on the actual YouTube. So that. Thank you.
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Listen, all I know is we ate at two places while in Tampa, and both places have potato salad on the Greek.
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Also, someone find us the Sid fan interaction, please. I really want to see.
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Yeah, send that.
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So bang Moose on the board and then bang. Robo goal. I want to say talk about that Robo goal real quick. What a. That's such a nice. You're coming down your off wing. You got the puck in a position to pass or shoot right off your hip. You're looking at your winger the whole time, which, as a goalie, I know that's a thing that they're going to shoot. No look. Or look at the last second, but you just have to respect that. You have to be ready to push off because he's staring down the pass. And then Robo goes. Fucking snipe job. Hank made a really cool comment in the intermission, which I loved. He said, and I never really thought about this. Remember we were talking about that celebrity shootout goal. Cooch did it to, like, under here.
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Yes.
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Everyone's so used to the low, the block now that shooters are changing.
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Yeah.
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Hank was like, everyone has always been trying to score high glove since hockey was invented.
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Yeah.
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And he was like, we as goalies get trained to lock the elbow. The elbow. So we're here and you're playing the statistics. Kind of like, okay, I'm here or up. So he's actually really hard to get that back down because our arm, it's not out loose. Like, our arm is now Locked. That's the training. So he's like, guys are going like, right under it now.
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Yeah.
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And. And Robo kind of probably just wired that as hard as he could, but. But it was like, boom, right there. And I was like, man, J.D. we got to get J.D. back on. Because remember in our. In our show in. At the golf tournament last summer, he's like just. Robo is not like a. His shot isn't like a goal shot.
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Don't do this to JD he and he and they squashed their beef. They're back.
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Hey, and it's this year. He said that last year. It was true. It was true until this year. And now. And now these shots go.
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I first game in Minnesota. I really thought Minnesota wanted this game, especially after their statement in game one. I thought they wanted to come back here to Minnesota, take the lead on home ice and really stick it to Dallas. Especially with Dallas without hints. And Sagan, you get Rampnan his first goal. That's like a. I know, Dan, you really like to keep team star players off the board as long as possible, but Moose gets on the board with a peeper. But I have a couple of things I want to say about two players. Specifically,
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I get the sid reaction.
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Jason Robertson, three goals. He gets the second goal in the first period for his third goal of the series. He also had an assist on the first goal. If I see a single, one single fucking comment about Jason Robertson not being elite ever again, I'm going to lose my mind.
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It's insane.
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Whatever.
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Whatever.
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Whoever he fucked and pissed off, I don't know what it was, but this guy just does nothing but come out and perform. Last year was hurt and was the best performer on this team in the playoffs, in my opinion. And then Matt fucking Duchenne assist on both goals in that first period. This is a guy who got bought out.
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Yes.
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And then was like, I'll go to Dallas.
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Isn't that insane?
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And he's just been a top performer from this team from the second he showed up in Dallas and continues to do it. It's unbelievable what this fucking guy does
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that actually, in hindsight, because there was a moment where the Predators, you know, went on that run and it was like, oh, wow, they're gonna be fine. And they've really retooled. That looks more and more insane with every passing day. That Dutchy thing, like, he goes 78. He goes 86 points in 78 games for the Preds. Then 56 and 71 and they go, you're fired. It's and then 65 and 80, 82 and 82. And then 45 and 57 this year and already firing in the class. Okay, anyway, I'm so with you. And when that. For me, Dan, you know, I'm a. I'm a quick, quick reaction guy in the class. The second that Robo one went, I was like, this is a statement from Dallas. Like, they are about to pump Minnesota full of lead. And like you said, Robo's already going. I said, last episode. How long did it take Robo to get going? Last playoffs. That might have been the difference in Dallas's run. To have him going already is amazing. And God damn it, did the Minnesota Wild deserve so much credit because there is so much fight in that and as there should be. They are just as good like they are. They are right there. This should be a close series, but they used that home crowd. They did not blink about that early deficit. It was fine. Mojo, bro. What a fucking year. What a career.
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So similar to Matt Duchene. Yes, dude. I mean, Mojo is Minnesota's Matt Duchene. Yes. Great call. A guy who's bounced around. He's always been a solid player, but he's bounced around the league. Had a great little shift in Boston, and then he winds up in Minnesota and has fit like a glove. Yep. And just perform. Unbelievable year.
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So he scores a power play goal after just a dominant shift. Dude, he was wheeling around the zone doing fucking everything. And Otter made some great saves. Sturgeon, it was like that crazy one he lunged across on the blocker. But Mojo scores. It kind of. He hits like it was a deflection off the post, but bang, goal. And then. Dude, I know, I know. Eric Sinek tied it, but Matt Bowlby, on that play, buddy, I wrote down it was shades of the gold medal with the, you know, flipping the puck in the air and kind of just like, knifing through the defenseman. That play and that pass is so fucking disgusting. I don't even know what to do about it. I gasped. I gasped in the living room.
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So there's something I want to say about that. And Matt Boldy, we talk about guys like McDavid and McKinnon all the time with this. There are players, forwards who naturally get hit a point where they naturally put defenders on their heels. And I don't mean that metaphorically. I mean literally, as a defenseman, you see a player coming at you and you were like, I gotta. I gotta gap up.
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I gotta.
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I gotta increase my gap against this guy because they're Quick. They're good with their hands and I can't let them get inside my bubble because they'll turn me inside out. They'll get by me. Matt Boldy has hit that point. You can see when he gets the puck and when he gets ahead of steam. Defenders do kind of quick C cut and get a little bit of a bigger gap because they're like, this guy's dangerous. He showed that on this goal. It was fucking disgusting, dude.
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So actually this is awesome. I wrote. Let me see if I wrote this here. Maybe I wrote it later, but I'll just say it now. Yeah. This is insane. So. Because someone in the comments just said it. Let me find it. Yeah. Dwayne Jet Ski. Dwayne Jet Ski just said, Matt Boldi is filthy. Him and Caprize off should switch contracts now. I don't think they should switch contracts, but I wrote later because you've got
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one of the best contracts in the National.
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This came out later when. Remember that there was the Boldy two on one with Ericsson Ek, I think a shorty that Otter made a great save on. And Boldy couldn't quite get the rebound. I was just sitting there.
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Yeah.
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But I wrote it is actually kind of insane. And keep in mind he signed it a couple years ago. But it's actually kind of insane that Matt boldly signed a 7 by 7 and then they gave Kiprizov 17 million. When Bolby is just as good as. I'm like, dude, you get the same thing from these two guys.
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Listen, man, it's what we talked about. Kril Kaprizov is a Russian assassin.
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Yes.
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Correct. And he had you bent over the barrel looking at the 50 states and he said, make one of these states Russia.
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Yeah.
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And that's exactly what Bill Garon did.
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And we did it.
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Sometimes you gotta play.
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Bill Garrett's a great American.
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Kryl Khabrizov and his camp are top negotiators. There's nothing you can do. He was going to get that 17 million from someone.
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Correct.
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You might as well keep him where he's happy. You might as well keep him where
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the Kremlin is, which is now St. Petersburg. I think it's funny that they went, we need to. We. The reason we need to do this for Caprizov is we need a superstar.
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Yeah.
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We need to say we don't lose superstars. And I'm like this. Look at Matt Boldey. You have one. It's insane.
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I don't think it was so much that as it was like you have to keep him. You can't lose Krill somewhere else.
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Yeah.
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Like, it's not like they went out and signed, you know, found a UFA in Krill. They were like this. We have them.
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Yeah. Right.
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We got to keep it. We did it.
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Okay. So then we get just a dominant run from the Wild. They're all over the place. And I just wrote down, Quinn must be so happy.
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Like, he must be having the time of his life. And it's why I always talk about that. Everyone says, oh, we got to get the reunion of the Hughes boys in New Jersey. I'm looking at Minnesota in playoffs, going toe to toe with Dallas, one of the best teams in the league. Quinn's having the time of his life. The boys are familiar with the area, familiar with Michigan. Maybe you get all the Hughes boys in Minnesota.
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I'm so in. I'm so in. Boldly rips one off the post. He's absolutely man vibing. Then we got a Hartman penalty, which was that hold the blue line thing again.
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Yeah.
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I'm actually interested if there was an emphasis on this refs or something.
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It is weird that we've seen this come up so many times in one week.
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Like, what is going on?
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But this holding the blue line interference. I hate it. That is ice that everyone is entitled to if collisions happen. There I go. It's a collision penalty on no one.
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Right.
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If it's a clear pick and like, you go out of your way, sure. But I'm with you. I didn't love that one.
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It's interesting. And we're getting a couple audio messed up comments. I'm going to ask Sean to listen. Can you check if the audio is lagging? Totally with you, Dan.
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Chat. We're on it. We're on it. We're on it. We're check out. We're going to filibuster for a second while we figure out the audio, but also chat. Keep. Keep being heroes and let us know if the audio comes back and feels good.
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So then Dan and this now we entered like the penalty chaos moment of this game. You know, just all hell's breaking loose.
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Yep. Well, hold on. I think let's filibuster here until we make sure we got the audio back.
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Okay. I'm guessing that's going to be very difficult, but we can not to filibuster. I'll filibuster till the cows come home. Yeah, I'm guessing it's gonna be very difficult to try to fix this. Usually it just comes back.
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It might just Be a lag chat.
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So we'll just see, but I hate that call.
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Okay, it looks like we're good. Looks like we're good.
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Okay, we'll keep powering through. Yeah, the penalties go crazy. Boldy. I said this was gonna come back. We'll come back again, unfortunately. But Boldy takes a delay a game now, which was. Dude, he shot that from his. For the people that don't know that rule, if you clear the puck into the crowd from your D zone, that is not allowed. That is delay a game. But if you. If you clear it in the ozone or I think the neutral zone, even, you can shoot it into the crowd and it's no penalty. It's just if you do it from your D zone. Boldy shot one from his D zone.
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Hold on. Can we. It looks like our. The audio is not synced. Can we, like, reload the live or something?
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Will that help? Sure. Let me get Sean in here and we'll.
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All right. We'll give it a shot.
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Yeah. Okay. It says only once in a while.
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Yeah, it's the sync chat. We're just gonna. It's a. We're having a WI FI issue, so we're gonna see if we can just do a reload. But we'll keep.
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Turn this off.
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No, no, we'll see what can happen. We'll. Don't. Don't worry, folks. We're gonna. We're gonna see if we can just resync, but we're gonna keep going until our technicians come in and get a resync for us.
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Us.
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Keep going, Keep going.
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Okay.
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Keep going.
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So, yeah, Boldy shoots one from his D zone, so it's going to be delay game, but he shot it out the far end of the rink because he's just trying to clear the puck on a PK. Dude, that was 180 foot clear. First of all, the forearm strength to get the puck that high from that far away.
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Tell you he's a superstar.
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And I motion that that rule needs to change. If you clear it from your D zone, but it goes out in their ozone. Yeah. If it is no longer delayed.
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Line.
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Yeah. I'm like, dude, never mind. That was incredible.
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I am. I'm totally.
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Stamp that with me.
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Totally into that.
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That is.
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If it gets beyond the blue line. Fine.
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We're good. Dude, like, that is fucking.
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The strength to get that puck that far out is unbelievable.
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So then here comes a killer five on three for the stars. Yeah. And I just want to shout out Eric Sinek because I think people who are new to hockey don't understand how gargantuan that face off is. If Dallas wins that draw, they have a 42nd five on three ramming it down your throat.
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Yeah.
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If Erickson Ek wins that draw cleanly, bang icing. And basically the five on three never happened. And that's what he did. And oh, dude. Such a massive, massive play. Those are like the little things in playoffs. Yeah. That might have won the game. That was insane. And then wild kill the penalty. And then McCarran. Holy shit. What a pickup. What a pickup. What a snipe. That was an awesome moment.
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Unbelievable moment. Foligno and Brodin, great plays on that to keep the puck going and get that goal. Huge play. But then, yeah, fast forwarding into the third period, the guy we've been talking about, Matt Duchene. Power play goal from Moose. From Wyatt. We got a tie game.
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Holy shit.
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It did it feel like it because it's about halfway through the period. To me, it felt like it was coming.
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I did think they were going to get one.
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There was just a ton of moments where, I mean, this, this. I was waiting for overtime to say this. I was, you know, I was live, storying it live, tweeting it. The way Minnesota controls the puck when Hughes.
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Oh, yeah.
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And Faber are on the ice. When Eric Sinek, Boldy and Caprizov are on the ice, which was a lot of times in that game it looks like they have a power play when they don't. Dallas was collapsing into a box with four, five guys on the ice as those dudes were just whipping it around. But. And we saw it on the power play too. You've got Brink on the power play instead of Faber because Faber runs power play too. I don't think I like that. Yeah, brink's great, don't get me wrong. But part of me is like, just put your dogs out. You got to get fucking power play goals in the playoffs. And your first power play unit is when you're going to get it done. But the way they control the puck and get all these chances but couldn't break through. I mean, what was the power play in this game for? For.
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Yeah, good question.
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I think it was one for. For Minnesota. And it's like, dude, you get that many chances and you go one for seven, you're going to lose this game. But the amount of chances they had was insane. And credit to we had Fox. Fox who was making insane block. Beck was making insane blocks.
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Section
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the Dallas PK was unbelievable. And even their 5v5 unit was unbelievable against them. But that is a huge note for Minnesota. I think they got to shoot more the amount of times those guys were whipping it back and forth, just trying to get it to the Wings, to Caprizov and Boldy, and then they'd reset and pass again. Or maybe they were looking for one too many. Looking for the cheeky pass. Otter's playing great. And in these moments, even when Otter's not making that many saves, when there's block, like, there's so much vibes and momentum for Dallas there and for Minnesota, when you guys are controlling that much, you got to start whipping some pucks on that. I think especially if this power play is getting to a point where it's one for seven on home ice like that, you ain't getting seven power plays every game, guys, ever again. So I, I think they've got, they, they need to see how much they're controlling, but get more chances at the net because you lose this game in heartbreaking fashion. When you were, when you have that many power plays, when it felt like you were controlling the ice as much as they were, it's like, you cannot lose this game.
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Yes, Correct. Quick shout out to Moose on that tying goal that you, that you said because you. We talk about poise a lot. That was fucking money.
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Yeah.
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He came by the pump.
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Yeah. Oh, my God.
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And then hit Dutchy. I was like, jesus, dude.
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Hunter in the chat just said, but zero of the chances were high danger chances. And he's absolutely right. That's what I'm saying. It's like you have all these chances and you're eventually settling for these ones that are like, oh, it's a shot, hopefully through a screen. It's like you got to get it to a point where you're getting that crazy. Like the good shot on. Even when it's like Caprizov or Boldi were like, oh, maybe this isn't perfect. Fucking clap it, dude. Like, we got it. We got to start getting pucks on that.
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Yes, correct. So now let's just jump to overtime, because I have a few things to say here. Awesome. Overtime. I love overtime hockey so much. I, I want to talk about the penalties because there were a lot of power plays awarded across one and a half overtime.
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You know my stance on this, dude. I won't do it. I, I will talk about the penalties all day, but I, I, I have declared. I, I refuse to complain about penalties. I refuse. It happens every year. I'm so sick of it. There's always going to be Bad calls and. And it is loser mentality to bitch about the refs. If you go, we lost that game because of the refs. I won't hear it.
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I'm okay with that.
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I'm down to talk about them all.
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Yeah, I'm going to talk about them.
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Yeah.
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Because. Because here's my thing. In overtime. And I'm with you largely, it's playoff hockey. The refs are doing the best they can. And by the way, they're doing a great job. Like they're. Or put it this way, they are doing the best job that anyone could possibly do.
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Yeah, they're.
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Anyone other than them would do worse. So just appreciate what we have and shut the fuck up. That being said, I think in playoff overtime, it needs to be fucking egregious. That's my stance. It needs to be a delay game or a high stick that the dude you know gets clear. Stick to the face or a clear trip. Those are pretty much the only ones. The first one that is called on Sam Steele, which is the trip on Quinn Hughes. I cannot believe that is called. In my opinion, Quinn Hughes literally topics as Sam Steele's stick grazes his quad. Which has nothing to do with it, in my opinion.
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I am here to say that anyone who live didn't think that was an obvious trip is a fucking fraud.
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Fair.
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Once you see the replay, it was soft. But then at the same time, there's a part of me that's like when you move as fast as Quinn Hughes does and as Connor McDavid does and some of these guys, I do think that slight contact to your legs like does. Does trap you up. So I don't know.
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And good point about the live. Because it's Quinn Hughes as a ref, you go. I assume Quinn got tripped there.
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Yes.
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In real time.
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No doubt it was soft. But there's. I don't know, like truly when you were moving that much, like any contact to your and like that, it's a trip. I don't care if it's a poke check. You could get hit anywhere like it's a trip. So I'm with you. But it is what it is.
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Good people. That's the one that Krill hit the post.
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Yes.
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But it was. If that had been a better pass, he would have hammered it in it just like it couldn't get to his wheelhouse. He had to collect off the backhand. Great job, everybody. Great job.
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Looks like we're back. Synced. Well done. Hey, everyone in the chat. Way to stick. Stick with us and help Us let us know.
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And then Dan. And this one I do. I don't even put on the refs for a bad call. I just. Sometimes you have to read the fucking moment. In my opinion, in playoff overtime to call Jamie Ben for holding on Foligno. Right after that, which in I thought was another softball. Right after you gave them a call that everyone's going, that was a toe pick. Just felt so inappropriate to me. Like, let them fucking decide the game in overtime, in the playoffs. Just let them play. Holy shit. So that. That one rattled me. And Jamie Ben was obviously. Maybe that's one. It was actually Dan. A double reputation. You see Quinn Hughes fall and you just call it because you go, I assume he got. Yeah, reputation. Jamie bent wraps. Kind of wraps someone up and they just go, reputation hold. But I'm like, bro, back to back power plays on questionable calls. I'm like, holy shit, dude. So it almost made me happy that Dallas killed those because I just didn't want it to fucking end like that.
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I completely agree with you.
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So then Quinn. I just wrote, Quinn is so nasty on the blue line. It's fucking crazy. Miro got a shot block. That was insane.
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He's so. Quinn is so in his bag. Yeah. Just that he does whatever he wants, tries whatever he wants. It's fucking beautiful.
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So speaking of Quinn, then they call him for that hit on. On Moose. Yeah. And again, I didn't think that was interference. Like, he just flicked it by him.
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I completely agree.
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If they wanted to call high stick, maybe because I guess he kind of got him in the face. But I was like, that wasn't interference at all.
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Tough height difference.
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One crossover. Yeah. However, I actually loved the schquin shove after.
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Yeah.
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That was sick. I was like, they did a zoom in. I wrote it down. I think he called him a bitch if you. If you watch the zoom in. But yeah, I was like, whoa, dude, that was awesome.
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I. It does. Like, I, I, you know, I know people don't like this, but that felt to me like one that was like Dallas was owed some calls.
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Yeah.
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I mean, so I'm not. Not. And I'm not entirely mad at that one. Yep.
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Point of content, point of concern here. This is the kill where Eric Sinek got tangled and then was kind of grabbing his hammy and then he went right to the locker room. He came back, but I was like, oh, God.
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Yeah.
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Because that would be a fucking disaster. I hope nothing happened there. And then, dude, this one. And I know no one is more upset than himself, but you're off's delay of game was one of the funniest things I've ever seen, was this third
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delay of game of this game.
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I can't remember how many delays there were, but, dude, he literally had such incredible poise because that was kind of a scramble shift. Oh, yeah. He gets behind the net and I'm like, here comes the rim. And he goes, nope, I'm an NHL player. I don't care. I'm going to dust this thing off. Take a look around outlets. And then he goes like this. Bang. 10th row. I was like, dude, you got to be fucking kidding me that you put that puck in the stratosphere after waiting?
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It's remarkable, dude.
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It was remarkable.
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Couple of things that I want to shout out before we move on in this ot. We'll obviously get to the Wyatt goal and just talk about how insane Wyatt is. Dallas fans in the chat. Let me know on this pronunciation. Rookie. R2 Heary. I think it's here. He's not entirely sure, but this fucking kid. Unbelievable. Was six zero on Face Off. Yeah, this was sick. Six of seven on Face offs in OT were all from him. And that dude. People need to understand how important that is. And this is a rookie injected into the lineup late here. He only played 20 games this year, and just a monster at the dot. But then, you know, that's an. That's an emphasis of how crazy and important these games are. But then also, we've been talking about quinn a lot. 43 minutes, 47 seconds of ice time by Quinn Hughes in this game. OT is insane.
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Oh, that's nuts, dude. And yeah, to your point, not to brush over, because it was amazing play, but Wyatt Johnson tips one in, and you know, he went to the Pavelski school of tipping and now he knows how to get. And that's a reach, buddy. That was far away. Like, he just bang, gets his stick on it. It was incredible. You're off. Devastated. Leaving the box. I actually really feel for him because that sucks so much. Which, when you come in the locker, I'm like, sorry, boys, but at the end of the day, I think your larger point is right. Minnesota had seven power plays, including two in overtime.
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Dallas had eight. But, you know, like, they go 3 for 8, Minnesota goes 1 for 7. It's like you're dead.
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And I really want to say this, too. When it went three two, Minnesota.
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Yeah.
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What a comeback, by the way. And the building was going insane. But when it went 3:2, I wrote in my notes, eventually, you just need an Otter game. If you're Dallas, like, how are you?
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Did you feel like this was an Otter game?
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No, but I take back that chirp when I went, oh, okay. Because I was like, buddy, I thought he was phenomenal after that. He really was. He had some amazing saves in overtime. So that was awesome. What a series.
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Yeah. The Wyatt goal. Just the one thing about the Wyatt Goal. Tell me how old Wyatt Johnson is.
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23. 2.
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2. Wyatt Johnston is 22 years old. Guess how many game winning Stanley cup playoff go.
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6. That's crazy.
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6th game winning Stanley cup playoff goal. Wyatt Johnston is fucking captain clutch on this team. And, yeah, listen, it's two one. You've got game four in Minnesota. Minnesota's not sweating. They're not freaking out. Especially when you go one for seven. And when you have that much control, you know that you can get some answers here. You got to take advantage of the injuries Dallas has. You're not freaking out. But if you are, Dallas, I think you feel phenomenal about getting that game.
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Absolutely.
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All right, let's move on to the last game of yesterday. Ducks Oilers. We knew this series was going to be a shootout, and boy, is it a shootout.
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But what a. What a surprise.
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Jesus Christ.
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What a surprise. What a surprise. So far, though, which we'll get to. I do want to say this. I had. Just for a fun sprinkle, I had Kreider first goal scorer.
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Did you?
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And I thought to myself, God, if the Ducks just get a power play when it's 00, I'll literally hit this. Because the odds were incredible. And the Ducks did get a power play when it was 00. He did not score. But, boy, was that the best two minutes of my life. The potential there. Dan was just through the roof.
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That must have felt great.
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It was losing my mind.
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That must have felt great.
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Holy shit. Okay, so we.
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This was a game of special teams, eh?
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Yes, it sure was. Which we said was going to be a nightmare in the other direction.
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Yes. And you know what's interesting is you. You have. Leon starts the scoring. I thought the Oilers came out hot. I thought they did.
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They did.
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They always do.
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Minus that power play surge. Yep. For the Ducks. Pod, dude. It's always pod.
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Yeah. Leon gets on the board. His first of the series. It's only game two, but his first of the series. And Pud.
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Colson.
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Dude. And Walman.
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Yeah.
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Three assists.
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The first one was. It was pod, right? Or did they. Did it ricochet and they gave it to Leon?
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Oh, they did. Leon's.
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Yeah. Okay. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah.
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But, but to your point, three assists already for Pod Golson. Like, he is such a good and valuable player. And Wallman proving to be a great pickup and a great.
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Absolutely, Absolutely.
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So then I said, what the Ducks can't do in this series is be chasing. And you can't be taking dumb penalties because the Oilers power play will kill you. It didn't kill them tonight. And the Duckies get a power play and fucking Cutter Gaultier, he gets on the board. Boom. Tie game. So immediately in the first period, it's 1:1. And I'm like, we're gonna fucking do this all series, aren't we? It's gonna. It's literally gonna be like this. Oh, it looks like so. Oh, look at that. Goal, goal, goal, goal, goal. And it was just like, this was such a rope. A dope back and forth fucking game. And I. I came into these playoffs being like, dallas Minnesota is going to be my favorite series to watch. I think it still is because I can't believe how good both of those teams are. Watching Dallas Minnesota going toe to toe is crazy. But this series is a fucking circus in the best way because you have so much talent on the ice and anything can truly happen in this series. Someone will have full possession and be completely controlling the game. And then there's a quick turnover the other way and there's a goal. And you're like, how. I don't know how anyone in either of these fan bases could ever feel comfortable for more than 10 seconds.
B
You cannot.
A
It's insane.
B
Absolutely correct. Shout out. Cutter. I. There was a stat that came up last night. He's the first duck to score 40 in the regular season since Corey Perry in like 2014. I thought that was amazing. He gets that seeing eye one. And then the Oilers got a power play. And like you said, the Ducks were making plays without a stick. Like guys will lose sticks. It's like a five on three. They're getting out on the ice blocking shots. And we saw Leon miss a couple one tees last game in this game with like 20 seconds left in the first. Connor does vintage. Connor wheels around, hits Leon with that backdoor one. T. Doso makes an insane save. I actually thought he made some incredible saves and let in some he'd want back. So it's kind of a funny night for him. But those are the moments, if you can survive those power plays. It legitimately almost feels like a two goal swing. And then you start the second. Truba fires went on net from the parking lot.
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Yeah.
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And it just goes in. It goes in. And this is kind of a. It was just another one that Ingram didn't see. Cutters was a better shot, but Ingram just didn't see that one either.
A
Yeah.
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And it's almost like he's looking the wrong side of screens. The announcer was said that cutter shot it. That's not on purpose, but I think these guys are just trying to get it on. On frame. Ingram's, like, looking the wrong side. He jumps this way. It goes past him. As much as I stroked him last game, there was a few in this one where I was like, oh, dude. Yeah. The boys just stand in the way. You need that one. And then obviously, the big moment here, right in the middle of this frame, is Connor McDavid is jumping up and down, hobbling, and then runs to the locker room. Yeah, I. That was a weird, emotional moment for me.
A
Oh, dude.
B
I was like, oh, no.
A
It's. You never, ever, ever root for injuries. And that's a message to all the fans. It's like, I know how. I know how much the hate. When you're a real fan. Like, if Ducks fans, Oilers fans. When you're a real fucking fan and you're in a battle, you want. You wish death. Yes, you want. On every player on the other team, but then when you see an injury happen, you're immediately like, fuck. Like, that sucks.
B
Yep.
A
And seeing the best player in the world get injured in the playoffs, it's just. It sucks the life out of you. And that was a. I mean, you feel for an entire city.
B
Oh, dude.
A
It's awful.
B
It just can't happen. Because it's not. It's a sport where the guys are banged up. I don't mean to say this doesn't happen. Right. Like, it actually does happen. But football, I swear, your mentality when you're watching the NFL is you're like, well, someone's gonna tear their ACL this year. Like, I wonder who we go to the playoffs with. In hockey, you just. It's such a grind. It's like a whole second season. You just want to go to battle with your guys and to lose Connor McDavid from the playoffs, unless. And frankly, I will cut Ducks fans some slack, that if any Ducks fan went like this, I'm not mad at
A
you, everyone else on earth, as long as you do not ever in the privacy of your own home, you can go, that'd be great if Conor was hurt. But if you put that shit on X, if you put that shit out
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in the universe, if you say, quiet
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You've got bad stuff coming. Listen, what you put out into the universe, you get back. When you do douchey cunty things, it's going to come back at you. You better believe that. So don't put that stuff out there in the universe.
B
So live or. Actually I kind of only saw the replay because by the time they cut to it. But on the first replay I went like this.
A
Oh.
B
Because it looked so non contact. Yeah, they were tangled. But I was like nothing bad happened. Then I watched the replay a trillion times on zoom in slow mo. At first I thought maybe he got cut. Like literally stepped on him, which I still think is in play. But you. The tongue is thick. Like it's hard.
A
I don't even know. I mean it would have to be in insane things happening.
B
But don't forget Connor doesn't even lace the top two.
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Yeah.
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You know, and it's like loose as. So maybe the skate just got down there. Which would kind of buy what he was like. Oh, like he's like hopping like, oh, I just sliced my leg quick locker him quick back. So I would buy cut. I would also maybe buy his ankle got twisted. I couldn't quite see. I don't know anything. But I'm going sprained ankle or cut. Frankly, if he's cut, unless it's horrific, he's fine.
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Yeah.
B
And if he's sprained ankle, he's fine because of the boot. Unless it's a really bad high ankle sprain, which it didn't look like considering he was flying around in the third period.
A
Yeah.
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But keep an eye on it though because that would be a nightmare.
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Wit said this and I agree it's. I think Conor was kind of battling something the whole time anyway the last quarter of this season.
B
Yep.
A
And for this to happen is. Is obviously a huge bummer.
B
Yes.
A
But you know, fuck me. Connor Murphy.
B
Yep.
A
Scores.
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Well, it goes 31 first, right.
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Oh, sorry. Oh, yeah. We didn't even talk about the killer power play goal.
B
Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.
A
And I'm glad because I. I wanted to bring that up. Monster game from Killorn.
B
Yes.
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And this is, you know, you love. I promise you this. We're gonna get a Kreider game here.
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah. And guys like Killorn and Kreider and Truba. Truba obviously on the score sheet in this game as well. When you have such a young group, this is the reason that you have guys like this. You have Calorn who's involved in the first goal and then he gets the power play goal. Like Calorn out there on the power play being a big Bobby after ridiculous
B
play by Cutter on the half ball. Ridiculous play by Cutter.
A
He bangs in a goal here. He gets the assist on a shorty for Paling's goal. We'll get to later, but it's like this was a monster Calorne game. And it's for like some of the people who look at the roster construction, they're like, does he fit in this team? I'm like, you bet your ass he does. And it's like, this is a guy with Stanley, you know, Stanley cup playoff pedigree. You want him on this team. Perfect example, but yes. Unbelievable play by Cutter. Great goal to make the lead 3 1. Rod is getting quiet and again Roger's getting quiet. But a two goal lead in this series, which we've seen disappear already is. Is. And we saw it happen again is like, it does feel a little bit better of like, okay, we can rebound even if they do tie it and eventually we get in the same period. Connor Murphy gets on the board. His first. Leon's third assist.
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And then KK keeps it at the blue line. You know, it's just like these guys. Teams think depth scoring means having great depth in the regular season. Incorrect. Depth scoring means having dudes who literally never score just in the playoffs go, all we do is score now. And the Oils have done this for three years in a row.
A
And when I talked about the circus of this series, Edmonton gets a power play and you're like, and bye bye lead for the Ducks and then they score.
B
Fucking shorty, dude. So what is your read on that McDavid play? Obviously it's all over the Internet, but what did you think about that?
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I have absolutely zero issue with that play because it's one of those things where the Lord giveth and the Lord taketh. If you are going to enjoy Connor McDavid putting his team on his back night in and night out, you have to live with occasional mistakes. It was an occasional mistake. I'm not mad at it in the slightest.
B
Especially because same thing with Quinn.
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Yes. When Quinn tries stuff on the blue line and turns it over, I'm like, turn it over all day. Because the second you start telling a player like Connor McDavid, hey man, maybe don't take those risks or those chances. How many goals do you lose? A lot.
B
Infinity.
A
Yeah. So yeah.
B
No. And he is going to see things at a periphery and spin around and pass without double checking because that is his gift. So I'm with you largely, I will say and by the way, the fucking guy is entitled to make mistakes. He's a human being. Of course I will say, I. I don't know what he really saw there. Like, usually when you kind of see a pass, I'm like, oh, he tried to do that, but it got picked up. I was like, who was that too? Like, that was kind of like the
A
softest dude, I'll tell you.
B
He sees.
A
He sees the matrix, he's seeing numbers. And there was a coding error. Yeah. And that's all it was.
B
Only thing I didn't like. And again, he might be bleeding down his shin at this point, like from an open wound, who knows? But the only thing I didn't like was he kind of passed it. And then he did that thing where he goes like. Like in public, you know, he like throws his head back like, you guys are idiots. And I'm like, well, that was a terrible pass, so go get it.
A
Well, I'm not sure that was his. I think that.
B
I think that maybe he was like, I'm an idiot. Yes.
A
Yeah. I think that was directed towards himself.
B
But then he kind of just like glides over and I was like, you know, go get.
A
Yeah. You know what that was? To me, that was. Nothing's working. Yeah, that was a. Whether. Whether he thought his teammate was going to cut one way or maybe they cut the wrong way or it was his mistake or their mistake, whatever. I think that was a universal. Him being like me. Nothing's going right now.
B
Yeah.
A
And you know, it's like if you're Connor McDavid playing the Ducks, you don't expect to be two games through the series without a goal.
B
So.
A
Correct.
B
You're like a point, I think, without a point.
A
Yeah.
B
So anyway, the Ducks, they. So they go up for. To another two goal lead and then bang. Oilers again off a Ducks turn over in the neutral zone. They go low to high. Echo shot, Hyman Tip. Great tip. Fight from Hymen Diamond. Great tip. God, he makes a living in there. And at this point, you're right, Dan. This feels like the Ducks are too leaky to win a game in this series unless they're gonna win 7 6.
A
Yeah. Like, to me it was like, they're gonna have to win an OT and
B
you know, like, which is not happening.
A
Yeah, but we. We get more than halfway through the third period and I'm watching this game. I got the fucking multicast. There's nothing hornier than the multicast.
B
I know, it's awesome.
A
Like, getting both games on the TV is Like, I am absolutely juiced through my pants. It's unbelievable. And I'm watching this game and I posted a story, and I go. I go for people in the chat who are on the Instagram, let me know if you saw this and laughed at it. I posted a story, Chris. And I was like, this game is drunk as shit, and you're high if you don't think it's getting tied up.
B
Yep.
A
It didn't even load before Symansky scored. It literally didn't even load like I was looking at it. Loading. And the story posted after Symansky scored and tied the game. Four. Four. And I immediately, I was like, I. I didn't even get that story up. That's how quickly it was tied.
B
So I gotta say, the two notes. Here we stand. We changed the delay of game rule. Officially, if you shoot it past the other team's blue line, it's no longer.
A
No longer. Yep.
B
Here's another one. Minchikov took a. I think it was called unsportsmanlike penalty because he pulled KK's helmet off. Yes. And I go, oh, okay. Well, if that's the rule, if you pull someone's helmet off, then you can't be doing that.
A
Yeah.
B
Then they show the replay, and he puts. There's a scrum after the whistle, and he just puts KK in a headlock. And KK goes like this. Yeah. And just squirms out of it.
A
I really like that you took the hat off there just for the visual.
B
And his helmet comes off, and I go, that is not a penalty. I'm just standing here like this. I did not take his helmet off. He wriggled out and peeled his helmet.
A
Yeah.
B
So we need to stamp that rule change, too. That was crazy. And then on the tying goal. Dude, I said I'd come back to this. Killer. The Oilers have some pressure. There's a high rebound kicked out, and Beckett Seneca, who I fucking love, collects the puck in the high slot, headed towards his own goal. And he could use his momentum and wheel all the way around and try to get out of danger. But he, like a fucking seasoned vet, goes like this cheekiest little backhand kick to Killer, who is nude.
A
Yeah.
B
In the zone. Beckett, wheels, presents, options, whatever. And then Killer just starts carrying the fuck out of the zone, looking around, chilling. And then Maddie's void picks his pocket stick left, right. And I'm like that. You would be better off icing it. And to your point, you might even be better off taking a fucking delay of game shooting it into the crowd than getting stripped in the zone with time. It's obviously. The game is moving so fast. These guys are a thousand times better than me. I'm not chirping anybody, but holy fuck. Get the fuck out. Yeah. It's insane.
A
Okay, so the go ahead goal by cutter.
B
Yep.
A
I've, I, I have a lot that I loved about this. Less than 5 minutes left in the game. It's tied up. And you're nervous, right? You're like, Jesus Christ, don't let Edmonton score again. If you're the Ducks, then we get a offensive zone draw. Leon Draisaitl versus Leo Carlson.
B
Yep.
A
Leo Carlson is such a player, dude, he. Someone posted a stat.
B
Actually scary thought. I'm not even gonna say it. Alive. How about that? It's actually so scary. I'll tell you later.
A
Let me get this. I want to do everyone a favor and get this exactly right. But Leo Carlson through. In his career, through 200 games, they put this stat up against Leon.
B
Yep. Is better.
A
He has better numbers than. Than Leon Draisaitl. And we know Leo Carlson is a phenomenal player. But I don't think some people know other than Ducks fans know just how good he is. And it's crazy, man. And I always love, I think people, people look at things like plus minus. They look at things like face offs. And if you're a new hockey fan or a casual hockey fan, and that's not an insult, you can be a casual fan of tons of things. I'm a casual fan of lots of.
B
Yeah.
A
In the playoffs especially, face offs are so important. And you put guys out. When you have that home ice last shift, you put guys out specifically for D zone draws. We saw Team USA win an Olympic gold medal because of the roster they put out emphasizing D zone draws. It's important. And with less than five minutes left in a tie game, when you're down 10 in a series, you're trying to steal a game in Edmonton, which is huge. You get a draw. Leo Carlson against Leon draisaitl. One of the best players on planet Earth.
B
Yep.
A
And the way Leo snaps that fucking puck back to Lacombe is just such a fucking big dick draw.
B
It's amazing.
A
And I know people go, oh, it doesn't mean anything. But then lacombe fires that puck into traffic. It squirts out to cutter. Goal. Go ahead. Goal. You then fight, scratch and survive. And you get an empty netter.
B
Thank you.
A
Cash the bet and you win a game in Rogers.
B
Like those fans beating the shit out of each other.
A
Those are moments where you're like, what a fucking big draw that was. And, like, when you're celebrating that goal and you're Leo Carlson, you're like, fucking rights.
B
I'm the man.
A
Had my guy.
B
Yeah. Yes, exactly.
A
That is huge.
B
Holy fuck.
A
Yeah.
B
Well, it's. That's an incredible one, because like I said two days ago, I thought the Oilers were going to win in four or five and blow them out. Five still in play. Obviously, I'm a math guy. I can do those numbers. But the Ducks, I give a ton of credit for, because now, dude, they get to bring playoff hockey back to the OC Bitch, buy a shirt. And then, dude, they were better than the Oilers for a ton of this season. Regular season is different.
A
Yeah, I would say a ton of this game. I mean, the Oilers still have the shot. They're going to have. I feel like they're going to have the shot advantage almost every game. But I thought in this game that the Duckies weren't running around like chickens with their head cuts off. They were flying around like ducks. Yeah. And I thought they were the better team at a lot of moments in this game. So when you go down two to nothing in game one and everyone was like, this bloodbath, it's over, sweep. And then you tie it, and then you get the lead, and now you have this game, I think you're like, we can fucking play.
B
That's kind of what I meant. I went in going, well, the Oilers in the playoffs are a different beast. This is a given. And the Ducks are going, dude, we finished behind them in the standings, obviously, but we were ahead of them in the standings for 90% of the season.
A
Correct.
B
Don't be a fucking scared of this team. Maybe McDavid's got a knock. Maybe Leon's got a knock. We can win this series. I'm not saying they're going to, but I'm telling you right now, the Ducks currently go like this. What? Dude? Yeah. We can win this series.
A
I 100 agree. And closing thoughts. In this series, you cannot expect this Oilers power play to go all for four ever again.
B
Yes.
A
So stay out of the box.
B
Clean that up.
A
But know that you can play. And come to Honda, dude. Bring them down to the fucking OC and introduce this Edmonton team to Southern California in a big way. Make sure you get a win on home ice, and we have a fucking series.
B
Unreal, bro.
A
Fantastic stuff. All right, folks, that's gonna do it for this live episode. Huge shout out to the chat. We Love you guys. Always getting in there, getting in the mix. And apologies for the lags. We're having some WI fi issues. It's not gonna happen again. Or. We'll do our best to make sure it doesn't happen again, but we love you for sticking through it. We will be live again tomorrow at 9:00am Pacific Time. So noon east coasters and mountain time Central time. You do the fucking math. 9:00am Pacific Time will be live again. It's going to be a fucking blast. We're going to be watching all the games tonight. Stay dialed in with us. Let's enjoy these games. We'll see you tomorrow.
B
Skate hard.
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Empty Netters Podcast – Episode Summary
Episode: The Stars Rip Out Minnesota Hearts In Double OT
Date: April 28, 2026
Host: Almost Friday Media
Main Hosts: Dan Powers & Chris Powers
Overview This high-energy episode captures Dan and Chris Powers live for a special NHL Playoffs edition, focusing on the drama unfolding in the first round, most notably the Dallas Stars’ double-OT thriller over the Minnesota Wild. The episode encapsulates unfiltered takes, passionate (often biased) brotherly debate, and deep hockey analysis, all in the brand’s classic mix of insight and irreverence. Alongside in-depth reactions to major playoff games, the hosts spotlight the tension, turning points, and “hero/villain” storylines only the Stanley Cup Playoffs can deliver.
Opening Notes & Intensity
Early Penguins Surge & Letdown (00:30–04:10)
Flyers Stabilize, Take Over (04:10–07:00)
Sidney Crosby High-Stick/Embellishment Incident (07:01–12:45)
Flyers’ Goals & Crowd Energy (13:07–18:43)
Game Narrative & Coaching Edge (20:45–23:19)
Injury Woes and Series Tension (23:29–24:29)
Stars’ Statement, Wild’s Grit (25:24–30:27)
Special Teams Chaos & Game Flow (35:45–39:29)
Third Period & Missed Chances (40:48–41:37)
Overtime Drama & Penalty Dispute (41:55–45:37)
Notable Performers & Clutch Finish (47:09–48:47)
High-Powered, Wild Back-and-Forth (48:57–66:41)
Goaltending & McDavid Injury Scare (52:47–55:19)
Veteran Impact & Key Mistakes (55:41–57:04)
Critical Turning Points & Draws (61:17–64:52)
Anaheim Steals a Game, Series is On (64:52–66:41)
The Empty Netters bring a boisterous sibling rivalry and unfiltered hockey expertise, applying first-hand experience as former elite players. The tone is raucous, loyal to their favorite teams but willing to criticize, loaded with inside jokes, irreverence (“drinking piss!”), honesty, and a love for hockey and its culture both traditional and evolving.
This summary covers the full scope of playoff analysis, memorable moments, controversies, and classic hockey “guy” banter that defines this Empty Netters playoff episode. If you missed it, you missed a wild ride, but now you’ve got the key beats, drama, and the best one-liners straight from the source.