Instead of our usual Friday news rundown, we’re bringing you a conversation from this week’s TC Sessions: AI event out in San Francisco. Our friend and co-host Max Zeff sat down with Jared Kaplan, Co-Founder and Chief Science Officer at Anthropic.

If you’ve been following Anthropic, you’ll know it’s been a busy year for the AI startup. Back in March, the company announced it raised $3.5 billion at a $61.5 billion valuation in a round led by Lightspeed Venture Partners. Since then, it’s launched a blog for its Claude models and, according to Bloomberg reporting, partnered with Apple to power a new “vibe-coding” software platform.

Listen to the full conversation to hear more about:

⁠Who has direct access to Claude’s AI models⁠, Windsurf’s response, and how it all ties into Anthropic’s broader goals around openness, safety, and sustainability.
The company’s pivot away from chatbots and toward agentic AI systems that can perform real tasks.
How internal tools like Claude Code are shaping the future of AI-powered development.
What it means to build AI that enterprises can actually trust, and how that affects the way humans interact with software, work, and each other.

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