
Hosted by Christa Hardin, MA · EN

After a car accident sent her on a deeply personal journey into bodywork and healing, Dr. Cathleen Gerenge, Type 7, discovered that the path to thriving was not just clinical but deeply embodied, and that lesson changed the way she practices and the way she lives, and she brings her brilliance to us about thyroid, specific hormones, and taking care of us, just as she too found results and also the energy back for community in the Vietnamese beauty and wellness industry, winning Ms. Vietnamese Florida after age fifty! In this conversation we talk about every decade of a man and woman's life across hormones, what's happening with thyroid, progesterone, testosterone, and more, the hormonal connection to irritability and disconnection and lost desire in marriage, and what it actually looks like to take your health and your marriage back at any stage. This is a holiday weekend, which means food and gatherings and all the joy of being together, and it also means a beautiful moment to pause and ask: am I taking care of the body my marriage lives inside? Dr. Gerenger is warm, brilliant, and refreshingly honest about her own journey. This one is going to stay with you. Watch on YouTube! Follow her wildly helpful Instagram here ~ https://www.instagram.com/dr_cathleen/ Find Dr. Cathleen's Comprehensive Lab Checklist here and get on her list to learn more about her services! Find more about your type, the pod, freebies, and SO much more at our website right here! www.EnneagramandMarriage.com Love what you're learning on E + M? Make sure you leave us a podcast review so others can find us, too here! Get Christa's Best-Selling Book, The Enneagram in Marriage, here! https://a.co/d/df8SxVx Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

As we learn more about what relationship science says, we learn that not only was your brain designed for continued new learning, but fascinatingly, your marriage was designed to benefit from it, too. Researcher Arthur Aron has spent decades studying what keeps couples not just together but genuinely in love, and what he found might surprise you: novel shared experiences do not just make a marriage more fun, they actually restore the feeling of falling in love all over again, sometimes surpassing even the honeymoon stage. In this episode, Christa brings the research to life, weaving together Aron's self-expansion theory, the neuroscience of dopamine and creativity, and what nervous system regulation has to do with whether you and your spouse can actually play together anymore. This episode is practical, research-backed, and full of the kind of insight that makes you want to go try something new with your person as soon as possible! Watch on YouTube! Want even more? Listen to an even deeper dive on Apple here with the subscriber series! Find more about your type, the pod, freebies, and SO much more at our website right here! www.EnneagramandMarriage.com Love what you're learning on E + M? Make sure you leave us a podcast review so others can find us, too here! Get Christa's Best-Selling Book, The Enneagram in Marriage, here! https://a.co/d/df8SxVx Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kelly Chase, the breakout star of Love Is Blind, Season 1, brings something to this conversation that goes far deeper than what the world got to see when she said "no" at the altar. As a Type 3. we get to talk about the inside of the life of a type 3, as Kelly talks about both sides of the Performer personality, the side that performs to others and abandons self, and the version of herself that was slowly disappearing in the effort to keep everyone else comfortable, and the side that finally knows more and more who she is and what she needs to do for a healthy and balanced, authentic life. This conversation goes into nervous system regulation, rejection wounds, chemistry versus true compatibility, and what it looks like when a heart type finally stops performing her way through life and starts actually feeling it instead, plus ways for YOU to be coached and dialed in with your own business! Watch on YouTube! Here's the website! https://www.chaselifewithkelly.com/ Kelly's Instagram https://www.instagram.com/chaselifewithkelly/?hl=en Find more about your type, the pod, freebies, and SO much more at our website right here! www.EnneagramandMarriage.com Love what you're learning on E + M? Make sure you leave us a podcast review so others can find us, too, here! Get Christa's Best-Selling Book, The Enneagram in Marriage, here! https://a.co/d/df8SxVx Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Milana Vayntrub is an actress, comedian, and activist born in Tashkent, Uzbekistan, who came to prominence as Lily Adams in AT&T commercials — and in 2026 she stepped into something entirely new, playing Olesya Ilyukhina, a Russian engineer and cosmonaut in the blockbuster film Project Hail Mary alongside Ryan Gosling. But this conversation goes somewhere the red carpet does not. Milana is a Type 7 with real threads of 3 and 8 running through her — and one of the most honest things she brings to this conversation is what it actually took to stop hoarding time. The 7 who is always planning the next thing, always keeping an escape route open, always making sure the calendar stays full enough to outrun the feelings — that is the pattern she names out loud. We go deep on what rest means for a type that treats stillness like a threat, what it looks like to actually be present in your own life and your own marriage, her co-founding of Can't Do Nothing, the organization she built to spotlight the refugee crisis, and what Project Hail Mary taught her about the kind of connection that makes survival possible. Warm, funny, and more honest than you might expect. Find Milana on Instagram here! https://www.instagram.com/mintmilana/?hl=en Get your Date Your Spouse kit for 90% off for a limited time here! https://shop.dateyourspouse.com/products/marriage-bundle-2026?sca_ref=6272364.4hv7IY3580 Find more about your type, the pod, freebies, and SO much more at our website right here! www.EnneagramandMarriage.com Love what you're learning on E + M? Make sure you leave us a podcast review so others can find us, too here! Get Christa's Best-Selling Book, The Enneagram in Marriage, here! https://a.co/d/df8SxVx Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

There are times in life when you're exhausted, foggy, perhaps having headaches or gaining weight, and running on empty in your energy, and thus your marriage, and yet it's hard to explain why, since your habits haven't changed much. Dr. Alicia Newsome joins us today to talk about all of this and more as a physician who specializes in root-cause hormone care, and she is here to tell you that what is happening in your body is absolutely affecting what is happening in your relationship. In this conversation we talk about hormonal shifts, what blood panels you should actually be asking for, the role of rest as a clinical non-negotiable, and what it looks like to stop settling for a body that is just surviving. If you have ever felt like something is off but nobody has been able to tell you what, this episode is your starting point. Watch on YouTube!! https://youtu.be/Hyes4xveQxI Find Dr. Alicia Newsome here! https://www.dralicianewsome.com/ Follow Dr. Alicia on Instagram here! https://www.instagram.com/dr.alicianewsome/ Get your Date Your Spouse kit for 90% off for a limited time here! https://shop.dateyourspouse.com/products/marriage-bundle-2026?sca_ref=6272364.4hv7IY3580 Find more about your type, the pod, freebies, and SO much more at our website right here! www.EnneagramandMarriage.com Love what you're learning on E + M? Make sure you leave us a podcast review so others can find us, too here! Get Christa's Best-Selling Book, The Enneagram in Marriage, here! https://a.co/d/df8SxVx Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It is Maycember and everyone is running on empty, and your marriage still needs you. Not the leftover version. The actual you. In this episode, Christa makes the connection nobody talks about: taking care of yourself is not separate from loving your spouse, it is what makes you capable of the most generous thing a marriage asks of you. Bearing witness. Staying in the dark with your person without fixing, reframing, or rushing toward the light. This one is going to name something you have been feeling but haven't had words for yet. Listen on YouTube! Get your Date Your Spouse kit for 90% off for a limited time here! https://shop.dateyourspouse.com/products/marriage-bundle-2026?sca_ref=6272364.4hv7IY3580 Find more about your type, the pod, freebies, and SO much more at our website right here! www.EnneagramandMarriage.com Love what you're learning on E + M? Make sure you leave us a podcast review so others can find us, too here! Get Christa's Best-Selling Book, The Enneagram in Marriage, here! https://a.co/d/df8SxVx Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We are kicking off a new month of Enneagram and Marriage on health and wellness in marriage, and we are starting it in the deeps, in the heart of physical suffering. Today Christa interviews Sydney Anne Bennett, author, military wive, and storyteller with over 300K followers who became disabled two weeks after her honeymoon. Diagnosed with Functional Neurological Disorder, a condition where the brain misfires its signals to the body, she now lives with daily seizures, chronic pain, and mobility loss. What she built inside of that is something I could not stop thinking about. Her new book Fearfully and Wonderfully Broken is part memoir, part survival guide, and entirely honest about what it looks like to fight for faith when your body, your world, and sometimes your church are not cooperating. If you are walking through anything chronic, physical, mental, emotional, relational, this conversation is for you. Watch on YouTube! Show Links: Fearfully and Wonderfully Broken: Fighting for Faith When You're Falling Apart, Get Sydney's brand new book here! https://a.co/0cnmhIBE Follow Sydney on Instagram here! https://www.instagram.com/the.annegirl/ Get your Date Your Spouse kit for 90% off for a limited time here! https://shop.dateyourspouse.com/products/marriage-bundle-2026?sca_ref=6272364.4hv7IY3580 Find more about your type, the pod, freebies, and SO much more at our website right here! www.EnneagramandMarriage.com Love what you're learning on E + M? Make sure you leave us a podcast review so others can find us, too here! Get Christa's Best-Selling Book, The Enneagram in Marriage, here! https://a.co/d/df8SxVx Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Today's guests are #1 high-level ICF-trained (top 2% of coaches) Jamie Slingerland, MCC and Ruthie Perez Slingerland, MCC married coaches, Enneagram mentors, and business partners who, brick by brick, have built a healthy communication pattern across years, even with opposite though both joyful personalities. Listen as we chat with Jamie and Ruthie Slingerland (7-9 pairing), and what happened when and why their previous dynamic finally had to change, and what it took to find a healthy voice for both of them. If you've been living in a similar dynamic, but haven't had words for it yet, or you'd like to learn more about becoming an ICF coach under their academy, this episode is for you! Watch on YouTube! Find Jamie and Ruthie's Coaching Academy for an ICF Credential here: www.CatalystCoachAcademy.com To get coaching with Jamie or Ruthie, visit www.FreedomLifeJourney.com Find more about your type, the pod, freebies, and SO much more at our website right here! www.EnneagramandMarriage.com Love what you're learning on E + M? Make sure you leave us a podcast review so others can find us, too here! Get Christa's Best-Selling Book, The Enneagram in Marriage, here! https://a.co/d/df8SxVx Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Russ Hudson, co-founder of the Enneagram Institute and author of The Wisdom of the Enneagram, joins Christa for a masterclass on conflict. This isn't just "here's what your type does wrong", Russ breaks down the deeper architecture of how we fight: shock points (the places where we get triggered and can't think), harmonic groups (the patterns underneath how we process conflict), and the instincts (how self-preservation, sexual, and social show up when we're wounded). He explains why understanding these frameworks changes everything. This episode is the capstone that ties it our work together all month, theoretically, practically, and full of heart and hope for you both! Watch on YouTube! Get connected with ALL Russ is doing in NYC, Cali, and all over the world! www.RussHudson.com Learn about your type and his work at www.EnneagramInstitute.com Find more about your type, the pod, freebies, and SO much more at our website right here! www.EnneagramandMarriage.com Love what you're learning on E + M? Make sure you leave us a podcast review so others can find us, too here! Get Christa's Best-Selling Book, The Enneagram in Marriage, here! https://a.co/d/df8SxVx Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Christa sits down with Jason VanRuler (type 2), therapist and author who specializes in communication and relationships, for a conversation about why couples can walk away from the same conversation with completely different experiences. Jason breaks down the PATHS Assessment he developed to help couples understand their communication types and why what you say isn't always what your partner hears. They discuss how your family system growing up shapes the way you communicate now, the five communication types and how they show up in conflict, and what to do when you think you're aligned but your spouse is somewhere else entirely. If you've ever had a conversation where you thought everything was fine only to discover later it absolutely was not, this episode will show you exactly what's happening and how to bridge the gap. Watch YouTube! Show links: Jason VanRuler's new book: https://www.jasonvr.com/book/ Jason's website to get on the list! https://www.jasonvr.com/ Find more about your type, the pod, freebies, and SO much more at our website right here! www.EnneagramandMarriage.com Love what you're learning on E + M? Make sure you leave us a podcast review so others can find us, too here! Get Christa's Best-Selling Book, The Enneagram in Marriage, here! https://a.co/d/df8SxVx Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices