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Endgame with Gita Wirjawan
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Join entrepreneur, educator, and proud Indonesian, Gita Wirjawan in exploring the ways forward for our society through stories and experiences by thought leaders, trailblazers, and opinion-makers from Indonesia and the region.
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Alex Krainer: When “the Few” Run the World, “the Many” Should Rise
Yesterday01:18:19Tap to summarizeThe world order is changing. The West is no longer the undisputed center of global power. Europe is gradually experiencing a decline in influence. Developing nations are emerging as formidable competitors. Economic elites are increasingly locked in battles with one another. Meanwhile, public awareness is rising in a wave unlike anything seen before.These are the arguments put forward by Alex Krainer, market analyst and founder of Krainer Analytics, in his conversation with Gita Wirjawan. In this episode, Krainer invites us to rethink the long-term trajectory of our world and reflect on what truly matters about our shared humanity in an era of war: preserving our freedom, or becoming servants of the system.Full topics:0:00:00 - Intro0:01:30 - Grew up with history, power, and politics0:05:50- How war intellectually shaped Alex Krainer0:11:40 - "The European Union is going to disintegrate"0:20:26 - Civil war: "The clash is inevitable"0:28:30 - Ukraine-Russia hostility “will never end”?0:34:45 - Neocolonialism: “You’re conquering a country through debt."0:39:35 - Oil price could worsen0:43:55 - Eschatological look of the Middle East conflict0:50:53 - Iran: “This isn’t Trump’s war”0:53:45 - We can’t avoid Thucydides Trap1:00:40 - Oligarchy, “this is by design”1:08:30 - Why we can beat plutocracy#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #AlexKrainer------------------You may also like these episodes: • We’re Not in World War III Yet, Realist Jo... • Francis Fukuyama: Is Western Civilization ... • Myth on Capitalism and Sex Industry - Kimb... ------------------Special thanks to our “future narrators” channel members:Mariko Yoshihara, Yemotto IBRAHIM, hobi kluyuran, Fajar Prasetyo, Dyah Firgiani, Arie Gunardi, Yayi Trisnawati D, Teddy Chow, Wwertyssnb, Widi Aphrian, Faizal …Mariko Yoshihara, Yemotto IBRAHIM, hobi kluyuran, Fajar Prasetyo, Dyah Firgiani, Arie Gunardi, Yayi Trisnawati D, Teddy Chow, Wwertyssnb, Widi Aphrian, Faizal Tajuli, hndraable, hendro trihatmojo, Muhammad Taufik Evendi, Qun＇an Syukrilah, Charles Andrew Tang, Ariyo Arinsa Putra, Reda Bellarbi, Jaz Simbolon, Muhammad Ismail Mubarak, KATE WOLSKA, rrtrent892, Itje Chodidjah, Geralt Fajar Bukan, Jack Duan, Elmi CK Ong, Lucy March, Anggun Noventina, Irawan Purwono, Krishna Putra, Agnes Pranindita, nazaruddin nasir, 747sgw, Patricia S, Gusko Adnyana, Jerry Budiman, Mawan Darmawan, diah anggraini, Adrian Baskoro, Bambang Haryanto, Ezwan Zakaria, Irene Kurniati, Naufal M, Kianti Darusman, Revolution R, liza dewi, Joanna felicia, Susanto Uno, Taswin Munier, M Firaldi Akbar Zulkarnain, Seno wibowo, Hendry Ahen, Ilham R, Ferdy Reza, Ayu Arman, Haju Ara Podcast, Flores Exotic Tours, Niki S, Anita Amalia, Dewi Risnawati, birgietta katherine, Derry Harnanda, Ridwan Sakidja, Rita Sahara
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Kimberly Hoang: Myth on Capitalism and Sex Industry #269
5d ago02:01:10Tap to summarizeThe web of capitalism operates everywhere, in every transaction, every policy, every "done deal" that never sees the light. In the midst of it all, we are slowly losing something far greater: the meaning of being human.Kimberly Kay Hoang, professor of sociology at the University of Chicago, joins Endgame to uncover what has long remained hidden, from spiderweb capitalism to a sex industry far more complex than we assume, and to the question we rarely dare to ask plainly: what have we already sacrificed in the name of progress?#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #KimberlyHoang---------------Get your copy of Gita Wirjawan’s book, “What It Takes: Southeast Asia”, NOW:https://books.endgame.id/Also available on Amazon:https://sgpp.me/amazon/Leave your review here:www.goodreads.com/book/show/241922036-what-it-takes---------------Related Endgame episodes: • How AI-Enabled Organized Crimes & Systemic... • Jiang Xueqin: Our True Wealth Is Our Consc... • Di Mana Titik Tengah Kekuasaan dan Kebebas...
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Zhang Weiwei: “Leaders Must Deliver, Meet Demands of the People”
3w ago01:38:03Tap to summarizeGet your copy of Gita Wirjawan’s book, “What It Takes: Southeast Asia”, NOW:https://books.endgame.id/Also available on Amazon:https://sgpp.me/amazon/Leave your review here:www.goodreads.com/book/show/241922036-what-it-takes------------------------------------------------------------Is democracy the only path, or simply just a method?Many of us believe that democracy is the only path—if not the best path—to nation-building. Yet, drawing on his expertise in international relations and his experience as an English interpreter for senior Chinese leaders (including Deng Xiaoping), Dr. Zhang Weiwei tells a very different story from his homeland, a story that stands in sharp contrast to the historical experience of Western civilization: China.China's historical experience suggests that the large-scale development of a nation can be achieved while remaining deeply rooted in its own cultural spirit. From his account of how Deng Xiaoping set China on a path of transformation through a process of self-correction, to his critique of political paradigms that divide the world into the binary categories of "democracy" and "autocracy," Zhang invites us to consider the successes of alternative models of political and developmental order.There are parts of the world that have progressed, prospered, and come to terms with their own troubled histories without democracy serving as their vessel.Find out more about The China Academy:https://thechinaacademy.org/@thinkersforum4149
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Randy Goebel: Why the Global South Can Still Lead on AI
May 600:49:03Tap to summarizeAI today is powered by massive models, massive energy, and massive capital concentration. But what if this trajectory is essentially unsustainable? And what if the Global South could redefine the future of AI?Randy Goebel, an AI scientist and advocate of open science, explores the sustainability crisis behind large language models and the costly cycles that define AI’s history. He also emphasizes that for Southeast Asia and the Global South, the future of AI depends not on hardware, but on building and sustaining intellectual capital.----------------------About the Guest: Randy Goebel is a computer scientist and professor of computing science in the Department of Computing Science, University of Alberta, Canada. He's known for his work in artificial intelligence (AI), machine learning, logic-based reasoning, and explainable AI (XAI). Goebel also helped found the Alberta Machine Intelligence Institute (AMII) and has been deeply involved in AI research and teaching.#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #RandyGoebel------------------------You might also like:https://youtu.be/xUdCSq4W1Kk?si=mVh92mCGznE4GEmphttps://youtu.be/WNcW2jHGrtk?si=dVprUeByatSeOfFhhttps://youtu.be/m8h7zojuM5Q?si=7qx3ICQ6Z0oYs11Z
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Tom Ginsburg: Why Constitutional Monarchy Might Be the Best Form of Government
May 601:28:14Tap to summarizeGet your copy of Gita Wirjawan’s book, “What It Takes: Southeast Asia”, NOW: https://books.endgame.id/ Also available on Amazon: https://sgpp.me/amazon/ Leave your review here: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/241922036-what-it-takes---------------Democracy holds elections. But what makes them meaningful? In an era of polarization, algorithmic amplification, elite capture, and institutional distrust, Gita Wirjawan conversation with Tom Ginsburg asks a deeper question: what sustains constitutional democracy, and what erodes it from within?From Southeast Asia’s dramatic transformation since the 1980s to the rise of authoritarianism at home, this episode weaves these threads together to examine the institutional architecture that makes freedom possible. It explores not only how democracies erode, but also what the best model of governance truly looks like in practice, and the constitutional framework required to sustain it over time.About the guest:Tom Ginsburg is a prominent American legal scholar specializing in comparative constitutional law and international law. He is a professor at the University of Chicago Law School, where he holds an endowed chair. He is widely known for his work on constitutional design, judicial politics, and the role of law in authoritarian regimes.#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #TomGinsburg---Episode you might like:https://youtu.be/7VAU6ejU3cc?si=sgdCyi4t9mfqOcxyhttps://youtu.be/PCYpeJYu9hY?si=xzB-5zj0P6ryQr0Vhttps://youtu.be/QZ1vMos7fck?si=C-OTKZ2htha_9dfs
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Wesley Clark: Peace as a Paradoxical Ideal
Apr 2801:30:10Tap to summarizeGet your copy of Gita Wirjawan’s book, “What It Takes: Southeast Asia”, NOW:https://books.endgame.id/Also available on Amazon:https://sgpp.me/amazon/Leave your review here:www.goodreads.com/book/show/241922036-what-it-takes---------------Power shapes history, but character shapes the future. Democracies do not collapse in a single dramatic moment; they erode quietly through short-term thinking and the loss of moral clarity.General Wesley Clark, former Supreme Allied Commander of NATO, sat down with Gita Wirjawan to reflect on peace, military involvement in global security, and America’s changing identity in a multipolar world.The discussion spans the Middle East, Russia–Ukraine, nuclear risks, and civilian casualties, highlighting the balance between strength and restraint, realism and hope.Full topics:0:00:00 - Intro0:02:09 - Why joined the military0:16:24 - Spirituality & religiosity0:18:26 - History of the birth of America0:29:07 - What is peace?0:37:55 - The US in a multipolar world0:50:56 - Significance: The quest of the 21st century?0:57:29 - Nuclear proliferation1:08:10 - Middle East1:12:25 - A realist look at Ukraine1:14:40 - NATO1:19:20 - Why invest in Southeast Asia#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #WesleyClark------------------About the guest:Wesley Clark is a four-star U.S. Army general who devoted 34 years of service under eight presidents, spanning from the Cold War to the Balkans. He served as Supreme Allied Commander of NATO, leading NATO forces during a defining post–Cold War period. His career reflects decades of experience at the intersection of military strategy, political leadership, and the shaping of modern American power.About the host:Gita Wirjawan is an Indonesian entrepreneur and educator. He is the founding partner of Ikhlas Capital and the chairman of Ancora Group. Currently, he is teaching at Stanford as a visiting scholar with Stanford's Precourt Institute for Energy.------------------You may also like:https://youtu.be/PCYpeJYu9hY?si=mrMhRwUXgvti4-r7https://youtu.be/oT4OcBYEZac?si=b6YgpSOZwkwewcTjhttps://youtu.be/vZ7ocdh_rsk?si=mJKfaZEmXnVmHuYX------------------
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Bhima Yudhistira: Ekonomi Tumbuh, Belum Tentu Dinikmati Semua
Apr 1501:27:54Tap to summarizeBuku yang saya tulis, ‘What It Takes: Southeast Asia’, sekarang sudah tersedia dalam Bahasa Indonesia dan Inggris. Dapatkan di sini:https://books.endgame.id/Sudah baca? Tinggalkan review-mu di sini: / what-it-takes ------------------Ekonomi Indonesia tumbuh 5%, tapi kelas menengah justru makin terjepit di tengah. Mereka dianggap terlalu kaya untuk dapat subsidi, namun terlalu kecil untuk dianggap sejahtera.Apa sebenarnya prioritas ekonomi kita?Pahami penjelasan Bhima Yudhistira, seorang ekonom dan Direktur Eksekutif CELIOS, dalam pembicaraannya dengan Gita Wirjawan.Tentang Bintang Tamu:Bhima Yudhistira adalah ekonom Indonesia yang menjabat sebagai Direktur Eksekutif Center of Economic and Law Studies (Celios). Ia kerap menjadi narasumber di berbagai media nasional untuk membahas kebijakan fiskal, utang negara, investasi, hilirisasi industri, hingga dampak kebijakan publik terhadap kelas menengah dan UMKM.#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #BhimaYudhistira-----------------
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Francis Fukuyama: Is Western Civilization in Decline?
Apr 1301:00:15Tap to summarizeGet your copy of Gita Wirjawan’s book, “What It Takes: Southeast Asia”, NOW:https://books.endgame.id/Also available on Amazon:https://sgpp.me/amazon/Leave your review here:www.goodreads.com/book/show/241922036-what-it-takes------------------Francis Fukuyama argues that Western civilization is waning, and America can no longer agree on what it's even defending.In this episode, Professor Fukuyama discusses the deepening crisis within the liberal international order, as well as the symptoms and impact of America’s long-term decline.------------------About the Guest:Francis Fukuyama is a senior fellow at Stanford University's Freeman Spogli Institute and one of the most influential political theorists of the past three decades. Best known for “The End of History and the Last Man”, his work spans liberal democracy, political order, and institutional decay.About the host:Gita Wirjawan is an Indonesian entrepreneur and educator. He is the founding partner of Ikhlas Capital and the chairman of Ancora Group. Currently, he is teaching at Stanford as a visiting scholar with Stanford's Precourt Institute for Energy.------------------
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Seyed Mohammad Marandi: How Orientalism Creates Information Asymmetry About Iran -
Apr 701:22:58Tap to summarizeWhat is going to stop this war? What does true peace in the Middle East look like?Endgame sits down with Seyed Mohammad Marandi for answers from an Iranian perspective.#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #SeyedMarandi------------------About the Guest:Seyed Mohammad Marandi is a Professor of English Literature and Orientalism at the University of Tehran. His work spans literature, postcolonial studies, and political analysis.About the host:Gita Wirjawan is an Indonesian entrepreneur and educator. He is the founding partner of Ikhlas Capital and the chairman of Ancora Group. Currently, he is teaching at Stanford as a visiting scholar with Stanford's Precourt Institute for Energy.------------------Get your copy of Gita Wirjawan’s book, “What It Takes: Southeast Asia”, NOW:https://books.endgame.id/Also available on Amazon:https://sgpp.me/amazon/Leave your review here: www.goodreads.com/book/show/241922036-what-it-takes
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Vali Nasr: Why This War Could Be a “Turning Point” for the Global Order
Apr 701:29:22Tap to summarizeWhy has Iran refused to break under decades of American and Israeli pressure? What really sustains the Islamic Republic? And what does this war reveal about the fractures in the global order?Nasr argues that reducing Iran to a theocracy misses the point entirely.------------------About the Guest:Vali Nasr served as Dean of the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS) and as Senior Advisor to the U.S. Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan. He is the author of several landmark books, including The Dispensable Nation, The Shia Revival, and his most recent, Iran’s Grand Strategy — which frames much of the conversation in this episode.About the host:Gita Wirjawan is an Indonesian entrepreneur and educator. He is the founding partner of Ikhlas Capital and the chairman of Ancora Group. Currently, he is teaching at Stanford as a visiting scholar with Stanford's Precourt Institute for Energy.------------------Get your copy of Gita Wirjawan’s book, “What It Takes: Southeast Asia”, NOW:https://books.endgame.id/Also available on Amazon: https://sgpp.me/amazon/Leave your review here: www.goodreads.com/book/show/241922036-what-it-takes------------------
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